Treason

Treason

That's not how tariffs work

I'm getting worried. They can't post stuff like this on twitter if it isn't really happening.

Enjoy paying $2 for you $1 temu order, suckers.

forcibly take money from businesses

they now have increased costs

prices rise to cover this cost

Treason!

MIGAnomics

This literally isn't happening.

MIGAmutts said consumers don't have to pay though

1.) tariffs have nothing to do with retail value

2.) the tariffs were implemented a week ago, its going to take 8-12 weeks before they actually affect prices

U.S. businesses add a tariff fee

Trump suspends the tariffs for 90 days

You pay the fee anyway

It's all so tiresome.

Don't shop liberal shithole Traitor Ho's.

inb4source

easy, just buy from somewhere else. Big jew owned chains won't be getting as many customers, while mom and pop owned stores thrive.

It's real simple, I just won't pay it

adding tariffs to shopping carts??
what?? its going to cost to use a shopping cart now? am i going to have to use 2 quarters for the Aldi's cart now?

forcing people to pay costs that don't exist yet

nothing should surprise me at this point but i can't believe these faggots are actually defending the businesses they wanted burned to the ground up to one week ago.

Treason

No friend, it's the Art of the Deal.

tariffs have nothing to do with retail value

Imagine being this dumb

Maybe you should start buying goods made in the US then? Just a thought.

what do you mean we should explicitly add our bosses bonuses to your bills

oy vey goy you better not vote against our interests here's how much this hurts you

kike manipulation

you know the tariffs were never paused right? 10% baseline still there plus your maple tariffs etc

can prominently tell customers what is tariffed and how much

cant tell customers what is made in the u.s.

shut it down

If business had any balls they'd clearly break out what the tariffs are doing.

E.g. for a car the window sticker should have the MRP, and then clearly show the added "TRUMP TARIFF ADJUSTMENT" on top. This also will make it easier for prices to come back down afterwards, otherwise they just become the new normal.

Or just you know, throw a brick threw the biggest window of any shop trying to grift using "tariffs" as an excuse
It's how I punished an HOA for fining my mom over a potted plant
I showed them that rocks are an ancient brute force method to make companies pay expensive repair bills or break
I threw a rock through window
Then did it again the next week
Then did it again
By week four they installed cams
I wore a mask, walked up with step ladder and cut camera down, and threw the camera through the window of their office

A determined urban terrorist cannot lose
There is always stuff to break windows with

freedumb tax

Actually small businesses will be more impacted by tariffs and many will be bankrupted because of it, because large corporations receive tax money and are more resilient due to economies of scale.

ignores zionists

That's the real treason right there.

Leaked audio: AIPAC leader details control over Trump natsec team

youtube.com/watch?v=pHo7hyEczg0

Also more able to beg / bribe Trump for relief.

Besides fascism and autsrky, Trump's actions are pushing the US even more towards monopoly corporatism since unless you have a direct line to the president you can no longer play.

Coca-Cola 1.99 $

Sales tax: 0.20 $

Local taxes: 0.15 $

Duty: 0.08 $

DEI contribution: 0.40 $

Tariff fee: 0.99 $

NAFO aid: 0.05$

Tip: 5.00 $

Total: $8.86

Do Americans really?

Trump making America skinny again

Price gouging was inevitable. There will be consequences for retailers doing this.

large corporations receive tax money

Government sponsored grocery stores? America sounds awful...

This
Rocks are free

easy, just buy from somewhere else

that would been an option if they had had some time.
changing supply chains is complex af and in some cases there is nowhere else. you have to build it first.

if ceos at the top of these chains shaved off a few millions from their income (oh no 1 less yacht a year), literally everything could be affordable.

capitalism is fine, but we need to define needless excess

Based

They’re more expensive though. I don’t want to be forced to spend more money

Business owner here - I haven’t added tariff fees because they haven’t actually impacted me yet but as of two months ago I did add a tariff related price adjustment clause to my contract. All of my pricing is based on actual cost of materials so there’s not really a situation in which I would add a tariff surcharge and doing so for most businesses is retarded IMO

Holy fucking based.
If companies want to act like niggers, then we need to act like niggers in response.

Just look up how many different kinds of megacorps receive tax money (they call it subsidies to trick you), you'll be horrified, Tesla is one of them surprise surprise.

It is though. The importer pays the tax. The importer passes the tax on to the consumer.

This also will make it easier for prices to come back down afterwards, otherwise they just become the new normal.

Which is why they're not going to do that.

I came here to say this. The lack of understanding of economics by MAGA supporters will just end up handing the entire country over to large corporations.

if ceos at the top of these chains shaved off a few millions from their income (oh no 1 less yacht a year), literally everything could be affordable.

Do you really not know how retarded you sound? That wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket, the fact people like you can even participate in politics at all is why everything is collapsing. If you have no idea about something, it's better to shut up.

democrat faggot niggers big plan is to turn the word "tariff" into the biggest anti-Trump 'trigger word' they can, because this will somehow topple his entire regime, and people will 'beg' for democrat rule again

I cannot believe this is what those jewish reptiles big plan is

If you support tariffs you are a traitor

while mom and pop owned stores thrive

the mom and pop stores that got killed due to covid?

That’s disgusting

Modern media

Whcih U.S. businesses? Do you mean ALL of them? How many? Are you just reporting based off of a handful of receipt photos you saw online?
Is this just a story intended to boost the self confidence of people who hate Trump and further entrench them in the "see, I was right?" mindset?
How do they calculate their supposed 'tariff' surcharge?
Do they tell the customer about it before, or after the sale is initiated? Are they treating it like a tax?
How do they justify adding it, instead of just raising the price on the product like normal companies do?
When I go to the grocery store and buy eggs, the grocery store doesn't add

80% increase due to bird flu related chicken culling

To my egg price.
When I go to the gas pump, they just tell me the cost. They don't add

30% OPEC markup

to the receipt

Expect you 1$ tenu order will be $2. Buying it from a local stort will be $10.

Da fuck little Trumpie gon do?

Not in the form of a literal added on charge, anon. That's passive aggressive as fuck, and in no way could possibly be accurate at all.

Tariffs are charged to the wholesaler at the time of import. The cost of the item is already factored into the price paid by the retailer to the wholesaler. The retail price of the item is a calculated markup over the price paid to the wholesaler. It wouldn't be a percentage applied to the transaction total on the receipt. These businesses are openly taking advantage of the customer.

Trump is toppling his entire regime by himself lol

When it makes sense, but mostly they’re more expensive/lower quality. So generally the answer to that is ‘no.’

This, if supermarkets eliminated CEO comp and somehow redistributed the at money back to customers via lower prices I believe it would be a fraction of a %.

And that’s ignoring the loss of management skill by not having a ceo that would collapse the business

I don’t think you can do that. Credit processing doesn’t work that way. Very dishonest

Tariffs are taxes and all taxes are an evil wealth transfer from the poor to the rich by the state.

going to take 8-12 weeks before they actually affect prices

I have a small shop. Fuck you I ain't gonna operate at loss three months because your ass said so

This, if supermarkets eliminated CEO comp and somehow redistributed the at money back to customers via lower prices I believe it would be a fraction of a %.

another foreigner who needs to take an econ 101 class

Won't say the J word

That's how you know it's a bot or controlled op poster

Yep, what's with the UN flag?

This
WTF are they doing hahahaha

You mean rich to the poor?

If taxes transferred wealth from the poor to the rich then I would unironically support taxes lol

If you disagreed with that in the slightest, you know absolutely nothing about economics. You don’t know history, you don’t know science, and you don’t know economics. You are the epitome of the uneducated American who never went to college or read books

Okay I’ll do those whole rant again.

The price you pay at the store has no basis in reality, it’s an arbitrary price based on what market research assumes people will pay. This is why milk is sold at a loss, because consumers generally won’t pay more than a few dollars for a jug of milk. Generally foods have the lowest mark up because they have very little intrinsic value to consumers, electronics have the highest mark up. Tariffs aren’t applied to the retail value, they’re applied to the declared value of the goods as they enter the country. For example, an iPhone has a declared value of around 300 dollars, 75% of what you pay is mark up. Declared value is the raw material of the goods+production costs+manufacturer mark up. Automation has driven production costs down tremendously but apple increases prices because market studies show people are always willing to pay more. The iPhones aren’t even the most extreme example of this, Casio has a nearly 90% mark up on their products.

If a company says they NEED to raise prices because of tariffs they’re simply lying, most tariff pricing is taking advantage of the average consumer not understanding how imports work. What’s going to happen is companies will pay for tons of influencers to make content talking about how horrible tariffs are and how they raise prices, this will accustom people to the new pricing scheme. Nintendo said the Switch 2 would cost $429 in the US and that was before tariffs were even announced, and they said games would cost 80 dollars digital despite the US not having a DST. They knew tariffs were in the news so they took advantage of consumer ignorance to pump up prices. Likewise I wouldn’t be surprised if apple announces a 2000 dollar starter phone.

Small businesses that are simply re-selling Chinese goods will struggle.

Anyone making stuff will benefit. The aim is to grow industry, not retail.

How is it inaccurate? If it costs the company ten dollars more per widget to import widgets, why is it wrong to add the tariff charge of ten dollars to the price of widgets? That’s just the result of a tax. It’s just an excuse to impose a national sales tax anyway.

Price shouldn't increase if you didn't imported all you garbage shit for a third country shithole.
Time to make a blacklist of those faggot businesses who do that shit :)))

What kind of products do you sell?

I was making an argument for open borders of goods and services and zero capital controls and I was called a globalist so I just embraced it and forgot to change it back to the Don’t Tread on Me

Changing it back now

if EVERY massively rich ceo did this it would not be a drop in the bucket you fucking retard

Maybe if you believe fake and gay stories. If you buy an item do you honestly think a company will put a tariff surcharge on it even if it's from inside the US? Fucking retard.

You’re incredibly fucking stupid

grocery bill

LoL

you're both indian, take the meme flags off

(you)

you didnt argue fucking anything you indian memeflag

Did they remove the fine?

Wait. Are you telling me that you honestly think putting a tax on goods won’t raise the price of those goods? Holy shit, you really, really shouldn’t be calling anyone a retard, retard.

Let’s name these companies then.

I will wait until I'm operating at loss to do something about it

Art of the deal

What is there to argue? You never made a point. You just made an absolutely retarded claim with zero evidence or proof

No tariff

Manufacturer: I'll sell you widgets for $1 each

Wholesaler: Deal

Wholesaler: I will sell you widgets for $2 each (100% markup)

Retailer: Deal

Retailer: I will sell you widgets for $4 each (100% markup)

Customer: Deal

Tariff

Manufacturer: I'll sell you widgets for $1 each

Wholesaler: Deal

Government: You owe me 25% on each widget

Wholesaler: I have paid $1.25 for each widget

Wholesaler: I will sell you widgets for $2.50 each (100% markup)

Retailer: Deal

Retailer: I will sell you widgets for $5 each (100% markup)

Customer: Deal

Fair enough, globalism vs nationalism is a false dichotomy in my opinion.

Trump miscalculated

China will pay 104% in tariffs

Miggers actually think that China will: sell a 100 $ thing to USA - give all 100$ to Trump - give additional 4 $ and lose money

Now miggers will realize

It's ME who has to pay

What cost 100$ is now 204$

Holy shit I don't have that kind of money

Kek Xi just has to wait for the tariffs to actually take to effect and Americans will make Trump fold (unless he's actually trying to destroy America)
Look, chuds. TARIFF IS LITERALLY A TAX. A custom duty tax in this case. You're getting more taxes

Imagine buying food products from China

It'll take years for the supply lines to come into being though. Just in time logistics are cancer.

For example, an iPhone has a declared value of around 300 dollars, 75% of what you pay is mark up.

Not true. iPhones are only marked up 30 to 40 percent

Cosmetics, which is 60% Chinese, 40% local business

Yes it does, their prices are higher so yours are too. I don't give a flying fuck about how much you have to pay. At the end of the day, I have a business to run, employees to pay, and a family to feed.
Cope and seethe you retarded, faggot loser ass tranny. Kys

Walmart's CEO made 976 times the median employee's pay last year

do you genuinely think he does 976 times the work or has 976 times the expertise of the average worker?

Do you think it’s okay that only massive corporation would be able to operate in America under these circumstances? That’s what it sounds like you’re saying.

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So it’s itemized and per-country specific? I doubt from the looks of what’s being shown or suggested here.

What I think is happening is companies being lazy and predatory by adding a blanket (likely flat) fee to the entire check as “inflation tax” masquerading as a tariff.

Any company that does this you should boycott. Because I bet if one or more items in your cart are domestic they’re still applying this bogus charge.

you literally HAVE to buy no matter the price tho!

>Retailer: I will sell you widgets for $5 each (100% markup)

>Customer: No deal, I hope your inventory rots

ftfy

okay ill simply not shop there and take my business elsewhere

It really is weird how the left went from "LIVEABLE MINIMUM WAGE!" to "NOOOO, NOT MY HECKIN' CEO PROFITS!"

Based, Americans are fucking stupid and need to be directly shown the cost of things in order for it to register with them. Like how Americans constantly wine about payroll taxes because it shows up on their paycheck (despite half of them getting it all back in EITC anyway) and not the surplus value of the labor their bosses stole from them before they even got that check.

It definitely would retard, divide a million by 100 million and see what you get. Plus the CEO's wouldn't be as motivated and business management would suffer and you'd actually get an increased price as the other anon said, idiotic socialist.

y-you're indian

Is the MIGAtard seriously accusing me of this when Trump wants to import millions of indians? Retard.

Tariffs are a percentage so in the grand scheme of things a 10% tariff has negligible impact on the price of a product. An item with $100 declared value now costs $110, considering the retailer will turn around and sell it for $900 dollars that price is basically nothing.

Tariffs are designed to impact importers, because importers tend to have terrible cash flow a tariff is a major financial disincentive. Tariffs can’t be financed, you have to pay it or you can’t bring the product in.

Tariffs will increase the ability of companies to overcharge you by decreasing competition. This problem will be especially acute because the biggest companies will be best able to lobby for exemptions, and without real competition sales prices can become totally unmoored from the cost of production.

The consumer will get hit much harder by tariffs than any CEO. Stupid argument you just made

we need to tax the rich!

NOOO NOT LIKE THAT

Basic math comparing the last pre-tariffs order to the most recent order will give them the extra tariff cost per unit. Adding the tariff as a separate subtotal item shows the average retard how badly zion don is fucking them over. It's a power move by retailers to generate public outrage

Everything you just said was a non-sequitur and had nothing to do with thre argument.

The CEOs compensation redistributed amongst all 2.1 million employees would be absolutely nothing

And the CEO absolutely produces far more value than 1000x the average employee. Imagine comparing a ceo to someone who stocks shelves at a Walmart branch. He produces immensely more value

Naw. I’m just not buying anything I don’t absolutely need. I refuse to support a national sales tax.

Yeah as if the CEO on his private yacht will care that he can buy 1 less martini this week, lmao they're so stupid.

Tariffs aren’t a tax on the rich you dumb fuck

I'm an ancap you communist retard.

I agree, Krasnov should be publicly hanged

as opposed to the current situation where only massive corporations run american? oh no
why am i dividing a million by 100 million???? the average household only needs about 10k for food per year. If ceos did what I'm saying, we could literally eliminate the cost of food. also prove me wrong about being indian and remove the memeflag (you wont lol)

Taxinf the rich is a shitty idea you retard

what is elasticity of demand

You realize that people don’t have to buy your shit, right? And if they don’t, due to pricing and competition, or the fact it’s a want versus a need, you’re out of business.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FAMILY IF YOU TAKE FOOD OFF MY TABLE I AM TAKING FOOD OFF OF YOURS!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!! AND IF YOU FIGHT BACK I WILL JUST TAKE IT!!! AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!

Yes, and that drives up costs. It just doesn’t matter. If you drive up costs at any one point in the chain, it will drive up costs at the end of the chain.

Prices will still be higher retard, you can't magically wave away a cost with your magical socialist thinking no matter how hard you try.

ahh yes mega corps like amazon and apple arent rich

pay up fucking dog, you wanted your orange memelord in office now here's the receipt

It's not wrong, per se. It's retarded and any company pulling this bullshit is going to learn the hard way. What happens when a competing company decides to eat the tariffs? The one imposing that 'tax' will either have to drop it or go out of business. And don't think there won't be willing to eat the tariffs just to put their competition out of business.

Trump Tariff

Manufacturer: I'll sell you widgets for $1 each

Wholesaler: Deal

Government: You owe me 104% on each widget

Wholesaler: I have paid $2.04for each widget

Wholesaler: I will sell you widgets for $4.08 each (100% markup)

Retailer: Deal

Retailer: I will sell you widgets for $8.16 each (100% markup)

Customer: Wait, what

unironic lolberts

opinion discarded sorry i dont converse with actual retards

run by corporations

that’s why big corproations are fucked over at every turn by Washington and looted so they can give it to poor drug addicts and single mothers

Judging how retarded migatards are, yes, he probably is underpaid.

Then no one will buy from you as soon as the store down the street realizes they can easily undercut you. And your children will starve and freeze and I'll fap to it.

Why hasnt worker wage kept up with ceo wage at all? why are ceo wages exponentially outpacing worker wages? are you next going to argue their productivity is exponentially outpacing worker productivity so the exponential increases in pay are justified? thats insane lmao

as opposed to the current situation where only massive corporations run american? oh no

99.9 percent of businesses in the US are small businesses that employee less than 500 people. You’re going to be fucking them over while mega corps can easily just ride the wave. Just bite the bullet and admit you hate small businesses because that’s exactly what arguing for tariffs is saying

Tariffs are to be paid for products as part of their base price. Its illegal to add a "tariff fee" to a receipt. Tariffs are only charged in products at a port of entry, so it is illegal to tack on a fee for something that was already in the US before the tariff took effect. You cannot just retroactively apply them to everything. That is because domestic goods, like cheese made in Wisconsin, are not subject to tariffs, so charging a set percentage fee on this product is completely fraudulent and the company doing this should immediately be sued.

If I see a tariff fee on something, first, I'm going to shoplift an amount of goods equal to the fee of the tariff to make things right on my end, and then I'll never shop at that store again.

Yes, I expect prices to rise overall as the market adjusts to domestic production. Imported cheese from Italy would rise in price considerably, but domestic products should not rise in price.

I actually own an engineering consultancy and make close to seven figures. I'm also slightly autistic and have a high sense of justice, so I will literally hire a lawyer and sue the company if I get charged a tariff fee. I will make it hurt for them either way.

Finally, companies should be comfortable with lower profits. US corporations have gotten greedy since the 1950s and their shareholders want to make billions instead of just tens or hundreds of millions. For example, UHC made $15B in net profit. Why should a health insurance company make so much profit off the suffering of Americans? If they only made $1B, that should be enough for them since were talking about net profit here, so every salary, tax and operating expense was already paid off before that $15B. Thats why their CEO got shot. They need to behave more patriotically.

or the fact it’s a want versus a need, you’re out of business.

LoL what is MIGA endgame? You wanna help local businesses or you wanna see them bankrupt? You can't have both

i just wont buy their chinese junk

They pass that tax on to the consumer.

thing costs $10 to make and arrive at the store

it is marked up and sold for $40 (!)

tariffs raise the $10 to $15

sales price is increased to $50 to "compensate for the terrifs"

Just go under so the product can go back to $20 where it should be without muh line going down.

its a good thing i didnt say tax the shit out of local small business owners

Sure, I'm just making the point that a tariff never would be your purchase subtotal * X% applied before sales tax at the register. That's just a retailer fucking you. They don't even see the tariffs, they see whatever the wholesaler is charging them. If the wholesaler hypothetically ate the tariff and reduced their margins, there would be no change at the retail level at all. As a customer there's no way to know that.

but domestic products should not rise in price

They will

if 99.9% of small "businesses" are just importing crap from china and producing nothing themselves then they deserve to fail

do you genuinely think he does 976 times the work or has 976 times the expertise of the average worker?

Of the average Walmart worker? Yes.

and that applies to every single tax too retard, except tariffs just tax foreign companies while leaving domestic ones alone

see

well ofcourse the consumer pays it's just VAT but not deductable for company so it's worse than VAT

You unironcially think Amazon and Apple should be taxed.

You’re genuinely stupid and uneducated

Just add $20 "tariff bonus" to your $80/h code monkey fee.

Yes, but then you have bitching share holders, and reduced CEO compensation packages, lower profit margins, less reinvestment, and so on, with marginally profitable businesses going under first obviously. Meaning a lot of the smaller mom and pop places that have to ‘eat’ the tariffs get hit the hardest. The fact is that adding to the price at one point in the chain adds to the price at the end. The idea that ‘lol retailers will just magically be able to lower their costs’ as if the retail industry isn’t already brutally competitive is absurd. Why shouldn’t they tell people what the new tax costs them?

They are getting taxed though if they deal in imports, which are now tariffed.

smartest lolbert

A dozen eggs went down $0.50 the last few days.

Just consider it as you tipping the business. You give a tip everywhere else so it's high time you started doing it at the grocery store too

So you don’t care about American small businesses or American workers. Thanks for admitting it

They're not taxing the rich, they're taxing you when you go and buy shit.

b-but I just won't buy then

If you didn't want the product to some extent, you wouldn't have bought it in the first place. After the tariffs, there will be things you could afford before but no longer can, or in other words, you will be poorer.

That’s not how it works, or at least should work. It’s not “everyone downstream marks up by X”.

pre tariff widget cost $10 to make/ship/import

company sells widget for $30, that’s 200% profit

tariff now makes importing widget cost $5 more

company decides to eat it and goes to 100% profit or raise price by $5 to compensate

It’s not going to be the warehouse AND wholesaler AND retailer all double their prices.

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It's the most Jewish way to up the cost of goods that fall under tariffs. Rather than just raise the price the add a tax at checkout and hope customers are too retarded to look at receipts.

Yes, in the form of higher prices. Not some rando surcharge no matter what was purchased that goes on top of the higher prices.

yes i dont care about useless middlemen that do nothing but import crap from china, if 99.9% of your operations are from china then i dont think thats a very american business

This, I've been subsisting solely off of twinkies, fudge rounds, and Pepsi since the tariffs went into effect just to show my support.

except tariffs just tax foreign companies while leaving domestic ones alone

Are you retarded? Tariffs apply to imported goods. 70% of US small businesses rely on imported goods

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Make sure to pay special attention to the picrel. Walmart mutts shouldn't even be paid

Because nobody wants to be a worker, they all want to be CEOs so nobody's fighting for it because it's just a step towards being a mega rich American hero billionaire with porcelain teeth smile. You can't do that in Europe but you can in the greatest nation in the history of mankind that ever existed and also free speech and guns fuck yeah

Why not? They tell you how much you pay for a state sales tax.

Because CEO productivity is exponentially outpacing worker productivity. These people are optimizing efficiency tactics at topic Ivy League schools. How the hell has a shelve stacker increased productivity in the past 30 years?

Average worker has declined in productivity due to laziness and entitlement and burdensome regulations

They're not taxing the rich, they're taxing you when you go and buy shit.

and how do you think companies pay regular corporate taxes dumbass?

Importing slave made goods to compete against American made goods doesn't help American workers. Have you heard about the banana wars?

mom and pop

chinese dropshipping store

Fuck off, faggot. No one is buying that line.

So you want Americans to be out jobs? Why?

Local businesses that make their own shit from domestic resources are unaffected by tariffs. If you’re a lazy dropship fag selling TEMU shit for a buck then you deserve what comes.

the add a tax

They, retard.

then stop importing shit and make it here, im very sorry your drop shitting business going bankrupt

We all know you're a tranny from reddit and not a libertarian, go 41% yourself and stop shitting up Anon Babble you worthless

Actually, post your address.

i dont think those chink factory workers making their plastic garbage are american

It does help American workers because otherwise you’re putting American workers out of their job that are reliant on those imported goods. People are completely free to buy American made goods right now if they want.

This argument goes hard when you're as dumb as bricks

You can be a local business if you buy american goods. It's that simple.

that's not how it works!!!

when everybody has told him that is exactly how it works

lmao

The people who import those goods, start businesses in American based on those goods, and sell them in America are Americans

First of all tell that to the other guy.
Second of all tariffs are 100% so the widget is now 20 bucks so company's profit just halved. They will just do it as they did it before plus pass the tariff on to the costumer like with VAT or custom duty.

Most intelligent non-libertarian lol

which american workers exactly? useless middlemen and drop shitters should definitely be out of jobs

I hope you realise the end goal is to put a lot of places out of business. No American should give a shit about any company that NEEDS foreign labor and goods to survive. We are beyond the point of giving a shit. I hope millions of people that have been living very comfortably off exploiting the US become jobless and homeless. You wanna sell Chinese junk? Go sell it in China. America is for Americans.

Small businesses absolutely rely on imported goods. Remember these stupid tariffs are in theory getting smeared on a bunch of different countries, not just China. That ignores that even raw materials are being tariffed. That’s what a blanket tariff is. How are you that dumb?
Why? I refuse to support a national sales tax. Just say you support a national sales tax and be done with it. Fuck. Why lie?

So your argument is genuinely that due to new and inventive tactics and business strategies, CEOs are actually just becoming insanely insanely skilled with seemingly no ceiling at growing their businesses?

why is it so inconceivable to you that there is such a thing as your business getting lucky and being early to a market and having so much inertia that the people at the top continue growing at an exponential rate that does not match some growth of skill? is that really so impossible? the alternative is you telling me from 2010 to 2020, CEOs unlocked some new hidden tactics that justified their pays increases exponentially

How are they useless if they’re making money, paying taxes and providing not only jobs to pay American but also providing goods that Americans want to buy?

Close your fucking business then fag, no one cares. There is no person on Anon Babble who voted for Trump and are like "huh. tarrifs?" when he literally had tariffs in his first term, you clearly don't have a business but you're trying to be a little troon playing "former trump supporter here".

Post your address.

so why am i supposed to care about parastic middlemen that sell cheap chink shit for a huge margin?

Based fudge packer

That’s literally why American workers are so rich, imported goods.

Banana wars is proof of this. American worker wages skyrocket

you think it's the 1960's or something? these local stores aren't making their own ceramic plates or manufacturing their own toasters. it's all chinese products, doesn't matter if it's a small store or a large store. it's literally amazon's business model. in the early 2000s some people thought online shopping wouldn't take off because they thought people wanted to be able to compare products in person and see which is higher quality. but amazon got it right because all the products are cheap chinese slop anyway, so you might as well just buy it online for the cheapest price. this is partly why malls died and amazon took over.

Won't you think of the plantation owners?

No

but right now it feels like the problem is the price of stuff and not the quality of stuff, so why would you be so hesitant to buy chinese stuff?

Because they pay taxes to the American government, provide jobs for Americans and sell products that Americans want to buy

USA discover capitalism and free market

You guys must be trolling

Do the basic math you total fucking retard.
Let's say a CEO earns a million dollars a year, and he sells 10 million potatos a year with each potato selling for 5 dollars, meaning the company makes 50 million dollars a year, lets say you reduced his wages a million so he now earns nothing, you put all of his wages into the cost of producing potatos to lower prices, you remove 1 million from 50 million which gets you 49 million, divide that by the amount of potatos you sell which is 10 million, and you get, 4.9 dollars per potato, thats fucking NOTHING, and because you massively reduced the CEO's paycheck, he has less motivation to run the company well and production costs will increase due to inefficiency and costs will likely be far higher than they were in the first place.

You illiterate RETARD, sit down.

Yes, and that’s why I refuse to support this shit. I will do everything I can to avoid paying sales tax because I’m not going to subsidize more useless porch monkeys and house apes than I’m already forced to.

reading comprehension is hard ik ik but if you read you can see where I specifically said that my contracts have a tariff related price adjustment clause in them

Who do you think consumes things the most, you stupid nigger. It's the middle class, as always. A rich fucker won't buy 100x the amount of food just because he has 100x your wealth. This means that more of your wealth gets taxed, because the price doesn't change depending on how wealthy you are.

That's not how tariffs work

That is exactly how tariffs work. Only thing nice is that if retailers tell their customers why some things are more expensive than those used to be.

99.9 percent of businesses in America are small businesses

Congrats you lost the debate by default.

That's not how tariffs work

They just want you to know it's orange man's fault

One company might, another might not or only pass a percentage of it to their customers. Markets with competitors, all it takes is one company doing the latter and the other has to do similar to compete or face losing sales. Less profit per sale is better than no sale at all.

So then the kikes act like kikes and take their ball and go home. Good riddance.

I'm tariffing your post

Shit

Because, unlike you, I want a future for my children in this country. Why the fuck should I help another country's children over my own? I live in America, not China.

How are they useless if they’re making money, paying taxes

well theyre about to pay a lot more taxes lmao

providing not only jobs to pay American

which jobs do they provide exactly and how much?

but also providing goods that Americans want to buy?

they dont provide anything china provides those goods they just sell them at a huge mark up

Careful talking like that. ICE might deport you for antisemitism.

Being this retarded

Do you think every grocery you buy is from a foreign land? Lmao.

Because they pay taxes to the American government,

cool then they can be extra useful by paying more taxes through tariffs

provide jobs for Americans

what jobs and how many?

sell products that Americans want to buy

*sell cheap chink products at a huge margin*
ftfy

here’s why your luxury good is $2000 instead of $500

you’ll still buy it right?

at least we mansplained it for you

not sure that’s how it works

Small businesses absolutely rely on imported goods.

name some

now he earns nothing

hey fucking retard, how about just a comfortable upper class wage instead of a hyper giga rich wage? why is it all or nothing with you? is that the only way you believe you can argue is if you strawman by saying im trying to make the ceo poor? they currently live extremely lavish lifestyles with tons of capitol that does not go back into their businesses you fucking moron.

well theyre about to pay a lot more taxes lmao

They’re going to go out of business and won’t be paying any tax

which jobs do they provide exactly and how much?

70% of American small businesses are reliant on foreign imported goods

they dont provide anything china provides those goods they just sell them at a huge mark up

They provide the capability for Americans to purchase those products? Would you rather Americans buy directly from China and completely wipe out those American jobs and tax revenue?

kike chabad investors meltdown

christian americans who aren't repulsive coin hoarders take their place.

How is this bad for america?

access to cheaper goods so long as they still work is literally helping your children and your future

Why are you (You)ing me twice?

Regular corporate taxes are based on profits, which is in excess of the cost of production. Because they don't raise the cost of production, they don't force increases in sales price, though they usually do of course. Tariffs, however, inherently raise the cost of production because they have to be paid when acquiring the inputs, so they if the tariff exceeds the profit margin, prices will have to increase of the company operates at a loss.

EVEN IF THE CEO'S PAYCHECK ONLY REDUCES BY 50% OR LESS THE SAME MATH STILL APPLIES YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARDED APE, EVEN MORE SO, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW STUPID YOU ARE IF I STUDIED IT.

You fucking joke but here is delivery charge for my electric. My gas delivery is 4x the cost of the actual gas.

What do you mean ‘name some?’ Name one that isn’t. Parts, precursors, raw materials, finished goods, all of these things are impacted by tariffs. All of them.

They’re going to go out of business and won’t be paying any tax

sounds like an opportunity for other non-parasitic businesses to start thriving

70% of American small businesses are reliant on foreign imported goods

and 70% of those are parasitic drop shitters that produce nothing

They provide the capability for Americans to purchase those products? Would you rather Americans buy directly from China and completely wipe out those American jobs and tax revenue?

no im pretty sure anyone can use ali-express and im pretty sure you being a parasitic middleman does not actually add any value to anything

name some types of small "businesses" that need to rely completely on foreign imports

Sounds illegal. Every time I bought something at a store that was mislabeled, the store was required to sell it to me for the listed price. They can't just tack on an extra fee without giving you the total beforehand. If they're going to add a "tariff tax" it should have to be either included in the price or marked somewhere in the aisle.

Because it’s the Christian Americans that end up footing the bill. Then again, for MIGA, any support for chabad is the height of American patriotism I suppose.

If the price of the goods aren't the same as they were without tariffs, then this is double-dipping and fraud.
Did gas stations put "FUCK JOE BIDEN" or "DEMOCRAT SURCHARGE" on their receipts? No, they put the market price for gasoline on there.

This is all true, however companies will use it as an excuse to raise prices, to help normalize a new high. They do this shit all the time anyway. A reminder though mcdonalds operates at a 30% profit margin or some stupid amount, and the ultra wealthy are immune to contribution to society, which is the real issue that this smokescreen is hiding.

If they can't prove the charges are actually paying tariffs this is fraud.

different posts and you youed me twice first

What me and any sane person is understand from this thread is that right wingers pretend to like small businesses while absolutely crushing them with the government and not understanding even basic economics.

sounds like an opportunity for other non-parasitic businesses to start thriving

How are they parasitic if people are willingly giving them their money? They offer a service that people want to spend money on. It sounds like your only reason for thinking it’s bad is because you personally don’t like it

and 70% of those are parasitic drop shitters that produce nothing

Except for American jobs and American tax revenue. We’ve been over this

no im pretty sure anyone can use ali-express and im pretty sure you being a parasitic middleman does not actually add any value to anything

So you want to shift money away from Americans directly to China. You’re doing a horrible job of defending your argument here

99.9% of our crap comes from china, so they make it simple by just adding 150% to the whole bill.

WEIMERIMUTT
SEETHING
MOMENT

worthless plastic crap you don't actually need is good for your children.

I think it's about time for a pogrom in this country.

iPhones are only marked up 30 to 40 percent

Source?

I see why leftists dipshits do this, so easy

Nurseries need them for plant stock, pots, equipment parts, etc. Anything in service or retail falls into a similar place. Thrift and resale places are about the only ones not reliant on direct imports, or goods made with imported precursors.

the CEO would just raise prices anyways, like what happened for decades for the Tariffs

i already do this. it's expensive sure, but there's still a lot of "made in the usa" stuff that has a "buy it for life" level of quality. same with high quality european products. there's still tools i've bought a decade ago that still work like i had just bought them. plus i like supporting small or medium sized businesses when i can.

Isnt that standard in murica?
Like you pick something for 10 and find at the register that its actually 12?

How are they parasitic if people are willingly giving them their money? They offer a service that people want to spend money on. It sounds like your only reason for thinking it’s bad is because you personally don’t like it

because people dont know any better theyre basically scammers

Except for American jobs and American tax revenue. We’ve been over this

no dropshitting is not a real job

So you want to shift money away from Americans directly to China. You’re doing a horrible job of defending your argument here

no you being a middleman that produces nothing of value is not a vital part of the american economy or tax budget

yes they are, every business has to pay more

Please care about the economic zone that hates you - tradcucks

It's just a reality that those "third world shitholes" produce cheaper goods, and so prices inevitably rise when you have to buy more expensive goods, if you want to complain about reality like a retard go ahead.

before

Not everything is about money. You dipshits can't seem to get this through your head. Why do you think there has been a huge prepping movement the last 10 years? People leaving the cities the last 10 years? Both of which were done by predominantly conservatives. We are about to show the rest of you retards how little money means to us at this point.

Good, only leftists businesses would lie like this (and admit they're importing slave labor chinese shit) so it'll upset the libs and make them do more illegal acts to fight Trumpler.

Nurseries need them for plant stock, pots, equipment parts, etc. Anything in service or retail falls into a similar place

sounds like they better start buying american then

How many jobs does some dropshitting persian in his mom's basement create for americans? How many liveable wage jobs do jew owned retail chains create?

because people dont know any better theyre basically scammers

They’re providing a service that people want in the free market. That isn’t a scam. It sounds like your solution is too eliminate those jobs and tax revenue and give it back directly to China based on your comment about Temu

no dropshitting is not a real job

Do you think all small businesses that are reliant on foreign imports are drop shippers?

no you being a middleman that produces nothing of value is not a vital part of the american economy or tax budget

Cool so just get rid of those jobs, put Americans out of work and give that revenue back to China. What a genius way of bringing jobs back to Americans

And they shift that onto the consumer

we need to tax the rich!

Tariffs are exactly the opposite. Its effectively a consumer tax, like value added tax or sales taxes. Just limited to imported products or domestic products containing imported components or materials. It is purely about taxing the poor, while Trump admin is planning cuts to various income taxes. Especially capital gains tax. What Trump is doing is giving massive tax cut to rich, middle class normies might see couple thousand saved in taxes annually and effective tax rate of poor shooting thru the roof.

Do you think every grocery you buy is from a foreign land? Lmao.

A lot of those have foreign inputs.

not sure that’s how it works

Idea that it applies only to luxury goods in naive as fuck.

Nigga like 6 companies own every business in the US. Whats gonna happen is all of them are going to pass on the tariff cost to their customers.

Do you think dropshipping is the only small business that’s going to be affected by tariffs? Are you actually retarded?

This is why retards have historically been denied the right to vote.

The problem is exponential purchasers and even corporate purchasers are starting to adopt Chinese tooling because it has largely caught up with the US in terms of quality. I have a chinesium air compressor that I bought as a spare last year. 10 years ago you couldn't get me in a room with one. Hell, 5 even. Now though? Featurewise the thing is totally on par with the American compressor. It's a little rougher around the edges in the implementation of these features, but in terms of actively operating it is the exact same. People will probably call me some kind of chicom shill. The truth is though that they have caught up factory tooling wise and have invested trillions into improving their low-mid range price exports. It shows.

So you have two compressors. They work largely the same, but the chink one is literally less than half of the price of the American one. For me, like yourself, I am willing to shell out a bit extra because it's a single purchase. For a corporate purchasing perspective? Chinesium every single time. The exponential savings are just too much to turn down for that kind of context.

You mean paying more and driving up the price? Or paying for things that aren’t produced in America? Yah. Let’s magically alter the climate to tropical alpine cloud forest.

what if you found out the top 15% of their salary was being spent on yachts and helicopters and butlers and empty mansion space you stupid fuckling idiot

why are you assuming every cent is going towards his business you fucking indian? take the memeflag off

president implements tariffs

speculative investors say the vibes are off

take the imaginary number and doomp eet

speculative investors left holding the bag/who just bought the dip demand that portfolio growth be exponential at all costs

companies raise prices to meet the expectations of the investors who own them

consumers continue buying products from these companies, then blame the guy at the top for everything

This can't be ..this CANT BE HAPPENNIIING

Learn the hard way

Is what you'll experience in a month when the price shock hit

SOMEBODY THINK OF THE MULTINATIONAL COPORATIONS

What goods will be tariffed that civilization can't survvie without?

make public companies illegal because public companies are literally obligated by law to line go up forever which is incredibly unstable
delete the stock market, because line go up gambling is retarded
make income tax exponential, encouraging people to create stable long-term business instead of short term cash grabs

I just fixed the world economy but for reasons that are obvious none of this would ever be implemented (its jews)

literally illegal.
you can raise your prices, but you can't tack on a fee afterwards called "tarrif fee".
that's false advertising.
businesses can't even charge you sales tax without a state tax certificate.
i hope all of these virtue signalling faggots get slapped with a class action.

You buy less shit and they go out of business because Walmart has massive operating costs which require a bare minimum? You do realize they don't get to keep the tariff money right?

Maybe US stores should highlight what country their products are being imported from?
Like world market.
And label the cost of the tariff and the tariff that country has on our goods.

Pretty much any nail salon relies on nail polish imported from China. Its affordable and theres no domestic US production of this stuff. Given that theres no major chains of nail salons, the majority of them are mom and pop shops that are going to get fucked when they have to pay 2x for their supplies.

that's exactly how tarrifs work

football is liberal now

They're opening themselves up for a class action lmao. Unless they have prove the amount is actually from tariffs it's fraud. Like that shitty legging company adding a random $5 to the bill.

It’s not about survival. I want to buy things at an affordable price and enjoy my life.

Amerimutts actually believed the supply chain would voluntarily lose money, go bankrupt, and die for their sake.

Many companies operate on razor-thin margins, more so the more competitive the market is. Tariffs increase the cost of production, so they'll have to increase prices or go out of business. More profitable companies could eat parts of the cost increase, and might do so to price out the competition that is on thinner margins, but eventually this will just accelerate monopolization and unmoor sales prices from cost of production.

Whatever the case is, prices will rise for both small businesses and megacorps, because many products are simply cheaper from abroad, many small local businesses will be destroyed because of this, and you will end up with even less stuff being locally produced by small businesses in your own country, even if they do use foreign goods, which many are forced to use.

Survive

Is this really the bar the 1st economy in the world has to pass? Still be a country in 2028?

VAT is entirely passed on to the costumer for example.
You are looking at it overly simplistic. You think profit is something the seller just pockets and that's it.
Company has to pay the wages, rents, taxes and all that shit. It's paid from their profit.
Lowering the profit will result in massive lay offs and closing some businesses for example.

1 cent per kw/hr to fund sex changes and gay sex in Botswana hooray

instead of finding cheaper ways to source our product, let's just make the customers pay extra

Holy fucking capitalism

time to start stealing more from stores I guess

This is what you voted for retards, now you can enjoy becoming Argentina

Unless you're rich you can't enjoy luxuries

its going to take 8-12 weeks before they actually affect prices

You think that's going to stop a greedy merchant?!

BUSINESSES LAYERING ANOTHER TAX ON TO A BILL WITHOUT STATE OR FEDERAL APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO LEGAL ACTION AT THE STATE FEDERAL AND COMMON LEVEL.

ADDING A TAX TO A RECEIPT CAN GET YOU IN DEEP SHIT. IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS ITS THE WORSE THING YOU CAN DO AND CAN LAND YOU IN TAX FRAUD WATERS.

Maybe thoes businesses should not have relied so heavily on imported items?

I wonder who is being paid by the ccp?
Nice of you to out yourselves.

Hey retard. Some of us already have more than enough money to ensure our kids are cared for. Why the fuck should we give a fuck about your kids just because you happen to exist on the same land? Piss off

businesses can't raise wages cause then they'd need to raise costs to keep up profits

businesses can't raise costs to keep up profits when tariffs happen because that's treason

huh

I want to buy things at an affordable price and enjoy my life.

Suck it up, MAGA
Short term pain, for long term pain.

I’m a contractor and a good portion of my materials come from China or have materials sourced from China.

Very specifically right now I’m having to find a budget friendly American sourced cabinet supplier because out of 10 suppliers that sell MDF budget cabinets around me they’re ALL Chinese and the only American suppliers are high quality wood cabinets.

“Good! Stop using cheap Chinese crap!”

Yes I agree, but people don’t want to *pay* for expensive American made stuff. My American cabinets are 4x the cost. As a business owner, I have to find the options people will buy. Hopefully this shit decimates the cheap fast fashion/consumption world and buying nice things (and less things) becomes the norm again, but until that shift happens, I just have a bunch of people demanding cheap shit and no way to supply it.

It's not "treason," it's "tax evasion."
Jew needs to jack up his prices, then charge, report, and pay the sales tax he owes.

Nah see there’s where you’re wrong, prices are carefully set based on customer expectations, if you raise prices you’ll reach a point where consumers simply give up. We have a great modern example of this

cal Maine owns basically all the egg farms on the east coast

bird flu hits

cal Maines research suggests eggs are such a vital product that consumers will pay any price

Cal Maine deliberately withholds product in order to drive up costs

they engage in price fixing with rose acre

they push for FUD marketing to keep prices high

egg prices on the wholesale market peak at $8.65

the entire system collapses because people simply stop buying eggs

egg prices magically drop to 3 dollars despite flocks not actually recovering

The entire bird flu egg price was fake, 100 percent artificial. In a healthy market the price would have gone up maybe 10%, but because the average consumer is retarded they thought the world was ending and went along with the price hike. Cal maine saw a 400% increase in profits. People also assume smart phones are essential and customers will pay anything for them, but we’ve basically hit the limit of what people are willing to pay, if they raise prices any more customers will simply refuse to buy.

Retarded MIGA ape thinks it only impacts multinational corporations

Expect your local mom and pop to shut down and be replaced with with another walmart who uses all cheap chinese crap anyway. Winning!

Uh huh. How assblasted are you right now that this is all affecting your ability to mine shitcoin?

Don’t EVER call me that word again

Go ahead an double the prices of all the shit toys you sell Walmart. Find out what happens.

Extremely common

actually, here's a really good question to ask these retailers and fuck up their day:
"are you charging sales tax on your tariff fee?"
LOL

Just steal bro!

Then prices will rise even more and your country collapses into Venezuala.

democrats will defend corporations fucking them in the ass to own Trump

I don’t mine shitcoin but if thinking that helps you cope go for it

Hmmm.... All memeflags

mfw even businesses unaffected by tariffs will still have prices increase

Still think china=cheap plastic toys

You guys are in for a ride

Guess what products are not effected by tariffs?

Its good for you goyim.

Costs can be magically ignored because... just find a cheaper way bro! (as if they're not already trying to find the cheapest way)

Holy retarded socialism.

arbitrarily raise prices

blame something trump did

know you can do it because like 60% of the establishment will have your back if you lie

know 60% of the population will also buy the lie wholesale

That's exactly how tariffs work. The increasing level of economic illiteracy here from Doom Paul to now is astounding

Everything from China is cheap garbage. Everything. If it's made in China is meant to break within 2 years.

I’m not even a Trump supporter but damned if I’m not willing to ride out a bit of pain in this for the clear long term gain - I just wish the chucklefuck would actually stick to his guns and collapse the whole fucking thing instead of pulling these pump and dump schemes

Hmmm... No arguments

Consoooomers BTFO

If you tell that to thw cashier, you won't have to pay ;)

Great news: you don’t need tariffs to buy stuff made in America

Ask me how I know you've never run a business, and maybe never even had a job. You're average Mexican sheetrocker understands better than you.

Wtf did you expect?

arbitrary

cost of goods gone up

huh

Great news tariffs make YOU not buy shit from China.

You're the one who can't come up for an argument as to why useless shit from china is necessary for the economy. There's only so much kikes can squeeze the consumer before they just stop giving you money. Then you close up shop and get replaced by christian owners and investors who actually act in an ethical manner. Win for all of us.

That's the thing, if you actually had capitalism those companies would go under because they'd get out-competed by others, but since you live in a oligopolical nightmare they won't.

Forget economics most nu/pol/tards can't even understand basic logic.

Because CEO productivity is exponentially outpacing worker productivity.

Pretty sure its the opposite. Workers leverage technology massively, CEO's don't really have that same capacity to (cerebral work has its limitations), CEOs on average also work significantly less than the CEOs of 30/40/50/60/100 years ago did.

How the hell has a shelve stacker increased productivity in the past 30 years?

Shelve stackers need to sort out self served checkouts as part of their roles. A single person in a factory has higher output than factory workers 60 years ago due to higher automation.

we are adding a different number than what you see per item on the shelves

sounds illegal but this is the US

Colombian coffee and west African chocolate aren’t Chinese.

This is America. The government shouldn’t be forcing on me what products I should be buying

Nigger, tariffs are paid by the importer, not the exporter.
The only way the price stays the same is if the importer eats the cost to his profit margin
Which he won't do lmao

So why are you calling it capitalism you completely retarded socialist idiot?

The chickens are demanding more compensation for laying eggs?

my options are buying imported things that are more expensive or buying made in america things that are more expensive because barely anything is 100% made in america AND there's no reason for american made goods to not increase in cost as well.

If they can force your speech, why can't they force you purchases?

Tariffs have existed since inception, so your premise is flawed. You're free to buy your 125% tariff Chinese goods.

You're the one who can't come up for an argument as to why useless shit from china is necessary for the economy.

I’ve given multiple reasons throughout this thread: it provides Americans jobs and it provides tax revenue from those businesses importing and selling those goods,

There's only so much kikes can squeeze the consumer before they just stop giving you money.

These businesses are still operating (for now) which means there’s a demand for the products they sell

idc, I want to see this shit country collapse at this point. we need a big reset in everything here

You don't live in America anymore you live in a corporate socialist dictatorship.

Just admit it then and say you want the country to be destroyed.

Company has to pay the wages, rents, taxes and all that shit. It's paid from their profit.

No, profit is the part that is left after all expenses are accounted for. Your overall point is correct, though, because tariffs, in constrast to corporate taxes, do increase the cost of production, so they directly raise the minimum price at which a product can be profitably sold. Tariffs are therefore liable to be directly passed on to the consumer, especially if profit margins are thin to begin with.

With corporate taxes, a company could in theory sell the product at the same price regardless of whether the tax is 0% or 100%, because what is taxed is profit, and tax on profit does not raise the cost of production.

Oh, there's an argument there.

Oh wow. You actually think someone claiming to be Christian won’t fleece you. Holy shit.

Why cant i buy directly from the manufacturer?

Because it's still capitalism, just not real capitalism.

Cheap chinese selling retail jobs are in no way providing jobs to americans in fact many of them are closing shop. Or are you one of those people who thinks burger flipping counts as job creation?

No, there's zero.

Chicken require food, logistics and infrastructure to be a profitable buisness
So yes, expect price hikes

If it's not real capitalism how is it capitalism? You're talking nonsense Finn.

It's less that and more that Chinese culture places a massive emphasis on shystering and shylocking as many facets of life and society as possible.

The same way communism is never real communism.

Cheap chinese selling retail jobs are in no way providing jobs to americans in fact many of them are closing shop.

Do you think these are the only jobs reliant on foreign imports? 70% of American small businesses are reliant on foreign imports. You’re arguing like we’re only tariffing China which isn’t the case

Or are you one of those people who thinks burger flipping counts as job creation?

If you’re getting paid it’s a job

you know what, that's actually a good point with bulk buyers, you're right

A large amount of western industry is built upon cheap material provided by china/others
Expect a lot of stuff to suddenly become unprofitable

It's amazing how colonial America and all subsequent society couldn't figure out animal husbandry, like countless groups before it, until the Chinese were turned into a manufacturing giant by Reagan and Thatcher. Maybe we should put their heads on Mount Rushmore instead.

You said in your previous post that the new tariffs make me buy US made goods. Which is it?

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So central banking and high taxation is capitalism?

No, profit is the part that is left after all expenses are accounted for.

I get that but in this context it's "the money company makes after it pays tariffs" so I just called it profit, idk what's the proper name for it

do you think I really care what you think? this isn't some gotcha game, I don't give a shit what you do but given your seething I think I got my way

The theory or practice of shielding a country's domestic industries from foreign competition by taxing imports.

That’s terrorism

If you don’t care why are you responding? Watch, you’ll (You) me again despite “not caring”

I think some industries should be shielded like those important to national security. You’re painting with too large a brush

Nothing ever happens

Show me a cordless drill made in the US. Or a shopvac. Lots of good stuff is US made, but some stuff just isn't made here because it would cost too much and no one would buy it.

I want to be an overpaid pig and whose richer than Bezos while my nation rots

Protectionists are the biggest whiners

tariffs shift prices toward equilibrium so charging consumers for tariffs are illegal and just false

They I just won't buy stuff because its too expensive retard

Exactly!

we will need a full disclosure of products they are importing at least so we know what not to buy otherwise I'm suing

So anything that arose from anything else is that thing, retarded.