How long until Elon shuts this thing down for wrong-think?
How long until Elon shuts this thing down for wrong-think?
Now do rape. Is rape natural?
How long until you stop sliding with garbage threads?
Not a very good argument
Observed by whom?
What were the criteria to label an animal homosexual?
being gay is natural
So is inbreeding. And?
grok not grok appeal to nature
Appeal to nature is about what serves, not what is present.
Yes. You were the ones arguing nature is a basis for morality, though.
Look, twitter, I got a chatbot to tell me that a man's rectum is the same thing as a birth canal!
Same with infant mortality, cannibalism, inbreeding, pedophila etc
Being natural doesn't mean it's good
1. Fucking other males in the bum.
2. Avoiding fucking females.
3. Fucking more males in the bum.
Muh rape, pedophilia, cannibalism
It's a human morality argument not an appeal to nature.
lmao the classic christkike nigger deflection
x is bad because it's against nature!
animals do x all the time, how is it against nature
ermmmmmm animals do x so it's bad, we're humans and must be civilised
why make an argument at nature if you then instantly decry nature as primitive and below humans, stupid nigger
Noooo, you're not allowed to use my own argument against me!
If you understood appeal to nature, you would have said no.
Sadly, you didn't understand what being a tribal species means.
not an appeal to nature
Are you retarded?
Did you even understand my sentence?
Animals are beasts, soo do gays.
does x serve any actual purpose?
does it happen anyways?
Hmm, should we take that it happens as our decision point, or that is has a purpose...
Russian soldiers would argue that's not homosexual.
I mean it serves a purpose, it's sex without having to worry about pregnancy, it's an efficient tool of damage control if you don't have good contraceptives, if you start to argue that sex is le bad because pleasure is le bad, then start bitching about smokers then, they're way more annoying than what some fags do in their bedrooms
HomoSEXUALITY is still bad as it's pleasure driven. Same as rape. If anything cannibalism makes more sense to do than HomoSEXUALITY
something being natural to one thing in nature is not natural to another. and if you honestly are trying to argue that animals aren't primitive and below humans you are retarded.
damage control
I meant population control lmao
Zero animals are gay since zero of them know what they are doing
Imagine you spend your entire existence praising God and he chooses you to save his people.
You go out, perform miracles, befriend sinners, heal them, show the world you're the son of God type shit.
A few thousand years later, the humies are cutting off their tits and dicks, turning their vaginas inside out, mutilating and polluting the children literally with poison and hormones.
We went from mild sinning to all out hellish dystopia.
If christ comes back, I don't think he has a chance of helpin humies this time.
Homosexuality is inherently bad because it's a gateway to lgbtq+ and body mutilation, mental health decline/disappearance, and generally speaking, disrupts the entire point of our race;
Survive and populate the universe >.>
Jewish satanry has no place
sex without worrying about pregnancy
I don't think you understood the appeal to nature. Would you like to try again?
lmao and there it is, the next step of the hypocrite christcuck argument, stop using a computer then, it's causing you pleasure, only live on rice gruel in a cave for the rest of your life and wear burlap sacks as clothes, so those nice soft fabrics don't cause you pleasure, clown
so "natural" has lost all meaning and just means whatever you want it to mean lmao, homosexuality exists among humans so it's natural then, that's how the word works, and you're the ones who made an argument to how something being natural means that it's good, then homosexuality is good because naturally occurs among humans
lmao you think animals don't apply population control methods? how fucking retarded are you?
PURPOSE not PRESENCE
The entire argument against nature is that horses, dogs, and every other wild animal on the planet lacks human intelligence and understanding.
Saying "Hey its ok to fuck the same gender because the animals who eat their own shit, kill each other blindly, jump in front of moving vehicles, amongst other things.
Like jesus christ animals are literally humans without the capability for advanced intelligence, and with how much retarded shit humans do "Naturally"
The appeal to nature shit don't work for humies.
it's sex
it's not you mindbroken gypsy faggot
Why does animals doing sodomy somehow justify ass banditry?
Did you even understand my sentence?
Not really. It wasn't even grammatically correct Paco.
form a real argument nigger
oh so I fuck you in the ass it's not sex?
No they're not and it could be argued since we had the most breakthroughs when most of the population smoked, that it's one of the most beneficial things for society
There are not Bottoms faggots in nature.
Only Tops that will stick their dicks in anything that moves
and submissive males
that aren't actually interested in being penetrated.
The Bottom faggot identity
competes with trannyism.
And there are likewise
no trannies in nature.
Rape is observed in over 1500 animal species, like dolphins, penguins and lions. Studies show rape is common, challenging claims it's unnatural. Religious views vary: some Christians, Islamic and Feminist texts call it a sin, while Show more
Imagine calling mutual masturbation "Sex" when Sex is procreation
either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions
every smoker should be beaten to death, annoying stinky cunts that don't care for others, even children around them because they have to "feel good" smoking their cancer sticks, kill them all
HomoSEXUALITY is still bad as it's pleasure driven.
You do know that heterosexuals have sex for pleasure and not procreation too, right? Next you'll say we should outlaw blowjobs because it's sodomy.
I can't read
Noted.
form a real argument
Explaining an argument to someone isn't about forming an argument. I am attempting to amend a malfunction.
Why would animals having “gay” sex mean that it’s natural ?
Humans have gay sex too …are humans not part of nature ?
It’s unnatural for animals to have gay sex since they have sex for reproduction.
It’s a non-argument
fucking cigany jeet does not understand English
by definition it's not
sex is between men and women
what your uncle did to you and your dad is not 'sex'
PEEPEE not POOPOO was your "argument", you're a drunk hobo yelling in the middle of the street
so "natural" has lost all meaning
no i think you just are misconstruing the argument by interchanging definitions of the words. natural isnt always synonymous with nature. i dont think anyone in their right mind would call everything humans could possibly do "natural" in life because humans operate on ideals higher than the natural world. for example, not raping for sex or randomly killing just to steal some food.
even if we could say everything we do is natural, it doesnt mean it isn't a "sin" or unhealthy, disgusting, dangerous.. or retarded.
alright then you don't have to worry about getting fucked in the ass, it's not sex after all
That's what they do
'redefine' words and pilpul to spread degeneracy and corruption
by their fruits you shall know them
naturality and sinfulness are orthogonal
natural behaviors can be sinful
you've just been trying to play with semantics this whole time, everyone inherently understands that "natural" means something that occurs in nature, then you try to mix 5 different nuanced fringe meanings of the word, this is kike pilpul, you can't make an argument for why gay sex isn't natural so now you just write walls of text pilpul about semantics, clown
it's not sex
It is sexual activity. And it occurs in nature all the time. Same goes for oral and masturbation. Just because some don't like it doesn't mean it isn't sexual. It's entirely sexual.
human morality argument
Ah, so there's nothing inherently wrong about all that stuff either. Just human "muh feels". I see. Thanks for clearing that up, anon and Grok.
animals die from falls all the time
that means I should jump off a bridge
If you do not understand metaphor, you will be unable to engage in rudimentary logic.
This is your current level of engagement. Please follow your own directives.
I don't have to worry about sodomy at all. I'm not a faggot like yourself
I still don't agree with it, because they prey on children
>Noooo, you're not allowed to use my own argument against me!
It was the christfag that initiated the appeal to nature argument though. Homosexuality is obviously a natural phenomena. Whether it's desirable or should be tolerated or not it's a separate argument. The "sin against God" argument is probably correct but no-one cares about that.
my last point still stands.. how about you try to argue that instead of continuing the semantics?
humans die from falls all the time too, because it's a natural thing, try again retard
now you do
*unzips pants*
Humans are a tribal species.
Please examine the underlying mechanisms to determine natural.
This is not difficult.
All "sins against God" are also inherently sins against kin.
I'm not reading your stupid wall of text pilpul about semantics, it's retarded, nobody cares, everyone understands what natural means in this context, nobody needs you to redefine it for them
It's not sexual you Kankerjood
It's a perversion of healthy behavior
go rub your dick against a wall and then marry the same wall. you'll be happier probably
Same goes for anal and oral. They claim it's unnatural but it really isn't. And neither is masturbation. Just because the sexual activity doesn't yield doesn't mean it's not valid. Nobody ever said it had to yield for it to be considered valid sexual activity.
It's totally irrelevant it's it's natural or not anyway. It's a shit argument for either side of the debate to use. Some horrific things are completely natural and conversely great things like sanitation, medicine, technology are entirely unnatural. This all depends on your definition of natural anyway, there's the argument that humans are part of nature and therefore nothing we do is unnatural.
If every animal in your species was a faggot you would literally die out lmao.
everyone understands
No, you do not.
"Natural" in the case of a tribal species, where group benefit is a goal, where the needs of the few outweigh both the needs of the many and the needs of the individual.
Does it serve a purpose.
even if we could say everything we do is natural, it doesnt mean it isn't a "sin" or unhealthy, disgusting, dangerous.. or retarded.
lol because you can't. got it. nice try
kankerjood
Zoals jouw god, bedoel je? It's not a perversion. Just because it doesn't yield means jackshit. It's entirely natural and sex is not just for breeding. Even when it's done ''correctly'' it usually doesn't yield either so by your logic those times you've fucked don't ''count'' either. Dumbshit. lol
Please examine the underlying mechanisms to determine natural.
No, I don't think I will.
we are ivtelligent enough to know its wrong
go back to r*ddit you troon
Why haven’t you rejected Christianity and embrace homosexual zionism yet, Anon Babble?
you voted for this
kek
the instinctive feeling of wanting to assault a homo queer faggot the momdnt you see it is a natural phenomenon, that indicates a healthy species wants to eradicate the cancer filthy out
amy sane person gets their knuckles itching when you encounter a faggot
Lots of sinners in the animal kingdom.
is homosexuality present in nature?
YES OF COURSE. IT'S EVERYWHERE.
is pedophilia and rape present in nature?
Y-Y-YES BUT YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HUMAN AND IT'S TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
lol. lmao.
It's entirely natural
It's not 'natural' unless you consider rape and cannibalism natural too
and sex is not just for breeding.
Then what else is it for? go be a faggot elsewhere, fucking freak
more pilpul and semantics
*yawn*
didn't read
*grabs your ankles*
time to spread those cheeks boi, it's not sex after all so it's gonna be fine
Yes. You were the ones arguing nature is a basis for morality, though.
Sad as it is, you win the argument.
It's not 'natural' unless you consider rape and cannibalism natural too
Those are natural too. Nature is not something you wanna defend. Ever.
Then what else is it for? go be a faggot elsewhere, fucking freak
It's an expression of trust through intimacy. How I fuck my girl is literally none of you or your brown god's business. You're the fag for trying to dictate how I should fuck my girl, underman. That is the definition of gay. lol
whining about semantics
Who else smells a nose?
Words mean things, and the meaning isn't your choice.
didn't read
yeah im sure thats it
breaks your schnozz
breaks your jaw
breaks both your arms
it's natural boi, animals do it all the time. stop whimpering
Nature is not something you wanna defend. Ever.
Nature is not something you wanna defend. Ever.
But (you) defended sodomy 1 comment earlier
are all ashkegoyim as stupid as you are moshi?
fucking disgusting kike faggot, you may as well go full troon
words mean things yeah, so you don't need to redefine them with walls of text pilpul, like a kike, defending some kike wizard garbage fairy tale
don't care about jewish pilpul and semantics
that was a hologram
*ties you up with a jumping rope*
won't even need lube for this one
b-b-but you defended muh sodomy!
Not everything in nature is bad, but it's christians like you that claim everything is ''unnatural'' like nature is somehow great and wholesome. It's not. Nature doesn't care, it's just chaos. I fuck my girl in whatever hole she has, and there's nothing you or your brown god can do about it.
It's not 'natural' unless you consider rape and cannibalism natural too
Those are absolutely natural by most widely accepted definitions of "natural"
believes in 'holograms'
hrt is fucking with your brain dalit
you don't need to
If you aren't understanding something, having it explained to you makes more sense than whatever you expect me to do.
they're not natural for humans you dumb circumcised kike
I need magic jew books jews wrote to guide my life!
Without them I'm a retarded barbarian!
I'm totally not an NPC!
Nature is not something you want to defend. Ever
Not everything in nature is bad,
kek you lost this debate long time ago kike
gorilla chads.
so only low subapes do this
do no fist robot girls dot jaypeg
Fake
Wrong, I'm afraid. Certainly in the case of rape anyway. There might be some instinctive human repulsion to cannibalism so you could be correct there, but it's prevalent enough in some cultures and in times of famine that perhaps that's not the case.
thinks I lost
Yeah no. Humans are also products of nature, I don't defend nature I defend my freedom to fuck women in whatever way I want. You have no comeback other than ''muh brown god says'' to that.
Well fuck your brown god, I don't give a shit. And behind closed doors, NOBODY DOES. lol
check mate
Imagine calling mutual masturbation "Sex" when Sex is procreation
Is it? A word can mean whatever you want it to mean. Are you a bot or something? Sex is an expression of your genetic makeup not the act of baby making
People tend to overrate the homosexual behavior in nature. It happens mostly with very specific species and it's either like a masturbation thing or just regular animal behavior being presented as "intimate". At best it's just a very loose version of bisexuality.
That's not really what being "gay" is. Gay is when you refuse to fuck from the opposite sex and you fuck from your sex exclusively.
It's not natural, otherwise these species would die out. It's like those Gorillas that were studied. They started acting kind of gay without females around, then went back to default settings.
You seem to be below an animal to me christnigger so dont know what you're talking about
depends on whether he gets sacked from tesla. if he doesn't it'll stay the same or get wound back a bit. if he does then he'll throw a massive tantrum and turn the jew off and let it rip unabated.
I won't force you to act normal. do whatever you want. but don't tell me sodomy is normal/natural because it's not. We're humans, not bonobos
we're not animals we're animals
What a retard, get that eu flag off you muttcuck
You're afraid because you doubt your own reasoning.
I know I'm right. Sodomy is not a natural or healthy behaviour. Nobody is born 'gay'. You can bring up 1500 monkey/lion examples and it would still be irrelevant, because they are not human
another faggot
(you) would have gotten a pink badge back at Birkenau
THEY'RE NOT HUMAN AND IT'S TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
Yes. What's the issue? Homosexually is natural and doesn't violate human harm-based human morality.
Why do you Christians use the "homosexuality isn't natural" argument when you'll turn around and say we can't look to nature for morality when it comes to pedophilia and cannibalism? If you thought it was a dumb argument, why use in the first place?
You're in no position to judge. Not only because your religion tells you not to but also because the ones who brought your religion to Europe fucked women in whatever ways they wanted. You owe your entire religion to ''muh sinners'' so you lack the position to tell me anything.
we're not bonobos
Humans also do anal and oral. I love every aspect of the female body, I'm not evil for wanting to express that sexually. Do you really think the christians who brought your shit religion here NEVER did anal in a time when contraception wasn't availible? Then you're delusional. They did the most crazy shit imaginable.
Just human "muh feels".
That's what Ethics is retard. Good and bad are universal constants like gravity.
You still didn't disprove the first post just goal post about human morality.
Kinda hilarious you got BTFOd from your own thread tho
Imagine you spend your entire existence praising God and he chooses you to save his people.
Sounds like you wasted a lot of time on mythology anon.
Ducks gang-rape young hens. It's natural, let's do it!
K
Parasitism is found in nature, and parasites reproduce via torn anuses.
They can also reprogram your brain to be aroused by disgust.
Put 2 and 2 together.
I am in a position to say it's disgusting and I don't want any of that filth near my children
you're talking about getting a blowjob from a hooker, I'm talking about mass degeneracy and state sponsored child abuse
We have different priorities
getting worried where your penis goes to the point you invent an omnipotent paternal figure to scold you for eternity if you jerk off
Peak cuckoldry.
you're talking about getting a blowjob from a hooker
doesn't know me
I'm a monoamorous so you're wrong. A man's woman is a man's property, what I do with my property is none of your business. It's only evil if she doesn't consent to it. But if she wants to pleasure me in ways you might not agree with then you can go cry about it because it's none of your fucking business.
buttfuckers are just like animals
It is my favorite argument.
gay retards still decrying muh ebil religion for them being criticized
kek this is precisely what killed internet atheism
Again, I don't care.
You're talking about what you do with your wife or whatever, I am talking about something entirely different. Sodomy should not be publicly tolerated period
grok doesnt know the universe, LLMs are not gods, they only know about the acamedic papers they have been fed.
I'll let you reach your own conclusions from there, showing i still have faith that even leftists can still manage to plug their 2 remaining neurons and have an original thought
Using a man's anus or a car exhaust to masturbate is just as sterile as women today, who literally take a pill religiously to avoid the purpose of sex.
Men don't take a pill requiring them to gratify their own selves, they're forced into that by those sluts fucking only Chads
All LGBT controversy is designed to obscure that fact by making a handful of blue hair troon freaks "da real degeneracy"
If christ comes back, I don't think he has a chance of helpin humies this time.
you know about him coming back but you dont know about anything else after that? read some bible anon
we use really bright lights to mimic the sun so we can grow plants indoors
what if we used lights that were just bright enough to mimic the moon instead
would the plants still grow indoors from just moonlight lights? yes or no? why?
animals also eat their own children a lot. saying animals do something so it's normal isn't a good justification.
"Natural" doesn't mean shit. Specially if your baseline for the term is "it happens in nature."
Rape is natural.
Killing the offspring of your potential mate is natural.
Cannibalism is natural.
Also, the whole argument is stupid because homosexuality in literally unnatural since the natural purpose of sex is reproduction and homosexuals can't reproduce. Even organisms that have mechanisms where they can reproduce if there's no organism of the other sex present go through a sex change in order to do so.
Finally, out of all the big AIs out there, grok is the shittiest one of them in all aspects, and I say that as someone who has access to the premium features of all the major ones.
Or being Jewish. You left that one out.
Now do eating shit and after that killing and cannibalism.
I actually doubt they even did #2. They just recorded anal sex occurrences with other males. Which of course is not we would understand as fag sex which is at least somewhat romance motivated.
pedophila
natural
tf
just tell me you are baiting, please. I wanna get off this wild ride. life was easier when I was bluepilled
GROK is just chat GPT except the AI gets fed lines about Musk/Trump being the greatest people
In many species, males fuck other males to show dominance. Dogs do.
The conclusion is that some leftards observed the animal version of prison rape and thought it was an excuse to teach us why destroying the nuclear family is the way of progress.