China's to U.S. plunge 21% in April while overall exports surge, beating estimates

HE KEEPS WINNING

Exports jumped 8.1% last month in U.S. dollar terms from a year earlier, according to data released by customs authority on Friday, sharply beating Reuters’ poll estimates of a 1.9% rise.

Imports slumped by just 0.2% in April from a year earlier, compared with economists’ expectations of a 5.9% drop.

China’s shipments to the U.S. plunged over 21% in April year on year, while imports dropped nearly 14%, according to CNBC’s calculation of official customs data. Chinese U.S.-bound shipments had risen 9.1% in March, as exporters rushed to frontload orders ahead of tariff hikes.

PRAISE CHAIRMAN XI

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Believing anything China says

I broke this thread's hymen. I took it’s virginity. Anyone else who posts after me is getting my sloppy seconds, my leftovers.

Just remember that the first reply is the most special reply and you'll never experience this thread the way I did and this thread will never feel the way it felt about me about you.

It's over, you might as well just go post on IncelTears and talk about how much of a "man" you are for replying on a thread that I pump and dumped. Have fun with my scraps, cucks

Its not hard to lose when you have billions of people and they are disciplined

I knew this tariff shit was a horrid idea. All it does is give them cause to twist the knife now that they have us by the balls.

You were sloppy seconds to some coping jeet lol

state mandated apologies

No matter how much ‘winning’ chinks do, you lost

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you can't tariff single country it just makes detour

that's why russia's sanctions are so ineffective

Believing Chinese numbers

Call me when their youth unemployment is fixed. Also worse case scenario we start doing all our trade with India (the insects natural enemy).

another glorious win for xi.
while another falun glownigger cope and seethes, kek.

He doesn't understand that in a country with strong social safety nets, record 97% home ownership numbers, and an extremely high priority and social value regarding higher education most young people decide to focus in going to university rather than slaving in some shitty blue collar job like in the US peeing in bottles to make Bezos richer.

SAD

oof

Slaving in some shitty job

That’s the definition of China you Neanderthal. Or at a minimum it’s how we get lots out cheap imports from them.

That was the definition of China until the early 2000s, you Cromagnon. The social fabric of China is changing fast, if you think their whole society is still focused on making cheap plastic shit you're 20 years out of date. Now the average Chinese youth wants to get a university degree and land a job at Huawei or BYD.

easy way too stop this: europeans and america should but 1000% tariffs on china, forcing them to re-direct trade and flood the world markets. forcing the rest of the world to put tariffs on china as well because they want to protect their own industry from cheap chinese goods. this would break china pretty fast

Then that means their export driven economy will soon fade away. This means they won’t be winning the tariff war in the long term.

CAN ANYONE STOP THIS MANS WINNING STREAK???

Oh no
Not the chinks!
Hahahaha

The German car market literally dies without China. Half of the VW world sales are in China. So, keep dreaming.

This shill is pathetic lmao. Only the most low IQ people will believe this
Hey eduardo gonzales on a VPN! EU will NEVER put tariffs on China now that Trump has declared trade war on Europe. Better luck next time, moron!

China shipments to the US dropped 21% in April

Chinese shipments to the US rose 9% in March as people tried to frontload orders, meaning they're buying a little more at that moment knowing they won't be buying more in the future.

How exactly is gaining 9%, and then losing 21% "winning"? It sure as shit sounds like you just had a tiny blip of extra activity that immediately was cancelled out by the fucking plunge in trade following it that will certainly be exacerbated in the months after.

pajeets, you can't fake export numbers. China's exports to EU grew. So you can double check by looking at EU's import numbers

If robots can make it then it would be cheaper to make in the USA. The only reason we make stuff in China is because slave labor and currency manipulation make it viable.

germany is, partly because of the devaluation of our currency(dm to euro) strongly export oriented. we have to become more consumer-service oriented anyway, reducing export dependency will be necessary.
never said abondon trade, just reduce it

Overall worldwide exports grew. China wins by growing their exports while simultaneously decreasing their dependency on the US. It's literally a double win.

abandon

yes, europe has to put at least 1000% tariffs on china soon

Why would EU shoot itself in the foot, moron? Trump is inherently against EU and wants trade war with it. As soon as China is gone, EU and Russian will be next on the chopping block. Until America controls the entire world

shoot itself in the foot? we need to diversify trade, like china already does to decrease dependency, moron. we need a stronger independent europe don't just turn into a chinese cock sucker

You can't fake numbers

No one tell him

The German car market literally dies without China. Half of the VW world sales are in China. So, keep dreaming.

China is "allowing" VW to operate there as a bribe for Germany. China is already undercutting Germany by shipping cheap cars and cheap EV to Europe and around the world.

As soon as China doesn't need Germany's cooperation in Europe it will cut VW from operating in China and then go back to buying their own vehicles.

Except that isn't happening? If it were they wouldn't be having mass factory closings and huge social problems with entire protests' worth of people complaining about not being payed at all. If the Chinese export market could just easily swap out the US with a spread of every other country to absorb the trade balance needed to move all of their goods, they would have done that years ago. It doesn't make sense to say their economy was set up to ONLY trade with the US, and now that the US doesn't want to buy they just swap in other countries who can. They'd just already be selling to both, which they apparently aren't doing.

China has the largest industrial robot base in the world and they're installing more robots than the rest of the world combined (see the previous graph). They're also the largest makers of industrial robots and Chinese energy prices are FAR, FAR cheaper than in the US (some factories in China even get full subsidized energy). Good luck competing with that.

not just that: chinas gepolitical goals are quite literally anti-western. we have to compete with them globally and we can

gets his news from falun gong sources

surprised when they're full of lies

Kek

As soon as China is gone, EU and Russian will be next on the chopping block. Until America controls the entire world

I thought Russia was the one who was going to take over Europe once Ukraine fell?

europe has to put at least 1000% tariffs on china soon

It would be absolute cinema if you do that, and then Trump realizes Europe is now 100% dependent on the US to survive and uses that as a leverage factor to completely rape your economy. I mean, if so many German companies are already relocating to the US, imagine what would happen under that scenario.

factory closings and huge social problems with entire protests' worth of people complaining about not being payed at all.

Let me guess, your "China news" from China Observer and The Epoch Times...

Cheap Energy prices due to state subsidies

Good thing tariffs will level the playing field. Besides if what you say is true why did textiles already move out to Vietnam before this tariff business? Shouldn’t China be dominating such an easily mechanized field? It can’t because the truth is it’s reliant on cheap slave labor and the minute someone else does it cheaper China is replaced with the next sweatshop

Come with me, anon. You got dubble trips, there's a thread with hot gynoid waifu sexbots down the hall for you.

1000% would make cheap goods more competitive with european brands, let the rest of the world get flooded with chinese goods. again, we can diversify trade GLOBALLY, like china does already. we can replace china or compete with them, we have high-end manufacturing, its just that we lack the political drive(i expect a change soon)

No? Bruh it's literally all over their own social media. Are you telling me that actually, no, China has no factory closures, they're seeing no economic slowdown, and no one is going unpaid? That they don't have product piling up in warehouses that can't ship, and that there is no concern about having to find new international buyers or having to sell domestically?

None of that is true, China is 100% thriving and partying all day and everyone is rolling in money right now? In fact, they're making more this minute than they ever have before? Those are literally the words you're telling me?

We can diversify by trading with Russia, but currently America is the biggest threat and they are also the ones we are most dependent on. We are not dependent on China AT ALL

The shills will spend billions trying to convince you otherwise. But do not worry too much, there is only so much China can subsidize and only so much China can automate.
The more automation China does, the more unemployed it becomes. LLM already are taking over service jobs. China will die by the weight of it's own people.

EU and Russia is next

They aren't because even when the US was dominate 10 years ago it didn't try to butcher the EU. In fact America didn't even go after Russia until it invaded Ukraine.
So the shills are just kvetching about people waking up to China's kikery.
I'm not even anti-china, the more they do the more they fail. If China did nothing they would be winning

China has the rest of the world it can sell products to, I am sure Trump's tariffs are barely a speedbump,

trump is a corrupt dumbass, tariffs is just stealing money from everyone in the USA that needs to buy imported goods

This happens in China all the time. It is a very competitve market. What do you think happened when the government redirected subsidies to EVs? When the government banned private tutoring? When the government cracked down on tech sector? Or even just regularly?
China is highly competitive. Outside of SOEs, private companies fail and get closed down all the time

They aren't because even when the US was dominate 10 years ago it didn't try to butcher the EU. In fact America didn't even go after Russia until it invaded Ukraine.

So the shills are just kvetching about people waking up to China's kikery.

I'm not even anti-china, the more they do the more they fail. If China did nothing they would be winning

Trump put tariffs on EU and he basically said any country importing Russian oil will not be able to do business with the US

We can diversify by trading with Russia

Yes, an economy smaller than Italy, doesn't produce anything but war and invasions of Europe and oil is going to somehow replace China's entire manufacturing output to Europe?
Why aren't you being drafted to fight in Ukraine right now Ivan?

Except they already are, and the fact that the USA imposed blankets tariffs on everybody and Chinese pass through nations is to make sure they don’t cheat, as they’re prone to doing.

China has the rest of the world it can sell products to, I am sure Trump's tariffs are barely a speedbump,

If China has the rest of the world to sell their goods to and make up or even exceed the monetary difference caused by losing the US market, then why wouldn't they already be selling goods to those countries? Are you telling me that they've been leaving 100% or more potential profit on the table by just not trading with the rest of the world until now?

Trump put tariffs on everyone. Europe can survive without Russia, it has for thousands of years.
Besides ALL that would have been avoided if Russia never invaded Europe anyway.
All this is Russia's fault, they can fix it too by pulling troops out of europe

The country with the trade surplus has more to lose.

Russians made the best steel since the Soviet Union. Hello???
And also they have a lot of GaZ and natural resources. In exchange we can sell them high technology products and software and whatever the fuck EU produces (cars? wine?)

Because, and this might shock you, there's other countries except America.

saar you should only of believing india

Trump put tariffs on everyone. Europe can survive without Russia, it has for thousands of years.

What? It has how? Russia was always there. Europe never survived without Russia

Europe can survive without Russia

Presently, literally 100% of the entire EU collective power grid requires Russian oil and gas to function. There is no alternative. There is not a single functioning power plant in some EU states.

The country with the higher standard has more to lose. The country with smaller government has more to lose. China can always temporarily return to a planned economy

See None of you people are making any sense.

This anon wants to trade with a country who is pummeling their neighbor during a ceasefire they themselves declared. The Euro addiction to cheap resources never ceases to amaze me.

trve, most europeans are already trading with other euro countries btw, we can increase the internal-euro market and strengthen consumption(binnenmarkt). trump is unironically right when he talkes about trade balances, germany is too dependent on exports, we prob do need to de-industrialize a bit and move factories into cheaper euro regions. also, while i don't like the american empire and america first policies(not internally, foreign goals aiming to undermine europe, not look at it as an equal), i share ideologically more with them than for example a china which wants to strengthen the global south(based on the "centruy of humiliation") diversifyng goods by increasing and investing in other nations globally can be done, its just that we lack the political drive, i expect a change soon

It is not exactly 100%. We get all of our gaZ from Algeria now and the gaZ prices in petrol and gas stations are actually a bit lower than before covid. No idea if this is because government lowered taxes on gaZ though

America is only 13% of the Chinese export market, 14% tops. That's 86-87% exporting to other nations, Trump might have had some cards if he had pulled this move 20 years are so years ago (so before he was even president) but now?

China's already moved on, sorry.

Did you forget that America started a trade war with the entire world at the same time? China had the products, and the rest of the world had reason to seek the mout.

increasing trade* mb

Really pathetic honestly. No wonder Russia coup'd African countries that was selling uranium to France for their nuclear plants.
Russia wants complete and total domination of European energy

Trump is unironically right

we prob do need to de-industrialize a bit

You understand that Germany is a meme because of your deindustrialization lmao? The only reason your trade imbalance exists is because Germans don't buy foreign products, not because you export too much. You export too little.

Yeah but at least they’re not emitting carbon anymore. They may have no energy security but they do have windmills (that don’t work on cloudy days with no wind) :^)

How about Greta? Do Europeans feel swindled with all this green energy talk only serving to raise energy prices for the average EU Citizen to power their home?

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yes, being dependent on one energy source was completly retared, luckily the eu starts to take the "short term pain", long term gain fiscal policy approach now. a bit too late, but its a good start at least

I cannot believe that fucking Musk is the voice of sanity in this situation lmao

Yeah maybe in the 80s grandpa. Wake up, we're in a Chinese century

No, because unlike the USA which has actually been getting cooler, Europe is getting warmer and everyone can see it. There is basically nobody in Europe who believes that climate change is a scam.

Now post the rest of China's economic data they've been strangely withholding as well as Xi's actual picture and a timestamp of your non-yellow hand.

He's a jew rat, but he knows where the market for Tesla vehicles are. What he didn't expect was China stealing the tech and producing much cheaper electric vehicles.

Yeah, another century of humiliation

Actually its closer to a millennia now these days...

we would have de-industrialized without the euro: the dm, the germany currency would be stronger than the euro now. thanks to the euro, we could de-value and stay export strong while the rest of the poorer european countries increased in valuation even tho they lack the economic output. this inbalance is bad for europe, increasing productivity in poorer euro countries by moving german factories into said regions would be an overall euro gdp gain, while german turns a bit more service-tech based.

Hopefully Europe can find some other source of energy, or start buying from other countries to keep a diverse energy portfolio

China's already moved on, sorry.

Deuces, Wang.

Sources of energy for Europe should be Russia and the Middle East, but it's impossible when Europe is the US bitch.

Completely ignores cost of energy or energy security or cost of living

Its getting warmer so let’s just stick to the globohomo narrative

Nevermind China produces more pollution than anyone, we need to have no energy or industry

Kek, lmao even

Cars are the only thing of value EU produces and you would send off even that to some third world country? Do you really want Europe to be a walking meme?

China produces 50% of the world's goods and yet, per capita has less emissions than America that doesn't produce anything except software and "consultants", aka finance economy

America is only 13% of the Chinese export market, 14% tops. That's 86-87% exporting to other nations

That's not really true, when you consider that outside of the 15% (not 13) that directly goes to the US, at least another 15-20 goes to factories and companies in places like Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Mexico, and others where they're just handling the assembly side of products bound for the US anyway.

What I'm saying to you is, none of these other countries out there have any interest in stepping up and absorbing 30% of China's export market. No one has that kind of spending power, nor goodwill towards China to do so. And remember, that would be 30% BASELINE, because the only viable economic result would be that other country(s) would have to absorb that 30% and then grow it year over year.

but it's impossible when Europe is the US bitch.

God forbid you put sanctions on Russia for invading you.
That would make Europe even worse than Russia's bitch if they did nothing, that would make them a cuck slave

each chinese has 2/3 of the carbon footprint to the americans by the way. Their only downfall is their population size. which is practically 5 times yours. Americans should never use pollution as an comparison, you are a fucking joke. Especially now that you reopen your beautiful clean coal veins.

Yes and Sri Lanka has paused tariffs. Only China has tariffs

yes, thats why people made fun of trump putting tariffs on penguin, you have to put tariffs on everything to close all loopholes

Per Capita

Didn’t realize Mother Earth did all these calculations before deciding to get polluted. I guess for the same reason Mother Earth ignores that some of the most polluted rivers in the world are in China and India respectively.

Exports jumped because people were panic buying.

China will die by the weight of it's own people.

You can talk about that.
Your people depends on the Oil Empire which is making the world unhabitable, despite all your coping.
You can compete with China's people weight. They outnumber you, but you outfat them.

no, per capita is important, i mean china has 1.4 billion people, judging them by absolute numbers is retarded and i do believe in climate change, despite being a right winger. america has to step up in this regards

more fake ching Chong bullshit

Fuck off gook.

US is losing relevance by the day as the purchasing power is slowly eroded due to inflation and other bullshit. It's an empire on decline and everyone else is going up at varying degrees in comparison. Even European nations are growing, though still losing compared to Latin America and the Chinks.
Maybe one day the Western systems will learn that you can't beat the chinks by screaming "2 more weeks!" or pushing the idea that they just make cheap plastic shit.
China will soon be manufacturing their own high end semiconductors and they'll be so far ahead, that no one will be able to catch them for decades to come.

The problem is that in order to compete, you need to start praising the straight white man and cutting out all feminist and pro immigrant politics that drag things down. There's no room for that stuff in a merit driven environment.
This however goes against everything the fucking insane system has been fighting for, so it won't happen and it might be too late to turn things around at this point anyways.
Better start saving up for a move to Brazil if you want to enjoy a somewhat Westernized system that's on the rise long term.

No, just in India. China is nowhere near this bad. Also since we are now talking about Pollution and not Emissions anymore ...

China produces 50% of the world's goods and yet, per capita has less emissions than America

I'm sorry, fucking WHAT lol. China makes up 31 to 35% of global CO2 emissions and growing, whereas America is less than 10% and shrinking. They exceed more than the entire Western world combined and then some. And that's not to mention material pollution which is not even close, or other things like overfishing and shit.

Also since we are now talking about Pollution and not Emissions anymore ...

Cars are the only thing of value EU produces

Are you sure about that?

So? This is arbitrary because US and western countries pay significantly more for the same product. They're probably selling shit to Africans on Temu while making virtually no profit.

muh per capita

China is already closing that gap fast anyway. More Chinese are driving cars and even eating more meat than westerners.
Also per capita doesn't mean shit when there is a giant factory on max pollution mod spewing garbage in the air for cheap plastic crap.

1 American pollutes the same as 2 Chinks but there are 4x more Chinks than Americans and Chink factories are more toxic than American ones. Chinese bypass all environmental regulations to keep their products cheap

Especially now that you reopen your beautiful clean coal veins

ESL Chang. Lmfao.

How is it that the most irrelevant countries think in this globohomo narrative? You realize your Territorial Waters will soon be part of the Nine Dash Line (aka Chinese Fishing and Natural Resource Extraction Territory)? That alone will increase pollution far more than your country trading coal exports for sheep wool ever would

Yes. I have a VW. BMW fucked up with subscriptions and even then, it was always expensive. A used VW is very cheap and lasts very long

Face it, in a trade war, it's always better to be the store than the customer. If it weren't, Trump wouldn't be trying to bring manufacturing back to America at the cost of consumption power, which relies on the dollar's reserve currency status, which in turn relies on running a goods trade deficit. It's why Trump already cucked out on electronics from China (a huge chunk of their exports to the U.S.) without getting anything in return.

What's disappointing is you guys really went in swinging... for about a week. You were telling yourselves the Chinese were ready to topple Xi and riot in the streets and all the other goofy shit you told yourselves when sanctions got imposed on Russia. And now you're realizing China is moving on and you're choking instead of trying to make do without it.

That's kinda cringe, we really are seeing the death throes of an empire.

Even European nations are growing

The only thing "growing" about the EU is its' African and Muslim populations.

Step Up to this

How about no. How about instead of worrying about a climate catastrophe you can worry about your neighbor who keeps pointing guns at your European Union community

Oh wait, your Germans, you don’t care what happens because Eastern Europe is the buffer zone so you can focus on more “pressing” matters like Climate Change and importing more Muslims to work in your car factories.

its an insane post, bro doesnt even know about asml and other high-end euro manufacturing

You were telling yourselves the Chinese were ready to topple Xi and riot in the streets and all the other goofy shit

No one pushed that beside obvious Chinsect glowniggers who wanted to create a narrative they can easily disprove.

Cope more, 41%-face. Cause Merz will be sending them back so that only leaves France as the last immigrant friendly destination

Explain why Russia is a threat to Europe without using MSM platitudes like >he is rebuilding the Soviet UNION!!!

It's funny because none of this is true AND it's coming from a Chink posing as a fucking Thai, a country that is so broke its' only viable product is sex tourism with ugly chicks.

yes and no, germany should have for example moved its factories into poland and other eastern european regions instead of using them as cheap labours for de-valued german factories in germany. climate change however, is real and ít will destroy nature and eco-systems. trump moving back to coal and other co2 based production is extremly bad. europe should put sanctions on us service if trump wants to use coal energy for data-centers

Merz will be sending them back

Oh yes, I'm sure that will happen. Totally.

No one pushed that

And now you're backpedaling. How about just committing to full decoupling and try to see how you guys manage with empty shelves for a while until the factories come back or whatever the plan was? Why not ride this out for even a fraction of the time you said you were ready to commit?

Well. We can use basic logic

Ukraine is a country/region in Europe

Russia keeps annexing its territory and shelling it (killing Europeans, particularly civilians) in spite of its own ‘ceasefire’

Ergo Russia is a threat to Europe

londongrad

Well either that or he gets hanged, because Germans had enough. Europeans tolerate a lot less than Americans do

This only proves it is a threat to Ukraine. Ukraine, that doesn't have a defense pact. How is it a threat to countries that ARE in a defense pact??

Why are you so salty?

trump moving back to coal and other co2 based production is extremly bad.

Germany literally closed all of its' power plants, cheered and patted themselves on the back for doing it, and then like a month later none of their energy systems worked and so they had to take giant excavators to chew up pristine European countryside looking for coal veins to feed their shuttered generators because they had no power.

its' only viable product is sex tourism

if you are a degenerate and a little bit gay lmao

EU should tax the shit out of US Services, particularly data and SOE revenue, on national sovereignty grounds alone. Again though you seem awfully more concerned with feeding your factories with cheap labor than the country constantly shelling your Sub-Continent and destroying the most arable land in the world (aside from the US Prairie soil).

A German through and through.

NATO will save me so I can just close my eyes and plug my ears

Kek, lmao even

It's how they always respond when they realize they're losing the plot. If he had an argument, he wouldn't be resorting to insults but here we are. Americans get really really angry whenever you drop a few trvkes.

Explain why Russia is a threat to Europe

Was invading it not enough proof? Was trying to coup another country besides ukraine not enough proof?
Every sanction happening to Russia, is because of Russia's own doing. They can literally save themselves right now by not invading Europe. It is that simple.

And now you're backpedaling

I'm not the same person you are responding to early. There is no backpeddling, China pushes narrative they can disprove easily to control the narrative.

"China will collapse in 2 weeks!" Look we survived 2 weeks, China invincible!

Why not ride this out for even a fraction of the time you said you were ready to commit?

Who are you talking to? Last I checked, I'm not a politician who makes decisions about how the country operates its' foreign policy day to day. "Why didn't you XXXXX", man I don't fucking know, I'm not out here negotiating trade deals and shit.

Why didn't you make your country worth more than $5? How come you haven't built a city that isn't a fucking favela? I'm asking you why you haven't done it yet.

germany does bad policy, therefore us doing bad shit is good

as i said, germany screwing up does not excuse us actions, such as their bad approach to climate change. and yes, i get it, most american right wigners think its fake but we in europe don't think it the case and we should judge american industries based on our approach to climate change

Ukraine was part of Russia just 30 years ago ... How is it a threat to the actual Europe?

uuuhhhhh it wasn't us pushing the China collapse videos... it was the Chinese themselves!

Admittedly I haven't heard that one before, starting to think you're just baiting at this point.

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we really are seeing the death throes of an empire.

YEAH THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN THE HECKIN AVENGERS BEAT UP CAESARMORT AND TOPPLED THE ROMAN EMPIRE

God I hate pop history fags so much lol

because Germans had enough.

No they fucking haven't, lol. Germany is the most cucked country on the planet. They hate themselves, they hate their ethnicity, they hate their history, and their shared universal value is that every single German would rather be beheaded in the street with a smile on their face by a Muslim or African than ever be caught dead waving a German flag and having someone call them a "nationalist".

Germany is a corpse of a country.

North America is not really getting warmer, so it is hard to convince Americans it is happening especially because in popular media climate change is synonymous with global warming

China has way worse safety nets than the US
Also

China having lower exports is a good thing

Mestizo IQ

t. never been to Germany

Last I checked, I'm not a politician who makes decisions about how the country operates its' foreign policy day to day.

Then why are you running defense for the ones making decisions you don't even believe in?

Why not ride this out for even a fraction of the time you said you were ready to commit?

Because they're cowards

Xi also has access to to CCP and Russian hackers. In the US we have great engineers in cybersecurity but we do not measure up. Solarwinds, ATT, and other utility companies all have histories of shutdowns attributed to hacks + outages that they lie about being hacks.
We already lost the cyber war

merz actually just recently closed the borders and actively tries to talk with other eu-heads to adress migration overall, a huge change in rhetoric. germany, since 2015, actually turned way more to the right

Not my cup of tea

no it's just cope!

Are you upset people are starting to see through your false narrative push?

China has way worse safety nets than the US

you couldn't even find China on a map

That’s because official US Policy when getting cyber hacked is to pay the ransom. SolarWinds didn’t even result in the govt pulling contracts. Should’ve immediately worked on pulling those contracts and having our Cyber Bureau commission their own equipment and software in house.

Russia and China also have decentralized hackers. In USA you go to jail for hacking a foreign non-allied country except if you work for the government or a contractor of the government. In Russia and China they just don't care. Meaning that if you are a Russian for example you can extort American companies for cryptocurrency, harm your adversary and get paid a lot.
Though, this is a double edge sword.

We already lost the cyber war

Fair enough.

Why reply to me, but not actually address my point? You seem scared.

Spewing laughable ruguanxue takes here is kind of a dead giveaway you're just another chink on a VPN. How does it feel to know you will never be an actual empire, respected world power, or let alone for that matter real human?

and actively tries to talk with other eu-heads to adress migration overall

It doesn't matter. Germany can elect the AFD, Italy can elect Meloni, etc., they can put any government they want into power, and it means nothing. EU state governments are fake, they're ceremonial positions at best. Everything about your country is dictated to you by the EU Parliament and Von der Leyden. You say "We voted for no more migrants!" and the EU Council says "How fun. Well no one cares because you're getting 5 million more." and you can do nothing about it. You can't leave the EU, you can't refuse, you can't go a different way.

Sorry my guy, there's no righting this ship.

Why reply to me

Why not? You replied to me.

bazed

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90% homeowners

That's because you literally need to own property in China in order to be a citizen, it's legally required. Every adult is expected to, on paper at least, own a home of some sort. Which is why there was so much money invested in building those huge fake cities full of massive apartment complexes, because they got money from the government to build them so they could sell homes to people (on paper) even though the grand majority of them were never actually built or finished or livable, they were just concrete boxes that existed so people could, on paper, say they owned a home.

If robots can make it then it would be cheaper to make in the USA

And if Americans weren't brain damaged from the vaxx, they would've recognized this and slowly shifted their industry accordingly.

Instead, Orange Princess decided to kneecap Chinese imports, which we rely on for practically EVERYTHING, then go oopsie and reverse course, making us all look like fucking retards.

its the cdu trying to do this, the center party, signaling a huge shift in adressing overall migration.

That's because you literally need to own property in China in order to be a citizen, it's legally required.

Fucking based.

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CDU used to be called center-right party before immigration became the central topic of what left and right is. Just saying

Every adult is expected to, on paper at least, own a home of some sort.

In China you need an apartment in a tier 0 city like Shanghai, 200k or more CNY salary, 1mil CNY in savings for a bride gift, a fancy car, and you must be 180cm or taller if you want to be able to get a wife

yes that was merkel, merz tries to go back to pre era merkel cdu

You should read the rest of his post, moron.

As soon as China is gone, EU and Russian will be next on the chopping block. Until America controls the entire world

America DID control the entire world. It was called the post-WW2 world. And it's the exact thing these tariffs are destroying.

hint: Chinese purposely devalued it's currency for 20+ years to give Americans cheap goods

most countries did this also

Americans, becoming fat indolent retards then made the extremely wise decision to destroy their strangehold over the world economy so that they can "balance the trade deficit" or some other meme thing. Why do I have to live in a place where my brown "countrymen" are this fucking retarded?

That’s how every piece of garbage neocon, RINO and DINO operate

Actually only give a shit about globohomo (suppress your own citizens through wage suppression, cost of living suppression and regulatory burden)

Pretend the problem doesn’t exist until the opposition reaches a criticial mass

Once the tide is about to turn offer the minimum concessions possible to retain power

Rinse and repeat

This is what Trump called the Deep State and I’m quite glad he is dismantling these groups. The only fix I’d like is to dismantle even more of the current government

China goes with the flow. It has always been doing it, for its whole history. Nowadays it's a winning strategy.
It's wonderful to see the burgers, from the "free world", getting so butthurt that they have to display their arrogance once more.
Can you guys keep your narcissism for yourself, at least once?

It's not. It's just a case of creating perverse incentives because it's an arbitrary rule the government imposes to try and achieve an outcome (in this case, the idea being splitting up family groups and pushing people out of living together in the few major cities and out into the countryside where they can develop more and spread out, and thus justify all of the transit shit they're building that mostly goes unused), but instead just creates a situation where you have a government mandate that is creating a chain of loopholes where everyone down the ladder is trying to find a way to technically comply while paying as little as possible.

So yes, cool, lots of people in China "own a home", which is literally an un-finished concrete box inside an apartment building skyscraper in the middle of nowhere that will never be built and most likely will just collapse at some point anyway because lol tofu-dreg construction, and because the whole "city" it resides in is a Russian nesting doll of companies and contractors scamming one another all the way down.

Cool, very based, surely this is a solid economic model for the country.

All of that too, lol.

I was really happy with the result, best believe I'm gonna use it.

The question is if SDP will allow it

Burgers don't know how to read.

I also have to wonder, does your supervisor on the 4am shift know you are using the same material on your 8am shift? LOL

lol that is pretty funny. I wish I could get paid to shitpost. I am here about 2h per day anyway

None of that is true, China is 100% thriving and partying all day and everyone is rolling in money right now? In fact, they're making more this minute than they ever have before? Those are literally the words you're telling me?

Correct, shill.

America is committed to ethnic suicide at the behest of the filthiest, smarmiest shitskinned desert dwellers in existence: The Jews.

And instead of focusing on this existential threat, you think repeating "Chyna is collapsing!!1" and erecting statues of niggers in Times Square will somehow do anything.

I hope based Xi nukes this entire fucking country. Eglin first.

Very simple economic theory behind why US suffers more from tariffs then any other country they impose them on (including China):
- US has to pay more for every good they import (due to imposing tariffs on every country). This also increases the production costs of all goods/services made by the USA.
- US also has to pay more taxes on all products they export (due to retaliatory tariffs), therefore making their goods/services more expensive in the global marketplace.
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- Other countries only have to pay more for imports/exports to USA only. Trade with other countries is not affected, and is now in fact cheaper (due to reduced demand from USA).
- For example, Australia is now heavily moving its trade from USA to China. I have recently noticed that goods from China are now much cheaper than normal (due to reduced demand from USA).
- Although this is net negative for everyone involved, other countries will still grow faster relative to USA as a result of these tariffs.
- China has 1 billion people to sell too and a historically very strong domestic market, if any country could survive without exports, it would be them.

If only trump had someone who was half as intelligent as me on his team to tell him this (but he would probably be too stubborn to listen anyway).

This is what Trump called the Deep State and I’m quite glad he is dismantling these groups. The only fix I’d like is to dismantle even more of the current government

I agree. And we're seeing exactly how the State is recoiling to defend itself in response, with both the activist judges fighting tooth and nail to shut down any possible action he takes, and also you have fucking queer cucks like Speaker Johnson going on recess and punting all of the votes on legislation to ratify the budget and department cuts that Trump and DOGE are making.

it's an arbitrary rule the government imposes

All government rules are arbitrary, you know that.

Solid refutation, ladyboy.

Wow!! Very smart practice! Can I not only point out the success of his decisions, but also we can agree of the elegance at which they are employed. China #1!!

Solid refutation

Maybe one day the Western systems will learn that you can't beat the chinks by screaming "2 more weeks!"

The shills are fucking retarded anon.

You have to remember that their bosses are LITERALLY dei trannies.

Glad you admit it, finally

there's a bit of front loading before tariffs but still an excellwnt performance that proves what everyone knew but was too afraid to say out loud: economocally, usa is inconsequential in global trade.

lol.
CNBC
But china cannot make robots and never has made a robot.
No matter how mad you get. Because that is the truth.

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Lmao couldnt afford Canada or Australia, chang?

Top kek, thanks for the video anon

When I visited China I was ASTOUNDED by how advanced their cities are. There is not a single city in the entire USA that could match even their tier-3 cities.

Thailand, despite being much less developed and having many issues, also had many great aspects and superb transit systems that the US lacks. How is it that the "global superpower" cannot match third world countries?

China is a leftist country tho lmao, the only difference is they are less open borders, japan is more based thsn china

And it's only become less and less consequential as time goes on. For the past several decades, it's already been running on fumes basically (historical momentum of speculative asset bubbles).

None of these countries ever bought anything from us which was our problem.

Because their infrastructure is new, not that complicated

chink face

my sides

economy in free fall

winning

Gook cope.

China never even made a car. Because they cannot do it.
China spends a lot of effort on manipulative shilling. Because the reality is it’s a very backwards globo shithole, the worst one in the world.
So get mad, there’s ton’s of Reuters, UN and China BS to quote. Google AI style.
…or you could look for reality.
But I get the impression reality doesn’t interest you.

robots

my arse.

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You forgot the #1:

everything Americans rely on is made in China

You can pinpoint the exact moment Anon Babble got hacked and this faggot had to starve for a week

And can be replaced

West Canadians are getting butthurt bc Chang is buying their homes and land.
You can cry all you want, while Orange Strong Clown makes his show. In the next coming years that's your turn.

Nice non sequitur chink shill

I really do love the metro here. As for your question, if I had to guess, I would say having enough billionaires to form their own class (while hollowing out the middle class) and also waging several wars costing trillions of dollars probably had something to do with it.

No. Your problem was and is that you have a lot of debt and:

don't want to raise taxes, despite having the most billionaires in the world

don't want to cut spending despite having a very inefficient government, especially in the defense sector

cannot afford to print money anymore

So your real goal is just like Scott Bessent said: "Countries should buy more of our weapons or just send money directly to the treasury to have the tariffs dropped"

USA is no different than an Allahu-Akhbar Islamist threatening to blow both of the parties up if they don't give them money because they don't want to solve their problems themselves. That is what all of this is about. You want to take from the rest of the world to pay your debts.

If you're actually Hans and not a burger shill hiding behind a flag, I say shame on you.

Demeriting a country for having the gumption to change things for the better instead of relying on ancient tech and refusing to change it is bollocks.

Americans already live paycheck to paycheck. And now you want them to buy phones/computers made by Musk using Indians that will cost 3x the cost of an Iphone which is already incredibly expensive to begin with

And can be replaced

Nope.
Nice german cope, btw. How are your factories going?

If you have to argue with someone that china is lying then that person you are talking too
A) has no grip on reality, they are mentally ill
B) they are lying for an agenda
Because - reality.
You can’t lie it away.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sj83lRGOtQ

calling other people shill while having dozens of shill images ready to go

Projection

Oh no they'll have to sell at a 515% markup rather than 500%

racially homogenous ethnostate with zero globohomo influence, taking pride in it's history, culture, and conducting massive military marches is le... LeFtIST

They should be more like the based and redpilled West. Committing suicide after 1900 years of dominating the world because a bunch of hook nosed rats told them to.

It's shills, marxists and demoralized rightwingers. China has stopped reporting stats like youth unemployment but idiots are still impressed by new infrastucture and LED lights

This has nothing to do with what i said. China is a poor country, shsnghai was a fisher village. Us cities are way older

implying that companies would willingly reduce their profits without the government forcing them to do so with price controls or state-controlled alternative company (both of these unconstitutional in USA btw)

Good point actually, i did forget to mention that. Goes to show how screwed the USA will be if Trump does not bend the knee (which he will inevitably do in silence). He already waived tariffs for Apple so that they can continue to produce their phones in China.

ethnostate with low birthrates

GG no re

It helps to not spend trillions of dollars on war

Pretty good actually, frenchie. I know the historical seething of frenchies especially against the us empire and i partly agree. Not a reason to suck chinese cock tho

Us cities are way older

It isn't a key for success. As your german ass can see by yourself. Still wondering: how are your factories going?

As trumpsaid, american have to buy 4 dolls instead of 10. Yes, americans spend slot, their consumption drives a lot of economic growth.

And can be replaced

Not by American citizens. They are garbage employees and their brains are addled by vaxx and goyslop.

With robots? Sure. Over a period of maybe 20 years of automation. Orange Princess expected it to happen in two more weeks after launching his tariffs... Bigly.

There are no words for that but retardation.

The only thing I'm posting is images and videos of China. You can't find a single equivalent space in the entirety of America. Even the natural beauty is only good because It's God's creation and hasn't been tainted by mutt developments yet.

Why does tiktok have that shaking note moving so erratically? It is making me nervous and my fingers feel weird.

Poor Americans don't spend a lot, because they can't. Poor being 30% of them

I will never be able to relate to people who are dismayed by the state of their own countries and instead of trying to fix them they turn outwards and fetishize nations like China. People like that have given up on themselves and their future, but they still have energy left to annoy others with

Yes, chinese goods can be replaced, it will take a bit to create supply lines in several different more westeen alligned countries and prob mean a reduction of profits and less goods per individual but its possible

hello. Welcome!

I yearn for it

As trumpsaid, american have to buy 4 dolls instead of 10.

The numers are 2 dolls instead of 30
And that includes flushies and action figures

They can't be replaced, USA is already close to full employment (i.e. 4.2% unemployment). Out of that 4.2%, maybe 2% will get new manufacturing jobs (other 2% are unemployable drug addicts). The other 96% of people who are already employed would have to leave their cushy office tech jobs to work in a sweatshop making t-shirts instead.
Leave the high paying tech jobs for the USA and leave the low paying manufacturing jobs for China; it's called comparitive advantage in economics.

I just have dozens of pictures saved uhhh for no reason

Terrible attempt at deflection chink shill

Not to mention the water is 80% poisoned including the Aquifers from mining and drilling without any regs.
Once a couple nukes go off in the Himalayas, kiss china's last source of clean water Byebye!

got scammed by french jews

got btfo by aliexpress fighter jets

HUUUR DUUUR CHINA IS LYING

Why are poos like this?

he took the governments calculation of employment figures at face value and did no further research

Completely worthless

Aw sweet
ANOTHER CHINA COPIUM THREAD
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in US dollar terms

they manipulated their currency to make the numbers look better

it will take a bit to create supply lines in several different more westeen alligned countries

You don't have any education in operations management, don't you?

birth rate goes down

oh no, anyways

Western solution

I love Jewish semen and I want $$$ to shill on Anon Babble

birth rate goes down

according to my kike boss, we need to replace ourselves with India, or the stock market line will not go up

ethnic suicide, wonderful!

Idk about others but we would be fine, we get most of our energy from nuclear and hydroelectric to begin with. We also have our own petrol and gas.
France could switch to being energy independent too, and I'm pretty sure there are other countries in Europe that could also do it pretty quickly

They unrionically should have looked to the wisdom of their ancestors and should have been more patient with their development
But China is a proven liar

Are you aware that the tech industry is in complete meltdown right now? You pajeet shills don't even know what the USA is like. USA doesn't count anyone that isn't expressly looking for work, or has been unemployed for longer than 6 months as unemployed. Fake stats.

The point doesn't change, if you want, i can use the labor force participation rate instead (which includes people who aren't actively looking for a job). The point does not change, USA does not have anywhere near a high enough unemployment rate to justify bringing back manufacturing jobs at the expense of everyone else.

greedy kikes in power who has no loyalty to the well being of the country and it's people.

Can't wait to see how it ends up

China is a woke feminist society, they have a birth rate lower than japan. Superficial shows and dances say nothing about the underlying spiritual foundation: they destroyed chinese spiritual thought and replaced it with ccp communism. The cultural revolution destroyed artefacts, oral tradition temples and so on. Japan actually still has its monarchy, shinoism still exist, they have kendo as well, their architecture is a nice blend between ancient and modern and they still have housewifes and an even higher pecentage of yamato than han chinese with strong borders. Watch chengdu gay cspital of china on ytube, rich chinese coastal people are libards as well

No, why? China overtaking the US is the perfect moment to realign with a new ally but on an advantageous playing field rather than the burgerzionist vise we've been trapped in the last 80 years

It helps to not spend trillions of dollars on war

Not a single one of which we won, btw.

The ONLY good thing we had was the dominance in trade. But now Trump and his MIGA cult have ruined that too. Now we will be a brown nation filled with morbidly obese morons and trannies with zero redeeming factors.

Germany reported gdp growth again, so we are back on track. Ae you even french? Read what i wrote about the german economy prevously

China isn't woke. Woke means trannies and immigration. Every country has those, but China has probably the least of them out of any country

What is this "at the expense of everyone else"? If the jobs pay more than many service roles, people will swap. And the fact is that democrats will eventually gain the executive again and will continue increasing mass immigration. And then there's the fact that many of these factories can be built on automation and won't need as many workers as traditional factories

I'm not going to take geo political advice from a slav.

you still got those guns you will never use

I adressed it already

And the fact is that democrats will eventually gain the executive again and will continue increasing mass immigration

That is because you have a 2 party system. In Slovakia they have leftist parties against mass immigration (Fico). Since it is inevitable that left and right swap places from time to time the only solution is to have many parties so they can be the closest to the people

Russia is doing better than you. Let alone my country

It is possible, again, any relevant argument or just emotions?

The fact that China has dumpster tier birthrates tells you it's fallen under the influence of feminism. They can protest the woke label all they want, they can try to appear as something else. But they have low birthrates, and that's because women are independent, not subservient to men or thinking of their nation and its future.

In this context I'm not arguing for or against immigration just saying that most likely mass immigration will continue so concerns about labor shortages for a manufacturing base are unfounded

They unrionically should have looked to the wisdom of their ancestors and should have been more patient

In 1000 years China will exist as it always has.

In 50 years, the USA will be an unrecognizable state of niggers, spics, and pajeets. Brazil 2.0 if it even makes it that long.

But on the plus side, you'll have a much greater population of useless fent-addicted criminals, cartel gangs, and street shitters. What a glorious fucking future you goddamn glownigger. Look at what you sold us out to.

Superficial shows and dances say nothing about the underlying spiritual foundation: they destroyed chinese spiritual thought and replaced it with ccp communism. The cultural revolution destroyed artefacts, oral tradition temples and so on.

Man, I love their spiritual thought. But as they're in a good trend, you're not helping your own point.

Japan actually still has its monarchy, shinoism still exist, they have kendo as well, their architecture is a nice blend between ancient and modern and they still have housewifes and an even higher pecentage of yamato than han chinese with strong borders.

Same here. Japan has its traditions, but it's all they have left. This country will have to aggressively recruit immigrants if it doesn't want to only exist in history books.
I know you share an ideal of ratial purity. But at some point you need to realize when a strategy is bad.

They won't pay more than service roles because manufactured goods have much lower margins and are a lot more price sensitive than tech software/services (literally highest margin/least price sensitive products out there). If USA starts manufacturing, they will still have to compete (price wise) with China in the global market, you cannot do that without paying your employees peanuts. Manufacturing is too low skill of a job (for the most part) to be considered high paying. in reality, if manufacturing moved to the US, companies would find it a lot more profitable to use as much capital as possible and move away from labour manufacturing anyways.

No, it has nothing to do with feminism. You are implying that men want children but women don't and in China, this is especially false.
It is actually because they DON'T have feminism. There is 100M men more than women in China because parents preferred men and aborted women

Shanghai had trannie surgery and the ccp still tries to get rid of lgbtq and it aint working, the chinese are woke)

1000 years ago the Chinese today didn't exist. "Han" is a made up mutt national identity concocted from a thousand years of Mongol, Turkish, Japanese, Pajeet, and hell even SEAmonkey rape.

Chink society is pathetic.

Nutlick already said it’s ok for china to ship to europe and for europe to ship those goods to USA + tariffs. The only thing big daddy orange man did was put kill free market and tax americans. This is why maga wanted tho, to kill the middle class for their oligarch overlords.

Yep their confucian anti equality norms got replaced by western thought(only education, now ultra educated tiger moms remain). The chinese cultural revolution was unironiclly a western movement, they destroyey ancient chinese thought and rebuild a western china

It is possible

No, you get the timing wrong. Humanity changes the environment, this king of backpedaling isn't possible anymore.
But I'll watch you try, with pop corn. I mean, thanks to your cuntry we don't have the nuclear power supply Europe needs.

greedy kikes in power who has no loyalty to the well being of the country and it's people.

And whose fault is that but the cupidity, weakness, and indolence of the white men who sold their own countries out to this evil system?

This is what I hate most about my "countrymen". No self-responsibility. No admission of guilt. only pointing fingers when WE were the guardians who were charged with maintaining the Fatherland.

Watch china little africa on ytube.

lol you’re obsessing over bac like you want every hole gaped

Chinese companies using even lower wage worker from africa are a thing as well, its just that their median age is relatively low for now, migration will prob increase

work in a sweatshop making t-shirts instead

What a predicament. If only some nefarious group could have shipped in 30 million illegals who will never get real papers and work for $4/hr @84 hrs per week.

Let's side with the chinks. They seem like decent people.

They are worse than jews, and that's saying a fucking lot.

China - $100 a month for professionals.
Farming RATS is a big part of the economy.
It gives people free holidays just to have them read a CCP script all standing in the same spot in front of 2 acres of christmas lights. A street further away they are selling dog.

this is very dangerous to our democracy

style script reading they point to the glass bridge they are on and say

america doesn’t have one of these

but of course America does, built in the 70’s.
It’s a GLOBO PIRACY HUB a globo project sporting a political system invented in London in the 30’s by Baron Rothschilds pet scientists the tot’s & quots scientific dining club with members like the Huxley pedophile brothers. Scientist pedo’s used for spying and giving atomic secrets to the USSR to create “cold war” and used for creating the UN and UNESCO.
WE ARE ALL PAYING AID MONEY TO CHINA. Which it liberally diverts back into the pockets of the UN & UNESCO (globo).
All chinese companies goods are shipped FOR FREE (we pay). A developing nation the globo UN call it.
It has to have military to protect the piracy.
They can’t achieve anything but copying 30 year old shite and shilling hilariously comparing itself to America, which is silly. And only silly people who have mental issues, media brainwashing issues or are liars themselves can fall for it or repeat it.
China can’t create something like a car with hundreds of moving parts. It cannot even copy it. I could nail an electric motor into a moulded plastic shell and call it a BYRD or TYRD or w/e they call their large CHILDREN’S TOY.
Their “robots” are fake. They are not even real they are big toys copied off crap we had in the 90’s. It’s like a joke but hey, you fell for it.
The covid/climate hoaxing, war mongering central bank empire media is now OPENLY working in tandem with the government which murdered as many of it’s own citizens as died from all nations in WW1 & WW2 combined and which says it will take over the world.

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I don't think labor shortage ever was a problem anywhere during peace time. Employers whine about it here too, but when you look at the job listings they want you to know literally everything but offer a bit above minimum wage. For example, see picrel. And then they say there is a labor shortage because they cannot find such person.

Reminder Drumpf has been alive longer than the CCP has been in power.

the ccp still tries to get rid of lgbtq

therefore they are not woke

They end up tarnishing their own reputation by puffing themselves up.
The CCP won't even make it to 200 years

manufactured goods have much lower margins

Depends entirely on the good

they will still have to compete (price wise) with China in the global market

Not for domestic consumption if tariffs remain in place and I wouldn't be surprised if other countries follow suit when they realize trading with China means losing your domestic manufacturing
You would have a point if most women were married with multiple children but they aren't and don't. Sure, individuals valued male children for various reasons, but that doesn't change the fact that today in modern China a woman is largely independent and isn't pressured or successfully pressured to marry young and have multiple children. That is wokeness. If your nation has low birthrates, it is "woke" and sick in some way.

What am I supposed to learn from it, according to you?

One child policy was an amazing success.

I mean more Taoist philosophy, which wouldn't encourage growth at the expense of so many other things. It would also tell you that you can't maintain an iron grip on any system for an extended period

You would have a point if most women were married with multiple children but they aren't and don't.

You are mistaking western traditionalism with eastern one. Chinese never had 10+ children like westerners did

Yes, chinese goods can be replaced, it will take a bit to create supply lines in several different more westeen alligned countries and prob mean a reduction of profits and less goods per individual but its possible

So basically, you agree that consumers will be worse off if we moved manufacturing from China to USA.

If we are going to make consumers worse off, what is your expected benefit for bringing back these manufacturing jobs? How much more people (percentage wise) will now be employed that weren't before as a result of this change?

There is no way a "canadian" is calling me a pajeet right now.
Tech jobs are struggling for multiple reasons outside of what we're talking about right now (AI, overhiring during COVID, shifting of market, etc.).

Yes because they reslized they made a mistake and with ccp i mean the xi jinping leadership but it doesnt work anymore. Its like the trump admin now trying to change society

The chinese companies are no different than the rest of the world

Thank you falun gong for your latest propaganda reel

Side with

You see retard, you don't have to "side" with anyone but just have a mutually beneficial relationship.

Sorry couldn't hear it over the dog screaming in your oven.

They need immigrants because if graph doesn't go up then everything DIES

Or maybe they can tough it out with less people until the population rebounds

This country will have to aggressively recruit immigrants if it doesn't want to only exist in history books.

Thats exactly how you end up only existing in history books. Racially alien immigrants do not augment the population of their host countries, they REPLACE them. If you replace half of Japan with pajeets its not Japan anymore.

pressured to marry young and have multiple children. That is wokeness

Depending on your meaning of "young" this is either a recipe for unhappy broken families or straight up pedophilia. Certainly not wokeness to not marry young. Look at Russia, the definition of anti woke country and they marry rather late

Yes.

Those wages are insane, why would anyone work for that with the required level of experience when they could do contract work for US companies and make much more? I guess it's stable but man some companies are cheap scum

They don't talk about climate change in China because they already have communism.

Well there will always be ladyboys, they were a thing before trannies were medically a thing and a LOT of middle aged men have fetishes for them for some reason. Whatever the reason I don't think it is possible to make them not exist, but the government can just not recognize them as women. Which is what China and Russia do

yup. weaponizing swift and the dollar were even bigger fumbles

Yeah, but then at that point we have re-introduced slavery back into the USA, and those dogshit conditions will pass on to every other legal citizen as well. Illegals in USA will still have to get paid 10x more than in China in order to even be able to survive with USAs cost of living. Also, 30 million immigrants is not going to replace 1 billion chinese workers.

I'm pretty sure that having lots of children was the norm in the past because of infant and child mortality rates. But the problem today is that they can't even get the average couple to have even 2
Yes and Russia has low birthrates, high divorce rates, high substance abuse rates, high STD rates. It's not a model country imo.

"Its very diverse ans inclusive"

us cities are way older

ameribrown zogbot edumication detected

POO STATUS: NOT IN LOO

Nice meme flag. But your antennae are showing.
BAC? Buggy Annoying Chink? K.
Weird flex.

citizen of chad doesn't realize he's talking about infrastructure instead of "this chong dong long, established 3k BC"

I don't think you can work remotely for another country, but some people work in Austria. Not every company is like that though. The starting wages are usually low but mostly only the foreign companies will list that much required experience for such starting wage. They probably wanted to put the advertisement in India or something. But I am just saying that people like this complain about job shortages the most

Yes? Shanghai is an artificial big city

Yes

Depends entirely on the good, but the overwhelming majority of them have low margins. Only extremely technical goods to produce such as chips have higher margins. If we are trying to replace chinese manufacturing, we will have to deal with low margin goods primarily.

Not for domestic consumption if tariffs remain in place and I wouldn't be surprised if other countries follow suit when they realize trading with China means losing your domestic manufacturing

Ok, so i guess we can have that, kind of going 10 steps back economically. Kind of reminds me of Holden cars in Australia, protected by tariffs, all other cars were more expensive, and we got worse quality. For most of history, high tariffs and isolationist thinking was used for economies, most western countries have become a lot better off with free trade if we are being honest.

Unless there's laws again it you can, there is some company that will hire you with the right experience and expertise. And yes this can be a strategy to fish for h1b visas here. But they have salary minimums, so they just try to hide the job post where nobody will look

China has not and will never “overtake” the US.
It’s on aid money. Its people are starving mistreated slaves.
An seething paki or a mental tranny you can gloat over msm garbage like a vaxxy with a vax pass but the reality is only a click of the screen away and you could just as easily look what people who aren’t paid by china or reuters tell you about china. You know, the truth.

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Russia is the very definition of traditionalist counrty. China had lower infant mortality rates 200+ years ago because they had more food security than European peasants and less diseases. Then 200 years ago there was humiliation and everyone was too drugged up to have children. Experts were actually predicting that Chinese will go extinct and they only started multiplying under Mao again, which is ironic because they also had their biggest famine under him

Huh, I didn't know that. I thought that remote work in general was falling out of favor in the USA

If we are trying to replace chinese manufacturing

I believe Bessent has said the main focus is things like processors, pharmaceuticals and other goods that are more essential. I think the blanket tariffs are just a quick shock to get everyone to come the table quickly instead of taking a year or two to work out

Look at their church attendence m8. Dont fall for the visuals, look st the spirituality of the society. Also, putin isnt a nationalist

I don't think they will overtake us in GDP per capita any time soon. But they're advantage lies in their massive population. They only need to have 1/3rd of the GDP per capita as the USA to have a higher overall GDP and become the richest, most powerful country in the world.

When it comes to becoming the new world superpower, population size plays a massive role, kind of inevitable that China will end up taking over USA (think they already have in total GDP).

Interesting take. Is it really beneficial to support slavery? Your perception of what is beneficial is very shallow.

Church attendance is low because in Slavic countries including mine, masses are constantly the same. Literally the same every week. I also stopped going to church when I realized that I have memorized the entire mass and I knew exactly what the priest will say next

Russia is the very definition of traditionalist counrty

By what measure? The most you can say is that they are fairly socially conservative and patriotic. That's not traditional alone. By marriage rates, divorce, birthrates, religiosity, substance use, std rates, women in education and workforce etc they are not traditional. If traditional doesn't mean your society is reproducing and forming healthy families it's a worthless label anyways
For many yes but if you have in demand skills you can get it

But that's not traditional. Church is not TV, if you think it's repetitive then you are not in touch with what it confers or your church or lineage is weak ane has lost touch with the source of its teachings

I liked some of the holden designs, I wish we could have gotten them in the US. Regulations are retarded.

That’s because mayo cunts devalued their dollar to shit like cheap trash so nominally USA makes more money but it doesn’t purchase as much as china. Uneducated maga incels can’t comprehend this.

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Lol, puton is pro islam becaise russia has always been multierhnic, right(in reality muslim birth rates are higher while ethnic russians are declining, foecing putin to be more le inclusive)

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>China’s shipments to the U.S. plunged over 21% in April year on year, while imports dropped nearly 14%

So not only are they taking in less stuff, they are selling less too. Doesn't sound like winning to me, ping pong

Russian people dont strike be as traditionalist at all, putin patriotism or russian patriotism is just anti western seething, its not even authentic, like china

Maybe patriotism is not the right word but having a sense of national or group identity and finding something worthwhile in it

this type of public apology is also very common in Russia. only there it's enforced by Caucasian and Central Asian gangs. both societies function based on shame and humiliation

To be honest, i really don't understand what "coming to the table" would even actually mean in this situation. This isn't something you really negotiate. If USA wants to start making processors, then they should just start making them, and if they can make cheaper or better processors, then people will start buying them instead of the Taiwanese ones.
If USA puts tariffs on china to protect its processor industry, then china would just retaliate and put tariffs on another successful USA industry (e.g. software), and now we are back to square one, and we are both worse off.
Only real reason to use tariffs is if i wanted to keep an industry for security reasons (like food/agriculture). Tariffs are really only valuable for poor/developing countries with very high unemployment rates and a young/developing industry.

poor people points

China devalues their country even more than the US retard. It's not free floating, they willfully devalue it to keep exports strong

hahaha not going to lie, me personally, i was a big fan of them as well, their flagship cars were actually super powerful and sounded nice/looked good. Always was a bit of a mystery to me why people outside of Australia didn't seem to like them. Kind of sad they died out :(

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What's this "we" shit? You have a US passport?

China's labor force is cheap, the product quality shows that obviously, but it isn't 40 cents an hr cheap.
30 million is a lot when you're not actually needing to replace a billion or even half a billion chinese workers. I don't recall the orange man stating that the plan was to mfg EVERYTHING in the US. Half of the plastic trash isn't even needed and there's A LOT of countries wanting to take china's mfg, I'm in one.
If the US wanting to significantly reduce it's imports from china wasn't an issue for china, this place wouldn't be filled with screeching chinese shills every other day. It's too obvious, mate.

Yea but not based on spirituality, more like seething, resentment.Thats what i mean with "authentic". Japan has an identity not based on resentment, it exist based on japanese tradition and culture for example. For china its century of humiliation and for russia eurasianism, soviet legacy

i really don't understand what "coming to the table

It's simple, TSMC is king and we want them to produce wafers here

security reasons

That's a big part of it

these "I'm Chuvash, I'm Tatar, I'm Mordvin..." videos removed every shadow of a doubt about the Russian Federation actively fighting Russian Nationalism. fuck I hate Pynya and the rest of these noviop dogs and they deserve to get executed

Pretty much everyone has some kind of positive identity even if part of it is rooted in resentment. I'm fine to give them that in the context of how traditional they are considering how many other things they don't have that makes it obvious that the idea of "Russia is traditional" is a huge meme not rooted in reality

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Western woke? Slave nation woke, it all means

brainwashed by the globo state.

At it’s root & core. Jonestown style.
China is THE very worst country for that along with the maybe the norks.
Russia bullies and censors it’s slave population more to achieve similar but Russia is bad for it too.
This board is banned to the russian people. If a real person as opposed to the shills we see from russia came here and they criticised that jew putin or the others who are running it’s scam war this is what would happen to them - pic related. 15 years in the gulag.
And all that shit the kremlin shills got away with starting spreading when people like me were tired from arguing with covid & vax BS, “traditional russia” that’s china style lying. Deliberately taking the truth and 360’ing it to stand it on it’s head. Lying that day is night and up is down. THE BIG LIE. Russia is a disgusting globo hellhole were all the globo subversion done in the west is done ten times worse but done not by subversion but rather with a boot on the peoples faces.
Where the population has been bred for slavery for thousands of years - in russia & in china the 2 great globoturd slave nations - that’s how globo roll there. They do not subvert freedom they outright already rule with their boot on the faces of the people and the shills who cuck to that while their own people are slaves to “elites”, grovelling to dictators, should get EXACTLY what is coming to them. Hard. With ballbearings in a sock. Before they take a dip in the river.

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Its propaganda as well. Why cant we ask tibetians how they feel about china if they see themselfs as parr of the chinese "family". "How do you feel about the west being mean to the han chinese, tenzin"?

we is the white western world. Australia is so attached to the USA that i almost don't even consider them as seperate countries in my head hahaha
That's a good point behind China moving away from manufacturing and you're actually right, manufacturing is a great industry for poorer countries with lower GDPs per capita to get out of poverty. China is at the point where it is too rich to continue manufacturing cheap goods, which is why there have been making a strong push towards high margin tech/services/etc. Even China doesn't want its manufacturing jobs hahaha

local supermarket's sales rise despite one customer paying 145% more than everybody else

wooooooooooooooow

gets his news from falun gong sources

what's wrong with falun gong, chang?

I actually agree that TSMC chips are a security concern and at least some chips (or the best ones) should be manufactured here. I've actually researched this one a good amount, and it's actually way harder to do in practice then even i thought it would be. The culture in Taiwan regarding TSMC is insane. TSMC is the equivalent of Apple/Google in USA. All the smartest people in Taiwan go to work in TSMC, and theres a very strong culture around it. I still believe we can get some TSMC manufacturing here, but the government would have to provide strong subsidies to compensate.
With that being said, i do think that a lot of the "security risks" with China are a bit overstated outside of TSMC chips, food, etc.

Its traditionalist, spiritual movement but anti communist therefore bad

China is at the point where it is too rich to continue manufacturing cheap goods

Alright, now I can't even take you seriously.

I don't think, I have literally memorized it. And you shouldn't lecture me because your churches are not churches at all, they have television and modern technology inside, and they have a holding microphone while ours have a fixed microphone (our priests don't walk around and dance like yours), which would be seen as degenerate here

Traditional?
Well yes. Bloody awful traditions.
Sod awful traditions in a country which should by right have a Swiss standard of living for all it’s people across the board because of the great natural wealth of the country - but instead what it has got a kgb jew (putin the richest jew in the world on paper, all of it stolen from Russians) led oligarchy of globo billionaires and they are NEVER going to give up the sources of their money and power and they will crash and burn Russia deliberately just to re-enact the cycle of failure which saw the oligarchy rise to power before they ever let the people have what by rights belongs to ordinary russians.
You fucking shills. You sicken me.
Perverted mentally ill crazies get used here and migrant 70 iQ mongrel stinkers, you know them because they are your internet audience because they are fucking arseholes, but you, you’re worse than rats. You’re lower than the fucking plague because you do this to your own people. & For what

fishblock

cooking oil

some cabbages and a water bottle of bad vodka

Not even for that. You identify with power, authority figures in your horror story unfree hellholes just to feel power, though you will never actually have any.
God if we ever go under and end up like that, like china & russia I’ll fucking do as many of you cunts as i can before they can stop me.

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Tibetans are exactly why the CPC will never fall, at least not with the will of Chinese people. Chinese people know that no matter their views on government, they will loose land if the government collapses and that means the end of the Chinese nation in the current form

I don't think Anon Babble was ever against censorship as long as it is done by the right people. When Trump was sending Israel critic to El Salvadorian gay rape torture camp, everyone was cheering for it because the guy sent there was a spic

Am i wrong? I'm talking about their medium-long term aspirations. Have they been pushing towards cheaper manufacturing or have they been pushing towards creating their own superintelligent AI and other tech (Huawei, BABA, DJI, chip manufacturing, etc.)?

By "too rich", i mean that GDP per capita is getting high enough were people working at a sweatshop (in the cities) expect a higher wage to survive. Just like you said yourself previously, countries like Thailand are starting to compete, because they can provide cheaper labour than China can. I am looking forward into the future, not talking about right now in this point in time. China operates on a 50 year time cycle.