Trump rejects Vietnam's offer of a zero tariff deal due to 'nontariff cheating'

Vietnam is acting as a proxy for China.

What term would you have used for someone trying to get others to believe bullshit by acting like it's true?

The nation is run by a retard, anon. It's that simple

Trump doesn't believe in capitalism. He only believes in robbery. If it's a "good deal" for you, it's a "bad deal" for them. There is no such thing as mutual benefit in his mind.

trade deficit doesn't mean you're getting ripped off you stupid fucking moron. It means you're rich and prosperous

I'm smarter than a real estate magnate/president of the free world

Where does a leftist's hubris come from?

No it is not, retard. Vietnam is (oh wait, I mean "was") our greatest ally in South East Asia. They hate China.

Do you have tariffs on american goods, yes or no?
Then bend over.

Of course I'm smarter than him. You're not? You must be a fucking idiot, then.

Then why are you poor and he isn't? That doesn't sound very smart.

Lying. Gaslight means lying to women specifically.

Why do you give a shit if other countries stab themselves in the gut you retarded imbecile? "Oh no, that group of third world shitholes is taxing the fuck out of their population through tariffs to keep a small percentage of cronies and billionaires competitive in the local market, better do the same here as well!", would be a line of thought spun by the absolutely deranged. And yet, it's what the richest nation in the history of the world is actually doing, dear fucking lord.

Because our national debt is through the roof and tariffs are a revenue stream for our government?

No it doesn't.

all these other countries already tariffed american goods? For fucking years? Do you really think people won't understand that?

I think (you) don't understand it.
The tariff on the US from the EU was 1-3%, the tariff on the US from Japan 3.2%. The Vietnamese one was 9.4%.

If you're that bothered though explain the article, Navarro just rejected Vietnams offer of a zero tariff deal saying it isn't good enough. You can't get much better than a zero tariff deal and you're still whining.

As opposed to trump serving himself and maybe thr daughter he molested when she was a child?

Ok .
These people can live on 10 dollars a week.
Americans can't compete with countries that have no inflation problems.

How much was it going the other way, nigger?

100%

Distributive bargaining always has a winner and a loser. It happens when there is a fixed quantity of something and two sides are fighting over how it gets distributed. Think of it as a pie and you’re fighting over who gets how many pieces. In Trump’s world, the bargaining was for a building, or for construction work, or subcontractors. He perceives a successful bargain as one in which there is a winner and a loser, so if he pays less than the seller wants, he wins. The more he saves the more he wins.

The other type of bargaining is called integrative bargaining. In integrative bargaining the two sides don’t have a complete conflict of interest, and it is possible to reach mutually beneficial agreements. Think of it not as a single pie to be divided by two hungry people, but as a baker and a caterer negotiating over how many pies will be baked at what prices, and the nature of their ongoing relationship after this one gig is over.

The problem with Trump is that he sees only distributive bargaining in an international world that requires integrative bargaining. He can raise tariffs, but so can other countries. He can’t demand they not respond. There is no defined end to the negotiation and there is no simple winner and loser. There are always more pies to be baked.

medium.com/@davidhonig_67081/distributive-bargaining-in-an-integrative-world-1593a7c6ffe2

How much was what 'going the other way'? A lot of US dollars were being used to buy things like Nike shoes from Vietnam if that's what you mean.

Would you feel happy about the situation if Vietnam decided to send you a billion pieces of paper with 'IOU' written on them per year in addition?

I mean how much were those countries having to pay extra to do business in america?

Australia and China have a coal deal, who else has coal to sell to China ?
USA is being boycotted worldwide

It varied per good

Before the recent increase in April 2025, the U.S. tariff rates on Vietnam varied by product, as the U.S. applies tariffs based on specific goods rather than a uniform rate across all imports from a country. Vietnam, as a member of the World Trade Organization (WTO) since 2007, generally faced the U.S. Most-Favored-Nation (MFN) tariff rates, which are standard for WTO members.
For most goods, these MFN rates were relatively low, often ranging from 0% to 15%, depending on the product category. For example:
Many U.S. exports to Vietnam faced tariffs of 15% or less, suggesting a reciprocal low-rate structure for Vietnamese goods entering the U.S.

Specific sectors like textiles, footwear, and electronics (key Vietnamese exports) typically saw tariffs in the single digits, with some items like certain apparel facing higher rates due to U.S. trade policies protecting domestic industries.

Steel and aluminum imports from Vietnam were subject to additional tariffs from 2018 onward, with steel at 25% and aluminum at 10%, under Section 232 measures.

There wasn’t a single, blanket tariff rate for Vietnam; it depended on the Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS) codes for each product.

example

he average U.S. tariff rate on footwear from Vietnam is 13.6%, while the rate on apparel is 18.8%
reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/us-tariffs-vietnam-would-be-blow-nike-other-sportswear-brands-2025-04-01/

Vietnam just offered Trump a zero tariff deal though and that got rejected still

How will they pay for the cost of living in the USA.
Hyperinflation is the problem in the USA, people need to make over 120 k to live.
Look at the average American living in 1960 and compare it to now.
That's fucked up.
You can't pay Americans 10 dollars a week like in Vietnam and be able to live.

Then why is the US in debt? They buy your shit with strong currency, then have debts in that strong currency, so you can use US dollars to buy a lot of fancy shit from other countries. Why do you think the "developing" world is called that? Because without US dollars you're not just sitting still, you'd be left farther and farther back in competing in tech every year vs developed countries. Thanks to us dollars you can afford first world tech and education to develop. Now the deal is off. If you wanna keep it up the US needs to drop its debt. Simple enough?

Ok
Vietnam needs to raise prices, and include the tariff price in the product.

Dumb communist retard

Muh gaslighting

Where's your pussy hat

this anon has a better grasp on economic than the entire trump administration

Saudi Araba, China, India, Africa resources can stop flowing to America.
Most Americans live like slaves and die young.
No different than any other countries

We've been getting ripped off on trade for your entire pathetic life

Oh nooooooooooo!!!! Not the factories!!!!!! We need to bring back those high-paying steel mill jobs which haven't existed in the United States for like 50 years! The poor boomer union thugs are really suffering

Sells the Panama canal and now makes threats to China,

This is how the Vietnamese repay us for everything we've done for them!!!????

Lmao you're fucking retarded
They have free visa travel for Russian and Chinese citizens while Americans have to pay to enter

Vietnam war was a American war crime, there should be sections on the USA

When did burgers turn into such turbokikes?

Because Americans are obnoxious, and that's the price to deal with Americans.

Canada should do business with China and for an alliance in case USA invades Canada
Like NATO but for USA aggression

So you'll itemize every american tariff so you can highlight the highest ones while giving an average for all vietnamese tariffs? Yep, we got a kike.

Enjoying your Gorbachev moment shartymarts?

What are you even trying to say, retard? Yes, bringing back steel manufacturing will be a great thing. Is that really the angle you want to play?

It's here during 2020, the moment will probably be in 2026.

Ok
Who will do this labor ? Not white men

Trump knows those dirty Vietnamese cocksuckers would just start routing chink goods through their rice paddy covered land to help them subvert the tariffs, he's not stupid.

Yes they will if you pay them enough and go back to being a meritocracy. That's literally all it takes.

How much and how long will it be and cost to build a new steel mill in this inflation ?

Ok
Read Bethlehem Steel, that's what happened to every factory in the USA.
Greedy people like Trump

Most financially literate pastanigger

File for bankruptcy but has a gold toilet like sudam Husain

Waaahhhhh, where's my instant gratification

This might be hard for faggots with no kids to understand but it's about building a better country. We've been paying them and it's only gotten worse. I have no problem paying when I know my money is going towards the betterment of the nation and not faggots in botswana.

DAE blumpf = retard?

nah but u are

Vietnam used to be unbelievably based until it became an ICE and Interpol honeypot, if you know what i mean

People like trump aren't trump, nigger. He wants to leave a legacy for his descendants. So either get on board or get off the fucking train cause it's full steam ahead.

he doesn't care about low taxes or the free market, he's a gangster

the government is the mob and always has been

Today I've realised that while liberals are morons because they are liberals, conservatives are morons because they are morons

it's so blatant, everyone can see the viets doing it
i don't understand why they couldn't keep it a secret

Again, you can't afford to build a foundry in today's inflation in the USA.
What Trump is doing is selling off parts of the USA to foreign countries, they build and control the jobs , towns and local government, eventually getting so big they control the states.
Your an idiot to sell America to foreign companies, and not Americans.
Because Trump hates American women, he has admitted it.
No DEI

Epstein, Jared from subway, and ?

taxsummaries.pwc.com/vietnam/corporate/other-taxes#:~:text=Value-added tax (VAT),category of goods or services.

I mean he's right, the Vietnamese VAT is basically just another tariff on top for different categories of foreign imports.

Are you really so braindead you can't see how huge the incentive will be for anyone who wants to onshore steel production when foreign steel starts costing more and all these factories that rely on it want to get it cheaper. There's no way it would take that long to get it up and running. A couple years at the worst.

?
Trump turned the USA into Iran, Muslim laws and rich people running the government.
Russia has a full army, the soldiers they are using are from jails. Prisoners that where let go from 2011. Yes 2011 not 2014 when Wagner pmc got prisoners.
It's about to heat up

Foreign countries building and owning American land , jobs, towns , government

Welcome to Islamic law Trump style
Waterloo

Him only or and the rest of the millionaires & billionaires which bred him essentially?

How many Central American countries are with the bricks ?
Start building bases for bricks members

Lot of businesses that had their manufacturing in China were moving their shit to Vietnam after Trump began announcing his tariffs plan, thinking they could avoid getting hit by it and then move back after Trump's second term is finished. These are the people he's after, and it's why everyone's being affected (including Israel)

How much does it cost to drill oil ?
Well oil prices are going down, and it won't be a profit for oil companies to drill babies drill

Israel is free trade.
Bad analogy anon

It's called gangster capitalism.

It's called, Atlantic City casino bankruptcy.
Nothing Christian about Trump and his cult, they act like Muslims

Trump got a loan from Russia, who is the gangster and who is the junkie ?

What happened to my pillow guy ? Will that happen to Musk ?

Parent blaming woke for his kid being a tranny, I will say that parent is woke for blaming woke for his duty to be a parent.
Jesus is going piss all over the USA

USA is being boycotted worldwide

What's it like being retarded?

Piss Jesus piss
Coming on USA back

in this inflation

What's your first language?

The fucking guy you're simping for admitted there's no tariffs.

You need resources, oil prices are to low to pump out of the ground and refine.
Your coal can be replaced by Australia and Canada.
You have no farm export left, so Europe and Russia will supply the world with food.
Your technology ? Is suburbs that are so close to each other you can hear your neighbors talking. your an idiot talking shit like a drunk homeless person

No it doesn't

You deny inflation exists ?
Nigger rapper, you don't have a clue

He probably got a public school education.

Yeah credit card debt and tax leans, America is back and about to go bankrupt homeless

Shut the fuck up, wumao
You're shit at your job and should be replaced by an Indian

Look Nigger, your getting your asses handed to you.
You are not solving it.
You one paycheck from being homeless
O yes

God I only hope so.

You have no farm export left

We're the largest food exporter in the world retard
And besides seems like you could use some English lessons, hit up a tutor today

Turn to Jesus not Data
What a cult can do to a country

That's hilarious, good luck Chang

No more Audi in America.
That's going to cost to repair the old ones
How many more will follow

he rejects the deal because the US got a trade deficit with vietnam, we know the formula he can stop lying

Trump stop lying ? Not possible.
His Ego collapsed the USA

China also ships goods out of Vietnam as made in Vietnam

as said you can stop lying

Super hyperinflation will happen.
But eggs are costing less
Fucking eggs and trannies are important but collapsing a country is ok.
This isn't happening

scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3305089/vietnam-helped-chinas-firms-avoid-us-tariffs-trump-just-put-end

Nigger

Companies are laying off , you going to build more companies ?
What the fuck is wrong with you ?

How THE FUCK am I supposed to buy my new nintendo switch now?

Spoonfeed me everything because I'm retarded

I don't know what the Vietnamese tariffs are for every item, or for the US ones, those are just two parts of it.
Tariffs in general are itemized like that because it makes more economic sense than a blanket tariff.

You've ignored the part that I posted in OP where Vietnam agreed to do zero tariffs and Trump still says that isn't acceptable.
Vietnam is a small country for one thing so good luck getting them to buy millions of expensive artisan American goods.

That's up to the companies operating out of the country. They don't trade only with the US either.

Include tariff price

That's what the market does for the consumer who buys the product.
This entire thing has exposed MIGA as economically illiterate.

The fed won't lower interest rates this round.
That's going to suck

here is what your problem is, Trump wants to recreate the WTO -China
but he hates international structures and win/win deals thus it ain't going to happen

I don't know any Americans with money just credit.
It's a shame
I really want to see the USA isolated like North Korea.

my wumaos, they are so weak

I really don’t know how you guys aren’t getting this. He doesn’t want to negotiate tariffs. He wants to negotiate currencies. Tariffs are just how he is bringing them to the table.

People will riot, Trump's supporters are not wrapped to tight.
Lies these senators are telling will catch up and people will riot and burn the USA down.
USA will be a tourist attraction

Exactly. China and Vietnam need to reach a deal together. If tariffs are lifted on Vietnam, China will increase their manufacturing there.

nontarrif cheating

??? raise everyone in vietnams salary to american levels or else!

Absolutely one million percent this. We had an empire based on money magic that enriched everyone in the empire. Now it's being turned off?

I'm pretty sure he knows he's destroying everything, and that's the point, which is even scarier than outright retardation. This level of "incompetence" has to be intentional. Guess we're getting that digital global currency sooner than expected.

I was always for the globalists, I was the biggest globalist, no one does globalism better than me, I made the dollar a global currency for the world, for the whole world, and it's beautiful, and we can see what's being purchased and where the cybernugget tokens go, and we can make sude it's fair, for everyone, and no one else could've done it but me. "

Ok
September 11, China helped. NATO made everything into a drama disaster.
Now Russia is looking to nuke the USA, no one is coming to help America

85 countries are getting tariffs so who isn't getting tariffs ?

american goods arent not being bought bacause of tarrifs they're not selling well because they're poor quality

And higher price because of the USA inflation problem

It's well known that China forces smaller countries in SEA to be skin suits for them. So they can bypass rules and regulations. Then when there's a problem with the products, they point the finger at their host and say "this your product, have your name, not say china, no brame china!"

well vietnam is about to show the world what happens when you try to negitiate with financial terrorists.

this bodes poorly for future negotiations. everyone should just retaliate with their own tarriffs on america and then just ignore further communication.

What the fuck is even available to buy that's actually a product completely made in America anyway? Bourbon? No one gives a fuck about bourbon.

How about charge more for the product ?

I appreciate post ID's more than ever looking at this thread.

Food,
Oil
Weapons
Aircraft

everyone should just retaliate with their own tarriffs on america and then just ignore further communication.

Yeah that would be great entertainment. I'd lovvvve to see it.

We've been getting ripped off on trade

Richest country in the world and we're "getting ripped off." lmao
I got to hand it to Trump and his team for convincing Americans that their economic woes are because of Vietnam being mean to us and not because the rich havent been paying taxes. This is right up there with "trickle down economics" as an incredible way to dupe people.

2 million people in the military, he is going to have to cut that down to under 1 million.
Cost for each military personnel, because inflation will cause major consequences

subsidizing their industries

US does that all the time through the purchase of overpriced mil gear.
America also OPENLY subsidizes it's agri industries.

Mark up on appeal is crazy, but the labor and shipping is low cost.
Mark up

Who going to buy American agriculture now ? No one.

What kind of delusional Canuckistani retardation is this horse-shit? You retarded cunts need to pay tribute to be suffered as a neighbor.

Adopt our labor laws
Adopt our environmental laws
Adhere to our employee compensation norms
THEN you can get zero tariff access to the United States market because until then the playing field is not level.

what industries is vietnam actually subsidizing though? any facts?

from AI:

In Vietnam, the government provides subsidies and incentives to promote the development of various industries, including information technology, biotechnology, new materials technology, automation technology, scientific research, software production, and renewable energy

ok but thats literally what all countries do. provide support and grants for that kind of stuff. if trump expects all countries to go full retard and stop supporting their own industries he's gone mad

May 7 interest rates stay the same.

get cheap affordable goods which gives American middle class opportunity to grow like mad with cheap cost of living.

ripped off

In what universe my nigga?

thats retarded.

Inflation in the USA is to high. You don't pay enough for goods, you mark them up in the USA 1000x
What is wrong with people
Home prices in other countries are adorable.

nontariff cheating

Tariff avoidance on behalf of China.
China ships them a 90% product, Vietnam does the remaining 10% and ships it off to America as a Vietnamese product..

My dad didn't wasn't incredibly wealthy.

Did food go up in price ?

So China will be selling their Treasury notes.
Nice

Because they are low IQs and arrogant. They think the world revolve around them like the poojeet

you didn't think about trade deficits for a single second in your entire life until now

Then why is our shit tariffed and otherwise actively restricted so hard, if nobody will buy it?

America has to pay subsidies to its farmers because otherwise they cannot compete with salve labour from abroad. Ending these subsidies requires him to end foreign subsidies.

Take rice for example. Did you know california produces rice. over 500,000 acres of rice under cultivation this year in california. But they cant export a single kilo of that rice to vietnam. because in vietnam, the rice paddies are largely, not wholly but largely, state owned. and rice farming in vietnam is also subsidized. California farmers cannot compete in a market that has absolutely ZERO safety standards, pays slave wages, is accross an ocean and is state subsidized.

vietnam has also become a conduit for goods made in China that sew on "made in vietnam" labels and ship it to America. this has to end. this pratice alone of trasnhipping products by chyna through vietnam has given teh rich in vietnam a ton of cash, and disadvantaged the poor people of vietnam. It has also given Chyna considerable leverage over the Vietnamese government, and thats not a good thing.

Vietnam paid perhaps the highest price in history for its freedom. they fought for almost four decades. and today wealthy chinese capitalists are taking it over. that wont end well for the vietnamese people. It needs to stop.

let me tell you about your country

Retard, it doesn't matter if the average viet gook hates chink. The regime only goal to make money and maintain their power, they sell vietnam to chink for pennies, literally having plan to let chink have their own independent economic zone in vietnam land.

China doesn't even have 1T in treasuries

Chyna has always had the option of selling their treasury notes. and they can go ahead and do that. US treasuries are perhaps the single most fundamentally sound finanical instrument in the history of banking! on par with gold. So go ahead and sell them off, plenty of people want to buy them.

Trump doesn't want a fair deal, he wants to rip them off

Maybe I'm misreading your post or OP, but why would or should Americans care if Trump wants to rip off Vietnam? Wouldn't we as Americans want our oligarchs to basically rob everyone who isn't America? Why would I give a shit about another country? Sentimentalism?

Vietnam deserve every punishment it gets. These so called "free trade" is just human exploitation where the viets work like slave in sweatshop and American losing job so it doesn't matter if the product is cheaper when Americans can't afford it or losing everything else.

90% of US economy is services based that's why you have average wages 2x higher than even EU or Japan you retarded fucking nigger.

You morons literally voted to go back to assembly lines for minimal wage.

its not though. thats just bullshit that trump invented. people just dont want to buy stuff thats been handled by niggers

So Vietnam protects their rice industry in a way that is in their national interest? How is that ANY different from what Trump wants to do by reshoring industry to America?

if reshoring your industries is the plan why dont you just have the tarriffs and stop trying to negotiate them away. is tarriffs the goal or is free trade the goal? make your fucking minds up sharters

vietnam has also become a conduit for goods made in China that sew on "made in vietnam" labels and ship it to America. this has to end. this pratice alone of trasnhipping products by chyna through vietnam has given teh rich in vietnam a ton of cash, and disadvantaged the poor people of vietnam. It has also given Chyna considerable leverage over the Vietnamese government, and thats not a good thing

You understand vietnam more than 90+% of viet subhumans

Vietnam paid perhaps the highest price in history for its freedom

The freedom of being treated worse by your own people than any occupied government would. Like literally every single time. This is cucked forsaken land.

It's been a popular topic in politics for decades you newfag retard

they sell vietnam to chink for pennies,

I dont know whether this poster is acutally from vietnam or using a proxy, but it doesnt matter. He gets it.

trump is using the tarriffs as a cudgel to attack chyna ... and so he should. teh chinese regime is the single largest threat to peace and democracy the world has ever seen.

has the world EVER experienced a government with a lack of morals such as has been demonstrated by the chinese communist party. they are the worlds largest and most prolific drug trafficking organization. they have organized genocide of Tibet. they have organized the genocide of Ughuyrs. they are the worlds largest polluter, in every form. they currently have a stranglehood on the people of Chyna, who are the ones who suffer the most under Xis despotic regime. they use the guise of "communism" to hide their fascist capitalist regime that is the world number one abuser of human rights.

the chinese regime must be brought down. they are nothign but an international cabal of gangsters that have the morals of a snake. I cant decide which is worse, a jew or a chinese commie.

polack and their endless wisdom

That only benefits the rich because the American lose jobs that could pay them a living wage while the super rich get richer. You should kys

I'm lurking and watching insane levels of miga cope rn

once you said vietnams rice farmers are all chinese owned i knew you were talking shit.

american rice is gross uncle bens boil in the bag shit that niggers eat. its simply not to the taste of asian consumers.

Every country your country pisses off is a potential new trade partner for us.
If trump wants to tariff china 1000% then china can sell to canada instead.

He can weapons 1200 times faster than the USA.

I dont know whether this poster is acutally from vietnam or using a proxy

Yea i am

I cant decide which is worse, a jew or a chinese commie.

The jews did it because they consider the goyims as animals, the chink did it because they can
So the chinks are worse because they don't even need mental gymnastic morality in their head.

Wish you well vietguy, may you get many dongs

he can weapons

I sincerely hope you're using a VPN and not a student or work visa with your levels of English. If it's the latter watch out!

Tks bro, once we get rid of kikes, niggers and shitskins the world can have peace for once.

One can dream. Next time I eat viet pork and broken rice I'll think of you and wish you well

no no, he also serves jews
so he's basically a republican

its not just thier rice industry, my post made that clear. Im using rice as an exmaple. if we were onyl concerned with rice, I doubt vietnam would be suffering any tarriffs.

the facts are this, in south east asia, Vietnam (along with others, notably and even worse, is Burma) cambodia, burma have been turned into whoelsale distributors by the chinese government seekign to avoid trade restrictions.

this has worked out TERRIBLY for the poor people in these regions. Burmese girls as young as six are beign sex trafficked by chinese pimps. Burma has become the epicentre of meth and fentanyl production in SEA. Whole cities in Burma dont even have traditional signnage anymore, completely owned nad controlled by the chinese, who use the burmese people as SLAVES.

its not quite as bad in vietnam, but its getting there. and we have to turn this ship around.
ditto for cambodia. the chinese communists are moving in. they are turning its citizens into slaves. the rich in veitnam and cambodia are getting along fine ... for now, but the poor are beign subjected to lives of increasing difficulty.

and make no mistake, after the chicoms have gained enough leverage, they will pillage the wealthy classes of these nations too. look at burma to where its going. its a nasty place.

the BEST THING WE CAN DO is to help the poor people of SEA push the chicoms out. and one of the ways we can do that is to crash those economies. Cambodia, vietnam, laos and Burma are so badly infiltrated by chicoms, that we can basically just carpet bomb their economies. The poor will survive, and man Ive been to these places, they are TOUGH. you wouldnt believe how TOUGH these people are.

its a tough war, and sometimes when your position is being overun, its time to call "Broken Arrow" and begin bombing within your own perimiter. get your fuckign head down. "zips under the wire". shoot anything that dont identify itself.

No, I'm saying the stated goal of reshoring industry to protect American interests and encourage buying American goods is literally no different than Vietnam using protectionist trade practices to help their rice industry so saying "Vietnam is doing this to screw us" is hypocritical at best and total bullshit at worst.

I'm sick of the mental gymnastics/copium used to justify this shit. The only intellectually honest posters in these threads are the ones who say "yes, it's based that America does this and no one else should, because fuck you tranny kike"

Burma's situation makes me sad. I'd like to visit there but with China running things it would be a terrible idea

once you said vietnams rice farmers are all chinese owned

only i never said that.
Vietnams rice production is largely state owned. in fact its very hard to buy land in Vietnam, the communist government owns almost all of it, and thats ok.

the problem is that the Vietnamese government has been penetrated by the Chicoms to such an extent as to find themselves in a position where they no longer control their own government.

American rice may not be palatable to SEA customers, thats beside the point. Rice is being used as an example. The international trade in rice is not what we are talkign about, or at least, its a very small part. The same problems that compound that trade are true of other stuff too.

The same is NOT true of other SEA countries ... Malaysia, Phillipines, thailand etc. the chicoms are running influence operations in these nations, but they have been no where near as successful as they have been in laos, cambodia, burma and vietnam.

This is a flagrant lie, numerous countries, including and especially in Europe, put arbitrary tariffs and other trade barriers up with the US and then make excuses about buying the same shit from other, less-developed parties. And no, Chinese quality control is not great unless you have physical eyes on the factory floor. Their safety standards are also abysmal-to-nonexistent by Western standards.

Not a Republican

A gangster

Who fights for the U.S.

I see nothing wrong with this.

Its a terrifying place and should be a lesson to any nation thinking of accepting the "assistance" of the chinese communist regime.

And allow me to make myself very clear. I have considerable respect for the chinese people. The chinese people are the number one victims of this HORRIFYING regime called the chinese communist party.

The chinese communist party must be stopped. and they will not stop until we stop them. they are destroying the lives of a billion souls. they push drugs and gambling and degeneracy wherever they go. they have no regard for human rights, let alone safety or wage standards. they exploit humans in every imaginable way. they are reknown for thier cruely to animals and the destruction fo the very Earth itself.

they are SLAVE army. they are modern day SLAVERS. they are horrifying human rights abusers of the worst sort. they dont care about people, they dont care about this planet. they are a CANCER upon this Earth. they have made themselves a threat to ALL LIFE on this planet.

I don't really have anything against the Chinese people either. Maybe they have some cultural flaws but most peoples do. I don't trust anyone who works under the banner of communism

Commies in a bullshit thread. Gotcha

hey give credit where its due, they make some bomb ass bombs, military equipment and military planes. And good at building civilian aircraft and aircraft maintenance.And other advanced engineering stuff that requires precision, and total mastery of metallurgy, etc

In other words, they delegated all the basic stuff to rest of the world and focused on advanced stuff that very few in the world would actually compete with them (in Aircraft manufacturing, its literally only EU who competes with US in any meaningful way).

But MIGAtards have said, no, you got to build a shoe factory in USA, make shoes, and buy our $200 made in 'murica shoes that cost $10 to make in China and India and you MUST like it!