People who work full time should be able to afford basic necessities

People who work full time should be able to afford basic necessities

How on earth do rightoids disagree with this?

McDonalds isn't supposed to be a livable wage unless you're a manager or something. You are supposed to be going to school or starting a business while McDonalds supports you.

because its anti semitic to agree with this

You're the one raising their costs under retarded pretexts though.

Rightoids didn't fuck over food and energy pricing, your green nonsense and Ukraine war did.

Rightoids didn't fuck over housing prices, your migration and fake jobs did.

how the fuck do you do either of those if you cant even pay rent with a mcdonalds wage?

Because asking corporations to actually give their fair share = communism in the minds of amerimutts

I worked these jobs as a 15-17 year old. It fucking sucked. Lots of 30+ year old coworkers of mine were cool as fuck though

Tucker carlson said all the news b4 u

You just repeated his teleprompter

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Rent control is a way to achieve this. Rent should be so cheap that a person can exist working 30 hours a week, so cheap that they can retire someday.

You are supposed to be going to school or starting a business while McDonalds supports you.

how is it going to support you if it is not a livable wage

Lol he triggered some retards here bud. Obviously you mean it's a stepping stone job. You do it part-time while you're starting something else up to bring an extra income. Usually while you're young and still living at home. Sorry everyone is fucking retarded

basic necessities

just study full time then work full time and sleep 2 hours and reincarnate as fast food manager

if white libfags cared so much about "muh living wage", they would wholeheartedly support deporting all illegal shitskins. reduce the supply of labor, companies are forced to raise wages. but the only thing they care about more than being parasitic losers is helping kikes replace whites. so looks like you're gonna be a wagecuck forever

the jewishness of this post is so great that i might just become the second incarnation of hitler himself right now

LTV is false. Just because sweated for hours digging a hole in the woods doesn't mean you deserve anything. Your labor is trivial to us, even if it's not to you.

Yeah no shit it's not supposed to be a long term livable job so why does the modern job market continue to force more and more people to end up in dead end service jobs like that every year?

I should get college grad or skilled tradie money for a child's job.

Lol. Lmao.

So why would anyone ever work at McDonald's you disgusting kike?

You shoot kikes

But then why build apartments if there is no money to be made? Rent is supposed to be affordable because enough is being built.

It's expensive because your country is flooded with immigrants who will accept lower living conditions. They will cram 4 people into a space that used to be acceptable to 2 people.

Get rid of the immigrants and wages rise and rents fall.

Fast-food jobs are for teenagers to earn cigarette and gas money.

You live with 6 other dudes in a one bedroom apartment of course
The immigrants are fine living like that, why are you so entitled?

In most places where you can get a 100k a year job its not even enough to cover all that minus taxes and with your take home anymore. That's the actual problem. There is no way someone making 30k can even afford their own rental on my city. You are renting a room living with multiple house and roommates to afford rent. You won't understand unless you are living it. Shits completely fucked now even if employed with what was considered a high pay 30 years ago.

I can hear this poster rubbing pennies together as he wrote this

For one, why shouldn't the employees of the company be the shareholders of the company?

The only way entry level jobs are going to provide a livable wage is if you decrease the supply of labor by stopping both legal and illegal immigration who end up taking these jobs. Ideally these jobs should be temporary and given to teenagers as well as a safety net for "failures" / ex-felons rather then letting them subsist on welfare.

Implying that we want you to live.

Every job should be a livable wage. It isn’t 1956 anymore boomer

McDonalds isn't supposed to be a livable wage unless you're a manager or something.

the (((student economy))) is behind this, any job that isn't part-time (40 hours a week) you should have enough to rent, eat and buy commodities in order to stimulate the economy, it's basic economic sustainability

Alright, but then it means I should be able to buy multiple houses with my job.
Or you want to put working at fast food on the same level as being a doctor?

The labor theory of value is retarded commie nonsense. I spent all day writing poetry so I deserve everything I need to live. The inverse is even dumber; Well this lithography machine did all the work so these microchips have almost no value to them.

You will never succeed in passing off your commie crap.

How on earth do rightoids disagree with this?

We could all be rich if our Politicians would just share their stock trades with us based on insider information.
I don't get why they're so stingy.

isn't supposed

m8, they make billions of dollars in profit every year. What the fuck are you trying to say?

They are white and privileged. They should be gunned down from behind like that CEO.

Probably a harder job

Because ideally you SHOULDN'T be working at McDonald's past your teenage years (unless you are a manager).
The lack of factory jobs is pushing people to stay in those "teenage jobs" longer than intended.
Bring back the factories, and people won't be asking 15+$/h for working at McDonald's

Jobs supporting people only became an issue when you flooded the country with immigrants. Now those excess jobs being taken by teenagers are no longer desired by teenagers because a summer job isn’t going to buy them a car and we are left demanding more for the mexicans doing it

wasnt the whole original point of fast food preparation that even the biggest retard can do it?

I think it was originally an entry level job for teenagers.
In the 50s and 60s that is.
Today the absolute state of amerimutt mongrel retards is of course so terrible that the regular mystery meat teen could never do that sorta work and you need to get the "educated" mutts to do it.

So now there is the confusion that this is somehow a standard full time job, which it isn't.
It was a job separated into multiple shifts between teenagers who would do it to get some extra cash.

while McDonalds supports you.

supports you how? if you cant even afford to pay rent how the fuck would you have time to go to school

How on earth do rightoids disagree with this?

People they hate other people. That's it. That's all there is to it. There are hateful of others and don't consider the idea that a human being should live a good life.

HAA HAAA POOR WHITES DONT OWN SHIT ANY MORE HAAAA HAAA GO WORK RETAIL AND OR FOOD SERVICE YOU ETERNALLY POOR DUMB FUCK VICTIMS.

I WILL NEVER HAVE TO DO ANY OF THIS DEGRADING SHIT BECAUSE MY FAMILY LOVED ME ENOUGH TO MKE SURE I DIDNT TURN OUT LIKE YOU.

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Because ideally you SHOULDN'T be working at McDonald's past your teenage years (unless you are a manager).

The lack of factory jobs is pushing people to stay in those "teenage jobs" longer than intended.

Bring back the factories, and people won't be asking 15+$/h for working at McDonald's

Have to take everything in context though, with AI , many humans and jobs that were considered important are now the new "Burger flippers" when comparing their jobs to AI.

I don't know all the answers and I know most people don't either, but it's going to get messy as more sectors are taken over by AI and automation.

I work 40 hrs a week, I should (but don't) be able to afford basic necessities. Whether working for McDonald's, amazon, pnc bank, whatever. That is the social contract. Why can't you retarded republicans/democrats understand this? Stop making us poor with you shit policies/beliefs/high taxes!

Yeah no, you can either get ahead or get fucked and trampled on for not trying hard enough. If you want a hand out go to a country that offers them.

This thread boils down to one thing:

if everyone can earn money to pay for a house, a car and a family just by simply flipping burgers then how am i supposed to impress my surroundings and feel validated when i went to college and got a degree to feel better about myself

They figured out what work was

Is not the money they are valuable individuals I rather see them paint dildos than see them do a meaningless job that will kill them

When I was a kid mcdonalds was a place teenagers got a part time job for beer money. No one ever expected to make a living on it because no one would pay that much for burgers.

The next major hot thing after this AI boom will be the robotics boom.

We're all going to have to make our own Skynets bro and Terminators if we want to remain competitive. Maybe im being silly, but this will probably be somewhat true in 20-30 years.

Some of you flat out were always meant to be poor and that’s just your lot in life. Stop bitching and get back to work bagging my fucking burger. The serf class really needs to learn to act like their station. Liberal Democratic values are over. Unions are over. Good.

Now the actually strong will lead the actual weak.

These unspoken rules of society and economics are dumb

Low self worth

Yes and none of that has anything to do with poor under skilled white labor. Thank god. Cut the dead weight out of the economic gene pool I say.

Your taxes are pretty low

Fuck you faggot! I wasn't put on this planet to slave away at work til I die. I'm not asking for a mcmansion. If I want to do the bare minimum, I should be able to live comfortably. My generation is called slackers because we know how retarded the rat race was. Go have you heartattack in your office, I'll be enjoying life slacking off!

Who has ever disagreed with that? No rightwinger thinks that you should have so many foreigners in your country that drive down the labour price so much that your situation occurs.

Property taxes are a bitch in a blue state....

No we should subsidize the megacorps by filling the gap between their wages and being able to survive

Don’t bother trying to rationalize with a serf, anon.
He has “bills” to worry about
Uh, yes you were or you wouldn’t already have naturally slotted yourself into that social space. You better get real, serf.

They are still well above the laffer limit.

And to be fair your generation has nothing because you really are that lazy and entitled. You haven’t done a single thing that’s worth any of the shit you “expect”

It's not that the burger flipper should be getting paid more, it's that the cost of living is completely out of control

Cuckservatives will do anything to avoid paying a few cents more on taxes that they will just back refunded for in February purely to spite the lower class

There's different factors at play, it's not all that simple. How free is our "Free markets", how bad is the regulatory capture, how bad is favorable gov contracts, subsidies, FED monetary policy. The system as a whole is moving towards more control and centralization, and small businesses can get crushed by things like Tariffs or Gov policies while Big corporations get exemptions and carveouts because of lobbyists.
So this one-dimensional way of saying "Work harder faggot" really misses out on the bigger picture.

A drone calling a serf "slave"....

Oh, the irony....

Anyone who has this much time to write out that much just to essentially say “I don’t have a work ethic or discipline so I will blame others for my not having shit of my own” is coping for their own lack of ability to make a fucking real paycheck.

People need to drop the idea that anyone can live anywhere.
If you can't get a job that supports you in the city you want to live in then you honestly don't deserve to live there. Even if you grew up in the area, something went wrong that didn't prepare for what's necessary to stay.

If your getting much of a tax refund, you are lower class.

He can. He just doesn't spend his money intelligently, which is his problem, and not anyone else's.

I’m sorry but you will rent until you die and pay people like me for the privilege. Speaking of “opinion disregarded”, lol.

Sucks to suck, serf.

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questionthread

Isn't the reason these jobs don't cover the basics is that were bringing in millions of shitskins to undercut the wages? In an isolationist, nationalist country we wouldn't have the problem.

the fact that they can't just shows how rigged the market really. Too many parasites living off the State with fake jobs and welfare. Wagies can't compete with them for basic food and shelter.

The real reason why those jobs don’t cover basic expenses is because it’s nigger work….anyone working in those jobs obviously is some kind of nigger and such you should just learn to treat them like it. A nigger is a nigger is a nigger.

No, that's the reality and it's pinching the middle class. Today's system is in the wealth extraction phase, higher taxes, tariffs, interest on debt is what a trillion now?
In fact you sound like some type of Mike Rowe impersonator who says that "Everything is great, just work harder faggot" while wealth inequality gets worse.

You can ignore reality, but no the consequences of ignoring reality. I trade stocks, so I'm all too aware that what's good for me holding long positions or fart coin, is bad for mainstreet because you just devalue the currency in favor of propping up assets.

It is communism in mind of amerimuts.

They're partially right, because method used to execute that are semi socialistic and problem with than is the way who executes what and if he gets "lobbied hard".

I don't understand the point of a job existing if it can't cover basic needs.

Nah you’re just a lazy fucking complainer with more time to bitch about your lack of money than you have time to make any fucking money. Quit being a leech too.
Nigger who gives a flat fuck about a “middle class? That’s poor people dream shit. Ahahahahaha

Bait thread

The solution to this issue is part of a constellation of solutions that would solve for many problems facing the US. Round up and deport or kill all nonwhites in the US and wages will go up, prices will go down, and there will finally be enough living space here for Americans. Robots can pick crops, houses can be 3D printed out of concrete and finished out however the owner wants, and loaning money at interest above 0.5% must be banned.
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just do things

Yes you will work minimum wage with no promotions for 10 years straight but just do things

Yes I got to where I was in a still properly functioning job market and therefore can't fathom going above and beyond no longer being good enough to earn a secure living

Shut the fuck up and bag my fucking burger. You aren’t here to think. You are here to make money for people smart enough to think.

Not my problem serf, maybe blame your parents for not preparing you for life. You’re lazy and your parents didn’t teach you a work ethic

The simple answer is rich whites and Jews don’t want blacks and browns to get a leg up and live next to them in their oasis communities and gaslight them by saying unskilled (but essential according to covid era experts) is for high school students and that you should go learn to code or something. That’s what Trump meant by black jobs.

its simple. stop allowing immigrants and all those cheap new apartments and suburbs they build for africans, give those to young natives trying to get their start in life

Have a McFucking wonderful day bitch

Thanks Ranjesh for protecting our borgers

Nigger who gives a flat fuck about a “middle class? That’s poor people dream shit. Ahahahahaha

Somehow you think you are "In da big club"..
Man your ass is going down with us lol.

Work for my multi million company until you finally have the chance to get a full high paying job, goy

Lmao.
Kys.

All those apartments are being built to line the pockets of a few who can start those projects for passive income. It doesn’t matter if the person renting a unit is a subsaharan African or an Alien from the planet X39.

dont forget about dorms

Unskilled white labor in this thread should learn their place in the world and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

You don’t have a pot to piss in for reason nor will you ever.

I'm not supposed to be doing shit and you can go fuck yourself, normie

They're generally misanthropic and can't ever see themselves needing to work fast food to sustain themselves.

We're all supposed to he managers, college educated, or business owners? You need fast food workers all week. Preferably enough to keep it running 24/7.

im a frustrated leech on my family boo hooo boo hooo

Go get a real job.

We're just going to take your stuff. You'll find your life of being a gay little corporate suck up didn't prepare you for what comes next.

Christcucks aren't right-wing. Right-wing means capitalism and christcucks are feudalists.

The market determines wages.
The market is the person working the job.
The person working the job should be determining how much they get paid for it, not the person trying to cheap and get something for nothing.

So, yes, in right-wing economic theory, everyone who works deserve a wage that will keep them alive. That pay is up for the worker/laborer/person doing the heavy lifting the shareholder is too weak and lazy to do.. to decide... Christcucks fuck this up for their jewish paymasters to try and cheapen out everyone. Then pretend this is how free markets work, when it's not the case at all.

Everyone deserves a raise.
Everyone who works deserves to keep what they earn.
Everyone who works have a right to determine what they work for.

Why anyone have to subsidize you If you just paint grass in green just because you no skill trash and have to be employed somewhere?

No, you’re going to go back to fucking work and hope I don’t arbitrarily evict you because I don’t like the way you look. What are you going to realistically do again? Seeth quietly while I take your fucking money.

You're the one raising their costs under retarded pretexts though.

Fake and gay

Rightoids didn't fuck over food and energy pricing, your green nonsense and Ukraine war did.

Rightoids have been invading the middle east to steal their oil for decades and subsidizing the loser Rightoids farmers in the first world for decades instead of buying cheap from third world countries so they are not so fucking poor and try to move to the US.

Ukraine war is a Rightoid war started by Rightoid's top leader and wet dream daddy Putin.

Rightoids didn't fuck over housing prices, your migration and fake jobs did.

Rightoids war for oil and regime change to serve Israel in the middle east and Africa created the migration. Subsidizing the loser Rightoids farmers in the first world took the jobs and the money from the thirdies forcing them to migrate. Just buy the fucking Venezuelan cheap Oil instead of trying to do "clean coal" and buy cheap food from farmers in Latin America and you'll have less migration.

Now Rightoids are destroying the economy trying to bring back cheap factory jobs from the asians to give them to their loser friends in the rust belt. Disgusting DEI program for Rightoids losers that can't compete and need a safe space created by daddy Trump and big goverment.

faggot gibberish

That’s a lot of typing just to say you’re just a poor.

They just want fucking slave labor. The whole point of a job is to cover what you need to live. Otherwise there's no fucking point.

will libtards ever realize that its their inane policies that caused the cost of living to rise? or will will they just go "wHy R rigHtoiDz so EviL n dUmb" forever?

Anyone that replies seriously to this seething jeet/chink incel is retarded

Get back to work faggot. Bag the fucking burger and stop bitching

I’m whtier than you and how I can prove that is that I have steady income and own property while you seeth and bitch about rent while working a McJob. Get owned.

Would you like spit on that patty, sir?

they should suck my dick (if i want them to) since i made better decisions with my life or my family did before me

Ah yes, and being a worthless leeching faggot that posts ineffectual violent fantasies on the internet has surely prepared you for what needs to be done.

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Being marginally "better" than a mcdonalds employee is the only thing conservatives have going on in their lives

This. Everyone on here is trolling. Either you live real life in reality and understand these real-world issues -- or they are terminally online trolls looking to piss off as much people as they can.

Poors really be like “I’ll get u back with passive aggressive tantrums” while they worry about bills.

AHAHAHAHHAHHA. There’s a reason why you’re stuck and why you will never do shit.

I see you want some special sauce on your burger. Lmao faggot

From each according to his ability to each according to his need.

if the higher ups cared about the communities their franchises serve, they could work something out. but they don't. because you're just numbers on a spreadsheet to them.

They want you poor, hateful, afraid, and easy to control.

Post your paystub, christnigger.

Hey man what’s it like never having enough money to even enter the stock market? I bet you don’t have a passive form of income you fucking dumb loser. Ahahahahh

Mcjobs are half the jobs in this fucking joke of a country. So you basically have half the population AND an unlimited stream of illegal slaves competing with teenagers for a job that's supposed to uplift them and help them start their life
I hope a nigger sucker punches you and you die

You'll do nothing. You have to ask permission from enforcement authorities to kindly do what you ask, because you have never actually wielded power in your life.

Pweeease mistaw officaw evict this tenant before he bashes in my goofy fucking head with a hammaw

Pay

Stub

Now

Christ

Nigger.

Are you living with mommy? Is that why you're shit posting online and baiting?

Get a job, christ nigger.

I literally don't even have to work anymore but you go off king.

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Imagine being forced to shitpost in this cesspool for minimum wage 8+ hours a day

No wonder you can see watch this insect having a mental breakdown in real time

Meanwhile every office job faggot brags he works 2 hours a week for nearly 6 figures but also it's because he's better and more capable than everyone else

Americans should all just be exterminated honestly, bunch of disgusting psychopathic faggots

Anons like the one you're replying to live with mommy and have neetbux.

It thinks it's trolling. Negative attention is the only attention christ nigger trolls get.

Why?

Excuse me but it’s not a troll to point out that you guys are mostly all entitled lazy fucking neets with no work ethic…that’s not some troll. Just like it’s not some “troll” to say that the reason why you are poor is partly because your parents didn’t give a shit enough or that you didn’t give a shit enough to form a real work ethic.

That’s their fault and your fault. Not mine.

This. Guess his mommy or daddy never gave him enough attention lmao. Poor guy

yes please let the normies force government ordered price freezes ect. the overweight comfy families comfy cozy incapable of surviving without society will realize how little society actually exists when money stops being valuable

It's quite wonderful to see how rapidly murrican rightoids are just fostering the conditions of total societal collapse on the economic side of things. Leftoids did a great job at destroying the social fabric of american society, and now rightoids just do a final rugpull on the working class of that nation and openly push for the american people to be reduced into wage slaves for amazon lmao.

I expect to see a civil war/revolution in USA within 3 decades if shit keeps going down this path. Historically people do not take it lightly when they realize that they cannot even attain the same living standards that their parents provided them when they were growing up, no matter what they do.

This attitude is ultimately why there is no white racial solidarity in America. Because so many white people are psychopathic retards like this. We want to see you and your families get killed by niggers.

I don’t associate with white niggers and guess what you are mr poverty? You aren’t white enough for me because you lack the brains and or work ethic.

What’s the difference between any of you in this thread and actual niggers? Just the color of your skin. You’re all serfs in my eyes. You are all at the same level to me. Don’t worry!

You're a real LinkedIn combat veteran. My god you have so many Work Ethic medals. You are just the goodest little boy.

Stop crying and do some actual fucking work for once in your useless fucking life. Earn an income. Make something worth a fuck. Bet you won’t due to a lack of work ethic and or skills.

Jew thread poisoning the well

Everyone right votes for less taxes for a reason. They’re know they need to save money because Jews pay less and charge more

Fuck OP

I’m whiter than you but you can blame the kikes all you want for the cope. I’m sure it’ll make you feel better for like 30 seconds.

My family is all in the defense industry and even has a rocket scientist whom I descend from. I don't bother to work or take part in society because I am better than you and value my time, unlike you who spends hours seething about poorer white people existing while much poorer brown people destroy his entire civilization mr 25 posts by this ID

How long you do something is irrelevant.
What matters is the value your work provides.
Flipping burgers all day does not produce the same value as a software engineer, so no, you don't deserve the same things.

Excuse me but it’s not a troll to point out that you guys are mostly all entitled lazy fucking neets with no work ethic…t

Oh so you’re one of those deadbeats that happens when you have rich liberal parents. Got it. Cool story, leech.

I’m sure you will “earn” that inheritance ahahahahhaha

This vile concept is only possible to put into practice because mass immigration is used to suppresses wages. McDonalds would have no choice but to offer a livable wage if they didn't lobby our traitorous governments to let them important a billion desperate Pajeets willing to put up with such abuse.

The sortware engineering sitting in the a/c sending emails deserves free slave labor to get him food so he can find new ways to make the software completely unusable.

Anyone can afford to live on full time minimum wage. They just waste all of their money on weed, toys, games and uber eats, then cry about boomers online.

Your brain is suffering a lot of inflammation for whatever reason and you're making it worse by indulging in the misery

Stop eating seed oils or something and maybe you can lighten up

Your average code monkey isn't worth much more than a burger flipper.

Yes, you aren’t providing the same level of value. Is it so hard to understand? I’m not going to pay a shit shoveler the same rate as an engineer. You’re a fucking moron.

so sayeth the neet who couldn’t do either job if his life depended on it.

Lol

wanting to live off a job that's for teenagers part-time

kek

You just contradicted yourself.

...McDonalds supports you

That means being able to survive and also pursue other activities outside of work. You are a liar.

I know right, the logic breaks down at inception. lol

Why should minimum-wage jobs pay enough to raise a family?

Poor people buy things, rich people invest in stuff that makes or supplies things. This means that the uber-rich don't actually support what they invest in and need poorer people to bring in profit. If you keep the money from trickling down it becomes locked in bullshit that doesn't do much but allow the possibility of moving money around. Gotta have liquid capital so that the gears of the economy stay greased. This isn't to say that investments are always bad for the economy, just that there needs to be a good balance of investing and spending.

We need people doing minimum-wage jobs. We need people in retail, serving food, doing manual labor, cleaning, etc. If people can't live on doing those jobs... people stop doing those jobs. Remember when fast food was fast? Remember when you could have someone bag your groceries for you? That missing efficiency and ease-of-use ran off the power of specialized labor that's now missing. "It's jobs for high-school kids" is bullshit and it was always meant as an excuse to pay less.

I "earned" $700 total since last year. I am thriving far more than when I used to have a (((job))). Jesus Christ will provide for you the moment you abandon your foolish pride and rely entirely on charity to survive.

get a second job.

oy vey just work 80 hours a week and die at 35, stop being an anti semite!

your business model only work if there is a surplus of teenagers willing to work there part time and do a good job for terrible wages

top kek

start a business

lmao

go to school and pay 25k+ for loans while we forgive ppp loans and every job wants you to have a masters and 5 years experience immediately after graduation

LMAO

yeah, starbuck and slop food aren't groceries basic necessities, buy beans and rice, eat the oats like a good peasant

I think they should just be glad that we have public schools and provide busy body work for them. None of these serfs know what it’s like to be on a lords land but they should so they could see what a real serfs existence could be.
Yeah dude, you will die of some diet related disease because you are like a poor person your entire life.

Anyone can afford to live on full time minimum wage.

No.

There is no such thing as "full time" minimum wage because that would require the company to pay benefits and so they keep the hours below 40.

So you get 20 hours.
20x$7.50=150 a week.
4 weeks out of the month=$600 a month.

RentCafe's Data: RentCafe reported the average rent for an apartment in the U.S. as $1,755 in March 2025.

So no, you can't even afford rent if you're working the 20 hours they give you. Double that to $1200 and you're still below making rent.

This boomer myth of "NOT ME BUYS THINGS THAT ARE FUN AND THATS WHY NOT ME IS BROKE" needs to die. Boomers project their own financial irresponsibility onto everyone else.

cool. when do we start deporting all the third world brown invaders that are driving up rent costs?

No one disagrees with this except for yids trying to LARP as whoever while they spout the most inane bs.

lazy cope excuse for not getting up off your ass and working for what you want.

If people fucked and had kids there would be a surplus.

If people were paid enough to survive and had free time then they would fuck more.

lazy cope

of course, I just have to walk up to the factory foreman, look him in the eye and give him a firm handshake, right? or maybe just do an unpaid apprenticeship for 5 years first

Yes, you aren’t providing the same level of value

According to... what? Humans who lie and bullshit about value.
Were those goverment employees DOGE just axed "proving value" for 6 figures a year?

Humans can't be honest about value.

If food workers aren't valuable, lets just delete all restaurants and grocery stores from existence and see how long "software engineer" survives.

I'm sure he can email himself some food.

How on earth do rightoids disagree with this?

We don't. Only kosherservatives disagree.

It was a livable wage when you were in your 20’s back in the 60’s old man.

Jobs don't exist for you to earn your living, they exist to make the business owner a living. They accept risk because they choose not to be a peasant like yourself.

You're better be a part of the ruling elite because that's how they see everyone else below them including you.
You'll understand the difference once a nigger randomly bashes your skull in.

How bout i uhhhh just use robots?

The American Dream

This is why the Zoomers don’t give a fuck about entry level jobs and I applaud that.

You are supposed to be going to school or starting a business while McDonalds supports you.

So how do you afford going to school or starting in business in addition to your living expenses, if you can't even afford your living expenses? Cuckservative kike-loving brains don't work so good.

“Ah, Shouldland, where clean-cut kids cruise Shouldland Boulevard, and the Shouldland High football team gets their optimistic asses kicked by their crosstown rival, Reality Check Tech.”

Its not so much they disagree, more that they acknowledge its not reality.

Hey asshole there sure are a lot of adults working there these days. Go fuck yourself you elitist cunt.

I am healthier than you, I guarantee it. I don't work so that I can spend most days hiking and adventuring, I literally do not have any time to (((earn))) "money".

It isn't limited to murrica, the attitude of disinterest and distancing from work force participation is a common trend among the younger generations across the western world.
Simply put, the juice is not worth the squeeze anymore and people know it, and I very much doubt anything can be done to course correct this either.

The powers that be are too stingy to provide a carrot to incentivize people to work, while at the same time they are too cowardly to actually try to force people into participation, out of fear of the social ramifications that would come from it. Thus we are on a path of inevetable collapse.

Import millions of migrants, entry level low skill jobs have shit wages. No one could have predicted this. A lot of forces colluded to do this. But hey leftoids you are replacing whites and maybe growing your voter base. You made your bed now lay in it. LMAO You did it to yourselves Hahaha

The funny thing is all these entry level jobs could provide for a family and a house back in 1956. Yet the same generation doesn’t want future generations afforded such luxuries. Boomers are so incredibly fucked in the head.

We don't disagree with this. The only people who would possibly disagree with this are jews

Get a roommate,

You mean someone who will constantly try bumping the rent on you and completely fucking ruin your property?

live with your parents,

LMAO, we're "over 18" and not allowed to. Boomer rules. Can't save money living with a parent. That's not the "adult" thing to do.

get a husband/wife,

KEK, so you're admitting people need to mooch off someone to survive and hopefully sell sexual access for greater resources.

Oh and let's just go down the Wife Store and apply for one 'eh?

get a second job.

A second job that gets pissed off when you're unavailable because you're working the other job?

Having two jobs is like having two romantic partners. It never ends well because both want your time and resources exclusively to themselves.

People like you never did any of that so you're not aware of the failure of those concepts.

People who work full time should be able to afford basic necessities

How on earth do rightoids disagree with this?

I don't. Why do you think they should pay taxes?

Furthermore, the vast majority of “manager” positions that pay high 6 figures are bullshit jobs that often hire very incompetent people. How many times does a boss show up to a job site only to embarrass themselves when they hold a hammer with 2 hands? On the contrary, some of the most vital jobs necessary for our country to function, such as trucking, are paid terribly even though they require skill and hard work. Boomers don’t understand this concept because they never had to struggle and just assume younger generations are lazy and stupid without seeing the bigger picture and decay of our society.

If you were capable of doing something, you wouldn't be a poor loser.

It's not even just the poor wages it's also the completely incestuous and cancerous housing industry that drives prices far out of the range of people that actually do make good income, let alone the poor people.

You sound psychotic.

I had a room mate. I got a gf who also had a job. I got a town house. Then I got a large house. Then I got tenants.

All my peers, jelly.

Get a wife

Have you seen the dating pool as of late? It’s so bad that women are turning straight men gay. Guys will have 5 GF’s in a row who dump them because “you’re just not exciting to me.” Vs have a kinda fem boy fall asleep on your shoulder watching a movie who’s just happy to be in your presence.

high 6 figures

You want to earn the guts of a million a year as manager? You think that's what mangers earn?

Every anon in this thread is a retard and needs to educate themselves on basic economics.

Speak in English. I can’t understand you.

Success troll, you sound like a liar. Post prove you have any of those things.

Because you DON'T have a right to live downtown in a $2,500/month apartment flipping burgers.

These zoomers and alphas refuse to even consider commuting, or working outside a large city where both pay and amenities are lower. No, they have to have the city pay AND must be afforded cheap housing in said city.

Day of the pillow soon you boomer nigger

Uhh they can’t even afford cars. Gone are the days where you can find an old but reliable beater for $3k.

Boomers could do this, it's clearly a possible reality when society isn't breaking down.
I hope for my fellow man to prosper, I hope that the next generation will live in better times than me, simple as.

Exactly. Humans are subjective and utterly fail to establish objective meritocracies. Humans tend to lie/bullshit and SOCIALIZE their way into more resources. It's how incompetent, unqualified people tend to keep getting positions.

I call this "ladder-skipping" it's when someone cant' do the bottom-tier jobs, doesn't want to and then goes and lies about their qualifications to get the raise/promotion and essentially skip the entry-level. Fast food people do this all the time. Who gets to the be manager? The person the manager likes, who asked to be one. No merit. No record of work performed. No objective test or metric if they can actually do the job.

They just lie and say they can.
"Fake it until you make it."

Meanwhile, the honest and hard-working and utterly fucked out of resources they are trying to work for.

Sure, but then who is supposed to be flipping burgers down town?
These boomer franchise owners refuse to even consider paying higher wages or relocating outside the city where both pay and amenities are lower. No, they have to have the city location AND must be afforded cheap labour by being allowed to import indentured servants under government programs they lobby for.

Because you DON'T have a right to live downtown in a $2,500/month apartment flipping burgers.

Show us the apartment for $400 a month then.
Oh wait...

You can get your Mitsubishi mirage for a few hundred a month.

inb4 I already fucked up and my credit is in the toilet

Boom, get 'em. That's exactly right. If the boomer kike shareholder wants someone to work at physical location, they need to pay them enough to live in that location.

There are McDonald's everywhere

If you can't pay all of your employees a living wage, your business is failing.

"Should" does not exist. Things are or they are not. "Should" is pie in the sky magical thinking.

t. master baiter

Boomers couldn't stand the idea of sharing the road with the unsafe pieces of shit they used to drive. My dad told me many times about how it had no wipers, holes in the floor, burned a quart of oil a day, and was basically a death trap for him and a danger to everyone on the road. But that's all he could afford. Kids aren't allowed to have those now. So they just don't have a car and so can't commute easily to a job.

A 40 year-old loser still working a starter job should absolutely not be able to afford everything themselves.

That person is a Loser working a job intended for teenagers and has never aimed for better.

1 post bait shit. multi billion dollar corporation, has its roots all throughout the world, yet not expected to pay its employees a wage where they can live on their own and be able to save. any business that gives people work should be giving them a livable wage unless we're talking dog walking or some shit like that. you literally sign up for benefits and shit at mcdonalds don't you? seems like a pretty legitimate job to me. people need to eat and people need to make that food, but oh when the pandemic was going on they were deemed essential workers, guess we're over that now?

When you're 40 the other adults tell you to work those jobs and refuse to give you work appropriate for you age.

No one says

Well you're not a teenager anymore so here is big boy work

It's

YOUJUSTHAVETOWORKFASTFOODOKAYYOUJUSTHAVETOYOUHAVENOOTHEROPTIONSJUSTGOWORKFASTFOODUGHH

From boomers and everyone else.

You are responding to a literal kike that's paid to post here

There aren't enough teenagers to work these jobs. In part because everyone is paid so poorly. If they didn't have access to Pajeet indentured servants they would have no choice but to pay the 40 year old loser a decent wage to keep him on staff whether they feel he should do more with his life or not.
If he wasn't treated like shit and paid a pittance he might have kids. If that happens enough then the company could exploit them with low wages again.

That would be great. There would be literally no restaurants and it would just say "guess you need to learn to cook huh bitch?"

Lets do rent control.

Right-wingers: That's heckin bad nobody will build anything!

Okay then, lets eliminate NIMBYism, allow mixed zoning, reduce lanes on roads for new construction and create walkable cities.

Right-wingers: Noooo that's heckin Communism!

Me and my boys already agreed on a SHTF policy of brutally killing anyone over 50 we come across no questions asked

Aww poor baby. Do you need to figure out how to apply for jobs without mommy when you turned 40? On no. It's okay little guy just keep working the mcjob until someone else explicitly tells you it's okay to do something else.

Fucking retard.

Stand on your own two feet or fucking dangle from a noose.

That's why the powers that be are so interested in flooding countries with jeets and other sources of cheap labour. Zoomers might think they're giving the middle finger to the kikes that are running the show, but the show will go on with or without their involvement as we're flooded with scabs that further reduce our quality of life

There would be enough kids but even kids know they won't make enough at a mcjob making even the jeets and 40 year olds positions even more humiliating.

Nah fuck that, people do actually deserve to live where they were born regardless of any economic considerations. Ironically, that was one of the few positive aspects of feudalism.

Thanks Ranjesh for protecting our borgers

Should have used this picture.

ok well you thought middle eastern terrorism was bad, just wait until shit is bad enough for the ones who have ancestors and lineage here. the leaders are completely disconnected from society and they don't seem to care. we're in this ship together, they don't get that, no you cannot flood the ship with people from other continents and not expect conflict.

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Anyone that says otherwise is a retard. If you're in your 30s and make the same as a highschooler, then you are a retard and should be punished for it.

If they weren't allowed their indentured servants then fast food would be a few automated machines and a couple well paid technicians by now anyway.

Do you need to figure out how to apply for jobs without mommy when you turned 40?

Can you illiterate faggots try reading a post correctly instead of looking for ways to bait and insult someone.

I fucking promise you I've worked harder jobs than you, Chink faggot.

But in typical Anon Babble style, all you can do is project some cartoon character onto everyone else.

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Here is all that negative attention you didn't get from mommy.

you should forfeit your familial and community ties because forces outside of your control made housing and general cost of living skyrocket in the few decades that you spent preparing for a world which your boomer parents assured you was attainable through hard work and a firm handshake

That is just ensuring that the collapse we are heading towards is even messier and more violent than it would have otherwise been.

Kikes and boomers thinking that they can somehow keep this clownshow ongoing with pajeet labor are absolutely delusional.

In an ideal society, almost every single person would be middle class, with the wealthiest members of society having no more than like 20x the net worth of the median citizen.

I mean you can probably make more from social security than those jobs. What's the point?

Cool. I'm gonna go to my backyard, dig a hole and fill it, then repeat for 8 hours a day. How much are you gonna pay me?

The "leaders" don't care because they don't need to interact with the masses. If shit goes south, they can always fly to some safe haven and watch the product of their malevolence come apart on TV from their beach house in the Bahamas. The collapse will never touch them if they have taken even the slightest precautions.

George Reisman said with a gold standard and a free market, the highest the ROI should be is 10%. Meaning if we had a totally free market, your scenario would play out. A lot of middle class with some wealthier folks here and there...
That's how it sort of used to be in the 1800s/early 1900s.

gay retard behind communist flag: "Do the things I want because they're totally not communist!"

Lol. You're brown.

No, this isn't a movie and yes even if they were to escape from the mess they created it would be a matter of time until they are located. They are not revered and respected like Genghis Kahn was

It’s been an important first wrung on the career ladder of many success stories. I’ll never forget the first time I got to go behind the counter at a McDonald’s restaurant. I grew up in what was at the time a very low income area, and our class trip in first grade was to a local McDonald’s. A strikingly beautiful McDonald’s manager walked us through a tour of their gleamingly spotless kitchen and had a handpicked employee demonstrate just how efficiently Big Macs, McNuggets, and their world famous french fries are made. Completely enamoured, I was washed over with an overwhelming feeling of intense gratitude having been granted access behind the veil to this heretofore secret world. As if things couldn’t get any sweeter, we were soon treated to vanilla-chocolate swirl ice cream cones and a surprise visit from none other than Ronald McDonald himself. The entire class howled with delight and everyone’s favorite clown did not disappoint. After a daredevil unicycle performance around the environs, and handily juggling with a 6 piece of McNuggets amongst various other hijinx, the tone turned serious. Ronald took a seat, had the class gather round, and read us all a letter that The Hamburglar had written him from prison. One sensitive little girl was even moved to tears. On the bus ride home that day I vowed that I would put on the McD’s apron the second I was able to.

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A vow I wouldn’t forget. Years later, first thing in the morning on my fourteenth birthday when I hit legal working age, I marched into that McDonald’s and demanded an application with the fiercest determination I could muster, and yes I did make the cut! This was right around the time that Mac Tonight(aka “Möönman”) first came out and soon I was volunteering for any night shift I could take. The rowdy late nite 80s crowd that strolled in for a pre or post-party repast introduced me to a whole new cast of characters that put Grimace & Mayor McCheese n them to shame. As I’m sure you can imagine, my high school grades suffered greatly as a result. That’s ok, I was on a different path. Full time. Assistant Manager. GED. Manager. McDonald’s University. Regional Manager. And eventually Director at McDonald’s corporate HQ, early retirement, and purchase of my very own McDonald’s franchise. Coming up on 40 years in the burger game and I’m still learning something new every day. God bless capitalism, God bless America, and God bless this company! We are extremely busy right now btw, and with the McRib rollout on Tuesday things are only going to get crazier.

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How on earth do rightoids disagree with this?

We don't.
The issue is mass immigration, GDP over ethnic population, thus becomes the problem of capitalism.
Communists / Liberals are retarded and can't understand the root cause.

If Pol Pot can hide out in the jungle and die of old age despite being responsible for 2 million deaths, I have no doubt that the lizards in charge can figure out how to evade capture.

They can, though.

I should be able to produce nothing and stay occupied with busy work while everyone else picks up the slack making up for how useless I am.

Starting a business doing fucking what? Everything has already been done, nigger.

they want more mom and pops stores to pop up that they can run out of business. they get satisfaction out of destroying smaller businesses

You don't understand.

Society NEEDS burger flippers and random customer service idiots to be underpaid. We NEED that underclass to exist.

How else are we going to convince chuds to plumb shit and get their arms sucked into machines all day if they can make a proper living flipping burgers at McDonalds or stocking shelves at Walmart? How?

We underpay them for the same reason we don't exterminate all the niggers. Its a threat.

Oh WHATS THAT?

you don't want to unclog my shitter?

ILL FUCKING FIRE YOU

you and your white family will be living in the nigger neighborhood and working at McDonalds bitch

have fun getting stabbed and broken into every week

OK FINE ILL DO IT

yeh thats what I thought bitch

yeh thats right

get in there nice and deep

YEAHHHHHHHHHH

This is probably the most boomer response I've seen on this board lmao. You're a fucking nutter butter.

Checked. Way ahead of you, anon.

Exactly. It's artificially kept low so lazy fucks can get people to do more for them. It's playing a game of chicken and those underclasses need to stop swerving and let the boomer shareholder class just die off without them.

Why are you comparing paying rent with buying multiple houses? what a fucking tard. No one is saying that fast food jobs should be on the same level as doctors, but they should pay enough so the person isn't fucking homeless, Schlomo.

McDonald's is a job for kids, not meant for adults with high living expenses.

ie. If you want a lifestyle with X expenses, get a job with X income. If you want to be poor, broke, homeless, a serial victim of capitalism, get a job meant for teenagers.

Let me break it down for you. Sometimes those shit jobs are the only ones available, mmk?

You are immune to being robbed when you go to the Bahamas

The natives of these places are dirt poor but that's fine, they will wait on my hand and foot for hyperinflated fiat

This is going to be such a shit show

SCHOOL DOESN'T GET YOU A JOB THAT PAYS A LIVING WAGE ANYMORE BOOMER

McDonald's is a job for kids

Do amerimongrels genuinely fucking believe this shit?

I know right? Literal china hours

This is why I can't wait for the Day of the Pillow, boomer.

job meant for teenagers

that boomers raised families on

Fuck off jew. Figure this out. If life quality of life doesn't improve above 1970 US you will be killed.

Of course not, that's a glownigger kike posting from and Eglin AFB basement

anyone who disputes this is a nigger who works at mcdonalds or similar and spends all their money on weed and onlyfans

prove I'm merely middle class

Lel

I belive mutts have cronic lack of knowledge of history. At best they know Thanksgiving and holocaust.
This mother fucker doesnt even know how poeple lived 40 years ago.

I’ve really grown to hate cuckservatives like you more than I hate actual leftists.

McDonald's is the most entriest of entry-level jobs, and is not supposed to be a lifelong career. It's for kids to learn how to work, and pick up a few extra bucks while they're going to school, and then either pursue a real career, or move up to a management position at McDonald's. Either way, you get out of the way, and let the next group of kids work the fryer.

Jewish mentality

They need slaves. They need to know others are suffering and less than them.

be stupid kike worshipping incel

so desperate to have voice heard you don’t read the thread and then post nonsense that was already posted in the first reply that’s already been disputed

Get actual friends you faggy nerd

Yeah bro that's why McDonald's is closed from 9am to 3pm on a school day.

Okay bet.

gets McJob

move into 10,000 sqft apartment

set AC to 60 all summer

eat filet mignon every day

Pay up, Ronald.

You can it's the exact same 2-3 glowniggers that just switched their ID to post the same ragebait.

Two American flags and an Irish one, exactly the same as a few hours ago. Fuck this board is pathetic

Checked. This is why I laugh about their holocaust stories. If it did happen, they didn't suffer enough.

Thats how normal societies should work. Jewish feminist muttgolemstan doesnt, sadly. Plus teens have too much claswork and homework these days. It used to be way less so they had more time for part time burger jobs

How on earth do rightoids disagree with this?

I have some sum of money that isn't a "living wage". I have work I need done, but don't have time to do myself. I could offer that money and see if anyone would do it for me, but not if leftoids have their way... that's illegal.

Does everyone need a living wage? No. My teenage daughter might want a job for spending money. She doesn't need to pay rent or mortgage, has no car payment, no expenses at all. She might well do some scut work for spending money. She wouldn't be allowed to work in this commie scheme of yours.

There is no slavery in the United States. If you don't like the bargain they'd strike with you, go find another job. No one owes you a goddamned thing, marxoid.

Get a real job, faggot. I was responding to OP. I don't give a fuck what you dick-lickers have to say.

Did I specify high school? I guess I would extend an acknowledgment to retirees too.

money for people smart enough to think.

kys faggot

All mcdonalds around where I live are paying starting at 16 an hour. That's honestly pretty solid compared to most jobs in my parts

Subsidizing the loser Rightoids farmers in the first world took the jobs and the money from the thirdies forcing them to migrate

Lolololmao
STFU retard

they do the math without accounting for the fact they live in subsidized housing and have food stamps.
They live better than the middle class.

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>People who work full time should be able to afford basic necessities

You can work full time doing something no one wants or needs. I owe you nothing. You are a socialist and you make more misery and poverty than anything the market can. Flipping a burde, something that will be automated out of existence and is a skillless task an illiterate can be taught is paid a low wage because anyoe can do it and it is utterly unskilled. If you think that means that person deseves their housing and groceries out of it you are insane. It is a job suitable for a person living with their parents or with someone with another income as a started job. It is not a career. Milennials have destoyed themselves by being lazy entitled left wing bums their entire lives who shit on about being creative yet and the first generation to have produced no art,music,poetry,film,theatre,sculpture or literature of note and can't take a crap without complaining that the toilet someoen else paid for and fitted is not good enough for their whining arses.

Making a product that keeps people alive

Get paid a pittance

Make products that keeps goys glued to their screen and doing nothing valuable with their time

Make a fortune

This system sucks ass. Fuck kikes. And FUCK JANNIES

If you're not making a fuckload of money by age 25 then you NEED to commit suicide. It's the boomer mentality, simple as.

Careful, this homo will call you a faggy nerd for telling the truth.

McDonald's

Keeps people alive

I would argue that it does the opposite. Anyway, if you're doing something that's so simple that it's quickly being automated out of existence, you might need to find something else. You having a room temperature IQ isn't the kike's fault.

So how about all those niggers on Section 8?

When I was at school it was a job for students that live at home or literal retards.
No, McDonald's isn't a job you can buy a house with, you worthless faggots.

nothing for you, retard chuddie

True. I'm a data analyst, my job probably will be automated in the next few years. Not sure what to do, I hate doing actual work

Is that English? Fucking lmao at this poor piece of shit aspiring to be a fry cook to provide 2 turnips for his 12 kids

Is that supposed to be an insult? Lmao at Finland thinking being a fry cook is a viable career

The Plot Thickens.
College and PhD Post secondary education doesn't earn you a job or a living wage either.

Mate in three, if you don't see it, your move. Eat the Rich.

in my expert opinion, look into getting experience with using a shovel or heavy machinery as there will need to be a lot of graves dug. better not to burn waste and pollute any further the air we have to breathe

the reality is we're here for work. we literally exist to be wage cattle.
that's the purpose imposed on us.
we believed until lately that we work to live but more and more people are realizing that we're living to work and that cities aren't made for anything else but commerce and wage slavery
NEW THREAD

Just take my word for it

Cool, story, success troll. You live with mommy and I can't be convinced otherwise without proof.

they're too braindead, and cowardly. A generation trained by tiktok, who were trained by the generation of Jon Liebowitz (Stewart), who were trained by subversive Marxists.

It's a circlejerk of "muh rightwing is bad", but it's better than the "rightwing", which was trained to lose, and cück for Pissrael

McDonalds isn't supposed to be a livable wage

fucking jews and boomers keep saying this when they paid for a 4 year college degree with a summer mcjob

I don't think fast food jobs should exist. It's the exact type of thing that should be automated.
I don't mind a minimum wage increase at all. It leads to my desired outcome.

Christianity.
I'm not religious so I just hate niggers. Poor Whites commit fewer violent crimes than rich niggers.

In my first apartment I had a room mate.
Two bedroom and we split the rent.

I knew 4 guys from college who spit a one bedroom in Manhattan, they just had 4 beds and would party all night and just crash in the apartment and worked on wall street

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