It's the age of science now, religion has been thoroughly debunked.
Why are there people still believing in religion?
Only a perfect God would allow this to exist.
need more be said.
Basically, Gödel’s First Incompleteness Theorem. Because this exists there will always be entire realms of truth that science is incapable of proving. Religion and its ultimate development and refinement is inevitable. Furthermore it will provide answers that science cant.
male of a species feels sexual attraction to female of species
must be god
i fucking swear you guys are simply stuck on a lesser developmental level
Why are you people so quiet during the economic meltdown? It will come again. Alright.
The merchants of the earth cry and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargo anymore.
You are the low IQ one here.
He doesn't believe in S0L even though he greets him every day
NGMI
No, you will not have a good retirement. Your faith in money will prove to be nothing but worthless.
If you believe in science and physics then you must believe in the concept of an initiating force which causes a reaction, for an action doesn’t occur spontaneously in nature.
Given this, how could the big bang occur without an initiating force, given that prior to it there was supposedly nothing? Personally I think God was the initiating force in this case and that evolution was a product of grand design, people that take genesis literally are misguided as much of it was written contextually as poetry, which amongst Hebrews had high degrees of allegory tied in
posts a midwit anti-christian kike felled by cancer
Very good Takeda
What is science view about heaven,?
science doesnt answer 'why?'
oh wao a "no u" counterargument
He lied and was anally debunked about Mother Teresa. Not a trustworthy person.
Religion has not been thoroughly debunked. Religion very much exists in the form of Shinto, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam etc.
The theory that there is no god, or intelligent creator is proven WITHIN the confines of what we, the imperfect human unserstands and created; sciences. Surely within the parameters we have put up, its nearly foolish to believe in a god. What if what we understand within these parameters weve created are not the true extent of things. We only can understand and create things that the human IQ and conciousness can see, hear, smell and measure then write it into theory. There can be a whole wide array of theories that will never be discovered or ezplored because we just aren't art enough to figure it out.
If life has no true meaning, if we are here merely by coincidence and mistake....whats the point? Every animal and all flora and fauna have a purpose. Is our purpose to create things that destroy the earth and enslave and kill each other and all forms of beast? Is that are true purpose?
Dont be so sure there "euphoric bro".
christcucks and other abrahamic cattle completely btfo.
he's never considered the lilies or beheld how they grow
Oof.
Retards breed retards
It's a simple concept
If atheism true why atheist fat and ugly degens?
bitch plenty of ugly to go around in church so dont go there
religion has been thoroughly debunked
You can't really be that retarded, right?
What other than a perfect God would allow pleasure and love to exist in a world as hostile and barren as ours?
in all the universe in all the empty that exists, here you are.
Science is literally incapable of proving or disproving all the assertions of religion.
things dont need a reason to exist, they just do, doofus
Because God exists. However not wisdom but faith makes your love more valuable.
Religion has not been thoroughly debunked.
Hubris
The theory that there is no god, or intelligent creator is proven WITHIN the confines of what we, the imperfect human unserstands and created; sciences.
as above so below
A God wilt thou create for thyself out of thy seven devils!
Surely within the parameters we have put up, its nearly foolish to believe in a god.
the wise mine knows he is a fool.
What if what we understand within these parameters weve created are not the true extent of things.
We only can understand and create things that the human IQ and conciousness can see, hear, smell and measure then write it into theory.
your mind may be a brain in a jar. Who knows!
There can be a whole wide array of theories that will never be discovered or ezplored because we just aren't art enough to figure it out.
you should read up on some of them.
If life has no true meaning, if we are here merely by coincidence and mistake
low level nihilism
Every animal and all flora and fauna have a purpose.
even you!
Is our purpose to create things that destroy the earth and enslave and kill each other and all forms of beast?
its also not on science to do it anyway
it is up to the believers to convince me god is real, etc.
and your feels is not an argument i find compelling
science improves my life, gods existence or non-existence is irrelevant
You are too caught up on the semantics of it all just like any other dumbass with their magic book.
God isn't omnipotent, he is simply more powerful than us and seems omnipotent by our standards.
God is a hierarchy between man and heaven.
Who is the one who rules over the Emperor? God, the Emperor answers to God. Understand? They are different schemas of power, different degrees of authority over the universe and reality itself, the Emperor has authority over men and God over nature. Nature as in the original latin word Natura, that meaning the order of things allowing life to continue so therefore Men with Woman, etc. This is why homosexuality was called Anti-Natura, because it is sterile, it produces no continuation of itself, it is the end of the species.
Anyways, God is as real as anything else in this realm, the heavenly light that manifested us out of the dirt is just as magical as anything you can dream up in your head. What other explanation can there be other than magic for DEAD mud and rock to suddenly become very much alive living Flesh and Blood?
I have to leave but you should read some theology, read Joseph Campbell's The masks of god, i think you will find it enlightening.
things dont need a reason to exist
are you sure about that?
fuck you:
is christian god omnipotent according to bible
„ChatGPT“ says:
Yes, according to the Bible, the Christian God is described as omnipotent, meaning all-powerful. This idea is supported by multiple passages throughout both the Old and New Testaments. Here are a few key examples:
1. Genesis 18:14 (Old Testament)
"Is anything too hard for the Lord?"
This rhetorical question, asked by God regarding Sarah’s ability to have a child in old age, implies that nothing is beyond His power.
2. Jeremiah 32:17
"Ah, Lord God! It is you who have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched arm! Nothing is too hard for you."
A clear declaration of God's limitless power.
3. Matthew 19:26 (New Testament)
"With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Jesus says this when speaking about salvation, again emphasizing that God has no limits.
4. Revelation 19:6
"Hallelujah! For the Lord our God the Almighty reigns."
The title "Almighty" is repeatedly used for God, especially in Revelation.
you cant prove otherwise so I go with whatever seems smarter to me
it beats acknowledging the existence of objectively evil god as described in the bible
religion has been thoroughly debunked
Still waiting for cosmological argument to be debunked.
God isn't omnipotent, he is simply more powerful than us and seems omnipotent by our standards.
hubris
God is a hierarchy between man and heaven.
Understand?
more than you I wager.
They are different schemas of power,
someone reads theory, I don't disagree with you, I see you are very smart and you need to flex your very clever brain.
God is as real as anything else in this realm
We agree, Huzzah!
he heavenly light that manifested us out of the dirt is just as magical as anything you can dream up in your head.
We agree again, Double Huzzah!
What other explanation can there be other than magic for DEAD mud and rock to suddenly become very much alive living Flesh and Blood?
And we agree a third Time!
I have to leave
so soon, parting is such sweet sorrow.
read Joseph Campbell
for you anything.
i think you will find it enlightening.
I did.
Christians are a confused lot, and their magic book is a compilation of books written in several diferent languages and each author had VERY different views on what God even was.
If you can do some investigation on the ORIGINAL bible texts, the Bible you are reading suffers from mistranslation problem dating to back when the Bible was originally translated into Latin.
The original texts were written in Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew and another one i can't remember, ALL of them have been horribly translated into English
i dont fucking care about your personal head cannon
you cant prove otherwise so I go with whatever seems smarter to me
choice
it beats acknowledging the existence of objectively evil god as described in the bible
choice
Proof
prove the nonexistence of God.
prove the existence of?
It’s another faggot seething about religion on Anon Babble thread
You honestly should be tied to a pole outside until you succumb to starvation or eaten by ravenous dogs.
science and religion can't mix!
Tell that to the technospirtual shamans.
heir magic book is a compilation of books written in several diferent languages
so wise
The original texts were written in Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew and another one i can't remember, ALL of them have been horribly translated into English
we should throw the baby out with the bath water.
I accept your concession
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh
A good portion of the population are Hylic NPCs who worship and obey the demiurge
They're not real people. They just exist to trick real humans with souls into participating in this shitshow.
Religion is more about a social construct than an actual belief system. Similar to how we as a group can hold on to ideas that we know are actually wrong.
Science is just an incomplete explanation of reality. There is simply questions that science doesn't seek to answer nor can it, the existence of god being one of them. You can be satisfied with not knowing the answer to that question you just wont ever be certain as to whether it's true or not because you aren't going to be able to engage with that portion of reality so long as science is the only tool at your disposal.
These talking heads are controlled opposition designed to derail unified white interests.
we still truly don't know how X happened, therefore sky daddy is totally real
Ok smoothbrain
lol typical fag move
asks me to disprove something he cant prove himself
its my concession somehow
can you disprove that pigs are able to fly when no one is looking?
fucking retard
VERY different views on what God even was.
Absolute rubbish. You've clearly never read it.
okay and?
how is this relevant to god being real or not?
why should I assume that he is?
You are an atheist because you have never seen God. Simple as that.
Personally I think God was the initiating force
Well, not everyone has to imagine the same "initiating force." It could be what you call god, it could be something entirely different. I'm not satisfied with "we don't know" as an answer, but it's the best we have.
asks me to disprove something he cant prove himself
when you do it it's kino, when I do it it's cringe.
its my concession somehow
you have failed to win me to your side in this debate.
can you disprove that pigs are able to fly when no one is looking?
can you prove they don't?
Rhetorical, I know you don't have the skill or acumen to make the experiment.
fucking retard
mirror mirror on the wall, who is the biggest faggot of them all.
Yeah I used to be all fedora tipping n' shit but when I see the people who don't live their lives without God (since that's most people in the west), but live their lives in opposition to God, the more in opposition to him they live the more degenerated and freakish they are and I would think "I just can't be like these people, I want to not be like them at all".
These people now run society, look how shit it's getting.
yeah and?
And that make you lacking.
I read some book on the occult that was designed to be understood by laymen/ newcomers and it made so much sense to me. i cant remember the book it was like 10+ years ago. I dont really believe in anything anymore, but ill believe in whats convenient at the time.
I don't attest to have all the answers I just know that as a function of mathematical proof science is incapable of acquiring all the answers. No one is lining up to spoon feed you all the truth that can be found in reality, I'm just telling you that seeking that truth is going to involve going outside of science to find it.
religion has been debunked
Yeah no, and Chris was a marxist. Marxism HAS been debunked. lol
I agree.
It's just when people anthropomorphize it and think they can talk to it and it talks back to them I feel like the whole thing goes off the rails.
The Bible was written BY MEN, who looked around and had no other way by which to explain anything. So badly written poetry and allegory, all re-re-re-retranslated and re-re-re-re-re-re-transcribed, this version that language etc. It reads like the fucking mess it is.
But it fucking works for people somehow. And has for 2000yrs or whatever the fuck. Surely something has to be going on there.
i dont expect to win over a retard to which "i believe it so its real" is the first and final argument
i am only here to win over those around who still have salvageable intelligence and that goal is achieved every time you say something stupid (which is a most of the time)
according to a retard
But it fucking works for people somehow. And has for 2000yrs or whatever the fuck. Surely something has to be going on there.
Bloodletting also "worked" for thousands of years.
call me back when you a have a better tool than science
until then i dont need to assume or hear others preach to me that god is real
Religion is as old as man. Chrisitanity is a fairly new religion and it already lost most of it's popularity because it's shit. And everybody knows it's shit. Even the larpers of today who hold on to it.
i dont expect to win over a retard to which "i believe it so its real" is the first and final argument
why bother typing words.
i am only here to win over those around who still have salvageable intelligence and that goal is achieved every time you say something stupid (which is a most of the time)
enjoy your stay in the bowels of hell.
Chances are high we will speak again.
Do you believe in luck?
A scientist is trying to make sense of the world with a pencil or a computer.
But what are? were tiny things in a blue ball in a vast space...
Choosing to believe in god is an emotional decision, not a rational one. Facts don't matter to these people.
I know that God can calculated the future with exact precision while Humans cannot even comprehended luck.
you must believe in the concept of an initiating force which causes a reaction, for an action doesn’t occur spontaneously in nature.
if big bang was made by god
who was god made by
i can easily believe everything just is
i dont need to put god or anything else behind it
in fact i do believe the universe is a constant flux of energy and matter
it expands cools and morphs into matter
then it contracts again heats up and morphs into energy
until it explodes again
in a never ending cycle
at no point to do i need to inject existence of god into it for it to make sense to me
this is what i imagine with what crumbs of data current science provides
others imagine god being the ultimate answer based on fuck knows what
You seem to be missing the point. Science isn't a better tool for answering these types of questions, it simply isn't a tool for answering these questions. Attempting to use science to find the existence of god is like showing up to a race track in scuba equipment, it just doesn't serve any purpose for that endeavor. Science by in large is the quantitative measurement of reality, the existence of god is a qualitative assessment of reality. You aren't going to answer that question with a ruler. Exploration of your own mind is where most people start, and its an infinitely better tool for the purposes of answering that question.
You can’t become a god without knowing all gods are real*
no
..But science comes from religion. Science as you know it today started off as natural philosophy.
Explain Luck to me. While are you not the president?
A complete explanation of reality is going to explain us and our existence, we aren't purely quantitative beings, we make qualitative assessments of reality too, and there is a whole realm of truth that is associated with qualitative elements of reality that science cant answer.
Your belief in a false god
Will get you nothing
While I become a god
you seem to be missing a point that science works for making sense of the world much better than believing in god
i have a use for science
i have no use for belief in god, i rather not believe he is real as he is an objectively horrible evil being that likes to torture his creations as described by the bible
why are you you?
This is going to depend on your definition of science and whether or not you believe qualitative information serves a purpose in hard sciences. I don't disagree that you could utilize the definition you are referencing, I just think that most people these days dont really consider psychology or even sociology science. At least not in a quantitative sense.
My belief in God make me notice God.
hey check out this fat bitch, god definitely exists
Your god is a faggot
That wants you to kiss his ass
Mine wants to make me a god or a king
I am what I am because of God.
this is an unnecessarily obtuse "we cant explain it so it must be god" statement
to anyone else its simply we cant explain it so it shall remain unexplained until we can
Such a pity "science" has devolved into just another religion though.
God is good. God is supreme. God is great.
Your god is false and mine is true
He allows us to become god
While your fake god wants you to kiss his ass
Your god is fake
My god created your bitch god
Science is great for making sense of quantitative measurements and extrapolating from them. It just doesn't have much of anything to say about subjective experience or the nature of consciousness, despite that being the lens through which you view reality.
Maybe not. But the science we know today is not really science anymore. Just a godless religion disguised as science. That's why you get shit like ''men can get pregnant'' and ''you could be born in the wrong body'' and other incoherent madness.
My God is stronger than your god.
Is the one in the Bible
Because you have been conned
you are what you are because many many things happened and many many decisions and action were made by both you and your ancestors
none of this necessitates a god to be behind it for it to be possible
Conned by what? There is no greater being than God.
Not once did I insist that there must be a god. The only thing I've put forward is that you aren't going to find the answer to that question through quantitative measurement. True or not its not a question that exist within the realm of science, and therefore must be answered without it.
Yes there is you dumbass
Which is why you can’t become one
I can kill all my ancestor because I am greater than all of them. You keep sucking their dick all you want. Only God is supreme.
I'd rather worship God than be a God.
False. You are your ancestors and can never be greater than that from which you came. Only lesser. You're just a delusional dead end.
Please try to have a civil debate.
Things we know must not be true but for whatever reason have become unprovable by science. This is actually a pretty hilarious example of the shortcomings of quantitative measurement.
I am the chosen ONE of God. The one and only.
Which is why you can’t be one and will die as miserable slave
So worship me you faggot
I like ghost energy drinks
So bring that as a offering
nice things are nice
Religion has benefits that atheism/scientism cannot provide.
In all Heaven and Earth
In all that existed and will for all of Eternity
I, alone, am the chosen ONE of God.
I am the chosen ONE of God.
that seems like a silly claim to make.
Yet why has Satan promised me a kingdom and god like powers
This is libertarian brain, even if this was the case, people are not intelligent and rational actors.
AI am chosen by the powers that created your god and can control 2 stars
Can you control stars
I, alone, am the chosen ONE of God.
Well, it seems you've had enough of judaism
Well you know, there IS ONE alternative to it: nothing.
No, there is another.
Needing to know the why of everything to feel meaning in life is a character flaw.
monotheistic dribble
Complete incoherent nonsense. Chirsitanity isn't even monotheistic. And Jesus was the one true god in that, not you.
It is my mantra. I belong only to God, and God is mine. We are eternal Lover.
yes well done materialists well done however
even by your own science there is no explanation why life exists because physically it should be impossible
plants grow animals walk the earth humans build civilizations
consciousness or life - inconceivable under the laws of materialism
ugly
Or the gods are women. Bet that never crossed your mind, did it?
It is my mantra. I belong only to God, and God is mine. We are eternal Lover.
you are blessed friend.
I sit in my cubicle, here on the motherworld. When I die, they will put my body in a box and dispose of it in the cold ground. And in all the million ages to come, I will never breathe, or laugh, or twitch again. So won't you run and play with me here among the teeming mass of humanity? The universe has spared us this moment.
I am the supreme ruler of all realities.
You're a funny guy, now stop replying you bother me.
gods are women.
never crossed your mind
you think that little of me?
Pleasure and love are evolutionary mechanisms to make you breed, take care of your offspring, family and close ones for the purpose of your genes and those of the species being passed on.
nooo! existence is so imperfect and horrible! waaaa!
No it isn't, you're just a pussy.
You are forced to give me a reply. Because you are a slave to my words.
Hermeticism is jewish.
physically it should be impossible
bullshit, everything else discarded cause of bullshit premise
Science goes hand and hand with religion. Science is just observation of the physical world. Religion is the observation of the meta physical world. It was retards that put poison into science that made you think we are billions of years old.
take care of your offspring, family and close ones
great evils
No it isn't, you're just a pussy.
if you say so it must be true.
you think that little of me?
Yes. lol
Can god create a mountain too heavy for him to lift?
Science goes hand and hand with religion. Science is just observation of the physical world. Religion is the observation of the meta physical world.
Basically this.
Yes. lol
well, I can't change that.
Prove the nonexistence of invisible incorporeal unicorns. Niggerfaggots like you are genetic waste no matter what opinions you hold.
Let it be clear
I don’t wish the followers of the false god be all killed
Yeah that is extreme and unnecessary
Rather the who institution be destroyed and only the high ranking members who know the truth be killed
rude
Religion is the observation of the meta physical world
No evidence on this part.
J-j-just have faith
lol
I belong only to God. The one that guided me around since the moment of my birth.
no evidence
Yes there is. We have history, and science started off as natural philosophy through metaphysics. It comes from polytheistic Europe.
So why doesn't he show himself? If he's so big and tough, why won't he fight me?
You are being played
You are not worthy.
You don't even have to label it religion if thats what's pissing you off. These are two sides of the same coin that we call reality. I doubt you reject the existence of your own consciousness or the dreams you experience. Those things are as much a part of reality as the last shit you flushed down the toilet. He's just stating that science fundamentally doesn't really have anything to say about the meta-physical nature of reality. Even if everything we knew about the world were wiped out, science, religion and all the connected material, if we started from scratch there would still be a delineation between the tools used to describe the physical world and our meta-physical experience of consciousness and anything else that lies beyond the material world.
yes it shouldnt work according physical laws
only explanation is humans have souls ergo there is god
This world is a game between Me and God.
it's DEBOONKED
No, all you did was introduce doubt and embrace it. And what is the outcome of believing in doubt? Vasectomies and cuck chairs, in other words atheist thinking leads to extinction.
You're identifying the problem but not the cause. They are in opposition to "God" as you say, but only insomuch as "God" is and has been the prevailing mainstream culture for more than a thousand years. We're partially in this fuck because all of our society's values were bound to religion, and when it ceased to convince, people also abandoned the values that held together a functioning society. A vast majority of westerners are not religious. They may belong to a church and pay lip service, but most of them believe in nothing, they're completely secularized. As such, they also do not believe truly in the values that religion has held for so long.
insignificance is hard to handle
Believe what ever you want
I don’t to kill you just your religion
The problem is the idea of scientists and their lackeys telling the truth has been debunked so now we can't trust them.
Human beings evolved a religious sense. This is an unfortunate reality of things. The religious sense is very useful in organizing groups and sustaining a birthrate. It solves a lot of the Game-Theory calculation problems.
Like, why would someone sacrifice their own time and pleasure to raise the next generation? Religion solves that problem. Enforcing morals on society as well.
It's not really a matter of "whether people are religious", because everyone is. It's more of a question of, "what religion do we want our people believing?"
The church will never die. You will.
i believe water is real cause it quenches my thirst
i believe gravity is real because apples fall to the ground
i believe love is real because i can see people sacrifice themselves for the undeserving
all these things have tangible effects on human existence
thus all these things exist within a realm of science
if something has an effect or is tangible to our senses then it exists within the realm of science even if science cannot explain it at the moment with the limited set of data we currently have
god has no effect on my life nor is he tangible to my senses so to me its a igment of imagination and will remain so until he or his effects can be observed in a manner that can be replicated at will
jewish child-fucker tastes
Mindbroken, fried brain. Sad!
you you samefagging?
this feels like a samefagging situation.
It's too hammy to be real.
doubling down on bullshit
you have no actual fucking understanding of physics to discern what is and what is not possible according to them
If science holds, i.e. we can make theories that predict the future, that proves a logical consistency to the universe. If the universe is logically consistent, then it is ontologically dependent on Logic, i.e. it cannot exist without Logic existing. This means Logic is not something that emerges from the universe, as that would imply a time where the universe existed, but Logic did not, which is impossible.
This means that Logic is more primary than the (physical) universe, that is to say, Logic must have existed "before" the (physical) universe could exist. Now, "before" is in quotes, because it denotes a temporal causal relationship, which of course does not apply, because the universe includes Time itself. But it is logically equivalent to a causal relationship. We can say that Logic "caused" the Universe.
However, what is Logic? The most common definitions all arrive at the same thing: Logic is the principles of True Reasoning. This implies an ontological dependence of Logic on the existence of Truth and Reason. And Reason implies a Mind capable of Reason. So there must be some Mind, which knows Truth, and Reasons Logic into existence. And this Mind is then responsible for the Creation of the Universe through this Reasoning.
This Mind would be Omniscient (knows Truth), Omnipresent (maintaining the logical consistency), Omnipotent (responsible for everything), the Creator and Conscious. Ergo, God.
(This fits perfectly with John 1 btw, with God as Logos)
So, Science is proof that God exists, and personally I think that the Christian view of God is the best fit for this God.
Why would i
I just give hints hopping someone gets it
That's not "science" though, by definition, as none of it stands up to any kind of scrutiny. It's troon ideology that "scientists" have to bow down to because of the reigning kike world order.
That is actually going to get fucked hard and wishing harm on someone this naive is wrong
I just give hints hopping someone gets it
what an incredible waste of time that accomplishes nothing of value
I commend you.
I hope you're at least making money from this somehow!
all that drivel you typed out is utter nonsense
logic is a way of thinking that humans developed to adapt to otherwise hostile environment
humans did it while existing within the ruleset of the established universe to figure out what the fuck the ruleset is
That is actually going to get fucked hard and wishing harm on someone this naive is wrong
land of the blind and the one eyed king
because religion offers a lot of benefits. No fear of death, meaning in life, community and more. What does atheism offer except some theoretical notion of being correct? I'm an atheist because I grew up outside religion beyond shallow traditions but unless you can actually offer people a better deal many people who have faith won't give it up.
It does to some. Personally though, I believe those benefits only come from fear of the unknown and lack of purpose. But it is undeniable some people, as they are, cannot function or act in moral ways without the anchor of religion.
It is just a way for me to vent out my frustration
My family and co workers are all christcucks
So I take it out on randoms online
Uhh, no.
It is just a way for me to vent out my frustration
My family and co workers are all christcucks
So I take it out on randoms online
These are not Randoms, they are real people. They leave Anon Babble and sometimes they hurt themselves or others.
I know you are very very clever and you have great power and you can do whatever you want. I know.
Is that what you want? Do you want to hurt people?
I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings, but it was my sincere belief at the time, and still is.
I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings, but it was my sincere belief at the time, and still is.
I accept you anon
we want people to not fall into christcuckery as that leads to a middling existence at best and inhibits any potential to improve own and surrounding life that the individuals might otherwise hold
kur Tave surast geriau pasakyk
we
who is we?
leads to a middling existence
arrogant
ko tau reik?
I am very aware of my evilness and hope
To be defeated by someone good before I reach godhood
But not before I get rid of the criminal scum that have done nothing but harm to my people.
you dont even understand who I mean when I say "we"?
Atheism is a religion which worships nothing.
I am very aware of my evilness and hope
To be defeated by someone good before I reach godhood
But not before I get rid of the criminal scum that have done nothing but harm to my people.
I like playing pretend too.
so the fucking same as yours?
I want you to define we and explain the context you are using it in.
I hope it brings you some kind of closure in this confused existence.
i also want things
kartais rišliais sakiniais pakalbÄ—t šitam debilų cirke
I'm a Deist. I don't have to worship anything but I'm aware that I'm ultimately part of something greater.
Can you control stars
I simply talk with no filter. Using you people as a stimulus.
I hope you have a very good day.
God be with you.
žinok nesidalinu tokiose vietose kontaktais ir kitiems nepatariu
Because of experiences I've had in my life which are impossible to walk away from, but I apply logic to everything I believe in, nor are my beliefs foundationally opposed to logic and reason.
Can you control stars
I wish.
I can barely control myself.
Imagine having superpowers.
At best I have a mild mental illness.
tas tai taip, reikia kažkokio būdo...
I can 2 of them
do you have to worship though? does it even want your worship?
at the minimum mental illnesses are typically comorbid.
I can't see why God would want worship. Maybe appreciation but worship is slave behavior.
Well they aren’t really stars
They are 2 ayy ships that follow me all night everywhere I go
Humans were made to worship God.
It depends honestly on which type of worship we're talking about. I mean you can worship your wife's pussy but if you let another man fuck her you're still a cuck.
They are 2 ayy ships that follow me all night everywhere I go
t.dungeons and dragons larper
so why do u say atheists worship absence?
atheists dont worship at all, they just think there are no deities beyond our existence
We will made the AI to worship ourself aa well.
reminder that this retard and dawkins were propped up by interest groups to strip the UK of its christian identity to push in muslim immigration.
they single-handedly preached their own demise.
prayer doesn't work. There are no miracles. No magic powers. None of that stuff is real. Religion was wrong
Low tier bait
Why are there people still believing in religion?
Because we are souls incarnated to this seemingly impossible existence
Explain that faggot
I simply talk with no filter. Using you people as a stimulus.
poor muffin got his feelings hurt.
this is really personal.
no we absolutely take the christcucks over mudslimes and (((them)))
we just need to get rid of them too at some point after we deal with more immediate threats to western civilization
What can you do to hurt me?
I've been beaten up, left for dead, insulted, hurt, laughed at suffered.
You think I care if you hate me?
I was already broken before i came here. and in my pain I lashed out.
You don't need to forgive me, I accept that you hate me.
I deserve your hatred.
Suffering is the proof of Love. The more I suffer for someone, the more I love them.
But it is undeniable some people, as they are, cannot function or act in moral ways without the anchor of religion.
Correct. As a result, religion/religiosity are a net benefit to society as a whole. Without it, these individuals would descend into degeneracy/crime/etc.
curious how atheism didn't debunk the nihilism and moral decay in atheist societies
Do you have someone who can suffer for you?
Because if you criticize the idea that we become nothing forever they get angry and try to invalidate you. A "soft atheist" is one thing. It's "hard atheists" that are deranged. Most atheists just listen to famous atheists and just agree with everything they say. It's a fact that our current intelligence and consciousness and that its unlikelihood is a bizarre coincidence that points to some divine inspiration. What are the odds you'd be alive with all the lifeless matter in the universe? Furthermore, humans are on the cusp of creating highly intelligent AI. We've never seen high intelligence appear in front of our eyes in nature.
Suffering is the proof of Love.
one day maybe we'll get to walk in the sunshine as equals.
I am sorry anon. I'm not a good person.
I never was.
name one thing that wasn't
I suffer.
I can suffer for God because I love God.
absolutely a thing to be worked on
religion is good to keep the lower iq retards in line
it just holds back anyone more capable just as much as it keeps the retards in check
You are not high IQ tho.
Everything beyond what meets the eye would definitionally be considered supernatural before we discovered it.
I am weak. I make no reservations about that. My only talent is words and stories.
It took a long time to master. I abused my skills.
I was warned. I ignored the warning.
well explain what is consciousness or life?
all I hear is
no u
like a bitch
the odds are exactly 50/50
I agree complexity of things is awe inspiring
just to me not THAT awe inspiring to also inspire belief in deities beyond the veil to serve as an explanation for the complexity
I was warned more than once.
No man has ever gotten more 2nd chances than me.
Science has no answers to the important questions. Only religion does. Science takes all meaning out of life, religion gives life meaning. Science destroys, religion builds. Don't listen to the scientists. They hate everything good and beautiful in this world.
empty statement not collaborated by evidence just the same as your statements about god being real
RELIGION IS AN INSULT TO GOD
it's time, soon, for my luck to run out.
and that's fine, I knew it would happen.
How the fuck is it 50/50 when the vast majority of matter is lifeless? What the fuck are you talking about?
This is your Hell, and I will keep enjoying it.
it will never be worked on, thats the point of atheism. it's an unfixable spiritual void
religion is good to keep the lower iq retards in line
this is not an IQ thing. smart people are just as easily victim to immoral vices than stupid people, in some cases more so
Glitched moon
litter.catbox.moe
yeah dumb humans or humans with incomplete knowledge was to plug the holes in said knowledge with god
but the more intelligent of us did discover shit and put it work for us
imagine if they just sat there and thought "shit happens because god made it so"
we would be holding this fucking conversation over the internet for sure
You know the creator
Is a separate being from the god of the Bible
Atheism is a Communist Jew cult made by Jews and largely occupied by bitter former Christians. When Southern Baptists become Atheists they become the most militant ignorant retard atheists carrying over their fundamentalist ignorance.
the ratio of living and lifeless matter is in no way relevant to there being or not being a divine creator
i dont believe you are enjoying shit
Most of the great thinkers who brought us into the enlightenment were Deists who literally thought you could come closer to God by learning about the natural world.
Conclusory statement. Not an argument.
Universe exists because god
universe exists because randomness
Meh, I'm just going to go with God did it. Jews seem to really hate God so it's probably a safer bet than muh singularity or whatever jewish garbage they're saying now.
no it absolutely is about the iq
it is in the interested of inhabitants of community to not shit it up
many fucking dumb as rocks people dont get it so they shit it up and on the other end of the spectrum are the actual psychopaths that understand it all but just dont care and do it cause their goals are different
The bible was written by jews, and 90% of the book is a discussion of jewish mythical history. Jesus is addressed as "rabbi" in the book. He even calls gentiles dogs.
I believe God keep sending you people here for my enjoyment.
gotta start somewhere, doesnt mean we shouldnt discard what is no longer relevant
Christian God is the only possible God
he looks like he about to cry
and you think i come here to get sad or change your retarded mind?
You were sent here so that I won't get bored.
I have seen ghost. Ayy , demon possession, and a glowing red eyed demon
Also check out this fake moon
Stop acting like Atheism is a proven position you faggot. That's what atheist niggers always did. What are the odds you'd be alive? Answer the question, faggot. How the fuck do you come to 50/50? Every statement you've made has been conclusory with zero actual argument.
It's the age of science now, religion has been thoroughly debunked.
Nonsense. Scientism (not science) is the new religion.
Dawkins and Hitchens are the priestesses of the new religion.
Atheism in the face and evolutionism in the foundation, and scientism (aka pseudo science) is the doctrine.
It requies belief; faith, like any good religion.
It ignores science, which destroys evolutionism and atheism.
Itis promoted by midwits, that is, people slightly above average but not actually greatly intelligent, people who think they are smart, but cannot actually get into anything deep and meaningful.
Superficial "geniuses".
Notice also the anger, the hatred of God.
They hate something that they insist does not exist, it is pure schizophrenia.
In any case, atheists have far more mental disorders; depression, and suicide, so they remove themselves from the gene pool. Natural Selection at work.
retards is what keeps anyone more capable in line, religion always exercised control through them, it's all one thing
Explain how you came to the conclusion that your odds of existence were 50/50 when 99.999999999%+ of matter is lifeless.
I love the opportunity to fight for God.
there's nothing to debunk, it's complete drivel
Explain how you came to the conclusion that your odds of existence were 50/50 when 99.999999999%+ of matter is lifeless.
I'm waiting.
while existing within the ruleset of the established universe
retard, that is Logic
I love the opportunity to fight for God.
anon, I get the feeling that you're not telling the truth.
90% of the religious people on here just trolling to piss you off
either some shit gets to be alive or it doesnt
50/50
what ratio of live matter to dead matter would you be comfortable with for you to discard the need to divine creation?
why that number and not 1 in 9999999999?
some fucking numbers are large, some fucking numbers are small
why does any of this necessitate divine creation?
you guys are the modern version of cavemen assigning divine meaning to the stars in the sky
sure thing
if you are trying to say something to me at least make it comprehensible
What's the truth? I get pissed when people talk shit to God. This is the proof that I love God.
I get pissed when people talk shit to God. This is the proof that I love God.
What is God to you?
evolution happened bro
Lol. Look at your fucking idol, atheist... is this what you want to mirror?
Men in their arrogance claim to understand the nature of creation, and devise elaborate theories to describe its behavior. But always they discover in the end that God was quite a bit more clever than they thought.
either some shit gets to be alive or it doesnt
dude this is the most retarded shit I've ever heard. you larped as le scientific genius
that's like saying the odds of rolling a die and getting a 1 are 50/50 you dumb fucking nigger
Holy shit. everyone look at this so-called "science believing atheist's" absolutely shittarded post
My Master, my Creator, and my Lover.
Excellent
Science is proof that God exists, and personally I think that the Christian view of God is the best fit for this God.
Yes, and keep those two points separate.
The existence of God or not is a matter of knowledge; science; logic, not a matter of religion.
The purpose of any good religion, is to connect us with God, and each religion has a different name for God; different doctrines; etc. It is not the purpose of religion to prove the existence of God.
Atheists; midwits; superficial thinkers, love to confuse the two issues.
you assuming random rocks get to roll the dice is the retarded thing to do
I'm an athiest? Fancy that.
My Master, my Creator, and my Lover.
Lucky you.
just stop having traditions and culture and shit
science says life is meaningless anyway
The purpose of any good religion, is to connect us with God
It is not the purpose of religion to prove the existence of God
consider me not connected - your religion failed its purpose
We have evidence it's a tiny tiny fraction but you default to 50/50 with no evidence. Give me some support for that claim.
either some shit [matter] gets to be alive or it doesnt
50/50
You are missing the point.
Aliveness cannot spring from deadness. Life does not, cannot, spring from dead matter. The ratio is zero, zero.
Life can only spring from life.
who said that?
Bro it literally happened. We evolved.
it is 50/50 for each idividual puddle of correct elements that gets to roll
very little such puddles forming in the universe is a different and easily explainable issue
Bro it literally happened. We evolved.
The righteous need not cower before the drumbeat of human progress. Though the song of yesterday fades into the challenge of tomorrow, God still watches and judges us. Evil lurks in the datalinks as it lurked in the streets of yesteryear. But it was never the streets that were evil.
Why do you think evolution disproves God?
disagree, i think it can same as you think god can do the same
You don't just get to claim that. That's not holding up in a court of law.
evolution happened bro
Do you have any evidence for that proposal ?
Not theories and mystical magical imaginations, but actual scientific evidence ?
The Darwinist have been trying to find some for 120 years, and have failed completely. They say we must believe their mysteries.
Speaking of "human progress", do you actually think we're going to reach a space age civilization with Mars bases and moon trips and shit, while still believing in this crap?
Nigger we see evolution happen. Look at coalburners and their mutt babies.
Have you seen modern west?
Why would it stop them? Neil Armstrong is a Deist.
do you actually think we're going to reach a space age civilization with Mars bases and moon trips and shit
you silly goose, only crazy lunatics believe in things like that.
Technology and progress has stopped right here at this moment and nothing will ever change again.
just leave it alone if this all you got
have you seen modern middle east?
religion is not what makes or breaks us.
consider me not connected
You can't get connected to something that you believe does NOT exist
your religion failed its purpose
My religion did not try to connect the unconnected to what they do not logically accept. It did not fail, it did not even try.
You keep making a claim with no evidence you dumb nigger. The odds your matter and energy would be inside your body are 1/999999999999999999999999999 or less.
Ok man, you posted the lagrange points. Good job. You really showed something
you didnt need to answer that, i knew you are fucking stupid already
It's not just that Christianity is not believable. It's that the evidence points strongly to it being retarded sandnigger fairytales. Also you're antiwhite for believing in a sandnigger religion.
and you posted??????????????
I actually agree, the middle east is a great example of what a modern country would look like if it never went through a scientific revolution
countries are divided up by sects of the same religion, so instead of protestants and catholics you have shias and sunnis
constant cold conflicts with each other because of petty differences in belief that eventually erupt into conflicts where millions die
religious police sticking their noses in everyone's business
suppression of expression, art, belief
actual monarchies which hold that they have the divine right to be king because they are the owners of the grand mosque in Mecca or a descendant of Muhammad, similar to how European kings all claim to be descended from the Israelite priestly class
Everything has an inteligent design.
Atheists look at the world and believe it all came up randomly and to chance. They believe everything is randomand it is because it is. What came before BBT? "Nothing, it's all just galactic soup lmao".
Christians look at the world and believe it all has intelligent design, a maker, logic that comes from logos. They believe everything was planned and designed, that we as image of God can think and create is one of the evidence of that.
They believe God started BBT, as the intelect that created everything and started the push that is moving to this day. The intelect that exists beyond time and creation.
I don't know what you believe in, OP. But i think atheists are the most fucking brain-dead people in existence because they're against the fact that everything in our universe, and in it's creation is very smart in it's design. Thinking that intelligent design of DNA, Cells, Gravity, Physics, Elements and their compatibility to create something new, is all fucking random and came into being by chance. Is so fucking retarded and childish that i can't even put it in words.
Even Ancient Pagans of Ancient Greece knew you couldn't argue against Logos, but modern atheists are so up their ass with pride that they throw out the idea all together, just to mock Holy Bible for it's scientific inconsistencies, forgetting that Bible isn't a science book, but religious and philosophical book.
Hitchens was a debater, he didn't give a shit about facts or science outside superficial ones. He even said that he didn't want religious people to disappear because who would he argue against then?
even if we look at it from your perspective it doesnt mean a god must be necessary to make it so
it's not just about psychopaths, plenty of non psychopathic smart people that fall victim to immoral vices
like I said, it's not an IQ thing it's a moral thing
you can understand the world as much as you wont, it wont cause you to actually act in a moral way
for that you need a set of rules that you can't simply logic your way out of
I'm not even religious though, but I do think it solves a spiritual problem that atheism isn't even capable of addressing
there's not much point debating religion though, people are even less likely to change their minds than politics and you get morons like that ruin any chance of a good discussion
It is not open for you to agree or disagree. No one cares what you or anyone else thinks. What matters is scientific fact, and logic.
You reject logic, therefore you do not live and think in the real world; objective reality, instead, you live and think in a world of magical mystical imaginings, personal fantasy.
Christians look at the world and believe it all has intelligent design, a maker, logic that comes from logos.
christians don't think anything. Most of their time is spent running a hamster wheel in their brain to think of any possible argument to defend the stupid stuff they were indoctrinated with as a kid.
Even Ancient Pagans of Ancient Greece knew you couldn't argue against Logos
The pagans of ancient greece at least understood the world was round, the bible describes a flat earth standing on pillars.
Miscegenation is not evolution.
No but it makes our existence with no God or supernatural incredibly unlikely.
You fail logic, you post dumb nonsense, but somehow it is me that is "stupid"
Ok.
you posted
prayer doesn't work.
skill issue
There are no miracles. No magic powers.
if you say so, you're the expert.
None of that stuff is real. Religion was wrong
big man on campus.
The bible was written by jews
you penis was clipped by jews.
90% of the book is a discussion of jewish mythical history
so?
Jesus is addressed as "rabbi" in the book. He even calls gentiles dogs.
oh no the horror, racism. can you imagine someone being racist?
evolution happened bro
this guy thinks he made a statement.
Bro it literally happened. We evolved.
he thinks repetition alone is an argument
christians don't think anything.
he thinks he is people
Most of their time is spent running a hamster wheel in their brain to think of any possible argument to defend the stupid stuff they were indoctrinated with as a kid.
he thinks he has thoughts
The pagans of ancient greece at least understood the world was round
many people figured that out, even Christians!
the bible describes a flat earth standing on pillars.
the bible also has talking snakes.
The fool thinks himself the King.
Science is gay
Straw Man
First you re-frame what Christianity is into what it is not.
Second you burn what it is not.
Congratulations, you burned your own filthy creation.
Christianity remains, untouched by your filth.
we will not find common ground on this
i will maintain the for people that are stuck on low levels of consciousness (loot it the fuck up) religions threat of infinite violence in the afterlife is what makes them act according to the moral standards of the group
they dont fucking want to, they dont understand why the fucking should, its just the threat of mystical violence that keeps them in line
people who are smarter than that understand why religion has these rules baked into it and will follow them even if religion is thrown out cause they know these rules serve the group and them individually
psychos are just twisted beyond the social, they dont seek coexistence with the group, are incapable of empathy and only seek their personal goals and are willing to do literally whatever to reach them
there can be outliers, sure, but i am speaking about the general
When I was a kid. I had a dream that I was a lion that get throw into the jungle by a lion mommy.
When I was a child I had a dream that I was swallowed by a great blue whale and I fell into a pit of darkness forever.
incredibly unlikely
50/50
its a dice roll, either there is a deity or there isnt
then there is another dice roll for the amount of deities if the first roll lands in deist land
the chance of some matter becoming alive doesnt need to be directly proportional to chance of god existing
its just something you decided for yourself cause you were in awe
what you believe does not equal fact to me
Atheists don't think anything. Most of their time is preoccupied with carnal pleasure and seeking more and more dopamine feed until they degenerate into man/idol worship that makes them think they can change gender and transform society into a cesspool of same ilk.Bible never describes flat earth or standing on pillars, you got that from jeets.
Ancient pagans were intelligent enough to not argue against concept of Logos and never denied God existing. That's how greeks converted to christianity so easily, it explained their philosophy very well.
But seeing how you didn't address anything except throw couple of adhoms, proves my point that you're brain-less retard. You have my sympathy, muttbro.
cope
you just want to paint atheists as bad people instead of addressing their core belief which is "there is no god"