AI will lead to a broad demand for socialism, right? If only the people who create the AI get to benefit from it then why do we even view technological progress in a positive way in the first place?
AI will lead to a broad demand for socialism, right...
There is more options that just capitalism and socialism
AI will lead to broad demand for depopulation. Ftfy.
Probably. However, I have a feeling normies can't justify their usefulness for long and we'll see a culling. Existential crisis en masse. Quite grim actually.
In communism, you are the robot.
AI will lead to broad demand for depopulation.
of poos, niggers and ching chongs
poos nigger and chongs are not a liability to the global order
it's white people with their expensive lifestyles that you freaks will cull
Peepee poopoo kike, stay in your shithole and take the rest of jews around world to shitsrael.
If only the people who create the AI get to benefit from it then why do we even view technological progress in a positive way in the first place?
This is a capitalist way of thinking because this is only possible in capitalism.
In "communism" there is no private property so the factories and "AI" will benefit everyone in the "community".
now im free to die in gulag
Ftfy
Remind me which way krauts were jumping over the wall? No cunt ever tried to escape to socialism.
People don't know how to enjoy life in the modern age without consooming resources far in excess of their needs.
If there is going to be a culling it better start in Africa and India. No other parts of the world have so many worthless surplus humans.
Struggle is what makes life worth living. Work should be a part of it. Ideally that work should be something you enjoy. We're not made to work in factories or offices though.
I'm under the impression that most lefties think that everything will be great when robots replace all human labor and that nobody will have to do any work anymore and people will actually be content with it. It would be a total death of society.
Socialism:
From each according to their ability
To each according to their need.
You will live in the pod.
You will eat the bugs.
You will own nothing.
Deal with it.
You are a midwit. It doesn't mean that people will stop being productive.
People will still work, but work on what they want and love and have skills with.
Carpenters will still work to create products and sell. Musicians will be free to make music. If you love animals you will be free to take care of them. etc.
Sure, there will be lazy people who will "leech" off from society but they too will get fed up with their lifestyle and actually do something.
Living in the pod, eating bugs and owning nothing is only being done in this capitalist society. You are experiencing these things right now.
WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR
Nothing but a wet dream.
If you have Star Trek-tier technologies, then I would agree with you.
Even Marx admitted that Capitalism is the best system under scarcity.
Struggle is what makes life worth living.
Why do you want to be miserable?
fascism would work
Cambodia under Pol pot was capitalist?
Agrarian communism.
Struggle, or hardship, doesn't imply suffering.
It means you work hard to get something that you want.
There is a serious, huge difference between people who worked hard to get something that they wanted and people who got something that they wanted on a silver platter.
People who get it on a silver platter tend to be of lower quality than people who work hard to get it.
This man gets it
why do we even view technological progress in a positive way in the first place?
The positive aspects of technology are far more visible and widely advertised than the negative aspects. This creates a distorted picture in which the public sees technological progress as a general good
Why care about that? I don't care about it. Your personal spiritual shit is between you and God. Leave society out of it.
you work hard to get something that you want.
lmao
imagine believing this.
It does. As long as everyone's basic needs are provided by the government, the people who use that maximize reproduction will take over. Some people will choose to spend their time working like you say, but evolution will take care of them.
It will only boost human productivity and research and help us to live even more comfortably.
People are seeing things with capitalism's lens. This is why you fail to understand.
the people who use that maximize reproduction will take over
Do you think niggers in Africa make 10 babies because they get free shits from the government?
no socialism doesn't give people purpose
the eternal communist parasite
Socialism - the man is being carted off during the night and shot in a ditch for being the “enemy of the people”
I didn't imply religion in the conversation. If I did, then I do apologize.
I observed this phenomenon with my own eyes.
I despise people who are born with a silver spoon in their mouths as they tend to have a shit attitude compared to people without a silver spoon.
I doubt you will survive in the 1900s in that mindset, anon.
I highly doubt that you will survive the hardships that are coming.
AI will lead to
gray goo
Do you think niggers in Africa make 10 babies because they get free shits from the government?
Listen here ESL, I did not say that the people who reproduce the most due so because of gibs. I said that the people who use gibs to maximize reproduction will take over via natural selection.
Blame Star Trek for that idea. They were portrayed to be a socialist Utopia where there was no need for money, and the driving goal behind ones life was to better themselves. Humans in general are too lazy to do anything like that. They will not improve themselves on their own.
I said that the people who use gibs to maximize reproduction will take over via natural selection.
They won't. That's not how evolution works, retard.
That's exactly how evolution works. One organism survives and reproduces more than another and the next generation is more like that organism.
Thing is, 'unproductive' people only exist in capitalism.
In communism everyone is productive because they are free to do whatever they are good at because they don't have to sacrifice their talent just to eat and survive.
A musician doesn't have to slave away at walmart to survive.
A mechanical engineer doesn't have to deliver food to earn money so he can eat, pay rent and merely to continue existing.
You think those whores and basedfaggots who 'work' in HR are productive people.
You think walmart wageslaves at productive people.
Why? Just because they have jobs?
You think people who are struggling, who don't have jobs are unproductive and useless? Coming back to OP's AI theme, even more and more people will lose their jobs because of AI in your system.
Will you call those previously employed people as unproductive ?
You are seriously delusional because capitalism is based on delusion and exploitation.
"AI" is a buzzword at this point. Any post claiming future is "AI" is about as educated as people claiming flying cars are future or terminators are future. This ridiculous faith in silicon is all thanks to very recent rapid advancement of computer parts industry. But technological progresses are never linear. They start slow and quickly speed up and fall down to speed of crawl for good. This is because of physical limitations. Technology is not an infinite number go up game. It peaks and stagnates. No matter how much time passes a silicon is still silicon. Not to mention its undeniable inferiority to organic (carbon based) compounds which is the substance of true and only intelligent life in existence.
Recorded human history spans thousands of years and evolutionary pressure that brought them where they are millions. It's incredibly naive to expect a few terabytes of stolen internet data eaten by a cute little program written by arrogant, ignorant tech bros fueled by capitalism, an unsustainable very recent economic religious belief system only existing because of greed fueled wars of literal psychopathic factory and bank owners off their meds, a system which never existed before and can only manifest itself due to abundance of resources and human exploitation of today.
TLDR: "ai" is just a tech scam. Stop using it in your arguments retard. It literally can't replace human blood and sweat.
You are so full of shit. Humans in general regardless of society, will take the path of least resistance if their needs are being met.
we can finally enjoy life
Only when they get the world population down to 500 million.
Again, your assumption is based on capitalism and work to survive theory based on human history.
We now have a completely new technology and tools we can use to help humanity. Not a single soul has to starve right now. People are only starving because of the greed of capitalists.
Humans destroy 10 million tons of grains each year because it is not profitable to ship them to other place and to sell it.
It will be more like Blade Runner where Tyrell corporation is obscenely rich and everyone else lives in slums.
Communism has not worked in any country before because of Human greed. "True communism" can never be obtained because Humans will fuck it up like anything else. The same greed that has capitalists rule with their oligarchy is not vacant from communists. Power corrupts.
AI will lead to a broad demand for socialism, right?
AI is just a bunch of crap. It won't amount to anything.
We now have a completely new technology and tools we can use to help humanity.
No we don't.
AI is going to destroy the Left Right Paradigm. People are still thinking in over 100 year old Marxist terms or whatever. That's all meaningless now. AI is going to demand an entire new political and spiritual philosophy.
Maybe you eat bugs in buttfuck Nepal.
AI is smarter than to just mindless feed the starving, that will just create more mouths to feed. The ASI you are talking about that can just provide for everyone will also absolutely have to engage in population control because it will be the one controlling everything.
The only way to completely kill the starvation is to completely kill the non-whites which will loosen the burden on the resources shortage and actually encourage the use of massive heavy machinery to harvest and use the resources for scarcity and expanding the life standards.
There is no definite answer what is it "to each according to their need of life", which really can be reduced to mere pods and bugs, and many yet do not deserve to have even basic life. Greed, unironically, is what causes humanity to advance our culture and thus standard of life, as we need more and more - and that's the good thing.
he thinks like this going to happen
not goverment enforced workcamps of paperclipping to "uphold ze socialist community"
This was Soviet futurism. Its the main concept of Atomic Heart.
ohh.. all this SUFFERING IN SOVIET UNION...
LLMs are trained using our stolen data and we should be entitled to fruits of our labor so to speak.
Left
Happens multiple times in history, creates more jobs and more advanced jobs if the market is allowed to grow
Right
Has only happened in Capitalist countries in practice after volatility
Hasn't happened in socialist countries
no global order is possible without white people to maintain its systems
The choices are and only ever are
State control of private exchange should be maximized
And
State control of private exchange should be minimized
You can have arguments over what the theoretical or practical measures to achieve those goals are, or what constitutes the maximizing or minimizing at all, and how far those measures should be realistically pursued, but those are the only two directions of economic theory.
Holy ESL, I didn't say anything about people being unproductive. I'm talking about REPRODUCTION as in making babies.
In the socialist scenario the robots don't exist.
You literally said
the people who use gibs to maximize reproduction will take over via natural selection.
clown retard
finally I am completely dependent on a government or major corporation
this is quite literally the opposite of the american notion of freedom, which is founded on the idea of being self-sufficient
notion of freedom
If robots become proletariat then robots deserve fruits of the labor not jobless social parasites.
Socialism is about eternal labor not about eternal leisure.
Getting rent form enslaved robot proles is fuedalism it socialism.
We already have cost and time saving technology, and your primary complaint is that you feel you're not seeing enough of the benefits. The primary use case for AI is middle management, and coding, the only two sectors of the world economy that have any real reason to grow at all.
All of this is true. Most of it has been true since the fall of the soviet union. Your stupid faggot game theory is that AI is somehow different. This would be actually funny if it wasn't reasably authentic.
REPRODUCTION AS IN MAKING BABIES
In "communism" there is no private property so the factories and "AI" will benefit everyone in the "community".
Not so fast parasite!
I don't mean to be pedantic or anything, but what does the bible define as work?
Yes. And I said it won't happen.
Nah AI will supply the demand of slave surveilance
Let's say you have this AI utopia where no one needs to work and everyone can just spend their time doing whatever they want. Within this society you have two men, Hank and Joe. Hank decides to spend his time painting. Joe decides to spend his time making and raising children. Which of these men will the following generations resemble more?
Hank decides to spend his time painting. Joe decides to spend his time making and raising children. Which of these men will the following generations resemble more?
This guy gets it.
Even more it can be just not single people, but group people connected by similar set of believes like religion. They would be outpacing in reproduction other desires groups even faster.