Is Trump right, or is he wrong about American wanting to work blue collar factory jobs?
Is Trump right, or is he wrong about American wanting to work blue collar factory jobs?
I want to be a hunter gatherer
The more whites doing slave labor the better. Real talk.
people were leaving manufacturing because they got office jobs
kek, huge cope.
the people who want something better than smoking weed and shitting up mcniggers will work them. you are free to continue working at mcniggers, if you desire to do so.
its a fucking yid. he will experience the joy of making anything.
(((Cohn)))
They don't aspire because they don't have those jobs available in America. Circular reasoning fallacy.
*will never
Its awesome that retards cant get paid to shadow write crap like this anymore now that AI can do it in a split second
We could get those times back, but some things have to change. The tariffs are the first step, if they work then American manufacturers will get so much more business they'll have no choice but to hire more people and pay them decent wages. Americans used to gladly do those jobs because you could buy a house, a car and all that, now you can't. We also have to curb inflation, which I'm afraid Trump might fuck up with his willingness to spend ridiculously, like $1 trillion on the military. And of course all of this hardly matters as long as the Fed can just print all it wants.
Why would factory owners pay a living wage to americans when they can just import 10 million jeets?
They did that here. Your guys were watching the experiment.
I worked around 2000 degree furnaces for 20 years. I loved it and made a lot of money. I only left because it got gay like most jobs
Well here's the thing: not everyone can have those cushy office jobs (which make a lot of people miserable by the way) because we don't need them. Lots of parts of the country were doing better when we had manufacturing there, so it's logical to assume they would do better if it returned. In those areas a lot of the lowest common denominator jobs are like working at Walmart or McDonalds. For people with no better options the chance to get maybe a better paying union job at a factory would be the best option. (And nobody's talking about unions but this is the opportunity for the them to make a comeback)
Imagine writing a memoir, alleging what someone else had in their mind and never said outright, and considering yourself a serious person after that. I don’t see how you could do this to yourself unless you were blackmailed.
(And yes zoomers etc all wish to be a faggot influencer and get payed to stream themselves playing videogames but eventually the cold hard reality is going to set in that very very few can actually do that.
No source
Language expresses bias
Trump sits there and goes "I don't get it and have had these views for thirty years" instead of the way he usually talks
I doubt
This is why all Jews need to be exiled from government
If we do not get back to producing things and having retard gruntwork the United States is OVER
Just like South Korea and the UK are OVER
Those countries are FUCKED, in the former because you need to work work work 25 hours a day to not be jobless forever and the latter because they based their entire economy around bean counting. We CANNOT sustain a country on Google and the meme that is the stock market.
Theres a bunch of jerkoffs not doing shit, get to work.
He's wrong. What they actually want is UBI.
The MIGAmutts that shill for factory labor should be forced to work in the sweatshops they're advocating for instead of telling someone else to do it, but they obviously won't sign up for it since it's a shit job that will have a shit pay.
Trump is right. I've worked in factories and in an office. The office paid twice as much but otherwise it was worse in some ways. The factory jobs were easier and the time went faster. I was in much better shape working in factories because I was always moving. In an office, even if you have a standing desk, you are stationary most of the day.
With more domestic labor demand the factory wages *should* go up, but that depends on immigration.
Which Cohn are we talking about here?
Also, source?
Was this from the same book about the gorilla channel?
It's like they live in bizzarro world. The factories closed down as they were sent to China. The out of work guys had to settle for shitty service industry jobs at lower pay, or remain unemployed. Not everyone can go to college and be a professional, yet we took away the types of jobs that used to be available for such people, and left them shitty low paying service jobs instead.
Apparently the Democrats plan was for all manufacturing to be done overseas at extremely low pay, and then raise the minimum wage here to absurd levels that people would make $25 an hour working at McDonalds, and they thought people would be able to afford a house with the type of job that used to be done by teenagers. That's an insane plan.
No one needs office workers, the whole office thing was a scam to prop up finance above real labor while reaping the rewards overseas.
If he hopes for a true return to productivity, we should see a sharp reduction "office" jobs.
This also with their boner for automation, should further shirk the establish american "middle-class".
Americans don't shy away from labor but they also want to hold a tangible personal benefit resulting from that labor as well, they want to better their lives and their communities. The money paid out to them used to be enough when holiday/annual bonuses were the norm, there used to be a path of upward mobility from laborer-to-corporate with no college necessary too. Both scarcely exist in the modern era, "at-will" employment states have ruined any semblance of work ethic because no one wants to go "above and beyond", only to get fired due to company downsizing. On the flip-side, unions have abused their position to threaten companies and retain workers, who take job security for granted while barely doing anything.
blue collar factory jobs
NO ONE who is building new factories will be employing many Americans, or even American-Indians.
They will be renting, leasing, or buying robots ---- just look at all the factories build globally in the last 3 years.
picrel is in China, they're your size and they don't take lunch breaks, smoke breaks, unionize, complain about working 24 hours a day, or become less productive when their life outside work is difficult.
If you owned a factory, would you employ a bunch of fucking humans?? lol
Gary Cohn in the Bob Woodward book.
The gorilla channel thing was a top tier meme though.
he missed the day we talked about the effects of the industrial revolution on the agricultural workforce
Those are toys you fucking retard. I've worked in factories with ABB robot arms. We still needed people to program the robots, to load/unload parts, to inspect parts, and do all sorts of jobs that would be difficult for a machine to do. We are still decades way from fully autonomous robots like in the movies that can do everything a person can do.
So for now, let's say we have a factory in China that uses 10,000 workers, but if we move the plant to the US and increase the automation, we can get the same results with 1,000 workers. It still means 1,000 people in the US now have jobs that didn't exist here before, and our trade deficit would be lower.
You are out of your fucking mind. Those are not industrial robots.
The whole
Americans don't want to work blue collar
meme was one of the ways globalists directed away from the real issue, which was that jobs could no longer support an acceptable standard of living.
Fast forward to 2025, most people in the white collar space need dual incomes and side hustles to stay afloat (and pay off additional student debts).
We never solved the real issues which made blue collar jobs untenable, and it ended up spreading to white collar jobs.
He's talking about you, so you answer.
If I could get paid working a manufacture job as much as I'm getting paid working a software engineering job I would take a manufacturing job.
And If pigs could fly we could get pork wings, but they can't and no one will pay blue collar workers as much as software engineers.
They once did, adjusted for cost of living and inflation.
No. They had a much lower standard of living in the past . Most Middle class Americans aren't willing to have a single car per family , live in a tiny house, not eat out often and not go on vacation often like people did in the 60s.
Americans are living more extravagantly than they did in the 60s. If you were willing to live like your grandparents did , everything would be affordable.
No one needs office workers
It could have been done at home, but in the office I wrote software that controls machines in factories, so yes it is needed.
Today you need two incomes to get what you described + maybe a second car
No you fucking wouldn't. I work in a factory office, and the guys who toil in the shop live in hell. Absolute hell
And in the office I trained an AI to do my job.
She won't do it as well as me and a team of 500 people. But she also will get paid nothing.
These are the things we grapple with.
It seems sardonic that we dismiss Human labor, while still having them around. I find it inhuman, and the alternative, "UBI" as false god. I do not think that those that promote this idea are as caring, as they genocidal.