White House says additional 104% tariffs on China went into effect today at noon.
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White House says additional 104% tariffs on China went into effect today at noon
Even with 104% tariffs, BYD is cheaper than Elon's jewish car
Simping for chink cars? Kys.
Dont tell anyone why its not smart to buy a Chinese car, let them buy it and then find out the hard way. These people are beyond retarded and it will be a life lesson on why China is bad when they finally figure it out.
BYD is cheaper
Like how Amazon used to be unquestionably the cheapest place to buy things?
great now my ali purchases got fucked.
why is a chink car better than Elon's?
BYD is an attempt at destroying what's left of the american car industry
it was so blatant that even biden put massive tariffs on that (but somehow no leftists complained, strange)
Additional?
So on top of the 54% for a total of 158%?
same slide thread over and over
When is the government going to b& foreign countries from owning American land, like China owning hundreds of thousands of acres of farmland, or having their own law enforcement?
And? These are the same companies that will replace you with a jeet or a spic in a heartbeat; why should I give a fuck about them getting out-competed? Why is it "globalism for thee, protectionism for me?"
It was a jewish scam when Biden did it and it's a jewish scam when Trump does it.
he said, while simping for a jewish car
Trump and mutts keep saying how beautiful and great tariffs are
China tries it out because of the hype
suddenly this makes trump and mutts mad
???
why should I give a fuck about them getting out-competed
because it's artificially strong competition by a hostile nation. the chinese government is helping these companies undercut the US so that we close all of our factories
once our factories are closed, china is free to ramp up prices back to where they were when we made shit here
they've done this for every single industry they've taken out in the US
we need US manufacturing, it's unacceptable to depend on chinks for anything
artificially strong competition
unlike Tesla, amiright? Picrel
You can apply that logic to literally any foreign competition whatsoever, so why not argue for a complete ban on all imports? Why stop at the product that hurts Elon's profit margin?
china only builds cars to spite america
kek
shill harder
maybe they want to build cars for themselves instead of sponsoring jewish labor unions by buying overpriced muttmerican shitmobiles
I'd like to say this is hyperbole, but it's true. BYD is still cheaper even though it's made artificially expensive by ZOG capitalists. Tesla even uses BYD's batteries. It's amazing what a country can do when it's not held back by jews.
Do you think chyna can also produce cheaper missiles to sink all of US carriers if the US decides they want to try something
because it's artificially strong competition by a hostile nation.
the only reason why china is "artificially strong" is because they don't give half of their tax money to jews and the other half to niggers. When you don't have a bunch of useless parasites to subsidize, the cost of everything goes down.
This will accelerate US production.
$38 billion for Elon to make a shittier car than BYD, which only got 10% that amount kek
It's so humiliating
I simp for Chevrolet faggot, I love my SS 454 dually.
Brown cope, stay coping retard. Tariffs arent going anywhere.
(but somehow no leftists complained, strange)
Not really you rock muncher. And it really sucks how this has been explained to you literal cultist monkeys thousands of times and you STILL don't fucking grasp it.
Targeted tariffs are a tool to support a specific domestic industry. Like cars. Broad tariffs on everything are a tool to destroy your country because this also affects raw materials used by absolutely every other industry, unless you have complete autarky. We do not, not even close.
what a retarded fucking argument. is tesla purpose built to nuke other countries' industries? is it subsidized for that purpose? no the fuck it isn't. and those $38B likely include gov contracts for satellites which you equivocate to be the same as subsidies for nothing, you brown tranny
that's a fair point, but it doesn't explain the entire difference. china has used predatory pricing and actual subsidies to take out other industries in the US like i said, saying at cost or at a loss WITH slave labor to destroy our industries.
it's the closest equivalent to nuking our infrastructure without actually bombing it, actually it's better because they also steal every technology associated with the products made outsourced there
The fuck? I put off shorting the market because they said it would be tomorrow yesterday
china has nothing we can't get from white countries that don't eat dogs and aren't plotting to kill us. the only reason they're major producers is because they undercut other suppliers
now kill yourself reddit faggot
yes its the chinese who are bringing down the U.S. middle class and browning the land! no guilty party on our soil, thank god. Are you now or have you ever been a member of the chinese communist party?
This headline just came out I think it’s still tomorrow
Even with 104% tariffs,
1.000.000% it is then
i never said there were no guilty party on US soil. both democrats and republicans have done nothing to stop this, allowing corporations to prioritize profits over national security. we should have used targeted tariffs much earlier.
If your company can get nuked by a competitor that has a fraction of your funding, then your company deserves to get fucking nuked, you parasitic kike.
Tesla has earned $11.4 billion in regulatory credits from federal and state programs aimed at boosting the electric-car industry, and experts say its sales have been bolstered by a federal $7,500 electric-vehicle tax credit for consumers.
So at least 3x the government subsidies for Tesla - not SpaceSex. It's extra ironic that the government wants/requires us to buy EVs for the environment, now, yet they're banning the best option.
but somehow no leftists complained
because those were targeted tariffs, which make sense. you use them to protect your own industry.
blanket tariffs are fucking retarded. you want to move the production of socks or shit like that back to the US? lmao
china has nothing we can't get from white countries
news flash, anon - you declared a trade war on us, too.
your own industry.
reminder that Tesla is an Indian company at this point. Their success does not create jobs for me.
yes its the chinese who are bringing down the U.S. middle class
This but unironically. The shift of manufacturing to China helped destroy the middle class. I'm not sure how this tranny is so dumb.
you want to move the production of socks or shit like that back to the US?
Yes. Fuck you and your lederhosen. German sock shills never tire or slacken.
PC with 4080 super
xbox series x
working Wii
Not my problem
Educate yourself. The chink cars can drive on water and fly
Just because there's time deadlines doesn't mean things are full black and white, absolutes, we might feel things next week, or we've been feeling the entire past week, your choice
we are operating on Chinese timezone differences now
that's it, China won, thanks Don
That's because you get what you pay for.
experts say
experts say you can eat my dick VPN chinkfaggot. life costs more in the US than in your parasitic 'country'.
and for the 3rd time it's also not fair competition if said company is being helped by the government via espionage and currency manipulation
too late for that
nooo you can't just defend yourself from a hostile nation and starve them!! it says so right there in my economics book!!!
kys
who cares. you are and will be much better off than china and you deserve worse. not putting up global tariffs would just lead to goods being smuggled in through different countries
the goal is to have an industry again, not play games
via espionage and currency manipulation
Nice cope Elon, go get better at Diablo 4 before you embarrass yourself again
You never answered my question: Why protect EVs specifically? Why not ban every single import to "protect American businesses?" It's not like EVs are a vital industry, unlike agriculture.
They won't go into effect, just trust me on that one.
My bet is the Xi will be disappeared within a month
That's because you get what you pay for.
And sometimes you pay for smarter engineers who just make better, cheaper products (or have access to cheaper materials). Elon himself said that without trade protections, BYD would wipe out every other auto manufacturer. Maybe he should've hired Americans instead of rajeesh.
but somehow no leftists complained
Plenty of leftists complained, but democrats aren't leftist
you are and will be much better off than china and you deserve worse.
And yet, we will not sell that shit to you. We will let you go through with your suicide and ally ourselves with China instead.
I don't even think that's a good outcome for us, but it is what will happen.
You tried to call a bluff when you have nothing on your hand.
You're fucking retarded and the nation that will suffer the most out of any of them is the US.
But keep coping I guess, it's not like anything can stop this anymore anyway.
Why not ban every single import to "protect American businesses?
we just did that and you faggots are crying
too low IQ to keep track of a simple conversation and your talking points? no wonder they assigned addtl shills to back your brown ass up
thirdies will finish you off without chinks needing to do much
maybe if you had pay your NATO dues, we wouldn't despise you so much. EU is a parasite much like china
had paid*
we just did that and you faggots are crying
No we didn't, retard. We put tariffs on them. And the whole argument for them is "we can bring other countries to the negotiating table to get rid of tariffs against us." That's why they're called RECIPROCAL tariffs. Absolute chimp.
making the imports unprofitable is essentially a ban, fucktard
even redditors have realized that they're not reciprocal tariffs but rather a strategy to reduce the trade deficit of the US, i.e. a way to bring back manufacturing to the US. why else would they reject offers of zero-for-zero from vietnam and the EU?
essentially
copium. It is not a ban. Stop trying to do mental jewnastics to make it sound like a ban. They are TARIFFS. Not BANS.
The U.S. does the same with bailouts every few years only it never helps for long.
it has the same effect, it is effectively a ban
disincentivizing imports protects american industry
whether it's a ban or a tariff doesn't matter, that's just a red herring fallacy from some desperate chink shill
american car industry
Nooooooooooo not the American car industry!!!!! NOOOOOOO!! How will I buy a shitty generic pickup truck for $80,000 made by union thugs with an 8th grade education?!?!?! Muscle cars were cool when boomers were kids in the 1960s therefore we must always support American cars!!!!
Kek
for every single industry they've taken out in the US
Like what?
protects american industry
unless they crumble from retaliatory tariffs. That's why every rich person is calling Trump retarded, right now. The reason for the tariffs is more goytax for israel. Trump said this himself.
china has used predatory pricing and actual subsidies to take out other industries in the US like i said,
This is such dogshit cope, the real question is, why doesn't usa do it? Every euro country did
trade deficits have destroyed every empire in existence. This is well known. The only way to avoid destruction is to conquer and fill the coffers with the spoils.
late cold war was won by telling every shithole you can dump cheap shit on the american consumer by far at the time the richest in the world. Every shithole got capital investment and jobs that were desperately needed since first world vaccinees and hygiene cause shithole populations to explode.
pipe down pseudojeet
better to employ 1 union US guy than 10,000 chinks
and we can work out deals with nations that import a lot from the US, but a reset is necessary. when will it be too much? do we have to wait until china starts shitting out 6th gen fighter jets that look suspiciously like our own? EV cars that are suspiciously "inspired" by our own? CPUs that use our trademarked methods? you're a traitor at best
So is there any actual evidence that BYD stole Tesla's IP? IP which they open-sourced, by the way:
Tesla clearly defines who may use Tesla patents and what the actual price is. It's basically an "eye for an eye" contract, pledging not to initiate patent lawsuits against a party "acting in good faith." That is, a party that does not assert any patent or other intellectual property right against Tesla or against a third party "for its use of technologies relating to electric vehicles or related equipment."
this means that any third party using Tesla's patents will be unable to enforce its own EV patents against Tesla or other companies
Basically, Tesla invited competition to have open-source patents with them, and they're losing.
thirdies will finish you off without chinks needing to do much
Explain how this happens so I can lol.
lmfao
ngl idgaf
The absolute madman! How high can Donald go?
It's called the free market you fucking retard. If China makes better cars cheaper, shouldn't that choice be the consumer, not the gov't shitting down our throats by making foreign cars basically illegal.
the american car industry
That's been gone for a long time bud
I'm sure the new old factories will retvrn to US fast enough to offset entire economy imploding from everything turning prohibitively expensive over night
BYD is an attempt at destroying what's left of the american car industry
BYD makes electric vehicles. The US doesn't have the infrastructure for electric vehicles yet. How would BYD destroy the US auto industry anywhere but the handful of cities with enough EV chargers?
tfw americans won't drive chinkmobiles
china has nothing we can't get from white countries
Tea and porcelain coming out of China cannot be beat. Full stop. My business is fucked.
No it isn't. EVs are shitty car anyway.
The reason it isn't is because all the fucking parts are also 104%. It has zero warranty on the battery. What the BYD warranty on battery. Car is dead much quicker than a shitty Tesla. I hate EVs all of them. But those parts are also 104%. What was its starting price multiply 104%. When it runs out of warranty if it even sold a warranty at 104% of the parts price. You have a car that isn't covered. You stupid idiot
i'm not going to go into specific examples or companies. the chinese are overtly proud of cheating any chance they get, and that's good enough for me
not when they're artificially cheaper
again without tariffs you might get a tesla or porsche ripoff for 15k, but once every US car manufacturer whose minimum is 25k bites the dust, do you think china has any reason to not increase their min. to 25k?
now you're paying the same you were before, but your children and neighbors can't get a job. congratulations for helping the enemy
What are you talking about. Dynasty classical pottery cannot be beat. It's an antiquity called a Ming Vase
Everybody on the Planet makes pottery. Tea cups and plates and porcelain. The communists are probably cheaper.
Doesn't exist, you are projecting a name on a brand that doesn't work nor has the same people it did years ago
This logic works both ways
tariffs to artificially suppress the competition until only Tesla remains
now you're stuck with >$60,000 EVs for a car that's the same quality as BYD's $12,000 ones
well apparently Tesla's now using BYD batteries KEK BYD's quality is comparable. If it was shit, Western companies wouldn't need >100% tariffs to compete.
China should just stop exporting to USA altogether and Trump would be hanged from the statue of liberty by deprived American consumers
the nice man's van has free candy and it tastes the same as the candy store's
hurry up and deport yourself to a country that is smart enough to get the free candy then faggot
Dude, democracy and free market are just words for the goyim
They let us play with elections and shit but the moment something important comes up all the freedom is suspended
they won’t
we’re literally their largest importer.
Again: Tesla received 3x the subsidies of BYD.
I'm going to be buying US stocks and Chinese stocks like a mother fucker. If you don't do the same, you don't know how this shit works. You are not going to get another opportunity like this for a long time.
That's trade balance, dumbass.
Read the two middle columns
i read all of the columns. they’re beautiful columns.
it says that they export more than they import, which was my point that still stands, retard.
free candy from my parents is the same as free candy from the van
you're too retarded to know you're wrong
Chingchong ping pang
Will it still be cheaper when it's a worthless piece of junk after 20,000 miles?
Apparently US imports are 20% just from that chart but those aren't all the countries China exports to so apparently it's true that USA is only 10% of Chinese exports, they can literally ditch you and barely feel it
Admitting Elon is your father replacement figure
The guy doesn't even take care of his own kids and you think he gives a fuck about his workers? Did you already memory-hole him dying on the hill of importing jeets to replace American workers?
At least chinks will give me a white monkey job, kek. American companies don't give a fuck about you, retard. First they simp for niggers, next they simp for jeets.
if i had a dollar for every one of you stupid dipshit foreigners saying retarded things taking out of your ass it would be like i won the lotto
t. electric grid bulk power engineer
If that was a thing, Western countries wouldn't need 100% tariffs to compete.
muh 10%
barely feel it
as a country we are their largest importer and the difference between what we import from them relative to what we export to them is massive.
this means that as a country, our tariff policy hypothetically affects them more than any other individual nation on the planet.
it was you telling me to check the graph, and yet that didn’t occur to you?
They're shit electric cars. When I see it's an electric car coming to pick me up on dadi app in China, I cancel them. I swear, quarter of the time those fucks run out of power if going across the city and they get stuck in traffic or there's any weather conditions causing delays. Like fuck no, I'm not paying full price for a ride if never got to the destination cause the dumb fuck picked me up at 40% power and can't make it across city with traffic.
us china deficit is 1.5% of their gdp
they just devalued the yuan yesterday and s&p or moodys whatever reduced their growth forecast from 4.7 to 4.2
orange nigger's tantrum is priced in because you don't matter anymore
so they’re going to pay even more to purchase not only our exports, but their own domestic products?
Western countries
Only USA has literally 2x tarrifs
?????
Should Canada ease its 100% tariff on electric vehicles from China amid trade war with U.S.?
strawman
elon's an anti white faggot and so are you
Welp, nevermind. Didn't know Canada was equally retarded on tarrifs.
I was wrong, it's only 17% according to that chart lmao and those aren't even all the countries so probably under 10%
But we're their largest importer
Look, retard. Say you have a bar. Every day one guy comes and drinks for 100 dollars and 200 people come and drink for 10 dollars each. He might be the biggest spender but in the totality of your trade he's irrelevant because he only gives a 100$ while the other 200 give 2000$ altogether
Do you understand, retard ?
Regardless, it will be cheaper than the domestic crap we produce.
Well we ban them because they are deathboxes that are built with stolen intellectual property, but it would also be a hazard to the consumer allowing them to get fleeced out of that much money for something that will break down in five years.
And that anti-White faggot is the #1 beneficiary of the EV tariffs that you defend. The average American is losing a lot of money because of them.
stolen intellectual property
see: Is there actual evidence of this or are you all parroting the same Fox News jew?
The domestic crap I drive has 200,000 miles on it and still drives like it's brand new.
The concept of building something to last is alien in Chinese culture. Everything there looks great when it's shiny and new, but they give no thought to how it will be years later because they are always cranking out new shit.
of course i understand.
and now im paying $10 like everyone else and leaving $90 of inventory on the shelf.
comprende?
Chinese battery companies literally use copycat versions of patented technology they developed in collaboration with Western companies. You invest with them, they leave you high and dry, and the shit you made with them ends up on the market under a new name. They don't give a flying fuck about intellectual property.
Why not just 1 trillion % at this point
But Tesla is copying BYD's batteries now, so they're also stealing that battery patent kek
it's only OK when jews steal IP
BYD literally only exists because Elon gave away his technology in exchange for using chink slaves.
Oh no no no, 104% ?!
What can Xi and the Chinese do now?
They lost, it's over.
$38 billion "government funding". INCLUDES MOSTLY ACTUAL SERVICES, RETARD.
You know like you pay for a service like every other big company does.
Fuck off shiteater.
Sell sell sell.
You government needs the tax revenue from the sales.
Tesla has earned $11.4 billion in regulatory credits from federal and state programs aimed at boosting the electric-car industry, and experts say its sales have been bolstered by a federal $7,500 electric-vehicle tax credit for consumers.
So this was for EV makers. How much did all the others get?
then they now possess the capital to get buy selling among themselves.
they should just say thank you.
well apparently Tesla's now using BYD batteries
....In some EU cars. They use their own batteries and from Panasonic in their other cars.