Period

no it's because we were paying for shit like AIDS relief in Botswana

In fact it's because people loves loans and credit card, they don't really wanna know how it works. They simply need the money.

/^Period.$/i;op:only

No, it's because you give billions to niggers who contribute zero to society

This is about the National Debt, not consumer debt.

WE MUST EAT THE RICH

No one can convince a leftoid they're retarded. The leftoid's smugness protects their fragile ego from all corrections.

fair share

ok even if you seized all the assets of billionaires and top 100 corporations, that wouldn't pay off the $36 trillion debt.
Im confused what the argument is
Also the biggest sources of spending are medicare, medicaid and social security.

Alright then.

The national debt is from the jews lending our own money to us at interest. Leftoids are retards who obfuscate that with stupid shit like in the OP. They actually mask the problem and help the billionaire class they supposedly hate by doing this.

There is no argument because the left fundamentally does not understand the dynamics of the situation they're mad about. They overestimate their own intelligence so they think they know what they're talking about but they don't. So when a logical person tries to understand their bullshit they just get confused, because the left's position is confusion, because it's riddled with lies and misinformation.

and random wars. the top 1% of earners already pay nearly 50% of all incomes taxes. seems like they pay quite a lot.

Social security and Medicare are over half of the national spending, and the corporate tax rate is 21%. We had a deficit when it was 35, too. I don't know what this commie 1pbtid thinks is a "fair share," but over 1/3rd feels to me like too much and still doesn't fix the problem. Some anon feel free to pay he lifetime impact by race chart, I haven't seen it itt yet.

That and Israel.

Amazing how people making these claims somehow have access to IRS files to know exactly how much tax billionaires are paying so they can tell them to pay more.

keep calm

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all theft is wrong even when Rabbi Jesus says it's ok for government to do it.

The top tax bracket accounts for like 90% of total tax revenue though.

PSA: It's billionaire Jews from NYC grifting for and from communism

It's called "full stop". A "period" is what your daughter experiences the day she grows too old for me.

both are called periods. a full stop is what happens to rapist advances when you sing the no no song

youtube.com/watch?v=SvIQaIgKiO4

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[The] debt isn't because working people have Social Security and Medicare.

Yes it is. By definition. You accrue debt when you spend more than you actually have (otherwise you wouldn't be able to spend anything). Anything you spend beyond what you are able to afford, then, results in debt. Saying otherwise is the exact opposite of "a little truth."

Social Security is running a surplus of $77 billion this year and amassing a trust fund large enough to last through the peak retirement years of the Baby Boomers. Social Security can only spend what it receives in tax revenues and has accumulated in its trust fund from past surpluses and interest earnings. It cannot add to the deficit if the trust fund is exhausted because the law prohibits it from borrowing (if current revenues and savings in the trust fund are not sufficient to pay promised benefits, these have to be cut).

Well, yeah but what are you going to do about it.

there are people who want to get rid of SS and medicare

What a staggeringly disingenuous and intellectually dishonest post.

Yeah! Down with these greedy fucks!

Stock market goes down

OMG NO THE BILLIONARES ARE LOSING MONEY OMG THIS CANT BE HAPPENING. DRUMPF IS HURTING BILLIONARES! PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONARES!

Wanting to tax the rich only works if there are rich people. Do you understand?

Don’t forget about the transgender operas in Colombia

we should make billionaires distribute their wealth fairly amongst the labor generating their capital

WE SHOULD LITERALLY ELIMINATE ALL OF THE WEALTH, THIS WILL FIX EVERYTHING

One of these is immensely stupid, and the other is what liberals have actually been saying for roughly forty-odd years.

Tariffs will unironically fix this.

So the Stock market can't come down sometimes? Elon Musk need to be worth 800 billion then 900 billion? His wealth can't drop to 400 billion in a market correction?

Corporations can't refuse to pay anything. They're not people, nor are they sapient.

Here's a little truth, niggers and spics cost the federal government 2 Trillion bucks a year in entitlements.

And 1/2 of the 1% are kikes, the same kikes who give financial support to the advocates for giving niggers and spics more money, and those advocates are also mostly kikes.

Wait you think the stock market is going to 0? Jesus Christ lmao

Correct! We should use charity to create the rich1

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Market came down. What did that fix? Are your groceries cheaper, are there more/better jobs, can you afford a new house/car, have your savings increased...? Keep trying to answer these questions over the next three years, and you'll slowly figure out why the rest of us didn't vote for Trump.

One man took single-payer healthcare off of the table, and he was a turbokike.

It takes time to get those jobs dummy. What he's doing will benefit future generations the most. I'm sorry you can't see the big picture do to all the inbreeding jews have done. Companies are already investing billions to create jobs here and manufacturer here. Just admit youre a kike who comes from money and that's why you're worried about the stock market

And now you're just babbling.

this economic plan won't kick in until several generations later

Holy fuck, your brain is cooked.
Also,

Companies are already investing billions to create jobs here and manufacturer here.

You mean all of the shit from the infrastructure investment act, inflation, reduction act, and CHIPS act? Is this another case of taking credit for the last president's work, like the retard tried to do with Obama? Show me these new investments and plans created specifically in last two months of his presidency. I'll wait.
apnews.com/article/00061b19834849f8b6e1aa73ecdf54e4
cnbc.com/2017/03/30/trump-keeps-taking-credit-for-deals-struck-while-obama-was-president.html
cbsnews.com/news/fact-checking-what-trump-has-taken-credit-for/

inb4 "I don't trust _____ source!"

Pretty easy to see find out when these deals were announced using whatever resource you like.

It's because of corruption, (100s of billions in slush funds ) incompetence ( No work, no show) payouts, and utter treason ( giving 2 million illegals full social security numbers and benefits with medicaid)
Can't wait to see what Doge exposes next.

no, it's because we are paying Musk $80 billion in government conracts every year.

i dont think thats true at all.

This is actually true, and no one can argue against this with evidence to the contrary. And, in fact, the "boom period" of the 40's and 50's republicans like to fantasize about returning to had very high tax rates on corporations. The argument against it is "the government will just squander it!" and, while that's likely true, it's a separate issue to address. Otherwise, it's like saying you shouldn't save money because someone could steal it...which is fucking retarded.

no it’s because no one actually HAS a billion dollars.

Rich people leverage the imaginary value of so-called “assets” and then take loans out against that value. The loans are shit like 50-year low-interest bullshit loans.

The assets are companies, shares in companies, etc. The valuations are based on the stock market and whatever their banking buddies agree to. DEBT is not treated the same as income in the US. You can take out a $1B loan and it can sit there. You don’t pay taxes on it. It isn’t income. Whereas if you were PAID $1B by a company, you’d get heavily taxed. If you sold your stock, you’d be heavily taxed.

Now here’s the real problem: When you take out one of these fucking immortal 50 year loans (no one intends to pay them off) THE MONEY DOESNT EXIST. It’s created in the system. and THAT is where INFLATION comes from.

All these shitheads - Thiel, Musk, Bezos, etc - are running their little space programs and vanity projects and “AI Startups” that are worh almost fucking nothing outside of their office equipment, but they are assigned ridiculous imaginary values that are then leveraged as loans TO PAY OFF THE PREVIOUS LOANS and create more fake money. Over and over and over and over in a fucking spiral.

social security isn’t spending, it is refunding. You pay into social security and then withdraw when you reach a certain age. There is an amount of that type of function in Medicare/caid as well.

Hey bitch. Stop making this about right vs. left. You are diluting the argument. Billionaires do not pay an appropriate tax. There are too many loopholes, and businesses also do not pay an appropriate amount of tax. We’ve stagnated since Ronald Reagan.

Do you know what a tax bracket is? Clearly you do not. Read a book.

This was a move toward nationalized health care. If you think so-called insurance works in the US you are a boomer-level idiot.

Wouldn't the taxes just be put on the consumer right..haven't we established this lib cucks....you made it clear there is nothing worth doing to the billionairs and foreign companies since they will just charge us more....

if you think socialized healthcare works in canada you are a commie retard.

You pay into social security and then withdraw when you reach a certain age.

Pyramid schemes don't work like that. The money is gone.

Lool you must really not trust the IRS or the any federal agency then.

Billionaires in the US pay more taxes than almost any other country even WITH the loopholes. You can take every penny they have and it isn't going to matter one bit if you still keep spending more than they can bring in.

Remember that filipinos are NOT Asian, they're a brown pig/monkey hybrid subrace of genetic trash

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Billionaires existing means actual individual humans can do things, things like going to Mars.
Without them all the power is in the hands of abstract systems, literal demons who have never served humanity in any form. The demon worshipers are simply seething because humans have any power over the world. None of their points have even a hint of merit.

Even when the UK taxed at 90% their welfare was shit and people complained.
There isnt enough money for people to mooch.
Youre just going to have to get a job OP you lazy cunt.

Pyramid schemes

filtered by economics.

There are now 12 administrators for every doctor in US healthcare - and that’s an average. US Healthcare is a fucking joke. But you know this since you’re a shill.

Hi Elon. This is false.

spending more

Yes, keep electing Republicans who spend endless money and cut taxes for the corporations and the rich, then once they’re out of office they blame the other party. This is a fact, don’t make me go get a graph of debt based of party affiliation.

Billionaires existing

Elon, again, this is false. Billionaires existing is an artifact of a system involving work. Somehow value is pooling at the top level ass-sitters instead of going to the people providing value.

No billionaires were involved with going to the Moon, and we would have gone to Mars by now if Ronald Reagan hadn’t cut corporate and billionaire taxes from 70-90% down to 20%.

He removed the incentive to grow your company and build and innovate. It became ok to just hand the funds to investors through dividends. Before Reagan unspent money was taxed heavily BEFORE dividends were paid out. That was what drove real growth. Now all we have is paper growth.

muh demons

Go see a doctor, your Lithium levels are off.

you think a government run system is more efficient? problem is you guys have too much government already.

Yes, keep electing Republicans who spend endless money and cut taxes for the corporations and the rich, then once they’re out of office they blame the other party.

Who the fuck said I like the mainstream right at fucking ALL? I think they're exactly the same and will only give lip service and platitudes while never actually doing jack shit to reduce spending, the neoliberal ethic is exactly the same even if they can be more mask off about sucking off their donors. Either way, my point still stands, it's a problem of asking the state to take over all functions of life, and the spending is at a point where it doesn't matter how much of "le fair share" the rich pay, you will never even that deficit out.

You can't reduce taxes without reducing the scale and impact of the government, both need to be done, and nobody on either wing will do it. The only solution is a third party (lmao not happening) or actual violent action against the state and restructuring by force.
You've missed my whole point entirely, I'm not here to lick the boots of corpos, I'm saying that it doesn't matter how much money you take from corpos OR the people when the mass spending will not be able to sustain itself without eventual oppression of the people.

Both, niggers and other subhumans are taking everything they can without contributing And joos are abusing the US financial system at maximum level

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government run system

vs

too much government

Two mutually exclusive issues. How is it that the 30 top economies in the world have nationalized healthcare and the US does not? The answer isn’t about efficacy. It isn’t about talent or stability. It's about profit.

Who the fuck said

Not me. I was addressing the conversation not you personally. I concur on the sameness to be sure.

You can't reduce taxes without

Agreed. However there is another option. Clinton oversaw a 300,000+ worker buyout and reduced the size of the Federal government. It isn’t as discussed at the time because he didn’t do it like a spastic colon.

Anyway. A moment of silence for the Crypto bros.

iran-contra

outsourcing

military-industrial complex

trickle down

mass incarcerations

immigration amnesty

Reagan was literally the worst president we've had in modern times. I don't even care if you don't like Trump or Obama. Reagan did the most harm, still.

You can't even pretend you're capable of thinking. Taxes do not drive growth, tokens like money are not magic and the systems you worship do not help anyone.

So you are willing to admit green energy subsidies are a scam?

no 30 trillion went to the Middle East

How would the relatively tiny amount of billionaires, of which musk only reached 100+ billion in the past few years, put even a tiny dent in 36 trillion?

pay their fair share

Remember, leafs were supportive of capital gains tax increases despite doctors already paying over 50% of their salary each year, among other expenses that require them to scale back services.

bro
Entitlements are the expenses
Untaxed wealth is the untaxed income
Not hard

Yeah, give more money to the government!!

Well I hate to break it to you, but America doesn't have a revenue problem. We definitely bring in more than enough money to fund the federal government every year. We have a spending problem where congress has decided to play make believe self righteous warrior. Instead they launder that money back to themselves via a relative or friend who is on the board to the NGO!!! If congress didn't spend every last penny and then some they were given we wouldn't be 36tr in debt!!

Billionaires

How much money would we get if we taxes them more? Would it solve our problems?

Corporations

K, go ahead, tax them a bunch, see what happens (they move offshore fyi)

Fair share

Who decides what that is? You?
The government simply prints the money it needs. Going to businesses and billionaires to get it via taxes just causes problems.

He will never respond to this post.

Why is the solution always giving the government a somehow even blanker check?

Truth is the government can never tax enough poeple to pay for everything. Something liberals refuse to understand. And don't get me started on Republicans. They love to cut taxes hoping the growth pays for the welfare state. It never does.

No it's 100 percent because of Medicaid Medicare and social security. It's 3/4ths of the total federal budget