The reason for low birth rates

its not rocket science, its just women education and rights, really simple. in the past women were basically forced to marry, have children, they were dependent. now, they obv have the choice to do what they want. urbanization is obv slowing down the birth rate but i think its mostly below replacement due to education+rights. this is also the reason why the west is fooked btw, we can't change it anymore, meaning immigration will continue and prob increase in the future

Tradcucks will seethe at this but it's the truth. Anyway Trump is in office again which means tradcucks think they've been validated again, so they will blame guys playing video games as usual.

vaxxed + covid induced mental illnesses

It you are "anti feminist" you are literally a tradcuck. I'm not kidding when I say the world is watching and you jesuits are proving yourselves to be dumber - yes, dumber - than niggers. People will help women prevent you from breeding. Take the jewish joke off your neck, or cut your cock off and go full tranny. Shit or get off the pot.

No tradcucks are pretty much feminists larping as traditionalists in a weird mixture. Not sure what jesuits have to do with this.

yes, democratically, we cant change shit anymore. the reason why "incentives" dont work is literally because they the root issue won't be solved. you cant vote ur way out of this, its basically over, not to be doomer

Looks like someone forgot to take his meds this morning

Those are koshervatives. "Trad" is anything insisting upon a man's authority even if the man in question is a disgusting wretched kikestain slave with no brain.

its just women education and rights

BIRTH CONTROL

no, north korea is below replacement as well and they banned birth control. gender equality

exactly, conservative tradcucks blame it on birth conrol, video games, literally on everything besides the root cause. thats also why it cant be solved, we cant adress it and we cant vote our way out of it. its basically over

youtube.com/watch?v=77-sMcQ1jKA

We have a couple things working against it.

1. Unfettered Hypergamy (aka eugenics). The Pro's are stronger offspring with more with more desirable attributes. The con's? low birth rates. There is just not enough of chad to go around.

2. Marriage laws. The quicker we sort out the legal & financial obligations imposed & enforceable by a third party (in this case the gov't, by force), we do not create an environment in which a regular male would be interested. If even that regular male can survive the hypergammy selection.

ye, but this eugenics talk is retarded cause the overall population will always decline, there will never be enough chads expanding and keeping the total population stable. most men are average normies

Rural Americans, Vikings and backwoods people have working wives that were expected to do a lot of shit and they pumped out babies.
The problem wasn't women working. It was women working jobs where you can't bring your baby. There's actually a lot of economically productive shit you can still do with one of those baby backpacks on.

again, it was women being dependent on men. education+rights ensured women independence, they were, for most of history, excluded from participating in society

work in the sense of having their own money, doing basically whatever they want. that is modernity, its just the way society is running now but again, the long term effects are evident

lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/north-korea-s-population-problem

North Korea’s failure to sustain the public distribution system for food after the collapse of the Soviet bloc and aid cuts from China in the 1990s led to a massive famine that was estimated to have killed between 2.5 and 3.5 million people out of a population of roughly 20 million. The fertility rate dropped below 2. The state cut population control policies in the 1990s to encourage childbirth, only the famine saw more women forced to work in the black market. Poor healthcare infrastructure with a high infant mortality rate during the 1990s reinforced the trend of a declining birth rate.

By the 2010s, North Korea’s fertility rate was estimated to stand at 1.38. In 2015, the government prohibited abortion and birth control procedures. Still, North Korea’s food shortage in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic was hardly conducive to raising families, which probably prompted Kim to speak publicly about the falling birth rate as a challenge to the country.

food shortage

the education of women is a very important aspect of the declining birthrates, I fundamentally believe that in permissive western societies the removal of birth control would lead to the reestablishment of families and promote marriage which simply isn't happening anymore and discourage the modern hedonistic culture we find ourselves immersed within. the NSDAP did it right, women can't be doctors, lawyers, any kind of high ranking professional and they get awards and public recognition for being mothers. I push birth control as the reason because it simultaneously enables women being whores with no consequence and also enables them to pursue education without the risk of becoming a mother.

not rocket science, its just women education and rights,

And you went to wrong way from the start, overcomplicating things.
It's contraception. Ban contraception and bitch rates would be fixed overnight (well o er 9 month).
It's the fact you can't refute.

koshervatives

Saved

Rural Americans, Vikings and backwoods people have working wives that were expected to do a lot of shit and they pumped out babies.

The problem wasn't women working. It was women working jobs where you can't bring your baby. There's actually a lot of economically productive shit you can still do with one of those baby backpacks on.

the Amish do this still. women are a very productive member of the household doing most of the chores on the property. feeding animals, doing yard work, picking crops, cooking, cleaning, laundry, sewing, running a store, etc. the man goes out and works and makes sure they have money and resources.

It's an interesting conundrum from a humanist perspective because it seems our entire species is dependent on subjugating and taking away the rights of 50% of it's population.

When ethics get in the way of existence.

i dont think the reason for north koreas 1.3 birth rate is food alone, makes no sense why the north korean gov tries to boost their birth rate. i think, despite obv food shortage, its prob just the north koraen women now being more educated compared to the past, they are basically "modern", and equality is part of north korea, due to communist, western values replacing confucianism.(like china).

very important

its the most important aspect, never in western history, did women participate to such an huge extent in society. i dont say it as a misogynist, its just how societies in the west worked in the past

north korea banned contraception, birth rates still going down

and taking away the rights of 50% of it's population.

Not enough.
Everybody tax negative shouldn't have right to vote and be elected.

ye, but this eugenics talk is retarded cause the overall population will always decline,

Oh I agree bud. But women ( majority ) refuse to carry a baby of a man they perceive as "less than". For thousands of years males shaped the sexual outcome. We are now seeing hypergamy replace the male selection. I saw this coming 30 years ago

read the fucking article, the birth rate went from 1.3 to 1.79, that's a 37% increase since the outlawing of birth control

No it’s the universe telling whitey your time is up. Cumskins go bye bye

yes, and these rights are really only able to be granted thanks to birth control. this is the singular problem. they only have choice because they now have control over their reproduction.

ironically enough, single motherhood only went up AFTER birth control was legalized. this shows the poor fucking choices women make in men.

what we should be doing is becoming divorce lawyers and becoming fluent in Arabic.

again, my point is not the fluctuation of birth rates, i already mentioned urbanization as reason for declining rates, contraception is a part of it as well but not the reason why its below 2.1

falling*

Global IQ has been dropping globally since women have a choice

No, correlation is not causation in this case - Society is designed to reward narcissism and stupidity, its a feature, not a bug. Guess who it's meant to oppress? Guess who benefits? I don't see white women in charge of anything, anywhere?

again, its about dependency, women in the past were not allowed to participate in society. again, not a misogynist view, just an objective observation. meaning women did "work" but always for their female, community and so on. this has nothing to do with women working now, earning their own wages, having their own homes and so on

destroy economy in 1998 and again in 2008

put all your money into propping up western pension systems

make it incredibly hard to get hired to entry level middle class jobs while accelerating the outsourcing of factory jobs

tell all the women taht being a mentally ill feminist tranny is based

tell the men to never date unless they're rich, meaning only well off guys and drug dealers who don't care about rules will get 2 fuck

now the millennial chicks are all in their 30s/40s and have no kids

start putting out actual insane propaganda how it's okay for 60yo dudes to smash 20yos but bad for 30yos to fuck 25yos, zoomers are pussies so instead you get hilarious news stories about 18yos fighting 19yos for dating other 18yos

"wtf, why do these millennial guys not settle down, we need to call them back!"

husband, community* mb

I can't imagine a world more horrifying than one where mothers can't read books. There are female doctors and nutrition scientists that made it their life's work to teach women about their fertility and health that would have never come to light if the Jesuits were in charge. They want everyone to be weak fat and stupid, like the copecel users on this board

Is something humans both male and female deserve no?

It's extremely loaded question. Because behind it stands armed government thugs who take things from peoples (when on government does it called robbery) and give to people who they think deserve these things.

its just women education and rights

Yes it is.

I might actually get a good job working at a bank after years of being ghosted so I'm fully expecting, if so, in 1-2 years people will start to ask dumb questions like "oh anon you got a good job making 40 bucks an hour as a credit analyst, why don't you settle down". Like lol, lmao. Why would I want to settle with a 30yo roastie after years of being ghosted by the entirety of society? People really think men exist to be cucked, and put up with it. I wish I was more of a retard because I totally would have put 20,000 dollars into dogecoin in 2020 if I was and be a millionaire now.

I think the feminization of men

it's the replacement of the man as the head of household and protector of the family with the government. a woman does not ask her husband for advice/permission/protection, she asks a lawyer or the police or the "justice" system. our society is completely messed up in many ways.

you could also blame culture and social media, how many women are unemployed and traveling with their wealthy boyfriends and refusing to have children so they can play summer vacation until they are 30? without birth control they can't do this. there are a bunch of different factors here, and I would also point out that women screaming about their rights are almost always screaming about their access to birth control, of which abortion is a form.

So then the problem isn't freedom of information. Its government gatekeeping and rewarding imbeciles for their compliance. But everyone KNOWS that.

You're completely off.
It's clear that women get a net benefit from the taxes that the state confiscates from men and from the legal asymmetry that the state creates to favour women over men in many things.
More and more women hate men and the idea of having kids.
Women have become a parasite class that it's collaborating with the elites

yet, we have a group of Anon Babblecucks that give money to a kikess for saying the nigger word to a nigger

simps are the worst fucking thing that happened to human civilization, they used to be culled

s the replacement of the man as the head of household and protector of the family with the government.

Well if government wants to play husbands role they should go ully ahead, without skipping some things. Like impregnation of women.

IT'S WOMEN, GOY!
IT'S THE BOOMERS!
GOY, LISTEN. WHAT ABOUT THEM
MUSLIMS?
PAY ATTENTION TO BLACKS, GOY!

Lets be real though, the freedom to choose to get an education, to make your own way in the world etc. Is something humans both male and female deserve no?

If women being education means the extinction of the species, should the be allowed to pursue education?

Dont get mad at me, I am just saying the quite part out loud. When a women says no to you, she is actually saying "I do not want your failed DNA to mix with mine". For thousans of years she had no choice in sex outcome...but now, she is in charge of sex. Theres nothing anyone can do about it. For most of you she says NO. ergo, low birth rate.

the government wants its native population dead, haven't you been paying attention?

More and more women hate men and the idea of having kids.

Not once have you explored the reason for this because you automatically dismiss the opinions of anyone outside of your cult. Its the cult. Its your fucking cult and your stockholm syndrome that is the problem. Leave it or troo out. Shit or get off the pot.

Its relative to the person, its what she perceives. The more attractive the women, the higher her standards. Its all relative my friend

"I do not want your failed DNA to mix with mine"

Yes if you decided your porno jew cult was the hill to die on you are still dead on that hill. A dead man can't be a father or a god

cool, so for a functioning civilization with division of labor, which requires men to participate and build the society, which requires men to have a motivation to participate, which historically has been achieved by the man needing to provide for his family, and for that society to continue existing via the creation of children so they do not go extinct, women can not have rights.

thank you

i dont get ur point here? my point isn't to tell what women should do or how society should be run, i'am only pointing out that allowing women to participate in society will have long-term irreversible consequences, its basically over

Yes. The reason is that they've been educated to see themselves as victims despite enjoying multiple legal and social privileges over men.
They've been raised in an environment in which the responsibility for anything negative in their lives is blamed on men and they're spared of any kind of responsibility.
This is why the hate the idea of having kids so fucking much, because for the first time in their lives they will be hold responsible

is actually saying "I do not want your failed DNA to mix with mine".

Define "failed DNA"
If women employed modern dating strategies in the past, choosing sociopathic don Juan Chads who have zero desire to settle with women then women would die pregnant form hunger in the fields after Chad kicks them out. Today women actually choose failed DNA, but women get bailed out from there wrong choices by a government.

Everyone is a victim of your cult. You are marked slaves, do slaves own slaves?

How can you sit on gibs and write that shit is beyond anyone. You are a worse parasite to your country than a neet family of turks because you COULD but rather sit here and make utter shit threads. Retarded kraut do-nothing incel: the thread

what does my post have to do with incels?

These are the questions the great artists of the day should be asking. There should be films made about this premise rather than the 1000th marvel movie with the central theme being "friendship is good".

What happened to art that actually asked deep and pointy questions?

What happened to art that actually asked deep and pointy questions?

as usual, jews.

Quick google and they legalized aborting at that exact time and other birth control methods

entering the workforce

the reason for low birth rates

The world needs fewer people. Also, the world needs higher quality people. Dysgenic fertility is a real problem.

It's a perfect storm of things:

People don't reproduce when they expect conditions to worsen

People don't reproduce if they don't have a measurable social or monetary incentive for it

People don't even marry if they don't have a power imbalance to make the union beneficial to both parties

And finally,

People don't reproduce nearly as much if they can easily delay or postpone the process through artificial means

Universal suffrage voating is retarded.

You're an idiot. The world needs to maintain its population just for institutions to keep persisting. Already it looks impossible for millennials to have pensions in most western countries. GenXers pensions rely on migrants being willing to labor for them

Indcels back at it again. Return to india other races dont want you.

you are prob a woman i would assume. again, it has nothing to do with inceldom, its just an observation

Nigger migrants will not save your pension and the institutions are shit. I do not want them to persist. Let them burn.

save corrupt retarded institutions and literaly unsustainable ponzie scheme

You are mentally retarded if you belive milenials will ever have a pension even with mass migration.
Is right low quality workets arent needed anymore. And in future will be needed even less.

the issue with low birth rate is not the increase of the population, its the ageing of the society. its not about low quality workers, there is no reason why the birth rate decline will stop, its just declining until the west has a median age of like 60 and will be replaced by foreign populations with a healthy society

Ever since the 50s, when TV came out, people began to follow vapid childless retards with too much free time. That massive explosion of useless babble was the gigantic flushing sound dumping birthrates into the shitter.

women education and rights

These are effects, not causes.

The causes are: women feel unsafe/insecure. And generally speaking, there are few men able or willing to ease these concerns.

It doesnt go like that. Low birth rate is average birth rate. So one woman has 4 kids the 2 have 1, 1 has 0 . Total birth rate = 6 / 4 = 1.5
Women from big families on average have more kids. So instead of 25% of women having 4 kids in one generation it becomes 66% etc.
Look up kaiserbauch he made a video on it.

There will always be some poeple that have more kids gor varios reasons. And while population may contract one generation it will restore back in one or 2 generations.

Important things is to not allow shitskins in. European will never be able to have 10 kids fed on rice and spices while living in a pile of shit like indians do. We just didnt evolve for it. Big families needed landand a normal house.

there will always be some

yes?`i'am talking about the general population. looking at south korea its basically irreversable extinction scenario. will there be south koreans left with kids, obv? but the society is basically fucked, its full of old people now, while a few young remain, being forced to work longer, pay more taxes, will the amount of immigrants will continue to increase, meaning society will long term be replaced

while the amount*

i mean, while africas birth rates decline their median age is like 19.3 years, while europe is at 42.8

Somebody has to breed the next generation of goyim nigger cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.

you basically have billions of africans with a median age of 20 and a declining, old european population, its basically over

Or maybe because there's overpopulation and nature is fixing the problem?
You telling me East Asia, South Asia and Western Europe are supposed to have fertility rate of above 2.1? This regions need less people.

Actually no. Korea is not a welfare state. When you are old in Korea you work pension is low to non existent. You see bunch of old poeple working whole day barely making ends meet.
And they are happy. Not every nation on the planet is filled with me me me western boomers and organized in a ponzie. Despite their low birth rate they are in way better position to handle it than lets say Germany.
Also you are not aware the population density they have. Their country is smaller than Croatia and most of it is mountains and they have 50 mil poeple. The housing shortage is practically inevitable. Not to say the culture isn't the problem too but they wont disappear.

Even rats stop breeding when you pavk them close enough.

what should happen isnt the point, i was only talking about long-term implications. does density influence birth rates? prob, but it doesnt explain why bangladesh has 171million people and a birth rate 1,9. korea will be fucked and it has nothing to do with the birth rate, the economy is ponzi, not just the welfare state. the economy requires consumption and a stable workforce, a decline of the population and an increase of the median age will mean less innovation, less investments into the future, stagnation, more recources into elderly care(because their voting block will increase) and so on

meaning immigration will increase, affecting the youngest generation the most, meaning future generations will be minority. you can see this in germany: the old population is more ethnic-german, the younger, the more brownoids. thats basically what will happen to all western countries

it has nothing to do with them not being a welfare state, the economic system is a ponzi* mb

Historically wrong, you make some sociological arguments based on societies that never truly existed. In many pre-Christian societies there were either pagan ethics with the end result being a degree of monogamy or if there was polygamy it was concentrated at the level of .001%, where the average person did reproduce, it's just infant mortality was such that his children may not all live. Also to pretend women's choices are eugenic is to ignore that they don't select for intelligence—laughable at best.

bangladesh has 171million people and a birth rate 1,9.

Yea but roman slaves lived better than modern Bangladeshis.
Westerners never had to live that bad. If they did war would break out and more land would be left.We are not built for it. And Bangladeshis had 10 kids before not 2 so it acts on them.

the economy requires consumption and a stable workforce, a decline of the population and an increase of the median age will mean less innovation, less investments into the future, stagnation, more recources into elderly care(because their voting block will increase) and so on

Most jobs are bulshit. We reached the point where most jobs are fake. Old poeple voting for imigrants will happen in Germany not in korea.
Also bunch of jeets and arabs certainty wont fuel inovation.
More inovation would haopen im local population inherited more land and resources due to less poeple.Japan is going towards robotization of care.
Only the west will bring in jeets and arabs because its ran by jews and old money that want to destroy it.

Also what is your point the economy is structured in a bad way and it needs to be changed not adapted to the retarded way things are now. Modify thr system not poeple.

And it's a jewish women who wrote all of this.
The post war japanese constitution was written by a jewish women...

Also to pretend women's choices are eugenic is to ignore that they don't select for intelligence—laughable at best.

They do most of the time. Looks is tied to intelligence. As far as I know women like intelligence.
Also for most of history being strong was more important than inteligence.

Eventually women will be raped, or possibly artificial wombs will be achieved en masse.

All of this because you guys can't get laid. LMAO

This eventuality must be made clear to bio front-holes

ROAST PROTOCOL

i mean, ur poast is what iam talking about, you cant adress such topics without accusations. its over already

Those were times of lower population and more agrarian lifestyles. Children are a big asset in those days. You make a lot more money/produce a lot more the more you have. Not so in the industrial age. Children are an expensive luxury at best and more often a dreadful burden. Then add women's privileges in hiring, housing and divorce plus easy birth control and abortion and you have many reasons for low to zero births. The Boomers will have to pass away before an honest conversation can be had on the subject.

It's jews destroying the education system. Women used to be educated and also remained traditionally conservative. That changed around the 60s and 70s. What happened in the 60s and 70s? Hippie shit etc pushed by jews.

No one's going to acknowledge this? Aight.

The topic is fine, but your demoralized attitude is pathetic.

People who complain about women are always trying to shift the blame away from anyone but themselves.

He sounds like a simp on your side. Industrial society makes many humans a strain on resources instead of producers of resources. That's problem one. Nobody outside primitive farmers can find enough work for a huge family. Second is women are now the privileged class whose faults and failures are considered the fault of white men. We all had many a lesson from grade school onward about the root evil that is white men. Third you have birth control and abortion on demand since the 1960's. You know, to take care of all those accidents. The wild card in the deck is the elite are running out of white men to secure overseas resources and trade routes. That might mean little to Stacy Fuckstheworld but the people who issue currency based on how many citizens are in a country are getting very nervous. The currency issuers are also the same people who gave women so many privileges. If you can't fathom how that relates you are a simp or a Feminist. Take a long hard look at the history of central banking if you want the scoop. The currency issuers decide what social issues get funding or not.

Women have had shit poured in their ears and now here we are.

There is a dearth of masculinity in the world today. I think it turns out that masculinity isn't so natural or common, but it is learned and passed down, and this process (both of learning and teaching) was broken down over several generations.

Shut the fuck up cunt
MEN ARE PERFECT
WOMEN DESERVE LESS

Birth control wasn't a thing until around that time.

Musk and the tech bros think robots will save us.

they said the same with flying cars in the 1960s

Fragile masculinity lol

They can all go to Germany. Swimming across the Atlantic is a no go.

I'll believe it when i see it. I've yet to see a robot replace an outlet or unclog a toilet.

its not rocket science, its just women education and rights, really simple. in the past women were basically forced to marry, have children

No, it’s the economy. Japan started seeing the same thing after the oil crises in the 70s (before the bubble pop in the 80s). And japan is a very patriarchal society - women go to university and get jobs to try to land a husband. After the oil shock in the 70s a lot of Japanese held off on having kids until things were looking more stable economically. And then things fell off after the bubble. In the west assets have become expensive, it’s hard to start a family under those conditions. And no one is going to do anything to change that because it would hurt the people holding said assets.

this is also the reason why the west is fooked

I have a chinese friend that always tells me it's the same over there

its not rocket science, its just women education and rights, really simple.

education and career tracks push women into their 30's before they think about family then they find its too late and they cant conceive, we need to implement massive eugenics breeding camp programs to preserve the white race

Japan banned the pill until 2000.
In USA more Asian women cohabitate with white men than with Asian men.
The answer explaining all phenomena is the blackpill.
Asian men get less pussy from their own women than white men despite having higher incomes/lower criminality or addiction etc than white men.
Because they are MOGGED physically by white men, in height and facial dimorphism.
Same reason 90% of white men don't get pussy.
That's why birth rates are down regardless of a country's culture or average income.
Women never wanted/want to fuck non-Chads.
They were only forced to in order to eat.

Everything stated itt is sheer cope (even "education" is merely a proxy for income that buys them the freedom to not fuck non-Chads)

Literally handcrafted by God himself for BBC.

Let's go whack them

Bingo.

Don't expect the technokikes to help, either. They immigrated here to exploit, exploit, exploit. Only the furnace can save us from them now.

the reason is that religion in white countries hasn't been updated for hundreds of years and doesn't accomodate women, so they turn to secular religions like psychology, psychiatry and statism, and various other corporate cattle cults

define masculinity
it's a buzzword
nobody wants your used vagina, deal with it, lower your standards

Not education, indoctrination
And they aren't rights if they make poor use of them

or, alternatively, it's the consequences of kikes fucking with our ability to reproduce via every method that their demented, pedophilic minds could conjure

Unfettered Hypergamy (aka eugenics). The Pro's are stronger offspring with more with more desirable attributes

Do not speak about things you have absolutely no understanding of. Unfettered hypergamy leads to hyper-aggressive males with specific, exaggerated features. This has been observed many, many times in human society and even in the animal kingdom.

But it's also not even particularly relevant because women aren't even reproducing with their mates anymore.

atavisionary.com/how-to-solve-the-fertility-crisis/