Real ID

Why are the Democrats pushing this so hard? What happens if I refuse to get one?

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It's been delayed since 2005, zoomie.

What happens

Can't use it as ID for air travel. Next time you renew your license, real ID will be your only choice anyway.

This was a Repub bill from 2005, House was majority Repub.

because theyre faggots who worship bureaucracy and want to waste your time with yet another trip to the dmv

Real ID is a thing because there's several states that have been giving drivers licenses to illegals.
It's a bit of a hack solution as it requires citizenship to get and it links into several databases to prevent those same states from just handing real IDs to illegals like they did drivers licenses.
Frankly, the best solution is to just declare it an act of treason and hang the fuckers who insist on passing laws that allow illegals to get anything but that's not going to happen unfortunately.

Illinois

I live here and I haven't renewed my license in 15 years.
This state is quite literally lawless outside of Chicago and the occasional speeding ticket from a state cop.

Real ID is a thing because there's several states that have been giving drivers licenses to illegals.

That's the scapegoat reason.

democrats

it's a bush era thing

Every ID I've ever had was a real ID. What states haven't been giving these out for the past 20 years???

blue states have been dragging their feet on it so they can hand out licenses to illegals

Gold star for good goyim slaves

Jews be like

Well you actually approved a star on your license and the 5 points is 10 sides plus a pentagram which is satanic.

Sooo I kidnapped your kid and raped them. Sorry, it's your fault sweaty!

(You)

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They should've just went all the way and introduced a federal ID for everyone that is a US citizen, which is a concept that Anglos really hate for some reason.. (the gov will always find ways to track you no matter what, or sometimes fails to keep up because they're not very smart)
The passport card is kind of like that, but it would mitigate more of the problem and render state ID/DLs as a secondary form of ID, since you don't have to even be a citizen to acquire one at times.
Real ID doesn't always stop those things from happening, and it's not considered to be proof of citizenship on the federal level unlike a birth certificate or passport. (and at times, an SSN card)
It would be nice to have a mandatory secure document that covers all the requirements that those things mentioned above are intended to do, because a lot of people struggle with missing or destroyed ID documents that make it a hassle to proof their identity and citizenship despite being born on US soil and living nowhere else besides the US.

My plan is to get a passport, give up state citizenship, and identify only as a federal citizen
Then I won't have to comply with driver's license, insurance, and vehicle tax laws.
I'll still own properties in several states but because I'm not a permanent resident I won't have to with their bullshit laws.

I expect to save over $1,000,000 over the next 50 years from not paying car insurance alone on a fleet of cars, RVs, and boats

Yeah that's not how that works anon.

That is how it works
States can't force their bullshit on nonresidents

Just put your own gold star on your old ID and save yourself $80 and a trip to deal with moronic government employees face to face.

Democrats:

YOU SHOULD HAVE A DIGITAL ID THAT TRACKS WHATEVER YOU DO AND SAY ONLINE!

Also Democrats:

REQUIRING AN ID TO VOTE IS RACIST

I don't get it.

It could be used as ID if we had federal ID for elections to make sure only citizens vote

It's about controlling dissenters and punishing them and cheating in elections. Those 2 are not mutually exclusive

Democrats pushing this

Are they?

it really makes no difference

it's annoying and I'm as pro-privacy and anti-vax as it gets but this isn't something to get bent out of shape for, it doesn't give them any more or less info then you've already gave them

they should have required a proof of legal status so that would have made it harder for illegals to get them, but we all know why they'd never do that

you can't, you will be automatically presumed as a resident of the state that you last held a drive license of, if you never had a license - state where you graduated high school, if you didn't graduate high school, last state you attended school or have spent over 20 days in (physically)

you are not as smart as you think you are

You retards cant pin everything bad you don't like on the dems this is literally Trumps own party

Literally every major U.S. bill is Orwellian in its name. “Real” ID, so they’re saying no ID before this was real? Then you got the inflation reduction act which didn’t reduce inflation or the affordable healthcare act which didn’t make healthcare affordable.

That's not how it works
That's how cops want it to work.

The time is different from state to state, some states it's up to 6 months iirc, not 20 days

hey, so basically, I'm just not gonna fly anymore
I know... UGH I know...
It's just that I'm not gonna fly anymore HAHAHAHA

stop being poor/black

no that's to maintain a residency (mostly for tax purposes)

the only way I can think of is if you were born overseas but got citizenship through your parents but even then their last residency would probably commute on to you

shut it, airline shill. Fuck you and fuck flying. No reason to go see international brownoids, or see brownoids in other states. All my family lives within driving distance

Flying is for niggers that want to die with people in coach. Fuck you nigger

Just buy or build a plane and fly without a loicense

Indulge us with the real reason

the jew FEARS the private ultralight aircraft

No.
There were cases, can't rectal but it basically says

You can be a current author being a state citizen

You can be a state citizen without being a federal citizen

And no, it decalts you to a permanent resident after so many days, usually like 2 or 3 months and only then they can hassle you will that shit.
They can't force their shit in people that didn't live there. You can go vacation in a state for 2 months and they can't force their vehicle inspection on you

Their goal is to push RealID and make it as needlessly annoying as possible to try and convince midwits that voter ID would be voter suppression because of what a headache realID is.

I didn't say ultralight

It's conspiracy retards pushing it and it literally doesn't matter at all. Everything they claim it does is already a thing that is happening. Real Id just makes it harder for illegals to get ID through fraudulent means.

All of the following them claim is already in effect and will continue to be in effect even if they "appeal real id".

Database using facial recognition

Drivers license database is connected to other databases and any cop or civil servant with the proper access can use it

Cops and other civil servants can use a photo/video of you to scan the DL database without a warrant.

you already have a centralized banking score. It's called a credit/fico score. Thanks 1989 boomers.

all of the following they claim real ID will bring*

To me it’s more about principle, you’re making my ass go hunting in the closet for my birth certificate and pay $80 Jew bucks when I KNOW illegals will still be flying around without one anyway. It’s a humiliation ritual.

That's why I'm not renewing shit

The same person that wrote the patriot act wrote the real id act. Fucking kill yourself faggot

Looks lawless inside of Chicago as well

You can't magic sovtard away jurisdiction. If your hairbrained ass idea worked and you could "renounce state citizenship", then congrats you just became the same as a brown man from Puerto Rico. Who has to register his car and get it insured in the state he is residing in. and you also now have to get a license somehow which is impossible since the federal government doesn't issue those to sovtards.

This has never worked at all. You will be pulled over. Arrested, Shit towed. And then be fucked out the ass in civil fines.

We blow up schlomo DMV

I hope you try this and post your first LE encounter to youtube

what lol, what burbs are you going to where its lawless. Chicago has a fuck ton of police everywhere all the time. Its actually shocking how most of the crime is all concentrated in one (((spot))).

Or did you mean lawless as in the police let you do what you like, cause most of the time yeah they are chill outside the city. Hell if you go down south far enough you might as well be in TN.

Blow his head off with a plasma rifle when he gets out his police cruiser thinking it's another routine schlomo stop

I would use my U.S. Passport Card or my U.S. Passport as my Real ID. I don't need one for my driver's license. If I were to travel domestic flights, I were to use either my card or my passport.

Fuck going to the DMV because I don't like going there.

There are people who don't have a jew star on their loicense in 2025

How?

sovtard away jurisdiction

You're dumb

Sovereign citizens don't identify as federal citizens, seethe harder zogbot

And you can't force citizenship on everyone that passes through a jurisdiction. I'm literally immune, and the only reason others get fucked is because they are permanent residents of a state that requires it. Once again, I am not because I exist in a state of perpetual travel. Inb4 you default to do vit memes, they are subject to state requirements as a permanent resident. As only a federal citizen, I am not subject to and local jurisdiction requiring anything to use a car
The supremacy clause supercedes your opinion on what is required.

Probably this

Try it out, post results lol

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Sure, where are you, officer, I'll come there and try it out so I can kill you

You've been watching souvern citizen videos on YouTube again haven't you Craig?

You need it to fly or enter a federal building.

finally, someone with braincells. iirc, boomers went hog wild about federal IDs in the 2000's and early 2010's, so it never got implemented. That said, i'd still have drivers license handled by the state and allow states to issue ID's. The only thing worse than trying to renew your diver's license with your sate DMV, is doing so with a centralized federal DMV.

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democrats

but rechudlicans signed off on it?

to add, they are already cheap like state ID, so there isn't a cry about intercity moon crickets not affording to vote with a passport card.

Black people cant even figure out how to get a regular ID, now you want them to attempt to get a real id?

If you want the illegals gone don't bitch about Real ID needed for everything. Only Americans can get Real IDs. Real IDs are sending the invaders back.

You and I both know they only say the bottom so they can get as many votes from non-white people as possible.

Bush passed this EO back in 2004

And you can't force citizenship on everyone that passes through a jurisdiction.

No, but you can force license, registration and insurance requirements. Your plan here only works if you got IRP as that is the ONLY circumstance where states are required to relinquish their right-of-way authority. IRP, under Federal law, requires a CDL aka a Real ID, commercial truck insurance, and a properly inspected and registered CMV.

For example, a dump truck.

Same, I've never flown because I have a fear of heights/flight though

Why are the Democrats pushing this so hard?

Half jew half chink woman. The ultimate money wrangler.

Nobody said they are going to force citizenship on you, but the laws enacted by the democratically elected state legislature and you by being in the state and doing said illegal thing makes you subject to their authority. You are getting your legal theory from movies and other youtube retards and it's going to get you locked up for driving without a license.

Federal Amtrak trains, including state paid trains staffed by Amtrak crews, will require Real ID on Jan 1st. This includes commuter trains. Anything with an AMTK reporting mark will need a Real ID. Greyhound, Flexbus and Stagecoach will require Real ID to travel at the same time. This is done to crack down on aliens and get the invaders out.

What happens if I refuse to get one?

My id expired in like 2019 and I just even got another one. Nothing has happened I can still buy cigs and booze and no one gives a fuck, I’m convinced you don’t need them all

this is wrong

anyone can get real ID

fat arms, mid face, horrible proportions. Thats a 5. My picrel is an 8

If you're too stupid to figure out how to get an ID you shouldn't be voting. Think of it as a basic iq test.

look bud we like having ID's to vote we don't like the passport and extra stuff to vote. like I don't know your birth certificate the most accessable option, which has to match your current name so,uh oh anyone who changed their name can't vote (and changing your name is a really popular among gay people) your welcome and I hope to keep this civil

Mark of the beast

Why are the

you mean the uniparty
its part of the plan
you cant control your herd, until you have them all tagged

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Never rode on amtrak either though that's not because of fear just because I have a car

No they can't. And I know this because half my company was fired because they could not get a Real ID. No US Citizenship or No Green Card then No Real ID. I have literally walked into the DMV with guys to see the DMV tell them No because they are Mexican or Guatemalan Citizens, not Americans.

You should read up on the sovereign citizens movement and the success that they have when claiming governments don't have jurisdiction over them.

No, you're simply incorrect.
For example only 3 states have motor vehicle inspection.
Those states cannot stop out of state cars and wrote tickets for not having it. They can only write tickets for the citizens of that state.

White genocide.

If you have an ID you probably already have one

See If you are not a permanent resident of a state, they can't do shit unless you are a permanent resident of another that requires it.
You so not have to be a state citizen.

California has no problem writing tickets, arresting drivers, and towing out-of-state vehicles that have been in California longer than 90 days without a smog check.

This, brought to you by the same fine folks behind the patriot act and the total information awareness project

They can do shit to you unless you, through the FMSCA, sign away that power to the Federal government. But this rarely helps as the FMSCA devolves their road authority down to accredited agencies, including all 50 state Highway Patrols. The FMSCA doesn't care what state you were in when you broke Federal laws, you as a Federal Citizen disobeyed the Federal government and will be brought up on Federal charges and go to a Federal Court and either pay fines to the US Treasury or do time in a Federal Penitentiary.

All through IRP. And this matters a lot with guys who try to use mexican diesel on our side of the border or blend dirty diesel together and steal tax money from uncle scam.

that have been in California longer than 90 days

That's because after 90 days the person is considered a permanent resident....
If I drive into and that try to tow it on day 1 then I'm well within my rights to kill them for grand theft Auto

If I drive into and that try to tow it on day 1 then I'm well within my rights to kill them for grand theft Auto

Only if it's on the waybill per IRP. Again, the Federal government isn't stupid. You owe them the fuel taxes.

blatantly untrue. real id is only for handing to that one guy at the booth in airports before you put ur stuff on the rollers through the xray. oh and they're trying to replace that all with facial recog anyway.
amtrak does technically already require id that matches the ticket reservation but they have never, ever checked.

The latter.
Police are generally just an afterthought here.

Its a so basic idea that I was not aware that americans don't have it. Its like you want electoral frauds

I googled that, it's for commercial vehicles. I'm about probably cars not engaged in commercial activity.
There's no federal license/insurance laws. Only state laws that affect residents of those states. If you are not a resident of any state and still a federal citizen then you can travel by whatever means you want, except for airplanes because the FAA requires a license for everything above ultralight.

Real ID is just a way to force every American into a national facial recognition and biometric database, the likes of which would have only been a wet dream to any number of dystopian authoritarian assholes throughout history. That is the one and only reason it exists.

At this point, the only free men are the undocumented ones.

You can't fly on woke nigger pilot DEI airlines

I'm about probably cars not engaged in commercial activity.

Alright, go tell the government you're not engaged in commercial activity. They'll arrest you, put you in jail and force you to prove it in a court.

I think I already have one. I don’t think it’s anything special other than you need more documents to acquire it.

Absolutely terrible plan, please start a blog for me to subscribe to

of course you don't want one. You're a literal terrorist who belongs in Guantanamo

You pay fuel taxes at the pump in all 50 states, there's no way around it.
I don't understand what you are even arguing against at this point, you literally just stop at a gas station and buy gas like everyone else.
You simply spend less than 3 months in any 1 state throughout a 1 year period and they cannot claim you as a permanent resident

Also you won't have to pay state income tax

you retard they all already are. every phone computer and surveillance camera has pictures of your face

They can't do that.
They can try, and I'll kill their family after I do prove it in court

You zogbots and bootlickers think you're funny and smart, you're just spineless and shill for retarded tyranny

Then there's no reason for me to respect commercial airspace now is there

Good luck, SovCitAnon.
You're gonna need it.

good luck taking on the Federal government. You can shoot state cops all you want but the Marshals don't stop at state lines

No there have been way too many crashes recently and they are trying to blame air traffic control which is retarded

They can't do that.

They can try, and I'll kill their family after I do prove it in court

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I'm right outside your door, Anon

DEATH TO BOOTLICKERS

I never said the federal government
I said state government can't do shit if you're not a citizen of a state

Spoopy

Okay I want you to follow me on this

if changing your name makes you unable to vote

and you change your name

you never should have been allowed to vote

I know you are a dumbass tranoid faggot, because there are legal ways to change your name, and those presented along with your birth certificate provide a chain of custody.

You are a mentally ill faggot pretending to have a different name.

You COULD legally have that name, but you are just a stupid faggot so you don’t.
You COULD legally acquire the ID with your legal name, but you are a stupid faggot so you don’t.

Stupid ass faggot

You retards cant pin everything bad you don't like on the dems

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More states have inspections than 3. That is covered by practical reciprocity agreements and is the only single thing that is "allowed" because of a weird legal quagmire that exists . What does happen though, is most of the time you don't have a valid state inspection your registration/plates aren't good either after so many days. The inspection and registration are also usually tied together. Same thing for insurance, reciprocity agreement and informal commonlaw means your insurance minimum for your state's registered vehicle will be waived as a criminal infraction if it doesn't meet the other state's minimum but you WILL be liable through civil judgement for the difference. You also need a valid driver's license, or something in lieu of that recognized by the state. And no by becoming LE FEDERAL CITIZEN that doesn't exempt you from local or state laws. What kind of mental retardation is that. By your logic some europoor could import their shitbox and drive 100 mph with no license from their home country or plates. Hell noone would be subject to any laws if they aren't a "citizen" of the state in question. You are a massive retard.

No, you're the retard making up strawmen and talking out your ass.
Some states some even require car insurance

You better keep your sovereign citizen ass out of these states or your car is to be impounded

That's a 6. She's too fat, face is too plain, and her tits are way too small. I hate thunder thigh bitches like in your pic. They always end up morbidly obese and their tits never grow.

Whites shouldn't be required to have IDs. There should be open borders for whites between all countries.

Other girls face is Better. More feminine.
Would pick your girl only for bearing my son.

Measurement girl wins in all other aspects, she’s just better aesthetically. Yours has a mannish face structure and less curves. Tits might be better but who knows, yours look possibly fake.

I’ll stop now, but the more I look just the more masculine your choice is, which is weird since it’s against an actual athelete.

Are you just not on your meds? You are the one who said only 3 states have inspections.
here

For example only 3 states have motor vehicle inspection

Maybe you should try going off your control pills cuck.

I misread the map about 15 years ago, get over it.
Keep your sovcit ass out of these states or your car still be towed.
If you want to enter these states, you better get you car inspected to their standards before and bring proof

That's how dumb you sound.

Why are the Democrats pushing this so hard

Lmao

Illegals can fly domestically with their international passports however, making this point kinda moot.

Also if you read my post.

That is covered by practical reciprocity agreements

All 50 states through their state lawmakers or the state AG all entered into agreements and the DLC cover this. If you are traveling,vacation,or short term stay,etc in another state you are not considered to be in violation of the state law as long as your car is otherwise legal in the origin state of register in regards to state inspections. However there can be specific issues such as tint, or vehicle modifications that will result in a ticket. These are edge cases and usually never come up because most violators are illegal in their home state as well. Though though rare cases they are actually appealable due to a high to reach legal standard lack of notice. As a grown ass man in this country you know you need a driver's license to operate a car so that doesn't apply. And you are indeed subject to the state law.

I'd rather get a passport card. Like what's the point of getting this thing?

You're wrong still.

As a federal citizen, you have the right to travel to all of the states.
Everyone, almost, is a federal citizen. You do not have to be a state citizen. Those agreements between states didn't mean shit if you're not the subject of another state

Haven’t had a valid “id” in 14 years. Yes, I’m white.

what's up with paying $130 to the department of state for a passport book. the new passport is fucking odd looking. really a plastic sheet and gay security readings. it's all gov't control bs. too bad we can't go back to the good ol' days and smoke on a plane and say fuck you to the TSA. thanks sandniggers.

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okay well good luck with all that.

Just don't pay for any of it.
Don't even renew your if.
Buy or build an ultralight and just fly everywhere, you funny even need a license or insurance

if they choose to go down the WWIII false flag route it will be easy to track people that way when continuity of government operations are occuring

Why are the Democrats pushing this so hard?

You know how Democrats resist voter ID because they like saying niggers are too stupid to get a drivers license?
What if they made the process of getting a valid ID so complicated that niggers wouldn't be able to get IDs.

Thanks

Supremacy clause
Murdock vs pa
Shuttleworth vs Birmingham

"No state can convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee"

"If the state converts the right into a privilege, the citizens can disregard such a law and engage in that right with impunity "

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when you find out about how passports work.

I didn't even mention passports in my last post

What are you even implying here? I'm not going to use it to drive, it's mostly for booze, guns, and international travel

Boomer security theater because "muh 9/11". Completely unnecessary and worthless, but we're still doing it anyway because "Never forget, 10 billion police states now".

Democrats weren't pushing it, Republicans were forced to push it because Democraps kept giving illegal immigrants driver's licenses based on fraudulent paperwork. So instead of saying "invalidate all old licenses and start requiring identity confirmation for everyone", the Republicans cucked and said "ok, keep giving illegals driver's licenses but mark the ones where you've verified identity so that we at least know who isn't an illegal immigrant with fake paperwork".

I think the issue was that there was DMV locations closing near rural areas or something once they tried prioritizing voter ID, but I don't think it's really a good excuse. I think states charging randomly high and low prices and taxes for their ID compared to others should be looked into, they should have a flat rate fee at best.
(also see the shitty reddit comic that shows situations that are false with the exception of the top right, but usually there are other forms of ID that a senior have acquired over the years that will suffice for the lack of a birth record)
You can't really do anything without a proper photo ID once you're 16+, so I don't really understand the meltdowns that were happening about voter ID. You'd be lucky if you can get a job without one these days unless you're getting paid under the table or something.

carry around a device with several cameras and microphones tracked by cell towers and GPS

post everything you do on a day to day basis along with your opinions on massive data farms masquerading as "social media" they're training the dead internet AIs on

oh noes not muh Real ID muh antichrist muh government over-reach they're gonna track us all duh Matrix bro

Get fucked beaner.

Projecting this hard

Not everyone is you, faggot

My license expired in Feb I couldn't renew online . Both whores on the phone and office kept pushing it . I don't plan on flying or visiting a goberment bldg . I just said no and removed my organ donor status .
I pass the DMV every day and at 7am the lines out the door with normies waiting every single day

cont.
You can't even open a bank account, a digital wallet, pick up certain prescriptions, or purchase alcohol, and much more without a photo ID.
It's bullshit to argue that voting should be exempt from the rule, when in reality it should be that everyone as a US-born citizen should have one like I stated in that encompasses the same standards and legitimacy of an SSN card, birth certificate, passport all rolled into one without it being specifically a "travel document".

What are you even implying here?

That you are a massive retard who doesn't understand "state citizenship" isn't a thing. Let's say you go get a US passport and throw away your state DL and send someone some bullshit legal letter. That passport identifies you as being from a state and a "state citizen" aka you live in a state. Also as I told you before, what you said is invalid. People who actually have the closest thing you think you can sovtard up "federal citizen" are military brats/born in a US territory are required to get a military/territory DL. People from other countries need to go to the local DMV or ambassador and get sorted out.

driving is a privilege' not a right. You can go to any state or US territory. You may not however choose the specific method of travel.

You're complaining about the barn door being open after all of the horses left over a decade ago.
It's far too late to even pretend to care about having to bring in a fucking passport and birth certificate to get a little gold star on your license.
Read the room and leave the US already you dumb illegal.

driving is a privilege'

Only for permanent residents of states, retard. I'm not subject to those restrictions. There's literally nothing requiring a federal citizen to have license, insurance, registration, or inspection

You assume everyone is a smartphone toting twatter user like yourself

Nobody's forcing you to get "real ID" either, unless you want to vote you stupid illegal.

I'm honestly confused by this. Here in Europe we have one government ID that does basically everything except count as a driver's license. You need to be a citizen to get one. Without one you can't vote, travel, get a job etc.
If implemented correctly, this would solve two of Anon Babble's main concerns immediately, i.e. illegals coming in and people who shouldn't be voting voting.

Where the hell did you even hear this crap? It was originally was post-9/11 counter terrorism bullshit.

Vooooting in a rigged election

Lol next you're going to assume that I pay taxes

Real ID is still optional for now.

That's why there's all of this fake and gay push back from it by mysterious an-crapitalists (Democrats that need illegals to vote)
Most anons probably already have Real ID and don't even realize it.

I only care about bra size.

bicep in the singular

Uh no I can't get on a plane flown by a DEI niggress.

Here your driver's license is basically the id you described, but with driving endorsements.
If you don't have the right to drive any kids you can get the nigger version which is just an id.
To vooote you also need a voter registration card which is just a peice of cardboard paper
To go out of country you gotta get the passport
This real id is meant to replace state IDs with a new state id that requires federal government databases to verify your citizenship. They plan to require the passport or the real id to get in a plane or bus or train and drivers license that will only be recognized for driving and can't be used to board a plane or whatever

lol okay. good luck getting arrested retard.

Seethe harder, cop.