Why is this so hard to understand for the average leftist fag?

Are you so retarded that you think that difference of production expenses is only 50%?
Making things in America is 5-10 times more expensive.

Correct, even at 100% tariffs the Chinese goods will still be cheaper and more attractive.

for the average leftist fag?

Mein gott socialists ARE FOR protectionism you absolute retard.

America well known as a hub of manufacturing

Comrade Trump will usher in a new age of Juche

Then the tariffs will be made higher until their goods are non-competitive, you broke faggots.

the over-demand gives leverage to raise prices

Attractive only to people who don't understand anything else other than price

academic agent is a retard

you broke faggots

you WILL pay more money for worse goods

this is good because

You're so economically illiterate it hurts. Trump cant just wave his hand and make the USA some industrial paradise. He's just raising taxes on you and everything else will stay the same.

t,. Konstantin Kisin

Instead of paying $1, 90 cents of which goes back to China, I will be paying $1.50, all of which stays in the USA. Easy choice unless you're a broke faggot who can't afford the extra 50 cents to do the right thing for the country.

What is the American made GPU?

not completely accurate
There would be no reason that the american product wouldn't increase its price to be just under $2 ceteris paribus

US prices are more expensive because of leftist policies like unions, safety, and benefits.

I read the first bullet point and went to read the filename. That explained it

The most important thing is that we keep taking advantage of Chinese slave labor while slowly losing all of our manufacturing capacity, neutering our ability to wage war, respond to crises, and making us a virtual hostage of the Chinese who can turn off the flow at any time. All so you can get a T shirt for 10.99 instead of 12.99. Environmental regulations lead to higher costs, labor laws lead to higher costs. Yet somehow these market distortions are worthwhile, but it’s fine to make an end run around it as long as the pollution being produced, or human rights being abused are in China. Price isn’t everything, it’s unrealistic to expect a de-industrialized America to remain a superpower for long.

foreign goods become uncompetitively priced compared to US made

companies realize they will make much more money by building factories in america

factories get built

All with time + a wave of Trump's pen-holding hand.

12 seconds in ms paint

Bold of you to think amerikikes will offer cheap products, specially considering the costs of moving factories to a country with lower tariffs (they will never return to USA because following its laws is more expensive than paying tariffs) and paying a plus for the parts that can are only produced outside USA. In reality it will be

chink shit $10 ($1 from chinese slave labor + $9 to cover new expenses and tariffs)

burger shit $15 ($1.5 from imported jeet slave labor + $9.5 to cover expenses and tariffs + $4 of additional profit for Shlomo)

Even with tariffs amerikike shit would continue being more expensive than chinkshit because burgers need to spend more following laws and regulations, invest a ton in new factories that will take years to be made and even more to cover the original investment with its profits, and unironically pay a premium for materials not produced in burgerland as a result of both USA and the other countries having tariffs on each other.

If tariffs bad why do other countries put tariffs on us

If tariffs good why do we get mad when other countries put tariffs on us

If we make goods in the US, they will be more expensive!

That's because of leftist policies like unions, wages, health care, and benefits. So just reduce those, and US prices will come down.

Noooooooooooooooooooo!

truke

The reason would be competition driving the market clearing price closer to the cost of production for a given unit. Right now that cost is lower than what an american company must spend produce a widget hence the problem in the first place.

you are a real idiot if you think the cost of USA goods aren't going to increase

wow, so well get more expensive american products in 5, 7, 10 years from now? Also more than likely made by the same shaniquas and danquavious freedmans , Ranjeets and Billy-bobs that are currently causing the competency crisis that everyone bitches about?

Yeah, no thanks, ill just pay more for the chinese products.

and when is that happening? 2 weeks?

neutering our ability to wage war,

That's a good thing though. What do I even get out of the military murdering children for not supporting Israel?

you have to be 18

paying 50% more is actually good

lol you actually think the us manufactures anything?

Trump has 4 years. Itll take a LOT longer than that to build these factories, and even then, the other side of this that I dont see people mentioning much, YOULL HAVE TO TRAIN PEOPLE TO WORK IN THEM, thus adding even MORE time to this. You think the average sub 80 IQ niggers going to make better products than china?

Again, no thanks, ill pay more for chinas products. ive had a 98% success rate with all of the chink shit ive bought, and the 2% failure rate was VERY quickly replaced FOR FREE.

The factories can move in 4 years and the next president will immediately stop all this tariff nonsense as soon as they get into office (if trump doesn’t give up by then). Things are just going to get insanely more expensive until Trump is out of office

US company A charges 1.99

US company B undercuts the competition at 1.98

US company C undercuts the competition at 1.97

US company A undercuts the competition at 1.96

And so on, so forth until undercutting becomes unprofitable

Economic theory is sound in a vacvum but totally breaks apart in practice. Subsidies, loss leaders, effective monopolization, tax loopholes. The markup on some shit gets insane if the production of the good can't be easily replicated.
Look at cars. In 2021 there weren't enough computer chips to make modern cars. Did the spirit of competition rise up and start producing cars with crank-down windows? No, because it's impossible and the car companies know it. And even if it were possible, it would be swiftly made illegal or insanely expensive. I think the only reason Tesla's stock value was so high was because they were basically the only new car company in the developed world.

Reduce wages, health care and benefits and good fucking luck getting anyone to actually work in the factories.

YOURE A FUCKING IDIOT.

merely pretending is still being

so many boomers here stuck in the 70's and 80's, they think because something was "Assembled" in the USA that it was actually "made" here lmao

The domestic price will be closer to two as well though

Yeah, costs just went up 50% for everyone.

I can’t tell if this post is ironic or not

Of course they are going to increase you stupid faggot but the quality of the product will go up and the wage of the average american will up as good jobs come home. We are the richest country so whatever increase is price happens is something we can afford compared to them.

Vance is winning 2028 so it will be 12 years minimum.

>you WILL pay more money for worse goods

at least temu products can't get any worse

Vance is winning 2028

BRO the left already assraped him with the fat thwank yuo memes. Which is actually their first successful meme that didn't contain 30 paragraphs of nonsense.

Sure he is little buddy.

Lol this anon doesn't know about oligopoly is

Because there is no american alternative for every product you complete ninny

Also the american product would be $10

the problem is that the american booth is tiny and limited while chang's is giant. we killed off our own domestic industry

He was supposed to be already assraped with being called weird during the campaign
Also, there's DeSantis

yeah and the monkey putin meme is responsible for the resounding NATO victory in Eastern Europe right?

the coping is already unreal lmao
enjoy your disaster of a term

In the real world companies A and B pacted a price of 1.98 to kill company C which couldn't undercut its profit, and only 10 years later when only companies A and B remain (owned by the same investors btw) the gov decides to fine them without doing anything to really stop their duopoly (the companies appealed their case and got a smaller fine btw).

You're right, we SHOULD execute anyone who participated in sending American manufacturing jobs overseas. We are in total agreement.

Oh nose, 50% more!

I hate leftists faggots as much as the next guy, but this isn't going to happened when Trump announced he would negotiate tariffs.
Why would US companies spend billions over a number of years to build in the US when tariffs could be dropped in a month?

Now is the time to start an american sweatshop

In the long run, the US or any nation for that matter, will be at the whim of strong military powers if it loses the ability to wage war. Most of us have only seen the military be abused, because we lived through an era where the US had no peer competitor. It won’t remain like that forever. Not to mention, a war is not the only kind of crisis. We saw during the Covid pandemic that the US was at China’s mercy for PPE and struggled to procure enough ventilators. Of course, COVID was just a BS panic, but imagine if it had been a real crisis?

It’s not a good thing to have an economy that doesn’t produce anything tangible. The very idea itself sounds absurd.

tariffs are a tax on the middle class
simple as

Most Americans have no problem with cheap import goods because they can actually afford it. You will learn this very soon.

BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T BUILD THE FUCKING MANUFACTURING BASE BEFORE IMPLEMENTING TARIFFS YOU *STUPID* *FUCKING* *NIGGGGGGER*
TRUMP DECIDED TO ARBITRARILY RUGPULL THE ENTIRE US ECONOMY ON A WHIM AND NOW COMPANIES EITHER HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO BRING MANUFACTURING BACK OVER TO THE US OR DEAL WITH THE MASSIVE TAX HIKE
FUCKING RETARD

I can’t tell if this post is ironic or not

Why would it be ironic? Republicans constantly oppose and vote against those exact things so what about that anons sentiment seems ironic?

Yes, virtually everyone thinks Putin is a clown now in the actual real world, not this botted to hell shithole.

Jesus christ the MIGA cope is real. Completely devoid of reality, e.g., assuming there is an American equivalent product, that factories can magically just appear from thin air, that companies have money to spend to reshore after losing margins to tariffs...

slavery is actually a good thing, here's why

Don't panic, impeachment is coming in less than 2 years, we just gotta weather the storm. Lots of opportunities ahead once dems lift the tariffs.

Factories can be thrown up in months now with the majority of workers being retarded. One upside of years of sending manufacturing to thirdies.

Why would US companies spend billions over a number of years to build in the US when tariffs could be dropped in a month?

This. Businesses will never do something as huge as spending a shitload of money to relocate when they don't know if the orange retard is gonna change his opinion next day and then change is back the next week and then again next month.

yes I agree with you. If you also didnt tariff the entire rest of the world you retard

tl;wr

No it won’t.

There literally is no other way to build the manufacturing base. It’s absurd to think any government action could directly build it. People respond to incentives. The Chinese built their own manufacturing up by pursuing a similar industrial policy. If you want to bring manufacturing back to America, some disruption is inevitable.

they will never return to USA because following its laws is more expensive than paying tariffs

This. I don't give a shit about tariffs as much, that only solves the problem of punishing manufacturers who are outside the US, what is Trump doing to incentivize manufacturers to open in the US? Is he reducing the amount of paperwork/licenses etc needed to open start a factory? Is he reducing the taxes imposed on manufacturers on all levels? Is he gonna ensure businesses won't be hounded up the ass constantly by regulators and inspectors both state and federal? If he doesn't address any of these, it won't matter how hard he tariffs, American manufacturing would still be a pain in the ass.

Except he won't be paying China, but Uncle Sam. Tariffs = taxes. How do so many people seem not to understand a basic thing like that?

Reciprocal tariffs that account for currency manipulation, regulation, and slave wages will be the law of the land.

No they didn’t. Now we know you’re a DeSantoid.

I'm willing to die if one liberal dies as well. This seethe and peepee poopoo posting has been worth every dime. You lost and will never see power again. First the illegals then the liberals go to camps.

rhinoplasty jew faced americans are the americanest of americans

low-IQ take on tariffs

You're only looking at China-US exchange. the entire rest of the planet is paying $1 for Chinese goods instead of $1.50 to the US. Trump did this before and the US permanently lost $24 billion in the basedbean export market share from US farmers.

Stop making the ((( Leftists ))) look like the smartest guys in the room you fucking idiot.

That meme was made by DeSantis supporters. Child rapists like the Lincoln Project who want neoconism back.

I bought a few Sterilite buckets and an engine air filter there were made in the US.
I'm glad all these dollar stores are collapsing, everything is from China.

No they won’t. Trump only governs through executive order. The next president will just kill them if they don’t get killed off by the blue wave in 2 years that trump is directly causing

American wealth is currently a house built on sand, literally all the rest of the world has to do is say "fuck you, we're not using your dollars anymore because you are funding the Gaza genocide", and all of a sudden our service based economy is worth jack fucking shit.
Manufacturing is REAL wealth, for a REAL economy.You can't just shuffle a stocks/derivatives ponzi scheme onwards towards infinity without something actually physically backing it.

50% inflation is good bro trust me

We learned nothing from supply chains during COVID. I don't know why COVID isn't used as an an example to get rid of the globohomo.

if the US product increases to 1.99 to match the chinky one then that opens up room for competition you retarded fucking predditor

American foods are fucking poison. Most fruits and vegetables don't even taste like they're supposed to!

No being a nation of prostitutes moving money around totally makes you rich and powerful while foreign nations buy up all the assets of 90% of your population while the other 10% glaze their foreign balls.

That isn’t coming back. That’s what Trump meant by liberation day.

what is Trump doing to incentivize manufacturers to open in the US?

Bro, the tariffs are a massive incentive. People want access to US markets, it’s the biggest consumer market in the world. And he is cutting regulations.

American wealth is currently a house built on sand, literally all the rest of the world has to do is say "fuck you, we're not using your dollars anymore because you are funding the Gaza genocide", and all of a sudden our service based economy is worth jack fucking shit.

This would never happen though. There’s a reason everyone trades in dollars and it’s not to just be nice. The US is extremely stable

Manufacturing isn't coming back, deal with it.

it is, because more people work, which yields more competition for jobs, which also rises salaries
inflation is only a bad thing when it's decorrelated from actual wealth creation

DeSantis and his whore boss wife are going to prison when he’s out of office. Enjoy, Rick.

The US is already occupied by Israel anyone else would because massive improvement

Bro, the tariffs are a massive incentive.

No they aren’t, especially the way he’s doing them. Manufacturers know they just have to wait at most 4 years for a dem to take office and they’ll be gone. They’re just going to ride it out

No, he’s going to have them make it a law. Executive order simply comes first.

as if I'd support any more republicans after this shit

Yeah. 4 years later everything will be undone. Just like the kike admin from Biden. Congress is fucking useless.

If the goal is to destroy America, free trade is a great policy.

not just this but the factories themselves take about half a decade to build on top of costing tens of millions of dollars or even hundreds of millions depending on how specialized the factory has to be.
virtually no thought was put into minimizing the damages.

Manufacturing isn't coming back, deal with it.

I'm literally at my job right now, where I manufacture stuff.

There is no way Congress will pass it. 4 republicans recently flipped to give the Dems a majority on the condemnation of tariffs against Canada

If I vote for the other side things will improve!

Lol retard

I manufacture stuff

lol you wouldn't be on Anon Babble if you actually were working

It's pretty easy to get.

yes but we dont live in the perfect world
you should account greedy kikes that will racketeer tariffs to scam more money from cooomsomers

Yeah they're going to remove the tariffs because they're universally disliked. That will definitely improve things.

people used to having lots of stuff for practically nothing

i wonder what that life is like

know they just have to wait at most 4 years for a dem to take office and they’ll be gone. They’re just going to ride it out

4 years is a long time, and political future of the US is uncertain. I don’t think it’s clear that even if a Dem takes over in 2028 they’ll reverse the policy, and that’s a big if. It took a cataclysmic panic to get rid of MAGA the first time. And if the policy winds up succeeding and being popular I doubt the next dem president reverses it anyway. Anyway, certainly waiting out the tariffs is a big gamble for any company, and you’re losing tons of money in the meantime even if it pays off.

What I find funny is tariffs were a leftist cause and then Trump does it and suddenly they're economic right-libertarians.
Politics is a clown show

that's just wrong. most things are made with raw materials imported from abroad so the price will be higher too

The average leftist fag doesn't care if the line forms in front of the American billionaire's stand or Chinese billionaire's stand.

He cares that he earns $15 an hour.
So before tariffs he could buy 15 stuff
and after tariffs he can buy 10 stuff.
He has less stuff now. He must wageslave more or his standard of living goes down.

Cope

Great model, but what is not included in this, is that we aren't making the product all the time. There is stuff that the Chinese produce that we don't. In other words, if don't have the factory making the same shit, your cartoon doesn't work.
Liberals learned this the hard way with drug addicts, we wanted to decelriminalize possession and put people in forced rehab instead of prison. Gret idea, but we don't have enough rehabs or halfway houses so drug possession gets recriminalized. No infrastructure in place = failed policy. The sames true with economics, if the factories aren't in place, if we don't have the raw materials to make the same product we're fucked. Get the factories up first.

to be fair, ive manufactured airplane parts at a waterjet shop. you're just sitting at a machine watching parts run for 10 hours while shitposting.
i guess no wonder planes are faling out of the sky

Starbucks can afford to pay their workers $30/hr without raising the price of your latte

they just can, okay

This is nonsense, the US has been a world power since the late 1800s, you think we would have gotten hordes of Europoors coming over is wages were worse?

there is noting attractive about cheap chink shit that breaks after 3 weeks

A policy like this tariff is necessary to change the exact dynamic you're referring to and incentivize the market to build here instead of there.

i literally don't care and just want china destroyed

This, MIGAS should be shot on sight just because they are low IQ

It takes money away from the chinks so it's still a positive

lets see how you feel about muh chinks when you're homeless

It even outsources its own arguments.
Amazing.

Leftoids can't into economics. It's kind of a major part of who they are.

the only way to stop outsourcing to china is by placing tariffs on everything from every country on Earth

that post is too high IQ for this forum

The american product relies on foreign suppliers dipshit. we are taxing americans for accessing their suppliers

they got goods practically for free (in exchange for worthless dollars)

How does someone read that and think: "Yes, things were better before the tariffs"

They understand. But you have to remember that America bad. So this is a bad thing.

They don't exist because China dumps the product under cost into our market through currency manipulation and subsidies. The tariffs just bring them in line with everyone else.

underrated

as a thirdie, I'm baffled having manufacturing jobs is some sort of undesired thing... they're so not ready for what's coning if us dollar collapses

The point is you put the tariffs in place AFTER you’ve already reconfigured your economy. You cannot force companies to comply using tariffs when your president is elected every 4 years.

Sure they can afford it, but then they'll understaff their locations and make their workers do more labor while you wait longer.

The Triangle always wins.

except american products don't actually exist

If you don't change that, us dollar will be worth nothing within our lifetimes

And if that happens, you'll see the TRUE value of the fake service industry. Pro tip: it's not very high

The right booth doesn't exist unless you want tranny faggotry.
See: SPBP. Unless you want Bad Dragon dildos, it isn't made in jewsa.

SMRKJ

yup, this one's going in my FPBP compilation

He doesn't know how salaried positions work

Instead he has every minute of his work day scrutinized by some midwit slavedriver

Sad!

one guy profits

100 people need to pay more

quality worsens due to lack of competition

only retards think that free trade is a bad thing.

The only way America can make affordable goods is by outcheaping the cheap as fuck countries, and that doesn't come without slavery. So enjoy your made in USA products while you work 12h a day and struggle to buy eggs lmao

for things like aviation, computer chips, defense/military, core food, and other vital or high tech things, this is ok.
for t-shirts and socks and chocolate and coffee (chocolate and coffee cant be made in the usa) this gets more complicated.

The tariffs are a money transfer from the population to the government.
A tax if you will.

Theres no inherent incetive to any industry, it's just taking money from your pocket for whatever the government decides to do with it.

Starbucks doesn’t pay all their workers 30 dollars an hour. Do you think that if all the manual work they rely on to source their beans from were domestic and getting paid US wages that it wouldn’t affect the price?

The incentive is to american labor.
You choose to pay it or not.

It's a tax on foreigners and you can bypass it by producing domestically, which is the definition of the word incentive.

The memes the man himself thought were funny and shared?

Even in US stores, most baristas are earning ~$16/hr. Around $22 for shift supervisors. Maybe higher in California and other HCOL cities, but yeah, the growers are "paid well" for what cheap labor in third world countries is worth, but even then, not all of the coffees are considered fair trade and there have been accusations of child labor.

In any case, coffee can't exist without importation and paying third worlders comparatively nothing.

Foreigners don’t pay the tariffs, the domestic consumer does

We don't care about fascist american companies exploiting workers. We just want cheap shit.

American products

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And we can reorganize 50 years of offshoring manufacturing in a matter of weeks? This would take more than 4 years to unfuck and if someone other than a trump republican wins they'll stop the tariffs but by then the one way ratchet price increases are permanent. great plan!

Foreigners pay the tariff in the form of decreased demand.

Oligoply is largely created by regulations.

Short of going full communism, there’s no way to reconfigure your economy to manufacture things. Trump’s altering market forces and incentives and time will do the rest. It’s the only non-fascist way to do it. People overestimate how willing companies are to sit on their hands and lose money for 4 years on the gamble that a Democrat wins in 4 years AND they reverse the policy. It’s a coin flip at best and even if you call it right, you’re still locked out of the American market for 4 years. Call it wrong and you’ve lost opportunity to the companies that call it right. It’s not an easy thing to navigate. You’re going to see manufacturers come to the US to dodge the tariffs.

And if the policy winds up succeeding and being popular

You see, the thing is that if companies don't do what Trump wants them to do the whole plan falls through, because there are no new plants and everything is just more expensive. At that point it's a certainty that the normies are going to go back to the Dems. It's the same thing about having massive taxes on the rich, if they're too high they won't bother with your bullshit and go somewhere else, because they can.

That’s not what paying a tariff means though. That’s an effect of tariffs but they aren’t compensating the American consumer in any way for the increased prices. We pay it

Big gamble for the companies that choose to ignore the tariffs in hopes that they go away. The companies that move first to USA will get better prices on nearly everything, and their products will be first to benefit from avoiding tariffs. Lotta money to be made from complying quickly in this case.

These are the same people who love to say we're going to suffer and our food will double in price if we don't allow illegals to work.

higher prices for labor laws and environment good.

higher prices to prevent companies from firing everyone and avoiding those laws bad.

Make it make sense.

The money spent on american made goods is the compensation you nincompoop

Even if the companies WANTED to get stuff produced here, it'll take more than four years to get factories up and running and producing enough to keep prices competitive.

50%-75% of American products supply chain is in China

somehow price stays the same

The foreign producer or the importer do, because they have to compete with the domestic producer. Customers are price sensitive.

im getting compensated by paying more for everything

Did you think before you posted?

They basically shifted over the last 20 years to become the Republican Party 20 years ago. We became the Chud party, and that’s a good thing.

Labor laws and environmental regulations are themselves taxes designed to promote societal welfare. What is the difference? You force a factory to pay everybody a living wage and it responds by firing everybody and moving to China and the leftist tells himself “mission accomplished.”

You choose to pay it.
You are not forced to consume foreign goods.
American products will see increased demand.

The west is lost/done the minute they started accepting shitskins immigration

That price increase is always passed on to the consumer though

is it even possible to live in usa with only products 100% made in usa? could be cool test for a week

That's not how competition of supply and demand work.

But then you spend 50 cents more, and those 50 cents come out of your own money, and it's not like your salary increases...

If you're looking for advice on trade and the economy, a 6 times bankrupt, convicted felon is probably not the best person to ask.

No guarantee in quality. American made appliances still fuck up, and American cars have been trash compared to Glorious Nippon brands. I'm ride or die Toyota/Honda forever.

except american products don't actually exist so you'll just be paying china more money for the same stuff

And the American products that do exist always increase to match the import price.

I don’t have a choice on whether i pay more, that was forced upon me by the tariff policies

American products will see increased demand

At significantly higher prices

America raises price to 1.99 and the quality gets cutt in half

Actually in the second panel the chinese company gets 0 and the american public keeps $1.50

You niggers act like the average U.S. citizen is making 100k a year in a house they own and not slaving away at wall mart, barely able to afford a fucking 1 bedroom apartment. You're really acting like Mike who is an unemployed 26 year old alcoholic living with his parents isn't going to substancially benefit from having corporations beg him to work for them.

Do you think the average consumer won’t be paying more as a result of tariff policies?

You might be surprised. Working class people support the policy. Media inflates opposition. And even if the Democrats do win back the White House, it’s not clear they’ll be keen to commit societal suicide and permanently alienate the working class for a generation. They’ll certainly run against higher prices, but it’s not clear they’ll reverse the policy when/if (big if) they’re in office.

Kek, you'd pay more for shitty chink shit over quality products. If you were a real capitalist you'd invest in a malt liqour company because niggers are about to have a ton of disposable income.

fixed

There will be far less consumers of products competing with tariff priced products.
People just won't buy it.

You can already buy quality product you don’t need tariffs for that. You can literally buy them right now

They hate America so much they will keep buying Chinese anyway

Erase all the people but 2 on the second pic.

you speak as if USA has 30% unemployment or something

I asked you a very simply question that you didn’t answer for some reason so I’ll ask again: Do you think the average consumer won’t be paying more as a result of tariff policies?

Precisely.

The average american does not have employment. They can't pay more they have nothing to begin with. Your entire point of view is incredibly fucked by propaganda.
These people are going to start killing you at any time for survival. You need to wake the fuck up.

Not consumers of American products. No.

its about 25%, yes... lots of people are checked out

competition doesn't exist domestically

NTA, but literally any regulation or rule leads to increased prices. I mean, why do you support minimum wage laws or environmental regulations? Prices increases are worth it for those, but it’s not worth it to stop companies from firing everybody and moving to China to avoid the regulations?

Unemployment no. Underemployment and people working paycheck to paycheck? Absolutely. Most Americans could not scrounge $1000 together for an emergency.

More like Chinese shirt is 10.99 while the American wants 36.99

It just becomes obvious the left hates America since they try to act like we should keep the status quo of empowering China and weakening America's industrial position and that this is just naturally how things should be. But this reliance on China and overseas goods has grown to the point where America can no longer oppose any policy of countries like China because the bankers of Wall Street and their friends in the Dems want to keep growing trade and reliance on them.

In fact consumers of common export good will pay far less.
Corn and sọy for example.

The american product should change to 1,99 in the second iamge because you know that would happen.

The average consumer doesn’t buy only 100% American made products though. If you’re now exclusively buying American made products you’re going to be paying more

But America barely produces anything. Anyway, there will be some cost to consumers but it’s overblown and the companies will bear a significant amount of the cost as well. They wouldn’t be freaking out if that weren’t the case.

Exactly. I can buy cheap Chinese earbuds for like $20 and they're pretty fine. Not exceptional not groundbreaking, but they do everything they're supposed to do and come with decent features. The equivalent would be like paying Apple/BOSE prices for some benefit gains, but at like 10x the cost. Now scale that to other consumer goods.

That’s true but when it comes to these tariff policies the negatives far outweigh the positives. Health and safety regulations, minimum wage laws are worth the increase in prices

The price for the consumer went up 50% in your example LOL

So the Right is pro-big government regulation and price controls on the free market now? Crazy times we live in.

American Products

don't exist. We never built out our manufacturing base or the electrical grid to support it
Trump put the cart before the horse

We don’t only eat corn and onions though right

Making things in the west is expensive because housing jews siphon off 90% of wages. You will never compete with countries free of these.
Tariffs are helpful but ideally you need to ban imports entirely.

everything else will stay the same.

Lol

Corn and sọy will be fairly cheap this next harvest. That means cheap cattle feed. That means cheap US beef.
They have run on the nike model for a long time. Most compainies don't own production facilities and there are not enough in the states so the demand for domestic production is going to skyrocket and be expensive for companies for a while.

No, you feed it to cattle.

Leftists, as I understand it, unironically think fake email jobs are "good jobs Trump is cutting". They fundamentally don't understand debt or the fact they are stealing form everyone else. Or probably don't care. Either way, stupid and evil.

Deindustrialization of the country has been a disastrous consequences of labor laws and environmental laws, born primarily by working class people for the benefit of the rich. If you really believe in these policies morally, I’d have to ask why it’s okay for companies to go and abuse foreign peoples and environments. And if you believe in them practically, I’d have to ask why you believe de-industrialization is not worth reversing? Or how a society that produces nothing tangible can really be prosperous.

Don't worry about it. Factories are just buildings that make everything on site. Those pictures of final assembly lines putting an end product together definitely don't source the parts and materials from like 50 other places many of them overseas. Besides, anything in the supply chain will just be replaced by American made parts, American factories can just wait 5 years without profit for domestic industry to build a new supply chain without closing or mass layoffs.

Unfortunately the jews will increase the price of the american product to $1.99

Manufacturing gives the chuds options and leverage?

Oh so unions are coming back too?

We don’t only eat corn, onions and beef though. That also doesn’t address everything else on the market that will see a general price increase if I’m switching from a product made overseas to made in america

chinese shit is cheap because of the exchange and slave labor, are americans incentivized to DECREASE prices? No. We're basically forced to buy more expensive without choice.

You got that from the OP pic? That doesn’t make any sense

slavery

You're against raising the minimum wage and would happily let American citizens work slavewages in factories.

keep the status quo of empowering China and weakening America's industrial position and that this is just naturally how things should be

I don't know why everyone on this board is blind to what a planned economic system is. This is arranged deliberately to prevent war between the US and china by creating interdependence. This is what they do and plan out at the G20 summit, something that should be of great interest to the public that's been completely obfuscated and buried in the avalanches of hyper-propaganda since 2013.

yes, but should have made the american product 1.99

Horrible comparison. Apple is a luxury brand that produces its goods for cheap abroad and marks them up drastically at home.

Fully American made phones would cost a fortune unless companies employs Illegals (which they already do). Another way would be for Americans to start using their vast slavery network (jails) to work in these sweatshops

Unfortunately, with the way greed works, the picture on the right would have the American product price increased to $1.99 because they would just raise their price to make an extra 0.49 per unit since there's no competition forcing them to keep the 1.50 price.

What does a Jew do if he thinks he can get an extra nickel out of you? He goes for it

People's spending power is limited, the tariff doesn't change that. Even if your pipe dream of moving manufacturing at a higher cost to the US came true, people paying higher prices for the same product means less discretionary spending on other goods and services, hence overall economic activity is now less than before.

Sweet prediction bro!
Can you tell me the winning Powerball numbers?

Starbucks doesn’t pay all their workers 30 dollars an hour

no shit, Sherlock. my point is that the same faggots saying that we can't produce affordable goods without paying the workers a decent wage are the exact same morons that argue that raising the minimum wage for food service workers won't lead to higher prices for customers

chatgpt says 'fagpacket'

You're against raising the minimum wage

Because you make the minimum wage unrealistic and just cause businesses to close. If you want higher minimum wage then outlaw trade made with slavery.

happily let American citizens work slavewages in factories.

Historically those were good jobs. Until you preferred slave made imports and flooded the labor market with illegals. Democrats clearly hate the working man.

unions don't give people options, in fact they reduce employment by making it hard on anyone trying to create good job positions

unions are to squeeze as much as you can for the employer... in short, it allows for people to produce less per salary.... long term it means reduced purchase power and fewer job options, so you need unions even more, because there are fewer options which gives employers more leverage

is it even possible to live in usa with only products 100% made in usa?

The people who would attempt that test would fail it fast since most "made in USA" products are only either assembled in USA or made up of components and raw materials bought elsewhere. People are about to find out what made in America really means. They are also going to see mass domestic manufacturing shutdown when the "made in America" factories can no longer make products people can afford because their supply chains been tariffed up and down the garden path and can not weather the years it will take to get the infrastructure online for a solely domestic replacement... if people are even willing to take the massive financial risk to start funding domestic replacements instead of accepting the shuddering of said industries.

the price of american goods won't increase because they just won't okay

i like to call this one, the costco hotdog theory

American products suck ass and usually cost twice as much currently. We don't even have the manufacturing capacity or knowhow to rebuild our industrial base.

It's so over

can for the employer

*from the employer

American products suck ass and usually cost twice as much currently.

no shit, Sherlock.

If what you said was wrong and you know it, why say it in the first place? Being snarky is a weird cope

my point is that the same faggots saying that we can't produce affordable goods without paying the workers a decent wage are the exact same morons that argue that raising the minimum wage for food service workers won't lead to higher prices for customers

It doesn’t necessarily lead to higher prices when the minimum wage is increased. We’ve seen a lot of automation replace minimum wage workers to compensate for increased labor costs. Funnily enough automation has been the biggest factor when it comes to these loss of domestic manufacturing jobs, not offshoring

Not all economic activity is created equally. There’s whole industries based around big banks trying to take money from eachother. Call me crazy, but that’s not as valuable as actually producing something. I mean what would be better? A 1 trillion dollar economy producing goods or a 2 trillion economy that consists of prostitutes trading handjobs with eachother? Some services aren’t that important.

It does you fucking morons.

America was the manufacturing capital of the world within living memory. The people who think America is incapable of manufacturing are profoundly ignorant. It is government policy that has lead to de-industrialization.

because they are morons

As far as I can tell, Walmart goods is pretty fucking low on the priority lists of shit to onshore, that is why tariff is used selectively, prioritizing high value industry, NOT as a blanket tax across the board, on the entire world, all at once.

We don’t live in that same world and it’s never coming back. Post WW2 the U.S. was really the only country whose manufacturing base was untouched. Countries we typically associate with being manufacturing hubs today at the time had no infrastructure. As infrastructure was created in other countries the competition became too great with the availability of cheap labor. It’s impossible to go back

Not like we had a giant issue with shipping and deliveries 5 or so years ago that should've gotten people off their ass and start thinking of starting up factories in America.

Thank god fentanyl won’t be impacted by tariffs :D

There is a difference between "incapable of manufacturing" and building a wholly domestic supply chain that support even the current factories let alone new ones in a timeframe that won't see the industry collapse. That's even before we get into the topic of the reason why the US was such an industrial power IE being the worlds factory, something a little difficult when everyone is tariffing you back.
I swear, people take the stated intention of Trump's plans at face value and view any criticism as solely against that stated intention and not the fact that the plan itself is retarded. It's like if the plan was to rob a bank they'd act like the critics of the plan just hate the idea of becoming millionaires.

And how will americans build their products without foreign materials?

US steel was founded in 1901 and US manufacturing was dominant in the early 20th century. We supplied the entire Russian army with arms and vehicles in WWII with manufacturing capacity that had existed for decades. An industrial America absolutely could return and it’s emergence in the first place had nothing to do with the destruction of Europe in WWII

Americans are now working for $3/hr to manufacture flipflop sandals?

American product

yeah lemme just buy an American... anything.

So a 50% price increase (in real terms btw, no amount of monetary policy conjuration will change that). Congrats you've just reduced real consumption by 33%. Genius move.
Of course the price of everything is increased in autarky because you lose all that division of labor, plus raw materials, technology, etc. The entire production structure is much less efficient because it is restricted to using fewer of the potential resources.
You just hope that the resulting reorganization of the production structure ends up being a net benefit to a particular segment of the population (the new manufacturing laborers that you fetichize) even though it will be a net bloodbath of the economy at large.

Two quick thoughts on that:
How much of the world is industrialized compared to 1901?
How much cheaper is shipping with containerization?

Cheap shipping changes everything.

American products will pop out of thin air by putting tariffs in place? Did America gain access to millions of poor wageslaves skilled enough to work in all sorts of manufacturing roles along with endless new businesses that face zero red tape and get easy loans from the single party government? Oh wait, that doesn't exist either. STUPID FUCKING AMERICUNTS

When people reminisce on the lifestyle associated with a manufacturing focused economy they aren’t thinking of the early 1900s when working conditions and wages were horrible, living conditions were horrible and child labor was a thing, they’re reminiscing on the 1950s and 60s which was a direct result of the American boom post WW2

US steel production over time. See that massive dip in the 30's... tariffs.

It does have a 30% unemployment rate, at least for people under the age of 30. Its so bad they stopped counting people who have never worked or people who don't look for work as unemployed. Sure this might make sense if they're counting houswives as unemployed but we all know that is not the reality.

And besides our unemployment rate, the people who are employeed are poor wagies. 50% of people under 30 make less than 40k a year.

These are people in their 20's, they're supposed to be buying houses and having children.

The US is extremely stable

Yeah, with a stable genius at the helm.

That makes sense until you realize the US has to rebuild it's manufacturing. Not only that takes time but also money. Only large corpos will have the funds in advance to do this without subsidies, not your average entrepreneur or small companies. Not to mention Americans will have reduced buying power which will slow down the economy. A better move would have been tax cuts and grants on local manufacturing and innovation (current and future) conditioned on competitive prices, not only would this have immediate positive effects due to making investing on rebuilding manufacturing easier, but it would also avoid destroying people's buying power or slowing down the economy as well as avoiding a tariff war. Carrot > stick

My liberal whore mother made me quit my factory job

Yeah, you're out of touch. typical bourgeoisie leftist living in a big city with a big job surrounded by other bougie faggots.

I still remember 4 years ago someone made a post about child labor and working conditions. The general consensus here was "at leas they have a fucking job"

So really the question is, do you want to be homeless or do you want to work a shit job. Well as it stands even IF you can find a job, you'll still be homeless anyway.

How do you not see the growth of China's GDP and go "yeah bro, thats real actual value added to the world and not a slow dripping leak of U.S. wealth trickling down into China instead of zoomer hands.

dude learn to code

I've applied to hundreds of jobs, no call backs. I've tried to walk up to a construction site, asked to see the foreman and for a job. They looked at me like I was insane, called their buddy over who actually spoke English and then he looked at me like I was insane and said they weren't hiring.

How it actually works

True. They want people to be their slaves because they are useless, lazy, incompetent, but get hired into high paying jobs by liberal jews.

That makes sense until you realize the US has to rebuild it's manufacturing.

Thing is that the US does have an impressive manufacturing base already, 16% the worlds supply, problem is that its supply chain is globally intertwined. Rebuilding the US manufacturing with high tariffs is like chopping off their domestic industries legs above the knee and promising them replacement US made legs in 5 years but only if they can work just as hard without legs until then to afford it.

hat makes sense until you realize the US has to rebuild it's manufacturing.

Oh no, Thats going to suck so hard. They're going to have to employ American contractors to build factories. How will the economy cope when trillion dollar companies are going to have to spend 10 million actually paying American workers so that they can afford the products they produce.

What nightmare for the American working class.

Why would you ever uplift the working class? We all know your country is only as good as the highest rung of society. This is why Brazil is amazing.

chinese wages are rising so even the slave labor argument is falling appart. It's really only cheaper to produce in china because all the production is already in china and that's not going to change until someone rips off the bandaid.

Yes, this is the reason a lot of companies have actually been moving to places like Thailand and Vietnam.

you have never applied for a factory job and it shows.

The libs have no perspective what life is like for Americans

This. The leftists belong hanging from a tree

You're so full of shit. What other events took place then? Oh yeah, the end of reconstruction after WWI and military build up. You can also see the drop started in 1929, a year before the Smoot Hawley Act was signed and 2 years before it's effects could be felt. But that act was only for agricultural imports and would have no effect on domestic steel production.

Everything you've said in this thread has been complete bullshit. Shut the fuck up.

You won't believe what a rise in salaries brings

and yet even those places are in trouble once ai and automation really gets into gear, the future is having infrastructure knowledge and production in your country, not exploiting cheap labor.