You CAAAAAANT manufacture stuff in America

Get in the fucking cotton gin, Jayden.

Two more weeks

Dude Trump tried this the first time around. Companies will promise to build factories in America and then when he's not president they'll just cancel their plans.

we can't raise minimum wage because mcdonalds will accelerate their automation process

but also we need tariffs to bring back jobs that totally won't be automated

protecting a few thousand jobs at the cost of increased cost to consumers is a good thing, actually

ignore the thousands of manufacturing positions available right now that people don't want

nobody is going to pay more to do what they can accomplish more cheaply elsewhere, government penalties won't change that
and even if they did, unemployment isn't high enough to actually staff those factories, so the government would just turn around and bring in more spics/jeets to (not) work
the government's great economic crime wasn't outsourcing, it was debasing the currency, and miggers are too stupid to understand or do anything about it

Basically. Factories take years to build and even more time to properly set the supply chains. Specially more the chip related factories that take years just clean themThey will likely promise shit and then they won't build anything. it's not like they wouldn't be taxes into hell anyways because if the tangerine retard actually manages to get the factories back, then how the fuck is he going to profit from from the tariffs and keep the taxes at 0
You can't have both.

be american

have comfy do nothing job that pays 100k a year to develop tinder for pets or some shit

get cheap shit from all over the world for pennies

vote to go back to a factory and pay more for everything

kekaroo

Several companies already announced they will move back to the USA. Liberals are just going to have to accept the fact they're wrong again.

have comfy do nothing job that pays 100k a year to develop tinder for pets or some shit

Imagine unironically thinking there are many jobs like that at all, then imagine thinking those with jobs like that were the people who voted from Trump

Americans won't get manufacturing back until they live in poverty again. Westerners have been too comfortable for too long.

see this picture from 2018?

never happened

never going to happen again

don't even try to fix the country

lol

If that's what it takes then that's what it takes. This isn't real prosperity anymore. Everyone is wising up to the games being played with our lives, money and our votes.

don't believe your lying eyes, living like a chink in a cage is a good thing!

manufacturing jobs are never coming back

2 minutes later...

you will work in a factory for the rest of your life

I'm just not gonna pay attention to these jewish articles anymore. Simple as.

Cody and Russell won't work in a sweatshop.

why is it impossible? make tons of factories that are automated for most part and humans in supervisory roles. that's how you create abundance, moron

Except when we do, and when we do, it's a lot of stuff. The US outproduces every other country in the world but China, with only 8% of the population involved in manufacturing. The jobs aren't going back to 1960 levels though.
Yeah, bringing any particular strategic industry back to the US involves bringing the whole supply chain back, which is a chicken and egg problem. I know it's hard to imagine though but somehow we produce chips in the US and even build new chip fabs though.
Basically this.

I wish.

somehow we produce chips in the US

what is cost effectiveness

fixing literally anything is literally impossible bro we just cant do a single thing at all to improve your livelihood whatsoever you just need to give up entirely and accept your country rotting away

Jobs are shitty and pay about as much as McDonalds so you won't

So who is working those jobs then?

Whenever something happens that the left believes is in their favor, they assume it's set in stone and they've won forever. This is why they were so shocked we got Trump after king nigger. They thought they won forever in 2008, got lazy and complacent, and devolved into low IQ cult-like rabble rousing .

republicans destroyed the unions and regulations that made those jobs worth working.

Lololololol. Fuck off back to plebbit, queer

We have manufacturing already you chink faggot.

The USAs semiconductor fabs are mostly ancient relics of a bygone era.
There are a few modern ones though but they suffer from a number of issues. Mainly cost effectiveness, difficulty sourcing personnel (they have to train them essentially) and of course most of those modern ones being run by Intel and they have a serious issue finding customers

He's not wrong.
Unions have a long history of opposing offshoring and mass migration.
Californian worker unions used to go out to the border and kill people crossing illegally.

Good thing those chicken-scratch writing slant-eye chinks are finally putting up signs in English.

China is healing. They had too much state funded manufacturing misallocating capital. The next step is Chinese military go ensure extraction industries and to counter cia glowies

Already happened with chip production in the US. Even with massive subsidies they failed.

That's what unions are for.

Americans won't get manufacturing back until they live in poverty again

There are already Americans living in poverty who want to work in factories. That's the point people are trying to drive into the coastal liberal journalist class's thick skulls.

Minimum wage simply does not work, it has nothing to do with automation. The government should not set wages. The people that demand minimum wage are cattle that never stop to consider why they need such a thing in the first place.
Yes, protecting manufacturing is worth an increased cost to the consumer. You obviously have no concept of how wealth was created during the industrial revolution. The nation that creates the finished products, has all of the growth from the industry.

It's okay, they can still tax China 60000%

Winning.

It's truly incredible how fucking retarded this country really is. Hard to feel any sympathy, isn't it?

Same argument was made over 100 years ago during the Industrial Revolution.

deporting people is just impossible

foreigner says Israel should stop committing genocide

would you look at that, there's some how a way to deport these people

So maybe the US should just start renaming cities to those in Israel and putting them in funding bills. And watch how they pass.

And it resulted in tons of people living a wretched life in a clustered factory town that exploited them.

Aside from that, concerning new jobs being created; probably not, and probably not at a sufficient scale. Human labor will eventually become the biggest lag in an automated system. That hasn't ever been the case in history. Many jobs exist now entirely due to inertia and precedence, not because a machine can't do it. That's a productivity loss. I suppose money laundering can prop things up for a while.

my favorite part is they forget

prevailing wages

Healthcare benefits

safety protocols

and equate a modern western factory to an 1800 sweatshop.

The government should not set wages.

I didn't say otherwise

Yes, protecting manufacturing is worth an increased cost to the consumer.

No, protecting a few thousand jobs is not worth higher costs nor is it feasible, nor will it ever happen.

Journo cuck thinks the US doesn't manufacture anything.

This is the humanoid retard pushing this narrative. The Piano Wire Festival can't come soon enough for these retards.

Yes, those type of manufacturing jobs are gone.
In Eastern Washington there are several boot makers. 4 that I know of: Nicks, Whites, JK and Franks. Custom made boots. Each employs a hundred or so workers. These people could make their own shoe company somewhere else. The same probably applies to various industries. These small to medium sized businesses could replicate all over in other niches. It wouldn't necessarily employ millions, but it could get us buying American again. All the jobs don't need to come from Apple.

good thing the majority think youre a retard along with all of your ideas.

As he said; the same kind of people that would otherwise work at your mcdonalds.

What exactly is keep the auto industry and ports from being fully automated?

Theres no source on this clickbait "news" thread

Oh except the jobs are shitty and pay about as much as mcdonalds so you won't.

McDonald's pays $20/hour.
Surprisingly, their prices haven't spiked and they haven't shutdown.

TCD

We have had 25+ years of telling school kids going to college is the only way to earn a living wage.

My early zoomer nephew is making loads of money as a certified auto mechanic at a dealership but his parents still bribed him to take college classes.

This conversation always interested me because on one hand, this happened because of market forces (With government over reach let's be honest here) that more or less said that foreign manufacturing is just "better" (read: Highest profit v cost ratio) but on the other hand, it is stupid to not recognize that relying on foreign manufacturing is retarded in times of dire circumstances. It has lead us to the point where we have a population that needs jobs to stimulate the economy and thus the creation of bullshit office jobs that do not actually provide any real value to society at large, which in turn lead to the inflation of qualifications needed for white collar work. How this could actually be fixed I have no idea (Outside some obvious ones like incentives to build locally and tell people that being stuck in an office isn't their only path in life), but something needs to be done because the service industry that western countries have cannot survive if all the actual value is created overseas.

taiwan flag emoji

aislop fantasy pic

lol

The problem with America isn't the cost of labor. The productivity isn't that bad relative to the cost, especially with automation and mechanization. The problem is the EPA, equivalent state environmental regulatory agencies, and courts.

Building could take several ADDITIONAL years to build in the US because of regulations, especially environmental regulations and procedures, like impact surveys. Not to mention all the bullshit lawsuits used by leftist organizations to put injunctions on projects while their bullshit suits crawl through court. If Trump wants to bring anything back, he needs to abolish all of these immediately, or at least limit their procedural bullshit to 2-4 weeks before falling through (so building can proceed). I've seen fucking commercial buildings take 3-5 years to complete, with the business owners selling (at a loss) while waiting for regulatory approval. There were tons of steel mill projects that got cancelled while waiting for environmental surveys. IIRC US Steel cancelled a mill construction project after waiting 5 years for surveys, with more years projected to proceed. So they just said they're going to look in a different direction and cancelled new mills and modernization projects and shortly after started looking to sell.

Trump needs to stop being a retarded, out of touch boomer and fix the real problems. But he probably won't because he's getting paid by jeets to sell america out to that shithole. Guess we'll see what he does. So far his anti-regulatory talk has just been bluster. Nothing short of decimating these bullshit agencies will bring manufacturing back. Losing time is infinitely expensive. Paying an extra $1 in labor per item produced is nothing.

I do wonder as someone who has worked alongside consultancy in Australia why these projects take so long. I can tell you from my experience that they usually get all of the data they need within the first month and I've usually processed it during the next month. Why it takes an additional minimum 6 months after that I have no clue.

It'll be just like the 90s. Except once people get into the factories they'll realize that the toy aisle at Walmart is mostly shit for emotionally stunted millennials nowadays instead of children.

I don't care about Australian red deserts

jobs are never coming back

Why should we import labor then?

Oh except the jobs are shitty and pay about as much as mcdonalds so you won't.

Yet people work in McDonalds?

You can. 100%. The issue is corporate greed. Nike makes sneakers for less than a dollar and sells them for $200. They could make those sneakers for $10 each and employ Americans and still make money hand over first but it's never enough. Clothing manufacturing can easily come back here due to the insane markups

people don't want

where? Where are these jobs?

some might come back, but it won't involve many humans
state-of-the-art factories are staffed with picrel now (really)
they're human-size, tho they look tiny lol

Nice AI photo. This Kyle bass faggot is a Jew

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This isn't going to happen because Trump is going to cancel the tarrifs. Prices won't come down much though, because the entire world is sick and tired of retard American Republicans with 5th grade reading levels thinking they know how the global economy works. These new, upcoming trade deals are going to fuck us permanently and any trade we arrogantly gave away isn't coming back.

Legal review is the glut of time in any of these government things. Anything technical is usually semi-quick, on the order of a few months. Legal review will eat at LEAST half a year, spiraling into many years. And this is the regulatory bloat that () is talking about. It's thousands upon thousands of lines of esoteric bullshit codified into these laws, and lawyers have to comb through ALL OF IT to make sure shit is kosher to build.

It's a side effect of "progressivism" - literal miles of regulatory checklists that need processing. Which, by the way - will be handled by a high paid Jew or DEI hire who crawls at their job.

Which of course never meets whatever objective the politician cunt who wrote it intended, be it protecting some marsh or some shit, or saving the endangered dick wiggler in some state.

Also this regulatory bullshit gets lobbied for so monopolies can stay in power. Keeps noobs out of the market because costs to start the company are astronomical because of all the bullshit hoops the existing companies already jumped through.

Lol, so shareholders are just going to accept a 1000% margin decrease because "hur dur, murica is best?" That's not how the world works.

unions.

We've always had factories. The nerve of these faggots to act like people don't want to work in them when the ones we do have are constantly being shut down and moved overseas.

you are just wrong on this; go by semiwiki and lurk the forum. TSMC has and is building a mess of fab space in AZ. Their fabs in AZ are just as good in yield as the ones in Taiwan - by their own internal metrics.

Unions have a long history of opposing offshoring and mass migration.

they stopped doing that circa 1998 and almost every labor union endorsed it.

Unironically ex cons, green cards from SEA and drug addicts

you almost never close down a fab. Once the equipment is paid for, if you can run any chip at all its just printing money. There is huge demand for old nodes - things like analog op-amps, drivers, microcontrollers etc. don't need anything close to nm features.

Trump is against minimum wage and workers rights.

Yes, people don't want to work in them because factory jobs suck. Turnover rate in factories is very high and pay is low.

Cletus.

white trash rednecks keep crying

Kill Jews like you then

then i am sure you can post a screen shot of his official position concerning this topic. no, your teacher's union propaganda pamphlet does NOT count.

Learn to code.

Just highly automate the factories like China does. Chinese robots cost the same as American robots doing the jobs.
But yea the " jobs " are probably never coming back. We don't need jobs we need machines and a living wage.

Japan, Germany, south Korea, Italy, Switzerland, France, and spain all have large manufacturing sectors ranging from luxury handbags, to watches, to cars.

Now why the fuck would americans work shitty production line jobs when they can get work in an office or even work from home?

Because those office jobs are funded by buying an eyeliner set from China for $0.06 and reselling it on a shopify site for $89.45 + Shipping

I’m not sure if Americans really want them to come back, and in reality there will be revolts if they try to depress wages enough to do it