As has been pointed out here this week...

As has been pointed out here this week, Trump is trying to force capital out of the “casino” (no crying remember) into treasuries (us debt).

China has a potential symmetric response. And it’s not in tariffs as China knows it runs a trade surplus and this isn’t its realm of leverage. Let me explain. It’s not complicated. If any nation A runs a current account deficit with nation B, then it inevitably appears as a trade deficit.

See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_deficits_hypothesis

Which inevitably builds up the manufacturing base of nation B to the competitive detriment of nation A.

Now consider the nation A had that extra spending capacity because it was more developed in the past but this led to higher wages, prices and entropy/atrophy and inevitably corruption of financial elite classes who benefit through financialisation and offshoring to nation B.

Now as nation be builds its base by giving real tangible goods what does it get back? Paper. Which was immediately converted to the treasuries interest paying debt of nation A.

So Trump is trying to tank this paper scheme to get money back into US bonds and it also chokes China. But China holds huge amounts of these treasuries he’s trying to refloat. Now if you are China. Do you retaliate directly on tariffs where’s you are weak as you run a trade surplus. Or hit them where it hurts. And dump billions in treasuries. Not all at once. But to bare your teeth. And before any suggests the US should buy such a treasury dump on the way down. That’s been tried before and if that happens. Buy gold and silver and lots of it.

Final note. The rate at which this is accelerating is astonishing. And the Chinese have already assumed those bonds will never be paid back now. Because the us wants war and debts aren’t honoured in these times. So why wouldn’t they weaponise this worthless paper at this point?

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The absolute state of Western discourse: Citi downgrades China’s 2025 GDP forecast by half a percent, and nobody even blinks. But the second Trump screams “104% TARIFFS!!!” on social media, it’s doomer hysteria like China’s gonna implode tomorrow. Bro, they shaved 0.5 off a 4.7% projection and shrugged. That’s the economic equivalent of stubbing your toe—annoying, not fatal. Meanwhile, Americans are jerking each other off over made-up numbers like tariffs are nukes, not taxes that consumers eat. China’s playing the long game. They restructure, stimulate internally, reroute trade. The U.S.? It rage-posts and stockpiles inflation.

The delusion is wild. These tariffs aren't economic shockwaves—they’re desperate tantrums from a country watching the future slip out of its hands. If 104% tariffs were the kill shot, China would’ve been in a coma in 2018. Instead, they’re signing deals, stabilizing growth, and setting up a post-dollar world while America shouts at its own shadow. No one in Beijing is sweating this. They already priced in Trump’s ego and built an economy that doesn’t need American validation. The only people being wrecked are the ones cheering for $25 Big Macs while pretending they're sticking it to the CCP.

China can outlast us in a war of attrition.

4. Give two fucks about it and put more tariffs on us goods

yes I get it, but dept is rising and bonds arent. if that is the plan. its not working so far.

No they can't

How? They import a significant portion of their food from the US.

Option 3 is the only real option.

Same shit was said by libtards about Russia.

ZOMG THE SANCTIONS WILL CRUSH THEM, THEIR ECONOMY IS CRASHING!

Now it's stronger than it's been in the past 30 years.

chatgpt should be a bannable offense unless specifically requested or denoted

MAGAtards are idiots. China makes the stuff we need. The country that actually makes stuff holds all the cards. What exactly can we withholding from them? Green paper that we create out of thin air?

No they can't you fucking retard

The only people throwing tantrums are you shill faggots.

because something happened to another country it happens to others

the entire world sanctions NK and it has cannibalism. Fuck off with you retarded logic leftypol kike

Easy af. Devalue Yuan. Thats what they've been doing all the time. Keeping the currency artificially low, to boost the exports.

Not yet. They could. But imagine if China got as agressive in the buying of treasuries games as Trump is getting in the tariffs game. Basically. Both sides can do incredible damage to one another to little benefit aka a zero sum game. And it’s happening at light speed.

he entire world sanctions NK and it has cannibalism. Fuck off with you retarded logic leftypol kike

NK is a backwater shithole. China and Russia aren't.

Exactly. No way that crap was written as a response one minute later. Never mind it’s mindless nonsense.

As has been pointed out here this week, Trump is trying to force capital out of the “casino” (no crying remember) into treasuries (us debt).

And that post was written by an absolute fucking imbecile.
No one buys 30 years bonds at a low interest rate when the government acts that erratic and you can't predict what will happen tomorrow, let alone have any certainty that the US will even still exists in its current form 30 years down the road.
The less predictable your future is, the more you'll have to pay for people lending you money.

China is a backwater paper tiger retard that depends on us and will starve without our food the point is because something happened to one country doesn't mean it won't happen to others thats why we generally do economic sanctions because they work leftypol kike

But the US can play that game too. But where is this pattern heading. Nowhere good for anyone if you reason it out it seems. To outright war if history is a guide. And that’s been gamed out. As in, game over.

I don’t think you understand how bonds work. You have to hold them for the term.

You *dont* have to

kek, who are you going to sell them to? you think anyone will by high risk low yield shit from you?

how can you devalue it any further?
the whole point of the yuan was that it was comparatively very cheap so it further incentivised manufacturing in China.
if you devalue it further it will start to cut into sustainability of the entire system (from the perspective of your average chinese working-age person)

they are a somewhat good savings option if they are inflation-adjusted before interest.
if whatever future US intends to have any credibility, they will have to honour these bonds.

Consider this. Trump can ride out trying to burst the equities bubbles and divert the captial to treasuries. But what happens if China presses the button on bursting the treasuries bubble. And consider they’ve enough bullets to trigger a dozen shocks to that market and now all the big money safe havens are plummeting in the us. What now? Politically where does that game lead? For China and the US? And the world? I mean good for gold and silver bugs. Like me but that’s a danger world to navigate and be safe in anywhere.

When you realise it’s not real money. The answer is. The bottoms the limit.

Now it's stronger than it's been in the past 30 years.

he bought it

kek

this is written by AI

China needs the american consumer and i dont think anyone even debates this.

Is this the same reuters that misreported a tariff pause yesterday and caused a trillion dollar whoopsie?

it's not real money.

it is though, it might not be backed by gold, but it's still backed by the entire economic system built upon that currency.
the chinese are, as far as I am aware, already operating on razor-thin margins on daily life products, devaluing would have to mean massively inflating everything, but that couldn't work since you can't sell much more below margin, no matter how many zeroes are on the banknotes.
conversely, if you wanted to give yourself more leeway, you'd have to increase prices on exported goods, effectively discouraging foreign investors from conducting business in china.
either way, that's what Trump would want.

you should probably explain why he's wrong rather than just scream gpt. even if its gpt, explain why the reasoning used to arrive there is flawed

You do know that most stuff they make is made in america first then sent over theee then sent back right?

It’s worth pointing out that 2 will probably crater their household spending and at a time where their biggest consumer just vanished

But American consumption is based on DEBT! Which is China buying treasuries. Can’t you see the duality? You said it. CONSUMER.

If that’s true. You don’t need them. Then say goodbye to consuming for a while. Get it?

I think you’re not realizing how dumping their U.S. treasuries would contradict Yuan de-valuation. Their currency would skyrocket. Bye bye competitive advantage.

You do know you are making shit up, right?
Is Trump really wasting tax payer money to post on this board?

Your awareness is out of date. You need to jump on an airplane and see what’s actually happening. And yes I’ve been to both nations many times and won’t comment because they’re great good and negatives both sides. But the momentum’s or trends are not equal from my visits. Not at all.

You do know ywnbaw dont you?

I'm not saying that the chinese are living below poverty (although the vast majority in the province likely is), but that their daily life products are sold on a razor-thin margin.
if your money isn't backed by gold, it's backed by tangible economy, and if that's the case, China is semi-fucked.

We applied tariffs to the world. The other nations China relies on for exports of non essential goods are not going to be there especially consumer goods where consumer sentiment is the driver, as objective economic reality isn’t relevant. All it takes is for consumers to feel anxious and methinks they do.

It’s kind of the point of the thread I was making. This path we’re are on only leads to deepening levels of destruction. And the final destination is always war historically. And it’s happening at a speed that is eclipsing past analogues due to technology, interdependence and globalised markets. And even if cool heads wake up events will move too fast to prevent a smash. And this will be the final one for centuries I feel.

debt

Who the fuck do they owe it to? I thought everyone was in debt to them?

Crashing the economy is good because there were some some trannies in school sports

This is the IQ level in America now.

I can’t discuss it with you. You’ve a completely unrealistic understanding of China. I do businesses with Americans and Chinese. You’re 40 years out of date man.

I mean agree the inevitable outcome of these kind of trade wars is war, but the Chinese could easily avoid that by negotiating. They just won’t do it. A work where China thrives by making cheap shit Americans don’t want to make is possible but the decision makers don’t want that.

If I were you I’d be more worried about Europe though. They are priming you guys for a total meltdown and maybe open conflict. There’s a real risk of Europe’s sovereign debt market being blown up on purpose here.

Well consider. Who’s running the account deficit with whom? If China exports cheap shit. And by definition in the relationship the us is extortion treasuries (paper IOUs). Is there any cheaper shot than paper. You wipe your ass with it don’t you? Arrogance is a sin bud.

*exporting treasuries*

Those paper IOUs secure China’s position as an attractive manufacturer

but which part of what I'm saying is wrong exactly?

Trump is trying to force capital out of the “casino” (no crying remember)

That was a fake tweet, lmfao.

4. Dump all US treasuries tell burgers fuck off we dont want your federal reserve notes printed on toilet paper anymore especially in international trade
5. US loses reserve currency status burgers realize all their wealth was an illusion
6. 100 years of great depression for US

WUMAO ON SUICIDE WATCH

Ok as someone who spent time throughout dongbei and some of the tier 2/3 cities in the south. I can say there is a shit load of businesses going under.
The real estate market was a zombie system propping up a majority of the internal markets graft based system.
Since the decline of Chinese real estate I have tangibly seen people freaking out as businesses just drop off the face of the earth.

America, is struggling as well. Many Americans are in similar fiscal positions as the Chinese, except they’re hoping this plays out to their benefit.

If trumps plan happens then businesses will come here to manufacture, in autonomous factories mostly.

It seems like trump is pushing for war on his own terms and forcing nations to scramble and reconsider their current policies. Like the tripartite agreement but before the collapse occurs.
In essence I believe he’s ringing the dinner bell so that private equity worldwide can feed on the corpses of the old world.

The majority of us Treasury holdings are American retirees in the form of 401ks, US pension funds, and the social security trust.

4. invade Canada and muttmerica after taking Taiwan and declaring all debt null

China’s playing the long game

They should be more concerned about their birth rates then.
Having just 1 kid per woman is more of a death sentence than anything Trump could do.

They could just invade Taiwan like they've been practicing.

This makes the most sense to me. The collapse was inevitable with the baby boomers and their capital exiting the system over the next 10-20 years combined with China's impending demographic struggles. Trump's administration decided that it would be better to accelerate and attempt to put the US in the drivers seat. This ideally should've been done 20 years ago, and it might be too late to change course at this point, but letting China shore up for another 20 years would've been game over anyways.

Yeah okay, but Trump & team already know this. They actually want China to dump UST's and be done with it. It "only" holds 700 billion worth, which isn't THAT much in the grand scheme of things. The FED alone holds 4.4 trillion. Commercial banks/investors could absorb at least a couple hundred billion, and as China drumps (increading the yields) the Treasuries get more attractive investment-wise.

HOWEVER, a China dump is compounding on a bigger problem, which is that the US runs a 2 trillion deficit, which means an ever increasing amount of Treasury issuance.

QE can attempt to contain both of the above (buying back the China dump, as well as decreasing the yields for new issuance), but will it cause inflation/devaluation of the dollar?

Probably yes, which is not the end of the world, especially if re-shoring production happens (US won't need that many imports, therefore a weak USD won't create crippling inflation!).

This is the overall plan. A huge gamble to say the least, but also a last effort to push back the decline of the American empire.

Finally, a GOOD POST. The American delusion is off the charts on this board.

20 years ago the plan was to have a collapse and every country on earth combine through the UN.
The problem was the eyes of the global elite were bigger than the populations stomach for nation building.

adding 2-3 trillion in debt will destroy them!

huh?

The only thing china gets from the US is debt, that debt only has value if it's being used for global trade. The US is stopping global trade... if the debt has no value then you can replace the US with basically anyone.

If you think that’s a good post you are low IQ. It actually is riddled with logical fallacies ffs.

China ended up having the exact same input problems the USSR had just in different ways and different mechanisms. It’s almost ironic.

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It's just "long game" with window dressing and chest puffing around a GDP projection. That projection is based around Me Chinese Me Play Dumb Me Move Goods Through Vietnam and isn't going to hold up when semantics that violate the spirit of what is going on are attempted. China always depends on countries apologizing away their bullshit and turning a blind eye for some soft power paid to the right people.

This is a rubber meets road situation. China has some plays, but their usual bullshit and currency fuckery isn't going to be an option.

Low IQ moron. Soon China wont have any buyers for their goods. Do you know what a GLOBAL RECESSION is?
China, similair to Germany in the late 00s but on a much larger scale and volatile, will be hit the hardest. China exists only to produce and sell to other countries who consume. Cut that out and China will dry out fast and their fake economy collapses in record time. They went all-in to become the workbench of the world. And that will be their downfall.

It will get devalued but it won't affect you that much because more things will be made in the USA. FX rate mostly matters for imports.

Doing this would be committing economic suicide

Wrong reply

Too bad that’s not true. First of all that debt is what allows China to devalue their currency at all and gain any competitive advantage in manufacturing whatsoever. Second, the idea that’s all they get is a lie. Chinese citizens flee into U.S. equities. They owe more of their wealth to U.S. equity than Chinese equity. They also get massive investment. China is quite literally nothing more than an American parasite. It affixed itself to America’s debt bubble and played a crafty strategy of currency devaluation to steal manufacturing jobs, but the moment they detach from that debt bubble and buying securities then that method to devalue and thus secure manufacturing jobs vanished overnight. Their yuan skyrockets and that’s bye bye Chinese economy.

trump is a retard, fat stinky mutts do not work, they do not make anything. they just use printed goydollars to buy chinese goods. With tariffs these goods will just be sold elsewhere in the world and mutts will suffer. All the dollars will stay in america and hyperinflate the currency. Meanwhile china will just dump US bonds and collapse the mutt empire. in simpler terms, china has the actual welath (goods) and the mutts just have the dollar. In a trade war mutts are left with useless paper and china is left with actual shit they can still sell.

China will survive and adapt like it always has. Autocracy works extremely well in times of crisis, that's the entire selling point hence the Romans appointing temporary dictators

AI is gonna speed it up even faster. The ai race winner can have a 1000 year reich if they want with no competition. China's only option is invading taiwan, which is why trump needs to demand taiwan allow their citizens to own guns and then sell them billions in personal firearms.

Everyone ready for hyperinflation?
Stocks are going to stop tanking and actually start soaring but for really really bad reasons.

hope you have some gold

High IQ take. I cant believe how so many retards here fell fo rthe "CHYNA NUMBAWAHN" shit.
Their economy is a parasitic one and the european retards still cant see it. Ttrump has to put the final nail in the coffin and destroys those uppity monkeys.

China makes stuff we need like cell phones and video games

I can smell your unwashed faggot ass from here.

Can't they just print up a bunch of yuan concurrently?

its all good, Trump's friends with insider info already made their big bucks
America™ is winning so much!

The Yuan is worthless. Everybody knows its just a tool to facilitate dollars into chinese hands. Something that is always manipulated, its entire existence based around manipulation in fact, holds no true value.

But his argument was that if china dumps US treasuries the yuan will skyrocket in value. can't they just print a bunch of yuan to keep it from increasing in value?

because something happened to another country it happens to others

Thats the American logic with China. A cargo cult built up around the fall of the Soviet Union.

our last adversary just imploded so China will too because reasons

No foreign nation should own our bonds. The debt is what kikes have exploited from white Americans. Nuke pisrael and say were not paying shit and bomb them if they cry. Deport every kike and shit colored.

Sure, but you still have all the problems that come with that and it doesn’t make your country any more attractive to do business in.

I think people haven’t quite realized that Trump just took a Louisville Slugger to China’s kneecaps.

Europeans see it. They need to pretend they can align with China before they rug pull the sovereign debt market and make you all suffer.

The other nations China relies on for exports of non essential goods are not going to be there especially consumer goods where consumer sentiment is the driver

Blatant mutt cope

That's right, it's worthless, they don't need it. They go to work because they think they're getting value in something else. The truth is that all money is worthless, what matters is that people go to work to keep the system running and they need an incentive to do this. What if china dumps the dollar and people still keep going to work and producing? Why would they do this? Social credit. It's probably too early for this but china might be the first nation on earth to go full cbdc and manipulate it to keep people working.

yuan will soar and crash at the same time depending on which collapsor you're talking to

If Choyna halts all trade with the usa its civil war for mutts.
Niggers sneakers and iphones not coming will implode the kike cloaca faster than any millitary

Chatgpt says these are the signs of further escalation:

What To Watch For (Signals of Escalation)

China moving aggressively in the South China Sea or around Taiwan

U.S. sanctions on major Chinese banks or chipmakers

China fully banning U.S. companies (e.g., Tesla, Apple)

Large-scale cyberattacks or “accidental” military encounters

New anti-U.S. trade alliances forming (e.g., BRICS with Saudi, Iran)

China does not win a war of attrition, they need to import oil, food and a shit ton of coal and ore.

So why wouldn’t they weaponise this worthless paper at this point?

Kinda like trading one of your only guns for bullets. Most creditors dont want to force their debtors into bankruptcy lol

Trump can require purchases of TBills to close trade deficit gaps and require that countries that remain at an imbalance to purchase $X amount to prevent tariffs. One way or the other rates have to come down before Q4 2025, or the commercial and private real estate markets are going to implode.

The country that actually makes stuff holds all the cards

Does Wal-Mart hold all of the cards over you? If so then why do things go on sale? Why doesnt Wal-Mart jack their prices up 200% ? They hold all of the cards right?

nigger

adding 2-3 trillion in debt will destroy them!

Re-financing current debt to lower rates, and allowing the 5yr Commercial loans from 2020 due for refi to rollover

Use ur brain nigger

Yeah, but they have millions and millions of chinks around the world. 5.5M in the US, millions in your country and canada. Think about what just 1% of them could do in damage to infrastructure.

I while ago I watched a documentary on American cattle ranchers being hired by Russians to teach them all their methods.
They were paid big bucks, and Russia did it to be self sovereign.

Chinks are probably in charge of a lot of our projects and infrastructure

The last 20 years USA was racist against white people and put foreigners in charge of everything.

China controls every aspect of their economy and can force themselves to adapt, especially with less regulation. The US is "free market" and will get bodied because of all it's regulation, slow growth, and refusal to adapt.

Time to learn cantonese

Fuck off ching chong.

no incentive not to blow Taiwan up
trump already did maximum tariff
sorry but there's not going to be AI whatever in your lifetime

China doesn't grow their own food or make their own energy. This guy exaggerates but he's on the right track

youtube.com/watch?v=ED_yPDdqG5Y&t=86s

China imports food and energy; they can't
Russia is self sufficient in energy and food production as far as I know

kek at this chink using grok to write his shit

This is done before a war, a big one.

As has been pointed out here this week, Trump is trying to force capital out of the “casino” (no crying remember) into treasuries (us debt).

Can any of the retards spamming this "here's this one weird trick they don't want you to know about" tier shit explain why US treasury bonds would be worth anything if its been established the US government can just rugpull you out of nowhere

What else are entities going to put money into when stocks are crashing? If everyone rushes to gold it will be hard to obtain and likely volatile once the rush stops, it's also not as liquid as bonds.

Peter Zeihan

LMAO that guy is a glownigger faggot retard propagandist. A war with China would be very bad for them because they would get blockaded and we would destroy all of their major dams and it would destroy their economy and food supply yes. However Chinks are tenacious roach like little motherfuckers, and their government is the type of motherfuckers that will weld you shut in your apartment, they dont give a fuck.

So we arent really dealing with rational actors here, War with China would be no easy task; the United States has a horrible habit of underestimating Asians sheer ability to go cockroach mode.

China doesn't even have 1T in US treasuries at this point

wwiii about to begin and anon is worried about fake jew casino digits

China has been offloading treasuries and treasuries aren't consumer debt either

for you

I feel responsible for praising kek in 2015 so many damb times. I honestly think kek is in trump and chaos reins.

What you niggers don't understand is that China is not in a position to do anything other than struggle as we fuck her.

They are a hivemind of drones. They CAN outlast America in a war of attrition when millions of dissidents start destroying the fabric of society in America due to shortages in resources

the entire US-China deficit was 1.5% of chinese GDP, and that's with transport, marketing, margins, all in.
in reality this was ALL the orange nigger could do, shave 0.5% from China's growth.

Imagine the country of entitled niggers trying to outcompete a drone hive of billions of bugs

What else are entities going to put money into when stocks are crashing?

They will sit it out. Trump has to face democratic elections, Xi does not.
You picked a battle you are fucking guaranteed to lose, and everyone is calling you on your shitty bluff.

I'm not learned enough but I know there's something called the "eurodollar system" and Europe can't just abandon dealing with the dollar without a huge headache

Shadilay

But the US can play that game too

and what will the ameriniggers eat.
and on what exports, lmao.

are the ameriniggers ready to work 12h shifts for a dollar worth half assuming they could ever build factories again.

Ching Chong Pying Pyong has gone. Satellite imagery reveals it’s vanished, they’ve simply packed up and slipped away. It’s over.

the US does nothing for the world

Imagine how surprised and excited Russia and China will be to start providing protection to EU nations!

Put isreal in charge of destabilizing the gubberment again. Mk-ultra/ femonvirus.

Did you know that 90% of China is a fucking wasteland? Same as Russia.

They are powerful but don't kid yourself.

Man i love white women they are so pretty.

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We were based korea all along. Or maybe based korea where actually the anons we've met along the way.

Oh they left a note. It says

triangle, housey shape, stick man, 3 swishes, housey shape, tasty three legged cat.

or do nothing and win once the bingbingwahoo crowd kills trump

If they were able to feed themselves that might work

Bro America, which is 50% niggers and spics who live on welfare, will outlast China, with its 97% hard working Han Chinese population, in a war of attrition

retards are so buttblasted by china they're willing to cause a great depression to hurt a country thats not even hostile to them

If it's so easy to coup Xi with a recession tariffs and sanctions we should also try this on north korea

4.th option
Do nothing
Wim

That's the thing, we don't need to. China has no military worth anything outside her borders. A small flotilla in the Indian would cripple China leaving the lights out. China does not control her energy sources and is incapable of obtaining it on her own. China has always been the world's bitch.

Why would they sit in cash when treasuries are fairly liquid and give you a return? What you're saying makes 0 sense

the entire world sanctions NK

do you not see how that's different from the current situation? the US accounts for like 14% of Chinese exports, it'll hurt them if they stopped trading but there's still the rest of the world to trade with and everywhere apart from the US are trying to foster free trade with each other now.

retards are so buttblasted by china they're willing to cause a great depression to hurt a country thats not even hostile to them

"Economic warfare aint even hostility dood shiiiieeeeeeeet, Chyna dindu nuffin"

It doesn’t work like that. China’s economic prosperity is predicated on a cheap Yuan that allows them to be cheaper labor and siphon manufacturing work away from Western countries. Tariffs immediately take that away and so China basically only has 3 options to ameliorate that:
1) Negotiate with Trump
2) Go tit for tat on tariffs and hope you win by replacing exports to the U.S. with exports to other countries, which you probably won’t
3) Lash out and invade someone and use military spending to save your economy for a time
That’s it. Those are their only options because they’re rapidly losing their leverage.

What makes you think the us would give free passage to Chinese ships?

If China can kill 150 million of its own people with ease I don’t see how they won’t be able to weather this.

The Chinese government is willing and fully capable of taking measures that no western countries would ever stoop to so they could survive.

When you’re playing the game of hegemony. All nations are considered hostile by default. Even allies. This is why empire saps nations and all empire fall eventually. It’s a fools errand.

Yeah man I'm sure all the spying, hacking and psyops shit they pull is because they just want to remain neutral "free trade" partners

You just don’t understand Anon Babble economics lmao
I agree with you completely btw

Nations that agree to your financial system that implies basically patronage are more like what we might call vassals lmao.

And that’s going to be result of this. Many countries are basically going to renegotiate a financial arrangement with the United States where they pledge to peg their currency to US currency so the dollar can drop while remaining a reserve. Some won’t go for it and that’s going to risk military and political confrontation.

The problem with that idea is the world has to get through a depression first. You're not cutting the US out of trade without serious deflation and there isn't the will to replace the dollar in international trade that benefits all parties enough in a way they can trust

Silence moldy japan.

financial analysts will discuss this Anon Babble screenshot that they saw posted on twitter in the next couple of days and will agree with it

funny how that goes

Russia's inflation is getting higher and higher and the war economy is the only thing keeping the country together. They may not actually want to end being at war at this point.

How well is that going to work when those people don't want to die and they aren't retarded peasants with pitchforks but relatively educated industrial workers with access to all kinds of machinery and technology. They would be able to make small arms, explosives, chemicals, all kinds of delivery systems. A civil war in China right now would be the most insane civil war ever

Holy kino

Worse, they need imported food and the yuan is dropping. It doesn’t matter if the food is from the US or not, their cost for imported food will go up.

it’s not in tariffs as China knows it runs a trade surplus and this isn’t its realm of leverage

I agree and I believe this is why China should have have retaliated with export tariffs instead of import tariffs.

Honestly, the people need to rise up and depose the communists. Fuck Ukraine, let's arm up the Chinese and let them get to work freeing themselves.

Right, so all the risk capital goes into US treasuries. Where are the trillions of dollars for building new plant and infrastructure coming from exactly?
Even on the face of it, it makes absolutely no sense at all.

they need us because they have to give us cheap shit

Do you hear yourself?

But China holds huge amounts of these treasuries he’s trying to refloat.

China dumped half of their US debt already anon. Their US treasury holdings peaked around 2013 at $1.3T in US debt. Today that is down to about $770B.
reuters.com/markets/us/who-owns-us-debt-2025-02-10/
This hasn't made a dent in the strength of the US dollar at all. In fact, the dollar has gotten stronger against all asian currencies for a solid 20+ years. As much as Americans like to cry and complain about inflation and the Federal reserve "printing money," the fact is the other nations around the world do this to a MUCH greater extent. In a sense, the US was exporting inflation, because the money printing became an arms race among fiat countries. If the US printed 2x the money, then other countries would print 4-6x the money just to game it.
As you can see from this picrel, the Chinese have gotten themselves into a bit of a pickle, because they have been printing money like wild even though their currency is pegged to the dollar. Kinda like how the US was printing greenbacks like wild while its currency was pegged to gold. If the average Chang decided to demand an exchange, the Chinese government doesn't have the dollars to cover that just like the US didn't have the gold.
The Chinese are in a full scale deflationary collapse for the past couple of years now. The contagion is spreading. The tariffs are just another attempt to stop that spread from coming to the US.
It won't work.
Deflation is coming.

They're bugs, literally not capable of independent thought when cut off from the hive mind.

Chingchong ling lang

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China is always winning and America losing

its propaganda Picture.

Which will push its debt off the chart

Does that even matter anymore?

riddled with logical fallacies

Go on

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Chinks hold like 10%. Literally nothing burger as long as other countries stay in with the US. Selling their holding rebalances the capital account into current account

You cannot use both

The economy that produces stuff is parasitic, not the economy dominated by finance capital and service sector rentiers.

4. Do nothing.

I have 160 ounces of silver, will I make it?

China is a cuck nation. They won't do shit.

This is fucking cringe, not going to lie

Someone had told Trump "no crying in the swamp" 4 years ago when election got stolen, he wouldn't have stood for it

So we're pretending that Chinese GDP isn't fake now?

very unlikely that china or russians would take arms against their leaders for a foreign power

Kek

This is all so retarded, Americans are going to be pissed at all the skyrocketing prices and vote for someone else in 4 years. China doesn't even have to wait that long

They don’t make anything we need. We grow our own food, we distill our own water, we build our own houses. We can take a few months off of buying luxury electronics while this plays out and learn to support American made products.

each ounce will buy you 20 litres of petrol
also, 900 seconds

Why do Jewish women prefer big Palestinian cock?

Samefag nigger shill. I'm spicing and hiding lol