Japan will be the First Trading Partner

...Annex...Japan...?

That a bit unfair we literally give everything to America heck our own social security is all Merican there is nothing left for us to give to trade for a better deal.

Though if it all works out Australia will probably do better then everyone else if things work out.

Japan gets annexed and America adopts the Emperor as head of state (essentially ceremonial), Trump becomes Shogun of the United States of America (basically does everything the President did, but hereditary, with Barron Trump named as his heir).

This is the gayest lamest talking point you keep making for literally everything and I will just assume its fake and gay.

The President's vision for the new Golden Age of Global Trade

we SHOULD be allies with North Korea

many of their factories are in america
they do more work to employee americans than a lot of american companies
japan is one of our greatest allies and he's putting them in the same sentence as china

Japan will be the first to secure a flagship trade deal with the Trump admin.

I certainly hope so, or Mazda is fucked.

Why does everybody in this administration talk like a kid pretending to be king?

good
i sell a lot of overpriced japanese anime shit at conventions to trannies and it makes a lot of money
they waste money like theres no tomorrow (theres a 41% chance there isnt for them)

They have treated the U.S very poorly on trade.

How exactly have they done this?

they don't take our cars

have you ever thought about adapting to your market?

capcom, sega, sony, and square enix basically gutted their company trying to put americans in charge of their companies

japan makes better product

WTF THIS RUINING AMERICAN INDUSTRY!

TRUMP DRIVER

i mean sony literally moved SIE to america
how the fuck is japan screwing us again?

friendship ENDED with europe now japan/korea/australia are my best friends

it's for the best

unfair

Sucks, but it's the way it is. There are seldom any empires that prioritise their vassal states over themselves.

japan has been US personal lapdog that will lick their master anytime they want since they lost WW2. I don't know what's so special about this news.

MAGA is communist now apparently

We get space Mechas thanks to Trump

based?

Nice shitpost, but in all seriousness, that would be a great disaster for us, because it would be the politisation of our Imperial family.
That small group of retards -Japanese Imperialists- trying to make Emperor Showa the king of Asia, nearly led to his excecution.

True, unfortunately.

There are consequences to trying to waging war on a superpower and losing.
You got off easy

In another timeline, we never dropped the bombs and decided not to invade or be involved in your post-war affairs, and you got steamrolled by the Soviet Union and came under their umbrella
Doubt you would have preferred that

they don't take our cars

So this entire thing is because people are not buying subpar American goods?

Well of course we are in the same sentence as China, because we are Yellow also.

Sounds based

Trump really hates Japanese Prime Minister Ishiba and will keep punishing Japan until Ishiba is forced to resign for a more Trump friendly leader

The US government wants to screw us but they can't say that part openly, it gets in the way of people's sense of fairness. Just like the "reciprocal" tariffs.

forgor picrel

No it's because Americans aren't buying sub par American goods. So they have to force them.

That seems very unlikely to happen
Ishiba's from the LDP, same party as Abe, which has a long history of cucking to America. But they're already losing popularity from corruption scandals and the opposition is much more independent-minded.

Japan must take American cars! They won’t take the car if it gets dented dropping a bowling ball on it from 20 feet.

Hey at least we are better than literal subhumans

Not a very convincing argument

As for waging war, you Americans started by demanding us to withdraw from Manchuria, despite our tremendous investment.
Demanding us to withdraw from China proper is understandable, and it is our and the Chinese's fault for not reaching an agreement in the late 30's. But that wasn't the American demand.
Besides, even if we were to have conceeded, you Americans would have attacked us anyways, similar to Vietnam or Iraq.

Ishiba is very pro-China though. I'm surprised that the Anericans haven't ousted him already

No it means Japan is going to agree to be an American vassal by paying away some of its economy and industrial output in exchange for military protection.

YOU MUST BUY THE WORSE PRODUCT!

Japan will remember its part of Asia at some point, China just has to remind them that they’ve been acting all cucked and feminized for 100 years since the Americans dropped a big bomb on them.

Sounds like you shouldn't have invaded Manchuria then

cucks. imagine bowing down like that for a dying country. kek.

Countries that should and probably will fold immediately

Japan

India

South Korea

Taiwan

Philippines

Basically all of China’s neighbors and there’s 1 very big reason for that

Stop saying us you fucking English teaching tourist.

Or they’ll get driven into china’s arms.

But Japan has no tariffs on American cars Trump-san

No, but a lot of their businesses depend on being able to export shit either to or passing through America. Look at that shit Nintendo's dealing with, they were supposed to begin pre-orders for their new video game console in about 3 hours but they've delayed it indefinitely because of tariffs (official posts and PR statements from Nintendo even say "because of tariffs").

Unfortunately the cold hard realities of politics and economics doesn’t care about the delusional ethnic theories of Anon Babbletards. “Asian” is a category they has meaning only to white Westerners. Japanese don’t even see themselves as Asian. They see themselves as Japanese. They have no incentives in common with or affinities for the rest of Asia.

No one wants American cars. You are uncultured rednecks.

Zero chance

People seem to have not caught on yet that this is essentially a military play and industrial manufacturing at large is secondary

ishiba is already "ousted" eversince he made it as PM since his party can't even get majority in diet

I think Trump planned this ever since the deep state killed his buddy Shinzo Abe.

MAGA is so fucking retarded ahahahahahaha

the better paying English schools are private and we want parents to be able to afford them
if Japan's economy gets fucked over, gaijin aren't immune to the damage

Thanks for your opinion, Muhammad

Its gay and retarded that I have to wait 20 years to import a car from Japan. You guys make good vehicles, but we need an industry.

On the upside, people are still gonna buy your cars even at an inflated price due to trust in the brand alone. It'll take a decade or two for Toyota's or Honda's market to decrease

Cultists will never hear you

lol that’s not true at all.

Countries from all over the world are talking to us

And they weren't prior to this retardation? lol

Retard if anybody nukes anyone whoever did it would be declared international pariahs if there is a world left lol

trump wants to take credit for opening American trade to the world

Ok I mean cling to your retarded weeb fantasies then

He's more than fashionably late to the party for that.

Kewl!

dont care. Nintendo still gonna jew. they will increase prices anyways and blame tariffs and nintendo faggots will still buy it.

He is right tho. American cars are trash.

Soon

I was going to say this the moment I read OP's picrel.

lol japan used to use chinese. korea also. imagine thinking oriental people are not oriental

Destroy anime island and the whole world's youth turns against you

will be

Doesn't say that. And given that Trump rejected Vietnam's offer of a zero tariff deal because he wants them, and Europe to pay reparations to the US then Japan aren't likely to get treated any better either.

American cars known for being bad and this was true even 20 years ago.

lol japan used to use chinese

Remind me when that was exactly?

Trump said it in a quite eloquent way in the 90's I believe:
"Japan doesn't have tariff's on US but they make it so difficult to sell there they effectively do."

You know this, I know this, everyone and their mothers' knows this. You are isolationist and that's ok, the world sucks, but if you are living on the tit of america, stop trying to pull-out Don's hair with your teeth.
But hey, you ain't biting the tit, so that's ok, right?

We're going to start dumping goods on the whole world that are both worse quality and more expensive than the competition. At least Chinese crap was cheap LOL. Get fucked!

Japs are such cucks. Like spineless dogs lol. Any country that has to reach out to trump is cucked.

..and America refuses to make small ones. Big corporations hate the fuck out of the working class.

Valid argument in 1931, not so valid in 1941.
Are you going to give the land back to the Native Americans? We all know that's not happening anytime soon

idk, check their news. even in the 90’s mainstream korea was using chinese and japanese also. you didnt know?
even modern korean thrillers show their small towns with chinese in their storefronts. lmao americans are so ignorant

not going to work out as trump violates their bottomline

you are indian

Just do it! Make your dream come true.

As soon as the emperor accepted to lose his divine status, he no longer was the emperor. The physical line has continued, but the divinity needs to be restored for the spiritual line to flow again. Mishima explained that very well.

Are you going to give the land back to the Native Americans?

lmao no they're all dead or drinking themselves to death on reservations covered in garbage
sucks to suck

Hey Chinaman, how about you bravely fight the Americans without lying? Haplogroup D is direct evidence that we are not the same race.

Based. Japan and the US are the world's truest greatest ally. Japan is like the kid we beat up in our youth (the nuke) but then he grew up to be cool so we felt sorry and became his best friend.

How do I become a Japanese citizen? How do I get a Japanese green card?

Mishima explained that very well.

Mishima seems like he would get bullied by real samurai

Its during a period where overseas parts manufacturing was done by poor chinks. Probably by design too

?
Both Japanese and Koreans do it.

the monies got disbanded

you’re probably right

moonies*

Not saying we are. Your newspapers still used chinese in the 90s. what is your problem?

Yeah probably. But the image to this day is still the same.

True, but it's still important to keep the lineage as a symbolic head of state, even if it's symbolic value has diminished.
Just because Greeks and Egyptians are no longer pagan, doesn't mean that the pyramids nor the parthenon should be allowed to be destroyed

American and Canadian manufacturing was top of the line before exporting labor overseas. China never built commercial vehicles ever in their history. It really only took 40 years for them to catch up.

Now we will see how long it's gonna take for the US to do the same. But like most things that were made here before the 70s you typically bought one TV, car, couch, and it lasted the rest of your life.

You can somewhat say this consumerist economy has been fake and gay all along

the USA ended you friendships with EVERYONE .
except Israel and Russia

source - i made it up

Oh, sorry I thought you meant "Chinese" as in race, not language.
Yeah we use Chinese characters

Trump's admin lliterally nixed a 0-for-0 trade deal with Vietnam. If he wanted to negotiate free trade agreements, he would have been doing so instead of torpedoing them constantly. It's clear he doesn't want free trade agreements. His actual expectation is for these countries to write the US treasury a check (???) or I guess just buy American stuff with their public sectors. It doesn't make any sense at all, the only way it does is if his goal is to personally extort foreign nations for his direct benefit or to personally select winners and losers in the private sector by letting them slide on tariffs in exchange for loyalty. Even this might be assuming malice where stupidity is the clear explanation. Either way, there is no negotiation and there is no plan. At best, enough people will beg Trump to stop and only after immeasurable damage will he back down and claim victory because like Vietnam increased it's condom quota with the US or something like that. This will come after TOTAL ECONOMY DEATH. Buckle in, you are on tariff man's wild ride.

sent from my iphone manufactured by some 44 year old gook woman in a huge factory

As they should. It's time we actually used our military, control of trade routs, and our economic and geopolitical power for our own enrichment. The world owes us.

correct. so why do you keep screaming to nobody like a mental patient?

Nobody fucking cares. We want to renegotiate a deal. What cards does literally any country hold that can force the US to accept deals that no longer work?

k nvm. kek look at this guy now—>

because we're not letting them rip us off anymore and asking for fair trade, and protecting our own interests the same way every other country does?

if that's such a problem they weren't very good friends to start with
and Israel got hit with tariffs too

yep, no deal is possible as the demands are not possible to force with tariffs

what is going on is the US essentially walking away from the WTO

You fucking wish mohamad. Maybe you'll understand this one better:
Suce ma bite tabarnak, crisse de mangeux de marde Allemand. Vous êtes une nation de loppette.

you got the world reserve currency, you can not have a balanced trade that is not possible
structurally

For citizenship, you need to learn the language, give up your old citizenship, live here consecutively for five years without any legal trouble, and fill out a bunch of paperwork.
For permanent residency it's one, three, or ten years, depending on your visa and if you're married to a citizen.

And jeets are doing all that?

not my problem
the tariffs exist, adjust accordingly

namaste my desi friend

yes, the world will have to band together to break the petro dollar as it is what you wish for

we're not letting them rip us off anymore and asking for fair trade

do Americans REALLY believe this?
it is propaganda ffs

wake the fuck up lol
do you HONESTLY believe everyone has been taking advantage of poor little USA all these years and beloved leader Donald Trump has come along to restore justice?

YOU.

CANNOT.

BE.

THIS.

GULLIBLE.

every other country in the world enjoys buying cheap plastic abroad but otherwise supports all the domestic industries

Amerimutts cant even sell their domestic heavily subsidized and regularly bailed out consumer products to American markets

we expect foreigners to take them

Our exports are energy, “dollars”, and financial services. Oh i guess we also sell social media data to china.

good luck with that little buddy

do you HONESTLY believe everyone has been taking advantage

They have

There aren't that many Indians in Japan, and the long-term residents are way outnumbered by the tourists

It's not even that the demands are not possible to force with tariffs. It is literally that the demands just aren't possible full stop. Vietnam offered zero tariffs for zero tariffs and was told that won't work, they need to have no trade deficit. In order for Vietnam to reduce their trade deficit to zero, they can't rely on their literally sub 600 USD a month workforce to just buy American products. So presumably they would have to I guess bankrupt their own government by trying to buy it via the public sector. That's... I don't even think this is possible, it would trigger a blatant death spiral. The other option is to write checks to the US treasury (???). Which doesn't really make sense unless you assume the admin is so incredibly stupid that they think Vietnam can write a cashier's check which will be considered part of American tax revenues or so malicious that they want to throw it into some weird slush fund which will obviously be unsupervised, corrupt, and at Trump's personal discretion. An obvious explanation is that Trump just likes tariffs and just needs an excuse for implementing them, reminder he only has the power to declare tariffs unilaterally because Congress gave him emergency powers and engaged in extreme pilpul by saying that the entire rest of the year is technically one day in Congress to make sure there was no deadline on this national emergency (not making this up).

Sorry bud, I dunno what that means, I don`t speak brown.

there is no other choice as in that is what you want when you say you want balanced trade with the world it means the petro dollar must end

sure sure

We'll see how that turns out

its math, if you want to have a balanced trade with the world you can not have the dollar be the reserve currency it is not possible

america is so over. laughing stock on world stage.

Yeah you keep saying that
We'll see

Hadaka Matsuri naked shotas

Its gay and retarded that I have to wait 20 years to import a car from Japan.

The USA made that law dumbass

your main export is dollar denominated debt not good or services

We are one of the richest and most advanced economies in the world. Maoists legit bitch about the very fact that we do import stuff, shunting all the shit labor to the "third world proletariat" while we get cushy office jobs and make a hundred times as much with substantially better lifestyles. A gas station attendant at Bucee's makes more goddamn money than engineers in Europe. Any problems we have in the US are not the result of foreign trade but government incompetence. Failure to reform healthcare, invest in Rust Belt communities, or provide subsidies for critical industries. Even when discussing national defense, we engage in extreme protectionism over our shipbuilding industry. It does not work. It fails. Clearly the strategy should have been to just dump subsidies into it while inviting foreign investment that would bring superior techniques to make the whole industry competitive on a world stage instead of trying to protectionist our way into having worse ships for higher prices. We could have had ten thousand times folded superior NIPPON STEEL in the US if protectionist retards didn't blow it up.

Japan doesn't tariff the US. They're explicitly getting a worse deal than what they had before.

Just wait for Xinnie the Poo to call Trump's retarded bluff, because revenue tanked, refinancing denbts just got more expensive, etc. Trump is likely to be impeached in May when the refinancing comes around if he doesn't change course.

It's not like 2007 where it's hard to point fingers. It's the fault of 4 people. Trump, Lutnick, Navarro, and Bessent who are publicly wrong.

Trump will make switch 2 cost 300 dollars in America to trick all the white men that still aren't on board

The damage is immeasurable. The only hope is that we get a 1950's style consensus on free trade where anyone that disagrees gets demolished. I don't think we willl never recover, but we might not recover within this lifetime if drastic actions are not taken. The US is always going to be a powerful economy and it is always destined to be a "Great Power", it's like China, Germany, or Russia. Simply too big to fail completely, but this makes us overconfident. Just because we are destined to be a "Great Power" doesn't mean we are immune to experiencing a century of humiliation and our own hubris will only make shit worse as we willfully disconnect ourselves from reality.

youtube.com/watch?v=BIUQo1y74Fw

you are chinese

Under Trump, every white man will get a Switch 2 and an anime tradwife complements of the Japanese government.

They have

gosh really? why did all those other US PResidents put up with it?
why didn't they do something?

do you think it might be possible that Trump convinced you this was the case so he could convince you he's doing what needs to be done?
Meanwhile, he throws the markets into chaos and the very rich bet much, much richer.

Which scenario sounds more likely to you?

Nope, I'm just pointing out the obvious. We have a powerful economy that we willingly pissed away because we thought we could win a trade war with the rest of the planet. Now we are crippling our position on the world stage purely out of hubris.

Don't all these different flavors of Chang's, Nips, Slopes, Gooks, etc all fucking hate each other?

maybe we're being trolled
but if not, it's fucking depressing thinking this is where the burgerbros' landed

China is claiming that Japan, SK, and China are making a joint agreement on the tariff shit. SK says this is an exaggeration. Japan has said nothing, likely because they still hold out hope that Trump isn't crazy and will back down.

Trump has disturbed the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" rule, and made the USA everyone's enemy.
Everyone but Israel and Russia.

He's (unintentionally) forcing all sorts of new relationships to be born.
Can't see how this is advantageous for the US.

Imagine dreaming about buying a fucking trash Toyota Hilux.

Pretty based. It is about time that we get some balance here. Trump is going to get them to drop barriers to the importation of nip women.

Now let's see Japan's rice policies.

vietnam buys american good, from whatever non-existent industrial base it came from

everyone is too fucking poor to buy it

attempt to resell american good to someone else to make up for the money lost on making the trade deficit on par

or write blank checks to US treasury and build factories in USA

This tarrifs shit is like a shake down and a pyramid scheme at the same time.

America is speed running a major decline. It wont be like Great Britain which just lost its status. There is no coming back. Whether it disappears or declines or collapses, the american empire is over based what has happened with 2000 plus years history.

They don't import American cars because nobody wants them

Best case scenario is something similar to what happened to Great Britain but worse. We are actually witnessing the demise of the american empire. It is cool.

Why would the Japanese buy American cars. He is asking the Japanese to do what we did. Dismantle your manufacturing industry and buying your domestic cars, then you can import our paper mache tier GMC/Ford trash for higher prices that don't last as long.

Americans are detached from reality. They can't think from any sort of real first principles geopolitically because they've been raised on American exceptionalism, which is just North Korea tier brainwashing rebranded for Amerifats.

their women would just get cuter.

No, Great Britain's problem was that it's power is directly tied to European domination. The moment hegemony fell out of Europe's hands, Britain couldn't really force things on the entire planet with just their little island. The US is massive. It isn't powerful because of a unique geopolitical circumstance. It's powerful because it is YUGE with no strong neighbors. Our recovery is assured unless we literally balkanize, which I doubt will happen.

So the Japanese government buys American cars and then sinks them in the sea?

What deal you retarded fuck?
Europe already offered zero tariffs on both side
you fuckign stupid fuck

Yes, but now they hate you and this unites them

I would purchase Toyota mirai

He wants the trade deficit to be paid back. He is the gib me dat president.

your mistake for taking the first deal
now he wants more

Our recovery is assured

The only way for the US to become a superpower again would be to win a WW3 against China/Russia/Iran, and that is not happening. Even if that happened you'd end up with control of the world again, and you'd be a neo-brazil nigger shithole like we already really are, just with a think coat of paint hiding it.

I know you're completely bought into muh American exceptionalism but there really is no nice way to express just how over it is.

So what? Japanese also use English loan words. Does that mean they consider themselves English? No. The Canadian is wrong either way.

What cards does literally any country hold that can force the US to accept deals that no longer work?

The cards of the US pissing off and mishandling literally every single one of its trading partners. Unity.

there is nothing more than zero tariffs, how could there be?
Trump is just saying stupid shit and sucking his own dick
his advisor is the retard Peter Navarro
you cant make deals with people that belong in a lunatic asylum

Yeah. I think it’s a hard long term sell though, not only to Japan but moreso to its enemies. You have to wonder if you’re China, what is the appeal of this arrangement? The hard truth that nobody wants to talk about yet is future success is probably going to look a lot like old world colonialism. We’re maybe a few decades away from owning up to that reality publicly. If this tariff play doesn’t pay off big and fold in everyone, that’s really the only other alternative.

The world owes us.

This is why this country will be written about as the great satan in the history books. The audacity of you fucking retards.

No you detached coastal faggots get office jobs while middle Americans in Ohio get to work at Dollar Tree and die slow deaths or despair. Kys.

We are one of the richest and most advanced economies in the world

Translation: muh gdp is really (artificially) high!

There is not a single large city in this country that is nice or pleasant for normal people to live in. This is the worst developed country on earth.

Getting pissed isn't a trade tactic. You have to negotiate if your partner wants to negotiate and there were no terms against it.

One, staying off the world stage is precisely how we managed to rise to power in the first place. Not that I support the total retraction from geopolitics under Trump, but if we recede to the extent at which recovery is beyond the pale, we won't have to interact much outside the world. We'll simply buy and sell on the margins like we used to. Two, I don't believe in that America operates outside the bounds of reality. America's benefits are fully within the bounds of reality. Huge nation, resource rich, no strong allies, not much of a reason to even fuck around in the region. We aren't powerful as the result of a unique geopolitical paradigm, we are powerful because we have insurmountable advantages. Countries like Portugal and Britain were exceptional, they punched way beyond their weight due to exceptional circumstances, the US on the other hand merely needs a competent bureaucrat steering the ship in order to climb up to Great Power status.

Yes it is retarded and I think it'll get worse. The overall thrust of reducing the trade deficit and, more importantly, reindustrializing make sense. But there are much better ways to do that in a targeted way. Triggering a giant trade war is absurd. The only good news is that the US don't depend too much on trade.

You and Russia sent oil below $60. The whining fracking industry will be Trump's next fire to put out.

No you have to slap everyone with blanket tariffs because exporters can just avoid your tariffs by exporting to non-tariffed countries as an intermediate to avoid your tariffs. It’s only only unavoidable if all parties are tariffed according to their trade imbalance which is why his reciprocal tariff based on trade defecit is genius.

What don't you understand? They want us to keep sending them stuff, but not get paid for it.

One, staying off the world stage is precisely how we managed to rise to power in the first place.

Holy shit. How are newfags so fucking retarded. We only became a superpower because of the world wars and everybody being completely in ruins after except for us. It blows my mind that someone can actually be this fucking retarded. I'm unironically glad this country will be irrelevant within 5-10 years outside of the Americas.

All non-Christians shall perish.

Only Christians will have eternal life.

Jesus Christ is King.

The audacity of you fucking retards.

Go invade Vietnam again boomer. You had power yet pissed it away.

that also means there will be no deals, because any exceptions would break that logic you just outlined
so talking with Trump is absolutely pointless
its either one or the other
the man just likes to suck his own dick and be the center of attention

he's a uniter, not a divider, I fuckin love it!

pay up, mapleniggers

But what's Scotty gonna get in return? Unlimited access to underage Japanese boys? This is the important question.

Your mistake is thinking the only deals to be made are deals on net zero reciprocal tariffs but that’s wrong. That’s exactly why they’ve emphasized so much that they not only about tariffs but non-tariff trade barriers. They want countries to negotiate not just their tariffs but their currencies.

US to become a superpower again

US is the only superpower. Iran is losing proxy wars. Russia can't get 50km. China is afraid to invade Taiwan. No one else is even close. We can field more tanks in Russia than Russia can field Russian tanks in Russia.

Sometimes I wonder if ironically our biggest threat is Europe

Russia can't get 50km

he think Russia is losing

I'm done with this shithole board. Normalnigger have shit it up beyond repair.

You severely underestimate how much you can make relative to the rest of the World even in bumfuck Ohio. And even then, the solution to helping bumfuck Ohio isn't to tariff everything, weaken the economy dramatically, and produce worse goods which cost more. Subsidizing domestic industry and enticing foreign investment would allow us to build an actually internationally competitive manufacturing industry. This alongside beefing up education investment and the social safety net would be arguably more beneficial than precise targeted tariffs and 100% guaranteed more beneficial than triggering a recession with blanket tariffs.
The reason we have a trade deficit is because our economy is more productive and our workers are richer and thus the country has the means to consume foreign goods. You can call it fake, but the very complaint that we have trade deficits is the evidence that American consumers are wealthier than their counterparts. Americans do not understand how good they have it.
We joined WW1 at the very end and got dragged into WW2 in the middle of it. In both wars we plied our trade selling to the allies. Everybody else bombing each other into ruins while we sat on the sidelines for most of the wars is precisely what I meant by "staying off the world stage". And entering WW3 would be guaranteed bad for any side involved because nuclear weapons exist. The winner of WW3 will be whoever didn't join it.

I mean you're jewish so yeah

If we don't get a pic of Trump holding a Switch 2 during this presidency I will be extremely disappointed.

Refusing to negotiate is also not a trade tactic -- see Vietnam.
Misrepresenting trade issues and then chomping out when your partners respond rationally is also not a trade tactic.
Trying to pick a fight with literally the entire world is also not a trade tactic.
The US is being run by chimps.

This is a low IQ it’s not even worth my time

So is this one

Our countries were drooling to get into both wars and were failing miserably until they blockade Japan and forced them to attack us. It was basically 9/11 but with actual opposition instead of our own kike government doing it. We ruined the world by getting involved with ww2. You're historically illiterate and you should kys. Americans are the biggest retards on this shithole planet.

What do you guys not get about this? They want Vietnam to negotiate, but they want to negotiate EVERYTHING, all trade barriers, not just tariffs.

341 yen per kilogram tariff on imported rice, except when the government imports it in which case there is no tariff.
about a USA dollar per USA pound at the current exchange rate.
anything else?

Americans are literally retarded and not worth engaging with. Just pray your government realizes this before it's too late.

where are you going to get hydrogen? Brazilians can barely afford oxygen

hey japan, we want a better deal

we dont have tariffs, just make quality cars

flips table

hey EU, we want a better deal

k, 0:0

flips table

schizophrenia

Americans are literally retarded and not worth engaging with.

Then go home or turn off the VPN you dumb nigger lol

Why negotiate with the US? they've proven themselves to be unreliable trading partners and liars. They blew up their own trade deal with Can and Mex that Trump negotiated in his first term. They're capricious and retarded. It's like trying to live with a histrionic woman

It's hardly a nafo troon position to notice the jewcraine war has been a counterforce evaluation by US glowniggers against eastern block equipment and shown literally every weapon system the Russians, Chinese, and their proxy nations have or field are complete shit.

And all the egg is on our face for thinking anything but to begin with. The army convinced itself it needed a new 15lb battle rifle with Sig on the side because they thought vatniks and chinks actually has body armor. S300 can't intercept shit, ground to air doctrine entirely worthless. Kikes even blew up s400s with the f35 so there goes that cope. Russia went into Ukraine not having ef jamming of consumer level electronics and proceeded to get into a 5 year trench war fought with alibaba drones.

Ukraine can't "win" outside of agreeing to territorial concession but Russia exposed the operational capacity of every piece of equipment they had to only cement black sea access to the Mediterranean for a navy they don't have.

Kek like what, the ports not being close enough to the USA to allow US bulk corn to take over donestic food production? Maybe US made shoes not being cheap enough to be bought in Vietnam?

why can't americans just accept that their cars suck, also they are totally unfit for the japanese market. wtf is a japanese going to do with a stupid oversized ford pickup truck? it costs like 10 times the price of a kei truck and is way less practical.

50% nonwhite.
they're literally retarded shitskins.
you can't reason with mental midgets

You don’t have a choice.

Do you know what is meant by non-tariff trade barriers? There’s one really big one.

USA is the only superpower

you mean israel

Yes, like bans on dangerous/risky products? For example some countries don't want the risk of fentanyl or alcoholic drinks or tobacco or cocaine or opiates in medicine although they could/would be trade goods to someone.
All barriers must fall or what?

You don’t have a choice

no u

what the fuck is the deep state you absolute retards keep talking about, clearly if there was such thing Trump would not be president. Please enlighten me to this dumbass conspiracy of what the deep state is with proof it exists.

He's doing it to remind japan how much they hate china and that he is the side that is in direct opposition to china.

Regulations. Sure. A better example would be European regulations on American meat. Their choice will be drop the regulations or lose access to the American market entirely.

The barrier I was referencing was currency value though.

If we are their best friend we should treat them better. They show us more respect than our anglo saxon race brothers

European regulations on American meat

Are the same as on European meat. But you don't produce meat, you produce a kind of toxic waste.

The US market too won't drop its regulations and accept a ton more fentanyl from countries that'd like to export it freely and vietnamese tuktuk vehicles, so that won't happen

But many if not most countries on the list had their currency at market value vs. the USD.

They’re not, but whether they are or not is besides the point. If a regulation exists mainly to prevent foreign competition, then that’s its purpose and obviously the foreign competitor would attack it. From the American perspective, we don’t care at all if you think our meat is good or not. You regulate with express purpose of keeping it out of your market. But the goal here is actually to make you buy our meat, but that seems to have been lost on all of you. I never thought European media campaigns could be so effective in 2025. You guys really are sheep of the media over there. They tell you how it’s and you just believe it. Think for a second why Trump would refuse to negotiate with Vietnam even if they agree to stop all tariffs and have little to no regulation? What could they want? Use your brain and not NPC Yuro subroutines.

Correct. We won’t. What’s your point?

We don’t give a shit about market value. We want a competitive dollar. China is like the perfect example of this. They could drop all regulatory and and tariff barriers tomorrow. Trump still wouldn’t agree. He wants their currency pegged to USD.

You don’t have a choice

Maybe now, but later on everyone will make sure they have a second option for when America elects another retard.

Maybe Trump is smart enough to realize that, and he wants to use his weight to get the most favorable deal now since there will be no second attempt at extorting the world

They can’t. They’re going to negotiate a new deal and any future president that tries to undo that would be committing immediate economic suicide.

Why would the Japanese take our cars? They have Honda and Toyota above all else, and a robust train and public transit system. The last they need is piece of shit Fords and Rams.

That's sama to you, baka

What. The competitive dollar is when it's at market value. But ok if he has the idea that he wants it to have a certain value in CNY he can just do that with the USA if he convinces the republicans. What will it help?

It was made specifically so that dealers and "domestic" carmakers wouldn't lose out on sales to (what they perceive as) clearly superior Japanese competition. The guy you're replying to is so retarded I don't know how he manages to function on a day to day basis.

This has nothing to do with thinking or feeling. If your meat does not pass the simplest laboratory tests, it is a health risk. Why do you want to poison the world?
Trump correctly sees trade deficits as a sell-off of domestic assets. But to correct that, he needs to convince his people to produce more and consume less. But, as is typical for the modern American, he wants to get free lunch instead.

berkshirehathaway.com/letters/growing.pdf

Your country created that law to protect your own industry. Japs are happy to give away their grey imports to anyone who will have them.
Miga fags proving again that your IQs are double digits at best. Kill yourself.

No currencies are competitive in regard to investment when they’re weak relative to the other currency. For example, the main reason China has been able to siphon so much industry away from the United States for the last few decades is because they made sure to keep their currency below the USD. So the United States is seeking a relatively weaker USD to take that advantage away. He can’t just do this, because other countries can change their currency relative to yours no matter what changes you make. What you need is a deal where they agree to peg their currency to the price of USD on your terms.

Again, we don’t give a fuck about your laboratory tests. I’m not sure what I’m not being clear about. Get rid of regulations and allow our meat into the market or lose access to our market in its entirety. That is your choice. Nobody give a fuck if you think the regulatory tests are justified on the basis of some lab tests.

I think someone just needs to show Trump one of those mega container ships. The ones that hold like 24000 containers. This is why global trade works, because shipping costs become basically nil when in bulk freight aboard any number of the hundreds, thousands, of these behemoths out there. I'm sure he's had to have seen these ships at dockyards before. Whether it's made in Vietnam or Topeka, shipping it to Boston is basically the same cost because of those ships.

My neighbor had a Ford SUV when I lived in Japan. They aren't too big.

Please please make and import more jap products. I have 40 year old electric saws from Japan that I still use everyday, same with US, but I like the jap saws better.

Wrong. I used to sell cars and motorcycles and would always get guys, Japanese and American, trying to import vehicles. It's possible, but we'd have to leave them in a port to be homologized to Japanese standards, which could take a month to upwards of a year. The real kicker was the typical relationshop dynamic; if we paid an old guy to do it for us who was Japanese, it would take weeks. If we tried to do it ourselves, it would take months and they'd always find problems, even if we'd just fixed the problem they marked. On top of that, it would cost several thousands of dollars.

If that's not a trade barrier, I don't know what is.

Japanese really like Jeep and Chevy for some reason, but they'd always get cold feet when I told them the process of getting one from the United States.

I thought japs were supposed to be smart?
how the fuck do you retards still not get it?
it doesn't matter that the japanese or vietnamese or whatever else country has no use for US goods/finds them expensive - Trump is forcing them to buy an X amount of stuff regardless. These countries can sell these at a loss, or throw them in the ocean for all he cares - this is simply the new cost of doing business because access to the US market is worth a lot more to these economies than refusing payment of tribute (it's actually better than a tribute because at least you're getting finished goods in return).

muh resilient bug people who are used to being poor

lol you retards don't live in the real world. the tariffed countries literally cannot afford to continue to want to be export-based economies without access to the american market. in china's case, who do you think will replace the missing US demand? Europe? Do you think Europe will agree to be China's dumping ground???? lmao there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the current global order and it's showing.
the tariffed countries will either have to undergo a class-struggle and make the generational choice to re-orient their entire economical existence or bend the knee. there is no alternative choice.

Trump wants the world to pay protection money in exchange for protection from his military. We will essentially become vassal states.
While that was already kind of true it will become undeniable.

Those who make the deals first typically end up getting the worst terms.

anime becomes real

If chinkna attacked Nippon, I would go sign up to fight tomorrow, I'd literally wrap the flag of Japan around me and slaughter chinks. Like me there is millions. Don't mess with my fucking anime people you fucking commies

Lfrith

Good taste.
Also Gunpla is about to skyrocket in price, but everything you can right now.

What you need is a deal where they agree to peg their currency to the price of USD on your terms.

This. But why would we do that when the orange monkey will just be out of power in 4 years? If not sooner when someone assassinates him.
You want to have your cake and eat it too.

Do you think you can hold out without the American market for 4 years? You probably can’t. What if another Republican wins and it’s 8 years? What about 12? It’s a pretty huge gamble.

Nicely played hininsan.

China can bleed longer than the US. Communist leaders don't care if their people starve to death in the meantime. The reality is that the chinks can wait out Trump's term.

This. China is no stranger is suddenly having like 30 million people die because of a massive regime change. It's happened like 6 times.

I think Australia can hold out, because we're not really reliant in your economy at all.
It will actually be bad for our exports is the Australian dollar was pegged to the USD.
In a way I would prefer that we weren't a banana economy relying on exporting raw materials, but that's where we are right now.
Is China enough of a threat for us to follow Trump's agenda? It's going to be interesting.
When it comes to China I firmly believe they can outlast you.

We’re not really worried about Australia. So it’s all sort of moot. These tariffs are mainly about China and Europe.

China can’t outlast us. They are completely cooked.

mate even if the next administration was Dems, they will not repeal these tariffs because guess what? they're gonna have the desired effect lmao.
i know it's a bitter pill to swallow for everyone, especially in the age of nation states (nationalism) where you have pride and an image of strength and independence but you're politically being forced to suck Trumps big fat cock.
but your choice is either to disconnect completely from the US and live on your own terms (which guarantees you'll be poorer to an extent) or physically fight back.

chinks will just accept death

like i said, you retards don't live in the real world. you live in a fantasy where you pick and choose from history to make a case - the idea that chinese today will accept being GLF'ED by Xi being one of them.
that same history is clear - there are plenty of course-shifting moments that people thought were 'retarded' at the time and yet happened anyway (Nixon coming off the gold standard being a recent example). Time and time again the US has laid the smack-down on countries (Plaza Accord?) and time and time again countries have taken it. This time will be no different lol.

golden age of global trade is when you ruin global trade.

China can bleed longer than the US. Communist leaders don't care if their people starve to death in the meantime.

Doesn't matter we needed to decouple from China anyway, being dependent on our greatest most dangerous enemy was retarded. They are getting stronger and stronger while we weaken. This is why China "does nothing" they are content because they will win by default if we stay the course.
Either we get the suffering out of the way now on our own terms or we do it when we are at war or when they feel we are at our weakest and get totally fucked. Nobody is going to starve here over having less plastic trinkets, 100 smart things, or having to wait a couple extra years to upgrade their iPhone.

The reality is that the chinks can wait out Trump's term.

A lot will have changed in 4 years, it's only been a few months so far. Even democrats are not stupid enough to think being dependent on China is a good thing. Trump is doing them a favor taking the heat for what is necessary. It's easy to sit back and criticize everything Trump does but realistically Democrats aren't just going to pop back into office and say "Hey we really should go back to sucking China's dick ASAP!"

toyotas and anime tiddies are just too good to tax
plus japan is relatively supportive of trump

Who the fuck wants an american shitbox?

Just make cars that fit Japanese standards then? Isn't that what Japanese car makers have to do to sell in the USA? California has very strict standards and I see Japanese cars everywhere. That's not a trade barrier. That's a tard barrier and it appears American car manufacturers are too tarded to overcome it. No surprise really considering they can't even sell cars to Americans.

Why should anyone want to be dependent on america over china

Huh. By that logic the USA might just as well pass a law to be automatically be at or below the CNY target then it can't be lower. It simply doesn't work regardless tho.

The industry moved to efficiently organized Chinese coasts because of the efficiency of these regions and the low cost of work. The USA isn't even going to just let the coastal states have the concentrated industry. And the US dream isn't to be infinitely cheap labor.

I would rather be making low pay living in a small apartment in Spain eating fresh healthy food every day than be making higher pay working retail in the US

I'm talking about the U.S. being dependent on China, it's foolish for us since we will eventually be at war with China.
I don't give a shit who other countries want to be dependent on, by all means they should go sell to China.

Why did we build back Japan? Attack us, fight so ferociously that we have to annihilate hundreds of thousands of civilians to end the war, we rebuild the entire country and give them everything to this day. WTF was the war for lol?

Make them fear the Samurai, Donald-san

We aren't going to war with China. That's all a larp by tough guy repubs. Everyone knows that even if we somehow won it would end our empire and our position as world super power.

No one buys mutt mobiles they think big = asethetic

Staging base for a Chinese invasion which your military is now incapable of pulling off, hell you can't even pretend you control the south china sea anymore.

Remember 3 days ago when faggots on here were cumming to the Japan-China-Korea trade alliance?

It's a secret trade alliance that will only be unveiled if Trump isn't reigned in.

nobody wants expensive american dogshit cars. remember that time the feds took taxpayer money and used it to buy and destroy hundreds of thousands of good functioning cars? i do and so i refuse to buy anything made after 2008

I once fucked a big tittied Japanese girl in Tokyo and it was great. Japanese are bros