Why do Conservatives vote against their own economic interests?

The government does not owe you free healthcare.
The whole system is collapsing, and that is by design. Blame the people who set it up, not the people who are cutting it.
Who in their right mind thought free top of the line healthcare for poor people was sustainable?
It's over time to move on.

(Just the White people)

Israel gets free healthcare and this cuckold votes yes for it.

America's broke and destitute. Can't wage wars. Can't print more debt. Can't acquire more oil and resources to wage more wars and create more debt.

Remember the American empire died in Afghanistan.

Who in their right mind thought free top of the line healthcare for poor people was sustainable?

Medicaid pays for bare minimum shit, ok then cut medicare and Israel and euro shit we fund. You will bitch and mon when your nana can't afford her meds anymore.

The american empire died in vietnam.

We aren't suppose to give a shit about those things anymore.

Money is fake and gay, source, we made it up.

Exactly right, fellow pede. Cut Medicare and massively raise the defense budget and cut taxes on the wealthiest Americans, this will definitely balance the budget like we said last time.

Not exactly. The pentagon created project new American century to acquire oil and resources in the middle east. Remember America overthrew Saddam and then planned to overthrow Assad. Now that's where the problems began as America violated the NAP against Russia. The current war is Ukraine and America is losing.

America is now waging a trade war with China like a toddler throwing a fit.

government does not owe you free healthcare.

Israel gets that from us though.

MAGA needs medicaid.
Young white males need help until the economy is fixed.

I hope people supporting this have a pulmonary embolism event when a blood clot breaks off from leg into lungs and they suffocate

Why do leftoids always try to kill the golden goose and end up with famines?

I'm aware of all that but our empire fell during Vietnam era because of the immigration act and the take over of our colleges by communists.

They’re not very smart, to put it nicely
They probably thought “oh this is 4d chess, republicans won’t actually take away our health insurance”
Then it happens, then they blame democrats, rinse and repeat

conservatives faces when millions of people go into medical debt and never pay it because they couldnt even if they wanted to

still never paid that 7000$ bill i got for an emergency room visit like 10 years ago lmao

Here’s Mike Johnson saying medical coverage is ONLY for single mothers with mulatto kids from Tyrone, NOT for white men who play video games
GOP a party of simp nerds

European nations all have healthcare with even less GDP than the US you dumb fuck. Maybe the system here is extremely broken when people have hundreds or BILLIONS of dollars more than they would ever need in 20 lifetimes, while other people can’t even afford a home.
You understand this is also because Republicans gave tax cuts to the ultra wealthy elites who hate you, and the mega-corporations who pushed woke crap on you.
They made these cuts while simultaneously cutting taxes on the wealthiest groups in America.
Republicans are genuinely bad people, they pretend to be Christian and shit too, even though Jesus and His disciples stressed the importance of helping the sick and poor.
America is a gross, golem nation where corrupt billionaires tell the peasants they must struggle hardships for no reason

We're broke.

All entitlements should be gone.

If people die in the streets, then so be it.

Vance 2028

I imagine it is all disheartening to someone who is economically illiterate. why don't you do some research. mises.org is a good place to start.

Also we give BILLIONS to Israel, where all their citizens have healthcare, yet we “can’t afford it” for Americans?
You don’t see how your nation hates you and mistreats you? None of this is America first.

Increase taxes, then.

Trickle down economics has NEVER worked lmao. You would expect people to learn that after the Reagan era, when none of that wealth ever “trickled down” and the gap between the ultra wealthy and the poor grew wider. The fact republicans are still pushing this antiquated shit as we see blatant corruption with Trump, Musk and their billionaire buddies is a joke.

Lol every republican is a faggot nepobaby who has never worked a day in their life sitting atop their throne telling the plebs they must suffer so that billionaires can accumulate even more money even though they already have enough money for 10,000 lifetimes. Go work manual labor goy and you better pray to jesus you don't break a bone!

There is nothing wrong with people dying in the streets. Other people don't owe them free healthcare.
If people don't like other people dying in the streets, then they should find real solutions - like making the entire healthcare industry free market based so there is healthcare abundance instead of healthcare scarcity, which is caused by regulatory capture.

Try not being a fat fuck

Can anybody explain how having more of my wealth stolen so that disgusting sub-humans can be kept on life support despite their best efforts to self terminate is in my best interest?

Thought this was a fake tweet until I looked it up, the absolute fucking state. This country cannot have another century left in it

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There is nothing wrong with people dying in the streets.

le invisible hand

Faggots like Mike Johnson would never cut welfare for black women lmao Cuts are only for white men because white men deserve nothing and that money belongs to Israel.

Trickle down economics

Everyone who thinks this is actually an economic term is pants-on-head retarded. There is supply-side and demand-side economic policy. Both are essential. Please, kys.

Trickle down economics has NEVER worked lmao.

That's just because the government hasn't stolen enough wealth from others to trickle some down to you yet, but this time they're really looking out for your best interests when they're robbing your fellow countrymen.

nearly 40 percent of his district

nearly 40 percent of his district didnt vote for him either

righto, we only riot in the streets if they cut funding to israel. amirite fellow (((white))) man?

Less than a majority of his district

So possibly people who didn't even vote for him. So literally nothing.

Bannon is such a cuck. he has been completely cut out of policymaking and has suffered 'fell for it again' award after award. First on the tariffs, then on immigration, and then again on immigration who basically achieved the sum total of fuck all he set out to do.

The guy is a loser

Thanks for admitting America is a soulless capitalist zone and golem husk that values foreign Jews and billionaires over their own people

Faggots like Mike Johnson would never cut welfare for black women lmao

Without sounding like a butt-blasted tranny can you explain how the state stealing less of my money is contrary to my best interests?

how is driving down wages and job opportunities with illegal immigration "in our best interest," "madam"

He thinks his taxes will go down and they won't use the money they saved to raise the military budget again

Gibs muh dat!

Or you could just get a fucking job and earn whatever it is you feel you deserve. Or better still just make a little effort to take care of yourself so that you don't require tens of thousands of dollars worth of modern medicine to survive whatever it is you're doing to your body.

Your taxes aren't going down dude, stop being delusional

Why not post a link to the budget bill that you want me to be outraged about so that we can discuss when my money is being squandered.

Post a link to the budget bill and we can discuss the numbers.

Americans should not be robbed to pay for the healthcare of other people.
A free market healthcare system is efficient and productive, which will create healthcare abundance, which will make make it much easier to help people who need help by way of voluntary charity.
It is much more logical to send poor people to hospitals in the global south to get treatment, for example. When there is a free market system in place, people come up with real and sustainable solutions.

I remember being a 14 year old idealist dork who simped for corrupt billionaires and believed in “muh free market” and trickle down economics , why haven’t you grown out of that yet?
>randomly starts talking about trannies
Underage faggot, you must be 18 to post here

Why do Conservatives vote against their own economic interests?

they vote against the economic interests of their base, but for the interests of the donor class, it is a plutocracy, of by and for the donor class, if you are not a huge political donor you are irrelevant to the American political system

Cohen

How many times do Republican administrations need to have you subsidize rich tax cuts before it clicks for you. Trump isn't cutting your taxes for the same reason he didn't in his first term

randomly

You are a tranny, it isn’t random.

Also we give BILLIONS to Israel, where all their citizens have healthcare, yet we “can’t afford it” for Americans?

You don’t see how your nation hates you and mistreats you? None of this is America first.

America is a client state owned by Israel, not vice versa, Epstein showed us how that works

This makes no sense to say such a thing. Medicad is not eligible for 29 year old unemployed males.

The government owes ISRAEL free money, not you, fucking loser

male democrats mistakenly think they'll benefit from welfare which is why they vote democrat

in actuality only women benefit from welfare. work requirements prevent men from benefiting from welfare

Hiw the fuck would a NEET be on Medicaid anyway?

40%

Nightmarish .

Lol why do you get blue in the face about preventing abortions then die on the hill of demanding that health care be unaffordable? Just step back, are you looking at the bigger picture?

i was on medicaid as a NEET under obamacare

i signed up for medicaid to avoid the fine

A lot of them are.

Those who are part of the privileged classes or ruling classes love to nag the lower classes how they aren't pulling their weight around enough. Ironically many working class people also shame each other for not working harder.

40 percent of his district are democrats

That was the beginning of the end. We are now at the end.

Not even close. You’re a dumb fuck who views everything through a partisan looking glass based on Anon Babble memes, though.

It's not everyone else's problem you don't have healthcare

True, but the people I’m arguing with, these republicans, are OK with that apparently.

he does it for free

The government will execute you

I want healthcare to be affordable.
Our system guarantees that healthcare remains unaffordable. Only an entirely free market healthcare system can produce affordable healthcare for the majority of Americans.

So post a link to the budget bill so that we can discuss the actual numbers here and where it is all going.
Did you read this budget that I'm meant to be outraged about? Post the link so we can discuss the numbers.
Cite the part of this new law that does any of what you claim.

free

It's not like his district is gonna vote democrat any time soon

How is cutting nigger gibs "against the economic interests" of the White party?

The people dying in the streets won't be the ones you think it's gonna be. The tree of liberty etc

Was National Socialism good for the people of Germany, yes or no?

Agreed.

Only investing can make you wealthy. You have to be proactive.
It's a talking point to explain that tax cuts don't help the working class.

Medicaid is for blacks, not seniors you mongoloid.

At least Trump’s health secretary is focusing on the public health issues that matter..

Don't complain about what comes out of your paycheck then, that's not free healthcare. I worked most of my adult life and recently said fuck it, every paycheck had money come out for Medicaid. Now I'm on it. Funny that you talk like it's "free" when we can sit here and I can add up all the money that I myself paid into that system.

That is some serious doomer sociopathic way of thinking. You need to get off Anon Babble and stop watching gore.

Was National Socialism good for the people of Germany, yes or no?

It was terrible for them.

What do you do for work now and what will your role be after you seize the means of production?

antisemitism is the biggest health issue and disease our society is facing

-Trump’s health secretary
Wew, nice priorities, Republicans.

And yet they do help the working class. More taxes have never helped anyone tho. Why does every commie itt think nigger scum on welfare are the working class?

Why do you liberal retards think """free""" actually means free and that government run anything is better?

Medicare and Medicaid are different things.

it's usually people who make poor lifestyle choices who end up needing healthcare.
skateboarders
cigarette smokers
alcoholics
drug addicts
obese people

i don't be any one of these

i haven't been to a doctor since i was a child. i am now 40
i attribute this to not being any of the above

It is going to fail regardless.
The question is whether you want it to take down the entire economy or not. We will end up like Argentina if we continue like this.

Two thirds of people on medicaid are employed, with 44% of people on medicaid working full time. You dont need to be flat broke to be on it

this faggot has an adult male adopted Haitian "son" who is a career criminal and should still be in prison even by his own admission. but johnson continually bails him out of trouble.

I love it when conservatives act like anybody who ever needs financial help even once is a loser, when its the loser cuckservatives in my area repeatedly choosing suicide by cop because they are having "financial difficulties."

But that's all a good thing.
I'm for amrmutts suffering.

40% is less than half you retard. Obviously it's NOT in their economic interests for the 60% (ie the majority of the votes and the ones who elected him) to keep medicaid around.

You know anyone could get a deadly cancer at any time right?
Blaming people for getting sick or having health issues is retarded.

He did it for his political career. His district has lots of religious black folk in it.
It's now pretty common for white politicians in the south to adopt a black male child to ingratiate themselves with the black electorate.

90 percent of cancer is due to lifestyle

Millions must die in the streets to achieve the fiscal responsibility that owning a reserve currency renders moot.

youre a retard. the countries iwth the cheapest healthcare have it cheap because of regulations

I want the government to run [something]

Why are they like this?

Cool did you read that on some MIGA boomer website that says fish tank cleaner and horse dewormer is the key to healthy living?

Tax rates go in tiers. Raising taxes on someone who doesn't pay federal income tax doesn't hurt the working class. Raising taxes increases revenue from the wealthy who have deposable income.

That's why democrats say trickle down economics does not work because it doesn't work. At the most tax cuts will spur more growth and jobs. But still that won't help working class people get out of poverty as they are still working for the middle or upper classes.

Maybe thats why it should be cut? Medicare is supposed to be a safety bet for the poor and down on their luck. Not just a creeping form of universal healthcare that obamacare attempted to turn it into.

Correction.
Our entitlements should be gone.

If one more bomb makes it to Israel, and one more contract to a senators brother it will be worth it.

nope
it's from wikipedia

Let’s see those cuts
Not that I don’t believe you but I don’t believe you

Socialists produce a lot of propaganda to justify their actions. Economically illiterate people eat it up and refrain from investigating the issue further, to their own detriment.

environmental factors

Like all the pollution and toxic garbage that republicans are letting corporations put into the environment with their deregulation?

That's retarded. Did you not see what just happened with eggs? The prices spiked, because egg company CEOs colluded to raise the price as much as possible. Prices only came down after the DOJ began to investigate it. If given totally free reign, companies will cooperate with each other, not compete.

The government does not owe you free healthcare.

Yes they do, you paid for them with your taxes but they pissed them into Israel

Wait until you find out the neoliberals who larp like they care about you don't really care. I bet you think neoliberal ghouls like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi actually care about liberal social issues

I think it makes more sense to give Israel a piece of western Australia for a homeland. Muslims will never stop fighting.

How much money has been spent on wars for Pissrael over the past 20 years?
literally could've had free public health for that lol
and this fucking golem voted for another 200 billion increase in the military
lmao

Democrats have never said anything that wasnt self serving lies.the working class are the ones that pay taxes and thats the result of almost a century of liberal democrat rule. Thats why the working class votes trump while noggers whores and deadbeats vote for obviously worthless trash like biden and harris simply to keep the benefits flowing from the workers to themselves.

A healthy, prosperous nation is one where its people are strong, smart, and healthy. Just admit you are praying for the end of the United States by keeping the masses dumb and sick.

I bet you think neoliberal ghouls like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi actually care about liberal social issues

Of course you do, you assume a lot.

cope, you nigger-loving boomer

That's what i said.
It is though. it's being used by people working paycheck to paycheck helping them make ends meet. Republicans are just going to crazy cutting all entitlement programs because their goal is to destroy the federal government.

I want healthcare to be cheap and abundant and am educated enough to know that socialized medicine produces the opposite outcome.

Why do Conservatives vote against their own economic interests?

I vote to not have half my paycheck stolen, how is this against my economic interests?

You on the other hand, vote in favor of giving half your check to the government to feed starving crocodiles in africa because that's important to you. You don't need government to do that for you, you can just write a check yourself. There are plenty of nigerian bankers that are waiting to make your dreams a reality.

three browns want to see the game without paying for tickets

what is the message here?

Its being used by niggers. It was never intended as a long term healthcare option. Why does every commie libshits forget that welfare is supposed to be temporary? I guess they never expect their “help” to actually help someone.

So he represents the 60% majority. What the fuck do you want him to do? Be a heckin good person?

it's not a good idea to be on medicaid while you own a home. The government can take your home

Out, shill. A free market is what has destroyed the internal production and manufacturing of this country. We're not giving you any more shekels so we can destroy the population and health of the nation further.

Because they think their leaders have their racial interest in mind when in reality they couldn't care less.

Who are you kidding, leftist faglord. Democrats fuck over everyone also. All their grift goes to scams to save Afros or the ocean rising that money then slides back to dnc. Republicans do same thing but not to Afros

No the working classes do not pay federal income taxes. I'm talking about the working class shlubs at fast food places, big box stores. You are thinking more of the middle and upper classes who own businesses or get paid large salaries. That's not the working class. The ones who receive benefits which the Republicans are cutting are the working class.

Why do Conservatives vote against their own economic interests?

They think it's worth it for social issues... Not realizing rich people don't give a fuck about the same things normal people want like reduced immigration

you are clearly retarded
rich people are NOT the working class.

Yes i agree it is helping minorities. That is why minorities vote democrat. Welfare in America has become necessary for millions of people because financialization has destroyed the middle class.

Basically in America you are either rich or you are poor. There is no inbetween anymore. Those working class people rely on welfare because they don't have stock options like the upper classes do.

Yea the working class pays the taxes. Not the billionaires and not the subhuman leeches that vote democrat. Zoomer retards spouting marx dont even know what the working class is. Niggers on welfare and some faggot working at starbucks is not the working class. The working class are the blue collar workers who have been hurt the most by democrat policies over the last 40 years and thats why they overwhelmingly voted trump in the last election.

A free market healthcare system is efficient and productive

You don't have that though, your system is most likely the least efficient in the entire world.
Big pharma is heavily subsidized, healthcare is heavily subsidized, and you as a people pay above market price for their services, while they also take your tax money.
Imagine defending the dogshit system you have there, absolutely mong tier.

Except in your worldview the workers are the upperclass and the deadbeat niggers are the proletariat. The complete opposite of actual marxism.

Greedy bastards have driven America to the brink of bankruptcy and complain about EVERY SINGLE SPENDING CUT.
They want nothing cut.

we don't have a free market system

Welcome to the 21th century is obviously overpopulated

Zoomer retards spouting marx dont even know what the working class is

indeed, neoliberals managing to redefine lumpenproles as working alss whilst simultaneously redefining the (actual) blue collar working class as apparatchiks of the elites has been a tour de force in mental psyoping

Conservatism is a ponzi game of success. By becoming a conservative you're putting down a marker that you want to climb and you'll suck the dick of the guy above you on the ladder to do it. In return the jews at the top will consider you one of the good ones. If you actually got something to offer they'll bring you in the tent and bankroll you. If all they want is your vote, they'll feed you some bullshit, buy you a beer, spend whatever money on you that is reasonable to get what they want (votes for lower taxes and more money to Israel)

You are just discriminating. Working at starbucks is working class just like a janitor or city worker. Those who don't make enough money do not pay federal income taxes. They are too low in the income bracket.

Working class people did not vote Trump. Republicans voted Trump. Wealthy people voted trump. Your talking points are moot. You know why Republicans voted trump? For tax cuts. The whole returning manufacturing jobs is a talking point. It would take the total destruction of wall street to bring back manufacturing to the united states. You can blame democrats for this but it was the rich who sent manufacturing offshore for profit.
I never said the upper class were the working class. Yes those disfranchised are the working class like minorities and all sorts of races working at amazon, walmart, big box stores, fast food ect.

I own a means of production. Does this mean that I am not part of the working class?

SeeYou dont know anything about the garbled theirs you clearly picked up second hand from some jewish professor. Its you that directly attacks the working class and defends its exploitation by the state to the benefit of protected political clients.

The definition of who is working class changed because the economy changed. America still has manufacturing workers who pay federal income tax like automotive, oil and gas. You can say those are working class sure but do they represent the majority? Not anymore. Union workers actually make really good money so of course they want tax cuts.

Republicans are the party of the rich.
Democrats are the party of the poor

Democrats have globalist elites
Republicans have in house buisness moguls.

The definition of who is working class changed because the economy changed. Are you telling me people working paycheck to paycheck without paying federal income taxes are not working class?

Who are they then?

Yes thats right tradition is a ponzi scheme and conservatives love isreal despite the fact that it was democrats that gave israel more money than ever to engage in genocide. Why is sweden such a meme?

Nothing has changed. You just want the scum of society to steal from the working class alongside while the rich laugh it up. How many more decades of libshit rule before the rich start paying their fare share? Two perhaps?

I don't care if it's better or worse I just care that someone can get screened for cancer or find out they have MS early and find treatment. Jesus christ it's like you think everything is because of bad diet and poor exercise while you worshipping a McDonald's binging freak of nature. And I say all this without even being all that liberal.

Medicare is literally for niggers.

What economic interest faggot?
What federal fucking money did l ever get??
And if l'm not getting any (and no one l care about is getting any) why the hell would l support more gibss for niggers???
This what your (((means tested))) anti-white faggot sliding scale bullshit gets you.
You want to do something popular??
Actually give EVERYONE free healthcare like you keep fucking talking about; you didn't even when you cu.ckolded husks had 60 votes in the Senate!
Why? Because it has never. fucking. been about helping people to you.
lts been about fucking over white people.
That is ALL you fucking care about.

Okay, what was cut? Not every dollar going into medicaid is going directly to people that need it. So tell me, what exactly was cut?

Drug companies shouldn't be able to just set prices of lifesaving drugs to whatever they feel like. With other industries, the consumer has a choice to not buy them; with patented drugs, that means hurting physically or dying. Exploiting that 'demand' to make your drug way more valuable than gold is totally fucked and it should be regulated in the US like it is everywhere else

Yes the economy changed. When China joined the WTO manufacturing in America was sent overseas. It changed over 40 years ago and now Republicans want to reverse engineer the economy by dismantling wall street and getting rid of entitlement programs.

Trump and Elon literal billionaires are the avatar of the Republicans. Working class have their own billionaires like Bezos, Bloomberg and Zuckerberg. It's just you disagree with how the economy is run which is why we can't reach an agreement on who the real working class is. Although my argument is anyone who doesn't pay federal income tax is working class and those wealthy Republicans who do aren't.

So let me ask you again what would you call those working at amazon, walmart, big box stores, fast food who don't pay federal income tax? Are they just less alive than the rest of the country? You don't respect them as human? And now you want to take away their entitlement programs because you don't want to pay taxes to help them.

And you can't force those who don't claim a taxable salary to pay taxes. Elon does it too. He gets stock options so he doesn't have to pay taxes.

This

relies on

As if that's somehow good.

Wow... sounds like you Democrats could make huge electoral gains if you just stopped trying to take away guns and force school children to transition then.
I wonder why you don't.

Crazy how democrats can convince people that being in poverty is in their economic interest.

kys you retarded fucking kike

if you are successful enough to pay taxes you shouldn't be complaining.
Democrats are the party of the KKK. Glad you finally figured it out.

No, you don't get it. Being on medicaid, snap, and rent assistance is actually good for you and everyone else. It's practically UBI! Vote Democrat!

Working class people did not vote Trump

Lmao. Demonstrable lie.

Drug companies shouldn't be able to just set prices of lifesaving drugs to whatever they feel like.

You're right. Drug companies 'name their price,' because George W Bush (the Neo-Con), created Medicare part D, which is a prescription drug plan that helps Americans pay for prescription drugs. A specific provision of the bill forbid the government from negotiating the prices of prescription drugs. Therefore, the price of prescription drugs is whatever the company thinks is right, which is usually related to the cost of R&D, but not always. The company has an incentive to inflate the price.

If no one could afford the drug, it would not sell. But because government is the major buyer, the prices are vastly inflated.

Under traditional Marxian analysis, no you are not. You would be considered bourgeoisie, no matter how little you make. But that's why virtually everyone has abandoned Marx's original paradigm (it is gay and retarded.)

This
Fuck niggers , Jews and people who won’t work for a living

And to give to tens of millions of illegals
Lmao

Oops forgot the image.
Republicans voted Trump working class people voted Hillary.

But thats what we do when we vote against third world hordes coming into our nations

What people voted Trump across all economic strata. It's not 1960 anymore. Stop lying, it just makes you look retarded.

White people*

That already happens with 60,000,000 illegals

now, who votes against their economic interests?

Immigration is about lowering labor costs and Republicans always want more.

Now, who votes against their economic interests? What, voters aren't Democrats or Republicans? Voters are voters, and the voters have never voted for mass immigration ever? Yes, that's right. No one has ever voted for mass immigration. You establishment faggot.

Yes Republicans voted Trump i already mentioned this. You can't call them "working class" though. Working class people work with their bodies not their minds.

Why do Conservatives vote against their own economic interests?

Is this guy inspired by this man in the image?

doesn't understand distinctions between different bourgeoisie

you're just as retarded as the other pink poster

Imagine pretending they are
separate parties dems / reps
Their is the Uniparty and MAGA

Most are as much NPCs as they claim their opposition to be. One look at a /ptg/ thread can show you that.

This. Drop social security while you’re at it. I’m banking on not seeing a dime. Give me my 6.2% back.

There's obviously many things that go into "conservatism", OP was talking about economics on a generic left-right scale. That's what I responded to, why someone would cheerlead the economic interests of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos over his own. >Muh tradition is irrelevant to that discussion.

The American empire died in 1965 with the hart cellar act

More money was given to Ukraine in 3 years than all the money given to Israel since its founding in 1948.
All Jews need to die, but stop the hypocrisy, retarded nigger.

* I cant be held responsible for the retarded and confused terminology you amerimutts have introduced into the political vocabulary. Left-right is much more clear to me than your prefered conservative-liberal scale

I would say the Republic died instead.

They literally did in 2018. Significantly for most normal people because the standard deduction and child tax credits doubled. Rates across the board dropped and it’s a much larger proportional impact on poorer people. Go ahead, try to prove my math wrong. A married couple with 2 kids only earning $80k had a 76% of their taxes. A married couple with 2 kids earning $1M had a 7% reduction.

40% is less than 60% retard

American education...

Not even close

you're "broke" because your government refuses to tax the top 10%, refuses to socialize healthcare, the pension system and most of the housing stock

If people die in the streets, then so be it.

You do realize that you're made of meat

The free market price of labor is slavery Aka 0 min wage if allowed.

and drug prices would be lower if you had a single socialized healthcare system or the government simply negotiated prices with producers. British and EU pharmaceutical companies are making a killing in America because your federal government is refusing to crack down on their price gouging

That's right.
Business want the lowest labor costs they can get.
So they 'enslave' robots to do the work when possible.

Boomers want to keep their "earned profits" and don't want to move production back overseas. It'll cost a lot of money :(

The tariffs are literally a tax on the rich. Why do liberals vote against their own economic interests?

Boomers

you mean capitalists

The tariffs are literally a tax on the rich

the rich

*consumers
FTFY

I know... Because boomers and people who own all the fucking money also own CNN.
Take a step back and let's look at why our production is overseas in the first place....
The original plan was to make America "White Collar" and move "Blue-Collar" jobs over seas for 3rd world animals to do instead. Liberal big brain in action.

Trump’s tariffs are the first actual move in my lifetime that does anything about the gutting the American working class since the 1970s. It’s not symbolic. It’s not cosmetic. It’s a direct economic counterstrike against decades of corporate offshoring, political cowardice, and globalist dogma. And the best part? It’s going to work, because it targets the only thing that drives corporate behavior: cost. Trump dropped a blanket 10% tariff on every imported good. No exceptions. Then he added escalators of 20%, 30%, even 40% on some countries. That means nearly every product made overseas now hits the border with a penalty. So if you're a CEO still chasing $0.60-an-hour labor in Vietnam, guess what? You're about to get fucked. That offshoring strategy you’ve leaned on for three decades just became your guillotine. Stop with the “Oh no, prices will go up!” hand-wringing. We’re already $36 trillion in debt, with a $1 trillion annual trade deficit and a $2 trillion budget deficit. You think that’s free? You think being totally dependent on hostile countries for basic goods doesn’t come with a cost? This is the bill coming due and finally, it’s not being handed to the working class alone.

After WWII, America was a manufacturing juggernaut. We built the world. Then the geniuses in Washington decided it was smart to export all the dirty work and become a “service economy.” Which sounded great until you realize that “services” now means one guy writing code while ten others are delivering DoorDash. In 1979, nearly 20 million Americans worked in manufacturing. Today? Barely 12 million, even with a 30%+ population increase. And the kicker is: that drop wasn’t because Americans couldn’t compete. It was because our own leaders rigged the system against them. NAFTA, China’s WTO membership, endless free trade deals were all designed to let corporations ship jobs overseas, then ship products back here tariff-free. That’s not capitalism, that's suicide.

Between 2001 and 2020 alone, we lost over 3 million jobs to China. We handed them a $5 trillion trade deficit and acted like that was just how progress works. Meanwhile, our towns collapsed. Our wages stagnated. And the only advice we got was “go to college.” Spoiler: that didn’t fix anything either. They replaced shop class with student loans. They turned a generation of potential electricians, machinists, and welders into overeducated baristas with $100k in debt and no health insurance. We told kids that working with your hands was low-class and that the future was all spreadsheets and branding consultants. What did we get? A bloated “knowledge economy” that can’t even pay rent. It's just an aside that we're also malnourished at the same time as being obese and diabetic.

White-collar jobs aren’t the salvation they were pitched as. Sure, some people make bank. But most graduates are drowning in debt, working entry-level jobs with prestige inflation and zero upside. In what universe is a college degree the new requirement for breaking even? You used to be able to build a life off a high school diploma and a factory job. That was normal. That was sustainable. And now it's a fucking fantasy. The tariffs hit this broken setup directly in the face. They make offshoring expensive again. They make domestic production competitive again. You want to keep sending jobs to China? Fine. But you're going to eat that cost on the backend. And if you don’t want to eat it? Good. Fire up the plant in Indiana. Hire Americans again. That’s the whole point.

Of course, this isn’t the only thing killing wages. For decades, we’ve flooded the labor pool with tens of millions of foreign workers. Legally, illegally, on visas, you name it. Corporations wanted cheap labor. Politicians delivered. And who paid the price? Not the rich. Not the political class. It was the construction worker whose wages stopped rising in 1995. The meatpacker who suddenly had to train someone who didn’t speak the same language. The high school grad who realized there are no jobs that pay enough to live on unless you have a degree and perfect teeth.

You don’t need a PhD in labor economics to get this. If you increase the supply of workers while shipping demand for labor overseas, of course wages get crushed. That’s not racism. That’s arithmetic. That’s the cold math Washington has been ignoring for decades. Trump’s tariffs are the first serious attempt to flip the incentive structure.

And yes, the people who benefited from the old setup are losing their minds. The globalist pundits. The Silicon Valley billionaires. The multinational execs. They’re all clutching their pearls because their profit margins just got torched. Good. These are the same assholes who said “this is just the cost of a modern economy” while they slashed pensions and turned full-time jobs into contract gigs. They’re worried about a trade war. Here’s the reality: we’ve already been in one. We just weren’t fighting back. For decades, countries like China used tariffs, subsidies, and currency manipulation to carve out dominance while we sat there like retards.

Now, we’re finally swinging back. You think China, South Korea, or Germany got rich by playing fair? They protected their industries. They invested in their people. They made sure they weren’t dependent on anyone. Do you even understand if there was a war there would be no more medication in America? Do you even understand how retarded that is, and how many millions of people would die in a matter of months with just no blood pressure medication alone? Except that now we’re doing the same. Will it fix everything overnight? No. But it’s the first real movement we’ve seen in decades. It’s a rejection of the suicidal economic policies that gutted our workforce and hollowed out the middle class. It’s a hand on the wheel, finally pulling the country away from the cliff.

If you’re pissed off about your paycheck, your debt, or the fact that the only jobs in your town are Amazon warehouses and Uber shifts, this is the first step toward changing that.

It turns out if you gut out your working class communities from work, they don't just "learn to code". Did you know we had 300,000 fentanyl deaths during the covid epidemic? That the rate didn't drop after lockdown was over? I feel like that should fucking bother people a lot more than it does.
Feels like we should stop giving a shit about Ukraine and Israel for 2 fucking seconds and fix this.

40%

relies of Medicaid

That seems like an issue
Why is nearly half the district reliant on a program that was intended to be supplementary for the rare people that fall through the cracks?

Do you think EBT and unemployment cost the taxpayer more or less than do corporate welfare and subsidies?

I would end all welfare.
Work or starve.
EBT is a criminal breeding program.

Trump has overseen significant declines of new arrivals into the USA 2x now while Biden set a record for illegal immigration set by Bill Clinton and Obama weaponized legal immigration with refugee admissions and TPS status. When he got called out on insane ICE activity under him in 2013 he permanently gutted interior enforcement and removals from the upper 44 states fell from 240,000 a year during his first term to not even 230,000 his whole second term. Zion Don is unironically on track for 480,000 interior removals a year and he is hardly trying

And yes, the people who benefited from the old setup are losing their minds. The globalist pundits. The Silicon Valley billionaires. The multinational execs. They’re all clutching their pearls because their profit margins just got torched.

lolwut. Who do you think is paying for Trump to be promoted every day? The new manufacturing economy is onshoring jeets instead of outsourcing to third world countries with poor IP protection.

cultural interests, homogenous interests, morals interests, dignity interests.

Conservatives don't support any of those interests, either.

You're actually so retarded I can't help you, sorry.

No they don't their aid is more or less free weapons and

0.8% of their GDP

kek Americans are fat drug addicts. Half of Americans preferably would have to be less than 50% more body fat than me, I am at 8% so 12% or lower, to qualify for social programs

yeah okay, I'm just dealing with a jew.

tariffs still in place

legal immigration already lowered

out of context quote

We're just gonna primary him. He's a career politican with zero life skills. It's time he pulls himself up by his boot straps and work.

USA 0.6% Asian Indian in 2000

USA 0.9% Asian Indian in 2024

USA 12.5% Hispanic in 2000

USA 19.5% Hispanic in 2024

Stop telling me about my country

Elong buck

He ain't sitting next to Trump anymore is he?

Nothing I mentioned had anything to do with Elon and his fucking Indian shipping agenda. Obviously that goes against our interests. Why bring that up when that wasn't the point or anything that had to do with what I said? That's what I mean. You're so retarded you don't absorb good information, you reject it with ... other good information? Retard. You're a retard.

Stop telling me about my country

Somebody needs to.

He ain't sitting next to Trump anymore is he?

ah so now the miggers have dumped another savior and will pretend they never shilled for him

Please give us 8 % (the rate here) of your income for getting healthcare associated infections after 3 months in a queue.

It's hilarious when people assume people will be restricted from buying private insurance just because a universal option exists.

Need more money for Israel,
Simple as

No Lie

Cohen

No kike, I will curse you with the greatest curse a kike can be called upon: gimme a fucking refund

Democrats are the party of the KKK

Where do you people come from and why hasn't a nigger killed you yet? Hilldawg simped for Saul Alinsky and Bill pardoned members of the Weather Underground that later ended up running Obama and BLM.

Trump can't end the H1B program because congress created it and set the cap and he needs 60 senate votes to repeal it. He instead doubled the minimum wage for H1B visas making it more expensive than hiring Americans which would now be more possible. He also stopped issuing EB5 visas

Also the super majority of medicaid recipients are negro in his district

medcaid

Medicaid is a government program in the United States that provides health insurance for adults and children with limited income and resources. The program is partially funded and primarily managed by state governments, which also have wide latitude in determining eligibility and benefits, but the federal government sets baseline standards for state Medicaid programs and provides a significant portion of their funding. States are not required to participate in the program, although all have since 1982.

doubled the minimum wage for H1B visas

epi.org/publication/h-1b-visas-and-prevailing-wage-levels/
Evidently not, but it was never about wages. The point is dispossessing white people.

good information

You're a spiritual boomer making up cope fanfiction about a man whose campaign was funded and whose staff are infiltrated by silicon valley security state oligarchs.

Yeah, there's an agreement with jews that they'll protect the holy relics in Israel from Muslims.

There are literally caves full of ancient tile art depicting mary. The grave jesus was supposedly put in. All of those holy places where he baptized john etc. That's why we actually care about Israel. Because Muslims are garbage and can't take care of shit. They let it go they don't preserve. Jews moved there (it is THEIR original holy land that Muslims base THEIR religion on and JEWS have homage right to it, not Muslims. It would be like saying Christians have more right to it than jews. Mecca is their main holy land. Mecca is where Muhammad lived)
So in the past when Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, all those places were full of buddhists and Muslims invaded, slaughtered, raped and integrated them into Muslim culture, and they destroyed all of their relics and statues, America is like "Wow, can you not do that to OUR main religion's ancient relics? Just cause you hate jews?" Of course not. They're animals. Egypt, a Muslim country, do not even accept Gaza refugees. They are subhuman. They're like the somalians who cut women in half and save their bottom half to rape later. Subhuman.

That's my theory on why we care so much about Israel. I don't think it's the jews I think it's just that "the jews wanna be there and are better than Muslims in preserving our history"

Fuck niggers on welfare! This is exactly what I voted for.

According to this twitter screencap I'm unemployed and unemployable because orange man is bad.

How many of those jobs did you apply for? At any point along the way if you believed that you weren't being hired because your not a nigger, did you consider just identifying as a black woman on your cover letter or resume?

Still supporting Trump

ended refugee resettlement

Not issuing EB5 visas

public charge rule potential immigrants have to prove they can afford healthcare

ended TPS status for 2,000,000 immigrants

I am not arguing with you just sit down and be humble

Which USAID grant was paying you before you got DOGEd?

If we just started letting the useless, smelly people over 80 die, doctors and nurses would barely be able to find enough to do on a typical hospital shift, and we could easily afford to pay for everyone else. I support destroying Medicaid because I hate niggers, though, to be honest.

Yeah okay. I can see I wandered in a /ptg/ jeet thread by mistake kek. Time to dump and shoah you parasitic newfaggots. Posting this first since Kushner's golem love to call everyone a tranny.

nan has MEDICARE for seniors retard. Most of the people on medicaid in Johnson's district are niggers and single moms with mulatto kids

If people die in the streets, then so be it.

A succinct summary of the Republican platform.

There is literally 0 29 year old men of any race working or not on welfare. Most recipients are females and most of the males on it are children

Oh no, philosophy that doesn't tell you to kill yourself and that life is so meaningless we should just bedrot to death before the sun explodes.

the republican and democratic parties are both the same jewish party

Taxes don't fix deficits, dipshit.
We need to cease this reckless government spending.

we believe in tariffs and paying less of our paycheck. The Reagan democrats with their super majority of the house and senate gave us these things so you could say these exact words now but it doesn't work

philosophy that tells you to kill yourself and that life is so meaningless we should just bedrot to death

That's exactly what the enlightenment liberalism you promote is.

The restrictions happen with easier access to a now more over-encumbered healthcare system. The threshold of reasons to visit the ER lowers.

they ran away already

kek I should have gotten here earlier

Just goes to show the indians that Kusher pays to astroturf Trump here aren't interested in the truth.

to be fair(?) republicans went full fake news shilling to cover up the bill as it was leading up to being passed

Spam isn't an argument, you haven't said I'm wrong with anything you've posted.

endwokeness

lol

This. I will happily watch this anons family die painfully in the street if it means I can afford a new US-made iPhone for the low low price of $10,000usd

The sad thing is that Trump 2016 at least pretended to be America first. Trump 2024 is bush era neocons back with a vengeance.

Just confirmed btw. Even the jews laugh at the stupid animals who still think the system will save you.

Send video evidence pls.

Here is video evidence of liberals doing what you say republicans do. So I'm brushing it off as some internal projection until you do, ty.

youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE

It's not "conseratives" its CHRISITANS and their absolute piss poor understanding of the capitalism/socialism debate.

They think "poor people" are magically all parasites. Even Ayn Rand pointed out that's not the case. But they're misguided and think "small government" means cutting out social programs aggressively, first... when all the economists they pretend they know about said you should cut welfare
ONLY
WHEN
THE
FREE
MARKET
CAN
HANDLE
THE
CUT

So with no wage increases, with inflation on consumer goods... cutting social programs is violating the rights of the people who paid into it and were goading into accepting it and taking it because the lack of private charity or private wages being paid out for everyone.

This is retarded and I regret voting for this motherfucker.

I pay into and use it. Wah some more. I'm sick of

CHRISTKEK DIDNT GET SOMETHING SO NO ONE CAN HAVE ANYTHING

Pray to Jewsus, King of Jews for your healthcare then.

MUST OWN THE LIBS
MUST OWN THE LIBS
MUST OWN THE LIBS
MUST OWN THE LIBS
MUST OWN THE LIBS

This is how corruption (and low IQ people that fall for it) works:

They tax you $1000 for "Medicaid"

They use $100 on "Medicaid" and steal $900

When people naturally ask about the missing $900, they say: "Oh so you don't want healthcare?"

Something really strange about this guy, like he's really 21 but has been digitally aged.

you don't understand capitalism. People will certainly try and help people dying on the streets, but the help must be voluntary and not forced.
When our socialist system is replaced with a free market system, healthcare will be more abundant and affordable

Fuck you chriscuck assholes who cut off programs for people actually working.

You complete dumbasses thinking everyone on medicaid isn't working shows you're the absolute fucking liars here.

Kushner's boys have probably run away to a new thread to push their bullshit but whatever, I'm done.

It's not Boomers, it's Capitalists!
It's not Capitalists, it's Christians!

Who here actually holds all the money?
I feel like it's not Christians, it's PROJECTION!

Oh wait no it is boomers.

that pic of prominent right wing shill accounts all getting community noted for lying about the bill that is being discussed in here isn't evidence? kys jeetshill

N o reason

I always see this argument with West VA. But the poor af people there probably aren’t voting conservative, the people with actual jobs are

The GOP will fund the campaign of a radical progressive leftist to run against him in his district.
He will not lose because the DNC is full of radical progressives who will just fund whoever is most popular because they are progressive idiots.

I have a job and use medicaid, ya'll need to stop with the christcuck cartroon stereotypes and actually go experience reality for once.

You have to have a job to qualify for these programs. The idea that some nigger is shitting around sucking up everyone's money for free while not working is just a boogeyman in your head.

The nigger isn't you but your doctor and the entire medical industrial complex.

He did and your lying