TRUMP DEPORTATIONS FAIL

didn't that "border security bill" have limits that they would allow so many people through every month?
weren't those limits higher than the actual number of people coming through the border right now?
you need to stop lying, anon.
dems are 100% against border security.

dems are totally pro condom, anon

look at this condom security bill they tried to pass but the ebil republicucks shot down

it would allow you to use a condom after 3000 holes had been poked in it.

what a faggot you are.

muh due process

their due process is not a hearing
it's a determination that they don't belong here
and that's being done.
what constitutes due process isn't universal--you don't get the same due process for a speeding ticket as you do for a murder.
in this case, two things must be determined by the ice agent:
are they 14 or older?
are they probably tda members?
congratulations, that was the necessary due process.

trusting left/right brain state media outlets

for truth

My sweet summerfag child...

Without a hearing, any citizen could be accused of being an illegal and deported without having the opportunity to present the paperwork needed to prove otherwise to a judge. If you think the next tyrannical leftist in office isn't going to abuse that, you're incredibly naive.

this might surprise you, anon
but illegal aliens have never been entitled to a hearing.
not under bill clinton, not under obama, not under biden, not ever.
the due process has always been the same
this is just the first time in nearly 4 decades that people are seeing the actual standard being applied.

Now we watch them lose every election for the next 20 years or so

And yet Republicans fear a blue wave because they have failed to deliver on their promises and are now wrecking the economy with tariffs and other bullshit.

hey nigger LE DEMS don't have the congress and presidency. trump does, and he ran on mass deporting spics and isn't going to do it.

also, in your retarded scenario, let's imagine that I--an american citizen--were to get deported to libya.
okay.
i contact the consulate and fly home.
wow, that was hard.
drop the retarded victim head cannon--no one is ever going to try to deport me, and if they did it wouldn't be hard to get sorted out.
because i'm an american.

i contact the consulate and fly home.

sorry sir it says here you were deported for saying the K word. we cant help you. have a nice day

LMAO we're not going anywhere gringos
do something ur self if you got n issue HAHA

...
he is presently doing it.
also the border has historically low crossings
also, for some reason, people are bitching about paying illegals to go away.
if it's cheaper to do that than to put them through the process of deporting them, then what is your objection?

er um... i'm actually against deportations and i'm flinging shit because orangemanbad

oh, right.

he is presently doing it.

hes on track to deport 1-2% of the illegals here during his entire term. and NO ONE is self deporting after he made his statement about farm and hotel workers being "safe for now". the spics are never leaving, and will eventually get a reagan amnesty 2.0

neat.
i see you've never dealt with a consulate before...
in that scenario, you would be able to get a lawyer.
and, i would get the due process that i was afforded.
it's come full circle.
your "what if victimhood persecution scenario" really is that fucking stupid.
whoddathunkit?

How do you know they're illegal without due process?

but illegal aliens have never been entitled to a hearing.

What do you think immigration courts in America are for then? Jesus Christ, we really need to start teaching you kids Civics in school again...

blah blah

doom and gloom

oh noes!
i feel like someone this concerned with the progress of deportations
would be in favor of any solution that increased the rate of deportation.

All they have to do is ask the person if they are here illegally or not.
If they say "yes." They get deported.
That is the due process. If they lie they are facing a massive number of criminal charges for obstruction of justice, other things. 60 years in prison.

you're question doesn't even make sense...
their due process WAS the determination that they're illegal.
people are saying that they aren't getting due process because they aren't getting hearings--which they aren't entitled to.

What do you think immigration courts in America are for then?

immigration courts are here for visa overstays.
glad i could help you be less retarded.

i feel like someone this concerned with the progress of deportations

would be in favor of any solution that increased the rate of deportation.

the only solution is trump not being a sold out buttgoy but that ship has sailed. btw you talk like an aids ridden faggot

drumph baaaaad!!!!

he's deporting as many people as can be done within our legal frame work
and also paying people to go away.
what would you do differently?

er... uh... he's just BAD okay?!?

Immigration courts handle more than just cases involving overstayed visas; they also address various other immigration law violations, including entering the US illegally, and make decisions about whether an individual can be removed from the country or granted relief from removal. Again, you don't understand basic Civics which means you're just talking out of your ass.

Well it’s you Jews
Guess we will just have to kill all of you before we can get anything done.

You kill them first , god will give them due process

Is there anything in the constitution that says a known illegal gets a hearing before a judge to explain why he is here illegally?
What is the judge supposed to do? He is here illegally. After the hearing, the illegal gets deported. Judges don't make foreign policy.

wow, nice sophistry.
your position is that the existence of immigration courts implies a right to hearings.
that is not the case.

The market's don't align with your sentiment

You will lose midterms

The 5th Amendment's Due Process Clause prohibits the federal government from depriving anyone of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. That's anyone in America, not just citizens. This is upheld by later Supreme Court decisions too (i.e. Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 [1886]).

Again, take a Civics class, you retards.

Anon Babble is full of cope, deporting "illegals" isn't going to put a dent in non-white demographics considering there are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of non-whites in America who are there "legally.
Anon Babble will cope and seethe about this for eternity and make excuses, but they have no proper response to this.

your post is a nonsequitor, anon.
you are making the claim that they are being deprived of their due process rights.
i'm pointing out that they aren't.
nothing in the 5th amendment says you are entitled to stand before a judge.
the due process for removing an illegal alien is the ice agent determining that they are an illegal alien.
it's not hard.
it's actually very simple: due process is not the same in all circumstances.
american citizens that get speeding tickets aren't entitled to a jury trial.
illegal aliens aren't entitled to a hearing.
simple as.

they won't do shit, you won

I'm pointing out that they aren't

You're literally arguing they don't deserve a trial so you don't even understand your own arguments. Seriously, go back to school or something because how are you even functioning in the real world rn?

You're literally arguing they don't deserve a trial

i'm not arguing it, i'm stating the fact that they aren't entitled to a trial.
your understanding of due process is that if a border hopper sets a single foot on american soil, and an ice agent sees them, that they have to be arrested, processed, and then stand before a judge.
that is not now, nor has it ever been, the case.
ice agents have the authority to make determinations and initiate deportation.

Dem border security bill

uhh the 20 million illegals will have to be citizens

and also few million illegals per year will have to be citizens

and they will receive all the social services

uhh thats our border security bill

If only America had proper rail infrastructure

heh heh Dems are totally for border security !

Like I said weird angle to play considering all Dems do is whine about Trump’s deportation
I guess it might work in the mid terms but they need to really step up their anti immigration platform instead of posting random memes

Trump failed because his administration isn't doing enough to deport

Meanwhile in reality it's actually

Some lower court judge in cumslut county Oregon who according to the Constitution should not have this power has vetoed a totally legal actiontaken by the president to ensure the security of this country because they really fuck with gardener Juan or however the case is judged

You're just burying your head in the sand now because you know, deep down, what your arguing for is unconstitutional and tyrannical but are too myopic / caught up in sunk cost fallacy to see it.

The moment he didn't pointed to the real people behind the degeneracy it was over.

nbcnews

few lower courts try to actively block all deportations and require individual court cases for all 20 million illegals that need to be deported

Courts that interfere with basic government duty to protect border security would naturally lead to a constitution fight wouldn't it?

If every one of those challenges went up to the Supreme Court you would run into the same issue

you're just burying your head in the sand now because you know, deep down, what your arguing for is unconstitutional and tyrannical but are too myopic / caught up in sunk cost fallacy to see it.

no u.

lol.
i am stating the facts: what constitutes due process is not the same in all situations.
americans who get speeding tickets are not entitled to a jury trial the way americans who commit murder are.
illegal aliens are not entitled to stand before a judge the same way an american who gets a speeding ticket is.
it's all for the same very practical reason: it costs money to do these things.
tax-payers have to pay a prosecutor and a judge.
the building to hold all of these proceedings has to be paid for.
if it cost a dollar a minute for court time, and it only took one minute to process the 20 million illegals that should never have been here in the first place, that would cost tax-payers 20 million dollars just to hold 1 minute hearings.
in reality, hearings last much longer than that and are much more expensive.
there's no reason to place that burdon tax-payers, which is why the due process that you are entitled to for speeding doesn't include a jury, and why illegals aren't entitled hearings at all.

You're trying to redefine what "due process" means with absolutely zero respect to the Constitution, meaning your arguments are nothing more than head canon at best. Again, try harder and take a Civics class or something idk

you're trying to redefine what "due process means"

no u.
i'm pointing out that due process is not the same in all circumstances.
suppose you were to run a red light and get a ticket in the mail from a traffic cam.
you would go into court and say that

I HAVE A RIGHT TO A JURY TRIAL AND A RIGHT TO FACE MY ACCUSER!!!1!

and then the judge would laugh at you
because you don't actually have a right to either of those things in that situation.
just like an illegal alien doesn't have a right to a hearing after being caught here illegally.

More like Jew Process

You absolutely have the right to go to court over a traffic ticket if you believe it was unjustly issued or if you disagree with the charge, dumbass

i'll just move these goalposts

yes. i said you have a right to go to court for a traffic ticket.
the point was that due process doesn't look the same in all situations.
when you go to court for your traffic ticket you are not entitled to a jury or the right to face your accuser.
you know this, just as anyone who read it would know it, but you're forced to argue for something that you know is wrong.
which is why all of your "points" aren't really points at all.
sophistry is all you have when the truth is against you.

Yes, I concede I was wrong about due process

Is all you actually had to say there. FTFY

How many didn't get in in the first place?

The deportation numbers include people captured at the border and turned back before they enter the country. Trump's "problem" is that there are less people trying to cross in the first place because they're scared of being caught now.
Say under Biden 2,000,000 people attempt to cross and 30% are rejected. That's 600,000 deportations.
Say under Trump 1,000,000 attempt to cross and 50% are rejected, that's 500,000 deportations.
But what gets reported is that Trump has fewer deportations than Biden. Strictly speaking, it's true.