No one needs a phone

No one needs a phone

Chinese power demonstrated once again.

THE CHILDREN YEARN FOR THE MINES

could

would

may

can

maybe

might

Sources say, that people familiar with the subject are fucking immense faggots.

could

they wont though will they?

FIGHT

HAH

MAGApedes in 2028

I-I'm sorry I supported Trump please forgive me

no no no not the cattle prod again, I accept reeducation, I accept!

It's okay! You're not going to die without a phone.
You don't need it anyway

oh no, stop subsidizing my cheap chink shit.

They could also not cost that.

Ideally, no.
Life was leagues better without them.

Stop voting your wallet and start voting your Twitter feed.

remember when you niggers made phones? It wasn't that long ago. Now all you do is make the worst furniture on earth.

muhh ifaggot phone

i need a new one every 6 months

Force Apple production to US

Can no longer compete

Goes under

We're winning somehow!

YOU DON'T NEED A PHONE, everything will be fine

Oh look, the globalists really want Americans to continue being their pay pig . They are trying really hard with the propaganders.

The jobs making the phones are much more valuable to a government than the cost savings for the product are to a consumer.

it all depends on volume
and since they'll have to switch from the TSMC process to some other the initial cost will be really high for the SoC
so if they produce a small batch for like a test run, it would cost something like that
technically not wrong
but is purposely misleading

i literally could not care less about what happens to the apple corporation.

Obviously not. You don't need a phone and you don't need a computer.
In new america you need to buy food and maybe housing

i dont need an apple phone. no one uses apple computers.

I think Apple would probably just pay the tariff before they went under completely. It's not like they can't afford it. It would be pretty dumb if they didn't.

yeah i don't get it - i'm perfectly happy with my old as shit iphone. i also own my phone and don't have a payment plan - i think that's where most people get their phones now

You don't need food either, just eat bugs and if you're lucky beans and rice.

Why not make phones in the US that cost $30,000? When TalmudVision first came out it cost half a year’s wages. You will live in the 900 square foot home with one car between you and your wife and your children. You will be happy reporting to your factory job 6 days a week for your 12 hour shift.

Ah okay so you're saying Trump is creating a tax on the consumer

lol, no I obviously just said it was a tax on apple for outsourcing labor

It's paving the way for Musk to create products in place

Huh, weird, why is it so much cheaper to make phones in backward shithole countries by desperately poor people?

I already do all that. Five days a week most weeks but there are plenty of six or seven day weeks too. I live in Ohio. If that’s your idea of dystopia you’ll have to try harder. My 1 bedroom condo is 800 square feet and I own it

Leftists love their slave labor.

could cost $30k

uh because i said so

Where the fuck do these retards get their numbers, we can make this shit here for the same price, it was literally made in the US when they first started making them

Oh yeah I forgot how willing companies are to lower their profits.
It's not like they're beholding to their share holders to maximize profit or anything

Woah buddy chill! You don't need a phone.
It's all going to be okay

They don't have to lower their profits (prices) if people will keep paying it.

anyone who believes 30k is a fucking retard.

So?

Literally just be more efficient. It's not that hard.

Weird that it was possible to produce electronics in the US back in the 90's and early 2000s, at prices that were affordable by even the poorest, but now it's physically impossible. Have to wonder what changed. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

step 1) Realize taxes / tariffs aren't free

step 2) Now remove excess taxes so things are cheaper

step 3) There is no step 3

Wouldn't wages across the board also go up? Apple factory work in America would make like $25 an hour. If a phone that normally costs $1200 shoots up to $30k then so would everything else, including wages.

I only came to say and post this:

I KNEEL TRUMP SAMA

Poor people don't deserve nice things.

could

would

should

yawn, wake me up when it actually happens.

If China weilded that power over the US, $30,000 is what they would already be charging.

We will bring back industry in the USA.

Parasites who live off our system will be uninvited unless they demonstrate value.

That's the end of apple then lol. I can easily go my entire life without ever buying a $30,000 goyslop phone.

I have a galaxy s24 ultra I don't need another phone. nice try kike

The 2028 election has been canceled by President For Life Trump.

That's funny, because greedy ass Apple knows nobody will buy an iphone $30,000 so they'll have to reduce their prices.

cars will be alrady 5000 more expensive this summer in usa. includes used ones

nah, my cingular flip phone from circa 2006 still works, this one will last me a lifetime

iGoy

Yeah I don't care also lol forbes
So, Taylor Swift?

Random faggot on twitter is right. America has been ripping off the rest of the world since WW2. Literally everything Trump says about other countries is reversed. If he says America has been paying for the defense of Europe, the truth is that EU has been paying for America's military and NATO was used only to defend America.
When he says Israel is the biggest ally they need to help, Israel is the biggest enemy that needs to be destroyed.

America has been ripping off everyone and when they will need to build shit for themselves the entire country will collapse. You will never be able to afford an American made phone. Millions lived in poverty in China to bring you cheap phones, and instead of acknowledging the reality Trump spergs out and claims that China was ripping off America. It's insane.

30k slophone is assuming current wages. It would be more expensive if wages were higher.

looks at odometer

24000 miles

Americans finally finding out that the rest of the world has been subsidizing their lifestyles

It's literally the opposite in this case, leftists are fucking retarded.
The biggest and most powerful economy in the world and we sent our investment money into factories in China or Vietnam or some shit and now THEY have the factories, but we have nothing.
We have been supplying the world with cheap Chinese shit by spending american money and technology in other countries and now we can't even make the stuff in our own country. The rest of the world sees this as us being subsidized by them when it's literally the opposite, we shipped all of our shit overseas because of globalist politicians and now our "american" companies spend trillions per year pumping money into China and Vietnam.

This is peak leftoid delusion at the end of the day. An apple phone being made in China is us sending them money, we are literally sending money into their country when we do this shit and it's not spent on any of our infrastructure and the money's not given to our workers.

It's just the most blatant inversion of reality.

Europeans finding out that Americans have been subsidizing their goods, industries and lifestyles

ftfy

My whole life, I was told that as an american, we take the lions share of resources and leave the rest of the world in the cold. Turns out, it was the other way round the whole fucking time. I can't wait to bomb you fucking liars

Thus wages will rise with it

What happened to apple bragging about their innovation? I say we ban foreign manufactured phones and force them to do the innovation they claim to be so good at.

you realize 30k is like 2900% tariff on a 1k phone right? so this is a a retarded take.

Only Apple makes phone

Of my fucking God. I didn't think we have a world renowned economist with us

This seems legitimate and heterosexual. Literally Who? can't just make shit up that isn't real and post it on twitter.

bs email jobs

No one gets hired to this if they have a penis.

70% of zoomer males voted Trump. We will just kill you, retard.

Chyna....

Lol kek what a fucking meme of a country

30000 for a phone lol yeah no

EACH IPHONE WOULD COST SIX GORILLION DOLLARS

Yes, I'm sure the media is being entirely truthful, and not distorting the facts or outright lying at all.

The best part is he knows rent is the main reason nobody including anybody from his brilliant, privileged family, is going to build factories in USA. He won't do shit about it though because money laundering becomes a lot more difficult without exorbitant rent.

rent

you're fucking retarded

"could"

How to protect your ass from liable while downing the markets for that ccp payout.

slave labour is good actually if it means i get cheap phone

women and poorfags completely priced out of smart phones

Good

Labor is slavery now because Trump has turned us commies

No one needs a brand new phone. There's no reason for companies to not support devices much, much longer than they do currently, and force developers to optimize their code. "Progress" isn't progress.

i work in a supermarket and we literally sell nothing i've noticed from america but a hell of a lot of tat from china, something like a ceramic toadstool that will make every 40 year old woman that sees it have a brainblast and stop what they're doing to decide where the best place to put it in their home will be

Vocational work is the only work worth doing. If people are forced into doing what they don't want the society we live in collapses sooner rather than later.

iShit

lol it's already overpriced

could cost

lol just total retardation.

you lost lol YWNBAW lmao

OH NO MY NIGHTMARE RECTANGLE

So slaves built the current iphones? I don't usually give money to slave owners, ok?

20% tariff

price increase by 999999999%

Yeah there's no difference between tariffs and setting up production in the U.S.
Why do you feel the need to misrepresent?
Is this information a threat to you?

What the fuck are you talking about Ququmba? Why did my one line greentext make you go hysterical?

yes men need to get back in the factories, and let fags tell them what to think

Complete nonsense.

i use a nokia.

slop articles by fags and ai deboonking are a match made in heaven
nothing more needs to be said

World's would be a better place if Apple never existed. Especially the internet.

a screencap of a literalwho "news" post repeating an opinion piece by "the experts" used as gotcha.

wow

defensive, incoherent, adhom

Oh sorry, I mistook you for someone with an IQ above 90

Weren't the trash can Mac pros made in america and maxed out at $10k, how would a phone be $30k?

I hate liberals so much, the only solution is to kill them all or use them as slave labor.

i have no money, job

I like how leftists are suddenly concerned about economics

Smartphones are Satan's windows into our souls. We literally don't need them.

Fine with me. People need to buy far less, eschew frivolities, cheap esthetics and vanity purchases, and focus on necessities and carefully selected, high quality products.

$30,000 for a phone

Fuck off! A Fucking Hasseblad camare made 100% in Sweden doesn't cost that! People actually believe this?! Fucking mutts are addicted to fear and propaganda

I remember when the right wing chud grift accounts were all pushing how men had to be entrepreneurs/business owners.
Now it's get back in the wage cage you'll actually love it I promise!
What happened?

Hasseblad camare made 100% in Sweden doesn't cost that

Exactly which is why Apple won't be able to compete and go under

Trump supporters have Stockholm syndrome.

They could also just make a good profit margin rather than something insane. They're viewed as very average phones in China and sell for something like 40% as much while still trying to market themselves as semi-expensive and very premium. Apple doesn't take a loss on those sales either

inb4 muh supply chain transportation costs are $500 per phone

Lol didn't Apple come out with something on the iphone 10 or 11 pro where normies could just photoshop things in on thr fly, and the marketing was just suggesting putting in furniture into a barren apartment? Kek

A refurbished smart phone is $50-100 and then a $100 a year for service afterwards. We have phones the Chinese can buy their own phones.

Yeah, this is good. Perhaps it will stop Apple from releasing a phone every 6 months that has barely any upgrades to the previous model from 10 years ago.

Trump and conservatives are about to destroy the global right wing with this nihilistic spiral, this is turning into a disaster

You need to improve your reading comprehension

Thats 70% of the zoomer males that voted bro only 20% of the zoomer population voted. Damn were ruled by retards

muh leftists

kek, greed and laziness got you where you are faggot, so go ahead get back in the factory, get your head down and breath those fumes in deep, your billionaire masters will cast you aside once your usefulness has ended

there's only one brand of phone. the iphone !

corporate brand cuck

be American

lose your job

pay for the world’s healthcare R&D

pay for the world’s everything R&D really

pay for the ships that secure shipping lanes

pay for literally trillions of investment in continents in Africa to bring them into the 21st century

pay for literally basically everything necessary for all these countries to live in the 21st century

they provide a few cheap products with their low wages they always had regardless and only exist because of American investment

“hurr durr we subsidize you Americans”

Fuck off! A Fucking Hasseblad camare made 100% in Sweden doesn't cost that! People actually believe this?! Fucking mutts are addicted to fear and propaganda

While Hasselblad designs and engineers much of its technology in-house, including key elements like the shutters in their lenses, they source certain parts from specialized suppliers globally. For instance, the sensors in their digital cameras, such as the 50-megapixel and 100-megapixel variants used in the X-series, are widely understood to be sourced from Sony, a leader in sensor technology, though Hasselblad modifies and calibrates them to meet their exacting standards. Lenses, particularly for the H-system, involve collaboration with companies like Fujifilm, which produces the glass based on Hasselblad’s designs, while older V-system lenses often featured Carl Zeiss optics from Germany. Other small components, like screws, circuit boards, or plastic elements, are likely produced by various international manufacturers, as is common in modern electronics to leverage global supply chains and expertise.
The Gothenburg factory focuses on precision assembly rather than raw component production. Reports from factory tours, such as those by Digital Photography Review and The Verge, note that the facility is relatively small—employing around 30 production workers—and doesn’t fabricate parts like metal bodies or glass on-site. Instead, these are delivered as "bits of metal, plastic, and printed circuitry" from external suppliers, then meticulously put together and tested in Sweden. This approach balances Swedish craftsmanship with practical sourcing, ensuring top-tier quality without the need to produce every tiny piece domestically.

Why would an iphone cost 30,000 dollars?
You can pay an American 40 bucks to assemble an iphone and they'd still have a 60% profit margin per unit.

Sony

Fujifilm

Carl Zeiss

This is still top dollar Jorge, is not like they make this in a Foxconn sweat shop. Far from it.

implying that amerigoyim won't mortgage and put everything on loan just to buy the latest iPhone

Nigger, DoorDash is looking into "buy now pay later" schemes for Americans ordering their daily triple bypass burgers

Because people need more useless shit from Temu and Amazon.

Chingchong, that just proves their cameras are not 100% made in Sweden as they get parts from all over the world. That's why the cost for a fully made in US iphone is $30k

Why would an iphone cost 30,000 dollars?

That's the cost of avoiding tariffs and making the iphone entirely in the US, because they would need to build factories for

mining and processing rare earths

lithography machines

semiconductors

motherboards

OLED screens

batteries

camera modules

lenses

sensors

capacitors, resistors

connectors

speakers

screws

casings

assembly plants with skilled workers

don't bother arguing with leftoids, they should be sent to the front lines in ukraine

Igual, el teléfono se puede hacer en el culo del mundo y no va a costar $30k. Si ya están sacando obleas de TSMC en Arizona en menos de dos años y con todo en contra (qué es infinitamente más complicado que hacer máquinas de Instagram), creo que de verdad se subestima la necesidad y se crea un pánico ridículo como este. Donde hay mercado se hace, así de simple.
Agrega que los gringos son cinturones negros en salir de crisis.

t. Machine Designer, lived in Costa Rica 4 years

Meaningless leftist seethe and a low-quality post, this is all that they have.

It took them 2 years to do what they said was impossible in Arizona

That's the crazy part about all of this, that's really all it takes. That's for ONE factory, sure, but once you get the ultimatum economy-wide that those jobs have to come home they can open up the stuff overnight because it becomes the best place to park your money if you're investing in the american market - and everyone is doing so because of how it's still more stable and reliable than the rest of the world.

The one thing that would lag behind all of the technology we could rebuild almost overnight is skilled labor, but that can be taught and factories can still run with a lack of it, only at decreased efficiency.
6 months to 2 years and you have the skilled labor trained.

One of Trump's Agenda 47 things he wants to do is open up America University an online university which is free to attend and he wants it to be the best school in the country. Interesting that no one has talked about that.

You're a man after my own heart

America is a relatively low population country that's subsidized by the entire world due to the system put in place after world war 2. The entire system of international law, organizations and rules was created to artificially put America and US dollar in the center of everything.

The system would happily continue for quite a while, but everyone who set up that system is dead and new Americans believe extraordinary privileges are a law of the universe, and started dismantling the entire system they created as they only see the negligible administrative cost to run those structures. USAID was only $40B per year, and the way it worked was "if you don't buy American weapons those programs go away", "sell that factory to an American company if you want to keep those programs", where the cumulative gained amount was much larger than the cost. Essentially, it was an obfuscated global bribery program because "programs" were carefully managed to disproportionately benefit pro-American factions.

Take all that away and the natural economic strength of America is between Brazil and Germany. In addition to population too low to sustain everything on domestic demand (which is only possible for China), population density in the US is very low. American cities are very inefficient due to low density.

In the short run, it's bad for everyone, including Americans of course, because complete rearranging of everything is extremely expensive. At worst, it may result in massive wars which can destroy trillions worth of wealth. There's inherent value in stability even if that requires subsidizing the lifestyle of an average American.
If no major wars happen, the system will rearrange itself without subsidizing Americans, making it better for the rest of the world but much worse for Americans.

Si ya están sacando obleas de TSMC en Arizona en menos de dos años y con todo en contra

Asumes un Made in USA pero con materiales, componentes y maquinaria adquiridos fuera de EEUU. Las máquinas litográficas las compran de ASML, empresa holandesa. Las tierras raras las adquieren de China, que procesa el 90% de las tierras raras.

I hope he makes some moves on it, but I don't have too much hope in the education racket being dismantled that much. I expect some minor improvements in that area, but for 90% of the focus to be on the federal government instead.

Milo Yapinopenis

we dont need phones anyway

we love working in the factories

What the fuck is going on in America

Society would be better without smartphones desu.

This, but unironically. You fuckin kids can't even imagine life without a phone. It's pathetic.

iphones priced at $30k

god I hope so apple would be gone so fast. I bet an android would still be couple of hundred, you can get one just about anywhere in the world for $100. Wish it wasn't such google spyware, it really is an amazing piece of tech

Isn't it funny how the iPhone it literally "ip hone" and nobody has ever said anything about that

buy android

$200

Uh huh. You fags used this excuse to export all manufacturing in the 1970s-90s, back when everything was still cheap.

Good, we should just go back to flip phones. Smart phones was a mistake

iphones are the only type of phone

Hope they get FUCKED

Unironically yes. White people make shit. We either make shit or we blow it up. Remember what happened when you tried to make it impossible for Hitler to make shit? He blew shit up. Stop it.

Absolutely. Bring it down on your heads.

Yes, absolute boomer destruction.

migatards rationalizing living like Cubans and having to spend 15 hours a day putting on little screws to assemble phones is the funniest shit ever

Daily reminder that you won't do shit.

Ahh, yes. Thank you for that brilliant source "uppity African."

flag

Oh... wait. It's you, isn't it.

How will I be able to mine shitcoin with these tarrifs?

Cool. So we agree they will do anything to increase profits.
So then why do they charge what they do now Miss "uppity African"? Why not raise the prices now, that would surely increase profits? It's almost like there is a ceiling on maximum prices above which demand actually causes them to lose money... but surely demand stops existing because "uppity African" can't get her sail foam.

They know they can't sell their product past a certain price point, dipshit. Why are leftists this fucking dumb?

Welcome to America where a slice of bread and some water costs $30k and the workers only make $0.12 a week...

Your workers would be dead.

cost of making an iphone 150$

ceo will get his new yacht one month later

oh noooo

They know they can't sell their product past a certain price point

Of course. That's my entire point.
What point do you think you're making?
Apple can't survive U.S production

Capitalism is unsustainable

This is who came up with the $30,000 figure.

"not my heckin slop-phone!"

Fake news headline for scaring braindead normies. Tariffs are 100% at most, so the price will double at most. Embargo has not and never was being on the table.

There are more regular, Trump voting people employed than internet socialists employed. What world do these retarded fucks live in? Can we exile them yet?

me, retired at 35 because lolbitcoin purchases in 2012 and voted for Trump

You faggots can't even talk to women in public lmfao

That'll just make them more likely to want to kill you. So glad to be blessed with such retarded enemies.

tfw they really dont have phones

Still surprised no one in that audience had a phone

be american.

make yourself poor.

KEK THE ABSOLUTE STATE

come home white man

cope

cope

cope

the new generation of Americans no longer want the system put in place by the post ww2 generation

This is correct because it is no longer serving the majority of Americans who feel driven to create an order of their own based on the founding ideals of America.
Everything else you said are copes.

Right, I suppose for these companies to maintain their insane margins. How much do you think the materials in an iPhone are worth? They could sell iPhones for half their current cost and still make a handy profit.

this guy is a weird fag but i agree with the message. i work in oil and gas, and there is something very primal and rewarding about getting home at the end of the day exhausted but knowing you got tangible shit done in the field.

So let me get this straight the new iphone (goy phone) is $30,000 but I can pick up a literal burner phone (tracfone) that drug dealers use for $30 on amazon right now.
Do you guys not have phones?

OP has posted this exact thread 40 times. Check 4plebs .

Zoomers have no idea how much better life was when you didn't have some jew in your pocket bothering you every 5 minutes. I wish we could go back to the landline era.

Basically Apple will go back to good old day of no Niggers.
The iPhone enabled niggers to go online and we have been in hell ever since.

Trios of truth have spoken

Of course he does, the US doesn't produce anything of value.
The only thing they produce is fear and instability with their war machine.

Trump wants Europe to subsidize the Americans military spending with nothing in return, a absurd notion.

labor for each phone costs less than a dollar

charge $2000 already

I think there’s some room in the budget

You got the part about Israel right at least. Keep your eyes open. We will continue ripping everyone off and they will thank us. Time to get off the test. Simple as

Capitalism without restraint, in its ultimate form, desires to be oligarchy. What we are seeing is the ultra wealthy trying to butcher the most prosperous country in the world and sell it for parts so that the american people will be content to be sweatshop workers. Just the billionaires and the extremely poor, with no middle class in between.

Phones are fucking cancer. The world would improve overnight if we could no longer afford phones.

Correct. Cell phones are evil.

They would save money on transport

I doubt it takes an employee over an hour to make one phone, realistically the price increase would be 200 bucks at most

You are so fucking stupid that I cannot understand your smugness. Humble yourself. Confidence in shit you know nothing about is highest in the ignorant, and you're showing it

Out of all the political group, I never would have guessed that right wing conservatives would end global capitalism aka slavery of other nations

emotional, defensive and adhom

no counter argument

It's a sign of low intelligence to lash out in anger when confronted with factual information

be more efficient

have to pay amerimutts at least 17 dollars to do what basically a cavemen can do

It's impossible unless we change the minimum wage to 3 dollars

It's if it's manufactured in the usa which isn't far off. The minimum wage is no joke

A refurbished smart phone is $50-100 and then a $100 a year for service afterwards.

I bought a refurbished Google Pixel 5 off amazon a year ago at $120 and use mint mobile unlimited plan for about 200/yr.
I know it's google, but I like pure android

If Trump brings back the era of phone booths and people actually talking to each other instead of being devoured by the pocket demon, he'll become the greatest president of all time, internationally.

I should really change to mint mobile. Next time I talk to mommy, I'll let her know of the affordable prices. Do they have family plans

They can't just magically, overnight, Switch the whole process they had been using for more than a decade now. Semiconductor chips manufacturing isnt easy. Those prices are very close to the real thing.

ye it will cost a lot for the test run
but if that goes well they enter mass production and the cost per unit drops fast
if it doesn't then it never reaches the market

its like saying BYD would cost a lot to produce in the US if you add on the price of building a factory for it and only making 1000 cars for example

Hmm that makes sense.

If phones made here would cost that much, it's an indicator of something else being deeply wrong with our economy.
If we can't manufacture because the cost of manufacturing labor is too high, then we need to adjust that somehow.
Though it's hilarious to hear leftists ignore the fact that we basically thrive off of communist slave labor to enjoy higher qualities of life, so long as it lets them bash Trump.

Nooo we need new phones every 2 years!

Omg noooo you can't take away my imported cheap consumer products!

This is leftists in Trump's America. They're suffering cognitive dissonance that makes Hal-9000 seem consistent.

But still the price will still be ridiculous co pare to what we have now. It will still take time to get the manufacturing right thus the price per phone will still be very very high. I mean iphones prices are high now. They are almost 1.5k for new ones, imagine if they were manufactured in the usa? Probably like 10k

This is what happens when you give something as important as semi conductor production to one nation aka taiwan. And bend a knee to the liberal asking for minimum wage.

Also more than likely it will never leave test runs or they will need to make an inferior phone that is cheap. Again this will never happen since manufacturing in the usa is a delusional dream specially for phones.

it will be more expensive to produce
but not an order of magnitude more
and iphones don't cost a grand because they cost a grand to produce (and pay for other shit around it)
they cost as much as they think is the maximum amount someone is willing to pay

so again it will cost about the same if made in high enough quantities
it will be inferior tho, because american fabs are behind tsmc technologically
but 7nm isn't bad either

this faggot is never going to touch grease and he's saying shit on x