increases tariffs to 125%
world celebrates
THEY ARE GOING TO COLLAPSE LIKE THE SOVIET UNION HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
increases tariffs to 125%
world celebrates
THEY ARE GOING TO COLLAPSE LIKE THE SOVIET UNION HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
incredibly based
the greatest president in decades
currency manipulation
From the guy who literally printed trillions during covid and gave it to wealthy assholes, which fucked the poors into the ground.
Not going to bring back jobs in any real timeline
Not going to make poorer countries buy our few expensive products
Will in fact add a tax to all the billions of cheap imported goods, to be paid by American consoomers to cover billionaire tax break permanency
Such Winning.
world celebrates
You know the rest of the world has not accepted to tariff china or would tariff china right?
They still sell to the entire world and they only less around 10% of the stuff in the jewsa and the tangerine retard just lifted the tariffs on the countries used by china to proxy sell their stuff anyways.
So literally nothing changed but burger market got a tampon on that bleeding wound of a market.
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Whats Lee gonna do
the greatest presi----
*CRACK*
Go back to the coal mines goy!
All the market is reacting to is the fact that Trump surrendered on tariffs. The China tariffs seem like nothing since then the market would've been more down. So guess Trump cucked on tariffs again.
If China was exploiting and ripping off America so violently for decades, how is America filled with hundreds of historically wealthy billionaires?
Many of whom are in Trump's very government? Somebody sure has been stealing from the American people, maybe we ought to look at the guys sitting on trillions upon trillions of dollars at the scene of the crime?
Trump talking about lack of respect to the global markets
I don't think anybody takes him seriously in geopolitics. They understand he has great power, but they don't thin his words mean anything, fur sure. Not after all of this.
world celebrates
Uh? What are you talking about?
The Dow exploded with excitement, the entire world is going to force China to come to the table to negotiate with the U.S. The countries Trump lifted the tariffs on all agreed to help force China to the negotiating table. It’s fucking genius.
The countries Trump lifted the tariffs on all agreed to help force China to the negotiating table.
It was real in my mind.
HOLY FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
1/2
2/2
But the result would have been exactly the same if he just tariffed china alone to begin with.
This
He's doing God's work
Everything happens its its season is the moral of this whole leftist horrorshow now thankfully coming to an end
we were just pretending to be retarded
You cant negotiate wiht China
they respect nothing but strength
they respect no rules
they steal and they cheat
the rest of the world needs to treat them like Russia
sanction them, boycott them
stomp them in to the ground
and if possible lift sanctions on Russia, because Russia actually has resources that the world needs
if he wants to make it worse for china then why is he fucking with other countries too??? wouldnt you want the rest of the world to be on board with the USA?
I don't want to you to be racist towards the chinese in the coming mondays
What the mouthbreather on twitter neglects to mention is that the EU isn't covered by the moratorium.
That is to say that the US is still a trade war with the world's second and third largest economies.
But hey, they got Israel and Cambodia to waive tariffs.
Marxist babble
You almost got in here undetected, but then you opened your fucking mouth and out came the jewish programming...
do anything
lose
LMAO BROWNOIDS OBLITERATED
MULTIPOLAR WORLD SISTERS... NOT LIKE THIS...
I kneel
The volatility was needed though. He needed the Dow to crash in order the bait China into retaliating. They did. And now they stand alone as the only country tariffed.
A FUCKING DIAMOND
MIGAtards don't care, it's a death cult
They're reacting to the relief of being rewarded for their compliance and obedience. This is how you train dogs. China will learn who is Top Dog.
This is just a cope.
It's great someone is finally doing something about China. Everyone has just been cucking to them for years and allowing them to just steal their IP for access to their markets.
China eats dogs
And now they eat dicks instead
And you are a street shitter, saar.
world celebrates
Your nigger worshipping kike infested shithole isn't the world, mutt lardass
Canada and the EU both implemented retaliatory tariffs in response to the ones Trump just cucked on
Trump and friends are literally just pretending that didn't happen and that only China retaliated so they can claim they "trapped" China and that this was 5D chess all along
muh Russia
OK you did say lift sanctions, this is good..
But Russia is fucking great, we shouldn't be messing with them at all. I wish Canada would be cool with them and America would too.
RUSSIA IS NOT AND WAS NOT OUR ENEMY.
if he just tariffed china alone to begin with
Would've been seen as unfair.
Instead, they've now been given a chance to negotiate but unlike other countries refused so it becomes justified.
That's Vietnam. Decent cope attempt though.
The markets say otherwise, Anne Frank.
That won't bring back jobs.
If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.
Europe also retaliated.
I wonder what China did to piss him off so much. We know Trump loves to get even with people.
Trump, don't fuck this up, I still want to be able to buy cheap shit from china
The volatility was needed though. He needed the Dow to crash in order the bait China into retaliating.
China would have always retaliated, just like Canada did when they were singled out and just like the EU did right before he removed them.
Instead, they've now been given a chance to negotiate but unlike other countries refused so it becomes justified.
Nigger your own fucking country implemented retaliatory tariffs along with the EU and Trump is just pretending it didn't happen so he can act like he had a plan.
What happened is Trump realized the only people "negotiating" were the poorfags and that the EU and China told him to pound sand so now he's backtracking and acting like a new trade deal with Swaziland was what he wanted all along.
If he only fucked with China the market would have dropped the same way it did. By fucking with everyone and then extra fucking with China, by stop fucking with everyone else the market recovers but he still gets to fuck with China
MIGAtards don't care, it's a death cult
it's a death cult
FOR YOU
It looks like he is making an example out of China. "If you resist we will make it worse." But hey, the Wumao say China can weather the storm. No way they would lie to us, right?
a sane mutt shows up
Gtfo you're spoiling the fun
yeah I think the big orange turd is just using it as an out, and it will probably work
holy cope lmao
why not just put the tariffs on china and spare the circus?
China can weather the storm.
Of course it can. Mutts grossly overestimate the importance of the US market to the chinks. Truth is exports to the US are barely 6% of chink GDP, i.e. about 18 months worth of growth
I think we both agree
you cant really sanction Russia, because Russia has basically everything it needs
but China would cripple if the world gets together
and the war in Ukraine is the stupidest thing in history, from both sides
what do can you offer to china?
Holy shit that's clever. Chyna ronery.
well get read for Rhina, they are teaming up and cutting you off, we're all fucked
trust the plan
4D chess
This is a ruse, right? They're just pretending to be retarded cult-of-personality miga niggers.
He could have just levered tariffs on china to begin with.
So, why are they so upset? They aren't exactly laughing this off.
The best part is ALL of china's neighbors hate them because of how shitty they've been to them over the years. This is like when Cortez kicked the Aztecs' ass with the help of all the other people the Aztecs shit on over the years.
You're a retard. You're just so fucking stupid you should go cut off your dick and balls and then kill yourself.
Chinks don't strike me as upset, they see an opportunity to seriously weaken their rival and they're going all in on it. They rightly calculate this will end up hurting the US far more than it will hurt them
Would've been seen as unfair
Everyone was hating on China for their EV build out. A lot of countries would've joined in.
Amazingly Israel was able to build factories similar to those in China. They will be selling laptops and cheap clothing at slightly higher prices than before. Such geniuses there.
get to have 125+% tariff on China
and 10% on everyone else as a treat
the markets are now just completely ok with this
spammers now want you to believe this is some major failure
?
your own fucking country
Also had both the PM and provincial premiers talking with US officials for both regional deals to specific states, and federal deals for our non-protected industries.
We didn't stonewall them.
Maybe poison 100 000 mutts per year with fentanyl. It was the opium war in reverse.
And let everyone else continue to fuck us? No. Your leaders are going to make a fair trade deals with US and you are going to seethe ineffectually forever.
Free Tibet.
I don't know. Maybe it was to sow divisions in the other countries. Already a good deal have decided to negotiate. For all we know part of the negotiation is those countries reduce their dependence on China for goods and focus on the US. Yes its a bunch of shitholes that don't have a lot of money to begin with, but it adds up.
Trade relationships make war less likely
They have also just discovered deposits of rare minerals they are willing to sell at slightly higher prices than what China was selling them for. Israel saved us!
No. That would have crashed the market the same way it did but without the paladin bubble hearth. By hitting everyone and then hitting hitting China super hard that crashes the market but by pulling back on everyone but China the market recovers but with tariffs hitting China hard still so now he’s put in a really bad spot
Do you faggots not realize that China became the biggest seller of U.S. Treasury bonds in the past few days due to the crash? Do you not realize how the world market works? Do you realize that by selling those bonds out of fear of the U.S. economy crashing, they relinquished their hold on a massive amount of U.S. debt?
Never mind Dr Shekelberg prescribing sackler's opiates to mutt masses
it's the chinks, goy
Aussiecucks, kek
and that these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way shape or form
You don't even live here and you're still carrying water for this retard
not really polls show that the majority of SEA would side with China, Russia also, NK also, Afghanistan? lol, Other -istan countries also. Mongolia is doing military drills with China and Russia
That pretty much leaves only occupied japan, occupied Japan, the the flipenis US military base/brothel, and reddit island.
*occupied korea
People on here have been saying for years China would decimate the US in a war. Why the change in attitude?
No proofs of course, but China doesn't even own enough UST to generate such moves, so you're an actual retard
For all we know
Not really an argument until we actually know
Do you faggots not realize that China became the biggest seller of U.S. Treasury bonds
I don't see this anywhere.
Trump is a total ziocuck but I fully support this. Fuck china and fuck every (largely jewish) company who has outsourced manufacturing to china. I was actually an expat in china for a decade and don't hate the chinese but the US needs this kind of leadership.
If Trump wins a war against a near-super power by shitposting...
China has been massively selling bonds since 2015.
we totally pretended to be retarded!
The tard wranglers of the orange baby are not doing their job correctly
I could make assertive predictions about this, but I would look like an ass if I was proved wrong.
Kill chabniks like drump enemy of christ enem the souls not w a juden what he fuckign create the USA as a satanic playground for non human with no right to own property for lutheran escpades
the entire world is going to force China to come to the table to negotiate with the U.S
force china
Yeah that sure worked for Taiwan, the mutlsims chinks and so on.
The absolute cope of you seething tranny faggots. Use a search engine like non-retard.
If the whole world side with the US, then we may win
So this is the power of the mutt?
Yellow niggers on suicide watch.
lol this is cope and I’m financially ruined
wasn't he "expecting China to call" since day 1? so now it was the plan all along to let them retaliate twice
That doesn't negate Trump opinion on the Chinese flooding the US with fentanyl. He has complained about it for years.
I don't think this is cope buts it's reckless. Trump's essentially given a 90 day window for countries to bend the knee and decouple China from the global economy. If this doesn't play in his favour he's going to be fucked. Definitely a calculated move to appear benevolent and scare other countries with the thought they might be left out in the cold like China.
I didn't say he wasn't full of shit.
I'm saying you are too.
Having an insane celebrity president to criticize doesn't magically give you a free pass.
Except I'm not seething, I'm lmao, at you miggers and your plan-trusting cope
Plan? Trump is a man who only knows to double down, no matter how bad the move was.
Most Americans are like this.
No thebussr never collapse president arw shit thts ot based drump ai a faggot baphometic shitpig heretic aasshwiep andbcustodian of hell on eattha a communist you are not anti communist dumb jew bot you are not anti communism dhs is fbi is communist operation nasa Satanic communist operation jews america ials of pig jewish racially up apes that cannot see outside and have a collapsed Soviet union but worse more dependent ont he world to feed thei fat asses adl Bai shit brith scottosh rite and york rite Mormons etc are the communist quakers Amish etc ball eatth fags you are a stuoid imbecilic retard you cannot be really german
The vast majority of countries trade more with PRC than with the US, Trump seems to hope that countries like mine who can do well without the US but absolutely need trade with PRC will choose muttland.
Well you didn't write it as if it was just Trump's pet peeve
It's funny too because it's actually been you flooding the US with (((opiates))) from Tasmania, but you probably didn't even know
How am I full of shit? I pointed out Trump is pretending only China retaliated so he could act like this was a gotcha and "justify" tariffs on China for no fucking reason. Saying "oh well but we were still willing to negotiate" doesn't mean anything when Trump has been crying this entire time about retaliation, not about being willing to make deals.
I expect BRICS nations to be defiant.
Was this an elevator? Where can I learn about this?
Why would you give the US more leverage over your country after the last two months? It's absolutely cope.
put tariffs on the entire world
claim that you're bringing manufacturing back to the states
EU, China, and Canada make retalitory tariffs
unprecedented global crash on the horizon due to tariff-fuckery
reduces everything to 10% blanket tariffs at the last minute, keeps 125% on China
claim victory
So are the next 4 years going to look like this?
It's only BRICS
Americans never fail to remind everyone of how little they know.
Never happened and you're a faggot.
Only 10%
We're 15% of the Chinese export market and far ahead of next closest that's still only 8%. They're fucked
Do you silly niggers not realize the US accounts for nearly a third of all global consumer spending?
muh hecking BRICS
they’ll just sell to Uganda and Uzbekistan!!
lol. Just lol
Every country will choose China over the US, even Europe.
yes, it started with TikTok
There'll be a few like Paraguay, Mexico or Colombia who may choose the US.
But it should be a nice 8 to China, 1 to the US.
remember when the fearful chinkzoid thought it would raise tariffs against its number wuan consumer because orange man bad?
Yes, Trump has displayed such dominance here that it is going to send libshits into a TDS spiral we have never seen before. They love seeing power plays like this, but the contradiction of orange man bad means they will amp up their hate fetish, like chong chingping who will present asshole to Trump at the very nearest opportunity.
LOL, this is so stupid I can't believe I am living in this reality. Surely this is a simulation.
It's not about giving the us leverage. It's forcing countries to pick which economy to side with
Because we're 15% of their export market with next closest country being 8%
The market could rise 1000 percent and shills will still find something to complain about.
I hope none of you actually buy this. Trump doesn't know what he is doing.
And except a few shithole like yours, what country would be stupid enough to side with the US? Americans can't even sell you socks.
Well you didn't write it as if it was just Trump's pet peeve
Like when what I typed was a direct response to someone asking why Trump is pissed of with Chyna?
Fuck off retard.
Don't you mean chinx?
I cannot wait until chinkbugs and russ negros suffer even more than they normally suffer. I FUCKING HATER r*ssians and ch*nese subhumans THANK YOU TRUMP fuck putin fuck r*ssia fuck r*ssians fuck chinks fuck communists, I love that we always win and they always lose.
Poland unfortunately will choose USA.
I wish I could offer my services to China, I love Chinese state more than I do Poland. In fact I have no love for this shithole at all, while I am fanatical about China.
It is about giving the US leverage. Countries around the world are looking to minimize short term damage while they diversify their trading partners. A lot of essential industries are going to reorient and look for other markets.
The world just shit the bed over those tariffs. They'll want to avoid them
communist nigger go die in ch*na
trumpstein is bluffing
if he really wanted the money back he should sanctions the personal bank accounts of the kikes that profited from the trade with chink slave labor
Best President of the Century.
Poland will because they are afraid of Russian boogieman. Of course if anyone had a sliver of brain left, they would realise we could have good trading relationship with China and talk them into assisting us with normalising relations with Russia. But hey, here's for another brave and pointless Polish war against Russia. I wonder how many cities Poland will lose this time.
The world just shit the bed over those tariffs.
No one did, but I don't doubt news in the US and satellite states have reported another might victory from president Trump.
You should try to see news from other countries, it's a good experience.
"Belgian miners in a Belgian mine elevator after a day of work in Belgium, 1900."
Isn't Poland an EU state, tho? You'll side with whoever the EU sides.
Mutts grossly overestimate the importance of the US market to the chinks.
Chinese....growth? Buddy, they're experiencing the start of massive stagnation, immaterial to Trump being President. Tons of deflation and no one spending money. They've been injecting serious money into that economy since last September with absolutely nothing to show for. When you orient your economy for decades to produce a fuck ton of stuff, thereby driving immense growth, you have to keep buying it, or finding buyers for it, to keep things running. The buyers aren't there anymore, and their top buyer is apparently fucking off.
I the next step in Trump's plan is to set up an embargo on China. No ships leave or enter Chinese ports.
Is the art of the deal just pushing shit to the extreme, see reactions than offering a good/better deal than the previous one and shittesting retards?
Yes. That's exactly what he did with Kim Jong Un
Reddit space
China will collapse, this time for real
Yeah, this time fore sure.
The best part is seeing how many China cucks and shills are on this board.
da fuck chinky gon do?
they're experiencing the start of massive stagnation
Just two more weeks, mutt
It's gonna be so hilarious to see China westernized and become nu-Japan in our lifetimes.
Trump is basically raping them every chance he gets because he knows that they're not honest actors, yet they survive entirely on us.
The EU
They could somewhat survive without the USA, they're still a powerful union and pretty much right under us in power and influence. Their comparative advantage isn't THAT great (at least western europe.) The 10% "baseline" tariff actually would be enough to keep us competitive with them while still producing our stuff, although somewhere around 15% is probably the best number. They're still relatively first-world and won't undercut us too hard.
China and her colonies
Literally the only real threat we have, built entirely off our backs and investment money. They constantly threaten, they steal, just in stolen copyright they owe us trillions of dollars. Their entire country produces no media except that one monkey dark souls, the only reason they're not westernized is their iron curtain limiting the american media influence from reaching them.
The crazy thing about China is that if the rest of the world just wanted to say
Um actually, you don't get to play dictator while simultaneously undercutting our markets and spreading negative propaganda about us
They would become unsustainable overnight. The entirety of Asia would open up and gradually stop eating dogs and cats.
The rest of the world
Entirely irrelevant, maybe some south american shitholes could have reliable power in the next decade, and even that's generous.
Retard
Imagine being led by this retard where one day he decides to create ten new problems and then have sycophants cheer for him when he fixes one of those problems. holy cope
It's war. Starve the motherfuckers. They depend a lot on outside food. Take a note from Mao's playbook.
they survive entirely on us.
Mutts actually do believe this. You're delusional, mutts. Exports to the the US are barely 6% of chink GDP
I'm not saying they're collapsing, Miguel, I'm saying that the pre-pandemic CHINA GROWTH! trope has been dead for many moons now. This shit was going to happen no matter who won or whether tariffs happened or didn't - Trump is just pouring gasoline on it at this point.
2021-2024 China grows by 5% yoy
Kek, cope harder migger
Anyone who saying why not put the tariffs on china alone is retarded.
All the other ones were smoke and mirrors. How are you gonna justify a huge 125% tariff?
Reddit space
I'm saying that actually China growing industrial output is not real, it's called pretend
Unlike the US where, finances make numbers go up while the real economy decays, one can measure the growth of China by industrial output, and it's real.
Good. Fuck China. I had enough of chinks acting like they can say shit to me. Rot in hell, bugmen.
Another plan truster, lmao
These threads are pure gold
UMA DELICIA
He is right though that China always takes but never gives. They should be bitchslapped for their double standards over and over again until they learn to play fair. Western people should be able to sue for copyrights infringements in China. They should be able to naturalize just as Chinese can in the West.
Never happened and you're a faggot.
Never happened
what is PPP
fuck you you migger.
China's industrial output is driven by slave labour. It's irrelevant to compare to western economies
no one can be this stupid...
the worse is that now we know there never was a 4D chess plan, USA just fucked his economy and relationship with trade partners forever for no reason, trump followers will still hold this as a win.
we're putting 35% tarrif on China
China retaliates
we're raising it to 125%
literally the same way he did
I visited China, I tried to eat dog, everyone told me they stopped eating dog some years ago and told me to try South Korea.
You see.... actually goods... are irrelevant... because in my country we say slave labor...
Are you really trying to say Chinese industrial production is not relevant because it's not real estate and stock raising in price like in the West?
Based on Pew's income band classification, China's middle class has been among the fastest growing in the world, swelling from 39.1 million people (3.1 percent of the population) in 2000 to roughly 707 million (50.8 percent of the population) in 2018.
Cope, Nigel
You wouldn't be so mad at us "mutts" if we were nothing. You'd completely ignore us like the Bolivia or some shit. You give yourself away just by being a bitch. We're one of the top exporters to China, on top of our real allies (Japan, SK, Australia). That leaves them with Russia. And there will be plenty of smaller ones who'd rather work with the US if given the choice.
We do trade with Chyna. Rusoids are irrelevant in this equation.
you guys are living in 2010....
They should be bitchslapped for their double standards over and over again until they learn to play fair. Western people should be able to sue for copyrights infringements in China.
Yes
They should be able to naturalize just as Chinese can in the West.
Smart on Chinas part. If there is one lesson to be learned from the decay of the West it's that allowing mass immigration is the end of a nation and its people.
Trump is the antinixon
China owned $800 billion is US bonds before they began selling off in $50 billion tranches a couple days ago. There is over $30 trillion is US bonds out there, so no China can't destroy the bond market, they can just weaken it temporarily.
nice try
i did laugh, though.
Reeeeeeee, the Chinese are not paying mister Goldberg IP, how dare them.
Based China, fuck corporate IP.
lack of respect
Very very disrespectful
you wouldn't be so mad at us "mutts" if we were nothing
I never said you were nothing. You completely destroyed my continent and my race. You are the worst thing to happen to White people and Europe, bar nothing, and that includes the fucking bubonic plague
I'm just mightily enjoying your demise is all, your cope, your sad delusions of grandeur
I don't care what is smart for foreign races. That's not our headache. From our perspective they should be doing what we tell them to.
Actually it was Britain that did that
Read a book
Same thing
If China was exploiting and ripping off America so violently for decades, how is America filled with hundreds of historically wealthy billionaires?
This narrative doesn't work, I know some people think this kind of retarded leftist propaganda makes sense but once it's pointed out that it doesn't it collapses entirely.
The USA and Europe were the most wealthy and powerful parts of the world forever. The west has invested trillions of dollars into Europe because we were told by a certain nomadic tribe that globalism was good, and we were told China would westernize from being given a stronger economy and seeing the benefits of capitalism.
Basically the exploitation comes from their anti-competitive practices they institute to maintain their industry as the dominant one while trillions pour in from the world. China was a completely irrelevant shithole just one generation ago.
This isn't accounting for IP theft or stealing of patented products or anything either.
Their entire country is built off western money and investment, but they just backstab and spread propaganda against us.
Nah, it's called the real world. China's wealth is built entirely off the west and we just let them do whatever they want in the name of globalism.
relationship with trade partners
It's just business. Nothing personal. You guys are dumber than hagglers on the streets of Thailand. They don't get this asshurt if you push for a bargain. But you guys act like bitches about everything. Is this how you actually go through life? What do you think a trade relationship? Hugging?
You ungrateful bastard
Sar, you have no sanitary place to take a shit and you eat shit on a daily basis.
Britain gave Europe to the mutts in the EU to butcher, but the one who killed the White race were the Americans.
You're just a rootless genetic abomination blissfully unaware of the true nature of your masters
slant-eyed subhumans have a melty, nice.
The Soviet union was crated by the west and Gladstone and is not collapsed it's for stuoid rabbis because freemasons fuck babies with them
The west has invested trillions of dollars into Europe because we were told by a certain nomadic tribe that globalism was good, and we were told China would westernize from being given a stronger economy and seeing the benefits of capitalism.
In all fairness, it worked for South Korea and Japan. But Chinese are fucked in the head. They destroyed their own culture long ago and it was too optimistic to hope they'd hope come around. There are more Taoists, for example, in Hawaii and San Francisco than there are in China.
"allowing them to steal"
giving someone access to something in exchange for something else = "theft"
ok retard
uhhh so why was any of that better than just raising tariffs on china?
Me mutt, let me teach you about China
Can you at least read Chinese?
4d chess
In all fairness, it worked for South Korea and Japan
Yup, it was a completely fair thing to believe in for like, I don't know, a few years? Problem is there should have been an immediate response by our politicians and investors pointing out that we're shipping our industries overseas and it's not sustainable, and there should have been a response to them not westernizing where we just took all our shit back and told them to get fucked.
Letting them go from basically 1/4 of Japan's GDP to their equal in less than a decade but getting no significant westernization out of it should have been the cue for us to start raping.
So Xi actually did something and lost anyway... my god who messed with the timelines? 3 months ago Americans were discussing transgenderism and woke
Checked and heil Hitler faggot
The US should just become its own biggest consumer. People here are so thirsty to buy "made in USA" goods, but shit just doesn't exist. We don't even grow garlic or pumpkins here anymore; those are all imported from China. It's bullshit. Why the fuck do we not grow garlic and pumpkins?! Anyway, I want to improve our industry and manufacturing at home. I'm tired if importing literally everything, I want to be done with that. Only exotic and rare goods should ever cross borders; everyone should make their own shit with what they have.
We don't even grow garlic and pumpkins
CITY SLICKER ALERT, there are like 10 stands within 10 miles of me that do in season.
What you mutts don't get is that consuming is easy, any African can consume just as well as you can, producing on the other hand is hard.
2021-2024 China grows by 5% yoy
For now, move your metric back to 2007 and watch how far it's fallen. They're falling back to reality, quickly.
one can measure the growth of China by industrial output,
The one that dropped 4.7% last year, that industrial output?
Kek, you're all right Pedro la Paco
CHINK SUBHUMANS BTFO
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The one that dropped 4.7% last year, that industrial output?
No, the Chinese industrial output that exists IRL.
You know you’re onto something when not one but two shills immediately start with ad hominems.
Sure pal. The country with literally half the entire world’s manufacturing capability is going to lose in a trade war against an industrialized nation. Wtf are you guys at Eglin smoking? And where do I get some? Because clearly it’s powerful stuff…
Right? And trump IS honest about winning. He just beat the American consumer.
Rookie numbers
No, the Chinese industrial output that exists IRL.
You're talking about the one that has fallen 3 consecutive years in a row according to Chinese government data? The sector they just sank $466 billion into to attempt to revive? That one?
China's exports to the USA only represent 15% of the whole amount.
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You're talking about the one that has fallen 3 consecutive years in a row according to Chinese government data?
No, as I said, i'm talking about the Chinese industrial output as it exists IRL, not in the mind of some coping mutt.
No, as I said, i'm talking about the Chinese industrial output as it exists IRL, not in the mind of some coping mutt.
There numbers, Miguel, not mine.
You know you're onto something when everyone in the thread who can be bothered to reply to you tells you you're a faggot.
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Why won't you believe the data I just made up, reeeeeeee
What a pathetic display.
What's the trap? Couldn't he have simply imposed a 125% tariff or imposed an embargo, without the show? I don't get it.
Trump is a dumbass.
dude you know that the us did not import from the soviet union
unlike now when 90% of electronics for the us are made in china
your game console your ophone your tv , you pc part will cost you more
and sure he did lower the tariffs on other nation but they are not gone #you will still pay more in the end
THEY ARE GOING TO COLLAPSE LIKE THE SOVIET UNION
I doubt it, they can still trade freely with the entire rest of the world, who can also act as intermediary transit points to the US.
The EU itself is a nothingburger
Nigger covid was the single biggest wealth transfer to the wealthy in modern, perhaps even all of history. Kill yourself it's fucking documented 1000% over and Maga fags would have agreed on that in 2024, but because Trump is president billionaires are ZASED again. Fucking chimps.
And that won't change. A chink worker earns an average of $200 a month for 49 hours of work. How is a 100% tariff supposed to make an American worker competitive?
Yep. You’ve got nothing. Funny how you think today’s Anon Babble is the Anon Babble of old. This place is full of shills and if you get a response 9/10 times it’s from a shill. And if they are throwing out insults and nothing more, 100% you’ve hit something the shills want buried. In this case:
china is kicking the USAs ass in this trade war and it’s embarrassing as all fuck.
But since you’re a tranny shill, well you’ll just throw insults back rather than defend trumps policies here and explain how America is winning NOT china.
Wow reality really CAN be whatever you want it to be when you just pretend that some things didn't happen and that others did.
This is literally north korean tier propaganda.
wah wah wah please read my book report on how i call you what i am
naw nigger, try to compress your drivel a bit and give it another crack
Good, fuck em. All they do is steal our tech and peddle cheap garbage that's produced from child slave labor.
we're gonna tank our credibility and reliability as a stable trading partner to own chyna
not a single major corp has or will shift their supply chains due to this. if anything they're going to go anywhere but america
Nigger, the NBS data is out there for everyone to see. They publish it. Here is the recap:
reuters.com
kek
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Acctuallyyyy I was talking of profit... production increased by a LOT... but... ignore it
We are victims of our own success. Who would have thought back then that we would become so influential that they would use vast amounts of money to control us.
third worlder doesn't understand what red means
Color me shocked.
The moment he mentioned the tariffs I was expecting some kind of tradeoff, but when he doubled down, especially on Vietnam, I began to question everything.
He is literally pretending (very successfully btw) to be retarded.
giga based chinks btfo
You don't have to come here nigger
You third worlders, just play pretend with me
Why you guys are so into games of pretend?
See? Called it you tranny. You have to go dilate now!
Yep 2016 was the death of Anon Babble. We changed the world in a very real and tangible way and thus could no longer be dismissed as a den of misfit weirdos who would never amount to anything.
I agree but we weren't on a winning path beforehand either. Might as well try for the home run. This COULD work.
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Israel even lifted all tariffs, and he said that wasn't enough. It was about his mercantilist ideas, which he's advocated since the 80s. And now he's caved because the pressure became too great. That's why he lied to his supporters about his intentions so he could have this way out.
See even more proof that the ship’s have nothing. You guys haven’t dropped a single Coherent argument about how this is a win. All you do is throw insults. What are you four? Right, you’re underpaid trannies sitting at a desk in Florida leaping as soldiers. Well soon enough you’ll end up in a meat grinder while we are sitting comfy at home.
You would say that
Don’t care shut up homo
He just beat the American consumer
American consooom doesn't die quietly. It will be 4 years of whack-a-mole loopholes as consumer want cheap Chinese shit with extra steps.
Btw, it was the same in his first term. Which ended with high subsidies for the farmers.
b-but I'm rubber and y-y-y-you are glue! Last word syndrome! I'm the winner1!11
Only brown retards respond to this specific post :^)
So china just diverts more production to vietnam, malaysia etc to avoid tariffs. 4D CHESS! GENIUS>
conveniently leaving out that boomer oligarchs and politicians deliberately decided to profit off of chink slave labor leaving the working class high and dry
we were told China would westernize
like WMDs? Like Kamala was going to win?
use your brain anon
Yep, still got nothing despite literally being told how to present an argument. And definitely a tranny at Eglin. You will never be a woman btw.
Yes, just like they've been doing for years.
Chinaman here. We are not worried about this whatsoever. We will just find new markets to sell to, including within China itself. We don’t need America anymore. This is great news for the belt & road initiative. Enjoy being poor. About time since Americans are fat pigs who don’t actually produce anything anymore.
Shipping our industries in unsustainable
Tariffs gone for those that didn't retaliate
....are you SURE those jobs are coming back as opposed to going to another cheap country that didn't retaliate?
Don't you have a dog to blowtorch chang?
....are you SURE those jobs are coming back as opposed to going to another cheap country that didn't retaliate?
A good number of them are, tariffs aren't gone, they're just at a baseline 10%.
10% actually is enough to bring back a great deal of the jobs we shipped away, which were shipped away for literally 3 to 5 cents on the dollar.
Okay, I'll bite. Will Xi go through with it this time and claim the Mandate of Heaven? So far, he's shown more strength than ever before.
MIGAtards actually will believe this.
They'll just go cash heavy. Maybe do a dog and pony show to get some US taxpayer money like Foxconn did in Wisconsin. But yeah, they're not going to sink significant money if Don is going full bipolar.
you should go back you insectoid rat
you mean we can have jobs again? finally
I still do not get it. Why did the chinks turn out to be the bad guys when they were just countering the tariffs? Mutt's logic is beyond me.
Euros believe men can be women too.
I know you are but what am I, the post
repeat yourself again for me. I demand it lmfaooo
Yes it's Guangzhouver
Americans are more than 10% more expensive lol that some Vietnamese gook.
The only thing that's gonna happen is like Foxconn they'll trot out do a dog and pony show for US tax payer money and then will abandon the project in under a decade.
But Dobby boy is straight up too much of a bitch to embargo foreign trade.
Checked and I thought Switzerland fags didn't take sides.
Turns out you are chink loving faggots
Basically yes
en.m.wikipedia.org
Americans are more than 10% more expensive lol that some Vietnamese gook.
Nope, if you look at all of the original outsourcing stuff it was literal pennies on the dollar that they were trying to invest to chase slightly higher returns. This isn't debatable or anything, you can add in your little quips and say whatever you want but they shipped away american industry to save a nickel.
And if they are throwing out insults and nothing more, 100% you’ve hit something the shills want buried
And then STILL pays tariffs. China has to crash their own economy and the pay triple to Vietnam so they can make up for selling the items for 10% higher.
Nope, if you look at all of the original outsourcing stuff it was literal pennies on the dollar that they were trying to invest to chase slightly higher returns.
You can open Alibaba and see how much something costs, then see how much a US made equivalent costs.
I'll be lucky to find something that is not twice as cheap in PRC.
Lmao imagine carrying water for kikes? Anyways you're a dumb nigger.
Vietnam minimum wage ~0.86USD/hr
American minimum wage 7.25 USD/hr
And now that will increase by 125% for each item. In order to make up the difference and still sell the item at the previous price, they would need to devalue their currency into the ground,effectively killing any hope for the Chinese man to advance
oh look we got all the niggers, china numba wan
Trump will tariff the world, bugs will have to try and colonize Antarctica if they want to avoid Orkin Man Bad
Then either companies will move to Vietnam which we are more friendly with, or China will have to devalue their currency to make up for both their tariff and Vietnam tariff. Plus Vietnam, India, and any other country China sends to WILL demand to be sold those items for dirt cheap, like Russia with their gas
mentally retarded or paid shill. PPP "loans" (grants) were misused by loads of medium and big businesses so their owners could enrich themselves off of taxpayer money in an insane wealth transfer from the bottom 90% to the top 10%. nevermind the price gouging and permanently elecated prices of the lockdown crisis.
a loophole that big as PPP can't have been anything else but corruption
China can only sell the US, everyone else is physically incapable of driving cars, using cellphones or wearing clothes, haha
Mutts...
elecated
elevated
Best president in decades and best president of the century. There are fuck tons of jobs in cyber security and am going to probably being getting over 220k. This happened to me in 2016 - 2020. Went from 65k annually to 140k annually. Trump trump Trump Trump. Fuck China in its unshaved bug asshole.
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If the sell to the US, or sell to someone else to sell to the US, they are forced to devalue their currency to the ground to make up for the cost, otherwise they lose their advantage in the market. Either way the US collects a tariff from the sale, either 125% or 10%
The statement contains some truth but oversimplifies a complex situation. Here's a breakdown:
1. "America printed trillions during COVID..."
This is true. The U.S. Federal Reserve did significantly increase the money supply through a process called "quantitative easing" to help stabilize the economy during the pandemic. For example, the M2 money supply increased dramatically between early 2020 and 2022.
2. "...and gave it to wealthy assholes..."
This is a highly contentious and oversimplified statement. The money wasn't directly "given" to wealthy individuals in most cases.
A significant portion of the increased money supply went towards:
COVID-19 relief programs: These included stimulus checks to individuals and families, enhanced unemployment benefits, and the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) for businesses. While these programs aimed to help a broad range of people and businesses, there's evidence that some benefits disproportionately went to wealthier individuals and larger businesses. For example, some argue that the PPP program disproportionately benefited business owners and shareholders.
Maintaining market liquidity: The Federal Reserve's actions aimed to prevent a financial collapse by ensuring banks had enough reserves and markets continued to function. This indirectly benefits those with significant investments in these markets.
3. "...which fucked the poors into the ground."
This suggests a direct and sole cause-and-effect relationship that is likely too simplistic.
The argument was about reshoring jobs to America.
They try to argue with it
Lmao. It's the same old retard shit that's posted time and time again, nope.
American industries were shipped overseas for literally pennies on the dollar because there was no barrier in place to prevent it. This was said to be good for everyone. It was a big thing, and globalization was a regularly talked about political issue before you were born.
You can still try to argue with it, just that nobody will believe you. The actual advantage is less than 10 percent, it's somewhere around 5.
nuke new delhi
And, for the second time since reading is a skill most Americans lacks... why China must sell to some mutt, instead of someone else?
A lot of words do say Trump printed trillions of Dollars and gave it to his kin.
I bought beer and protein with that money kek
Xi is getting replaced
While it's true that the U.S. government and Federal Reserve took significant financial actions during the COVID-19 pandemic, and some of those actions may have had unintended consequences like contributing to inflation, the statement that trillions were simply "given to wealthy assholes" and directly "fucked the poors into the ground" is an oversimplification.
The reality is that:
COVID-19 relief programs had complex effects, initially helping to reduce poverty but with benefits not always distributed equitably.
The increase in the money supply is a contributing factor to the subsequent rise in inflation, which negatively impacts lower-income individuals.
The expiration of relief measures played a significant role in the increase in poverty in 2022.
Wealth inequality remains a significant issue, and the pandemic may have exacerbated some of these disparities.
A nuanced understanding requires considering the various programs implemented, their intended goals, their actual distribution, and the broader economic consequences that followed.
I'm physically capable of pounding Brazilian girls asses
Look at this dumb fag from yesterday
YOU GOT FUCKING WRECKED!
This thread is a goldmine of amerimuttoid cope
Why not a reminder:
US offer to the world
kvetching you're the victim as you bully other nations
kikery, faggotry, deracination
sanctions, tariffs, wars, WW3 rather than the status of #2
Choynese offer to the world
deflation in all consumer goods
open source AGI
ChatGPD slop
It still says Trump just printed trillions and gave to his friends
kek
Setting up the supply chain has a high initial cost but will give savings over time. When you're trying to argue "pennies on the dollar" (I assume you mean saving pennies on the dollar rather than costing pennies on the dollar). Setting up fabrication in Vietnam is going to largely be front loaded with the gains coming on the backend. Notice how you didn't even try to argue about the income disperity between Vietnam and American workers.
being a europoor and shilling for Xinnie the pooh
How absolutely pathetic
He is going to take you retards down with him
hahaha
They can, but everywhere else's market is several times smaller than in the US, and the US is one of if not their biggest buyer. Nowhere else can make up for the loss in the US customer. It's not a question of if they want to, they have to, just like Brazil has to.
Because its a non-argument for anyone who isn't 20 years old.
um no sweaty it was an unintended consequence
They've been printing since 2008. The end is near. Let's just enjoy the show.
it's called door-in-the-face persuasion. look into it.
Why do we want China to collapse again? Why are boomers obsessed with this?
Yet it will be why American jobs already offshored won't come back. Because you STILL would need to front load rebuilding the infrastructure in the US...which no longer exists.
no, you can't prefer a partnership with Choyna, because.. you just can't, ok!?
make a better offer, muttoid
Bet he will chimp out again before the end of the next week because everyone will be using the 90 days to detach from USA and search for/create alternative trading systems.
Ok, sweetheart.
Actually Trump didn't planned on giving money to his friends, it just happened.
Do you seriously believe that customers are there, that they purchase power just exists, and this China needs the US because of htis?
better offer
They're the gibs me dat nation. They don't make offers, they just get aggressive if you say no.
American boomers would rather see their children castrated and enslaved than having to face the US not being number one on something.
Monroe doctrine yesteryear, the broke ass nigga doctrine today
See, not even trying to argue against it. Your argument is that it will stop the bloodletting of jobs leaving the US. Your argument is not that jobs that already have left the US will return because again, setting up the infrastructure is front loaded.
I wonder if Americans really hope to use the military that lost Afghan and Yemen as a threat.
Not even trying to argue against it
I said in my very first post I wouldn't and it wasn't arguable, however, you may continue making posts. You aren't entitled to arguments for low-quality posts.
well, to be fair, they are using it all the time, if not for military power this chimpout would be impossible to paper over
but yes, I think we will live to see cuckcraft carriers going to the bottom, and it will be such glorious fun to behold
I used to think like this, but seeing the easy Americans coped with losing a conventional war to the Taliban, and now to Houthis, they'll just pretend that losing a carrier means you won.
Because you know what I'm saying is correct. You're trying to frame an argument about preventing companies FROM LEAVING the US as incentives to RETURN.
Picrel
I mean 140k really isn't that much to brag about with home prices at 420k
Im a school teacher in the Chicago suburbs and pull in 135k with 3 months off
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You may continue posting, however, nobody cares. You can still post, but whatever you post won't be an argument and you're not entitled to one.
He already gave you all the arguments he had, stop being harsh on him.
2.5 times the average american salary is nothing to brag about, I babysit niggers
Lmao.
The amount of seething tranny niggers in this thread is HILARIOUS. There’s a reason 80% of the U.S. hates you faggots.
Not having enough income to afford a small apartment is not to brag about.
amerimuttoids are unmatched masters of cope cultivation, it's hard to imagine how you credibly cope out of a carrier loss when you think yourself invincible, but if possible, mutts will pioneer the method
If someone can cope this, it's the Americans.