US can't win trade war with China

China's central bank just depreciated their currency again officially making it an all time low

The reality is that US can impose as much tariff and China can just depreciate their currency to keep undercutting prices. Japan used to do this until USA forced it to sign the Plaza Accord which made the yen valuation higher and making their exports weak thus ushering in the "lost decade".

you lost lol

guess we will see what happens then, wont we?

At some point all their drones are going to demand wages instead of fish head soup.

The chink rage has been entertaining.

china wont save palestine lil bro

Why can't the US win a trade war with China when China isn't self-sufficient for food supply? They'll starve before we need plastic garbage on Amazon

LOL. This is the equivalent of a cheap chinks hooker going on a sex strike because her best paying John said he's sick of overpaying for the same kind of bj he can get from the Mexican hooker who does house calls.

No because China produces everything. That is what is fundamentally different about devaluation of currency when China does it vs America. It's literally a weapon only China can use

It drives up demand from other regions like EU because everything becomes cheaper and the increase in market share compensates for the loss of profit margin. That's why so many countries complain about China "dumping". This is what they are talking about

Meanwhile your domestic consumption actually increases because imports become more expensive. So people in your country choose made in China products over made in EU or USA. Which then increases trade deficit.

It's literally unwinnable which is why USA is so desperate to control China's banking system

Good. I want to see the Chinks devalue out their emerging middle class just to try and avoid tariffs.

HAHAHAH WE WIN AMERICA, OUR ITEMS ARE LITTERALLY NEGATIVE, WE WILL PAY YOU IF YOU BUY OUR STUFF

You already did in Trump's first term.
Are you retarded?

You seem to forget they're a commie nation with price controls.
The most their citizens will feel are søybean shortages

China produces everything

They only produce things because they let western nations exploit their utter lack of human rights to leverage their army of slave labor. There are plenty of other poor countries with no respect for their populace that can easily replace China for western corporations, and they'll do it at the drop of a hat if it means saving a few points on their stock price. Conversely, China, being an export economy, does not have other rich nations to replace American demand and thus ultimately has very little leverage in the argument, despite the seething and gnashing of their little yellow teeth.

They only produce things because they let western nations exploit their utter lack of human rights to leverage their army of slave labor. There are plenty of other poor countries with no respect for their populace that can easily replace China for western corporations

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of Chinese economy. And your reply actually makes the argument for me. Like you implied, China is far from the poorest country in the world. Wages in African countries or India is cheaper - yet firms choose to go to China. Why?

This isn't because China is a country full of cheap labor. It's because China had decade of perfecting vertical integration and efficient manufacturing that gives them a huge advantage. The idea that China is only good because of slave labour is completely outdated and just not true anymore

Mind you that China is already transitioning away from making cheap plastic shit. They are either shipping those factories to Vietnam or replacing them with robots. There is a reason why they have more robots installed than the next 20 countries combined

China isn't self-sufficient for food supply

This meme has been pushed for way too long and it hasn't been true for decades.

rage

Laugh*

Whole world is buying their shit though not just America, if America was smart it would be forming a cartel with the West instead of saying fuck everyone on earth that isn't Israel or Russia

I want to see the Chinks devalue out their middle class

Drumf already did this with you, mongoloid.

why can't the US win a trade war with China when China isn't self-sufficient for food supply

Because China can get its food from the rest of the world, retard.

dude you can't inject that black mamba poison, you'll die

meh, nothing ever happens *injects* I guess we will see what happens then, wont we?

Wages in African countries or India is cheaper - yet firms choose to go to China. Why?

Because niggers are retarded and the chinks were the most eager to suck western cock as a means of trying to bootstrap themselves out of being an agrarian backwater. But you continue to ignore the most basic and fundamental fact that China is an export economy with a poor populace compared to even other Asian nations like Japan or Worst Korea, and certainly compared to western nations. Who exactly is going to buy their exports if countries like Mexico agree to better manufacturing agreements? You act like China is building up all these factories and robots like it's their investors making it happen. It's financed by western investments. Once that capital moves on to more profitable pastures, they'll be right back to the rice paddy's. America, on the other hand, still gets their slave labor and maintains their relative wealth. You lost.

Yes, you got that exactly right. And that is exactly what Biden tried to do. Which is why every western countries banded together to impose tariff on BYD and other tariff measures for China's "dumping". When you look at what happened to BYD in many western countries, this was very obviously coordinated

China then began using Vietnam and other countries as a backdoor to avoid tariff.

So ultimately, Trump's plan is an unwinnable plan. Biden's plan was actually objectively better whether people like it or not. But even that had its flaws (like i said about vietnam). The reality is that America is in a difficult position and it's economic might is just not strong enough to push China around

It's much better for America to try to invest for more long term plan (100 years from now) instead of trying to dig their heels in an unwinnable battle because they want the cake and eat it too. This means investing in locals population, education, and cultivating the next generation of leaders instead of short term solution like mass migration of jeets

Remember this post when they walk that mamba juice off.

Time to torture more cats to cure your frustration

continue crying wumao. i am thirsty.

If America stopped buying their shit, their entire economy would crumble. There is no backup nation to pick up the slack, it'd just just a blanket loss of massive capital investment.

when i walk away, will you finally kill yourself so we all can stop hearing you wimper?

china has nothing to lose, this is a perfect opportunity for Xi to eliminate cash, and go full digital currency. The CCP could rake in trillions if they just declare the yuan worthless paper.

over paying

china devalues currency

Are you retarded?

You're brown lol.
Show the hand, shitskin kek

i think you fail to comprehend just how significant the US market is. there is no combination of population size and (relative) wealth on earth. that isnt me bragging, it is ridiculous.

That's funny, you don't understand how this works lol.
Wait until you see prices in your stores next month, hearty keks will ensue, jewboy

So China devalues their currency, and in turn this gives the US room to devalue our currency some more, and this game plays out until the debt is paid down with devalued currency. Meanwhile, gold keeps going higher, stocks rebound, the Ruble also goes higher against the Yuan, and this creates a very good market for China to sell into once it reaches parity with the Yuan. Does this sound about right?

Who the fuck wants their depreciated currency retard?
It's not a meme. They import a very large percentage of their food and more importantly they import practically all their energy resources. If they don't manage to control that, they are vulnerable to fluctuations in the shipping routes, such as a blockade thousands of miles out of their territory.

Feel free to make an actual argument at any time

he can't comprehend metaphor

ESL moment

China doesn't have physical money

Just did, jew.
Now show us your ugly snout, I could use a laugh, pig.

And livestock shortages. That's right. We feed China beef and pork.
Good thing they don't mind eating the bugs.

CHING CHONG PING PONG NIGGER BITCH

It's pretty easy to, actually.
(1) create economic turmoil to put irresponsible first-world countries on the brink of economic ruin
(2) provoke China into mass dumping into already-stressed export economies
(3) precondition removal of tariffs with joint economic isolation of China

Then they can devote 100% of their production capacity to tofu dreg construction covered in LED's and domestic surveillance. The bug queen (Xi) is incapable of sacrificing power, so he'll almost certainly overplay his hand in "countering" the US.

You're forgetting a very important point here, no one needs to buy anything from China, all of China's growth comes from selling everything it can overseas, cheaply to undercut overseas manufacturers, tariffs kill that dead, its as simple as that, they can devalue their currency all they like but the US is onto that as well and it will be penalized with tariffs. China fucked up, they should have been looking after their domestic economy with the trillions they brought in instead of ripping their people off with real estate fraud and ponzi schemes while paying them a pittance in commie script.
Now the population is ageing fast, their last few generations continued to breed little emperors one at a time and they're headed for demographic and economic collapse. The Panda just can't face it.

why do you want to create economic ruin for the US?

I respect China for just doing whatever the hell it wants and playing tic-tac-toe while everyone else cries and demands they play checkers. China for the Chinese is probably better than the US is for the average unaffluenced white American. But I'm not Chinese so what do you want from me?

kek slave race thread

Because the difference between a few years of economic turmoil and economic insolvency is another decade of the status quo. What is Europe going to do when they're dependent on China for both low and high tech products and China leverages that to completely kill your domestic industry and force you into a debt trap? They aren't like the US, they will make you an outright slave if they can.

Lmao retard, China can buy food with it's USD reserves like they have been for decades. That's about to stop though. You are watching America lose it's hegemony in realtime.

China only produces about 60% of the food it consumes and this number is decreasing all the time. By 2030 it's set to be closer to 50%.

So yeah, China isn't able to feed it's self, that is why they are the US number one customer when it comes to buying food.
And you know what having a weaker currency means for China? The cost of food they import are now more expensive. Not just from the US, but from anywhere in the world.

you are russian

Putin's a cocksucking faggot, and the Russian military is so incompetent that I'm embarrassed we ever considered them to be a serious global threat. On the other hand, you niggers are still buying their gas.

oh no! the paper dependent slave is serving you and dumping free stuff for you, how terrible!
no more dorra for the yellow dog eaters aww turns out serving the american people is a privilege that can be taken away.

US does 1,000% tariffs

Chinks life savings dwindled to nothing

$100k savings turned into $10k because of an orange guy across the ocean

BASED, so so incredibly based. CHAI-NUH can be defeated by doing nothing.

meme flag post with no value, no suprise

kek they will import absolutely nothing unless they sucked somebody off who had a dorra in his pocket. they willfully make themselves even bigger dorra slaves.

no one needs to buy anything from China

So much cope
A chinese container ship just passed by my window. John over there is waiting at the Panama channel to take its money in USD. Then John is supossed to pay Uncle Sam taxes and/minus tariff in USD. Now more people use USD.

Listen to this disingenuous faggot

le chink birth rate is dropping and they're dying off

their food production rate is 60% and will fall to 50%

what do you mean they automated their farms and use hydroponics?

China is the largest importer of food in the world. Not just luxury food either, food of all types, including staples like grain and rice.
China also has the worlds largest fishing fleet and send it around the world to scour the oceans of any fish they can, including straight out of other countries waters.

A country that is food secure wouldn't act like this.

5000% tariffs
If they devalue their currency enough we show niggers the ishowspeed trip and unleash 10 million vacation niggers onto Shanghai, Shenzen and other coastal cities

Mutts cant live without chinese entertainment so it doesnt matter in the end

Their birth rate is atrocious though and since Tibet and Xinjiang are part of China it means their TFR is even lower than reported without considering CPP number games

Chinks will buy more of their own shit

I'm willing to bet a majority of what they buy is already chineese shit so this will change 95% to 99%, big whoop. On top of that chinks don't buy shit, they invest and save everything to the point that it's an issue that the chink economist are saying will drag down the country if they don't change from an investment to consumption model.

Lowering currency will make things even cheaper

If this is such a magic bullet why didn't they do it before now? One reason is because other countries are already pissed, like another anon said, about chinks dumping their shit. The chinks strat right now is to export as much as they can because literally every other part of their economy is on fire. It's getting to the point that the chink are ruining lively hoods of almost every country it trades with because it's under cutting everyone and taking jobs. These countries are already talking about tariffing the chinks even before Trump came in. All this is going to do is give extra motivation for countries to be more protectionist and lessen their trade with the chinks.

chinese entertainment

Digital goods aren't subject to tariffs and nobody really cares about the shit china puts out

You do understand your everyday economy currently cannot survive without cheap"made in china" shit as much as you seethe about the reality of it. But they can survive without yours because they produce EVERYTHING. US product isn't on the market as an essential, but just a fancy alternative to all other western products.

I've never seen such a high concentration of foreign flags seething in unison, and all for something that they insist is our problem and our problem alone.

American workers should enslave themselves to the standards of the rest of the world after literally inventing everything and bringing the world out of the stone age, simply to oppose Chinese manufacturing.

kill yourself for being so weak and pathetic

Jew financial metrics

Doesn't matter. China has the industry therefore China has the cards.

Look at how useless sanctions were against Russia because they actually produce things unlike the usa which just profits off jew speculation

uh-uh we still winning ok?

no our inflation is our strength yours is your weakness understand?

China is already transitioning away from making cheap plastic shit.

That transition happened 10 years ago

China is also one of the largest food exporters in the world

And Japan still lick their feet after got nukes

rip starbuck

China's central bank just depreciated their currency again officially making it an all time low

Which one.

chinese communist party is extremely paranoid
they even fear their own citizens
china looks fine, but it's rotten inside

Based.
I'm rooting for China.
I want to see videos of the Americans shooting each other, and not just the gangland violence you usually see.

glory to the Middle Kingdom
total mutt death

We can raise the tariffs as much as we want. We cannot lose a trade war because we do not need trade.

they even fear their own citizens

its always amusing to hear Amerimutts telling us how we feel, or how we should feel

Lol. We don't care about your feelings. Go to the factory and make me another cheap flower pot you stupid chink.

Couldn't Trump technically buy a ton of forex options against the yuan and profit tons of money when they devalue? Could the treasury do this?

Your metaphor was retarded and reflected your lack of understanding

China's central bank just depreciated their currency again officially making it an all time low

You forgot to say how they did it.

By giving 5000 dollars stimulus checks to each Chinese!

thats fucked up. animals are innocent, they deserve our love and care

They are making themselves poorer and you're complaining

A weak yuan is a sign of failure in the Chinese economy. They Aren’t intentionally devaluing it because they would be playing into Trump’s accusations, and they’re worried about capital flight from their system. OP is a dumb nip

They are subsidizing your products and you're complaining lol

He doesn’t know the next round of tariffs if China doesn’t comply completely decouple the U.S. and China because the tariffs will be so high.

A man who never eats pork buns is never a whole man!

OP should do some homework kek

youtu.be/g0mNQgH-tEs

Only because food is sent there to be proccesed and packaged in china then sent elswhere

salamalekum

They were literally taking from their consumer to give to you and you're complaining that it was a bad deal.

There is a reason why they have more robots installed than the next 20 countries combined

Keep in mind they will call "robot" even a rod with a servo motor and a PLC. The slave labor and price dumping is still the back bone.

all time low

I strongly doubt that. Why do people now use "all time" to mean "in recent history"? It must have been worse under Mao.

You don’t understand what’s happening. The U.S. is in a soft collapse. This isn’t a trade war. It’s global trade restructuring. Read up chink.

hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf

OP, you’re fucking retarded. The world runs on USD. The USD, China and the rest of the world has and uses, wether it’s treasuries or cash for selling goods, can only be earned from places that have dollars to give in Trade (countries) or bought via the USA. Even other countries dollar reserves aren’t massive. Then their the petro dollar with makes its worse.

Then add SOFR, in which the USA can control dollar based interest rates domestically and abroad as of 2021 or 2022.

Anything that’s leverage or dollar denominated debt, will blow up in the other countries faces (not USA). Fed interest rates come into play here.

Since Americans consume so much cheap shit from China , dollars flow.

Throw tariffs and it makes it even more fucked for producers.

High tariffs in place and no Americans buying anything from China for two weeks to a month, will blow up China’s economy. But the goal isn’t just to get a sweet trade deal. It’s to get the CCP to grow some balls to remove Xi.

East Asian countries run on “saving face” and “looking tough” basically not backing down.

Trump is probably banking on Xi doubling down so trump can Triple down.
Cause so much pain economically to China, they kick Xi out and bring in a guy who will negotiate with trump.

They need access to our markets more than we need their cheap garbage.

Oh no the money I print for free is too valuable.

If only we could turn it more into monopoly paper and just bring back Nike sweatshops and Apple's little screws

You have a really good thing going on and you're running it because of some dumb, nationalistic ego thing

You do realize that china lives on exports alone? It doesnt have an internal market that can consume what it produces. If it was forced to self isolate it would collapse.

You both need each other otherwise there would be no trade between you. They may get the money but you get the goods. I fail to see what's wrong here

Chinas industry very much depends on being able to sell to US markets at markup. They can’t do the same in other countries. Stop being retarded.

No we didn’t. The U.S. was scheduled to collapse via bankruptcy in 2025 if we continued down our “good thing going” path, see Deagel’s report. Trump is salvaging the U.S. instead of block busting it like Biden and Kamala would have.

This and the US can't buy any Chinese assets at low price either since China is strictly protectionist. You lose mutts.

The world ran on the USD. The first big mistake was to exclude Russia from SWIFT. The second big mistake was the Trump tariff against the world. The era of traditional reserve currency systems is coming to an end. If Trump really defaults on US debt, that end comes very soon.

Trump is probably banking on Xi doubling down so trump can Triple down.

It is looking that way

Before WW2 you had Zaibatsu and they had wealth independent of the government and they had sway over government and they were nationalistic. So, it might have looked like the government were directing investment, actually the zaibatsu were directing the government. That was blown up by WW2, not by the plaza accord. By the time of the plaza accord, the zaibatsu had been pacified into corportised/financialised keiretsu, so the plaza accord just capitalised on that.

The problem Japan has is you've been printing yen to buy US debt for 40 years. You need your interest rates to increase, pension funds to take a hit and you need the yen to depreciate, but if you did anything like that then it would cause the carry trade to unwind and cause a hit on US treasuries and assets. You are carrying much more debt than prior to the plaza accords and your growth is permanently gimped. You can't get out of this low growth scenario with breaking out of the US orbit. It's not like the plaza accords were a one-off that set this up, it's been an ongoing thing for decades.

Trump played China. Xi is an idiot and playing into Trump’s trap 100%.

Anyone with a power trapped ego is easy to manipulate based on their public front. Xi is an idiot! Lmao

we directly control china's inflation

this is good for china

lmao

The era of traditional reserve currency systems is coming to an end

That’s the plan, see

What happens to Chinese exports of non essential goods to non-US countries when the rest of the world is in a deep recession though.

Never go full retard

That’s the truth. Deagel’s is a US intelligence agency sourced in wiki leaks as credible from the Obama era. Ignore it at your own peril. The major reason for population declines were shifts due to economic factors and suicide. You do the math.

Last time Trump got into a trade war, China made US farmer kill themselves lmao. The US has to pass bailouts to stop them from ACKing

They can grow domestic American Madagascar vanilla for $500 a year.

Who is this US farmer guy?

You can tie the tariff rate to the currency changes compared to the set date, say the currency loses -1% percent value the tariffs go up +1% percent.

Seethe you weeb faggot

Zogmutts are literally paid by the drumpf.gov to do it. Americans always acknowledge shit is fucked because they can see goods and services nonstop rising. Americans are so finished they cant even dream of buying homes or starting families.

Which set date? Date of purchase, date of shipping, date of border crossing, date of customs processing? That's a nice little bureaucratic hell you're building there. Creates tens of thousands of extra jobs that no one can fill. I heard there were 8 million open manufacturing jobs before Trump declared his tariffs. Offer more office positions and even more people migrate out of the factories.

and the increase in market share compensates for the loss of profit margin

How can they increase their market share if the already produce everything?

That's a man.

everything in china is bullshit. we knew this years ago. Scams, grifts and swindles abound.. My prof in fancy-pants MBA school laid this book on me.. Any baby-VC or investment bankers out there.. read and covet this book..it's like a roadmap..

You have a really good thing going on

that's not what Anon Babble told me

China cannt win a trade war with US

Chyna has factories burning and things blowing up left and right

Lol

Ruin nation

implying you're a kike

Biden’s approach to China which was to bide time while importing from them to build industry was a better approach. Trump is a short sighted retard who needs to be known as the man who saved American manufacturing within 4 years, he can’t wait it out because someone else will get credit, his clout comes before anything else

Anon Babble claims he only pretends to be retarded for the lavish mental disability benefits from the government. Make of that what you want.

biden't is a known traitor who feigns mental illness to dodge the firing squad
no use crying over spilled milk anyway, Chang

The fact is that Biden took Trump’s term 1 policies and continued them in every way including manufacturing but doing mass tariffs before building factories reeks of Trump being desperate to get stuff done before he leaves office, this will backfire in a big way

you lie constantly, even to yourselves, and it will be your downfall

he will just increase tariffs retards, you can win.
Even if you make your labour you can't win.

Ching Chong produces cheap shit, and I like cheap shit, as long I can get cheap shit I'm happy.
Please Chinese overlords, dump cheap GPUs and CPUs in the market and crash Nvidia and AMD prices into oblivion.

China needs to import food is a meme. Their elite and middle class imports shitloads of expensive wine and spirits which racks up a giant 'food' trade deficit. That's not the same thing as not being able to survive.

Building housing and giving food vouchers along with suicide nets has run its course.
We are not trying to compete with China anymore.
We will make it eat itself.
Now fuck off troon. You lost.

we

Like the Trump clown show, you don't understand what is going on. Why can't you admit even that simple fact to yourself?

Here’s what’s going on and .

By value. Just because China imports a lot of animal feed and luxury foods doesn't mean China will starve without food imports.

I'm pretty sure China is writing off the US market. The reason the yuan will be devalued is because the PCB is going to loosen monetary policy as part of an economic stimulus to compensate for the loss of exports to the US, which are about 2.8% of China's GDP

I'm not going to read all that. How about a short summary? The second link looks like meth schizo grade conspiratard material.

just slap the Made in Vietnam sticker. Or run it through a third country. But we all know this is a scheme to run money for a bigger government.

China is almost self sufficient in rice and wheat, which are the main staple grains
apps.fas.usda.gov/psdonline/app/index.html#/app/advQuery

The U.S. is in a soft power collapse and the global trade networks are reconfiguring where the U.S. isn’t securing trade or allied partnership. The Deagel’s forecast shows they’ve known well in advance.

Yes, we can. Ban all products out of China, nigger level Walmart, dollar stores, and faggot Indian shops go out of business, grandmother's worldwide stop buying worthless knick knacks, and we all enjoy nothing.

however much they devalue their currencie is whats being taken away from wages.

The world runs on goods and services, of which China is now a critical supplier. The world "runs" on a particular financial service and currency to the extent it provides the past of least resistance for facilitating the exchange of goods and services. Ultimately, the world "runs" on USD because the US and its vassals have long been indispensable suppliers of important goods and services and because everyone understood the US would break the legs of anyone who tried to promote alternatives, not because there is some law of nature which says you have to use US currency and financial services

U.S. is in a soft power collapse

But why
oh here it is

Ban all products out of China, nigger level Walmart, dollar stores, and faggot Indian shops go out of business

you are not cool anymore,US

But why

Because the U.S. established the global power and trade structure after WW2. Everyone was hoarding dollars after the wars in an attempt to unseat the U.S., namely France. At the time dollars were redeemable for precious metals. This caused Nixon to remove the dollar from the gold standard in 1971 so it’s not redeemable for precious metals. This set the stage for infinite current printing and lead to other countries devaluing their currencies and manufacturing being sent to Asia. The U.S. has been in trouble the last ten years after the global meltdown of 2008 and was scheduled to default in 2025, however it appears Trump is attempting to salvage the country from insolvency so it doesn’t balkanize like the USSR. Read this: hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf

At the time dollars were redeemable for precious metals. This caused Nixon to remove the dollar from the gold standard

if the dollars were so cool, why not release counterfeit dollars?

Read this

A Users Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System

Maybe the USA could try living within its means and pay off its debt?

That’s what’s happening anon. Glad you’re catching on.

Xi is love
Xi is life

Xi is a sucker that’s being successfully baited by Trump because of Xi’s ego.

chinx obliterate their own currency and buying power to own the libs

winning.

good thing we can just raise tariffs more
ching chong bing bong

Get fucked chinks

good thing we are tariffing everyone and can raise tariffs on countries dumping goods

ching chong bing bong

What we're seeing right now is not a gradual decay of American soft power. What we see is the Donald Trump regime imposing crippling trade sanctions on the US.
It's possible that he really has no clue what he is doing. It's also possible that he's preparing the US for Imperial conquest against the free world. His unjustified claims on Canada and Greenland don't leave much doubt about that. Trump embargoes the US before anyone else can do it, because he knows that his ancient post-WW2 warships are not going to survive the opening phase of a real war anyway.

None of the shit in that document is what Trump is doing. That document calls for specific tariffs and using closest allies against the biggest trade deficits, i.e. China. Europe also isn't at a trade deficit by any definition, we export a shitload of digital services to them.
You lost, faggot.

MIGA sister immediately feels threatened when he sees people (rightfully) celebrate glorious Xi.

Shouldn't you rather worry if Israel is safe and if enough of your taxpayer money went to them?

Tariffs work
The jobs are coming back chang

Not really, no.

How are jobs coming back when cost of inputs have risen by double digit percentages?

And retards think the Yuan will become the reserve currency LOL
Protip: reserve currency has the OPPOSITE effect you describe

They cant and wont because they are alone.
Sucks to piss off every one at once.

He’s literally working within the framework of that document. You’re an idiot. You lost, lmao

This. We would just blockade the bug people and starve them out. Also doesn’t China import most of its oil as well? It’s why they are trying to do that belt and road shit. Doesn’t matter their will be no age of the bug and all the shills on here will be btfo again.

Shouldn’t you be moderating Winnie the poo images?

Digitalservices exports...

You mean like IT service?

Hello am Will how can I help you?

Would you rather have the U.S. hard collapse like the USSR? What planet do you live on?

What do people in Japan think of Mao considering his name is literally "demonlord"?
Although I guess that term may have only become greatly popularized well after his death.

the legacy of Mao

average Chinese girls eating dumplings

This is supposed to be bad how?

It's pretty obvious that China can take more punishment than the US. And actually took the trade war seriously, while the US pissed about for a decade.

That’s the American establishment intentionally trying to blockbust the U.S. -wake up!

Xi bros, I think we got too PEENG PONG CHEENG CHONG

Or are they keeping the debt expansion going and using tariffs to try and limit the increasing fragility that debt expansion is bringing to the system?

and I used to think that our education was bad but theirs serves to shed a light on the grim reality of western countries. everyone is gonna hurt from what the orangelard is doing but he has only this year to make changes.

You can't write Winnie the Poo without WIN anon, once again a sign of glorious Xi having received the heavenly mandate.
While mutts have to growl and worship Israel, the Chinese only bow down to other Chinese, and try to better the lives of their own kind. They aren't servants to a parasitic force that sucks them dry.

Trump is doing everything in his power to cause that collapse like the worst hybrid of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Trump is engineering the hard collapse by doing this while running unprecedented deficits.

Maybe a decade of austerity, chilling, and slow decoupling supply chains - maybe with some kind of Trans-Pacific Partnership with countries that aren't Chyna, what s thought - could produce a soft landing once the petro-yuan sends a flood of useless dollars back to the US. That's not what Orange Yeltsin is doing.

actually took the trade war seriously

No? They never wanted a trade war.
At least I have never heard of China provoking such a thing.
In fact one could say the Chinese' past experience with trade wars was highly negative, 150-something years ago.
It's just that they also are rational and value autarky; profit, while very important internationally, isn't their central focus.

profit at all costs

They may have had such a phase, but it's over; so it's pretty much incidental that they are better able to deal with a trade war, and largely defensive. Their overall strategy has always been different. Outsourcing will never be a thing in China, under ordinary circumstances.
Hell, from a nationalist perspective, does outsourcing ever make sense? China isn't an internationalist regime like globohomo.

Tariffs work

The jobs are coming back

You're one of the parking lot schizos who screech "Chang!" at random strangers. Why would anyone take you and your government-approved opinions seriously? It's rather obvious that you're barely capable of binding your own shoes.

Guess you're an urbanite then... Trump had to bail out the farmers.

Digital goods aren't subject to tariffs

Did King Migger say that or is this just wishful thinking?

The SCOTUS will not allow default on the debt, due to "Full faith and credit" - it doesn't matter how many RINO allies has on the court and in Congress.
That's why Trump is bluffing. He wants to restructure the debt instead, as per the sign tapping.

Chinese were baited into modernizing by western elites giving them manufacturing technology. You have no idea what you’re taking about.

His intentionally removing the US from the point position on global trade and policing before it goes bankrupt defaulting, resulting in a hard collapse.

his name is literally "demonlord"?

It's not. Even the western transliteration writes it differently.

The companies move production to USA to avoid the tariffs

That is how they come back

eat shit chink

tariffs work
China loses

Chinese were baited into modernizing by western elites giving them manufacturing technology

this is what the average mutt thinks is happening

something is endearing about the simple worldview that mutts have. Instead of being able to accept that they got bested in a system they themselves set up, they are comforting themselves with idiotic thoughts like "we tricked you into becoming a global superpower, trust the plan!" it is so silly and childish yet it shows how limited and simple a mutt is, even though it also show how insecure the new formation of the world order makes them

ching chong bing bong

Tariffs work and you're a fag

If tariffs didn't work you wouldn't be shilling here

That’s the only rational reason I could come up with. It makes no sense for a government and the corporations that control the government which create the currency to give everything away based on making more of the currency they create. It’s a closed loop system. Pretty incredible that you can’t see that. The Trojan horse has been deployed.

China is almost self sufficient in grainslop

He said food, not slave feed.

This is going to be test on how much financial punishment the average chink can take before a revolution happens.

Chinese were baited

no they weren't. communism is scientific on its face. if anything, they would love your praise

Chinese were baited into modernizing by western elites giving them manufacturing technology. You have no idea what you’re taking about.

wut?
You do realize that Communists initial focus has always been establishing heavy industry? That means building factories, refineries, mines, and so on; and incidentally these are places where workers work, and communism is run for workers. Clearly not a coincidence.
Essentially an Industrial Revolution sort of thing, because that is a necessary first step towards Communism, then still at least 2 or 3 generations away.
So while they do buy machines, if they can afford them, from anybody who will sell them, their goal is to produce their own machines first and foremost,
so if there was bait involved it must have been quite early, as in baiting Lenin, or even Marx himself, who wrote his books during the later phases of the Industrial Revolution in Britain. Communism has always involved modernization, and in fact peasants are a bit of a class enemy, as it turns out; partially because communists can't into agriculture.

ok chang

Read this and really try to understand what I’m communicating. The US creates currency. US corporations are part of the government. Why would these corporations that have corporate capture over the government, promote system to make more money that they are responsible for generating? There’s something else at play here, obviously.

What the fuck are you talking about, weeb, even the writing is similar, and both means "Mao".
毛
魔王

It’s pretty obvious that communism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin and being used as an endless struggle
dichotomy to distract people and globalize the planet. Currencies are made to enslave people. Global currencies and central banks are used to control and enslaved people.

don't they have to pay the tariff in dollars?

China became the manufacturing hub of the world in the 90s-2000s, if you watch the coverage around that time it shows clearly that the west was convinced China would only be able to copy products but wasn't able to "innovate" when they realized what was happening it was already too late, basically what Trump is doing right now should have happened 30 years ago if you wanted to stop Chinas rise

hurr I'm illiterate

You clowns make Reddit look intellectual in comparison.

china has control over 90% of the earths rare metals that the us needs to manufacture a shit ton of stuff, so the price of those is going to shoot up and those costs will be felt by the average consumers

That sounds like a children’s story to me.

OK Chang.
Here's your dinner btw
Can you afford it though? With Yuan in the toilet and all...

They don’t want stop China’s rise. They want China to modernize that was the entire point!

Luckily rare earth minerals are everywhere.
So that is just a fantastic new opportunity for US based rare earth mines to open up.

Sounds like lots of new job and business opportunities domestically in the United States to me.

The question is, why is Trump doing this?
No Chinese person ever called me a “goyim cattle that exists solely to serve them” like Jewish rabbis do
I LIKE Chinese people.

I'm not even sure whether you are talking about China there or the USA, because it sounds more like the USA, and then I'm a bit confused, because it would still simply be a case of the USA rusing itself, or being rused by Trump, first outsourcing massively for profit, then screwing over international trade.

NOOOO! China is taking too many hecking dollarinos that I print infinite amounts of!

Should explain the misunderstanding if you are referring to China.
That said I am more than optimistic that the tariffs that Trump actually ends up implementing for any length of time, instead of merely threatening them or withdrawing them after a month, will be fairly reasonable. This entire affair is merely a demonstration of stock market volatility, and why would any non-jew even care about that?

Trump is double-crossing the jews by sabotaging the market

Except he tells them beforehand and they're the one selling before the peak, during the peak, and right as it tips, amplifying the dip into a major drop, and then buying the dip.

No, that’s not the real question faggot. Everyone knows why. It’s because the US was about to default due to insolvency because of World War II antiquated power and trade structures. What an obvious red herring!

There’s something else at play here, obviously

yes. a fight between chinese-deutchland-russian (unfortunately) continental countries against us-japan-spain-france-korea-conquiatador countries

Very good posts

I’m talking about the US obviously! I’m obviously talking about whoever has reserve currency status Jesus Christ

Yup, they were already pissed at the handling of covid and now this.

Luckily rare earth minerals are everywhere.

rare earth minerals were never in discussion. but have it your way

Except he tells them beforehand and they're the one selling before the peak, during the peak, and right as it tips, amplifying the dip into a major drop, and then buying the dip.

That might be the most vile part about this whole thing. Zognald is truly trash through and through

I LIKE Chinese people

chinese give you wu flu

chinese flood your country with fentanyl

chinese undercut your labor; contributing to wage stagnation and job loss

CHINA MUH GREATEST ALLY

you are an imbecile, but we all knew that from your memeflag chang

This is literally what US establishment was doing by hiding US and solvency leading to bankruptcy. They were literally block busting every ass asset in market America was involved in. This is how I know you’re not serious posters and shills. You lost

It’s the seller (like Amazon) that has to pay the tariff.
Devaluation basically means they offer more chink junk to Amazon for less dollars.

by hiding US insolvency

rare earth minerals were never in discussion.

Ah sorry. You said rare metals and I read it as rare earth minerals.
The same logic still applies though. The yanks can just open their own mines. As long as they get rid of all the red tape and regulations.

Well that's what I thought, but I was expecting something on how the Chinese somehow got pozzed by this, or at any point, falling for capitalist tricky like the Soviets did, although in a different manner.
Rather it is fair to say China is complicit in the West's suicide, but so are others, like Israel. Not like they have an obligation to stop another country from screwing over itself long-term.

There’s something else at play here, obviously.

As yet I think the situation is simply overrated, a panic, and eventually reality will set in and changes will be fairly minor.
Of course this begs the question whether Trump is intentionally causing such a market shock, and if so for what ends, or whether he simply knows the game well enough, or is confident enough, to not care.
Without any concrete results yet it is difficult to judge the situation. So far it's mostly a lot of yelling.

Good. Fuck amazon. I hate that website.

I'm trying to understand what you are trying to communicate but it seems to be just gibberish

Of course Trump is intentionally causing market shock. That’s the entire point! He’s trying to stabilize global markets and push everyone towards US treasury and bonds for stability So he can influence the fed to drop interest rates and refinancing US debt. He’s going to use the tariffs a new trade deals to pay down the debt.

Intelligence differences over a standard deviation tend to work out like this. You see gibberish and I see what’s happening and able to use it to my benefit.

Yes he's actually a hero trying to save the poor people

Destabilized global markets

My phone keeps auto correcting

I LIKE Chinese people.

you are with:
Germany
Continental Europe
USSR
Balkans
Italy(maybe, they can't sail lol)

you are against:
US
Japan
Korea
Spain - Portugal
Northern Europe
France
UK

Of course this begs the question whether Trump is intentionally causing such a market shock, and if so for what ends,

One reason would be to help the government bond market.
Lets say hypothetically you had massive government debt that needed to be refinanced, but the stock market was really high. You can crash the stock market and suddenly everyone will want to buy your bonds rather than invest in the stock market.

Agriculture has been growing faster than the rest of the economy since then. Boosted even more when the Ukrainian farmers all died mysteriously.

he thinks he's people

that's cute mutt

Laugh*

Rauff*
ftfy
also checked

I can clearly see your paid shill. Your takes are inorganic propaganda.

*you’re

throws phone against the concrete

But this does sound like a bit of an attack on the jews and stock trader class - which naturally would cause a lot of media fallout, while affecting average people not in the slightest.

push investors to less speculative investment that help offset US debt

It does make sense, and even those mathematical tariffs do make sense, if your goal is simply to reduce deficit and debt. The tariffs aren't meant to all stay like this; rather is is also a message:

buy more from us and the pain (tariffs) will go away

all the ZOG nations are worried that the new global heavyweight is ZOG free, they consider that a grave sin that can't be allowed to continue

Your

I wonder if "almost self sufficient" would be a problem with a war and over 1 billion people to feed. What every government on earth fears more than anything else, is its own population.

The first one, not the second obviously

Yep, seems like you’re understanding. Now, obviously, any rational, intelligent person will tell you this might not work out for the best.

can't difirantiate between you're and your

immediately thinks others are as handicapped as him

*sigh*

Based

China nowadays produces 70% of ships worldwide, Americans just can’t compete. China navy already bigger than America.

America produces like 1% btw, lmao.

Judaism not recognized as a real religion by China, unlike other religions like Christianity, Buddhism, ect

There are no Chabad synagogues in China. China must know how this cabal of international bankers operate more like a mafia, than a “religion” with spirituality

be China

stake your entire economic future on being the West’s sweatshop

West decides to cut you off

somehow your victory is inevitable

This must be some kind of Confucian practical statesman economic strategy that my Western pea brain can’t wrap around.

Wasn't it in the 90s that a ton of CIA cells were busted in China and just the other day the CIA was crying about not being able to reestablish their operations there?

kek

Of course I can. *You’re* simply attributing my typo to *your* own misunderstanding. I guess *you’re* mad that I exposed *you’re* a disingenuous shill.

As long as they get rid of all the red tape and regulations.

they aren't, you dufus. they don't exist. As long as it doesn't exist you can skip red tape and regulations

dumb CIA nigger thinks USA doesn't exploit it's own citizens as if they were better than swine

dumb nigger

Venezuela will replace China as the new world manufacturing superpower. You'll see.

Chinx on suicide watch.
It’s so bad they’re pretending to be nips.

he is still having a crashout

oh dear

kek

rage typing again huh?

Not sure but Chinese people are often surprised to learn that you can’t “discuss jews openly” in the west, where we claim to have “freedom of speech”.
US wanted TikTok banned coincidentally around the time people were discussing Zionist power and the war in Gaza

Nobody cares about your coastal cruisers, real naval power is decided by carriers and nuclear subs. America has far and away more of either than the rest of the world combined. Cry about it.

China already has 3 aircraft carriers and building more, China already has a bunch of nuclear subs and building more, China will have double the amount of these ships you have by 2030

This right here is the reason why the West is so worried about China, even though India presents the same kind of threat China does

Reminder that Americans understanding of the Chinese economy is always like 10+ years out of date.
You can tell the Americans are cooked when the 'big plan' is spamming everywhere which looks like something from a "here's one weird trick they don't want you to know about" email chain

trumpist republican party is extremely paranoid

they even fear their own citizens

usa looks fine, but it's rotten inside

Well...
Honestly I don't care about any of you retards, I'm already living a shitty life in a shithole, this shit flinging is very funny.
If I had to bet i'll put my money on the chineses, they starved more than half their peepol not even a century ago and they were still in power. Mutts are already having a meltdown because the switch 2 is delayed. Let's see how this retarded shitshow end.

Watch what happens to the Chinese economy, Friday this week.

it is maritime vs. continental byatch. always was

They have Russia right next door. It's not ideal having to rely on someone else, but there are worse countries to rely on.

This isnt a trade war. Trump is looking to permanently end a percentage of trade. He wont back out of it because debt spending like we are will destroy us. China can jerk off all it wants Trump is doing whatever it takes to end a significant amount of importation of production.

You don’t see the big picture. You don’t seem to realize that the US itself was used as a vector for globalization and was actively being discarded with an expiration date of 2025. Trump is actually attempting to salvage the country. I realize that that’s a simple yet abstract concept that you have trouble grasping

Real naval power is decided by manufacturing output. Everyone always produces too much of what won the last war which gets destroyed by the newly developed counters so everything has to be rebuilt.
Carriers lost to suicide fishing boats in wargames. You can make slow, deep torpedoes that look like whales to the countermeasures. Carriers, jets and even nukes will not be decisive in ww3.

You sure it's Friday this week and not in 2 weeks?

because he knows

To have an example of how much Trump supposedly "knows", just look to his first term.

China will just take Taiwan, the coward orange pig won’t do shit, all Asia will then look at China as the new world power and abandon USA.

If China doesn’t drop their tariffs, 100% Friday 4/11/25 during trading hours when Trump’s new +50% tariffs kick in.

The lead time for creating a new factory in a Western country is 3-10 years at this point. The problem with Trump is not the principle of what he's trying, its that he think everyone is onboard for like 5 years of misery and tanking living standards to get to the finish line. Most Americans probably aren't

A 3 hour special island operation

Imagine if the US wanted that so they could take Greenland, Canada and Mexico. Kek.

The alternative is insolvency, bankruptcy and balkanization Which would result in much lower quality of life.

They are depreciating their currency because they are suffering from deflation. 2 stimulus packages since Sept and it is still deflating, like their gdp, employment, and population.

You already losing Europe because you’re coward cucks, you will lose Asia too, your Middle East adventures will shortly after be over too. You will be isolated and will live in a new world order where you get told what to do, poorer and irrelevant, respected by no one.

Better just keep the status quo then huh? How about you worry about your shithole and we will deal with ours.

So your suggestion is the U.S. continues down the current path to bankruptcy and its people lose everything. Got it, you’re either stupid or disingenuous.

Depends on the goal, knock out china, maybe, but a more pertinent aim is to restore the US, no matter what comes of it for china.

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Once the US gets the new foundation lain, we really have to deal with the crook fraudsters and the leftwingers on the streets reacting to the bullshit the former are slinging.

They’ll die out. They aren’t being funded anymore. The organic support that was created by artificial funding will eventually run out of steam.

Right. China doesn't have a ton of external debt, and so I suppose he can devalue chinks into oblivion, but they'll literally be stuck in china forever. Maybe that's the goal.

Exports to USA aren't even 10% of Chinese GDP. Or was it 12%? Either way not a fatal amount.

It's a very antisemitic action he took. Look up shapiro's rant against tariffs, he looks like an insane demon. Trump needs to do one more thing... add a 0.1% tax to financial transactions, this would generate an additional 1.5-2T per year in revenue.

What do you do about the 5.5M chinese people who live in the US if you go to war with China?

orly? In that case make it 0.5% and get rid of some other taxes.

Even if it’s only 12%, that’s enough to make China’s GDP growth negative. How many smaller manufacturing businesses will collapse?

Too high of a percent and it backfires with less transactions and less overall revenue. But yeah, overall I agree. Trump should also tariff services and tax remittances as well. 6.5T gets funneled out of the US each year through all these various schemes.

Trump's also going to pressure these other countries to buy less from China. For example Thailand has a trade surplus with the US of 30B+ and a trade deficit of 30B+ with China. Same thing with most asian countries, the US buys their shit, and then they turn around and buy chinese trinkets.

Makes sense. China’s trading partners probably don’t want China to flood their countries with cheap goods and undercut their own markets desperately trying to make up for US trade deficits. That seems like a possible reality.

There is a zerohedge article today saying China has 3 options:
1. Concede defeat to whatever terms Trump demands
2. Devalue the yuan by 20-40%
3. Unleash biggest fiscal stimulus in its history (talking $2-3 trillion) which will push its debt off the chart

It seems like number one isn’t plausible because of Egotistical pride. Number two seems off the table because it will chase away from their markets. Maybe number three it is?

capital flight for number two, chase away investors from their markets.

Option 4 is invading taiwan and taking control of the chips. Trump needs someone to scream in his orange ear right now "Tell taiwan to arm their citizens and give them the 2nd amendment, or good luck with china". I find it ridiculous that the US defends Taiwan and they won't allow their citizens to own guns.

There is no international trade without the USA allowing it by not actively sabotaging the just-in-time supply chain.

Option 2 and 3 aren't really any different from one another. The thing is, trump can just keep increasing the tariffs. How much would china realistically devalue their currency? Is Xi really willing go down this path? I think war is a lot closer than people may realize.