Jesus would be a communist
Jesus would be a communist
Jesus never existed
Monarch.
Hey Jesus wouldn't have been member of an ideological group
Even atheists know Jesus existed
Why is he picture with pirates, then? That's capitalism.
Those are refugees
Jesus would know there is an eternal kingdom of heaven beyond death that makes this world and the nations we live in comparatively meaningless and not worth caring about in the long term, so yeah he would have way less reason to care about the consequences of letting brown hordes overrun our countries
jesus was far right and patrolled the jews, he was the original chud. Also hated the globohomo regime in charge of Jerusalem bringing in migrant polytheists
I don't think he'd be a Communist as we think about it. It's hard to square Marxist historical materialism with Christ's teachings, for examplpe.
There are still similarities, but it's not 1:1.
Probably not. He was anti-establishment through and through. One of the reasons why none of the established churches make any sense to a literate person.
He would be agaisnt a violent revolution
jesus was a literal communist
Acts 2:44
“And all that believed were together, and had all things common;”
capitalists are jews all these free market capitalist philosophers were actually jews too
milton freidman etc
communism is the better system it doesnt mean u give control to a evil government though just that u share stuff
Jesus didn't tell us what the perfect political system is, that's why the bible is bullshit.
What has refugees got to do with communism? It's capitalists who are exploiting "refugees."
Yeah he was also an apocalyptic prophet that said the world was going to end during his lifetime.
We're still waiting for the fact checkers to get here.
He would be agaisnt a violent revolution
True and that's why Islam has been more successful in the past 1500 years.
he said "This generation" refererring to the end times generation of that matthew chapter about the end times in matthew 24
fig tree generation refers to israel so its israel 1948+ one human lifespan all things will come to end within this last few years and 2000 years since his resurection soon too
How is being brought in to an objectively better life being exploited
no hed just say you should start or join a commune led by a priest. Itd be closed off to anyone who doesnt join. If everyone did that itd just be a big commune basically...
At least it denounced slavery and pedophilia as sin
There's actually no proof that there was any single person that would've been the inspiration for the Jesus of the New Testament. It's likely the fictional character of Jesus from the bible was inspired by several real people, mostly by someone known as "Jesus of Nazareth" from Kingdom of Judea. But the thing is that Jesus was a super common name, like John in the US these days. And even in the case of this partical Jesus, the only things we have a relative certainty of is that he was baptized and he died later by execution, but anything in-between is a subject for debate and we don't know what else is just straight-up fabrication or metaphorical storytelling. The guy was likely some sort of a preacher, though. And most stories of Jesus from the bible are either about another guy called Jesus, who's deeds are associated to the mythological Jesus of the Bible, or they're just made up. So, Jesus WAS a historical character, but not so much beyond his common name and ultimate death.
No shit, he’s jewish
u could see alien demons teleport in front of u green people and ull find a way to say god isnt real
face it ur ideas make no sense
even tucker carlson believes in alien demons we live in a world where even the dumbest people and boomers and able to hear this stuff
If Jesus comes back he will be wearing normal clothes of our times.
Wrong, his father is God.
bullshit, read the script before spreading theese lies.
- voluntary charity not systemic redistribution:Acts 5:4
“Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal?”
- sacred status of private property:
Exodus 20:15
“You shall not steal.”
- individual responsibility over needs
2 Thessalonians 3:10
“If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.”
- helping poor as a moral duty not an obligatory action
Matthew 19:21
“If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.”
- work and profit as means to reach justice
Matthew 25:14–30 — Parable of the Talents
Jesus wasn't neither capitalist nor communist but if you would have to give him such tag capitalist would be much better fit considering everything above
It's exploiting the native working class and nationalism of a nation. The people never asked for this.
The truth exists because of mistakes.
ya voluntary but if that causes people to ignore you and go about accumulating unshared assets that are private for the few
then it warrants stopping it
jesus wanted actual communism not some communism that inevitably fizzles out when human greed gets involved
well thats how the baptists started out during the middle ages but then it became a tenth of the salary instead of the entire salary
which is bad
they shouldnt have degenerated to that level where they no longer share
the evil capitalist thought took foothold
a poison
Jesus would be a communist
well see little decentralized communes is not really the same thing...
theres also that jonestown...
what i think that jonestown was a glow op to stop the hippies
if god created all humans all humans are entitled to a certain amount of those resources
under capitalism 1% of the population has overwhelmingly more ownership of earths land and oil and gold than the others
even if it means the future generations cant exist it will eat everything unsustainably
its actually incredibly fair to just tax 100% the elon musks of the world and eat them completely
Is twerking a sin?
jesus wanted actual communism not some communism that inevitably fizzles out when human greed gets involved
again wrong, jesus never wanted any communism, helping people out of your own will without any systemic obligation and redistribution is not even near of what he said.
Communism promotes an idea that some kind of central controll system should be allowed to take from you everything above what it/they think you need and give it away to people without considering if they earned it or not just because "they need it"
while christianity just like capitalism praises voluntary help and fair pay for work, if one is lazy and does not want to work then he should not eat, nothing is free and nothing should be.
Whats more communism promotes the idea that it is perfectly fine to take from wealthy without their permission because they have so much while christianity says that taking anything from anyone without permission is a mortal sin, kind of sin that banishes your soul into hell.
He also separated us, made us look different, and gave us different languages because he didnt want us to mingle.
ive actually prayed about it god would be in favor of forcibly creating communism using the government
china and vietnam and laos and certain places already have a form of communism
if most humans are greedy capitalist scum then it warrants forcing them to be good people if you can only get like 5% of americans who are interested in communism to begin with
in the bible they would kill the king he would take the responsibility it was easier back then to have responsibility in government when its a king u can easily replace
christianity is absolutely communism its the same thing u idiot
lets take a break from politics bro can we shut down pol for a day for some peace and quiet
well theres also the amish the menonnites etc...
But i have a feeling that the amish are going to start getting picked on cause theres too many of them now.
The main problem is that its very boring
for me its anarchy bros
my problem with those groups is they just practice traditional muh life has to be shitty agriculture, look at me ssuffering for jesus bullshit man
if the menonites and amish planted food forests and chilled out a little instead of being proud of suffering then they would be cool
why they aint do food forests instead of tilling fields?
u know why cos in christianity the more u show your super god u suffer the better u are
thats anti life just on that alon u see its anti life man
Do Evangelicals really believe Christ would be anything like Trump who is great at decieving or Musk? Do they think the current leaders of America and its businesses have anything to do with Christ?
Or maybe they could believe Trump is just playing a role for a short while:
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
Rev 18:17-19
traditional agriculture is so crude man it aint gotta be like that that shitw was just from back when, they aint have the tech to do somethin beteer bro theey aint have access to all the seeds and plants and trees on the planet, they didnt have books and science n shit so they tilled and suffered monocrop shit man, killin the soil man they aint know about liftin barbells and shit like that, and food forests
they aint know nutrition aint have runnin water aint have nothin man shoot no sir nothin
that has nothing to do with communism
if we are different races in different countries you can still have communism and realize that maybe the latinos need to stay down in south america
africans in africa etc
nothing to do with european or american politics
i dont like to read that shit desu
I don't get it when am I looking for here
m so tired of it all i dont think ill ever spell anything correctly again in my life or form a complete sentence with puncuation and capitalization im so fuckin tired of it all man
so stupid
its okay im not going to join a commune or anything. The amish have boring but its super boring.
Its not like you have to do that i think.
Jesus would be a communist
Nigger are you retarded?
Jesus wouldnt force you to give up your faith, your property etc.
This is such a retarded statement the only 2 options are; You are braindead or you are a retarded nigger baiting Anon Babbletards and getting 5-6 of your discord troon buddies to spam the shit out of this thread to boost it.
really faggots like you should be permanently banned
christinaity is literally communism
communisim is secular christianity
what is wrong with you all can u not think critically?
Put your phone down for 5 minutes. Go get a cup of coffee, sit down your comfiest chair, and relax for a little bit. You'll feel a lot better
True. All right-wing Evangelical are going to hell.
thats why i dont bother with no fucking periods question marks nothin spelling, cos the people who worry about alal that are retards so stupid man
traditionally everything was spelled any which way this is all new, even sentence structure and punctuation are communism
so tired
Except white
christianity is compatible with communism so the atheists countries really messed up there
for "Banning faith"
these countries are independent and have bad things about them still doesnt mean communism is bad
communism is the better system from jesus view
capitalism is really demonic from heavens view
capitalism is the boot system where you can "fire" people and tell people to go die
communism recycles all the people who dont get used efficiently in capitalism
2: rebel against the authority
yeah like the Romanovs, who were Christians.
get a cup of coffee
relax for a little bit
I don't think you know how coffee works
Preaches about the Kingdom of Heaven
Not the people's republic of heaven
hed make an exception for gays
I actually don't even drink coffee
How far along are you in your transition Matti?
very good me niether dont look at me rite now i am int he twilight of my life i am just drugging on everything this isnt erally me, its the temporary situation
how i like to live?
no coffee no alcohol and work 14 hours a day completely straight edge and i dont want to eat a lot only a little bit
that lifestyle comes easy for me btw
and not all work ahs to be for employer than u come home u do some other shit lifting weights is work 2
anything but tv and music anything but tv vand music
Man hands typed this^ comment
we began as tribes really. Anti life. Sitting in front of the computer all day is anti life...
no alcohol
jesus drank wine
no coffee
whats wtong with it...
telling u my findings after prayer for like weeks/months
i suspected these things were true my whole life but didnt really know and thought capitalism was probably the good one but i was entirely wrong
jesus said the communism was literally the right system outright its not even close
Literal jewish blasphemy. Take the Lord's Name in Vain and twist His Word to harm His children.
didnt read, when are you getting SRS?
romanovs were bums
he is the king.
demon rats are satanists
Jesus would decapitate you on live TV for espousing such faggotry of Him
i havnt stated i was a transvestite so u shouldnt say that to me
i like the girls i post any straight male if u think about it used to collect hot babes on magazines or whatever
You're using the word espousing wrong
Nope. Not even the most faggoty secular scholars hold this opinion. Euro slaves just get brainwashed from their youth by rabbi Greenberg on what to believe don't they? Explains why they were so fucking blood thirsty to kill mustache man
based
topkek
its just discord troons again, you can tell by their overly effeminate formulated sentences.
its an exaggeration to compensate for man hands, man face, man legs and man dick, which prevents them from seeing a woman in the mirror.
All they have is anger and hate for normal, happy people, who have purpose and meaning.
Their empty lives are their own fault, but troonism is a narcissistic disorder. Meaning they cant accept fault.
they must always be blameless.
Trannies are mentally ill narcissists trying to make sense of the world and control it, hence they are here, the website full of idiots saying whatever they want or heard, accurate or not.
im not making it up
elon musk
Hed say not to harbor ill will agaisnt him even if he absorbs all the money like a black hole
But most importantly hed say this life doesnt matter and its just a test
changes flag
fucking retard
there's a memepic that does a 1:1 his quotes next to marx
trannys remove men from the dating pool and increase the supply of women and take away from womens wealth when they are prostituting themselves instead of women
we need more trannys on earth way more to combat women
trannys are a positive conservative movement i would even say they are conservative in nature
in iran they convert all gay men to trannys and cut their losses that way
tragedy of the commons
share your toothbrush with your flatmate if you want, m8
"curse of the 8th decade"? they seem to know somethings up
all these years and this axewound is still here posting the most fucking brain damaged posts imaginable like it's the devil's gift or some bullshit
Butters, Wolfsheim, Anon5. I can't believe all those posters are gone now and we're stuck with the most fucking faggoty poster to desecrate the board
well imagine you only have 1 toothbrush and you got 10,000 people someone is gotta share it right
until you get more of them
so it makes sense from a viewpoint of earths resources
the other option would have 9,999 people with no teeth which is what capitalism is
we know who you are. have you seen us in real life?
Communism has killed more commies than anything
that mutt education shining through.
A commune can still buy things from the market. Its just the priest would do the buying and redistribute it according to each persons need. The priest could even run a store. I think i heard that once that there was a store and everyone worked in it as a commune.
There is nothing written about the market on the bible other than the parable of talents though. It says he who has more will be given he who has little everything will be taken away.
Jesus would understand they were under the curse of Ham.
what if somebody sold everything and gave it to the priest what would he do with the money if it wasnt buying sonething from the market?
the jews would be the merchants selling stuff
no i just gave an example of people who worked at a store.
Are you one of those linux trans? well then youd start a software commune right?
and youd stop being gay...
buy land from enemy territory so u can expand the commune activities
it would be based on promoting the communism
not based on funding capitalist activities
God hates niggers.
That picture is of the time after He finished destroying the Tower of Babel and commenced taking the niggers back to africa where his Father put them and where they belong.
that jew show got that much right
Well see then your heart isnt in the right place. Youre trying to attack the enemy when the goal is just to share things in a tribe.
Tribes share share things by default. Someone picks berries, someone hunts, someone takes care of the kids, etc...
That was the default until private property became a thing.
nope biblically youre allowed to have enemies
imagine your tribe has pirates surrounding the perimeter you have to kill them to protect your tribe
you cant share stuff if you have people trying to take over your nation
and expanding your country and borders is important so you can promote what you want
The people in that boat worship demons
no he said love your enemies...
Jesus was a Carpenter. Do you think he worked for free you fucking retards?
old testament god is the same israel had to kill surrounding enemies many times
they know not what they do you love your enemy that way
you still have him as your enemy and need to kill them if theyre conducting criminal behavior such as murdering
dropper your L
a communist would be to the right of jewsus
Jesus would be a communist
That's simply not true.
Communism fails the test of every single one of the Ten Commandments.
It is true:
1 John 3:17 ESV / 123 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?
Luke 3:10-11 ESV / 98 helpful votes
And the crowds asked him, “What then shall we do?” And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”
Matthew 19:21 ESV / 90 helpful votes
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
1 Timothy 6:17-19 ESV / 69 helpful votes
As for the rich in this present age, charge them not to be haughty, nor to set their hopes on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly provides us with everything to enjoy. They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, thus storing up treasure for themselves as a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is truly life.
Luke 21:1-4 ESV / 59 helpful votes
Jesus looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. And he said, “Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.”
Matthew 6:19-21 ESV / 57 helpful votes
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
1/2
Acts 2:44-46 ESV / 43 helpful votes
And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts,
1 Timothy 6:9-11 ESV / 38 helpful votes
But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness.
Mark 12:41-44 ESV / 30 helpful votes
And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”
Matthew 6:24 ESV / 28 helpful votes
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
2/2
most christcucks in the world are brown...
VPN niggger
Your pasta didn't address my statement.
he began as a carpenter. Mathew was an accountant, oeter was a fisherman etc...
they sold their stuff and went around preaching.
Rather national socialist.
Jesus rejected Judaism so should you OP.
It easy to see everything through the lens of old outdated philosophies but essentially its intellectually lazy. Anyone that has rigid beliefs that the whole wold can by lumped into or excluded by is lazy. (also autistic)
It did. He was even more extreme than a communist and preached a life of self-denial without property. He was a hyper-communist, an extremist Marx. The most left-wing extremist of all time.
communists are atheist, so no
only one theory can be right
we dont live under schizoprenic changing rules that is whatever u want it to be
if christianity is outright correct u cant essentially skip the new age stuff why would you go down that path if you had the right answer already
it would be getting you into weedy terroritory ur basing things off fake stuff
Ask
Degrelle
Codreanu
Szalasi
Tiso
if Jesus was a communist.
You have still not addressed my statement.
Not true. The earliest communists were christians.
god would be in favor of forcibly creating communism using the government
no he/it would not, that is directly against free will and right to ownership which is even mentioned in ten commandments (do not steal)
also capitalism and being greedy are not neccesarily connected, what about all these greedy commies who would like to manage your money? why can't you see that it is greed as well?
Private property is actually mentioned twice in the Ten Commandments.
The commies would kill Jesus because they're kikes and he's Jesus
kek
Jesus won
Kikes seethe
Simple as can be
99.9% of Christendom in the last 2000 years was White. Europe is where Christianity was established.
1Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation (race), a royal priesthood, an holy nation (ethnos), a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Says this while literal Europeans were killing jews
Do you think that Jesus is stupid?
christcuck mutt says what
kys vpn nigger
that image is of u taking my dick before i knock your ass out
So like king charles?
BWC mating dance
This is why Socialism is the way to go.
Regulate Basic necessities, free market for luxury things
Universal needs met for everyone
haha got eem but yest that is true
we've got "You shall not steal."
and " You shall not covet."
so not only stealing is a mortal sin in eyes of god but also envy over things that are in possesion of others.
so there is no way to try to justify communism no matter if you are the person who is taking someones property to redistribute it or if you just envy people who are ricer and support that kind of a system
Jesus would have been disappeared by the communists*
Ftfy
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but communists built the high speed rail to it.
He would also be a Christian. I guess we got to do theocracy then ouch you twisted my arm fine
Not an old guard communist no; those usually did care about wealth inequality to some extent (though their methods admittedly failed).
He'd be a proper cultural Marxist; use resentment caused by wealth disparity as a blungeon to precipitate radical and destructive social change without ever really trying to actually solve the main problem.
thing is what lefties understand by "proper vultural marxist" sometimes isnt that far from what capitalists understand by "a good person"
Whenever you force someone to help others, steal from them to give it to someone else, thats not being good thats being a stupid selfcentered asshole (like robin hood or yanosik if you need any example from outside the bible)
but if you are a good person who is happy to help using your own work and money you're not a commie, marxist or anything but a good person, heck maybe you're even a good christian already and not realise it.
Jesus litteraly bleached niggers
Be Moses
have hundreds of thousands of your starving followers in a desert
force them to build golden furniture and weave a Royal pavilion out of linens dyed in red and purple
force them to sacrifice their best animals
force them to slaughter little goy boys and their pregnant mothers, sparing the virgin girls for themselves
hailed by shabbos goy christcucks as the lawgiver
sauce or bullshit
No where in the New Testament does it suggest Jesus was God. Even the apostles have to stretch their interpretation of the Old Testament to have him fulfill the prophecy of the Messiah and some things they just made up
Jesus didnt hestitate to call women whores though
at a well
He would help them in their own country, not bring them to magic soil in hopes that they can burden others
Christianity fully acknowledges hierarchy. Even the court of heaven has ranks. It approves of charity to the needy (morally just needy at that, not economic migrants) not state mandated equality.
Philistines arrive from Crete, the Aegean world or 'Greece' as we know it
they mog the Israelites
they have an early version of the Labors of Heracles as a popular folk tale
Israelites get wind of it
create Samson who totally owns the Philistines single handedly in battles and incidents that no one but his dead Philistine foes saw
has his whole tale get a dedicated book in the OT and goodgoy christcucks buy it
Except white
Well if your white neighbor is a hateful racist then of course not.
this
truth, "he was who he was" a child of god like anyone else
that does not change the fact that his teachings were and are valuable
Do communists normally say to kill people that harm children? Jesus said that.
not only stupid claim but completely false, how dumb do you have to be to make up false information instead of reading the source first
He'd murder the rich and confiscate their possessions? I have my doubts.
but muh money changers
Didn't rob them. And even if he did that would have made him more based.
Of course not, bible as a whole respects family values, ownership, freedom of choice and voluntary help, atheists making false claims based on their delusion and need for aproval of their beliefs results in such idiotic claims.
between capitalism and communism it is clear that capitalism is close to christian values while communism is more of satanic ideology (satanic as in laveyan satanism)
The Kosher Sandwich manifest. Mike Enoch was right again.
Socialist Alternative is a group of Communists in Australia; they come from millionaire families and wish to rape as many women as possible.
Tom Auld
Raped an enby
Lewis Godwin
Loves rape porn and frequently leaves women he gets pregnant, has seduced minors in the past
Tom Gilchrist
Hits his mother when he's on LSD
Max Price
Raped a girl in target and shaved Maisie's head on top of spousal abuse
Paul Coats
Sits on teaching boards for sexual abuse against children despite all this, has sexually harassed teenagers in the past
homeless neighbor
How can he be my neighbor if he has no set place he lives and literally sleeps on the street? Would be more like streetbor, or you know, a drunk bum crawling around in his filth.
you gotta save him!
Odds are people have tried and failed. Being homeless is pretty much a choice, much like being a beggar, like dude, maybe stop being a heroin addict?
gay neighbor
He's a grave sinner, tho. In fact he might need to be stoned to death. Best to hire a private investigator.
muslim neighbor
Literally can't love that guy properly until he converts, because he's a literal enemy of Christ, although not as bad as jews by any means.
black neighbor
Yeah I guess this is mainly a housing prices issue or them being criminals who should be stoned to death.
he who is without sin throw the first stone
Basically appealing to people's laziness. Just go to confession before the execution?
immigrant neighbor
Does it even say anything about loving these dudes? You're meant to show them hospitality and immediately exile or execute them should they violate Christian norms in any way.
So yeah, love him until he did something wrong and goes from immigrant to exilee.
jewish
wut
addicted neighbor
Sure, virtually everybody is addicted in some form; maybe learn to love your own addicted ass first, faggot.
atheist neighbor
As long as he keeps his mouth shut, yeah. Blasphemy? Stoning!
And we both know he won't keep it shut.
Also not going to church is sus; fun fact:
The proper interpretation of "neighbor" in the Christian sense is:
guy sitting next to you in church
If they don't go to church they are not your neighbor. It has less to do with where his house is located.
Jesus didn't make exceeptions!
We don't either lol look gais I'm literally God
Blasphemous. You don't even have 1% of the love Jesus has, faggot, no matter what you do.
Probably yes. Both share the same values.
Enjoy hell.
This
There were several historians recording world events at that time and none of them mention jesus except one who was a fake writing his accounts hundreds of years later. The new testament was written in Greek to convert Greek speakers who believed in Greek myths and that’s why they made up jesus and copy pasted all of “his” miracles from Greek myth.
Raising the dead and healing the sick? Asclepius
Walking on water? Orion
Turning water to wine? Dionysus
The list goes on, any miracle he supposedly performed is copypasta
Nigga you trolling or just retarded?
loves everybody
sends them to hell
But I was going to ask anyway: how does this spectrum work?
From the absolute love of Christ to the Wrath of God.
wrath of God totally isn't real, they made up the Old Testament!
yes he used to be neurotic but he got better!
Any non-bullshit answers to this? Would be quite logical that if Jesus embodies love then God the father embodies wrath.
and that's where you get hell from
Enjoy mental gymnastics and ceasing to exist?
Jesus believing in community is not the same as being a communist.
The most important thing he said about government was "unto Caesar", namely explaining the difference between "should" and "must".
That's the thing you faggots don't understand, it's that Jesus preached volition above all else. Forcing other people at gunpoint to be "good" is completely ass backwards.
render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's
Only just realized how incredibly problematic this line actually is. Must have said that around 25-30AD,
and it was already in 42BC that Caesar was declared a god and elevated to the Roman pantheon.
???
Now one could argue he was merely referring to the rank; and I'm actually quite optimistic he didn't refer to Caesar in his original speech but used some Aramaic term for emperor or king; if he did refer to Caesar originally that complicates matters quite a bit, because Caesar was a god by that time.
a deified man no less
like hisself
While there is truth to this it's way more complicated, and naturally some things simply cannot be known for certain.
For instance: I assume that the entire "hebrew religion" as a cohesive thing, "Second Temple Judaism", only became codified and centered on monotheism because of the Greeks. The Second Temple was originally polytheistic, and "jews" were majority polytheist until 3-200 BCE.
That would explain why all their books in their "final" form were written or rewritten in the last couple centuries BCE, where the Levant increasingly became a Greek colony, and certain jewish sects (mainly priests) antipathy towards the Greeks is well recorded, because Greek culture and religion caused people to abandon their heritage to some extent, adopting superior Greek practices.
And so hardcore monotheism actually was a reactionary movement against colonialism and syncretic polytheism. Not only did it give them a coherent identity but also stood in absolute opposition to Greek beliefs.
there's literally only one god lmao everything else is fake
But there weren't any further changes until the Romans took over, who incidentally had just elevated Julius Caesar to godhood in 42BCE, much like it would happen to Jesus, again quite possibly in a reactionary movement, because the deification of emperors did some real damage to the Roman faith, presenting Jesus as some sort of counter-pole.
Jesus would be a communist
Yeah, but communism makes a lot of sense in small scale. I'm confident if we explain Macroeconomics to Jesus he'd understand.
Wrong hes talking to people in front of him
Lets see what the communists were up to.
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No Yes. Forcing stuff on people is totally contrary to his ethics. He wants people to become communists maybe, but by their own decision and love for God and mankind, not have it enforced by the system.
And I don't think all that many people actually go to heaven either. The entrance criteria are strict.
the Politburo
You guys should be hanged
By the jews own count the messiah must arrive within the next 215 years, because then will be year 6000 by their calender, the beginning of the 7th millennium, the sabbatical era.
Have you seen what Communists have actually done and what they believe? Jesus would not be a Communist. What probably happened was that Marx and Engels probably saw a bunch of stuff that made economic sense in the Bible and took it as their own and stripped away all the Christian qualities of it.
Communists these days, especially on Reddit, like to point out the "communism" and "socialism" in Christianity except they have spent the last century undermining and destroying the various Christian religions.
The bizarre thing is that had the Communists adopted a Christian identity it may have worked. Christianity is not exactly incompatible with Communism.
Probably shouldn't disown or murder people, but taking the excesses they own would even be to the benefit of their salvation. You can recontextualize the entire thing.
but leading communists were jews
Aw geez guess we'll have to murder all the Christians instead!
No where in the New Testament does it suggest Jesus was God.
what about John 1:1-5, 1:14, 1:18, 8:58, 20:28; Colossians 2:9, Hebrews 1:8; Titus 2:13; Revelation 17:14, 19:16
Good thing he's dead
Christ is KING of kings
No, He is a monarchist.
non-Whites are dogs there are no niggers in heaven. Kill yourself Tyrone.
Communal living != communism. Communism is Satanic, atheist, and murders Christians en mass.
He was Jewish, do that checks out.
I was using Google to find out what was said about trade and the marketplace in the Bible and it pointed to the "parable of the ten minas" in the New Testament. Parable goes that a nobleman gave some money to his followers and they used the money to make investments(so I guess people taking loans to start a small business that'll help the economy and their community) while another follower didn't do anything with the money but kept it in a safe place(so I guess college educated wealthy people who go into the business world and seek out tax cuts and government subsidies but keep the money for themselves or hire cheap labor at a fraction of the cost while they pocket the difference).
So I guess Capitalism os okay as long as it helps out the community and society.
But you're right that God and Jesus wouldn't be too happy if Communists take people's wealth and livelihoods away. But Jesus and Gid wouldn't be happy either if "Capitalists" take people's insurance money and not use that money to help them when they finally have a medical emergency.
*God, not gid
Remember Jericho
They were there protecting their private property but the God of Judea wanted otherwise
Baffles me how people follow this shit but try to act like some based "warrior of christ".
Jesus had divine abilities. I do not.
No he isn't, he is King of Kings, right now.
From out of the Communist, industrialized urban centers, a confederate army of psychopaths, prisoners, atheists, and ready henchmen marched into the Russian North in the Spring of 1923, to begin the greatest ethno-religious genocide in human history...
Communist dialectical materialism is the antithesis of faith, which is why commie shitheads always try to ban religion.
Go fuck yourself, OP.
Actual Communists have taken people's property by force and sometimes even murdered them just because they thought their Marxist ideologynwas the right ideology. Those early Christians you call Communists were religious people who voluntarily went into communal living at monasteries and nunneries/convents.
I'm not religious myself but I don't go attacking the Christian religion everyday of every minute like the terminally online Leftists on Reddit.
Acknowledging Jesus is white
True
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Ancient peoples of Jericho worshipped Baal and they made human sacrifices to that Canaanite god .
Nope, God doesn't force anyone to be charitable. Forcing people to be "good" from the outside doesn't make them a heavenly person on the inside, and thus doesn't get them into heaven, which is his goal.
Any non-bullshit answers to this? Would be quite logical that if Jesus embodies love then God the father embodies wrath.
there's lots of examples of the Father's mercy and the Son's wrath found throughout scripture.
your idea isn't without merit though. before Christianity, there used to be this school of thought within judaism called the "two powers of heaven"
there are lots of passages like in the old testament like Genesis 19:4 for instance showing that God is more than one person.
in Daniel 7, there's mention of 2 thrones being set up. the Ancient of Days takes a seat on one in verse 9, then the Son of Man is escorted to him and given all power and authority and His kingdom will be eternal and never pass away.
the talmudic interpretation and debate found in chagigah 14a of what's going on this daniel chapter is pretty funny.
one rabbi says "uhhh the other throne is for david"
then another rabbi says "uhhh how long will you profane the divine? a human can't sit next to God. they're both obviously for God, one seat is for judgment and the other for righteousness."
then the first rabbi says "uhhhh why are you even making commentary on this, retard? this isn't your field of expertise, go comment on plagues and tents"
Communism is a system of theft so jesus would be against it.
kike worshippers are going in the gas chambers with the kikes on the Day of the Final Solution
Those are niggers.
How have so many people who call themselves "Christians" strayed so far from Christ’s teachings that they now willingly believe the very opposite of what Jesus actually taught......particularly in America?
Well clearly you could use money for good or ill, make "good" investments that benefit people or "bad" ones that harm them and benefit only yourself.
While I imagine the idea of "eat the rich" did exist already in those ancient days nobody dared to express that, because he'd become food for dogs.
Not like they had a lot of oligarchs back then. Even the worst landowners were tiny in comparison to what you see under Capitalism; best example being the King, or equivalent, itself; but its wealth is of a different, more representative nature, and tied to the state more closely, than him merely enriching hisself. The wealth of the lands dynasty.
Few people would get the idea to divide this among the common rabble. They accepted it as a natural part of erxistence that some people were more poor and other more rich, sometimes with good reason, and sometimes for no reason. Artificial leveling wasn't possible then and it's not possible now. Why would someone genuinely competent and productive be treated the same as an incompetent menial laborer?
what exactly are you referring to?
i agree they have, but i'm talking about things like "uhhh there's nothing wrong with a man sucking another man's dick" rather than "uhhh our government shouldn't allow in 3 billion muslim jihadis"
That's certainly interesting and also reasonable. The mercy of God is assumed to be quite broad, very broad, some would say infinite or absolute;
but at the same time clearly there is some kind of limit. And you will not fare well beyond this limit.
The modern perspective may be skewed by all the softening that happened to the faith over the centuries. Some believe all faithful in good standing will go to heaven; it reached the point of outright disregarding some of Jesus statements,
broadening both the application of absolute salvation as well as its meaning; all while there's a lot of disagreement on the exact nature of the afterlife to begin with, the world to come, what exactly happens to the dead and when, and so on.
Shalom
Anon Babble?
jesus said jews were satan therefore lynch all niggers and jews
normal people?
i like money! i donate money but i get more money
I think there should be "Christianity 2" were you follow the rules God laid out and just keep quiet about it
Jesus would actually call them pigs and dogs and send them away because his teachings were only for Jews.
genesis 19:4
i meant 19:24, the hebrew is "Yahweh rains down fire and brimstone from Yahweh in heaven" indicating Yahweh is in 2 locations
The Lord said "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's" which explicitly meant to follow hte laws of the land. All the niggerinos breaking into western countries are being eaten by orcas because they are breaking divine law.
So would Muhammod.
Are you a muslim, offbyonanon?
Because while I know things about Muhammad I don't feel like I can judge this adequately, yet my gut feeling says Muhammad is less of a communism supporter and more concerned with absolute submission to Allah.
Islam also is more political by design, but I think Muhammad wasn't the one chiefly responsible for this, but his successors. The Quran itself is fine. It's no worse than the other abrahamic books (besides the Talmud?).
No because he didn't like the pharisees and there are 10 verses saying not to intermix
12 tribes
12 gates for the new Jerusalem
12 apostles
12 showbread in the temple
If you think "jews" in the bible are a genetic lineage, you're completely blind to the symbolism, and thus, the real message.
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oh youre stuck with much worse than that, pleb FUCK
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