AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GET FUCKED VIETNAM

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do this

ok

NOT GOOD ENOUGH

what does this retard want then

This administration is a disaster already

Vietnam has unfair practices I think its tied to that shrimp scandal at red lobster thats bankrupting them. Or was that Thailand. Anyways something like that, they have practices that are unfair even though its not tariff based issues.

If he wanted free trade with Vietnam he would have signed the TPP

Retard, they barely buy anything from us

no wonder shit's retarded, navarro is an adviser.

Then why force tariffs on them in the first fucking place retard? What's the point?

get fucked Nguyen. You are having a trade surplus with the US. That is not acceptable.

let this be a warning to other countries: dont even try to negotiate with these morons (americans) in good faith

you need to buy our $90k teslas or its no deal

I really dont understand why they expect poor gooks to spend like americans on their 4th maxed out credit card

lol so what's the solution Vietnam War 2? This is so fucking stupid

Well so much for negotiating

they have our restaurants, they have our sodas, they buy our electronics

what the hell can they buy from the us that they don't already?

have an empty lot of GMC Sierras because its not a fucking truck anyone would be able to afford? does he want the embarrassing display of their officials posting how they bought teslas?

because it doesn't help us to turn them into China 2.0

what does this retard want then

their women

you just have to pay your fair share.
Trade surplus cannot be more than 3% of your import of US goods.

nigga should bring the gold standard back too while he's at it. Maximum acceleration.

That's what they get for beating us in a war. America is back for revenge.

Thats weird because I think the opposite. Before he started with the tariffs I thought it was a disaster. I had almost lost hope. Now its like... finally. Jews can take it in the ass and suck a fucking cock which is all they are really good at.

china to kneel

Zero tariffs still isn't fair because there is a trade imbalance, a trade deficit. How are people so retarded?

puts tariffs on your shit for DECADES

oh yea sure we'll go back to zero tariffs

They sell us shit cars and manufacturing stuff in the millions

We sell a stick of gum to them for a few dollars in trade

Decades of institutional advantage to ensure all we sell is a cheap stick of gum

If you still can't understand the difference, compare them to Japan where Japanese companies like Toyota have promised BILLIONS in building new car plants in the US (not mexico and canada which they have been doing and then exporting those shit cars into the US).

inb4 I don't want to work in a toyota car factory

where you get paid a decent wage

trade barriers & deficits are factored into tariffs now
they'll have to do a lot better than lowering literal tariffs to 0% to equalize

whats your IQ lol? governments cant force their citizens to buy certain things. if you want vietnamese people to buy more american stuff make better stuff at a better price. pathetic shartmericans

i go to the store

they give me 200 dollars worth of groceries

they dont buy any of my food in exchange

luckily im not a magatard so this doesn’t upset me

Why dont you expect viets that make 50000X less than you to buy your overpriced cars? Trade deficits mean we give them paper and they give us products we want. If they dont want our products who the fuck cares?

mfw I have to buy overpriced american shit to not be tariffed up the ass

america diesnt have anything for sale that vietnamese people want. if they did theyd already be buying it. this will just drive vietnam into the arms of china.

This is why we get so much shitty crap from Mexico and China and all over the Asias. They can operate in their own country and get away with making complete dogshit that doesn't even work and still make a profit.

The problem arises when you allow a totally free market and american products still lose in the competition of merit because foreigners just prefer high quality products and want to avoid american made. I would gladly pay higher prices to get Japanese quality instead of american. No amount of protectionism is going to suddenly make american cars good cars.

nobodys putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it lol.

Trade deficits mean we give them paper and they give us products we want.

Now tariffs are paid as well. It's just paper right.

who do you think is pushing trump to do these tariffs retard? jews benefit when small business die and people are reliant on megacorps

retards in this thread that think the only thing US makes is cars

Damn at least I'm not this retarded.

I'm tired of my government being so shamelessly and proudly evil instead of trying to be more diplomatic about it.

and china's getting assraped by America
you know nothing Wong snow

"they" dont pay the tarriffs. american consumers pay the tarriffs.

You dumb fucking gorilla nigger. Go ask an AI right now what a trade deficit means and how one exists. It's smarter than you. I agree with the noble idea of bringing manufacturing back, particularly pharmaceuticals and semi-conductors, but this is the dumbest fucking post I've ever seen by a migafag. Imagine believing a trade deficit means we need to IMMEDIATELY AND COMPLETELY apply a TAX on EVERYTHING we take from them. Look at those capitalized words and kneel, because that is what's happening right fucking now, and we are all going to suffer for it because you're so fucking stupid you never even developed your own ideas and just take every talking point you're given like a good little goy. The next 2 years? Literally your fault. I want you to remember that, it's your fucking fault. God help us all, this is the natural end result of the retardation of the average American. We've become consumerist whores who failed econ 101.

last time i checked china is fine, its america with pants on fire

heh now i pay even more money because the government takes 20%

Viets owned i guess? And yeah it is paper, they got dollars when we buy from them. We dont exchange cars for cars and baskets for mongolian baskets. If you want to solve the trade imbalance so bad then go sell your shit to viets (if they even want it) and get some vietnam ruble or whatever they use. While you are at it, make sure to solve your massive trade deficit with the grocery store.

I don't. The shit breaks after 1 use. But heres the thing... With tariffs it will force them to make better quality products. Because nobody is going to pay the same amount for complete dog shit that they would a superior American made product.

skulls for the skull throne

the vietnamese currency is called the "dong" i shit you not people pay each other in dongs

i think its pretty based getting ideas from platoon on trade policy

no they'll just cut corners even harder to save costs and you'll get even shitter quality goods for a higher price

Does he want Vietnam to import minerals from the US I don't get it

You said literally nothing you absolute retard.

this is going to create a new silver sink and opium war following....or maybe thats what it already is

Kek

This country that is 1/10th the size and 1/100th as rich doesn't buy much from us

Yeah no shit, and why is Trump also putting tariffs on countries that have trade SURPLUSES with us??

please orange nigga at least delay the tariff a bit so the dong can deflate and I can exchange my saving into bitcoin or some shit

luckily for Vietnam we're building factories to offer more services in the future, they can be early investors
or the Vietnam government can buy it instead and figure out how to sell it to their people
this isn't our problem, the tariff is permanent until satisfaction is met
there's no truth to anything you said, so there's no need for a rebuttal

Vietnamese people make like ten cents an hour. They aren't buying shit retard. There's no cultural barrier, there's no legal barrier, they cannot afford American products or services. That is it.

He wants tariffs. All claims about unfair trade practices and tariffs are just thrown out there to keep migapedes from asking questions. The ultimate goal is to abolish income taxes (which most Americans don’t pay) and rely on tariffs for funding. The last time the US government relied on tariffs from 1890-1913 they basically just funded the military and ran the postal service, that’s it. There will be no more neetbux so migapedes are gonna work 16 hour days for 6 days a week in sweatshops. No refunds migapedes.

i wont buy it, ill buy nice shit once instead of garbage once a year

Navaroo is a fucking kike

Then we should make things they want or could even afford in the first place.

You retards understand that we produce more than cars right? US make so much food, we have been sending onions, chicken, pork and beef to China in the BILLIONS in the last years since covid since they had to kill of millions of bird flu chickens, avian flu pork and animal feed (corn).

Do the vietnamese not eat chicken, pork and beef?Do they not use onions? Do they not feed their animals? I know they do, I'm vietnamese american. I've wanted to move back there to live for a year or two. Cost of living is so good there as a foreigner as the locals don't make much and everything is more inexpensive. As long as you can get a remote job, if you make an average US salary of 30-50k, you can live like a king. Compared to the shitty feminist entitled women in the US. Yes, I will get my passport brother.

Aren't they just a proxy to bypass tariffs for Chinese and other countries shit? If that doesn't get addressed then there really isn't a point in removing the tariffs.

Freeze out China. That's maybe the sole motivation for the entire thing.

dong inflation

Chink thread.
Vietnamese are the only Asians in this country that voted for Trump as a majority, as a "minority group" they are probably the most pro-Trump in the country.
All you have to do is be nice to him, Vietnam will be fine.

Do people not eat there you fucking retard? If they can't afford it, great. Stop sending and selling your shit to us then! Now it's fair.

I'm just going to ignore everything

You're all fucking bots. All of you, digital or biological it doesn't matter. You just dont fucking care at all and are incapable of thinking for yourselves or your own future. You've never had a significant thought in your life and just buy your talking points for free from your masters.

this is extortion, plain and simple. Nigga trump wants us to buy their stupid shit to fund his abolishment of the IRS. Nigga wants us to fund his gov.

Cost of living is so good there as a foreigner as the locals don't make much and everything is more inexpensive. As long as you can get a remote job, if you make an average US salary of 30-50k, you can live like a king

Cost of living is so good there as a foreigner as the locals don't make much and everything is more inexpensive.

the locals don't make much

I thought asians were supposed to be smart.

made in america is a slur synonymous with low quality high price garbage

average US salary of 30-50k

wait i was told by Anon Babble that the average american salary was $150k

To much money gets sent out of the USA to Vietnam. Usually family network, some illegal.

the other american nigga is right. We have our own chicken and beef here we don't need to buy from mutts. If you have been to vietnam you will see cows roaming the street eating grass out of public parks

This guy gets it. Vietnam is also a competitor to China as more and more companies want to build there for cheap labor and not deal with a supply crisis that happened during Covid. They are moving factories to Vietnam and India for cheap labor. So both will be the next "China" of manufacturing. I started noticing lots of dress shirts and clothing made in Vietnam the past decade. They do already do tons of manufacturing. I'm all for it as a vietnamese american. But that doesn't mean they should keep selling in the US market in the billions and buy nothing from the US or invest inside the US like Japan. If we don't ensure the US gets the upperhand now, it will only get worse as Vietnam will be the new China in a decade.

Those are South Vietnamese exiles that voted for him. Trump's going nuclear on the Northern ones now ruling Vietnam.

They are undergoing industrialization and still rely heavily on subsistence farming. They aren't importing shit and if they are it is going to be the cheapest gruel they can get ahold of.

trying this hard to bait

colorized negotiations circa 2025

ill buy nice shit once instead of garbage once a year

You would have done that in the first place if you weren't an absolute retard. Guess what? Now that nice shit is gonna go up because of the tariffs as well. Congrats

At a scale of 1 through 10 beaners start at a 1. There are no more corners for them to cut. Maybe they'll try to sell us empty boxes with the products picture on it.

Yes, the locals don't make much. Does that mean no owners of these factories make much too? Corporations and huge companies are all poor too right?

In 2023, the median annual wage for all U.S. workers was $48,060, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

US doesn't need Vietnam's huge clothing industry either! Look what Vietnam exports to the US. Phones, computers, electronics, textiles. So essentially those electronics are from US companies using Vietnam's cheap labor just like we do with China. You don't need our food, we don't need to let you send electronics and clothing back to the US either!

Jesus Christ is King.

Stop being a slave to Satan and pick up a Bible.

Only Christians will have eternal life.

All non-Christians shall perish.

Looks like they are fucked, then.

I understand Vietnam, our generals understood Vietnam very early on and knew there was no way in hell we were going to be able to prop up the south Vietnamese government.

You retards understand that we produce more than cars right? US make so much food

You retards understand that most locally produced food in vietnam is going to be cheaper than frankenfoods from retardland right? Why would they buy that shit? For the premium food or whatever the viets are too poor to buy much of it

sad but true. We've had a good run. Shit be fucked now.

TBQH the US spent a lot of money on Vietnam. They can definitely hang a chunk of the deficit on the Vietnam hook. And.. yeah make them pay for it why not?

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I prefer low cost instead of high cost, which is the only difference between china and america.
Of course the winning move is to choose Japan over either. They outcompeted the united states of israel so hard a few decades ago that the us government waged economic war to punish Japan for winning in the free market. Free markets for me but not for thee, goyim. Trump wants to use tarriffs to force countries to consume western globohomo propaganda products.

Blood for the Blood God.

You understand that:

Vietnam's industry still has a massive amount of state ownership

a handful of individual oligarchs aren't going to compare to the largest consumer base on the entire planet

companies already purchase capital goods and services from the US but have zero reason to purchase just random bullshit

There is no world where starving rice farmers, factory workers making 10 cents an hour, and a handful of oligarchs are going to match the American consumer base. You are retarded if you think that this is unfair. If anyone is getting screwed over in this equation, it isn't the people getting dirt cheap shoes.

these diaspora nigger are so fucking cringe

Yep, they'll end up working with China, undergo industrialization, and when they actually get to become a regional player while the US and China compete for the region, they are going to side with China every single fucking time. Meanwhile we extracted no benefit whatsoever because there is no world where America is competitive in labor intensive industries. Good going retard, you really showed those starving rice farmers.

welcome to the middle income trap club
you almost made it

those niggers literally have a self-proclaimed emperor, btw. He has zero connection to the former royal family. Nigga wasn't even part of the Nguyen clan.

Like others have said about Vietnam, they are going through industrialization. They will be the next China. Are you telling me, China can't afford our food, our tech stuff right now? Or are they all factory works still to you.

LONG TIME ME LOVE YOU!

before taxes, lol
with 52 weeks of work

Nah, it won't
The products are dog shit because importers like Walmart go to China or Vietnam or whatever and they say to the manufacturers over there "we want to buy this product but we are only willing to pay this amount", and the amount that they're willing to pay is so low that it's impossible to manufacture the product without cutting corners

come to my country, white man. Spend money on our whores. Now that's something trump can't tariff.

should have let us sink all those nigger boat back then

Aside from NOT being in his Cantor Fitzgerald WTC North Tower office on Sep 11, 2001, Trump's Commerce Sec. Howard Lutnick lived on the same street in NYC as Jeffery Epstein, the notorious sex trafficker & alleged Mossad Honeypot operator. Epstein's mansion at 9 71st & Lutnick's mansion at 11 71st. Next door neighbors, what a cohencidence! Lutnick acquired 11 East 71st Street in 1998 from the 11 East 71st Street Trust for a reported $7.6 million, based on real estate transfer tax records, though the deed lists the transaction as “$10 and other valuable consideration.” The property’s prior ownership ties back to entities associated with Leslie Wexner, Epstein’s mentor, but the sale to Lutnick predates Epstein’s formal ownership of 9 East 71st Street, which was transferred to him in 2011. This timeline suggests Lutnick’s purchase occurred before Epstein’s residence was exposed as a hub of sex trafficking. The unbelievable chutzpah! Howie involved in shady Tether Bonds etc, the SEC just stopped looking into. Weird huh. Now his two Sons are experts on blockchain deal$... you could call them real Stable Coin Geniuses! THEY are running the table on us & laughing about it.

Like others have said about Vietnam, they are going through industrialization. They will be the next China.

They will be the next China.

will be

First you don't understand you need money to purchase things, then you don't understand the flow of time. My opinion of the Vietnamese diaspora has tanked. China can buy things now because they are at the tail end of industrialization and are now trying to enter into tertiary industries while we seemingly attempt to become coal miners. Vietnam just started industrialization after liberal reforms (which we advised them to do BY THE WAY). So while China has an emerging middle class, Vietnam is still predominantly rice farmers and a few 10 cents an hour factory workers.

They're just a work-around for China. Chinese companies will just find ways to export their shit through Vietnam.

You make overpriced garbage that one one wants. How hard is that to understand?

Even the big cities in Vietnam are getting more expensive, because women still have to work in these cities. People from rural areas come to the big cities for work. Access to labor doubles because women work, women work and take on more masculine traits and become feminists. Turns into a shithole city like the ones in US.

If I were to move to Vietnam, it would be a smaller city like Nha Trang, Hoi An, Hue. Beach cities with foriegners then move into it's suburbs or villages outside of that city. Then you can have multiple babymamas. Only issue might be shit internet that could be rough for remote work.

what does this retard want then

Poor people, who make $200 USD a fucking YEAR, to somehow buy US Goods.
This cocksucker should be laughed out of Washington.

The average Vietnamese, with a $200 monthly income (GSO 2024), isn’t buying U.S. consumer goods, even at 0% tariffs.

200 buck may be outdated. I make 500 a month and I'm the bottom tier for my age in terms of income.

i cant even named american product i buy except mc donald and kfc
most car here are japs
most phone here are korean or chinese
most random eletronics and appliance are all japs/korean/chinese/other SEA
most machinery are chink and japs

they can start working off some of those 90%+ tariffs they've had going for a while.

we have the same salary
we both poor as shit

TPP is supposed to form a free trade zone

torpedo'd

Trade war time!

we demand... a FREE TRADE ZONE!!!

okay, we'll do free trade no tariffs

not good enough, we expect rice farmers to purchase the all new Chevy Silverado with best in class towing!

I would use a huawei phone and drive a kei truck if I could but the us government wants us to be forced to use globohomo products that also spy on us.

Yes.

Time to invade vietnam again, this time we have black hawks and F15s, good luck with that jungle monkeys...

i cant even named american product i buy except mc donald and kfc

Same here. And I barely even eat that shit anymore, there's so much other better local food available. It's funny how these migatards are so arrogant when america is an irrelevant shithole in 2025

didnt u use all product in mag7 except
tsla ana amzn?

Antagonising Vietnam always ends well...
If you retards want to play hide the punji stake in the jungle again you're on your own. We'll take your combat pay from your blokes on leave though. Plenty of gay bars in Sydney for them to spend it at.

NO FUCK THAT SHIT I WANT MY VIET WAIFU

Its too late, i love you long time.

Like some have said, the Vietnamese GOVERNMENT owns most of the things because they are communist still. So I am going to need you guys to stop focusing on the poor people of Vietnam. Are there not poor Chinese factory workers? And yet their GOVERNMENT can surely afford to buy from other countries. Are you saying China's GOVERNMENT is POOR? Are you saying Vietnam's GOVERNMENT is poor?

hanoitimes.vn/number-of-ultra-rich-in-vietnam-set-to-surge-in-next-5-years-316524.html

Number of ultra-rich in Vietnam set to surge in next 5 years

Vietnam is expected to have 511 individuals with a total net worth of over US$30 million by 2025, or an increase of 31%.

While the number of ultra-rich people in Vietnam slightly went down in 2020 as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic, the country is set to be among the world’s top five countries with the fastest growing rate of people with ultra-high net worth, according to 2021 Wealth Report by Knight Frank.

They have millionaires opening up factories and businesses that are shipping their products to the US. That's the trade imbalance we're discussing. Not the average Chinese working making slave wages or the average Vietnamese worker making a few hundred a month. Their GOVERNMENT better start buying US or we can close them down altogether because we don't need their cheap phones, cheap computers, cheap clothing products either.

Thanks for the anecdote.
Effectively speaking, you still can't afford much in the form of US products,that wouldn't require a multi-year plan to save up for.

WHat's the man of the street saying there about this nonsensical attack?

meatwaves

I want to use my meatwand on your little China dolls, long time

>not good enough, we expect rice farmers to purchase the all new Chevy Silverado with best in class towing!

Man, this was awesome.
Thanks for the perfect juxtaposition.

youtu.be/md_WfmSYAuQ

Exhibit A of a migatard right here lol

Some bong put it best - liberals are morons because they're liberals. Conservatives are morons because they're morons

Don't know if you understand this, but 511 people isn't going to put a dent into the trade deficit of 110,000,000,000. And their government is dirt broke because they have no tax base because... their economy is mostly rice farmers. Their tax revenue is around 65 billion USD. So they'd enter a death spiral if they tried to pay for 110 billion USD worth of Chevy Silverados with best in class towing. You MIGAniggers are retarded beyond belief.

fake. I live there. The average Viet was brainwashed on nationalist propaganda before they could talk. My earliest memory is being taken to war museums by the kindergarten to see mutt tanks and planes.

based based based

1 buck for a typical meal. 2 and above if you want fancy shit.

We're already building tons of semi conductor factories (in case Taiwan is invaded and has to blow up their factories). You don't think we can make other computer and phone components and put computers together? You don't think women can fucking learn to crochet and knit clothing? If it's not beneficial to the US, fuck them. Full ban of all imports from that country. The fact is Vietnam isn't China YET but we want to set precedence on our future trade. They already manufacture tons of stuff and sell in the US market. We shouldn't let these other countries who put tariffs on our goods for decades without a President with enough balls to hit back. Fairness is zero tariffs and some kind of trade balance or your shouldn't have any access to our market (of consoomers). Simple AS.

The most painful part was that we had finally begun making in-roads with you. You guys began to embrace liberalization little by little while the heat with China was ticking up. We were this close to the true "McDonald's in Hanoi" meme. The head of the Communist Party of Vietnam literally had to explain free trade to the Leader of the Free World. It's insane. This entire thing is a fever dream.

All the more reason to destroy you. You are inferior to America, and people like me who have a landscaper (aka paid servant) and a housekeeper to clean my house, I earn more money in a year than you have in your entire life...you are pretending you could take us on again, this time in a prepared fair fight.

Good luck with that....as I said, throw your meat shields all you want, China or no, we have serious munitions on the table.

Thank for showing us your retardation. Literally said nothing with no rebuttal but name calling retard.

Again you keep on using idiotic generalizations that they are all rice famers and the only thing the US has to offer is shitty cars. Too retarded.

you are unbelievably fucking retarded

Shut up anon.

McDonald is already in Vietnam and it flops, my nigga. You can't compete with Banh Mi. 1/5 the price for twice the deliciousness.

was brainwashed on nationalist propaganda

It's either that or you get brainwashed by lgbt-tranny-"democracy" bullshit by usaid ngos. Which do you think is better for the vietnamese people?

hurr durr you're retarded

no rebuttal needed

Fuck you retard.

You don't think women can fucking learn to crochet and knit clothing?

Nobody wants to make Nike shoes. I don't know how this isn't obvious, but crocheting you own shit is a massive decrease in quality of life as we all have to waste our time crotcheting fucking sweaters instead of buying them for roughly 30 minutes of labor.

Fairness is zero tariffs

We had multiple opportunities to get zero tariffs

and some kind of trade balance

Literally not possible, you are just repeating yourself. THEY ARE FUCKING DIRT FARMERS. THEY MAKE 10 CENTS AN HOUR. THERE IS NO WORLD WHERE THEY BUY MORE THAN THE LARGEST CONSUMER BASE IN THE WORLD.

I'm paying more for things I need. So much winning! Thank you, President Trump!

Exhibit A of a migatard right here lol

Kek, indeed.
The Creators of the imbalances, the Beneficiaries of the imbalances, now suddenly rage against them.

That's some 9/11 controlled demolition shit right there.
BAILOUTS COMING for hedge funds!

See, other nations have an adapted menu in Mcdonald's to please the locals. Also in America, whatever the fuck that bah ming shit you said...we call those sub sandwhiches...wow you recreated the sub!

Dumb fucks I will piss in the vietnam skull my grandaddy has in his war chest because I hate you insufferable egotistic cunts. How can you live with yourself? How do people stand you? I cant stand you, toxic ass personality I fucking hate you even

We feel that way about McDonald’s too but it would be Wendy’s for me.

Donkey meme flag mad? Good.

Again you keep on using idiotic generalizations that they are all rice famers

Half of their economy is in agriculture because subsistence farming is still a massive proportion of their labor. This isn't a generalization, they literally are mostly rice farmers with cows grazing off the side of the road and shit. These are not people that purchase international goods.

the only thing the US has to offer is shitty cars.

Actually fantastic point! You know what we do offer! We offer two big things. One, services! We have a service economy. Not included in trade deficit calculations. Two, capital goods! You know, factory parts, we sell loads of that shit. You know what would help us sell more? Promoting Vietnamese industrialization, which is why we were doing it. Neither of these would have put a dent in the trade deficit for different reasons. But everything else we have is superfluous in the Vietnamese economy.

When I hear you're countries name this is what I think of...a rapper and broke ass poor brown people

youtube.com/watch?v=8CKuWPRq2Ps

It's a turn of phrase referencing the idea that we lost the Vietnam War but we could still convert you to capitalism due to its innate superiority.

MANIFEST DESTINY
THE WORLD IS OURS, GET FUCKED

rude

you are pretending you could take us on again, this time in a prepared fair fight.

Good luck with that....as I said, throw your meat shields all you want, China or no, we have serious munitions on the table.

What was unfair about it last time? They didn't let us win?

Trump should demand for -20% tariff.

Sorry you started it, I protect the ego and reputation of the USA

Whatever dude im done with this thread, all negative bullshit. Get a life

that you already did. We have been pseudo-capitalist since 1986 after you sanctioned the shit out of us. Turned out the whole vietnam war was pointless. All you gotta do was sanction the shit out of us.

zimbabwe is now ready to buy 200 million dollar worth of ford f150
rejoice
each zimbabwe citizen own hundreds of million zimbabwean dollar

That's great.
Care to comment upon the topic, Chaim?

ART OF THE DEAL

America can't afford anything either!
SHANIQUA IS ON WELFARE WITH HER 15 BABIES!
ILLEGAL ARMANDO PICKS FRUITS HE CAN"T AFFORD SHIT
CHAD AND STACY ALL HAVE THOUSANDS IN CREDIT CARD DEBT

i can be a retard with stereotypes too

some kind of trade balance means EQUAL

200 Million

We rollin' n sheit!
Wait, that's only like 2000 units in total ($100K a piece, out da door!)

Exactly, and we had begun to develop warm relations with you as a result of your own terse relations with China. There was natural alignment and we pissed it all away. Because we wanted to manufacture Nike shoes.
Except we can, which is why we have a trade deficit. And now we are shifting to trade balance. Okay, so what level of deficit is acceptable with a country of Vietnam's size? Cut it in half? To a quarter? How about we ask ourselves why we even want to cut it at all. We do not want to manufacture fucking Nike shoes. Let some broke Vietnamese guy do it while attaining a better quality of life overall because he is less likely to starve as a result of a bad typhoon. And we get cheap shoes that we clearly want because we buy them (before you start saying muh quality)

America can't afford anything either!

Congratulations.
You've apparently ONLY NOW just learned that 50% of America lives paycheck to paycheck and that revolving credit has been the unspoken subsidy for people just to fucking survive.

50% of America lives paycheck to paycheck because most Americans are retarded. The image of "paycheck-to-paycheck" conjures up the idea of someone who is flat broke. In reality, you can own two cars and a massive home and still be "paycheck-to-paycheck". Americans are not poor, the American middle class is just hilariously financially irresponsible then bitches about it constantly.

So now that importing goods is prohibitively expensive how long until American megacorps begin importing third worlders en masse to work for third world wage in America? I know Musk would fuck the face of anyone who says no to this

50% of America lives paycheck to paycheck because most Americans are retarded.

intellectually dishonest piece of shit, Detected.

We're done here.

It's true whether you like it or not. The intellectually dishonest thing is to invoke paycheck-to-paycheck to imply Americans can't buy shit.

You literally quoted me saying "some kind of trade balance". Now you're going to backpedal on that? Most countries aren't on our level so 90% of these countries cannot do an EQUAL trade balance. So duh. Some is getting closer to it not equal. Also speak for yourself. That's like saying we wouldn't want to work in a SemiConductor Factory like I sadi here We want to bring manufacturing back because the same retards tell us we don't make anything. You don't think the homeless, poor people already working warehouse jobs, people collecting welfare wouldn't work these jobs? It's called OPTIONS and CHOICE. Companies should be competing for our labor. But they aren't because we shipped all the labor and manufacturing jobs away. Just because you wouldn't work a blue collar job or work in an Amazon warehouse doesn't mean there aren't hundreds of thousands CURRENTLY working these jobs. And if you think they are poor working conditions, then all the more you should be pushing for MORE options for them. Such small mindets.

Literally using your argument against you guys.
They're all rice farmers! We're all on welfare or in debt.
Keep making idiotic stereotypes.
There are plenty of people who don't live paycheck to paycheck.
Just focus in and get tunnel vision to make your point.

Paycheck to paycheck but they have an expensive phone, a working refrigerator, a fucking expensive new car. Oh don't forget they need their $7 starbucks every morning. Their bad choices don't mean they are in poverty. They chose to take on expensive mortgages, expensive car loans.

Literally using your argument against you guys.

Huh? Does your brain hurt?
Here, I'll help you.
There is no comparison between the average Vietnamese and the average American.

The average Vietnamese does not have access to Credit, nor the means to service any Debt.

The average American WILL have access to some type of Credit, Payday loan or Layaway plan, and thus can make some level of Purchasing (and debt servicing) from within this group of Goods.
His wage, although relatively low by US standards, is still MILES above the average Vietnamese

There is NO comparison.

Tariffs are irrelevant, if Trump cared about us he'd make offshoring of customer support, IT, and white collar jobs FULLY ILLEGAL. There is no reason when I call my insurance company, a pajeet in India answers and has all of my medical data. That should be highly illegal.

There's not a ton we can do about manufacturing, if anything we should try to specialize in a few sectors like the chip manufacturing, but CURRENTLY white collar jobs are en masse being offshored to India or taken by H1B. Trump won't do anything, and even encouraged it, with JD the fat jeetfucker whispering in his ear to bring in as many poos as possible

Okay, what is the ideal trade balance? That's my question. As for the rest of your rant, if you actually want to improve the lives of these people here's what you should do:

Subsidies subsidies subsidies combined with enticing foreign investment, this strategy allows you to build up an industry through targeted means, lets that industry remain internationally competitive, and doesn't dent the economy.

education investment. Our objective shouldn't be to put warehouse workers into another warehouse, it should be to bring them to the 21st century

building a functional social safety net because the fact of the matter is that this is the 21st century, there will be people that lag behind in the tumult

I don't agree with targeted tariffs, but at the very least they'd be better than blanket ones, which are NOT going to promote job growth, as increased prices for economic inputs makes other industries uncompetitive and there is no promise that manufacturing will return within a reasonable time frame if at all. Not to mention, the impending recession we have right now. Trump's tariff policy is THE MOST RETARDED approach you could take. At least targeted tariffs make some sense, even if they introduce blatant inefficiencies and damage competitiveness. Blanket tariffs legitimately help nobody.

when I call my insurance company, a pajeet in India answers and has all of my medical data. That should be highly illegal.

wait that happen irl?
my sympathy

There is no reason when I call my insurance company, a pajeet in India answers and has all of my medical data.

An entire subcontinent of grifters.

Yes and then they sell the private data to other jeets who use it to scam. Elderly get daily phone calls "Saar I am an official company representative, here is all your info to confirm this is your account, you owe a $1000 fine" and if they can tell the person is old/ retarded they do the "Kindly go to the store and buy 10 Apple gift cards by the end of today or you will go to jail"

Okay, what is the ideal trade balance?

It's a moot point really.
The last 40 to 50 years was spent by deliberately crafting a completely ASYMMETRICAL industrial capacity solely for US corporations to exploit Labor (to arbitrage maximum profit).
Snapping your fingers doesn't unwind that nor does TORPEDOING the existing supply chains from A to fucking Z.
Moot point in totality.

On paper, however, the system designed by Keynes for Bretton Woods (and summarily rejected by the US) would have included
NO RESERVE CURRENCY
Self-correcting mechanisms baked into the Clearing House for trade.

Your Homework assignment:
Bancor
International Clearing Union

Sorry, I'm out of energy for the Goldbug schizophrenia right now.

unironically the entire subcontinent of subhuman pajeet should be nuke of the face of this planet

You guys are such mooks. The problem isn't the individual Vietnamese/Mexican/Canadian/etc consumers. The problem is the COMPANIES using those countries as a base to manufacture and then abuse the trade agreements with USA. Anyone who thinks the goal is to sell Ford F350s to Japan is a nincompoop.

What exactly is the goal

I'm patiently waiting for them to get in a war with Pakistan

No slave labor

Reduce dependence and raise revenue, duh.

Practically speaking they can through subsidies and negative tariffs. Also the government can just buy stuff directly. Buy a bunch of F-16s America is replacing and replace your entire mechanized corps with Abrams and Bradleys.

Goldbug

I'm not a Goldbug, mate.
I'm for Greenbacks

You can piss off if you reply (oh, so MMT)
Early Milton Friedman was an advocate for MMT, btw

Until the late 1940s

or early 1950s Friedman believed that fiscal policy should be the primary tool of government
policy in macroeconomic stabilisation – the management of real GDP growth and inflation.

You could just not sell to American markets. Point being if you just want to steal our industry get fucked.

Vietnamese vagina is pretty great we shouldn't fucked with them, Chinese are hot but they're whores. Koreans are our bitches and I love them for that. Japanese are their own thing but better than all of them.

a fucking thank you is a start

Japanese companies like Toyota have promised BILLIONS in building new car plants in the US

Companies do that all the tine to earn good boi points and then don't follow through when everyone has forgotten about it.

the gubmint own everything bc gommunism

also there are many domestic millionaires allowed to invest in the economy

That doesn't make sense.

Why are we screwing over the only "communist" country that loves us, even though we bombed them repeatedly 60 years ago?

This is the dumbest allegory ever because your job has a massive trade deficit with you. The whole comparison falls apart when you notice America had trade deficits across the board so money is flowing out of America but no money is flowing into America.

It's as if you have no job but buy more shit than anyone else in town by just having 30 credit cards and getting new credit cards to pay off old credit cards.

Fairness is zero tariffs and some kind of trade balance or your shouldn't have any access to our market (of consoomers). Simple AS.

But that's literally communism!

Let me make it more simple

Yes, in Vietnam, the state, on behalf of the people, owns all land, and individuals and businesses have the right to use land, but not to own it outright, through Land Use Rights (LURs)

Vietnam has a significant state-owned enterprise (SOE) sector, including major corporations like Viettel Group, Vietnam Oil and Gas Group (PVN), and Electricity of Vietnam (EVN) Group, among others, which play a crucial role in the Vietnamese economy.

No, they don't own EVERYTHING but many things such as land and industries are government owned. Yes millionaires come in and invest with their own businesses. Again this is not about the poor and the rice farmers just like it's not about Shaniqua or Armando.

My old Toyota is made in the US. I would have preferred it made in Japan because they have better standards but at least it creates jobs in the US. Toyota also makes cars in Mexico and Canada and ships them into the US by passing our tariffs as well. Now they they have committed millions if not billions to the US, they will make more factories and make more cars here in the US and hire Americans. The tariffs on Canada and Mexico helps them from cheating and making their cars in our neighboring countries only to import them into the US. They have followed through, they have Toyota car making factories. Even their Japanese bank Softbank has committed to 100 BILLION investment in the US. Japan is literally our best economic ally, which is why they are the first ones we're dealing with on tariffs.

Pol Pot was right about the Vietnamese

ok ausie, we forgive you for joining us in VN war for posts like this.

Sounds like we need an expert in bankruptcy to solve this obvious issue. A guy who has survived eleven of them and fucked over debtors in the process, because that’s the unfortunate reality.

Effectively speaking, you still can't afford much in the form of US products,that wouldn't require a multi-year plan to save up for.

what mutt products? we purchase chinese shits here.

that shrimp scandal at red lobster thats bankrupting them.

that is NOT why they went bankrupt.
educate yourself.

Omfg who gives a fuck about Vietnam? Wtf lmao!?

Pay up, bitch

Only issue might be shit internet that could be rough for remote work.

if you pay for the business internet plan (around 50~100 bucks) you will have privileged network, thus ensure you to have stable connection even when the undersea cables are all disconnected.

or you can just pay for some VPN, and enjoy the full speed your internet plan offers (600Mbps~1Gbps).

We want less of their products. We know they won't buy more from us, so we'll just buy less from them.

It's really simple, you faggots will learn soon. This is the best timline.

It is fascinating. I refuse to believe there are that retarded people out there who can sustain themselves daily.

The reason why they said it wasn't good enough is because China has established massive manufacturing hubs in Vietnam. The fact that not a single person in this thread realises that demonstrates that you are all irredeemable faggot cuck losers with a room temperature IQ.

cows are in the fucking highways.

some animals here have better lives than their fellow races in US.

It's a leaf.

They keep moving the goal posts. Hopefully this serves as an example to other countries that are considering capitulation to gain favor. You aren't deal with honest or reasonable people here.

Honestly this is a great, if it wasn't why would all the thirdies be seething ITT?

You aren't deal with honest or reasonable people here.

As opposed to who? It's not like China is making honest and reasonable trade deals.

why would all the thirdies be seething ITT?

This.

The reason why they said it wasn't good enough is because China has established massive manufacturing hubs in Vietnam.

Admitting to that would open up a whole can of worms on the home front.

Uhh guys? Retiring to Vietnam was my plan. Does this interfere with that coming to fruition?

qt viet girls for incels like me!

so what? we have manufacturing hubs for 100+ countries right now.

that's not a fucking problem, it's always just pretext.

trump just wants more money, either giving to us so he wins some lulz, or directly into his bank account.

don't you know that trump is building a golf course and a hotel in vietnam? he sure will demand us for building it for free for him. and some other underhand deals that bring nothing to the us tax payers

Free gibs.

spend 30 years trying to repair relations with Vietnam and turn it into an outpost of Americanism with sweat shops producing cheap American products, McDonald's in Saigon, and Hanoi Hilton (no, not the one McCain stayed in)

ruin it

What did Donnie mean by this?

They're pretty much a Chinese drop shipper. They make a few things pretty well but with foreign ownership. Mostly China and Japan. They are Nike's larger manufacturers. They really don't like China but have been forced by economic necessity for a long time by the policies that the tariffs are trying to reverse to deal with them.

VIETNAMESE FUCKING SHITS

As opposed to who?

That's the point nigger.
Everyone knew china is trading like mob leader, as well as russia. The us was seen as the good guy, at least in the plebs, only the people in the back rooms knew the truth.
Now it is out in the open, and furthermore, the us became more lunatic than the others. It's like funding out your cool uncle has been fucking your sister the whole time and now he want to do it during the Christmas party on the dinner table.
There is no going back at this point

This is a reasonable assessment.
Trump is notorious for destroying the competition through unconventional means on any deal he makes. Just look how he bought his resort palace in Florida.

I still think it's a better deal for Vietnam and the rest of the world to pivot towards American commerce than whatever the "multi-polar" BRICS nations are offering.
People trying to explain that the U.S. has underhanded business deals is laughable when compared to what BRICS nations do to a country.

sister-fucking analogy

real hungarian hours

Maybe Europe should pay for nato.

This

The complex magaysian mind at work here folx. Be quiet and listen, this creature can be entertaining.

On September 19, 2024, McDonald's Ben Thanh in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) closed after a 10-year journey, marking the end of its operations at that location.

They closed their main mcdonalds locations that has been there for 10+ years. Yeah there are still other mcdonalds in Vietnam but that closing is a threat to the US diplomacy! I think the lease was getting too expensive for such a prime location but still. The government should have stepped in since they fucking own the lands anyways.

A cheeseburger from McDonald's in times Square cost what? Like $40 dollars? Nobody in Vietnam is going to pay $40 american dollars for a McDonald's cheeseburger.

Shut the fuck up you faggot communist. Your entire country needs to be firebombed into oblivion and your women enslaved. It's how the Vietnam war was should have ended. Fuck off and die Nguyenbussy.

TO BE FAIR Vietnam is a currency manipulator, it's an export driven - window guided - system, the same Chinese model.

Nothing ever happens

No you shut the fuck up.
You shouldn't be talking New Zealand.

In terms of nominal GDP, Vietnam's economy is larger than New Zealand's, with Vietnam's GDP estimated at $506.43 billion in 2025, while New Zealand's is at $262.92 billion

Their economy is bigger than your shit little island off Australia. Shush.

Trump wants Vietnam to stop playing fucky/sucky with China and helping them to get around our tariffs.

Cry harder commie sympathizer, you lost.