Why can't America bring back manufacturing? Are people too lazy?
Tariffs
Westerners see themselves as above manufacturing and farming. Dirty work like that is for lesser mud-people. They think soi jobs like commercial artwork and filmmaking and onlyfans is "real" work.
Why can't America bring back manufacturing? Are people too lazy?
It's all just talk. Maybe manufacturing is impossible to bring back, or maybe it isn't. All I remember is that I'm old enough to remember that back in the 90s when globalization really started to kick off, American corporations were tripping over each other to move their manufacturing out of the United States to other countries as fast as they could to take advantage of the cheap labor. But now, all of a sudden, in the current year, it's an impossible task to bring all this manufacturing back after they proved they can do such a fast, efficient, and quality job of it in the 90s? I don't buy into that. I think they're just clinging to their profit margins and spreading all this propaganda so they can keep their cheap 3rd world slave labor.
the tariffs make buying from china the machinery necessary to build new factories impossible
Even if we bring manufacturing back to the states, it will be 95% automated robot factories and this will not benefit Americans in the slightest
Then fabricate the machinery domestically
you think if companies could profit the same or more in america they wouldn't have already moved back?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
But they just don't seem to realize that building all your factories overseas has a whole other set of issues that could make the cheap labor not worth the trouble.
that would be uneconomical, the value of the dollar would need to be cut first
Its not done cause its not easy
You cant bring back Sweat Shops cause its illegal.
You can try to bring back highly automated products, but that requires time to build the factories, and taking also into account access to raw materials, Local or Close to local markets demand for the product in question, Machinery and Manteinance, and, the trojan horse that it also means its easy to replicate somewhere else unless you get a monopoly on the machines themselves (See Chips manufacturing as close example)
Even if you TRY to bring back manufacturing WHO will want to work it?
If it comes back, its gonna be either
A) Low tier denominator minimum wage job that no one wants
or
B) Highly skill detailed job that no one has the qualification for so companies will either import the labor or be forced to spent more upfront costs to train people (which will just kill any incentive to bring the fucking thing over)
bring back manufacturing CAN BE DONE, but realistically it will be mostly for the benefit of Company owners/ CEO, not American people cause, again, Minimum Wage Jobs
Yeah, right, we need a total economic collapse to-not invent-but copy things invented in America 70 years ago
you don't need a total economic collapse, you need to bring the value of dollar in line with other currencies. yes, that means that you won't be able to import so much cheap stuff from the rest of the world, but that's hardly the same as economic collapse, that's just putting an end to spending more than you can afford. manufacturing is never coming back to the US until that happens.
100 Years ago during the boom of American Manufacturing IT WAS POSSIBLE to have a middle / high standard of living out of a factory job for minimum wage.
in 2024, year of our lord, Minimum Wage is akin to highschooler Pocket change. NO ONE that is not 1 step away from suicide will want to do that job.
turns out that we as a nation, still love slavery.
then build the machinery domestically...
this is a retarded take and i am just here to call you fucking retarded.
True. They can up sticks and leave for China no problem but coming back is just so impossible? Nah.
Manufacturing in America was viable post WW2 when the half of the world was in shambles and the other half was not industrialized.
Now, you're not going to outcompete a chink working 12 hours for a handful of rice.
And who is going to do that exactly and why? Better to wait to Trump to die in 2 years or something and return to business as usual than risk billions
We choose to bring back manufacturing in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win.
not worth the trouble
what trouble? record revenue for nearly 3 decades now, and at the same time not paying taxes in the US?
uff, so much trouble indeed
Sorry guy but we just can't find the help in America yet somehow we have absolutely no problems fining it in whatever third world shithole that's cheap
They are so full of shit.
People are too educated. You dont spend two decades in schools than go assemble coffeemakers or move boxes around in a factory.
That's not what I said. I just asked waht problem was it that it wasn't worth the trouble.
It was obviously very much worth the trouble, you're just not a giant US corporation with factories overseas and not paying taxes.
But hey, MROE TAX CUTS, amirite?
Of course not, they offshored to get a bigger profit portion. But that doesn't matter, they would still be making gains domestically, and not tiny ones either.
Massive ones in fact. Enough to essentially bring the world into the era of electricity, talking to mestizos online, and being able to nuke the world into dust.
It is faggot Jewshit to suggest we can't return manufacturing domestically or to suggest some nonsense it would be impossible. Oh yes sure, and everyone was in abject poverty from 1940 to 2025 too and the rich didn't experience any opulence at all in those crisis situations, where normal people could afford housing and having children it was practically a dark age of human condition.
Unlike now where we have smart phones, jabs, disney+ subscriptions, and personal computers. Truly the difference between living in a cave scrambling for food scraps and modern pod living utopia.
If only a banker kike could get one more extra shekel per quarter we'd clearly all become gods. That is why we must hate tariffs and protectionist policies. A soiak's vidya console might cost a little more for a few years, in exchange for a functional society that is even sustainable without fully replacing it with immigrants and all the globe inevitably degenerating back to medieval pre-industrial shitholes.
I said they not you.
being a "renaissance man" doesn't produce a single damned thing and unless it somehow leads to making gold robots that do, it really doesn't matter what knowledge someone has in the humanities or what ideologies some kike professor implants into goyim heads. It just makes a listless parasite richer and have more social power in that particular generation.
People are tooo educated
Is not a matter of pride, is a matter of money, "put this cheap shit together" labor line or sweat shop just dont pay enough for the workload or cost of living.
Yes, companies simply cannot find labor as cheap in teh US market as they find in 3rd world countries. That much is obvious.
In fact, it is so obvious that the only way Trump hopes to bring it all back is by making overseas goods extremely expensive to the American public via tariffs. So expensive, that compared to expensive american-made goods, they will look cheap
Simply put: the USA blue-collar labor market cannot compete globally. That's the message Trump is sending.
You have to compete yourself out of business
How about no.
1.) Trump has the same problem with restoration of manufacturing that the libs in the pnw had with decriminalization of hard drugs. The infrastructure isn't there!
Sure, great idea,instead of sending folks to prison for possession, we give them rehab instead but what happens when ypu don't have the rehab facilities or halfway houses? Same with manufacturing, you can tarrif until the cows come home but you won't get manufacturing back, building a factory is expensive, Very expensive. Tarrifs alone won't cover the cost to set up shop.
The other problem is people, they want to get paid and paid fairly and well. So companies will have 2 choices, hire illegals or robots. Niether will work well for the average American
At some point you’ll have to stop blaming every problem in the world on people being lazy.
I would work a factory job if they were better
like union contract tier, I want to work 30 hours per week and get paid well for doing it
it will be 95% automated robot factories
True
and this will not benefit Americans in the slightest
False
The culture here is insane and basically tries to be like crabs in a bucket, preventing anybody from building anything. That cultural hurdle has to be crossed in order for manufacturing to be brought back successfully
Still preferable to funding the rise of our enemy.
robots
yes, that's the only way US manufacturing can compete world-wide, mass-automation. Robots cost only the electricity they use, whatever spare parts they might need, and a handful of techs keeping the carrousel going.
But factories full of employed workers, by the many, many thousands? Nah, that's 3rd world country reality, where labor is even cheaper than robots.
So, who benefits? The US worker? Nope, the robots owners and manufacturers.
Companies have been really spoiled on the fact that third worlders will work for pennies, so they'll never voluntarily move their manufacturing to anywhere they have to pay a real wage.
Somehow you could do manufacturing in America circa 1950 and even get paid well doing it but nope can't do that now
here
ok chang
People aren't lazy. Americans are lazy.
China is the last place you'd want to get any material for construction.
like union contract tier, I want to work 30 hours per week and get paid well for doing it
You are gonna work 60 Hour, no Over time, No AC, 1 Bathroom break, Food will be provideed buy you will be charged a fixed amount from your paycheck. no benefits, no 401K matching, State minimum Wage.
Apply now, Only Americans, Dirty Ilegal Go Homu.
>and this will not benefit Americans in the slightest
False
explain your reasoning
that's right, they can't do that now because the world isn't bombed to dust anymore.
No, as you said before, they can simply pay a chink or whoever less. Which given that they ended slavery and the world did not end the pay argument does not fly.
they can simply pay a chink or whoever less
yep, that's literally how globalism works.
"build over there, sell over here"
We know, and it's ending. Womp womp megacorps.
Reshoring will cushion the future loss of US manufacturing jobs to 95% automated factories, as well as giving us strategic independence.
punish people for going to college so now people don't and you lack enough qualified people
flip flopping on tariffs remaining in place that most people with the money to bring manufacturing back figure they can just wait out the 4 years until regime change and sell to others.
Shrinking domestic spending in general begs the question of why invest in a nation that is clearly on the way out and undergoing demographic collapse
richfag elites don't care about nationalism anyway so they only do what's profitable
And those are the main reasons why it's an impossible pipe dream
and it's ending.
No, it's not, it's just shifting someplace else.
Yeah, America.
The manufacturing capacity alone is valuable. During a war, the country that runs out of the ability to manufacture war goods, loses. It is why we did so well in each world war, we used to make a lot of stuff. We couldn't even produce ammo for a real war now.
Kill yourself kike
Most people work jobs they fucking hate, no one wants to actually be in the service industry but we live in a service economy.
Manufacturing jobs offer a new path, one where you don't need to deal with morons multiple times a day and instead deal with machines.
This will also mean there's less competition for service jobs, and maybe even make it so that service companies need to compete for workers and thus need to make those jobs more appealing with higher pay and benefits.
Plenty of people would rather work manufacturing as opposed to service.
Not if it pays well. It just hasn't paid well for a long time so the culture moved around it.
The real issue is childless atheists who put their personal pleasure over their family's future.
Look at these two rabbis prattling on about their made up lies. Nothing but lie after lie after lie in these posts.
I wonder if people tried to stop the industrial revolution too. Globalism is an ideology but globalization is a force of nature.
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post criticized the culture here
anti-china
Glownigger created bot
I still remember king nigger's magic wand comment. Then Trump whipped out his magic wand.
Newsflash, retard:
China regularly steals and copies the technologies that other countries have developed (or that Israel steals and sells to them).
Where the fuck do you think China's "modern technology" came from in the first place?
Protectionism isn't globalization. What America is doing is turning itself inward, a bit like N. Korea did, and eliminating itself from globalization, but globalization is not the USA: there are 200+ countries out there all still cooperating and trading goods and services.
If the USA doesn't want to be part of that, they are free to do so, but the rest of the world will carry on.
So is globalization over? Obviously not.
I see you didn't hear me. We're not going that any more.
legal technology transfers that were part of the manufacturing deals
You can call me whatever you want, but it won't make what I said false.
gotcha
Are you even American
You can't just not do slavery! You will never compete without free labour! It's a force of nature!
No.
yes, they learned the existing technology from other countries, the same way the US learned technology from Europe. however you need to wake up to the reality that today, the Chinese are driving all innovation, and you will need their help to learn how to build 21th century factories, because you no longer know how to do shit other than spend overvalued dollars on things other people build for you.
Why are you so interested in our policies then
circa 1950 and even get paid well doing it but nope can't do that now
Lets see
1950:
Home: 7,400$
Or Rent: 75$/Month
New Car: 1,500-2,500$
Groceries: 20$/ Month
Yearly Cost of Living: 1,140$
Minimum Wave: 0.75$/H = 1,560$ Year
Left Over: 420$
2024:
Home 415,000$
Rent: 2,100$/ Month
New Car: 20,000-50,000$
Groceries: 845$/ Month
Yearly Cost of Living: 35,340$
Minimum Wage: 7.25$/H = 15,080 Year
Left Over: -20,260$ (In Debt)
YOU FUCKING CLOWN
Because if you can do it so can others.
The US has the second highest manufacturing output in the world. Why do you think we don't manufacture anything here?
Yes.
Americans are lazy and greedy
you will have to learn from China
This is just simply not even true. America has the most advanced factories in the world.
Replaced it with a Talmud book. Never met a bigger kike lover.
Not adjusted for inflation
yeah, they should really give the rich more tax breaks.
/s, in case that wasn't obvious
name one sector where the US has more advanced factories than China
Don't use minimum wage. It's disingenuous and it's always pointed out only 700k people in the US make the federal minimum wage. It makes you look dishonest and your other posts are assumed to be lies.
Using something like median wage would still make your point without negatively impacting your credibility.
It's disingenuous
You are not gonna be paid 30$/H for factory line work anon. So minimum wage is the most realistic standard.
Why not? You pay whatever you have to to get a guy in the door to do the job.
Hey maybe you're right. Maybe we can turn the clocks back 50 years. Shift all that capital and infrastructure. Alter the spending habits of a generation, ween the American public off of affordable imported junk, in the span of 3 years or so. Tall order but perhaps.
We want cheap products. There's a fantasy that American intelligence and work ethnic just makes better, affordable long term high quality products, but Chinese goods being cheap and serviceable are the result of what we consider slave wages and working conditions and worker protections are horrible. They also have an abundance of cheap slave labor gathered raw materials.
The end result will likely be products more expensive but lower quality.
We went around the world ending slavery by force. Turns out we were the force of nature instead.
Why not? You pay whatever you have to to get a guy in the door to do the job.
How are the lines fr people to do Farming work doing?? Oh WAIT.
This is just propaganda to keep us dependent on chinese manufacuring so we cant stop them from taking taiwan when they cut us off. I worked at a manufacturing plant in illinois that made conveyors and robotic arms for other domestic manufacturing. We're actually very strong at it. The entire industry is dominated by white polish immigrants, which is why the jews are also on board to shut it down.
China has unironically better worker protections than the US. the only reason you are able to import shit from everywhere (not only China) for almost nothing is due to the reserve currency status of the USD.
If you were to hypothetically pay the guy $1million you will have a queue around the block.
God I can't wait for americans to become even more poor while being ravaged by increasing rent and housing, I want them to suffer, to fight each other to KILL each other. God I can't wait
is 11 dollars 30 you shot up bastard?
That's not globalism. That's free market. America always was a haven for protected manufacture.
Damn imagine the price of a set of injection molded children's sand-buckets if you paid the guy pushing the button a million a year.
If you paid someone 1M to pick up blue berries, the sales prices to recoup your costs will make it that blue berries wont sell or became a extreme luxury item.
So no, the exist a limit of cost of labor vs target market sales prices, if you break that barrier, your bussiness is unsustainable unless you hold a monopoly of an commodity that is a life essential.
Military aircraft, rockets, weapons, medical and biotech, renewable energy
Not much higher than it'd be if you paid him 12k USD/year, production in industry consumes very little manpower, even in a factory 80% are employment in management and sales.
Nooo I need my rubber ducks to cost 5p less!
Military aircraft
The F-35? Lol no.
rockets
Maybe
weapons
Your arsenal is for all purposes stuck in the late Cold War
medical
Yes
biotech
Lol no, even we beat your ancient agriculture
renewable energy
Lol no.
You confuse having the HQ of companies that sell certain products, with having the tech of said products and their production. Your industry is less advanced than ours.
They are bringing it back , nigger Jew
More precisely , Trump and his tariffs are
It's higher than 11 you executed Jew
Military aircraft
possibly
rockets, weapons
not even close, while US workers are painting shells one by one, China has fully automated factories that build hundreds of missiles every day
medical and biotech
the only biotech where the US has an edge is in vax development, everything else is dominated by china
renewable energy
lmao, is this is a joke?
Corporations have zero ethics and will do anything in their power to maximize profit.
First-world citizens don't want to work for third-world slave wages.
Here you go.
Shut the fuck up moron, maybe in the liberal shit hole you live in but the rest of the country is full of blue-collar workers that bust their ass every day and enjoy the virtues of hard work. We are the real ones making this country great while the rest of you faggots do basically nothing and ride on the inventions of the .001% of actual engineers and innovators that create your Starbucks tech dystopia.
The beginning of the supply chain for something you want to fabricate is the raw, unrefined material/resource. Demand for this resource is created by the eventual manufacturer, this is true, but the resource needs to exist, and we need to have a way of extracting it. Much of our raw resource extraction pre-refinement happens outside of this country. The major shift towards this arrangement happened in the mid 1960s through the mid 1980s. There are many reasons for it, but at least the mechanism for really dampening those resource operations in our nation was the EPA and major regulation to clean up natural habitats which were inevitably poisoned by the processes of resource extraction. This aspect of our de-industrialization did result in much cleaner air and water, but I don't think its fair to argue that through the application of technology and regulations we cannot extract resources more cleanly today, simply that it would be way more expensive to do it in this country.
So if you're a US refiner or manufacturer who needs steel or copper or aluminium (via boxite) or any number of raw materials in order to create your product, you've been buying from outside the country and either bringing the raw materials here, or - in the case that you trust someone to refine or create parts for you in other countries which are up to your specs and standards, you buy everything elsewhere to assemble here. In order to ramp up production domestically, you need time. You need the companies who can extract raw materials to get ramped up in the domestic extraction of those materials. You need refiners to ramp up their capacity to refine what is needed. Then you need manufacturers to create new tools and production centers to create goods. It's not something that can or will happen quickly and overnight, but something that needs a multi-year strategy to plan and implement. It's not that we can't bring back manufacturing, it's just that we can't do it instantly.
My rubber ducks are bespoke, purchased at Harrods.
This is one of the problems in the whole scheme, the factories coming back under the guise that it'll create jobs. The jobs will be as you've mentioned, mostly white collar. Assembly line production only works overseas/in developing nations because you can pay those people peanuts and still maintain a profitable overhead selling gimcracks and widgets.
Americans want to bring back manufacturing
Americans themselves don't want to work in a factory
America doesn't have nearly enough tradies
They want to have a podcast on YT or TikTok where they will tell their opinions, OF, Hollywood movie star or a rapper is also acceptable
They don't want immigrants either
If they do work in a factory they want 4x Chinese salary but won't accept prices rising
Americans are retarded, Trump is retarded
guess what, we don't need Chinese cheap labor anymore, subsidized autonomous humanoid robotics supported by fewer by more technically trained employees is the future. The biggest cost in the future will be transportation costs, and America will out-compete China in many markets, especially North America and South American markets.
Why did the western world give away its own manufacturing to China decades ago? You really have to wonder. Took them years and years to draw up domestic and international law and agreements to literally hand China a freebie and simultaneously disempower their own domestic strength and power. Haha. I'm sure the experts back in the day never truly imagined that gifting industry and manufacture to China for free would hurt their own nations. lol
You need machinery to build machinery and the machinery required for machinery manufacturing is produced in China
Made by only the scrawniest of Chinese children, guaranteed.
As someone that works in IT for a global company it's easy as fuck for the CCP to do it.
It's a requirement to put software from the CCP on our Chinese hosted servers, and let it through all our security shit, since all our anti spyware will flag it if we don't.
Assembly line production only works overseas/in developing nations because you can pay those people peanuts and still maintain a profitable overhead selling gimcracks and widgets.
You're an idiot, most poor nations have very little industry despite having extremely low wages. Factories today require cheap energy, lots of machinery and a tiny number of highly skilled (actually skilled, not modern West skilled) workers.
Makes a fake video of Americans working in a factory and 60y later shills on Anon Babble say "it was real akshully"
full of blue-collar workers that bust their ass every day and enjoy the virtues of hard work
The rest of us won’t get cucked into being exploited and having our bodies destroyed for imaginary virtue
People don't want to be slaves getting endlessly screwed by Mr. Businessbergenstein.
Kill yourself.
The romanticizationof menial factory work is like the American romanticization of menial farm work back in the 70s and 80s. And a good sight that these are gone for good.
Robots cost only the electricity they use,
Yeah it's not like you have to buy a robot from a high tech company that charges dearly
whatever spare parts they might need
Yeah that's cheap too
and a handful of techs keeping the carrousel going.
Yes, just a handful of people to service a few million robots kek
"having our bodies destroyed"
as you sit on your onions-chugging fat ass all day in your fake middle-management Youtube job enjoying your fourth booster and stabbing yourself with Ozempic while eating Wendy's
kek, the irony of these posts always gets a chuckle
I never said poor, I just said overseas/developing. China was largely agrarian and engaged in ceaseless political turmoil up until the 60's. They're still very much a developing nation.
Yes, retard, my point exactly
We don't want to work in a factory
We don't want immigrants
We want domestic manufacturing
You are an idiot
Every article, every news segment, any talking head you see going on about this have all been bought and paid for by the people who made LOADS of money by outsourcing. Now they are faced with bringing manufacturing back to America and seeing their 10's of billions shrink to just billions in profit going forward,l for the forseeable future or they can buy a media blitz now and convince the former anti-corporatists that paying more for items made in America is somehow totally different than raising the minimum wage for service industry workers in the hopes that consumer addicted fats vote in a "return to sanity" in 4 years and everything goes back to business as usual.
Let me tell you I don't know shit about China
This developed/developing definition is good if we look at the economy from a service/finances power of view, but it's absolutely useless when it comes to industry. China is the industrial power, but this not true for any other "developing nation", some industrial countries are "developed", like SK and Japan, some are weird like DPRK.
The first thing the US, or any 1st world nation, will have to do to industrialize is to have a better economic worldview.
If it paid well people would do it
It's BECAUSE it pays well that all the jobs went overseas.
I know a forklift operator for Ford in Missouri and they make $75k a year straight time with benefits and matching 401k.
To drive a fucking 5k lbs forklift.
Manufacturing pays fine, NAFTA and other dogshit policy pushed these jobs away from the country.
Nobody wants to do that job though
Many men nowadays are working as line cooks and doing nothing with their lives. If there were more industrial entry level jobs youd see more people doing them because they don't wanna live in a studio apartment with 3 people at 30yo.
this. i work in a factory and it fucking sucks. i only get paid 15 an hour and have to work in a hot sweaty factory all day, but its better than mcdonalds.
on the bright side, if you arent currently employed there are plenty of positions open
do you think factories are built in 24 hours or something?
Why don't you put AC on the factory? The amount of maintenance saved usually end up paying itself in half a decade.
This is the thing that drives me crazy. You cant spin a factory up overnight. It takes forever, years maybe even a decade to large factory up and running.
i asked my boss and he gave me some bull shit response about soft hands. i need this job for health insurance though i dont have much choice.
This is stupid, unless the machinery produces a lot of heat (like a foundry), or if it's ancient, the cold will greatly reduce repairs.
What you work with, anon?
It took about 3 years to go from TSMC announcing they will build it to the factory being online in Arizona. This being among the most complicated factories you can build.
I wonder how many years it'll take to actually being online, instead of the corporate newspeak for "it produced a prototype once".
It is right now.
lol there we go cuck. why address the problem when you can pretend it’s not real?
No, it's not. Do you have any idea of the current production capacity or effeciency?
Look, it can make a prototype, this means it's fully operational, reeeeee
Again, do you have any idea of the production capacity, efficiency, how much of the workforce has been trained, how many of the buildings have been built, how much of the machinery has been installed? It's still in the early stages.
China is uniquely positioned for the needs of the western consumer of bologna. High tech development mixed with cheap manpower. Vertically integrated supply of raw materials doesn't hurt either. Lots of professionals in stuff like tooling engineering as opposed to the west. The capacity is staggering too, I once sat in a bar on Ishigaki drinking awamori with a German guy who worked for Aldi doing bulk buying in power tools. Showed me pictures of the facilities he'd tour, big complexes of factories many of which would sit dormant until orders came through. Said Chinese industry barons are disgusting, smoke everywhere they go, spit on the floor. Ignorant sons of industrialists who toed the party line long enough to build these places and pass them to their ingrate sons. He'd have to take them around, wine and dine, try to negotiate per unit prices on skill saws from 2.00 to 1.96. My point being is this re-shoring effort has a lot of hurdles to pass.
ok kike lol have fun convincing americans to sew soccer balls in a hot factory all day for minimum wage
not so easy
well we had better give up then
let china win and make everything
Prove it's only a prototype faggot.
build massive new factories
all materials and supplies required to build those factories are tariffed at over 100%
lmao
not that easy
so it shouldnt be done
sticking dildo in your butt is easy
so do that instead
Apple has been going to open a plant since 2017, lol.
No, corporations are greedy. The entire reason things were outsourced was to maximize corporate profit. Foreign labor is so cheap that even with transportation and import costs tacked on, it's still cheaper than manufacturing the product in the US. This also does come with a cost, you can't simply move your production overseas for free, after all. There's an upfront cost to doing this, and it's high enough that only large companies can really afford it. It doesn't make sense for smaller companies to outsource.
But the problem is those smaller companies then have to compete against large companies selling products that are cheaper than theirs. The large company wants profit, but that means stealing customers from other companies. The best way to do that is to make your product just slightly cheaper than the competitions. If you use outsourced manufacturing then you can set the price much lower than your competition can. If they try to match your discounts, you add another discount until you find the point where they can't go lower, and you put them out of business.
Outsourcing kills American prosperity. It needs to end.
Mate, instead of this services/finances idea about "muh consumers", it doesn't matter, how about we talk about what makes industry in China different from industry in 1st and 3rd world countries, like Canada or Brazil.
I said crap, so I must be right until you can "prove" I'm wrong, checkmate.
Lmao.
I wonder how many times it got paid the full subsidies package for the factory it totally will built that year.
lmao american economy too weak to compete with china fairly. Just give up like you gave up your foreskin to Israel
Bringing back manufacturing requires a fundamental change in how companies operate. They would have to shift to a policy of higher wages and higher quality over pure cost-profit margins. Personally, I'm all for that, there was a time less than half a century ago when "American made" was considered one of the highest standards of quality. You paid a higher premium for American vehicles, appliances, electronics, etc. but you knew they'd serve you reliably for 10, 20, 30 years.
But companies today aren't prepared to revert to that model; not when they can manufacture breakable, replaceable plastic shit in sweatshops and charge a 9000% overhead, so we're at an impasse.
thats not so easy
but nothing ee-is
I'm butthurt so it has to actually all be some sort of trick
faggot.
Reportedly
Alleged
Unofficial information
It's worse than a prototype, it's fake
Why can't America bring back manufacturing?
Because the people who with the money and resources to do it don't want to
there arent even 200 countries in the world retard
tsmc.com
Here's the official website is that's your problem.
Third world slaves are cheaper. Safety standards and building requirements are also cheaper.
Its why manufacturers fled north America in the first place and it's why migrants are allowed to invade the first world.
Why pay you 30 dollars an hour plus benefits when I can pay jeet or Manuel 15 cents a day and still charge the same amount as if I was paying them 30 dollars an hour.
Jewconomics. Jewpitalism.
That cap
Do some people actually still believe China is paying ? Is that what the WH claims
You can call me a faggot one hundred times, it'll not make the factory in Arizona any less ready, kek.
It's truly amazing how easy it is to fool an Anglo-Saxon.
lmao american economy too weak to compete with china fairly
This implies China "competes fairly" which it never has, at any point, in the last 50 years. China excludes most foreign businesses from even operating in their country. They require foreign businesses to surrender trade secrets and allow the government to manage the local business. They then use these stolen trade secrets to build blatant copies of the foreign product with a domestic company, eventually pushing the foreigners back out of the country. They've done this since the 1970s.
China is the single biggest bad faith business partner in the world.
The Samsung facility in Taylor TX was announced in 2021 and wont go "online" until 2026 if there are "no delays" and even then it wont be anywhere near full production capacity.
Lol we have no industry in Canada man. We trade houses around to stimulate the economy. We should open some factories though, good use for all the Indian immigrants desu.
ah yes company marketing website is good source of information. fucking inbred bong
America is simply fundamentally too expensive to manufacture in so the stuff it does manufacture (it's still number 2 in the world with a huge gap til number 3) tends to be complex and high value. The US doesn't have a a large enough extremely poor workforce to bring back mass.manufacture if low value goods
and 3 years from now trump will be gone and the next president will cancel all tariffs on day 1. that is of course if trump hasnt flip flopped for the millionth time or given into pressure and cancelled them all himself way sooner.
The US doesn't have a a large enough extremely poor workforce to bring back mass.manufacture if low value goods
Who said anything about low value goods, though?
Do some people actually still believe China is paying ?
People believe that reportedly, alleged according to unofficial information, a factory producing one unit of a chip means it's fully operational.
Lol we have no industry in Canada man.
No, you don't, you're a service economy running on oil and iron ore.
We should open some factories though
Why? Brazil has a quite good and modern industrial capacity, and it doesn't make life here any better for the average joe. It's better to live from natural resources like Australia, Canada or Saudi Arabia.
flip flopped
Oh how vintage, I haven't seen someone use that line since Bush '43 was running against Kerry. They handed out flip flops at the RNC that year.
It was even cringier than you sound, faggot
The problem is we have outsourced what is considered to be vital manufacturing industries too. Basic components for transportation and electronics also eventually reached that point where it was cheaper to import than to produce locally, but it is simply too big a risk to be dependent on foreigners for these things.
fuck manufacturing roll out the replicators
That's the industry you outsourced, you still have mass high value manufacturing
we cant only build AI robots and luxury cars. people want baseballs and fly swatters and cookin pans and socks and a million other things
100% agree their also gunna automat mining as well
were gunna open coal mines and rare earth mines and
why dont we automated the mining process....
....
....i mean the factorys for automation are gunna kick off
their gunna automate that too
its happioning
its retarded
- 250 sol credit points
enjoy the next 60 years of democrate rule
That's not official information so it's wrong!
That's the factory itself so it's also wrong!
Faggot.
you can use whatever term you'd like, he is still absurdly inconsistent, even his own team doesnt know what the plan is half the time as evidenced by their completely contradictory interviews you stupid kike
corpos do this type of shit all the time, from blatant corruption to corpo espionage. But when its someone else its suddenly unfair kek
Few more jobs and a few less unemployed. Plus still getting products. There's no down side. We would have lost ww2 with jews in charge.
What gives these pundits the right to veto the will of the American people?
yeah, show tax information, how many are sold/delivered and so on. Reading marketing shit is pointless
3000 employees are SUPPORTING manufacturing of chips
We will invest, invest, invest government money
We will make possible
Sounds like bullshit tbqh
I think 3000 clerks are just sitting there doing nothing
you're a service economy running on oil and iron ore
darn right, lumber too. Too bad we're handicapped by hippies and natives who shit anytime you sink a shovel in the ground. Well we were. With the threat of annexation and economic war from the US people have really started to shift their feelings about kowtowing to hippies and natives. We'll see.
Why?
idk I guess I just want to meet a white Uber driver once in my life lol.
Because the boomers dont want to spend their last few years of exit liquidity to invest in it.
It's completely possible and would greatly benefit America in a decade or so.
That's fair and a completely sound goal, but blanket extremely high tariffs make that harder to bring back not easier because so much if the supply chain is imported.
If the goal is to protect/rebuild specific strategic industries then your tariff strategy should also be carefully tailored to those industries
You are full of shit as I have shown retard.
This implies China "competes fairly" which it never has
Unlike America who toppled South American governments over bananas
idk I guess I just want to meet a white Uber driver once in my life lol.
Then you need to kick migrants out, Indians are no more suited for industrial work than Anglo-Saxon or any population you have.
Here in Brazil, factories are mostly manned by pardos, despite we having a fuckton of Japanese who mostly farm and run small business.
The point is that that's not the ONLY manufacturing we outsourced. We've been offshoring everything we could. It's not sustainable.
people want baseballs
Yeah we moved that shit to Costa Rica. The American sport was "near-shored."
Trump's policies are very clearly intended to echo TR's policies with regard to South and Central America, too. Don't be surprised if there are sweetheart deals for that kind of shit.
more useless whining like a faggot
I don't care about anything you have to say. You're a weak excuse for a "man" and I don't fucking care.
China developed its manufacturing because it was a communist country with a centrally planned economy and they could make that happen.
There is no way to do the same thing in the United States without likewise spending trillions of dollars that the government doesn't have. We have a market economy and the markets have made it abundantly clear that there is no incentive to manufacture things here.
i accept your concession
I have shown you the official website that says that high volume production is now underway. No protoypes retard. Sorry faggot but you are simply wrong.
this is one of the most jewish posts ive ever read on this site.
well now thanks to our dear leader trump we also have central planning in our economy
No incentive.
Unless you punish them for leaving American soil. Which is what the Tariffs are supposed to do and these people moan Tariffs bad. Tariffs have always been the economically struggling country's way of gathering any sort of bank.
You're posted a corporate webpage saying they MAY have a prototype, stop using it to support all the stupid claims you've made.
You offshore everything that wasn't profitable for you to make. You kept and expanded all the shit that was profitable. America is still the second biggest manufacturer, china produces about 1.7x as much stuff as you despite having 5 times the population.
Apart from a few critical strategic industries this situation is literally not a problem it's a big part of the reason america is so insanely rich. It's no one's fault but your own that you made sure all the money siphoned up to the top rather than improving american lives
It doesn't matter how high tariffs are, even if the US goes full Juche, people with money will purchase apartments to rent instead of trying to build and run factories if they can.
No it says right here "TSMC Arizona started high-volume semiconductor production on its N4 process technology with a yield rate comparable to its advanced fabs in Taiwan", which in plain English means you're a lying faggot.
Americans never stopped loving they just sent it abroad and kept it in prisons.
i'm sure trump and navaro and lutnick and bessent will be the first to line up to work a minimum wage job making pillow cases in a factory
Is there any data on production capacity other than "very very very high, trust us goys"? Also, why to boast about yield rates if they are using the imported machinery run by imported workers? It should the same by default.
Prove that it is a lie or go and fuck yourself retard.
I'm just right on whatever crap I said, now make me admit you've proven me wrong, or else I MUST be right, I just do.
Can you do something other than cry and bitch on facts you just made up?
Nooo all this stuff you have shown me is a lie because it just has to be because I'm butthurt!
Fuck yourself retard.
its from a quarterly earnings update..if you have ever actually heard on, its nothing but PR circle jerk to stroke the investors dicks while continuing to reach in the pockets. Earnings calls are never representative of whats actually happening, which is by design
Building up manufacturing is a massive undertaking, and a historic change if achieved. It will cost heavily and take a long time.
TSMC publishes production volume data in Taipei, but for some reason they only claim "it's really a lot, trust us, haha" in the US.
Guess they bet enough suckers like you will do their best to attack anyone not agreeing that "very very very very high" is indeed true.
see
Prove your assertions or fuck yourself retard. Nobody has to just take your word for it when you claim that actually the sky is not blue or water is not wet retard.
I want you to be wrong, so you are wrong until you can prove (convince me to admit), haha
I've never seen a single US TSMC chip for sale, despite being able to find offers from really small produces in shitholes like Romania or even DPRK sometimes.
But who rents apartments the working class, that's who goes to work to factories damned monkey, are you a leftist?
You never having seen a lion personally does not mean lions do not exist retard.
Why pay you 30 dollars an hour plus benefits
Because somebody has to buy stuff and people with no money cannot consume. Eventually companies will have to explain to their shareholders why no one buys their cars or other products. Because a tiny minority shareholders cannot support the entire car industry.
“Our results this quarter demonstrate Disney’s creative and financial strength as we advanced the strategic initiatives set in motion over the past two years,” said Robert A. Iger, Chief Executive Officer, The Walt Disney Company. “In fiscal Q1 we saw outstanding box office performance from our studios, which had the top three movies of 2024; we further improved the profitability of our Entertainment DTC streaming businesses; we took an important step to advance ESPN’s digital strategy by adding an ESPN tile on Disney+; and our Experiences segment demonstrated its enduring appeal as we continue investing strategically across the globe. Overall, this quarter proved to be a strong start to the fiscal year, and we remain confident in our strategy for continued growth.”
thewaltdisneycompany.com
Earnings reports are literal blowjobs for investors. They are a PR manipulation and do not represent the actual things going on with a company.
The US is not a centrally planned economy like PRC, it doesn't matter if a decision will hurt the economy as a whole, as long as it bring profits to that investor, he'll invest.
So yes, the US will probably keep "investing" in rent until it's as poor as Brazil.
It doesn't matter if there are no US TSMC chips in the market, they must be real, I wish really hard for them to be real, haha
You're truly something else.
So they are lying to their investors about the factory being online are they? That sounds very illegal. Why are they not all in prison?
Because the people brought in to replace Americans are illiterate, which doesn't bode well for STEM.
They are "technically online" since a least 1 (one) batch was produced, that's the beauty of corporate talk, it's not that openly a lie, it's just a very misguiding statement.
They stated high volume production faggot.
tariffs are the definition of central planning
One batch is legally "high volume production", this is the magic of making subjective claims instead of releasing production data like in the Taipei factories, kek.
TSMC Arizona started high-volume semiconductor production on its N4 process technology with a yield rate comparable to tis advanced fabs in Taiwan
started, high-volume, yield rate comparable etc. Notice how those are vauge terms and dont have hard numbers attached to them...its meanings PR slop. Have never read any PR speak before?
Robot slavery for the win. We should Invest into that
No, they are the definition of "intervening in the economy", what China does is central planning, and it's FAR more than petty stuff like tariffs.
I work my ass off for my family. What my family and I won't be doing is working our asses off for slave wages.
All you have is butthurt headcanon against the actual words of the factory faggot. You are a schizophrenic nobody.
I also don't think the manufacturing spirit has ever fully left America. I'ts always been there but dormant, expecting things to change. Mostly because of the non-existent innovation from cheap-labor countries.
Sorry if I sounded mean, but by central planning I don't mean broad macroeconomic decisions like tariffs, taxes or interest rates. I mean the state directly managing production like in PRC.
Words have objective meanins in PR corporate reports, right? Right?
Not even actual Autism justify being this naive, if production numbers were good they'd have reported them like in Taipei's factories.
Some faggot making shit up in their head has no weight whatsoever faggot. Either support your claims with evidence or fuck off.
Because Americans want to get paid 500x what a typical factory worker in Asia gets paid
Investors dont want to invest.
A Poo works for $5 a day and produces $100 in goods.
A Chink works for $25 a day and produces $115 in goods.
A Yank/Euro works for $120 a day and produces $130 in goods.
The returns just don't work out from an investment scenario. Without extreme tariffs and taxes on imports, domestic industry will always lose out to bugmen.
You know what is also not easy? Rebuilding the system. Trump is going scorched earth. It will take decades to bring back the old system, and that is assuming there is several democrat administrations and Congress majorities in a row.
Americans have become obsessed convenience to the point we willingly chose to be dependent on other countries. We became our own liability.
obsessed with*
Can you try to do something other than "whatever I made up must be true because I called you names"? It's getting boring.
The path of "not being reliant on any other country" is a very dark one.
Made in america is synonymous with low quality control and high prices nowadays. Tariffs are not so much about "bringing manufacturing back" but about lets stop sending money to china for shit we don't need
You have nothing except "yeah well what about my headcanon!?" i.e nothing. i.e you lose. Good day sir.
You've put your money in TSMC, haven't you? Haha. Take it out while you can.
trump is quite literally dictating what we can own and how much of it
"you will own 2 toys and you will pay more for them" there is video of him saying this
The only way you are going to stand up here is if you actually get some evidence faggot. Every post you make lacking it just digs your hole deeper.
You wish, I believe some actual central planning, if well done, would do wonders for the American economy. But it's just tariffs, and he's already back-pedalling.
I the britbong, will only agree when...when... when...
Who cares when you agree, I just don't like you saying lies in the open to cope, it annoys me.
why would they spend billions building new manufacturing facilities only for the next president to cancel all tariffs on day 1 of their presidency (assuming trump doesnt cancel them long before then which is likely) and then get completely smoked by their competitors who still manufacture overseas
I have evidence backing up my claims. You have absolutely nothing. That is the long and short of it faggot.
im not a laissez faire absolutist, i think these tariffs are the single most retarded thing he could have done to the economy
so show your evidence, you have hard numbers in a publicly published report right?
I'm a protection-economist with some free market ideals.
Therefore you are just a neo-con, sorry, but tariffs are the only way to punish the enemy that has been getting away with flooding the markets with shit quality products that end up eating up markets and shelf space for other products to even compete. China is gay and retarded to ally with, you are a chink or have personal stocks that did bad due to the tariffs.
I already have in this thread. Click my ID if you want to highlight my posts.
ah yeah i forgot that china is covering the tariffs. just like how mexico is paying for the wall
Well if that's the case then there'll be global regime changes necessary to accommodate this new business model. Americans need to make up their minds already where they wanna go because the model you are suggesting would require much tighter american control over those manufacturing nations.
I'm not against that, but are Americans prepared for it?
i think porn should be banned oh no im a communist now
And I agree, it has backfired and Trump is already back-pedalling hard. But tariffs are very far from central planning.
Nah you are kike, that's all. You are getting so defensive after being accused, typical. Also China was losing it just a few weeks ago about why its so great to go for them for cheap labor and saying all these big dumb bitch brands use chinese labor and have a made in italy tag or whatever on them.
we don't give a fuck about you chinks is what you don't understand.
Backfired on China? They started begging for deals for Trump to end them, if your enemy is begging you don't let the chokehold go, you crush their windpipe.
dependence is the same as mutual trade
now look up how much in services we are selling to other countries. put down the kool aid for a moment and get your head out of 1950.
We outpace literally every other country by GDP, military spending and capability, and half world reserve currency status. We are anything BUT reliant on other countires.
The first Fab 21 phase 1 module will officially start mass production using 4nm and 5nm-class process technologies. The next Fab 21 phase 2 is expected to follow in 2028 with 3nm-class process technologies. By the decade's end, TSMC expects to build its Fab 21 phase 3, which will produce chips on 2nm-class and 1.6nm-class nodes and their variations with backside power delivery.
So according your source, it isnt yet fully operational and wont be for a long time. The Toms hardware article is also full of PR speak. Particularly of note is "According to unofficial information, TSMC's Fab 21 in Arizona is manufacturing at least three processor models"
There are no hard numbers or anything of substance in that article which
Trump puts exception on tariffs on chps, electronics, parts, machinery...
Trump reduces tariffs in all Chinese goods (today)
China doesn't bother to get in contact in the whole time
Yeah, China is giving up
Miserable excuses like these make me think Trump is right about tariff Samson option. If the only "choice" before you is to lose, then why not bring it all down with you?
You have a fine grasp of the problem. Tariff math right now is like tax math.
You buy so much shit, tomorrow you it costs 100% more so you have now paid 100% in taxes
This is just as much bullshit as
you pay so much in taxes today, if we lower taxes we will lose this much revenue.
In both cases you are assuming people will not change their behavior when faced with these costs.
whatever you say Jaakko your posts reek of judaism
TSMC's Fab 21 in Arizona is manufacturing at least three processor models"
The silicon foundry in my city produces more than a dozen processor models, if it serves as a comparison.
People would do those jobs if they paid enough to have a tolerable quality of life.
Race to the bottom. Technically this benefited the third world immensely. But I do not care. I want America to do better; I don’t care about a textile worker in Sudan. In fact in my opinion the only countries we should trade with are ones that sign a treaty to pay their workers the same and give them the same benefits as us workers. And their factories have to follow the same EPA/Safety standards as the USA
their stance has been the same for a month - no talks until america cancels all tariffs on them. trump and his team have been saying every day that they are in talks with china and then denying their own claims every night saying they hope china reaches out for a deal lmao
>Trump reduces tariffs in all Chinese goods (today)
when did this happen? i havent seen anything about it
If the only "choice" before you is to lose, then why not bring it all down with you?
Sore Looser Suicide Pact is the right answer
If you want to kill yourself, do it alone
Right on the start of the video: bloomberg.com
I would just say...
No talks until cancel on tariffs?
Do we have to remind you that you are aiding Russia and we have embargoed Russa?
Time to Embargo all of Chinese goods from exiting China's lands then.
Total collapse of Chinese economy.
Say that to Trump, maybe he'll stop to give weekly concessions to China, while the Chinese do nothing.
There are 3 different factories being built. 2 are online, with the third to come online in the coming years.
He's too much of a cunt to listen to a random basketweaver on a mongolian imageboard.
Anyway, I bet Trump will fully give up before the mid of the year.
thats old now and he says that every single day. i thought you meant he actually ordered them lower today
Why can't America bring back manufacturing?
jews
just like everything else that sucks about America. When you dig down to the root cause of every societal ill, it's always jews.
145% tariff is effectively an embargo already and even he himself has admitted as much
Ah, sorry if I gave the wrong idea, Trump has admitted he'll bow down soon, but it has not happened yet. People in my work have been betting on this.
Don't forget niggers.
More fucking headcanon
Jews.
Intelligence agencies. (Mega-Jews)
Blackmail Gangstalking Jews (Police Branches.)
Drug trafficking/Human trafficking etc (just international jewry.)
Its all fucking conspirational jewry innit?
yeah he has to. even now he probably fucked the entire midterms for anyone with an R next to their name. americans are pretty lax typically but when you start fucking with their money, things go south quickly
MAGA guys seem to support Trump no matter what, it'll be fun to see how Trump losing the trade war is actually a victory.
indeed sending a bunch of money to Ukraine was not popular
Cuz incels can’t do shit but shit everywhere and ask momma to clean it up. Fucking incels thought manufacturing would come back immediately lol
I don't see you kikes doing anything other than moaning at Trump.
definitely. but the average american guy doesnt really see that direct effect on their checkbook unless theyre looking for it. the personal financial impact of the tariffs will be impossible to ignore
these people still legitimately believe that the country being tariffed is the one responsible for paying the tariffs. they think we are 'raising' money from china rather than just spending 145% more of our own money to the govt
When they have to compete against local production who do not pay tariffs, what do they have to do?
Retard, you need at least 50 years to re-stablish the industries, but that didn't bother the financial sector (jews) when they allowed the companies to leave
They'll probably just sing that "actually, our glorious economy is better than ever, and China will collapse in two weeks"
America doing tariffs is just the worst thing for America you could ever do
China's glorious economy doing it is better than ever though
that only works when we produce these things domestically. it made sense to tariff chinese EVs because they would put tesla out of business overnight if they were sold here. tariffs are basically an admission of defeat, protecting your own business from the competition. we dont produce any of the things we are now effectively tariffing.
Then produce things domestically. The government has basically handed you guaranteed success.
Then produce things domestically.
Give the US some 20 - 30 years of hard work, and it may happen, if the US can import machinery.
The USA exports the machinery.
It's not so easy
When employers think they're fucking entitled to pay 3rd world wages
oh ok youre right sounds easy
The US export some specific types of machinery, but in general the US exports soibeans, oil and ores to PRC.
How the fuck did you even build America in the first place faggot?
1) You are assuming EVERYTHING we import can be produced locally
2) You assume everything we import CAN BE ALREADY produced locally
3) You assume everything we import can be cost effective be made locally
There are sooo fucking many requirement for "Local is better" that its practically a niche market.
Plastic 50C Toys, can be made in china cause then it can be shipped everywhere else in the world
Same 50C toy in USA will cost 3$ and can only be sold to Americans cause the rest of teh world will pay instead of China.
American Manufacturing will Made For Americans, By Americans, At Americans price point...
and that is ASSUMING we can even get raw material without massive tariff already on it.
Trump economy will be soo ass he will either back track, midterms will be a shitshow for republicans and Trump will get Impeached
Yeah specific types of machinery used in factories retard.
No, the US mostly export machinery used at mining and drilling, while importing quite a lot of industrial machinery from PRC.
High End Machinery, that is practically a Niche Market.
There ARE THING that can be done in America, sure, but IT WILL NEVER be on the volume that we wont have a trade deficit cause we are also EXTREMELY CONSUMERISM (and be happy about it cause it means we have the money to do it).
slowly and painfully over 200 years
hes a retarded britcuck lmao he probaly 14
It took 200 years to build a factory? No it didn't faggot. We know.
You see.... some US companies produce some machinery... this means the US exports a lot of industrial machinery, instead of mostly importing.
You're not very bright, are you?
en.wikipedia.org
Haas is one of the largest machine tool builders in the world by total unit volume.
retard.
retard believes that the 6 million unemployed in america can do the same amount of production as 700 million chinese
You cant just bring back manufacturing
"Why?"
You just cant
Globalization isn't a force of nature. It has fallen back many times in the past. It is a cycle.
Sure you can, but it'll be painful, and it'll take at least a couple of decades. It took more than a century to get it the first time.
It took a century to invent the technology. We already have it.
jfc it's not gd 1840 anymore, we don't need to clearcut the wilderness and pave roads and lay rail lines after pest control for the local nuisance grizzly bears, instantaneous no but this centuries shit is a weak point
this
>"Why?"
We dont have the Factories, Will take Years to build
We Dont have the trained labor, Will take Years to train or Have to be imported, so no "American Jobs"
We dont have the access to local supply of raw material required, Most of which are under new tariff now
EXTREMELY UP FRONT COST and INVESTMENT Required by companies that just might not be enticing or sustainable outside of some niche markets
Cost of final good will be higher than its Chinese counter part, meaning the product will only sell in USA, so Limited Market reach, and that is not taking into account the Retaliatory Tariff from other Coutnries that are hurting ALREADY ESTABLISHED AMERICAN MADE PRODUCTS
Care to reply?
Tech + money = factory
You guys are fucked
It'll be already more than I can hope for if the US can rebuild it's rail network to 60s levels.
Noooooo IMPROSSIBRUUUUU!!!!
even getting a permit to open a factory takes a year. thats before you even break ground
It's harder than make one high speed rail-road line, can the US do this much?
Yes if they put their mind to it.
implying you oppose that nigger
Factory work is tedious but it’s not hard labor
Chinese officals have been spotted in talks with administration officials.
21th century
LOL, there's that Spanish lisp...
They can if they want
Now this is a cope
YOU CAN'T BUILD FACTORIES IN AMERICA! IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE!
why
takes 10 years to build not only the factory but also the supply line and infestructure, train your workforce... and you got 4 max years to do it because next presedent will undo everything.
why
because it cheaper and they dont aline with your politics
why
beause no amarican is gunna work 6 hour shifts and get paid in penuts
because no factory in amarica is gunna pay a factory worker 6 figuers if they want to sell their product in the states or abroad
why
because no one wants to be a company nigger.
yeah im not a fan of govt red tape and overregulation
according to whom? wheres the proof? the admin keeps saying talks havent begun yet and china is denying it as well
assemblas parts from factorys abroad...
Already covered the tooling point.