Do something

Well, we're the only other country producing some of those rare earths. If we sell them to the yanks are they going to throw a wobbly like they did with our beef?

Why would they want to support someone stabbing them in the back? Seems perfectly sensible to cut the tap.

We wuz juss defending ourselves

Hop off xi's cock kraut

does nothing

wins

no one in ziggerland gives a shit about these sanctions and tariffs anymore
China will now learn the lesson that they need to cut-off the jewnited snakes of israel from their economy

when did China insist on being obeyed?
That was Trump.

But are we the only country that CAN produce them?

every time America does something in its own personal interest

I don't recall China restricting all exports of rare earths when America tariffed Chinese steel or cucked their semiconductor sector. Putting in place a blanket tariff like a retard is something else.

that's actually pretty funny

FILL YOUR HAND YOU SON OF A BITCH BASTERD

Last time I looked at a map, the USA was size of a continent and had bog ass mountains.
You sure can find every element in the periodic table on your territory if you PUT IN THE WORK and look for it, can't you?
Your hate for Mexico, Europe, Japan, South Korea and China is just envy because you have got so lazy that you are outcompeted by everyone.
The "national security issue" is real but it can be easily solved by just PUTTING IN THE WORK TO DO THINGS YOURSELF instead of putting the blame on others.

Same logic for America m8e

Not for long
reuters.com/article/us-usa-rareearths-texas-mineral-resource/texas-rare-earths-mine-developers-to-build-u-s-refinery-idUSKBN1YK1Q9/

poke bear.

get attacked

"You see!"

*dies*

They've been doing that for a while now, the Satanic States of the Synagogue was less than 8% of Chinese exports.

They want America to obey their directive to lower the tariffs you brainlet

Doubt it, seems like Trump wants to be completely mineral dependant which is why I imagine he wants Greenland.

Seems like they're acting in the own interests. If that constitutes betrayal in the eyes of the Chinese then again they can't be relied upon because there are numerous reasons they could cut off those exports, like global shortages or war.

Exactly

We're the only ones that DO. That's the point. The yanks had a company called Molycorp that folded years ago that were refining rare earths, but they didn't mine them in the US.

Yes, so long as we have a trade surplus to the tune of hundreds of billions every year, we'll give you some minerals.

Why would Americans ever not feel comfortable with this deal.

HEELP

AMERICA IS OPPRESSING ME BY NOT BUYING MY STUFF

lmao

Wow major twatter L for China. How will they ever recover?

This is Trump-style deal making.
I'm sure he appreciates it.

America is free to act in its interests just like China is. This just establishes that their interests will not always be mutual and as such China can't be relied on.

things cannot change

Imagine if you will, for a moment, if things changed.

trading just fine one minute

one party suddenly starts acting against you

decide to trade less as a result

hostile actor: "you proved me right"

kek

Analogy doesn't work in this scenario, Muhammad O'Flannery.

America will find out that Xi's cock was its life support very soon

Be hostile to your trade partners

they know longer want to trade with you.

who could have seen this coming?!

Are you talking about a very specific rare earth metal or just in general?

trading just fine

For whom?

Niggerloving White trash fag enabler. Death to America

He does, that's why he is moving to take away their cards you retard.

My city is already China Two.

very soon

How soon exactly?

They need China's stuff and don't have another good reliable source.

ONLY CHANG FINNA DIE

ESCALATION IS VERY SIMPLE IT LEADS TO KINETIC WAR

AMERICA WINS

trade partners

china wuz good boiz

Lol

They have the raw materials. Worth more than Trump cards IMO.

need

We'll figure it out, again

Like 95% of our active pharmaceutical ingredients come from China. They're the largest steel exporter in the world like 4 times over. You are stupid if you think you can compete with an industrial behemoth as a floundering service economy. The vindication is going to be so sweet

I like China way more than Australia.

That's why trump is moving towards sourcing that stuff from within or other non-hostile sources.
Xi just proved his choice correct.

For both. The trade deficit was what maintained the dollar as the world reserve currency because countries that trade in it then have to do something with it, which ends up back in the US economy through investments and bond buys, which China was actively doing until muttlards started chimping out by equating surpluses with wins and deficits with losses (like toddlers). This is economics 101.

Even when the US was refining rare earths, they didn't mine them in the US. I don't even know if they have them in the ground.

And building a refinary to operational status takes about 2 years. If they started building one now, they will still need to buy them from somewhere else in the meantime.

Look at Intel. They started building a chip fab plant on US soil like over a year ago, to reduce dependence on Taiwan, so they can go full Ukraine on them and let China fuck them. But that US plant is still a way off actually being able to produce chips.

Which is more secure. Owning a home or hoping your landlord doesn't decide to increase your rent?

There are no other significant sources that can meet demand, dumbass

That's why trump is working towards procuring their own raw materials you retard.

self defense is hostility

oh bongs...

China wasn't hostile until Trump started his trade war though. Trump is the hostile party, the instigator.

You're assuming that someone who works at Walmart can own their own home. That's essentially the situation here. A walmart store manager wants to own a mansion.

Rare earths aren't rare retards

For both.

But it wasn't really, was it?

Attacks a US ally or interferes in an election

OH Don't comprain whitey, or you roose access to our precio metter

This is why I hate fucking retards that conflate economy of scale, with the financial sector. They will literally get you killed through their retardation.
RIP Europoors btw, enjoy learning how China treats when they don't need you anymore.

I think that's why that news story about the asteroid rich in minerals was planted in the news cycle

Don't worry! Musk will lasso that asteroid and reel it down to earth. Just give him two weeks!

Go look at all of the things China exports you stupid faggot. They are the dominant economy in the world for lots of things. Steel, aluminum, etc. And now the USA won't be getting cheap potash from Canada, so you can kiss US agriculture goodbye.

Neodymium and Praseodymium
Lanthanum
Cerium

Lynas Rare Earths was established as an ethical and environmentally responsible producer of rare earth materials and is the world’s only significant producer of separated rare earth materials outside of China.

The Lynas Mt Weld mine in Western Australia is acknowledged as one of the world’s premier rare earths deposits. Lynas also operates the world’s largest single rare earths processing plant in Malaysia where it produces high-quality separated rare earth materials for export to manufacturing markets in Asia, Europe and the United States.

CHYNA HAS BEEN ATTACKING AMERICA ALL DAY EVERY DAY

CHYNA DOESNT HAVE THE CARDS ONCE PUSH COMES TO SHOVE

Yeah ok retard.

what is IP theft

what is copyright infringement

what is CCP trade barriers

"china wuz good boiz"

the only reason they are like that IS BECAUSE WE LET IT YOU FUCKTARD!!!! Back in the 50s America manufactured everything because half the fucking world was bombed out. We can take back almost all of these markets by simply deciding to. Sure, costs will go up but so will quality and opportunities for Americans.

All things which the U.S is capable of producing themselves

not implying china is perfect, far from it.
but Trump is supposedly the master of the art of the deal how did he not see that pissing off their trade alliances would mean those people no longer want to trade with America?
If they dont need these rare earth minerals then fine they'll have to start harvesting it themselves, if they cant then he didnt hold the cards he thought he did and he shouldn't have made such retarded bombastic attacks.

Yeah, and the ship has sailed you fucking mental child. You don't just poof manufacturing back into existence. The conditions for it no longer exist and can't exist, because we will never be able to compete with China's low prices for export.

thailand

Why are you posting that picture when (You) are the one who looks like a monkey?

What the FUCK is wrong with that dude's eyes?! Demonic possession??

If you've stopped believing in competitive advantages and just want to make everything in-house, that's fine if you can stick with it. Just don't be surprised if other countries keep trading with each other and you become North Korea.

I'll leave you to read over my post again since you seem to have stalled.

Wrong. You retards are pissing away all of the right's political and social capital on a fantasy that will never materialize. You stupid fucking faggots

It's too late and over for everyone but China

Nah.

Potash

Brazil needs potash.
Another kind of retard I fucking hate being around.
YOUR AGRICULTURE IS NOT OUR AGRICULTURE
YOU USE POTASH TO BE ABLE TO GROW FOOD
WE USE POTASH TO BOOST YEILDS
We are not the same. Our land, given our vast Volcanic regions are extremely arable.

They indeed do, my friend. Just a minor issue with those deposits though. It costs too much to extract. Think of the profit margin.

Ever heard of the dustbowl you stupid retard? You DO NEED POTASH. We grow wheat, not fucking rice moron.

Rare earths aren't rare retards

There's only two countries on earth you can buy them from right now. You won't be producing them for a couple of years even if you decided to start working towards that right now today.

you can kiss US agriculture goodbye

Muh dustbowl

We used Aquifers and tree breaks turbo tard.
Neck yourself.

the USA is so incredibly rich in natural resources and has enough high quality white genetic stock to function completely independently from the rest of the planet. the time the USA had protectionist policies and manufactured products at home was the wealthiest time for Americans.
Maybe the world has changed and that can't be replicated, but the idea that you have to engage in free trade with a nation employing slave labor or you become north korea is a nonsense premise

Trump is the guy saying "we shouldn't rely on China for essential shit".
It doesn't hurt him if China cuts off essential shit to spite him, it strengthens his position within american politics.

trump won

he just did okay!?

lmao cope

Chinks are retarded

Ok retard

I'll leave you to read over my post again since you seem to have stalled.

I read it. It's supposedly mutually beneficial all whilst it weakens their own country, strengthens their greatest competitor. If it's a symbiotic relationship China needs the US a lot more than vice versa which is why they're seething now. US might have short term pain due to restricted trading with China but long term they'll be fine. How about the inverse?

China wasn't hostile until Trump started his trade war though

Sending spies, drones, and hackers to the US isn't hostile?

cheap potash

And who buys that agricultural product that will now go up in price due to input costs rising?

Or we just let China and the United States nuke each other off the fucking Earth. There’s no other option. Both countries need to fucking go.

So we can just shut off your critical imports just by slapping a tax on China and you're okay with that. Hot damn, we'll just keep fucking you into the ground by charging China fees so they can take it out on you. What an actual bitch you are, just gonna take it hot and raw. You can't even retaliate because we'll just charge China a fee and they'll ram it in your ass again.

It isn't about "work" - tapping other nations natural resources means that when you all run out, we still have plenty. Many people were convinced that oil was going to be long gone by 2020, after which we'd start tapping our own while the rest of the world suffered. The model for this is Europe, which has to import virtually everything at this point due to the land being exploited for so long.

The US uses global resources because they will factually become hard to acquire one day, and when that day comes, the US has barely tapped anything at all.

This, although a normal person would have sourced the alternative first. Trump just gives no fucks.

go back to china, chang.

The trade deficit was what maintained the dollar as the world reserve currency

Well if they didn't wouldn't you just say they were too scared to cut the tap?
You're talking to people who legitimately believe we're getting raped up the ass by Fiji and think Nips don't buy our cars because of a personal vendetta against us because of WW2 or something.
I grow tired of the insane doublethink on Anon Babble inbetween the people saying that this is a grand plan to crash the market to reduce interest rates (not to mention the people pushing literal communist rhetoric about reducing consumption for the state and crying about capitalism) OR people who think people are whining about nothing and we'll all be green
There's an easy straight arrow through all the bullshit - And that's for people on this board to put their money where their mouth is. Either go long or short the stock market hard and reinvest the money on who you think is going to win out over this. Hell, even polymarket has bets people can make about stocks or inflation rates.

>I-if you defend yourself, that just retroactively validates everything I did

The reasoning of a woman

There is a different between not trading and shoring up domestic production. Say you get all your oil from a country that gets in a war with someone and they stop trading because they need it. What do you think happens to you?

You don't understand magat. Timmy needs that $999 iphone assembled by 5yos in china or he will burn down a mcdonalds in protest for black on black crime. You've been fucking warned.

What a fucking retard
China strong-arms the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD to withhold recognition of Taiwan's sovereignty and independence. China has always used economic pressure to achieve its global power goals.

It doesn't hurt him that americans will suffer economically because of his actions, they'll be grateful to not have any of the necessary infrastructure in place first before he killed every trade alliance America had.
Brilliant, true art of the deal.

slave labor

Robots aren't slaves, they're just machines.

China needs to US a lot more than vice versa

China is far better prepared to weather this than the US, even better than Russia which weathered full sanctions from not just the US but its allies. Not needing to rely on an election cycle will also help, while the US public is completely divided. And again, US allies aren't tariffing China.

All of these point to the US being outmaneuvered, plain and simple. They didn't expect China to retaliate and now they're flailing.

Maybe Chyna will buy it so they can produce enough food to feed their serfs.

If that's Hostile than America is extremely hostile to most countries around the world, including it's allies.

China #0

Shoring up domestic production is sound, this shotgun shit without a plan is just going to blow up your faces since you haven't even allocated the necessary federal budget needed to shore up those industries you're trying to reshore. Not to mention Trump's own advisor admits they're not bringing back jobs, the plan is just to automate.

Your working and middle classes get further squeezed and you're cheering it on like a cultist.

tbqh I fully expect Trump to just straight up acknowledge Taiwan being a country in the next month but at that point it'd be if Taiwan "accepts" the title instead of doing vague asian shit to dodge it for now

It's a trade war now. Trump initiated it, China responded, Trump escalated it, and china is responding again, but also punishing Americas allies. It's good move, will turn people against Trump. you should hope Trump would make similar moves if subjected to a trade war.

Americans were already suffering economically lmao
Yeah if an alcoholic quits drinking he might get really sick for a while, but that doesn't mean he should keep drinking.

Businesses are firmly entrenched in globalization. It will take a hard push to get them to come back. We aren't china and cant just tell businesses to come back.

Monkey man, Chyna and Russia can't even produce enough food to feed their own people. If everyone in Siam is as stupid as you it is certainly easy to understand why your singular contribution to mankind is the ladyboy.

US: openly try to destroy China's economy with bans, tariffs and sanctions

China: defend it self and respond in kind

Amerimutts: why would China do this??????

arrogant pricks, i hope Xi fucks you in the ass

Fine analogy but how long will Americans have to suffer?
Theres no plan here.

Wow, he sure showed them. This is a HUGE moral victory for the conservative movement. Lets really take it in and enjoy this clever tweet for the time being.

youtube.com/watch?v=_z1WdMgrErg
You guys banking on China are fucking retarded.

China always seeks to weaponize it's trade and anytime any country does something China disagrees with they start making threats. They've been doing it for over 20 years with all different goods but given how important rare earth minerals are, they've done it a lot with those.

Honestly, no country should rely on China for anything except cheap tacky plastic shit. If you do, China will seek to exploit and abuse this to their own advantage.

Again, there were better ways to do it. This carries a lot of unnecessary risk and likely won't survive the next election cycle. We're looking at decades of work requiring more than even a third Trump term.

Also I'll add automation does not automatically mean less jobs. If one person produces 1 widget and automation allows 1 person to produce 10 widgets it could be beneficial to bring in more people to increase production and expand. Anyone saying they know what is going to happen is full of shit.

Yep. To see so many mutts flaming out really puts it in perspective how right Xi was to do this.

Gotta stand up to bullies and their bad faith justifications for bullying.

Trump is actively trying to attract and fast track investment in the U.S right now.

China has been publicly stating for well over a decade now that they're going to destroy Americas economy, and have been doing absolutely everything they can do achieve this.

This is just America finally punching back, and China doesn't like it.

Not rare and not earths. The only reason the are "found" in places like China and the Ukraine is most countries don't want to extract them because the process is so polluting, wrecking both landscape and water supply. At lesst by fussy western enviro standards.

automation does not automatically mean less jobs

It'll certainly mean fewer jobs. It makes far more sense for China (and also the rest of the world) to just slowly ween itself off of US consumers in the long run, which they've been doing since Trump 1.0.

punch my friend

he punches me back

wow!! that proves my friend cannot be relied on whenever i do something in my own personal interest!!

need to drone strike their leadership

You fuckers cant win against the houthis, you subhuman

China doesn't have any real quantities of rare earth minerals. China is a very resource poor country. China produces them, but the raw materials are shipped in from other countries (or produced as a by product such as when making copper).

Really if America wanted, they could simply stop countries sending the raw materials to China, then China would have no rare earth minerals either.

Tell that to the cotton gin. Everyone thought slavery would go away but it actually increased demand because a slave could produce more.

if you piss off people, they stop playing with you

By this logic, all life is a national security issue

won't do shit, pussy

Really if America wanted, they could simply stop countries sending the raw materials to China, then China would have no rare earth minerals either.

I can only get so erect. Make me Australia's PM and I'll starve china while death camping the chinks already here.

China utilizes slave labor as well, Anon.

Imagine defending China at this point.

They're the lesser of two evils. America and Europe conspired to commit white genocide, against their own people. You're a brainwashed low IQ faggot if you think this is worth defending from China.

It's fine. I'd rather the current generation learns how the economy works sooner rather than later. Otherwise we'll just be back here again a decade or so from now.

They are cutting the tap to everyone. It similar to in the military where one guy fucks up and they make everyone do pushups until the recruit either drops out or stops fucking up.

And thats why they trade.
Just send some cheap stuff over here and we'll send them food.

nuh rare erf

rare earth is not rare, it's usually dirty to extract, so only countries that completely disregard their population engage in mining them.

The EU exclusively bought terrorist oil from Qatar and libya until 2019. Their migration issue has exclusively been at the hands of Africa along with being strung around by the EU.

Europeans have nothing to add to this conversation about international security.

We bailed them out with Lend Lease in WW2

We bailed them out with the Marshall Plan Post-WW2

If it wasn't for NATO they would all be speaking Russian right now with no choice. Theyre hypocritical cunts and fucking bums.

Long term i think this is the point. I think also the liberal retards are going to try and scuttle any operations that reindustrialize our country, probably under the guise of epa/global warming bullshit. Then trump is going to arrest them for national security purposes. Or at least expose the fact those whiny little faggots work for China and are the reason we can mine our own things. Hate to say but this isn't the 50s anymore grandpa. Zoomers can't change a car tire, do you think they will work in a metal foundry like my grandpa did? Shoveling coal into a hot furnace hour hours a day melting your ass off for like 12$ an hour? Fuck no they won't. They won't be down in the mines mining either. It would cause them immense psychological pains. Millennials are a mixed bucket. I feel like some are successful, some are blue collar and some are lazy fuck head neets who are as useless and worthless as zoomers. I don't know how you expect our industry to revive when we lack the materials and man power to.do so..

Russia can, especially with their recently reacquired farmland.

TRUST ZE PLAN

You might want to google Chi Haotians speech.
He explicitly said for China to continue existing, they would need to genocide the west (that is, all white people) and the best methods would be chemical and biological because that would wipe out the most number of people without damaging the land which China would claim for themselves.

Chi Haotian was not just some random Chink either. He was the leader of the PLA and one of the top, most powerful people in China. Even to this day he advises Xi.

Makes me laugh when people use retarded excuses like this. Because Chinas plan for you is to kill you.

trading is zero sum and you will always be subject to arbitrary tariffs and trade wars if you trade with me

Saying this out loud just ended 150 years of the American Empire this week by the way.

They could make it a lot cleaner if they actually invested in it, the leftists dont want mining benefits or resource usage of any kind by non elites.

other country

??
but you are from china?
thats why you have chink ships constantly parked and chilling in your waters, no?

Except they aren't. They're setting up a system where they can more easily cut the tap as necessary, that's why it's called export licensing and not a ban. It's obvious they're going to keep selling to those who do business with them.

This isn't rocket surgery, if mutts want to start erecting trade barriers, China reciprocates. And if you think that's an unfair retaliation, then keep retaliating. China has been actively diversifying both the supply and demand ends of its economy because they've already had to deal with it once.

This is all basic stuff, I'm not telling you anything new here. China is literally doing what America wanted it to do ever since Nixon went there, all while moving up the supply value chain because of course that's what you do the more you develop.

With being strung around by the EU

meant to say China.

Eurocucks would rather get drafted into a war to fight for the right to their wives getting fucked by jamal and abdul

Sweden is slowly developing the capability to cleanly extract their rare earths.

Why didn't they just retaliate against the US and drop tariffs on other countries? America would've been destroyed so hard, instead they do this, what the fuck?

Personally I'm expecting some out like that shit with washing machines years ago to tout as a big victory and the other 90% ghosts. Then China/US signs some cringe Phase 2 trade deal larp where they lie about buying basedbeans again

Thank you for proving our point that Isolationism is the only proper way to run a nation.

I think the most likely reason is because they found out that America is getting them through third party

Until Trump stops the sell out the country

Ftfy

Based and porn pilled

Because unlike the peasants, the overlords understand that this isn't a hostile move.
It's just a shuffling of money.
Both parties will still be on top of the globe at the end of this, guaranteed.

AHAHAHAHA, holy fuck. You're retarded

The fact that everyone but America is desperate to go back to the status quo tells me that's not true.

Also, it said restrict, not ban. I suppose it will be something similar to fentanyl precursor export control

It is.

What will they do for income if they're not producing cheap goods for their main US consumers? Have their population starve? Even China has employment issues for their youth that do not want to work in factories like their parents did.

Anon Babble is too stupid to realize this will completely devastate all industry in the USA.
Trump will be BEGGING Xi to undo this before the end of the week.

Nope. Their infrastructure is disastrous, and not just because it was built by low IQ drunkards but because everything goes to the wrong places due to commie planning.
It could conceivably be fixed but they don't have any money after spending 44% on bombs and 55% on Putin's watch collection, which is admittedly quite impressive.
Go to bed, Monkey man, Tim Sharkey has big things planned for your bussy tomorrow.

But you're not the leader and you never will be you faggot. Hope China destroys your economy next

What will they do for income if they're not producing cheap goods for their main US consumers?

Diversifying to their other main consumers I would imagine, like they've been doing since the first trade war.

USA

industry

Bro? The nation is cooked. There's no feeling of 'unity'. It's literally the popular angle in America for people to hate everybody and everything relating to its major population centers. If someone hit up LA or NY for example, the majority of the nation would just make memes about it.
How can a country go on like this?

america does overtly hostile acts

defend yourself

SEE YOU'RE THE BAD GUY

fucking hell amerimutts are so jewish

I understand the United States, but why all country. China could've taken advantage of that

Fake pole. Fuck off back to russia.

America is currently ruled by someone that doesnt know what a trade deficit is and just learned what a tariff was 2 weeks ago, I wouldnt take their opinion seriously.
Also not really, everyone is scrambling to find local alliances to not be shackled to the US anymore. You're on the thread where China just cut off the US from their rare earths teat. If Europe had anything besides airBNBs and self loathing we would've cut you people off too, hopefully. Alas.

Oh sweet summer child

monkey calling others subhuman

Americans are so dumb they think their winning. China could stop all trade and it would result in a hit of 3% Chinese GDP. America would no longer be able to build Ford trucks. Like I said their so fucking dumb and I mean all of them.

americans have no knowledge of chinese grievances. now that china has achieved superpower status, it will never let any westoid country pass them around fucking them like an opium addicted whore that it was in the past.

Because they are 100% going to get backdoored into the US somehow just like how China uses surrounding asian countries (and Mexico) to backdoor their products into America

If China is so strong and powerful and doesn't even need America then why is China screeching so hard about American tariffs right now?

Really makes you think.

December 16, 2019 hahaha cope

do you think they will work in a metal foundry like my grandpa did? Shoveling coal into a hot furnace hour hours a day melting your ass off for like 12$ an hour?

Honestly, they will as long as you compensate them with wages that isn't dirty shit poor. Alot of millennials and zoomers are willing to work as fucking food delivery or Uber and risk going to sketchy ass ghettos if you paid them enough. Just stop being Jews and pay them enough to survive inflation.

GLORY TO CHINA AND THE CPC
DEATH TO AMERIFAT

Trump really opened a can of worms, you can't beat China. They're headed by some of the smartest people in the world and they hold all the cards, manufacturing, raw materials, tech, all of it depends on China. What was he even thinking lol? Now with new trade deals with other countries China will overtake US economy in 3 years(though they were always going to be number 1)

potash is to boost the yields and reduce crop cycling fag.

but they were giving us stuff we needed before we did something they didn't like!

lol

americans are the ones who decided to otusource all their manufacturing there, bro. YOU built china.
YOU are reaping the consequence.

their

Nice going leaf

DURR I AM A FILTHY jEW, HURRRRR

no one in ziggerland gives a shit about these sanctions and tariffs anymore

Man...
Nobody "gives a shit" because there is nothing we can do, suffering is just a norm of life here.

No he isn't
The stock market dumping and bond yields spiking are literally people and institutions divesting from the US economy in real time. He's also curtailed several capital investment projects like the CHIPS Act.

call trump administration dumb

markets rally

they are getting too powerful...

kill yourself streetshitter

Imagine not defending China and not wanting total nuclear genocide for JEWSA shitskin country.

Based. China and Europe are natural allies.

no one gives a shit because they were already eating trash out of gutters now they just cant season the trash because the spices are too expensive

Wumao chink spotted, having fun in Toronto faggot bugman?

streetshitter spotted

USA: lets trade

China: ok

USA: ok, i know i started this and i set the rules which you followed, but actually you are ripping me off so i hate you now

China: WTF?

Turns out relying on a floating currency, mass spending and money printing will eventually crash your economy.

Bitch, we've been suffering since 2020 with Biden. Prices aren't as high and goods not as scarce as peak Biden years. This is nothing.

I wish amerimutts and chinks a very pleasant mutual annihilation

Yeah, we know. Our schizmatic system where one side completely flips the others flop every 4-8 years keeps us from maintaining any kind of meaningful long term development plants from being scuttled as soon as the new dicksucker is in power.

Prices aren't as high

They are thoughbeit, because you haven't had deflation.
They will be far higher once tariff effects filter through supply chains

scarcity

Which was caused by demand squeezes following the end of lockdowns and the spike in oil and gas prices following the invasion of Ukraine.
You are walking right into a much bigger price and supply squeeze, entirely self inflicted.

A 3% reduction in GDP would trigger a depression for China dumbass. Their entire economy is turbo-leveraged towards gdp growth, that 3% would actually 8% net loss and that 8% is propped up by their entire economy and government.

people do not understand anything about rare earths production on this board for one the mining sites aren't very rate, secondly most nations at some point dabbled in rare earth farming including the U.S. none of this is actually about those elements but rather the industrial capacity behind them, and to be clear the reason why we stopped mining them back on the 70's was to make the countey go "green" aka make the intense mining pollution it causes someone else's problem

Lol
You have one of the most inert political systems on earth. It quite literally does bot matter if its zion don or mutt kamala. All dogs of the same jewish system.

Which is why the traitors need to be flushed down the drain asap. I'm not playing this gay "she's a racist/he's a sexist" game at this point. If you got a foreign people usurping a government apparatus and legislating laws that harm its constituents then that will turn into a war. I also hate how everyone memory holed the lockdowns which was when we had all this meddling from the CCP. The people may be retards but I can't fathom the military industrial complex at this point forgetting it.

3%

More like 0.5%

to all countries

not just the US

wtf, why?

So the US is forced to keep factories in china

America 2

even when China is America it’s still not #1
Sounds good though

As opposed to the US moving factories to Europe?

If rare earths are only in china the factories can only function in china. How is that hard to understand?

I don’t have time to read this entire thread full of faggots.
What have we concluded?

The point is they have the power to.

Right but it's not Italy who is trying to bring Chinese factories over to Italy.
It's the US who is trying to move factories over to the US.
So why does Italy get hit with the restrictions? They're not a threat.

Restricting trade in a trade war is a foreseeable response.

Imagine defending China at this point. We need to drone strike their leadership and make it America Two.

We need to make it Taiwan Two

Trump is retarded and all mutts should be exterminated

China kike bot all up in this thread

Trump introduces tariffs to China

its somehow Chinese fault

SORRY THEY MAKE AFFORDABLE MICROWAVES FOR YOUR TENDIES

what is IP theft

Something that everyone does,
america being the great master of it

what is copyright infringement

you don't know what you are talking about

what is CCP trade barriers

Everyone has trade barriers especially developing economies

"china wuz good boiz"

Everything China has done that you people call hostile, be it towards Taiwan, the US or Europe has always been retaliatory
Get inside Bruce the dropbears are clawing at your brain.

You should really stop talking your country is currently stealing rare minerals and metal's from everyone in Europe

Imagine defending China at this point. We need to drone strike their leadership and make it America Two.

Good luck with that. The US can't do shit.

from china

those rare metals are coming from africa so just buy from africa i guess

100% of rare earth metals come from China

The amerimutts are seething HARD rn

Relying on Chinese industry for national security is retarded. That established, that thinking is still painfully backwards. Either way, the US went past the point of no return now.

America could've boosted domestic manufactoring and found alternative sources for rare earth minerals without doing all this. The main result from doing all this is that China was essentially forced into using the leverage they have.
How arrogant do you have to be anyway to think that starting a trade war with the entire rest of the planet is a good idea?

Why would Americans ever not feel comfortable with this deal.

It doesn't matter how they feel.

America could've boosted domestic manufactoring and found alternative sources for rare earth minerals without doing all this

No it couldn't and this won't work either.

why yes, I am an edgelord doomer, how could you tell?

Yes they could've, it would've cost money and would've been more gradual but it would've been better than this.

Why does ANYONE rely on a totalitarian government which annexes neighbors, has war aims on other neighbors, operates concentration camps and exports deadly narcotics to other nations? They are nobody's friend yet many people seem to have simply moved on from these spectacular flaws. Is there a statute of limitations on them?

The factories weren't moving to the US anyway, they were moving to vietnam or india and now can't be moved anymore anywhere

you're dumb and should feel bad about putting your seething retardation on display

this is peak economic-illiteracy. You and the buggy whip producers are in good company

It was doing it already with the CHIPS act and other projects orange retard cancelled.

want to start erecting trade barriers

This nigger is really saying this about the US in relation to China.

we'll just charge China a fee

you pay that fee tho

Chips act was fucking retarded and gave money to worthless tranny companies like foxcon. We're still doing the meaningful parts of chips

Your military is gay as fuck, you just hand trillions to the pentagon which disappears into a black hole.

If you go to war with China you're going to get exposed as frauds.

10 BILLION MORE TO ISRAEL

China wants and will get Europe and other countries to beg china to make special exceptions for their country. Amd china will get them to be extra anti american

consoom my garbage chink shit that you dont need

or i will not sell this shiny metal that you probably need

jej,trade war are funny when you think about it

You niggers can't do shit. Ever. Your entire defense strategy is to throw rocks and then run and hide behind the US. This has been true for 100 years now.
In a just world, you would be speaking German right now.

can't handle their own tariff rates being pointed at their goods

China was always hostile you absolute midwit

Rare earths are everywhere. You just need to dig up a shitload of dirt to get them, that's why they're "rare".

i'd take any amerishart than being under the thumb of the chinkoid swarm

Approximately 14 days. Also, tanks in 30 minutes.

But this for the USA, literally the source of all problems

We had this last week. I pointed out to some mutt that after getting on for 20 years of virulent sinophobia in Europe, there was no reason for anyone to have a problem with China if the US was abandoning everyone.

That just proves you were a bad ally

No, it proves we were such good allies we were prepared to put your interests ahead of our own to stand by you. Thats over now.
Ultimately Trump's whole thing is based on a victim complex.

Why yes, that is precisely what Brussels has to say, and also that we are eternally collapsing. Do you actually have a goddamn thing to add to the thread, or are you just stuck repeating propaganda with magical thinking?

Imagine defending USA at this point. We need to drone strike their leadership and make it China Two.

You are increasingly irrelevant, your government bends the knee because it has no other options.

Maybe the US does not want to sell its ports, land, and get into debt, in exchange for TEMU trash.

Like when a country starts selling hard assets like Land to a enemy like China, and China is buying it effectively with consumable commodities, the winning move is not to play.

China never played fair with US, constantly fucking them over and flooding with fentanyl. US has ever moral right to take their ball and go home.

totalitarian government

ZOG?

which annexes it's neighbors

Greenland, Canada, Panama and Mexico?

has war aims on other neighbors

Numbers of children China has bombed vs USA this century?

operates concentration camps

Guntamano Bay?
Exports deadly narcotics to other nations
Like recently unclassified CIA reports on them poisoning Cuban sugar?

How does it feel to know the EU has cucked and agreed to drop all their tariffs on us?
But we're still might not drop all our tariffs on you because you don't have free speech. It is now public policy we will tariff nations that don't allow freedom.

based

lets get this party started

Do you remember when Trump warned the EU of an energy crisis that could erupt if Russia cut the power off? That ended up happening.

Countries should be self-sufficient. We are not.

The funny part is that the free speech issue may not even be old-school political, it might be a literal system incompatibility with AI as we develop it.

Retard

Numbers of children China has bombed vs USA this century?

Have you checked how many innocents they've killed with fentanyl? We could nuke them and still be proportional.

the plan is just to automate.

UBI here we come. Some American bros, when we start ignoring the world, what will you do after your 20 hour a week job?

You’re retarded. China is none of those things. They are one thing and one thing only: cheap labor. There is nothing China currently produces that we couldn’t, it’s just China is willing to do it for Pennies.
Their entire country depends on espionage and stealing secrets and tech from America and other truly productive countries. China doesn’t invent anything new.

Ultimately Trump's whole thing is based on a victim complex.

jewish tricks

every time America does something in its own personal interest

What's happening right now is Trump's own personal interest

It’s also an important additive for concrete

I will be carving stones that I dig from my creek and playing with my daughter and loving my wife.

it'd be easier and better to do that to fucking shithole mexico

Unfortunately I’m a residential concrete finisher so I’ll be one of the last jobs to be automated, maybe that’s good because UBI will kick in before I entirely lose my day job, giving me the ability to double earn for awhile. Plus my wife currently doesn’t work so her UBI plus mine will be plenty.

do nothing

get bullied

muh fentanyl

Using that excuse to target fucking Canada was enough tell that Trump is only using it so he can wield his "emergency" tariff powers. It's a fucking lie

my wife had a UBI but antibiotics cleared it up pretty fast

Probably stopped having sex with that black guy you always seem to see around your place. How do you cope?

t. Kike

Hahahaha, you don’t even get healthcare and you think you’re gonna get UBI. Wrong country mate, good luck with whichever billionaire ends up ruling your economic exclusion zone

every single american has healthcare, they don't have preventative prescription or follow up visits if you can afford insurance but don't buy it. If you cant afford insurance, its essentially given to you through the marketplace in lieu of taxes. We also have guns, your country is dogshit and will be dying before Americans in the next war with china, double nigger. Ill laugh at your accent as your countrymen die to maintain USA semblance of sphere influence

but I did have breakfast this morning!

kek, nigger

I am smarts because I says so and no need to make an argument

Nice try, but no. You don't have a good point here.

What's there to think? Trump was right. China can and WILL use their exports as leverage to keep bleeding USA out of their wealth.

The problem here is <90 IQ people that think USA is doing fine by printing 500 trillion dollars a year. Lol. That's a straight path to becoming South America within our lifetimes.

USA HAS to start producing goods and revert the trade deficit. They can't live on printed money forever.

Looking at China immediately taking action this way, using their mineral exports as weapon to stop USA from fixing their economy is as predictable as it proves Trump's point.

Are you upset, I’d tell you it’s gonna all be okay but it’s not

they say you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

but with chinksects it seems to be the opposite, well played kek

USA cannot go back to that economy because you guys are fillled with niggers, indians and spics. Like, literally the only reason you guys were able to even have a growing economy is because you had a healthy society which wasn't threatened by non whites, which you have right now. Your people don't reproduce, your people abort their children, and men and women cannot even interact with each other without having some set of problems. The damage your society currently has is irreversible, and it reflects in your manufactures and production capabilities. That's why you could not protect your israeli masters against Hamas. Back when you were at full power, your country could muster enough strenght to just go, destroy the whole country, and keep the kikes intact with no casualties. But look at you now, cannot even deploy anymore without having some backlash by the same golems your kike masters were using against your white population.
WELCOME TO THE THIRD WORLD, IDIOTS HAHAHAHAHAHA

theres nothing to be upset over, you are all being reminded there are only about 4-5 soverign nations. And Australia and Canada arent in the list

Didnt yall get rounded up and put in cpvid camps?

Sovereign Countries have governments, yours is being deleted in preparation for a balkans of billionaire ruled zones. No more power projection just an isolationist experiment

if you let me fuck you in the ass every day, ill buy any item you sell me for 1 dollar more than your competition asks, in perpetuity. no one else is going to offer you this competitive advantage so you better take it now before i up my side of the deal to TWO creampies per day

Greenland has a bunch, they our colony now.

Trust me, most of the world would thank god for that

well fuck em then
america first

this is what trump started you fucking retard, he needs to get drone striked if you're so mad.

Not only self sufficient countries don't exist ( besides China) but also basically almost all countries can't be self sufficient to begin with.
Also , in his quest to achieve a self sufficient country, Trump wants to control the Panama canal and Greenland. You are worse than China at this point

So Trump puts tariffs on you and you should take it as a good little boy and kiss his ass?

NOOOOO!!!!! ONLY AMERICA SHOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH TARIFFS

This is how you sound chudlet

panama and greenland are property of america so it makes sense the president of america would want control of the americas, in the same way 1 chair in brussels is property of spain, and you have control of that one chair, as you rightfully should.

China isn't self sufficient. They are an incredibly resource poor country and import almost half of their food (and this percentage is increasing). Not just luxury foods either, they are the largest importer of staple foods like wheats and grains.
They also have basically no real oil, gas or coal reserves and import almost all of this as well.

Bit hard to be self sufficient when you cannot feed yourself or generate enough power to keep your industries on.

can someone actually tell me why I can't type onions on here?

China over Israel anyday. That goes double for your country India.

that's not really how rare minerals work, for example, there's only one deposit on the entire planet high grade translucent Sugilite comes from and it's in one specific area in the Khalari Maganese Fields of South Africa. Almost all of it was mined out in the 70s and 80s and now they accept such low quality smattering of sugilite as 'sugilite' that if you have any sugilite gel from the 70s and 80s it's worth 100x. A bucket 15 years ago for 30k is now worth 3m etc.

The funniest thing in the context of this thread is that the Chinese love rare minerals like Sugilite and literally buy it all up and the western world has basically no fucking clue how much rare and exotic minerals are on shelves in china and around a rich chinese wife's neck that will never see the light of the western world. And this is only some exotic mineral that has no purpose besides looking good; do you know about the minerals used inside of pacemakers? There's an extremely exotic one found in africa that is basically one of the most valuable minerals on earth, forget blood diamonds; pacemakers are made with blood minerals

SORRY SWEATY IF U WANT SUGMALIGHT AND LIGMALIUM YOU HAVE TO IMPORT BROWNS, EXPORT DOLLARS, AND EXCLUSIVELY RENT HOUSING OTHERWISE MY PET CHINKS WILL JUST WEAR THEM AS JEWELERY

dam bro i never thought about it like that, you can resume cutting off me and my son's dicks now

are you having a stroke

I'm just explaining minerals man why do you feel like i'm personally attacking your viewpoints with what i've said

I collect minerals and there are a few things I can tell you right now.

Sugilite is rare but you can find it in many places and not just South Africa. Lots of it comes from Canada and Italy, Australia and India also has large deposits of it too.

Secondly, as someone who regularly buys minerals online, I can tell you almost 95% of what you get from Chinese sellers is either fake, or of such shit quality it's not really worth anything. Commonly they'll just sell you glass and claim it's a gemstone, or they'll dye a cheap stone to look like another rarer or more expensive one.
It's annoying as fuck because these chinks are all over the place trying to pass off their cheap shit stones at actual minerals and they go out of their way to disguise the fact that they are from China.

lol China would win a war against NATO because their military isn't full of fat trannies.

Can confirm big people are obsessed with rare minerals. It’s in their DNA.

Söy. Anti-redditor lingo is a no go due to reddit trannies being Anon Babble mods. Also because it was spammed, aka for the lol's

"bomb them!" cries the yankee, the last desperate cry of cope

Well he's tariffed the whole world so which sources are mon-hostile right now?

When has China ever restricted anything in trade first? Suffer the consequences, mutt cocksuckers

That's nice and all but I sell minerals to people like you, sorry, you're not going to tell me anything I don't know. There isn't a maganese field putting out transluscent gem quality sugilite or 'gel' sugi, yes sugilite can be found in places but that wasn't what I said.

Just had a look at some authentic auction websites. You can buy gemstone quality sugilite for like $100-200 range.

That's not even impressive, an equally sized ruby or sapphire will cost 20-50x that price.

Stop buying from online website first of all, and what are these websites second of all? I have been to Tucson for a decade now, worked with a guy who made his fortune going to South Africa in the 80s and bringing Sugilite back, hell I met Randy Polk - the guy who basically brought Sugilite out of South Africa in the 70s and named it Royal Lavulite, and saw Chinese people at his booth arguing for his 90k purple rocks that go for $100/gram

I just read the speech and he says things a party member would never say and that would go against the common Chinese view
The source is apparently Epoch times, which is funded by the Falun Gong new religious movement

There are many genuine auction houses that will certify gems and do it all online.
Sugilite isn't a particularly rare or expensive gem in the world of gemstones. $100/gram (5 carats you mean?) is peanuts, good quality Ruby is more like $10,000+/gram.

panama and greenland are property of america

No

south africa

dude

Next you're going to tell me good quality diamond goes for thousands a karat

Yes Rubies are nice but when you go to the gem show and you dig buckets and buckets of rubies at every single tent it starts to stick out to you how many rubies there really are, you don't dig through buckets and buckets of sugilite you - a 'mineral collector' hadn't even heard of it.

Sugilite 'gel' is transparent. Not milky, literally transparent. It's not a smattering crust on the outside of a black maganese matrix, it's literally Sugilite in Chalecdony. It's hasn't been found anywhere else on the planet in the quanity and quality it was found in a specific area in South Africa, like I said before, the amount of 'sugilite' they say is 'quality' sugilite is basically nothing compared to real gel sugilite which you cannot easily buy. And again, we're going back to the 'quit buying shit online' because there's so many fakes and frauds online there's no telling and sugilite is one of the things the chinese love to fake because they like it so much.

you misunderstand- your post has nothing to do with my viewpoints. i am an innocent bystander personally attacking your viewpoints because they are retarded.

This is the biggest projection post of 2025 so far

Ruby is dirt cheap and common, I've got a ruby the size of your head next to me. It cost me like $20. But gemstone quality ruby is an entirely different thing.

I guess you don't understand the different between a mineral and a gemstone quality mineral.

b-but what are my viewpoints from that post? I didn't say anything even remotely political lmao

And you don't understand the the total amount on the planet. Yes Rubies are cool, would it surprise you to know we also dont have very many rubies in the US or of the same quality? What about the red emerald from utah, the only place on the planet it comes from?

Quit bragging about rocks you bought online like a fucking newfag retard, I've travel to Tucson and work there every year - I'm actually known in the rock and mineral world and can visit dozens of crystal shops in the US and meet owners I'm acquainted with from my time in Tucson. You know basically nothing from your computer chair besides the fact you've been ripped off multiple times. I'm within arms reach of rocks that dwarf your entire collection and I'm not sitting here bragging about it to win the argument.

Then lets see the rocks, with a time stamp and your hand (you wont, because you're a chang trying to brag about nothing in particular).

If I wanted to brag I'd show you my painite stone.