Electric vehicles pollute more than gas powered ones

so we can blame EV owners for killing all
The insects ?

I don't care about pollution. I care about function.

electric vehicles are now bad

kek is this just elon seething now?

they're heavy so they go through tires faster. it's tire dust

i cant help it your jewish ran party tranny is setting them on fire to own the right. now can i?

From their tires because they are heavier

They also cause more air pollution by shredding more particulates from extra brake use and tire and road wear.

Still, article also admits

As a result, even an electric car recharged with clean power in B.C. will, over its life, emit about one-third what an equivalent gasoline car does. When recharged in Alberta, it will emit almost three-quarters.

i bought the v8

i couldn't stop myself.

That isnt true the ecars from the previous generation were a zero sum when it came to greenhouse pollution.

It's fucking coal power, idiot. It's still the basis of US power generation because we pussied out on nuclear. More EVs = more coal emissions.

Only the shittiest ones, and frankly I don't give a damn, if you bought a Tesla, your taste is so shit I don't recognize you as a person anymore. I mean, really, you want a car that put the glove box opener on the fucking screen?

Modern gasoline engines don't produce particulates.

Are you advocating for clean energy plants for our EVs? Great!

see this is why i don't give a damn about your climate cult

Are you an inbred stop posting dumbass hut was a leftist you kill threads with dumbass shit Hitler was a leftist

not really

wrong, but Trump wants to bring coal back kek

Lithium mine runoff and exploded batteries are an ecological disaster. Rare earth minerals shouldn't be proliferating. At least petroleum is naturally occurring. Oil spews into the ocean from undersea volcanoes and Earth deals with combustion byproducts in the atmosphere naturally. It breaks down in a self-correcting system. Besides, engines have become extremely efficient. Computerized fuel injection is down to a fine science. Practically the only emission from a new car is harmless steam and co2

EVs are useless and gay

its the torque of the electric motor that shreds the tires, not the weight.

Bro found the heaviest ice car he could

they also wear down tires like 10x faster which releases particulate and plastics which end up in your balls turning you gay or into a troon

Electric cars have almost zero maintenance or fuel costs, i dont care about the environment

why are you comparing electric vehicle to electric vehicle weights retard when trying to make a point about regular gas vehicles stupid nigger

cope

engines have become extremely efficient

two thirds of the gasoline's stored energy is immediately dumped due to engine inefficiencies

Who cares?

Most of it comes from manufacturing the ev battery and tires, dummy. This has been known for the last 7 years.

I want a nuclear RTG powered car so I don't have to worry about refueling for years

Does this mean that the Right are now environmentalists, and the Left is just a Captain Planet villain?

Yes.

If they are heavier they would also create more brake dust. I never looked at a Tesla's rims for brake dust before.

What about the inefficiencies of the powerplants, transmission lines, substations, power transformers, electrical chargers, and waste heat from electric motors in an EV?
Every time electricity is converted/transferred/transformed/re-circuited it loses efficiency.

tire and brake dust

lithium processing

coal electric plants

Electric cars are heavier and do not use transmission braking. Did you think electric cars defy the laws of physics?

Less and benefits from economies of scale, powerplants get more energy per kg of fuel because it uses most of the heat generated to produce electricity than a combustion engine only using the explosive energy to push pistons

Electronics/computer engineers are not mechanical/chemical engineers. They don't understand energy in kinetics or in chemical bonds in general.

What shithole are you living in that still uses coal? Actual civilization moved on to natgas, nuclear and renewables

Still more efficient than burning gasoline since it loses efficiency in refining and transport too

It all started when Elon purchase Twitter

EV gains are obliterated when factoring cold climates and if the driver wants to use the heater, kiss range goodbye. Hope there's a charging station within pissing distance and a few hours to kill so your car can make it back home Kek

>no combustion engine

>more particulate emissions

They are heavy and electric engines have a really high torque meaning that EV cars shreds their tires and road asphalt when accelerating. That is the source of the particulates.

Regenerative braking. Instead of using brakes it uses the energy for the battery.

I live in a shithole called America where we burn 600 million tons of coal every year.
Natural gas has to be burned as well you fucking mouth breather. Did you really believe the "cleanest burn" lie?

That electrical efficiency diminishes greatly over transmission/transformation/rectification/etc.
I mean you can open up a titanium-rated PC power supply and see where it wastes power. Every single component is bleeding heat, and many of them need heat sinks because they bleed a LOT of heat. Every single time electric current jump from circuit to circuit it bleeds energy. Hydraulics are actually much more efficient than electricity too. People think electricity is magic pixies. It's not. If power generation and transmission were 70% efficient to your house, your electric bill would be far cheaper. Huge losses of energy.

Jews want to stop goyim from being able to buy dozens of gallons of accelerant/explosive liquid inconspicuously. It's too effective against the zogbot tanks.

Just get rooftop solar with a battery. It will eliminate your electric bill by like 80-90%. Theyre cheap now and last 20 yeard

mr smooth brain didn't read the article lol:

The main environmental selling point of electric cars is that they don’t pollute. But although it’s true their engines don’t produce CO2 while driving, they do emit carbon in other ways. Manufacturing them generates emissions — especially producing the batteries, which requires lots of energy, mostly achieved with coal in China. As a result, even an electric car recharged with clean power in B.C. will, over its life, emit about one-third what an equivalent gasoline car does. When recharged in Alberta, it will emit almost three-quarters.

Because of their enormous batteries electric cars are also 320–440 kilograms heavier than equivalent gasoline cars, which means they wear down roads faster, costing societies more. They also cause more air pollution by shredding more particulates from extra brake use and tire and road wear. No one denies that internal combustion cars pollute, but electric cars pollute more in total, both from tire and road wear and from forcing more power stations online, often the most polluting ones. A recent study found that in two-thirds of U.S. states, electric cars cause more of the most dangerous particulate air pollution than gasoline-powered cars do.

Just get rooftop solar with a battery.

Yeah, I'll just go buy a $20K solar system w/inverter, pay for an installer and inspector and permits, and have to replace the panels and plumbing and get it reinspected every time a tropical storm blows through my area.
OR... Hear me out now. OR I can just keep my car and truck.

Well that's mainly because the power plants are burning coal right? The individual user can't do much about that except vote for a politician who'll support nuclear plants (spoiler alert: there aren't any). The EV is still the optimal choice for reducing pollution nearby yourself and, hopefully, when/if the infrastructure gets tuned up, reducing pollution overall.

Or if you're sick of waiting for retards in Congress to quit slobbering on the knobs of coal miners, you can do this;
and do most of your juicing at home. This is what Thomas Massie did by the way and why he drives a Tesla.

You can just do it yourself for less than half that. Even if you didnt have it driving an electric car you charge at home would be much cheaper than paying for gas on a per mile basis

The other benefit of rooftop solar is that you can make your stove, water heater and furnace electric afterwards and it will cost literally zero to operate those.

That’s a lot of words for saying heavier cars wear through breaks and tires faster.

Homeless? Just build your own house!

Would you please fuck off

I drive a hybrid so that I can both put exhaust fumes into the atmosphere AND support environmentally damaging mining operations.

Solar systems are extremely simple, even niggers living in mudhuts in africa all have solar now. You just hang panels on your roof, run some cables down to your charge controller and connect it to the battery terminals

You can just do it yourself for less than half that.

Not legally I can't. I'm not an electrician.
Why would I even do that? I pay about $1350/y for electricity. I don't have to worry about storms damaging my solar system because I don't have one, and if the roof gets damage in a storm I don't have to worry about removing the solar system to repair it. Solar sucks. Wind sucks. Every living animal on earth uses combustion for energy. Plants use the sun, but plants don't move fast.
Every animal burns shit to move. I too will burn shit to move.

Science fiction is called fiction for a reason.

not legally

Since when? Its easier than most of the home improvement projects your dad did when you were little. It will pay for itself within a few years, especially when gas prices go up

just become a licensed electrician, pay an insurance company to cover your work, bribe government officials to get your building permit on time, rebuild half of your attic according to city code, and get fucked anytime it rains!

Yeah, go fuck yourself.

Or you could just ignore the bullshit and do it yourself anyway because nobody actually cares. That or move to the south where we have actual freedom. Its not 2013 anymore, solar panels can tolerate extreme weather. Do you seriously believe the people designing the solar panels didnt know theyd be rained on?

You don't live in Florida do you? Between storms, pollen, sunlight damage, bird shit, dead bugs, etc. I have to have tree limbs trimmed, two trees taken out because they block morning sun on the roof. Also, my insurance company isn't going to let me put up high voltage electrical work because I'm not an electrician.

Everyone I know who has tried solar in Florida has pulled those things off their roofs after a few years max because they're a pain in the ass. It's technology for calculators and wristwatches.
This is what it's like in Vegas where they don't have lots of birds and bugs and hurricanes and trees/pollen-
8newsnow.com/news/local-news/solar-plant-on-i-15-near-its-end-shutting-off-in-2026-officials-say/

Stop trying to reinvent the wheel with "green" technology.

Thats an ancient reflective solar system, cleetus. It was always a retarded design and its being replaced with photovoltaics. It basically boiled water to run a steam engine, way less efficient and high maintenance than PV

I live in Florida and I've had solar panels for the last 7 years. It's unironically one of the best investments I've made. Storms don't do shit to it and the last 2 hurricanes barely affected it. Pollen is easily cleaned, bird shit, dead bugs, lmao what the fuck are you smoking retard. My electricity bill is $26 a month. 3 bedroom house with my kids running vidya every day and the wife streaming netflix. I even installed LEDs under everything and it's still low.

just do a 5 man job by yourself without your neighbors snitching to your local government officials!

It's not the solar panels that get fucked by rain, it's the roof and framing you fucking idiot.
This is how I know you're not a homeowner and know nothing about construction or electrical systems. You're very clearly an underage b&.

The NPCs in your neighborhood arent the stasi, they probably dont even know who to call if they wanted to. Are you seriously telling me you cant install mounting brackets on plywood?

I uh, don't care lol still buying electric lol

do we need to get the photos of diesel generators powering charging stations? How about the massive leech fields and strip mines poisoning ground water?

look up how much pollution lithium mining produces lmao

out of sight out of mind!

the leftoid mindset

Didn't even know electric cars were that heavy. Damn thats crazy and obvious that they're worse, it's basic physics.

your neighbors aren't middle aged female busy bodies and crusty boomers with too much time

just do a 5 man job by yourself so no insurance company will insure your property and you get your house deemed uninhabitable by the city!

You're actually a brain dead underage b&. Who exactly do you think has enough money to buy/own a house?

I love my electric smart car, my interior is black but I wish is was this colour instead.
No one can move like I can on city streets. I kinda don't want EVs to get popular because right now my cheap little gay car is exponentially quicker than the average car, but as EV adoption grows that becomes less and less true.
So please pig fat american, please keep buying ever increasing sized crossovers, it makes cutting you off and speeding away more enjoyable

You people....
I swear to god you idiots just don't understand reality. BIRD SHIT. POLLEN. SHADOWS. STORMS. CLOUDS. BUGS. TREES.
I watch Cody's Lab too and the amount of power his solar systems generate is genuinely funny. Dave from EEVBlog has issues with his solar power a lot too.
You know what I never have a problem with? My electricity, because it comes out of the side of the house into a meter then down into the ground, and all of the powerlines in my neighborhood are also underground. Do you know WHY our powerlines are underground in Florida neighborhoods? I'll give you one guess. It's obvious.

I need a bat roost though. Mosquitoes need more friends. I only have one bat around my house every night. I can hear it flying around doing its sonar.

Who cares? Electric cars are better regardless
Most people and installing solar panels doesnt require 5 people. When I bought my house I re did the entire roof myself

None of that will kill the solar panels, just make them slightly less efficient

BMW X# cars are SUVs

So is the model y

Not worth it. Costs too much here. Too much maintenance. Too much prep. I'm not cutting my trees down. I'm not going to spend the money. There's no reason to waste money on this. None. Zero. I get power from the plant, it goes right into my house. 80-120 dollars a month.
It's stupid. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

im not getting rid of my horse, a car costs too much money

Tesla model X long range weighs 5,390 lbs
Ford F150 Supercab 4x4 V8 long bed 5260 lbs

And?

It's all just the same old hard facts rightoids have been throwing out about EVs since day one. They've been right the whole time, but I'm a brainwashed tribal ideologue and can't admit I'm wrong.

Okay.

I'm not going to make it easy on myself by just paying the power company a small sum for power

no, I'll go spend $20K+ and have to do maintenance and worry about a battery exploding in my garage putting in work I never needed to do, because "green energy"

I'm not buying your chinese shit, Chang.

Its not 2013 anymore, electric cars are much better and cheaper. I have one and im never going back

im not going to pay for gas, oil and car parts because my horse eats grass for free

Elon said he’s going to hell and I suppose owning a TSLA can send you to a fiery hell if something malfunctions

They have fire suppression systems and lfp batteries now cleetus

We have a no solicitation sign on our door and the sleaziest guy that looked like he was 10 days sober from meth came knocking.

"Did you not see the sign?"

"I'm not selling anything"

Proceeds to try to sell me "free" solar panels

But the average person isn't buying Teslas, they're buying the much cheaper and much more shoddily made chinese EV's.

They dont sell those here

Yeah, and they cost more, can't go as far, take longer to fill up, don't last as long, cost more to fill up, work like shit in the cold, and probably the extreme hot too. But hey, it's got plaid mode or whatever.

None of thats true anymore

Wait wait wait...
Now you want me to buy an EV, when I already have a car and a truck? Why the fuck would I do that, in Florida of all places?
When there's a tropical storm or hurricane coming through, and my power goes out, I can go sit in my car, turn the engine on, and get an AC and CD/MP3 player. If the power stays out for 2-7 days, I can continue doing this all week from time to time to get a break from the Florida heat and humidity.

EVs suck. Nobody is buying them because they suck, their resale value is horrible, and bugs in the system makes them act retarded all the time.
wxxinews.org/local-news/2025-02-21/gm-to-lay-off-some-workers-at-rochester-plant

battery sales are flat

Damn. Amazing. Batteries fucking suck. Who could have known that the technology that irritates everyone in computing, phones, power tools, cars, remote controls, smoke detectors, portable game systems, etc, sucks?

Yet

An electric car can do that too, better even. You just havent tried one yet. I have one and its great

Recent study found

>vehicles

energy consumed by the vehicle

not the total potential energy consumed by the power plant and all the losses of the power plant and the transmission from the plant to the vehicle

Extremely dishonest energy balance and would’ve gotten an F in engineering 101

vehicle

Ford Focus
Curb weight 1,235–1,518 kg (2,722.7–3,346.6 lb) (hatchback)
1,383–1,559 kg (3,049.0–3,437.0 lb) (estate)
1,239–1,408 kg (2,731.5–3,104.1 lb) (saloon)

So you are in favor of centralized pollution?

ok I'll stop

not included

coal mining losses

coal transport losses

coal fired power plant thermal losses

electric transmission losses

changing the battery every 10 years for ~30k usd when it dies

etc

It's all still true.

lol what is this propaganda shit

more brake and tire dust because heavier

i barely ever use the friction brakes because of regen braking, teslas are known to have their brakes seize from lack of use and maintenance
Teslas go though tires quickly because people cant resist driving like a dickhead and flooring it all the time. if you drive normally they dont wear any faster than a normal car

wears down the road and costs societies more

okay communist, lets get rid of semis and pickups while were at it.

They consume as much oil as a 2 stroke now too.

Is your cobalt and lithium mining also done with green energy?
Nothing says green energy like cobalt and lithium surface water runoff into oceans and underground aquifers!

The solution is hybrids. Hybrid cars, Hybrid semis. Hybrids overcome the limitation of battery tech while allowing further expansion.

Except open source and modular technology is very antisemetic!

Compare a Honda Civic.

lmao you wish. Enjoy paying 80k more for a virtue signal and replacing the 50k battery assembly every two years retard.

Take the fucking bus then. I drive electric because its fast cheap and quiet, The battery easily covers all of my local needs and i have driven up much of the coast without issues charging. I kept my gas car for a while thinking id need it but really most of the issues people whine about never happen

EVs are more reliable and have better acceleration

BEVs run on free energy

Kek. NIMBY libtards really do believe this. And most particulate emissions come from tires, incel.

Given that BEVs are heavier than equivalent ICEVs due to the heavy battery packs, wear and tear from tires, brakes, and road wear is higher.

Still driving gas vehicles. I will always drive gasoline.

EVs don't pollute

>but you keep burning them

THOSE AREN'T REAL PEOPLE SHIT TASTE EGLON MURSK

l m a o
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this is true for the first ten minutes but then you have to recharge your little rc car for an hour

just use the BMW M5 it's heavier than the X3 LMAO

New electric cars get well over 300 miles of range cleetus

not when you're flooring it everywhere. my 2015 focus gets 400 miles

Are the chuds pretending to care about emmissions now? If EVS pollute more you should buy one to stick it to the liberals

All your accusations are confessions.

You could have just said "it's true."

You're ignorant.

in your second greentext it speaks of c02
in the first it speaks of particulates, not c02
different kinds of pollution
im more worried about particulates then c02

good thing ICE cars don't use tires kek

is too stupid to realize it's stupid

My kia ev6 gt has ferrari performance with 100% reliability and moped fuel costs

100% reliability

looks like 70% reliability there chief

A 10 year warranty on a battery is pretty impressive

all evs have minimum 8 year warranty on the battery

suck more saudi cock

EVs are a scam.

that's a 100,000 mile warranty, you'll hit that in 6 years but let's be honest: you'll sell the car before then for the next best thing, condemning this one to the scrapyard because no one wants a used ev battery and replacing it is more than the car is worth. but hey you'll feel better about the environment right?

that's if you don't hit the mileage, and they'll only get you back to 70% capacity. so 300 miles now becomes 200 thanks for playing

80k more

You're one of those retards who think Tesla's are expensive? For years with US subsidies Tesla's were the cheapest cars out there on top of being electric.
Even without subsidies Teslas go for around 40k while gas cars 30k for similar size cars while missing half the features.

thats if the battery drops below 70% capacity they replace it. they arent going to replace the pack with a special made one that has less cells retard

in 10 years packs will be cheap because more people are going to drive ev's not less. theres a reason why they are rapidly becoming more common

again tend to your saudi masters dick

muh recent study

idk, i hate electric cars but i hate people who just blindly "science" and listen to this shit. who funded the study, they prob have a big nose

And what about charging!

This is a real concern btw. There's not enough clean energy for us to recharge every single electric car, let alone once the whole world switches to EVs. We would need hundreds of nuclear plants accross the globe and they take up to 20 years to get running.

You only use brakes if there's an emergency in an EV, but the tire argument is valid, the disposal of lithium is valid, the production of lithium is valid

But we just outsource that shit to 3rd world.

So buy them and drive them then and shut the fuck up. There are no 'conservatives' or 'right-wing' people; those are all uniparty golems & plants, just like you. Traditionalists drive gas engine vehicles because gas engines are fucking cool. You Frankfurt School faggots always think there's some deep, great meaning to everything, and there just isn't; maybe that's why you dipshits love your battery powered, vacuum-sounding cars, because the no aerosolized waste gas means you can suck down your own farts better.

Measuring shit in petroleum products is stupid, anyways; gas always loses to diesel which always loses to shit that can run on 'cruder' oil. If you want a correct metric, you measure it how many gallons of water it takes to manufacture something. Electric cars have always taken more gallons to manufacture than gas cars as a result of all the extra mining and retardedly over-wrought circuitry that doesn't have redundancy in it like a gas engine does. I realize they don't tell you and your cube-farm mates this, because you're all in here and your posts are obvious, since it would annihilate every grift the 'green' kikes have been pushing since the 90s.

You lost. Take the fucking L and move on and get smarter. Banging on the same old drum that lost its snare decades ago just makes you look like an Afrinigger.

they aren't going to replace the pack with a special made one

it says right in the warranty they'll only replace it to restore 70% technology, did you not read?

in 10 years packs will be cheap

*laughs in proprietary technology*

saudi masters

what kind of cope even is this?

It's tire dust, ICE cars filter large amount of air and dust with it, they work as moving vacuum cleanerers. EV cars don't.

the Left is just a Captain Planet villain?

They always have been.

70% charge*

guess we cant have electric heat, ranges, driers, or AC anymore!

base load vs peak load
most home charging already takes place off peak hours

...and the accusation here is that he would buy two if ops post was true.

well, i think im pretty safe to say there isnt going to be two purchases in the near future for that particular anon.

the Left is just a Captain Planet villain

the left is attacking Teslas

1. Everything you listed don't consume near the same as an EV.
2. We don't produce enough clean energy and even the things you listed run on natural gas.

don't be a leftist, be righteous

Honestly buying the cheapest Tesla plaid on autotrader would be fun.

like 40k for 1,000 hp and a 2.1 second 0-60
You goys are sniffing too much gas and missing out.

You and I might not, but most people do use their brakes. I also never touch my brakes and I drive a ICE car. I'm 3 years into my new car and I still got 10mm on my pads. I just engine brake which slows my car down like 80% of the way and I lightly use my brakes to stop the rest of the way, and I drive a lightweight 2800lb car.

Society needs to run on nuclear power plants mining bitcoin so they can mine BTC as a put option and charge EV as a service.

I have charged my car off a 120v wall outlet for the last year and a half. its the same load as a toaster. Not everyone is going to be depleting the entire battery every single day. the highest load users are going to be using a 50amp 240v circuit but it only takes a few hours to charge a car at that rate and can easily happen at night

It means the mainstream left and right have both been majority-retard for generations and nothing is changing.

best verify with pg&e first what hours you should be charging partner. meanwhile i'm gonna drive to the gas station drunk i'll be back in 10 minutes

i work for electric company
I'm the one building and operating the grid

after reading all im gonna type out is a lot of you guys are idiots worthy of jobs at the corporate fake news media

Rivian can't charge on 120v and it takes like 8 hours on a 240v

Does this mean that the Right are now environmentalists, and the Left is just a Captain Planet villain?

always been

go on

I told Elon to start making Teslas with diesel engines, but this fuck didn't listen to me!

some people will but regen is very strong especially on dual motor cars. its like engine braking a manual x10 but the car does it automatically whenever it goes to slow down even if you are using the brake pedal.

bitch ive typed up novels on this shit and how green energy is a complete scamola

then people go oh that's nice and proceed to argue with some paki about who's more European than us burgers. waste of time

Also engaging the throttle on an EV like starts at -10 regen and you have 1/4 pedal to get to neutral, and then the last 3/4 pedal is where the 800hp comes in

anyways since the military and the transport industry need gasoline so much more than regular civilians we've upped the price on gasoline nationwide. 50 bucks a gallon, that assuming you have the proper paperwork proving your an essential mover. vegetable oil, other non diesal and gasoline alternatives? yeah, sure, they were cheaper and easily available....before 235 million other license holding americans got told gas was 50 bucks a gallon. anyways, toodledeedoo, your fine because you totally diversified and you didnt put all your eggs into the ICE basket, did you.

right?

Nah bro. I wouldn't buy electric. I have a hybrid though. It's true I don't really gaf about pollution at this scale. I will say I despise battery tech and I won't be buying another hybrid- even if they are zippy.

Woah I just got my electricity for the nxt 25 years for 15k up front.

alright well all you said here was some vague fucking reference to being a sparky, fuck

Yeah I have an MT. I had an 11 year old car before this one and never changed my brakes. Still had half the pads left when I sold it.

And apparently ITT people are talking about how they shred tires. I can corroborate this. Zippy little car; goes through tires like mad. I thought I was having extremely bad luck. It's actually a serious problem.

8 hours

You mean while you're sleeping?

Rivian didn't test their drive modes before release and when some dumbass used front wheel drive conserve mode as his daily he burned out the tires in a few thousand miles

Even shitty 1st gen teslas are still kicking, ill get at least 15 years out of mine. Then ill rebuild the pack myself with new modules and keep going for another 20 years

Bro you can just gasify charcoal and feed it to the engine.

is cloudy

cpap machine dies

racuous snoring causes small sonic boom

sonic boom shorts out pacemaker

die like a lil bitch

I think part of the issue of EV owners shredding tires, though anecdotal from talking to EV owners, is they never take it in for any servicing for anything. So they aren't in the mindset of rotating tires.

They're heavier so they make more rubber and brake particulates.

That dumbass? He's me.

were not sparkys, those narrowback scumbags

were men's men. you touch, you burn to death instantly. like this guy. no touchy touchie.... bad bird

kek

The issue is it needs servicing more frequently. So much more frequently it catches you off guard. Like I said, I thought I was having bad luck.

Electric cars use about a third of the energy gas cars do, a level 2 charger uses about as much energy per hour as an electric furnace. Its not that much and the higher electrical bills will compel people to install rooftop solar anyway

The Left are burning electric cars so I guess we are still slipping

thats your problem, not the military or governments.

good. just hope the government doesnt just arbitrarily decide whats your is theirs. some would recommend a gun, so hopefully you got yourself one of them there rooty tooty mcshootys.

I won’t buy a Tesla just to replace the battery in five years at the cost of a brand new gas car. God no. I’m “poor” I can’t just burn money like that

thats your problem, not the military or governments.

Yeah, that's always true. If you live depending on the system, can you really complain about it? Then you're just an uppity slave in for a buck breaking.

The app for the car is good and bad.
It'll remind you of stuff like that and if your battery voltage is low or whatever.

What sucks balls is it's total spyware and asks for every permission and sells that shit to pajeet scammers.

Only 15% of electricity comes from coal in the US. Most is natural gas, nuclear and renewables now
My apartment has ZERO natural gas. Even the heater is electric. An EV charger uses about the same amount of kw per hour as an electric central heater

The only reason I can think of if a car is going through tires like mad is: suspension/alignment issues, driving habits, not rotating tires. If the weight and power of an ICE/EV/Hybrid are equal, these are the only variables.

retard

yes yes your some sort of powerful demigod, NOW TELL ME YOUR SECRETS. what don't they want us to know

You guys should use a bunch of bitcoin miners as your heating elements so you can subsidize the heating costs by selling BTC rewards.

The primary source of electricity generation in the U.S. is fossil fuels, primarily natural gas, followed by coal and nuclear energy, with renewable sources like wind and solar playing an increasingly important role.

Fossil Fuels:

Natural gas: is the leading source, accounting for about 43% of U.S. utility-scale electricity generation in 2023.

Coal: is the second most common fuel type, contributing to about 16% of electricity production.
Fossil fuels in total accounted for about 60% of U.S. electricity generation in 2023.

Nuclear Energy:

Nuclear energy provides about 18% of U.S. electricity.

Renewable Sources:

Wind: and solar are gaining importance, with wind accounting for about 10% and solar about 6% of electricity generation.

Hydro: and biomass also contribute to renewable energy generation.

Other Sources:

Geothermal: and solar thermal energy also play a role.

It's the torque. The reason higher power cars have racing tires.

The chinese can’t build cars, they’ve never built a single one, not a real car with hundreds of moving parts it’s simply too difficult for them to understand. They can however nail together an EV which is a childishly simple endeavour so simple in fact that even I with my impatience for doing worky bollox could design and construct one probably single handedly given a few tools.

It looks like they have cars, man. Also ICE is ridiculously simple. Especially diesel.

eh, i still think its worth complaining even if your powerless to the system. it helps motivate the ones who can do anything about it. maybe.

Complaining? Nah. Shitposting dank memes? Yes.

I lumped that into driving habits, so if someone really wanted to save their tires they'd just buy less sporty tires with higher treadwear rating and use their pedal more prudently. At the end of the day, the acceleration pedal is just a control that requests the amount of torque you want. So if you want the same tire performance as a lower powered ICE car you'd select the same amount of torque.

green energy is a scam. its not economical
youll never recoup your costs
the government HAS to subsidize this bullshit, so they push the public hard to support
its not useful for load changes (think of starting a bigass furnace and motor at a foundry, its like driving a moped up a mountain tain itll drag everything down with it)
you cannot black start anything with it
its unreliable and requires constant maintenance, have wind tech bros
the amount of waste generated by all this bullshit end of life is enormous
it takes a fuckload of energy to even make this crap amd transport it

but people are retards and like to pretend they're helping like that fat retard kid from the simpsons show and can be convinced by their green lobbyists/propaganda

all electric power ALL OF IT IS NOT CLEAN THERE'S CHEMICALS AND OIL.AND SHIT THAT IS USED SPILLED, BLOWN UP, LEAKED ETC EVERYWHERE

but my mom wont let me post the dank memes i got, so whats a man to do

Costs of mass produced goods are the sum total of the energy costs to create them. Energy from burning fuels. If it costs more it is worse for the environment.

Is prior being self-destructive retards like that to own the libs was called 'rolling coal', what would the electric version be called? Rolling volts?

Every 1w of energy used by an electric vehicle represents a massive net loss in producing that watt.

That's clear now. But I drove it like my Mom's ICE suv hybrid thinking it was just "zippier" (I used that word unironically ITT) and blew out tires one after the other. If I had to properly examine it right now, I would compare driving a hybrid to a muscle car. Unless it's something super weak like the Prius, the cars have so much instant torque, you have to be careful driving it.

thanks fren. i work in computers i'll give you a secret: it's demons

the left hates Elon Musk

all of a sudden (((studies)) are telling you electric vehicles are "bad" for the environment

Too bad Apple gave up their automaking ambitions.

daemons or demons

because i know there's both in there listening to me, those dirty niggerlicious mother fuckers

no, it's demons. a daemon is just a process that's closed stdin, stdout, and stderr

Same could be said about democrats too
Both are cultists

you mean demonrats or democraps?

i used to be into all that shit back when you'd set up an FTP server to send your buddies bootleg warez. write your own config.sys and autoexec.bat. set jumpers and ide interfaces and get really fuxking mad trying to getold PCI/ISA hardware to work. got my comptia cert in 1999 while still in high school

then the field turned all lame and gay. now I just pretend to be a boomer like oh god how did this get here NEDM cat so i don't have to use email when in the office

Electric vehicles pollute more than gas powered ones

BAN TESLA!

ISN'T IT JUST CONVENIENT!?

that 1886 benz in the background

kino

kernel and below is still somewhat based, at least there's lots of whites still in the field. everything above is just containers for running whatever flavor of javascript framework is popular for browns

You can recoup, but you won't profit, lmao. The obscene profit from these companies comes from subsidy, as you've described. Presumably they must enjoy this deception as it occupies minds in a useless endeavor. ChatGPT is always trying to force solar panels into my plans.

So I can buy a Tesla and be safe knowing it will cause Liberals to be mad?

javascript framework is popular for browns

lel the meme lives on

i was watching some of those free software foundations, i forget the names, they were purging white men and stacking the leadership with roasties and incompetent browns, you may be familiar with which one

its a serious problem, but one that'll fix itself it seems through sheer incompetence. its gotta be rough being a white man in that field now isnt it, especially when they give HR lardass cat women the reign to ruin the company

Only leftist own ev or teslas republicans always buy diesel engines

years ago they had a congressional inquiry because all new construction here in this state MUST have solar, and the chinamen were using child labor. guy wouldnt answer the questions

they should be in the coal mines they havent earned the PV shop yet

i have a tesla you swamp german. the electron juice is free for me

eh not really. if you're knowledgeable you'll last forever as jeets come and go. i work from home with slack permanently set to away. occasionally i get pulled into some fire that takes maybe 30 minutes to debug and fix then i go back to woodworking. i'm on an open sail

was called a nazi for not buying an electric car because I'm killing the earth

now I'm called a libtard for the same reason

Every direction brained idiot on this planet needs to seriously smack themselves as hard as possible.

all new construction here in this state MUST have solar,

That's highway robbery.

the company i work for just bought 4 cybertrucks
they park them out by the street as bait hoping to send some democrats to prison for 20 years

you rigged the game brother, proud of you. i know another guy that does similar, when you have that kind of expertise, itll cost them far, far more contracting these jobs out to tech companies who will do it in days instead of minutes. makes renegotiating COLA increases easier as well

We have always been the conservationists.

oh yes, and chimneys are VERBOTEN. no chimney for you unless its a fake in-wall one. no burning wood to keep warm like our ancestors, or for winter ambience

Does a Hannebau run on diesel?

Also highway robbery. A chimney is an essential part of air circulation. You need the top to heat up in the sun. Without it takes much more electricity to control the climate.

Adobe Flash's actionscript is now an implementation of ECMAScript (meaning it is a superset of the syntax and semantics of the language more widely known as JavaScript), though it originally arose as a sibling, both being influenced by HyperTalk. ActionScript code is usually converted to bytecode format by a compiler.

Flash will never die.

steve jobs was a horrible monster who un

that is turbo based. god bless you and your company saar

guys at my shop keep asking me when im gonna park mine on the fag side of town and hide in the bushes with a bat

a lot of how this works is all collusion and jeet level scam artistry.

the NEC code, our de factor electric code. for example, you cannot have battery powered smoke detectors in your new home. that was a 2008 change if i remember right. they say its for safety and theyre more reliable. they all gotta be wired AC to their own breaker

guess who lobbied for that change. yes that's right, the mfg. this happens literally every single year. shoving things down your throat because "safety" or some other bullshit

Is that cooked enough to just pick up off the ground and eat? Asking for a friend.

I've only skimmed through a bit of it and

They also cause more air pollution by shredding more particulates from extra brake use

They rarely use the brakes because of regenerative braking, thus this is completely fucking disingenuous.

and tire and road wear.

Tires yes, if you drive like a zoomer, but a Model Y and whatever other EVs are hardly that much heavier than any other soccer mom gas cuckover or larger SUV or truck
This is completely blown out of proportion

Every once in a while I confront that idea again... One particular idea. That I should just squat on land. Like advanced squatting where I just build whatever I want and no one can stop me.

its buddy came lookin for it. kept doing laps above and making noise. but nah, it just went into the bucket. cats and coons are the worst. also the Africa variety of coons, those ones try to steal the copper while it's energized to tens of thousands of volts. sometimes you get to see the living dead animal shit half blown apart crawling around missing limbs

trying to get my toolie to send me the gore pix of the smoked basketball people but he's being a bitch

No shit, an overengineered complex system riddled with electronics is more expensive and pollutant than a simple straightforward motor?

just buy like a $5-10k chunk of nowhere land, lots of people do that

if you can set it up remote work man you literal can make it big time just shoveling savings into an ETF. years ago i had a toolie i worked with doing this, never cashed his paychecks as he just loved this job (it's fun non-pc man shit gig believe me) and took em all in at once a year later and completely fucked the company's finances up. they called him in and politely asked him not to do that ever again

Solar pays for itself in like 5 years

ive seen residential rates that make it work, but they DO get fat subsidies for installing it. also some turbojew utilities charge these absurd kwh rates and ToU plus service fees. it would really depend on your home situation.

i was talking about large PV arrays (solar plants) for bulk power are another story altogether, and there's different types also. some convert water to steam. there's too much to tall about

ChatGPT is always trying to force solar panels into my plans.

What kind of plans? World domination?

you guys are all fucking retarded the guy from OP image is a fag whos entire career is baiting people to buy his books with lies. he is a known liar. took me less than a minute to figure that out. go buy some iq you insects

Yes.

But I thought carbon emissions were good for plants and shit?

you can't convince me that this bad boy powered by 3rd rail pollutes more than a diesel locomotive. battery electric vehicles are the problem, not electric vehicles as a whole

For that you have to go nuclear. Only sissies choose solar for world domination plans. Fucking ChatGPT.

What about the electric batteries made from rare earth minerals, that are not recyclable ?
What about the special tyres due the the massive weight of the vehicle ?
It is all a Big Lie.

I wish my car road the rails, like a hobo.

I thought water was good for you

drowns in the ocean

the quantity is the problem not the actual emissions

My point was that before people started saying that electric vehicles pollute more than ICE exhaust they were saying the "pollution" was actually good for plants and we need more of it, not less. Because ultimately it all just starts with the desired conclusion and working backwards from there to form the argument.

I can almost guarantee it's because of tire particulates, a thing liberals frequently complain about. Bet you feel fucking stupid now, don't you.

yes carbon IS good for plants, its just too bad were not planting trees fast enough to absorb it, so all that carbon just stays in the atmosphere reflecting earthbased infrared emissions.

No, anon, the Right are now fully on the EV train, gotta but Musk's stock.
Tesla, of course, refuses to buyback their own stock now.

Electricity supply chain is less than 10% efficient, anon. And that's ignoring the manufacturing pollution and battery fires, which are devastating.
So gasoline is x4 more efficient at least.

isn't it true that a single battery fire of these electric cars causes more pollution than some ridiculous scale of gas car emissions? I would be all in on electric vehicles if there was a safe way of storing the energy which could be reliably recycled back into usable materials when the peak lifespan has run out