China’s rise is over

China’s rise is over

paper tiger

Jews hate China.
Jews are afraid of China.
Jews want gentiles to destroy themselves fighting China for them, as all as Arabs.
China is incompatible with Jews.
They cannot infiltrate it. They cannot blend in. Only people claiming otherwise are literal meth smoking flat earthers. China straight up declared Judaism a subversive fake religion.

no mention of how much a t-shirt will now cost at a wal-mart

noooo what do you mean i cant have cheap garbage produced by slaves anymore?

get fucked, jew.

He isn't saying China is collapsing you retard, but that their free gravy train is over, as it well should be. Companies were too lazy to move despite US government insistence, so now they're forcing the issue. That's really all it is.

Sounds like cope desu. There is no alternative cheap enough.

wasnt this corny whiny fag the one acting like the tariffs were a massive mistake and would cause immense harm to the US? Now China's the one in utter danger? Which is it? Why is the narrative being shifted.

inb4 it's both

That's not how these dynamics work in trade.

China has three options:

1. Concede defeat to whatever terms Trump demands
2. Devalue the yuan by 20-40%
3. Unleash biggest fiscal stimulus in its history (talking $2-3 trillion) which will push its debt off the chart

China is losing this battle. The US baited Xi and he fell for the trap.

alternative suppliers
lol
all the made in mexico and vietnam crap are chinese also

their free gravy train is over

You're a delusional fucking retard.
The US has had a "free gravy train".
The US has had a massive deficit where dollars which will depreciate are sent out in exchange machines and metals. The US ships out fiat currency and gets gold in return. The US has one of the highest wages on the planet. The US produces more steel than China per capita, more cars per capita, more everything. China was never a manufacturing giant, that's all literal hysteria, you're being brainwashed.

US has the strongest internal manufacturing industry on the planet and now tariffs are being raised because... the manufacturing sector is falling?? What? Ports will be closed. Material will be more expensive. You won't be able to sell stuff overseas so you'll have to produce less. Tell me, will "producing less" cause the market to hire more workers?
Manufacturing is about to get fucked.

Jews put conservatives into a state of mass delusion, it's insane.

China can’t win this with the simple import/export ratios massively skewed in the US favour. For too long China has bullied and manipulated trade markets and other countries. Including the US. Finally the US has said enough.

Britania rules the waves sar!

all the way!

Not seeing that, really. Most Chinese are poor, so they can withstand way more pain than Americans can. If they take the time to work with the EU, it will be the US that becomes the bagholder down the road. The EU can't endure the temporary victory it's given to Trump.

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yawn

implying only slave labor products is being tariffed

implying America doesn't rely on slave labor through having the largest prison economy and population in the world.

Piece of financial advice, you don't open up new markets or make new friends by calling them shitholes, let alone playing with their money and livelihoods.

For too long China has bullied and manipulated trade markets and other countries. Including the US. Finally the US has said enough.

This is a fucking bot. No way a human being is writing this shit.

"Chinas ha bullied and manipulated trade markets and other countries"

Are you fucking kidding me? China is an isolationist country with high tariffs. China has a minimum of 6.5% trade tax on everything leaving its borders, which was considered high until Trump announced his 10% tariffs.

Every retarded Trump supporter I see on twitter and on Anon Babble has become a literal drone. You're living in a fictional world. You're allowing your government to create an economic crisis out of thin air.

the EU will The EU will the EU will

The EU doesn't have the wealth or population to replace the US for chinese consumption, and no other countries COMBINED have enough wealth to match US consumption if they walk away from China, not to mention the Chinese would starve without US agriculture.

China needs the US FAR more than the US needs their cheap slave made junk.

US has the strongest internal manufacturing industry on the planet.

Lmao no. We can’t even make decent CNC machine tools. Literally all heavy industrial equipment comes from Europe and east asia. Go to any factory in the US and it’s all German and Japanese machinery making everything

The Zion Don tariffs are so obviously harmful that the stock market has no gained anything since it was announced.
Every time Zion don hints at pausing, or doubting the tariffs, the market shoots up sniffing the hopium that this policy will be entirely removed. Every time Trump talks about how the tariffs will be used to gather revenue, or that he's "fixing the horrible trade deficit", the markets consistently tank.

noooo you don't understand we NEEEEED chinese slaves and prison labour because...

because we just do okay goyim now shut up and stop calling shitholes shitholes because something something US prisons (that are being reformed anyway)

Also, most of that US prison "labour" is in the form of rehab and work programs that give prisoners skills they can use to find employment onxe they're out of the prison system, and they're still paid for the work they do.

rmao jews

chinks are just as bad as jews and don’t even have a culture. They sucked off that nigger streamer because they are afraid. They might lose their gravy train of selling cheap shit and their propaganda outlet tiktok at the same time. And what can they do then? Hmm

China's rise is over. The rise of Eastern European has just begun. My company has been manufacturing our electronics products in Hungary for the past 10 years exclusively for American customers. Our management somehow saw that one coming. Our Chinese factories only supply to Asia and Europe.

Where can I get a microwave that is manufactured in the US
At least two stupid people will reply to this with an American company that just rebrands Midea microwaves

jew flag

lying, gaslighting, and talking mad shit in a panic

Classic lmao

suppliers will move production from china to vietnam
production cost will go from $5 to $5.50
Walmart will make the producer eat the loss

Only because jews dismantled and firesold your industry.

You still have the skilled tradesmen and smaller machining shops that can be subsidized to get it done.

Yes, and production lines/gear in Vietnam are made in China. If companies in China will go bankrupt, Vietnam will have no production lines. This is simple logic that's not accessible to migatards.

I get your point but you can’t just pay some small boomer shops to start making machine tools on the same level as Okuma or Mori-Seiki. We’re fifty years behind

You're a delusional fat boomer piece of shit who fell for a fucking alternative-reality type propaganda, and that's not even the scary part, the scary part is that your president and everyone who's in charge of your country might actually be equally delusional.

The US is one of the biggest per capita produces of literally every fucking thing you can imagine that actually matters. Steel, cars, largest homes, microchips, and more. What exactly do you want to manufacture you fucking moron? Cheap t-shirts? Microwaves? Plastic toys?

Squeeze those pan-shaped heads into the wall Kev!

People in the 80s thought the Japanese were gonna take over the world with their economic might, and now people in the 20s think the same about the Chinese. As for me? I can't tell them apart

Moves Away from China to Vietnam

TRUMP stupidity introduces unilateral 46% tariff to Vietnam

China has 4 year of "Do nothing, Win" as long as the orange clown is on charge

What happens to congress that have been giving everything to China because it has bought them wholesale their family friends and business associates and they do everything for China. Fang Fang. All their China connections are suffering. They must be panicking. Once you take the money you owe them. Dominoes are going to fall.

copium. China would win. Yeah go buy more craps from mexico and india. Im sure that would help the US to win China.

more like bill AAAACKman after the past week in trading.

does he know a whopping total of 8% of china's exports are to the US? and that export trade is 37% of china's GDP overall? meaning if we stopped all trade with them instantly down to 0, that it'd hurt their gdp growth about 3%? this isn't as in "they will go from 5% growth to 2%", it's "they will go from 5% to 4.85%."

like 15-20 years ago yeah US/china trade mattered a ton. not so much anymore. this is why they're like "lol whatever we'll do 84% tariffs then on your shit" in response to 125% from us. the "they NEED us, they will DIE INSTANTLY if we drop them" narrative is absolutely fucking fake and/or about 20 years out of date fucking abject ignorance. by the way the US gets about 40% of its total trade from china. it literally hurts us a lot more than them.

also make no mistake I'm no china fanboy, they're gonna eat shit and stall out within a decade or two (at the very least Japan-ize in population, at worst go through a catastrophic financial crisis and flatline in GDP). it's just not gonna be because the US rugpulled trade. that could do a little bit of damage and they're in a sensitive state with their real estate market but it's not gonna stop them. sorry to break it to you/him.

Yeah sorry but that's bullshit, America still has several companies producing up to date machining tools.

blah blah blah you're delusional

You're jewish, shut the fuck up.

Funny how he ends it with Tick Tock, given that TikTok is another thing made in China that America's losing badly to.
Bill Ackman is a retarded jewish dipshit who doesn't get shit right.
He can go fuck himself.

Nice argument, retard.

Nice analogy, you just forgot to point out that the US looks like Japan and not China. The US is trying to monopolize all trade, their government is going bankrupt, and they're passing random tariff policies every week.

No nigger I’m an actual fucking machinist that knows about the shit a country needs to make to even be able to claim it can make all of its own shit. You think cars and microchips are just slapped together with hand tools like you’re throwing up a stick frame house? It’s all made with expensive precision industrial equipment that ALL comes from Switzerland, South Korea, germany, japan, etc. Even fucking Italy and Spain BTFO of the US in CNC machine tool production. The only machining center manufacturer left in the US is HAAS and it’s mostly made in China anyways, and it’s TRASH. This isn’t even getting into more heavy duty niche industrial equipment or QC stuff which is even more dominated by Europe and Japan. American manufacturing is closer to China than it is to Germany or Japan, go to a Chinese manufacturer and the Japanese and German shit they use is literally the same stuff you’ll see being used over here. You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about

No we don’t lmao the machine tools we make are bargain bin bullshit or niche manual shit. We make nothing on par with what Germany and Japan and Switzerland can make, it’s not even close which is why literally every shop here is like 90% Japanese machines

chinese is 100% dependent on having money to throw around to be relevant on the global stage. their military is better (again because of money) but laughably unproven and they know it and are very, very hesitant to risk showing that for half a dozen reasons. removing the US market from china would be like sinking half the USN warships.

HAAS does fucking suck.

t. QC bubba

I’m an actual fucking machinist

You're a fat stupid boomer basing your worldview on anecdotes and bar talk, hastily ignoring the fact that America has one of the biggest manufacturing industries in the world.

America is going to lose more and more manufacturing the longer these tariffs stay up. Your anecdotes and the beer talk you had at the bar are irrelevant. Less places to sell = less production = less jobs = less innovation.

expensive precision industrial equipment that ALL comes from Switzerland, South Korea, germany, japan, etc. Even fucking Italy and Spain

Hmm... I wonder what's the tariff policy in those countries. Must be pretty high seeing they're such great manufacturers and that's totally how you become a manufacturer.

chinks losing

kikes losing

the madman is doing it

Have you even stepped foot in any kind of manufacturing facility in your life?

you don't know what you're talking about. the model T didn't need fancy machining nonsense and state of the art door vending machines. just plain old hammers and american enginuity

Pretty sure every factory I've worked in buys Chinese. There might have been one that bought Euro or Jap, but I doubt it.

You still have the skilled tradesmen

Are you retarded? Most CNC machines are obsolete in just a few years. Bringing back boomers who used to do things with hand tools won't accomplish shit.
Plus the wages have to drop to levels competitive with the third world for any of this to matter.
America is going down the shitter fast. This will only speed it up.
ACCELERATE.

I don't need to apparently, I already know it better than you, which only makes it more humiliating for you. You have actual lived experience and you probably talked about it more than me and yet you're wrong. US was one of the top manufacturers with a sub 2% tariff. Japan was a top manufacturer with a sub 2% tariff. Your German machines are sold at a sub 2% tariff. China grew their manufacturing industry a bit after they lowered their tariffs from 8% to 6.5%.

And now the US will have 10%-15% Congolese style tariffs.

Pretty sure every factory I've worked in buys Chinese. There might have been one that bought Euro or Jap, but I doubt it.

zeiss is still mostly legit, only because of.....you guessed it protectionist policies by the country who makes it. but, i think they even use some chink parts now.

Euro and Japanese shit is used to make everything that needs to be made good; like airplanes, military shit, engine parts, medical equipment, tool and die stuff, etc.

I don't know about that, we've used Chink shit to manufacture Class 3 PCBs for DoD use.
I hate that I had a hand in manufacturing anything Class 3 for the military at all, but so far it was just a couple of orders. We'll see how things go in future.

actually it's ok to have less purchasing power and higher costs

based maga communism!

there has to be a balance. because becoming china or russia is NOT the fucking goal. if it is, people are eventually going to come to your house at 2am and it wont be to "chat".

I know Chinese equipment is becoming more common throughout manufacturing but aerospace is definitely still dominated by Japanese machine tools. I’d bet money that those Chinese machine tools are made in a facility that uses Japanese machine tools

I’d bet money that those Chinese machine tools are made in a facility that uses Japanese machine tools

I dunno, but all our shit is old as hell, barely works, and is run by felons, niggers, beaners, druggies, and trannies.
The situation is probably far bleaker at certain points in the supply chain than you imagine.
Also, nobody knows wtf they're doing because like every other company in Jewmerica, we don't train. Not for anything. Not even a little.

8% of exports are 37% of gdp

Kek, retarded mutt can't into math

because becoming china or russia is NOT the fucking goal

that isn't happening you illiterate moron, and if it does it will be due to government enlargement and inflationary policies.

nope. companies just poach ever aging machinists from other companies and hope that 18 year old from trade school that they pay 15/hr to "works out". and if he does by some miracle, work out, he 8s out the door the moment someone calls him with a 5/hr raise.

well, we must live in completely different worlds, because i have watched exactly THAT happen for 20 fucking years.

37% of their gdp is trade. of that 37%, 8% goes to the US. this is 2.96%. so explain it to me precisely why that doesn't mean "if the US stopped all trade with them instantly they'd lose about 3% gdp."

Trust me I know I’ve worked in shops where literally everyone there but me was a felon on work release or a southeast Asian that can’t speak English

t-shirts are already not made in china and blormpf already suspended the tariffs on everyone else so his rich friends could get a nice market windfall today

everyone with political connections does this, not just "orange man".

The thing about China is that unlike Japan they can just steamroll into the Middle East and Asia with their massive industrial base and population if they ever feel like they’re about to go broke. They’ll just do what Germany and Japan did in ww2 but with the numbers and economy to actually achieve their military goals

"We are doing China a favor by letting them make our stuff for us"

What even happens in China? Just sweatshops, child labor and the occasional smart Chinese person who invents a rocket ship that doesn't even work?

Not to this degree. Congress is super corrupt and trades on insider info but they can't row the market like he can one day to the next

The mistake is to think Mr. China goes to see Mr. America to sell him something.

In reality, it's tens of thousands of companies selling various products.
The company making TVs might find it easy to pivot to other markets. The company building XXXXXL office chairs or dragon dildos might find it more difficult to pivot away from the US market.

Over time, though, they will have to adapt, change their products, retool, etc.

The fundamentals that make China competitive (energy price, workforce, etc.) are unchanged.

trump needs to impose a trade embargo on china not tariffs.

Feel like this big pop today is an opportunity to get short, what you gents think? US - China trade war means inflation and disruption here in the short to medium term, any way you slice it.

Its time to source it in my shithole country. We speak english, typically not scammers, and youll get good quality shit.

walmart is predatory and aggressively ruins small-large owned local family businesses.

Fuck China.

the great replacement was china all along.

KINO

I hate Walmart and don't shop there,but predatory? That's the word you chose?

Yeah that is the word I chose. Cause that's how they operate.

no there is we have India and SEA to fill the hole left by china and they wont complain about a tariff as well as Taiwan (for as long as it remains untouched)
America will never put all their eggs in one basket evert again, it'll be awhile but we too will subsidize and industrialize once more. I would even say that Trump should encourage industry from smaller folks to replace industry we lost to China years ago no matter how small.

Posted it again award

If China completely stop (complete stop, not redirect trade via Vietnam) their export to US they will lose 1.5% of their GDP, it's literally nothing. Chinese strange is rich local population, in past 30 years their middle class grew huge.

In the process of finding alternative suppliers

They didn't in 2017 lol