We stopped widening roads because of woke leftism

Actually yes, but also ring roads.
It's a psyop that efficient car-only city is impossible, leftists just hate individual transport ideologically.

Maybe the issue is zoning and america being designed for needing a car in the first place. We have an excess of room in America but bureaucracy is the issue. Where I live they are widening the interstate from 2 lanes to 3 lanes over a 25 mile stretch. It is going to take 15 years for the project and they started in 2018. Now that we are halfway through they are not halfway done and it will take longer. I don't see any argument on how this project can take this long and by the time they are done it will need to go from 3 to 4 lanes. Then they have to tear it up again because they designed it for 3 and have bridges too narrow.
Another area had a highway widened from 1 to 2 lane over a 0.25 mile stretch. This took 2 years to accomplish. That same 1 to 2 lane area is being extended another mile down the highway due to new neighborhoods and traffic. It will take an estimated 4 years to widen that road and will have to eminent domain dozens of houses since they are too close to the new road after being widened. It is all a giant mess but these projects should not be taking more than 1 year per mile of road.

Roads this wide just seem fucking retarded. A nightmare of constant merging, and missed exists. One accident or maintenance event could shut down what should be multiple highways. Idiotic

Nice looking, but the speed limit ist gay and a sign of bad driving skills

the more freedom the civilian has less prestigious being an oligarch feels

This sounds pretty gay. You're going to love driving your kids to every event. Sounds bloody exhausting.

That's 100% France, they banned domestic commercial flights by making stuff up about them being inefficient (they are actually more energy efficient if you count lost time). They just hate the idea of average person being able to fly often.

True.

Ban long range trucking and put freight on trains where it belongs.

At a certain width, there really isn't a good ROI on highway expansion. This is literally what happened in LA.

What's even worse, is that many of the highways in America have led to increased crime, poverty, and pollution, essentially killing off whole communities and leaving America with "dead cities."

Those are interstate bypasses and they are built quite regularly

Naypyidaw?

AI regurgitating absurd communist propaganda

Thanks for reminding me how much I love living in the middle of nowhere

Niggers killed cities. Every single effort in creating a transportation network with zoning and things 20 - 30 minutes away without sidewalks is because EVERYONE, including niggers, hates niggers, and we're supposed to pretend like we don't because of jews. JEWS hate niggers. Try moving into a historical jewish neighborhood. They won't let you.

Fucking roads going around stabbing people and stealing their wallets.

People don't want thing they just think they do because it's there

This is a bigger kike grift than gender.

Ring roads won't solve shit. Both the DC beltway and Baltimore's 695 are ring roads. The region has some of the worst traffic and accidents in America.

It still happens sometimes

Road are public transport.

But adding more lanes never fixes the traffic!

That's because every driver is a self optimizing agent that will select the fastest route based on all the condition factors. If adding more lanes seems to keep the freeway speed about the same that just means more people have selected to use the freeway rather than city streets. Switching people from the roads of the city to no longer be used for distance travel but now for end connections.

If you have enough lanes on the freeway and enough connects off into the streets near to end locations it will move at full freeway speed. when you take a 1960s freeway with 4 lanes and take it up to 6 lanes and see no change in average travel time it just means that freeway needed 8 or more lanes with the proper end connections.

Think of it like trying to fill up a water tank that is in use, and you lay in a brand new pipe and say now we can fill this tank but it doesn't fill. That's not because the pipe is not working it's that you undersized the expansion pipe to meet the actual demand.

america is not "designed" to have cars

things are the way they are because of laziness and thats how it was most convienant to do it

they werent thinking about millions of people smashing and running peoples over and their guts on the highway when they invented cars 100 years ago

they were just "point a to point b fast make more money "

so theres no logic to the vehicle system whatsoever even robotic ones humans shouldnt be anywhere near these powerful systems

you should have a grocery store within 50 feet of your home and thats it you dont really go anywhere you use a bike and what have you low powered alternatives like golf carts and e bikes

we made a bad system and now were stuck with it out of custom

Commercial vehicles on the ground level, private on a level above it.
Stack the lanes, don't spread them out.

Actually yes, but also ring roads.

Ring road is kinda amazing for getting around. This one only took like 50 years to complete.
With the RR no point in the city is more than 15min drive from any other point, and 90% is less than 10m.
Size is 20km by 24km

Yeah, DC is the worst traffic nightmare in america, and yet fags keep insisting all our problems will be solved if we make all our roads like they are in DC.

There were actual black communities with their own stores, factories, banks, etc. Where do you think the American government built their highways, so that the new suburbia could access the cities? Even the new pope's family moved, because they built a highway through his ancestor's community. This is all very easily researched...
npr.org/2021/04/07/984784455/a-brief-history-of-how-racism-shaped-interstate-highways
history.com/articles/interstate-highway-system-infrastructure-construction-segregation
bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-urban-highways-infrastructure-racism/
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094119023000438

cataclysmically retarded
youtube.com/watch?v=bQld7iJJSyk
The train is superior

First of all as shown on the pic, adding one more lane improves throughput. There is some diminishing return on that, but in general if you added a lane to every road in the country right now things would've improved as far as it goes. This is however a kind of a side point because there's more important think to talk about.
Induced demand also works on public transport - make it any better and the cities will become more dense, making any improvements cause overcrowding, which will necessitate further improvements which will bring more people in. In the end the issue is that the modern society operates in a way that is unmanageable for the scale we're trying to make it run.
You cannot have giga-metropolitan areas where people are meant to do constant job hopping without transport issues, whether it's congestion or shit public transport. If you look how cities reduce the amount of cars in them it's the most ass-backwards thing you can think of, the attempts to improve public transports bring very meagre results, so instead of that they're making it annoying to drive a car.

The obvious solution is to get rid of freedom of movement and reintroduce slavery or at least serfdom(so people stay in any workplace, whatever close to their homes), but you faggots are all too left wing communists to accept that.

Canada doesnt have one good road across it. half of the route is a fucking 2 lane and plenty of it has a terrible surface. its total shit driving here.

If got rid of all illegals traffic would decrease AND be safer.

They are called railroads.

Why is it when my house gets expropriated I begrudgingly move somewhere else but when Jamal's section 8 apartment that he pays $100/month for (from his welfare check) gets demolished he has no choice but to stab whitey?

Based but you forgot cutting all trees and replacing meadows with massive box stores and strip malls

yeah you could even make them require a special vehicle and have designated stopping points, and make them out of steal so they don't wear out.
call it the Trade Routes And Industrial Networking System

make them out of steal

It literally is designed for cars when you have the concept of supermarkets being dropped on the outskirts of towns instead of in the center where people live. That all mainly falls on zoning and boomers copy pasting zoning laws. If we had smaller markets and businesses in the center of the 300 house subdivisions it wouldn't be bad. And because everyone owns a car it is just written off as drive there.
The way we are going about things of saying cars and bikes have to share the road is retarded and if you ever have had a bike fag in front of you on a winding country road then you will know what the frustration of being unable to pass due to blind spots while the bike fag takes 3 minutes to go slightly uphill. Bikes may make more sense in jew york city or whatever hellhole the majority of the country lives in but more rural areas were designed for cars. You can't just put up 50 grocery stores because each house is a mile apart.

ai self driving cars with low kill rate doesnt solve the issue either because youll still have the road system blocking the trees and nature from forming and its not open to the public and its controlled by corporations

and youll still have some deaths when the road falls through into a sinkhole or something or the bridge collapses

why not just have trains and elevated rail systems and the people can freely walking around in nature with fruit trees growing outside instead of development and more wild food

ai self driving is certainly safer but is that even superior to just having flying cars and safer systems and localized stuff

elon is going to stop us from having flying cars
by pushing robotaxi shit

so its better but its not the be all end all you can never make it immune to injury

self driving cars will always have a kill rate built in the car can explode or the battery fail the wire breaks whatever it is

that is stupid. you are creating a solution that makes the network inefficient. Trucking network is the most elastic network, unlike train which is less elastick than even air freight. Network requires lot of elasticity to meet demands efficiently. You move everything to rail, which would be impossible mind you without even more rails laid at costs of billions, you end up with soviet level efficiencies.

Two-lane highways are actually fucking bullshit

That looks dangerous. What if something happens in the middle of the road or one has to stop because the car breaks down or something? I would not want to drive in those mid lanes.

Build some railways so you don't need all that much car traffic. Trains are very good for cargo.

No one really drives a 6,000km route from end to end of Canada unless they are making a trip of it.
Most of the 2 lane road part is in Ontario over the Canadian Shield and is low traffic enough that the massive cost of twinning the road hasn't been justified. More so when you can cross into the USA and drive Toronto to Detroit to Winnipeg, in 20hours rather than Toronto to Thunder Bay to Winnipeg in 22 hours.

why yes, I love paying more taxes

globohomo is up to something today. This is the 3rd thread about "we need bigger cities", a couple are out right calling for 15 min cities again. Whats going on?

Highways and cars have their place but the way they are overemphasized and the only option in many scenarios lowers quality of life, safety and traffic efficiency and makes a sclerotic, fragile mess of the national infrastructure as well as creating very unpleasant places to live that have low value and thus low long term investment while still having high maintenance costs.
But highways, roads and cars do have their place... outside of cities and urban zones of a density lower than one would expect if the national transportation strategy was made by competent traffic engineers instead of car lobbyists and the politicians they influence.
t.bike chad

is reddit down again?

Gross, I for one enjoy how LA air quality has massively improved in the last couple decades and look forward to continued change. Enjoy your asphalt you pavement apes

Kill all nigger loving city fags

your impression of the world is to allow people to die in accidents and relying on you being one of the people who doesnt die

its a failed system out the gates and programmers would know its called a glitch or error in the code for vehicles on highways

if it were a program simulation

you will have people dying and you not dying does not justify the highway system

its still broken

it was the most convienant and simple way to just lay down roads and use dangerous heavy vehicles for humans its not right

we need horses and carriage again and low powered alternative and phase out cars

That's because the democrat nigtards allowed millions of shitskin invaders in

Why is there so much anti car woke bullshit?
If you're American you should fight for your life to retain the right to drive.
Do you really want to start getting mugged when buying a subway ticket?
Do you really want to listen to the hooting and hollering that comes from riding public transit?
Do you enjoy having simple tasks like going to the grocery store take 4x as long because you're forced to wait 45 minutes for a bus?
Do you really want to have to walk when it's 95F or 20F outside?
Fucking idiots. Cars solve literally all of those problems.

Fuck. Please build that over Montreal.
Make it as ugly as possible and make it loop around residential areas.
Please God, I never asked for much.

incorrect

even one 5000 lbs vehicle on the road is too dangerous for humans somebody is going to die

this is not how humans were supposed to live

the horse you can fall off of one and still survive

a car has baked in deaths of humans

even ai powered ones theres always a failure rate to them which will throw people off a bridge

bicycles are safe when theres no cars around

but cars make them dangerous you cant have any out there

Trains are very good for cargo.

Trains are very good for bulk cargo that's not time sensitive and come from single collection areas to single demand areas.
A line of trucks carrying ore from a mine to a smelter likely should be on train or boat. A cargo train delivering the daily retail store items for a gas station should be a truck.

This has been studied extensively, widening roads does NOT improve traffic, it only works for a short time, before the number of cars increases (because having wider roads makes people think it's easier traffic conditions are better, they buy more cars), and it becomes 10 times worse everywhere, including the very wide highway. The solution is something Americans call communist propaganda, it's called public transport.

How it chews to feel gum five.

Thanks for being that guy. Read my post;
Explaining why adding lanes does work.

just 2 more lanes to stop the traffic
demand every second city block to be converted to at least 7 storey tall parking lot
minimum speed limits to keep grannies out of the roads
each city centre should have parallel elevated freeways at most each kilometer apart for improved throughput

every country in asia has a 7-11 right next to your house everywhere

america needs to fire boomers and get rid of zoning shit so they can put a store next to your house its not a "neighborhood" in the traditional sense without any ability to feed yourself without walking

you shouldnt need to own a car america is broken on many levels thats a barrier tto entry for a human has to pay for car insurance and registration to live?

not fair

I'm autistic, the post

Cars also solve the problem of incels being allowed within 4 ft of any qt.

Yes, they have spent years telling us that jewish nonsense. Its bullshit. More capacity = more capacity.

I don't know or care how good public transit might be in other countries. I just know it's fundamentally incompatible with us here in America.
It has never worked. It will never work. Myself and many others will make sure it never can work.

The only places where this is an issue are near large cities. All the land around the large cities is owned by someone. To widen them, they would need to get the people who own those houses to sell em, or use eminent domain to just take the land.
Either way, the only people who benefit are the yuppies who live/work in the area. Everyone else gets fucked.

Taxes wasted on things I'll never use

City niggers and regular niggers can now easily get in and out of cities

If you want this retarded as shit, you're either a yuppie who lives in a big city, or some one who's only reason to do things is "owning the libs".

It has never worked

You're wrong there.
In 1926 you could travel from Maine to Wisconsin all on streetcars.
America became great before cars were ubiquitous, when everyone rode trains and trolleys.

I didn't know someone was so invested into this. Okay, I'll bite. How do you explain European cities having 3-4 lane highways, sometimes single lane roads inside the cities, and yet not suffering from traffic conditions anywhere close to American cities? Even better, care to explain the case of Japan?

Building elevated highways costs 10x more because you need massive structures to cary the all the SUV weight.

america needs to fire boomers and get rid of zoning shit so they can put a store next to your house its not a "neighborhood" in the traditional sense without any ability to feed yourself without walking

Most suburbs do have commercial retail mixed in at the higher capacity roads making most people well within walking distance of stores.
What many Asians don't get is that in the USA/Canada suburban residents don't like buying food every day, they like to buy enough for 3+ weeks at time in a single big trip. That is too much for a single person to carry, so it gets loaded into a vehicle for transport.

People in the suburbs like to go for walking in the evening, more so for older people. They don't want retail stores on every street corner, and with cars they don't need that either.

2 more lanes will fix the traffic

it definitely would work in america because people in asia arent going thousands of miles to virginia from georgia

that shouldnt exist your state is more like a country in of itself

it wouldnt work because theres niggers and spics which are violent criminals

so what happens is white people cant function they have used the vehicle as a means of escape public transit

and you need a higher barrier entry to live driving up costs

because everyone has to own a vehicle to operate and car insurance and registration and gasoline and maintenance and car price

so america can never succeed because the demographics

the other exploit would be to make trains but put like a costco membership or something

these are the ways of whites getting around the civil rights act where u cant outright ban them from the train

But I can still easily do that right this second if I wanted, and it'd be three of four times faster doing it myself rather than being stuck on some smoke-ridden trolley with non-stop yapping.
Nothing comes close to the feeling of driving solo down an empty interstate with the windows down and some Van Halen blasting.

t. abject retard

you are among frens here, you can say jews

canadas roads are crap

just use the american highway system instead

lol

But I can still easily do that right this second if I wanted

kek, no you can't.
You haven't seen "The GM Streetcar Conspiracy" and it shows.
A cartel led by General Motors literally spent 30 years destroying the country's streetcar networks.

youtube.com/watch?v=0WORIrHpC8M

Van Halen

oh, you're a boomer.

no once again youre committing a fallacy here

"things operate this way therefore people like them that way"

in reality i just heard of complaints of my friend who said every week he deals with the problem of not having any food in the house and he cant get to town to go grocery shopping so he ends up ordering expensive doordash food

and it hurts him

its costing him big

due to living in the suburbs its much more expensive in that sense

nobody likes to prepare their own meals and chop up celery man people want other people to do that shit nobody likes managing a fridge full of stuff and expiration dates

This has been studied extensively, widening roads does NOT improve traffic, it only works for a short time

at least where I live (perth), that's because they wait 30-60 years after more lanes were needed, and then add just enough space to support road use 30-60 years ago

then some idiot social 'scientist' studies it and concludes 'hurr durr more lanes don't work', idiots studying planning done by different idiots

that just means they need more ring roads.
A large city needs 3-5

this.
big chains like Walmart wouldn't be able to dominate without the interstate.

I'm with the leftists on this one. Most people are terrible drivers and wider roads are even tougher to maintain. they're an eyesore too.

Who the fuck chooses to live in an American city?

Because both europe broadly and japan institute insane taxes on car ownership, and registration as well as tight ever changing emissions standards that make any car older than 5-10 years old prohibitively expensive to keep driving on the road. They use taxes and regulation to price the lower classes entirely and the middle classes partially out of car ownership. Singapore is the same way and probably the most prohibitive of all.

And who exactly us going to build those?

my grandfather stopped taking public transportation because niggers
my father stopped taking public transportation because niggers
i stopped taking public transportation because niggers

Build the lanes for trucks underground. Let them drive in the dark. Fuck truckers.

cool it with the anti-semitic remarks

The problem of congestion is down to bottlenecks and feeding an 8 lane road into a 2 lane road is only going to make the problem worse. Find the slowest points in the system and rearrange them to be faster or bypass them entirely.

No, we need to make cities more walkable and condensed and with more public transit/high speed railway. Urban sprawl is the death of Western civilization. Also, you're obviously fat, walk some more and exercise, fat fuck.

food comes from the store, amiright?

big chains like Walmart wouldn't be able to dominate without the interstate.

id much rather pay higher prices so that communists feel better than have a large chain of stores across the country which can offer big savings.

You can also consider the problem in terms of a time/space/volume framework.
After a certain transport density the flow mechanics of cars are simply going to be such that they consume space faster than they increase capacity by widening with roads due to driver reaction times, physical density, modalities of how the traffic will tend to flow in surges and more.
It's similar to the rocket payload problem, once a certain threshold is reached the system inherently becomes unscaleable and gains weight faster than thrust and can't get off the ground requiring new technologies or a different approach or changed requirements.

you sure know how to build a wasteland. about the only thing you said that isn't insane is get rid of photo enforcement.

JUST ONE MORE LANE BRO WILL FIX IT

Kek.
Every study ever conducted says you are wrong op
Wrong
retarded

More lane NEVER
EVER
WORK

BUT I WOULD

No

The reason you have congestions in traffic is always the same:

You drive from A to B

B is the destination for the majority of people

You can make 100 lanes to B but in the end the capacity is limited by the city B everybody is driving to

Literally a bottleneck problem-> The bottleneck is the inability to widen the bottleneck called city entrance/citycapacity because of buildings

You're talking to someone from the Seattle area. Here's how things have gone in my 40+ years.

major freeway needs a new lane

10 years after we needed a new lane a project gets approved

10 years later the extra lane is finally done

By the time we got an extra lane we had already needed *another* lane for over 5 years, but of course because they just finished the 20-year-long wait for another lane there is 0% chance of another one any time in the next 10 years.

Meanwhile busy streets that could've used a 2nd lane were instead given bike lanes. Bikers don't even use those lanes; they stay in the regular lane for cars.

Cyclists unironically would've benefited as much as car-drivers if we had added an extra lane instead of a bike lane.

I want to murder whoever invented the bike lane because it is one of the most retarded things in the history of humanity.

Big cities end up having bottlenecks. No such issues in smaller towns

I lirtaly swalloed car propaganda by jews my entire life

The Post

my son, when you are ready, you won't need to look up the early life section

just cross over to get off the 10 lane freeway bro

Asking for traffic jams

moron
the purpose of widening a road is not to "improve" traffic, it is to increase capacity and bring in more money for the board.
The immediate effect of this is to reduce congestion. Over a period of ten years, the increased capacity leads to a great deluge of economic activity: new businesses are built, the distance between you and services decreases, efficiency is improved. Then of course traffic is the "same", prices are lower, but your journey is shorter.

Good. Cars are cucked. It's no coincidence that Europe, Japan and Singapore are also bastions of high culture, better social cohesiveness and slimmer bodies when car ownership is prohibitive. Literally the only good platform of Democrats is the banning of cuckmobiles.

i stopped taking public transportation

sorry you got beat up on the school bus?

>things are the way they are because of laziness and thats how it was most convienant to do it

not even
it's more expensive and less convenient
Just look at how Amsterdam and America developed from the 1960s onwards
youtube.com/watch?v=vI5pbDFDZyI

but America bigger

lmao, have this one:
youtube.com/watch?v=REni8Oi1QJQ

you have never been to rural america

Atlanta has these but you must pay a fee(plus tip)

I didn't know someone was so invested into this. Okay, I'll bite. How do you explain European cities having 3-4 lane highways, sometimes single lane roads inside the cities, and yet not suffering from traffic conditions anywhere close to American cities?

Well you would need to compare like for like.
The only cities in the US with bad traffic have very large population. Cities in the 500,000 people range generally don't have bad traffic unless they have a river with only 1 old bridge.

Greater Los Angeles has 18 million people. 18 million people = massive dedication for transport which will always be stressed no matter how good it is during peak.
Paris has 11 million people and has terrible traffic and transport. It takes an average twice as long to travel the same distance in Paris as LA. Paris has an average speed of about 35km/h while LA has an average speed of closer to 70km/h.

You can check this using the Google maps route planner.

Even better, care to explain the case of Japan?

It's even worse. While Tokyo has a nice subway system, if you are not on a route you're kind screwed for getting around. They also have 8 lanes highways running all over the city. How they avoid many of the most critical traffic problems is having a very diverse land use. Which is to say everywhere in Tokyo can be a destination. They don't have a downtown they have 5.

saudi arabia had a fix for this

Cars are driven by humans. The reason it doesn't reduce traffic is the human element. People will turn a 20-lane highway into a parking lot, because there will be increased fuckery as everyone drives like they're the main character.
If one car goes from the left/passing-lane to the exit/off-ramp and it causes several lanes to brake ona four-land highway...what happens on an eight-lane? Again, we have real world examples of it not working.

You want to fix traffic? Make everything you need to live accessible in your community (e.g. markets, retail, schools, work, entertainment, etc.). Cities, especially walkable/bikeable ones, used to be the answer but they built highways that killed that so people could spend hours in traffic to live one place and work another. The best answer at this point is mass transit, not mass serfdom.

We have a city kind of like that in Maryland, and it's considered one of the best places to live in America. It has bike lanes, sidewalks, mass transit, etc combined with multiple parks, entertainment venues, hospitals, schools, residential (apartment/townhouses/single-family homes), etc. all in mixed and split-zoning.

Developer James Rouse founded Columbia in 1967, aiming to create a community that would avoid the inconveniences of then-current subdivision design; eliminate racial, religious and class segregation; and reduce leapfrog and spot zoning development.

I like to based ideas off of evidence, and this is a pretty good practical for how America could work and look.

Well of course i *assumed* it's a jew, but I don't have any proof

It's 2 hours faster. Not because the road is a 2 lane highway, but because the US route is 200km shorter.

Driving in the sand?

The worst cities to live in here in America all coincidentally have the "best" public transportation systems.

oy vey stop noticing

try again, moshe

singapore

social cohesiveness having anything to do with cars

They have high social cohesiveness despite their true multicultural demography because LKY's influence has managed to remain and they physically beat and execute shitstirrers for the smallest offenses. You have no freedom in Singapore but if you can tolerate living in those conditions it is very clean and orderly. You'd think more libshits would love that place but go figure when they see that the sausage making process involves killing drug dealers and beating the shit out of disruptive niggers they lose their appetite.

no i meant the transition from horse and carriages

if you throw down some roads with your fast engine and heavy metal frame you dont have to worry about who dies in the future you can just plop them down and every american will adopt it

1 million deaths per year world wide

the whole concept goes against logic and they do it to get to point b quicker than in prior times without thinking about consequences

non-troll solutions to shit traffic hell instead of making it bigger.

instead of giant shitty parking lot, invest in vertical parking

solve all your parking problems

and also theoretically with parking lots using empty land it will take less time/distance to get anywhere

close loopholes like dark story theory, ban loss leaders, shutter blight box stores, as to break up samey shit stores

closing all walmarts and opening up specialty stores instead will instantly improve local economies instead of siphoning money to walmart capital in georgia and sponsoring welfare negro lives

instead of strip malls and big boxes, invest in mixed density live/work

any person that lives upstairs and works downstairs is not commuting on the roads

instantly less traffic/stress/infrastructure

town looks nicer

the only problem might be biological factors but turning your city into a dystopian hellscape won't fix it
libertarianism great when you're all farmers but not when the city gets crowded and you need a hand to develop it

they did not allow women to drive until a few years ago

Come on man, this wholesale condemnation of your part is bad for actually achieving any change
Biking in the Netherlands is extremely comfortable, benefiting national health and overwhelmingly safe and they still have lots of cars going around
People still do die on bikes and of course from cars and in cars but cars in and of themselves are a valid and important transportation technology.
As are trams, trains, buses, planes, bicycles and our legs.
The important difference is they build intersections, roads, mergers, bike paths, neighborhoods, housing zones and city plans differently
Also stop redditspacing, it's fucking annyoing

Suburbanite has an opinion on what makes a city good to live in

People who actually live in cities have needs that are more complicated than "being able to get to the football stadium and park easily"

"things operate this way therefore people like them that way"

Yeah, people that don't want to live in a suburb don't have to. They choose to live there.

in reality i just heard of complaints of my friend who said every week he deals with the problem of not having any food in the house and he cant get to town to go grocery shopping so he ends up ordering expensive doordash food

Your friend is a retard. Why can't he drive to go grocery shopping? For a single person you can carry about a week's food by hand, so even on busses or walking.

Maybe your friend can't cook.

once
there was a kid who
took a trip to singapore and brought along his spray paint

Since the libs are all in on weed legalization there's zero percent chance they'll ever support Singapore.

no theyre objectively not important

if you have mini marts on every corner and everything in walking distance you dont need a high powered vehicle that goes 80 mph that kills people that weighs 10,000 lbs

netherlands has car deaths each year too so you have just accepted that into your world forever into the future that people will die

you have a failed system

if red 40 kills even one person to cancer i want rfk to ban it

why would i eat red 40

same with cars just because you go faster cuz ur a adhd weirdo freak speeding down highways doesnt mean i want you to be able to do that

i would be ok living in a city if it didnt have any niggers

really depends if you get stuck behind someone. because its a shitty 2 lane you can barely pass.

That isn't racial, but class. Poor people have less political power, whether its railroads, airports, new highways, wind turbines, radio towers, etc

90% of traffic problems are caused by trucks. Ban trucks from the roads from 6am to 8pm and boom, everything will clear up instantly. Also build more light freight rail in areas that currently just use trucks for everything.

Dangerously based.

Based af.

theres many reasons number one he doesnt have a car

number 2 to make a grocery trip takes like 30 minutes each way

sometimes youre just not capable of making an exhaustive trip when you just want a snack

you would have to plan your entire week around getting just enough stuff on your weekly trip to the grocery store and it costs gas money

its nearly a pain in the neck to live in the united states period in asia you just quickly get anything u want dont have to manage shit and og on dangerous voyages at night time down streets you cant see shit on

dude are you retarded

Why paint lanes anyway? Where's my freedom to drive where I want?
Lanes are socialism!

Stimulate your senses

I do agree with you, there are too many traffic deaths and even a single death costs more than tons of delays
However there is a big difference between demanding more safety (reasonable) and expecting cars to be completely removed due to deaths occurring because of them
We have to navigate reality and go from there to where we want to rather than expecting ideals to manifest
The best way to reduce the amount of cars is to competently advocate for better infrastructure strategies where trains, bikes, trams, subways and pedestrianization are emphasized and funding allocations are improved.
Our car dependency is like a well-circulated cancer, you can't just cut if off immediately because the cure will be worse than the disease.
But starving it of nutrients will provide the circumstances to lessen it and eventually have the tissue return to functional biostasis and remove the cancer cells (car lobbyists and bought politicians).

Diaper Donny hasn't shit his pants yet?
Where are you living, everybody knows he reeks of shit.

do you think the people that drive slow / don't yield are the same people that abolished capital punishment?

considered one of the best places to live in America

that's really, really, really fucking sad. you might as well kill yourself.

Anyone who doesn't want to cut down all the trees and destroy wild life is a jew! Kill yourself money loving faggot you are spirituality a jew

In the next 30 years smart self driving cars are going to double or triple the road through put by removing slow stupid human reactions and replace it with networked cars talking to each other.

I can't recall the city/state but one US state started a driving program called Look Ahead trying to get drivers stopped at lights to look ahead to the car in front of the car in front of them and to start to move when that car starting moving, and to start to slow when the next car started to slow.

Smart cars will do the same thing but better. When a light changes every car stopped will all start to accelerate at the same time. They will all start to stop at the same time. Road congestion from speed changes on overloaded highways will be a thing of the past.

thats what you get for shitting on the tracks

You are right but your framing will fail to get support.
I agree with you on pedestrianization and having a mart around the corner.
It's comfy, more efficient and more profitable for everyone but car makers and the downstream/upstream benefactors who just need to be told to direct their efforts to better efforts by politicians that lead rather than just manage and meander.

Just one more lane bros I swear just one more lane

Induced demand is a meme

kek gottem

Trucks are useful for wider distribution.

Shit arrives in port

Send to warehouse in train

Send from warehouse to small town in truck

Unless you are living in Japan, going two blocks away from any main street in an Asian city immediately take you to slumlike conditions.
Pretty confident none of those people like living there. They'd take American suburbs 99 times out of 100.

Self-driving cars will solve traffic

"No they will not."
youtube.com/watch?v=oafm733nI6U

Everyone accelerates at the same time on a train lmao

they supposed to cancel medicine if it killed one person in a study

cars have a horrible track record of killing millions per year and we keep them around is inexcusable

i agree with doing whatever possible to get rid of it but here you are promoting the importance of vehicles still

theres not many things that you introduce and it kills millions of people in life this is a clear one where its the only thing really doing it

maybe cigarettes and alcohol or something

but that doesnt hurt other people only yourself

you cant bake into the universe a mass kill machine like that and take it for granted for ever when you can lay out a clear plan to not have them and have life work as normal in a high tech future

i believe in amish technology alongside cellphones and computers i dont detract from either

If you make a truck only lane, yes.

This. The US way of infrastructure is old and outdated and needs to go. Highways within city limits need to be dismantled, zoning laws need to fuck off and cars unironically need to be made prohibitively expensive to own and/or operate. If people want to live in the suburbs and rural areas then do so... cities are for walking and public transport. Fat fucks who unironically live half their lives in cars need to have their opinions muted as much as any blue haired troon libshit.

low crime

good healthcare

great k-12

real community

Why? What's bad about it? Again, I need real world evidence, not vibes...

The answer is simple retvrn to horses and bikes and remove all nonwhites
Pic related functioning city with no mobile internal combustion engines allowed except emergency services

do americans think there has only been woke leftism at the commands of the world for the since the invention of roads ?

just keep paying 200$ for a full tank of gas in your f250, timmy. tithe to israel or be brown forever

maybe the same people that can't be bothered to make decent roads in canada, where the one main highway runs through the middle of towns constantly, has traffic lights a thousand times and railway lines that function as speed humps. its a joke.

I have a car that I only drive to buy groceries and I intentionally don't fill my tank when I buy gas because I get more than a year's wroth of grocery trips out of a single tank and I buy food once a week.

Your friend living in the suburbs without a car should invest in a bike.

My main place I live is a literal 40 second walk from a store. The other place I live during the week is a ten minute walk from a store, maybe 15. Both are In good suburb neighborhoods on the west in the mountains

Yes, use public transport, our problem was is and will be to many cars in to concentrated areas, it pollutes it makes noise kill kids elderly and pets

Strapping bike lanes to roads is some mega retarded shit i'll tell you. If you want actual bike lanes to work you need to figure out where people live, where people want to go, and then have a path that doesn't allow for cars.
if you're not willing to invest in what will effectively be close to a bike-only street through a neighborhood (parks are another option but are less convenient) then people won't use it because it's a joke otherwise.
They added a bike lane where I live to some shitty road and it connects

a church at one corner of town

maybe a gas station next to the church if you cross next to a dangerous light

2 miles of suburbs

a nice park right next to some ghetto apartments

the park could be developed to have some more biking transportation effectiveness but this was never a priority there

a hospital? for when you want to bike to the hospital lol

a school kind of doesn't really connect well

And you still have to put up with car exhaust fumes while you're exercising and trying to get through streets against cars that hate your ass for making their roads narrower. Granted these retards with $80,000 decorative trucks ($140,000 after interest) shouldn't even be voting but hey.
It's not an attractive transportation option and it's not going to be unless you basically redesign cities from scratch or people become so poor they literally don't have cars and that affects the market significantly

Thats not how car deaths work. In America there is an allowable number of deaths per speed limit, as vehicles get safer speed limits have increased. If we set a max speed of 40 mph we could drop fatalities by 85%

Perhaps you are right and I should emphasize that cars aren't actually that important.
Though I do think individually controlled motorized transports will remain, regardless of how competently infrastructure is planned because it's a capability that you can't really replace by foot or bike trailers or trains/trams/buses
However it could be way, way less.

no theres actually very few people from asia who even imagine to immigrate to the usa its just some niche idea for a few people

they all love their country the most

koreans move back to korea from usa often times

for equivalent price they would rather live in cambodia than america your mcmansion would get you a castle for same price

you are giving retards too much credit

I want dedicated trucker highways. No more cargo on pedestrian interstate roads

why make MORE road when we could just have FEWER browns?! Did anyone think about that??

How will a pedestrian cross this road?
Clearly a video made by a retarded European. Push the fucking I want to cross the road button wait 20-60s and then safely cross.

soulless bug eyes. have some respect for your fellow anons

good goy

well if you read my posts i already said that i would agree with you i already mentioned lowering speed limits

but then it begs the question why not just not allow the car to rev up to 100 mph and just give them a low powered electric car like a golf cart that cant do a lot of harm to humans

with lightweight materials

so yea youre just saying what i already said which is a good transition to make

if you can only go 30 mph why not just get a ebike or some low powered alternative to a car

why stop at browns, why not just remove useless people like neets

are you still upset about losing your colonies, leopold?

DC is the worst

LA's even worse

Everyone accelerates at the same time on a train lmao

Actually no. As someone that worked on the railroad the head of a train can be moved at speed while the back is stopped. A long train has huge changes in it's overall length due to the slack in the connector and how stretched or compacted a train is. Many many car lengths of distance. Pic semi related that's the same train.

widening existing lanes and adding more lanes

No

increasing/eliminating speed limits

Yes. And executing anyone driving under the speed limit who is not slowing for a stop or a turn.

doing away with bike and bus lanes and photo enforcement

As well as making it legal to run over anyone on a bike.

narrowing/removing sidewalks

Whatever. This is dumb. Don't care.

increasing parking minimums and mandatory setbacks

getting rid of the EPA

Yes.

building new highways

Not really. But whatever.

Half your ideas are ok but don't go far enough. Half are literally retarded. You are a retard.

Even assuming the self driving cars you put so much stock in aren't plagued by technical issues, misue, sabotage and other such factors you still have the basic flow density problem of transportation that will always be present with the form factor of a car and is not present in trams, subways, trains, bicycles and foot traffic.

the good thing about not living in a communist state is that you can choose to pay more for the things you want if that makes you happier.

jew

It's probably not so much the so called "Induced demand" than it is people changing lanes constantly. It would probably be better to have more highways than a single wide highway with a lot varying speed.

You're tecnically correct, the best kind of correct
Stop busting my balls though please, you know what I mean when it relates to trains vs cars for transit from major geographically separated points of interest in daily surge patterns.

Fat fuck.

Kill all city nigger lovers

NO EXCEPTIONS

Death to all gen z/millenial niglets also

number 2 to make a grocery trip takes like 30 minutes each way

True. We really fucked ourselves with seeing all of our open land and thinking, "well, shit it's there, so may as well spread everything way the fuck out." There are even some cities like Jacksonville and Houston where having a car is mandatory. I've lived in at least 20 different states, and the best places were always the ones that had very dense integration of resources and services.

A single tank of gas won’t start a car over a twelve month period. Gas degrades constantly when sitting in your tank, so at best you might get six months out of a single tank before you blow your fuel pump when you try to turn the engine over.

Low IQ suburbanite who has never traveled to nigger free cities like Tokyo or Seoul detected. Keep shopping for your clothes on Amazon from your paranoid bunker in the suburbs you fat dysgenic fucktard.

The density issue isn't important when our roads can move 5 times the number of people they currently can. We can keep building cities like we do now only they won't have traffic slowdowns. Drive around a city that's slow during rush hour at 3AM and see how easy it is to get around.

kek why would you be mad at what I said though. You think the same far right that wants to remove browns want to keep neets ?

i never understand why people repeat this stupid myth. ive had trucks start after sitting for years, no problem.

Just get rid of the shitskins and there will barely be any traffic or crashes.

Bla bla bla. You're journey to anywhere would be unequivocally shorter if you never had to drive anywhere to begin with. Roadcels and fatasses will always stay losing.

Oh no... 30 minutes? 30 whole minutes? What a disaster! How utterly exhausting!

Your friend is a pussy. I drive 30 miles to get to town, it takes about an hour. I love driving. We are not the same.

Hmm, like trains...

Hmm, like trains...

I think these posters are communists!

cars are subsidized heavily
if you had to pay the real costs you wouldn't be able to afford driving

We build cities backwards. Putting the central demand hubs in the middle rather than in a ring around the central housing area.
The center of a city should be low density housing surrounded by a ring layer of commercial developments and then another wider ring of more houses.

Stay in your bike lane, or better yet, ride on the sidewalk spandex faggot.

I love driving.

That's because you're fat and can't walk anywhere. Post your stomach so we can all laugh at you, fattie.

In civil war 2.0 we will gas all city nigger lovers

I don't ride bikes, fatass. I walk.

A single tank of gas won’t start a car over a twelve month period.

Well you are wrong and...
Did you just fucking ignore the part where I said I don't buy full tanks of gas because I don't want to keep burning year old fucking gas?

If euroniggers had to pay for their own national defense cost you'd never have free health care

so you love being inconvenienced because americans have niggers u would ordinarily be able to get on a high speed train for 2$ instead you pay 300$ for insurance and 800 per month payment

ur a dumbass

netherlands almost knows how a white society should function with all the bikes and shit

Kill nigger lovers!

You're not fooling anyone. Make sure you stick your arm out when you decide to cut across 3 lanes of traffic for some inexplicable reason

Oh meant to post this picture.
I have a German engineer joke/saying.

This is great that it works in practice but why does this work in theory?

The only thing you'll be gassing is yourself from being forced to walk over 10 feet, fat fuck.

It'll be fun watching city nigger lovers starve

paying the car loan jew

No thanks, my cars are paid off and would be unsustainably expensive if we had to pay $8/gallon gas. Having a 20 foot long, 5,000 lb land barge is my God given right as an American. I even have a diesel Mercedes just for the hell of it.

waow.Moar lanes to accommodate the swelling shitskin population.

it should be your right in like a arena with dirt for doing stunts and mudding or whatever its called

not for driving on the street next to people endangering everyone around you

it should be illegal to own a high powered modern vehicle in my opinion

not own but operate near people

Fatties seething. Once we deal with the blue haired troon freaks on the Left, we have GOT to deal with the fatass, cultureless redneck problem on the Right. White culture is not just driving Ford 150s 40 minutes away to the nearest WalMart at the local strip mall.

Yeah, of course roads aren't congested at 3AM, but that proves nothing about transport system efficacy
The surges are what a transportation system needs to be able to handle, it's the whole point of thinking about transportation in a systematized sense in the first place
There's few people out on sidewalks and bike paths too and the trains that still drive will not have many people or carts.
The fact remains that trains are better suited to handle regular routs of interest at lower use of land and better experience if properly integrated and funded at the expense of maintaining a road networks that is more expensive for less utility in mass transit.

I think there is no one topology that can be pointed to as better but density and proper transportation in the zone is what matters
Anyways, I need to do something else now, it was fun talking to you

kek
I don't know man, I just want to zoop across Europe at 250Km/h on high speed rail and have the 30 minute transit schedule timing in major cities and the periphery of them while being able to get around with a bike in rural areas too because it's not actually that hard to have a bike path besides the road
In fact I use one exactly like that and it's great and could be even greater
The scheduling especially already works in other places where infrastructure is competently planned and funded
Sadly we host an increasingly parasitic and ineffective auto industry.
Cheers mate, wishing you a great week.

I know the concept of traffic is terrifying to you bug SEA monkeys because you drive like fucking animals. But in our country, we have cars, not the little moped tuktuk death traps, and our buses follow traffic lights and don't pass people on mud-slicked mountain roads with a 200 foot plunge and no guard rail.

Based. Bangkok is unirnonically nicer than literally every city in the US. Imagine being an American and being proud of these shithole cities that have been surpassed by literal third world countries.

Based and horse pilled. I'm tired of seeing fools die so they can get to Mr. Goldberg's job on time.

Pretty typical that a city slicker bicyclist faggot would be so wrong. White culture is inseparable from car culture. Driving a magnificent piece of engineering is what separates us from fucking Russians riding the commie bus and living in 20 story apartment blocks. You will never take away our cars

Nigger lovers loving niggers...

Fail

would be unsustainably expensive if we had to pay $8/gallon gas

Based. Put on some walking shoes fat ass. You're an embarrassment to white men everywhere.

Ladyboy enthusiast detected

Did you forget to put on your reflective clothing this morning and almost got run over? Kek

Car-dependent infrastructure really took off in the mid 20th century, which was a time when Americans reading Popular Science magazines assumed that all traditional ways of life were superstitious nonsense and that they were living in THE FUTURE! which meant whatever new ideas they came up with were automatically good because they were new. The inverse also applied; any ideas that were old were automatically bad.

The types of walkable neighborhoods that many young, isolated, lonely, screen-addicted people are today dreaming of were not so long ago the ONLY way to build a city. Even if you go back to 1870 you find a world where a city had to be built around mass transit (rather than private motorized transit) and walking had to be the primary form of commuting, since there simply wasn't capacity for anything else. So it's not like it's impossible to build these things, they're very buildable, it's the car-dependent suburb that's the historical aberration; invented in the 40s/50s, popularized in the 60s/70s, institutional by the 90s. Even on America's relatively short time frame that's not that long. We've still spent more time on this continent with reflexively walkable infrastructure (+rural homesteads) than we have with car dependency.

And it's not impossible to go back. We just need the will.

i dont necessarily agree with scooters its more similar to a motorcycle theyre fast and high powered and dangerous

and even more dangerous when theres cars on the roads WITH the scooters

so im not a fan of gas powered high power scooters like that either

they do harm humans a lot

Nigger lover are not white

Fat ass rednecks eating overpriced slop at the strip mall McDonalds are not a part of white culture. Once the troons are dealt with, you're next.

why are americans so proud of their ignorance? always a complete lack of understanding followed by ego and chest thumping

Where are you even from? What kinda flag is that? Why do you obsess over us

Seething fat greasy sausage fingers typed this post

This boy lover wears spandex in hopes that random men check out his ass in public

Brown rapists rule you

Silence euronigger

Come in this neck of the woods making threats like that and you are gonna disappear

You fat ass rednecks are the most similar to niggers out of any demographic on this planet.

This closet fags sphincter is about to implode due to jntense butthurt

I am not going to walk 12 fucking hours straight just to go get my watch repaired in the city. You know who else walks to get from place to place instead of for leisure? The fucking homeless

Nigger lovers are niggers

You'd have to catch me first, fatass.

Presumably that would be pretty easy considering you're on foot and he has a car. Kek

nah, two more lanes.

I am not going to walk 12 fucking hours straight just to go get my watch repaired in the city.

That's because our cities are broken because of fat, low IQ, retarded redneck niggers like you.

Leftist are perma asshurt due to failing at life

They want everyone to be as miserable as they are

If I can run down what is basically a deer I can run down your twink ass, or just shoot ya for a couple hundred yards.

drive your car through a wooded forest

I can smell your low IQ through my computer right now.

Your cities are broken because of retarded nigger lovers like you voting democrat for decades

Raptor jesus fuck leftists have the mentality of bitches

It's always everyone else's fault

You're fat cankles would give out the second you stepped out of your cuckbox.

Cities will never be livable until this country's demographics return to the 1930s. Until that day I am staying as far away as humanly possible. Enjoy your homeless population though.

You've never seen a forest in your life, concrete jungle nigger

Keep voting democrat nigger lover

Keep crying lol

Wants better cities for white families, businessmen and commerce

Democrat

Lmao. Imagine being this dumb. We definitely have a low IQ redneck problem on the right that needs to be dealt with. This is just embarrassing.

The dream of the carbrain is to have every road be ten lanes wide, not a tree in sight with a strip mall on every corner. They want a longer work commute if they could have it. They enjoy the feeling of danger as they merge into morning traffic at 65 mph. They like waiting around the block for mcdonald's drivethrough in a lifted pickup. This is where leftists fundamentally misunderstand the issue and why smart cities will never work. Most americans actually want these things and love car culture more than their own family.

What cope I’m seeing, you aren’t gonna outrun me or a 3000 ft per second bullet

Post stomach, fat boy.

Thinking about random men's physiques is 100% niggersexual

You def are a democrat

Gay

based, fatties have no right to voice their opinion

NOOO WE NEED MORE ROADS

NOOO WE NEED RAILROADS AND COMMUNISM

Blimps.

yooo this gameplay is fire frfr

Said already by everyone else, but I hate this excuse. Obviously the politicians have their reasons to say this but how do these regular people believe all these lies...

People don't say this enough, but kikes took away our Zeppelins. I will never forgive them for that

Brown rapists rule you

Silence americas hat

Cope fatties. Don't forget to take your insulin shots.

Are you even a man if you don’t weight 200 lbs? I’ve noticed all the short men and fatties are incredibly defensive like you.

Are you even a man if you don’t weight 200 lbs?

Normalizing being fat like your redneck town

How very Democrat of you. Being fat isn't cool when "body positive" troons promote it, and it isn't cool when retarded rednecks promote it either.

Don't forget,after you tongue the nigger balls don't forget the anus as well

Only democrat nigger lovers obsess over random male strangers physiques

200 lbs is not fat at all if you are of a man’s height. So be quiet short goblin

Ultimate fatty cope. Yes people like me judge people like you out in public. You are disgusting and a net drain on the tax payers.

6'2" 180 lbs. Fat fucks like you will never know this feel. Enjoy your knee surgery.

That's a pretty abstract merchant but I still see it.

The antifa circle jerk misses you

Don't forget to donate $ to blm you nigger loving fag

6’2 205, I wouldn’t really want to be smaller.

implying 200 lbs is not fat fuck weight for 99% of the population

what a quintessentially american post

Keep posting things that aren't true if it makes you feel better. Fatties have to constantly make do with mental gymnastics to justify their unhealthy and low IQ impulsive life choices, so I'm not surprised.

Bragging to random men on the internet is Ricky Martin tonguing elton John's asshole level gay

Gb2grindr

The gay is strong with this one

Eugenicist = gay

Cope. Absolutely filtered by the white race. Definitely not gonna make it in the future utopia.

This boy enthusiast is so full of impotent rage

Just like a wannabe tough guy communist

Sure, 6'2" and 205 lbs is perfectly fine assuming you go to the gym regularly and packed on quite a fair bit of muscle. But we all know car cuck fatties don't go to the gym because it's a 40 minute commute one way plus 20% tip to the gas station cashier.

Interesting new approach but you're still the party of people who can't even maintain sidewalks. I'm sure we'll see you post this new false flag approach dozens of times over the next week before moving on the something else, so have fun while it lasts but you're still the people too incompetent to maintain sidewalks.

I can take the metro to anywhere in Minsk in 20 minutes. The only time I take a cab is when I buy food for a month and I need a car to take my bags to the entrance. I don't need a car.

Walkable cities of high culture and fast commerce in Communist!

Keep hiding in the woods from the public, insecure fattie.

Thinking

About

Strangers

Physiques

Is

Niggersexual

You are correct, but public infrastructure projects in this country are incredibly corrupt and inefficient.
They'll just build the 6 lane hwy, tear it down in a year to expand a water main they forgot about, spend another year building it back, tear that down to turn it into a hov lane, build it back etc etc
Nothing ever gets built here. Just look at Toronto for one of many examples. They've been working on a stretch of road on Eglinton for like two fucking decades it's ridiculous

damn straight

hearty kek

Couldn’t he just order groceries to be delivered?

Yes, you are being judged in public for being fat. The insecure voices in your head are correct.

6'5" got in a weight loss kick in school and once i hit 200 EVERYONE was like ok bro stop

Lol this communist cunt is going to cry like he's got perma pms until he dies

Real bad news nigger lover, you'll never get to decide what anyone else consumes

Most of these dysgenic retards who need to flex their pick up truck like it means something are not 6'5".

youtu.be/gjtRJCkSaiY
you used to be called the fat man if you weighed 200 pounds

I need a piano pepe

We wouldn't have to widen the roads, which in many cases isn't even possible due to existing development, if they weren't bringing in millions of stupid third world turds every year. Immigration is the cause of the clogging of roadways across the country. They brought in millions and made no provision for expanding any infrastructure including roads. The answer isn't to try to shoehorn the infrastructure needed to accommodate 100 million plus extra people who are already here and millions more every year. The answer is to get rid of all the millions of nonwhites they've brought in.

This boy lover is MAD LOL

He obviously can't afford a truck

ya I know. theres a guy in my neighborhood with 3 huge, never-muddy trucks and he's like 5'5" on a good day

Thank you for posting this anon. As someone who has lived in LA his whole life and has experienced daily traffic his entire life, you hit the nail on the head. They have added extra lanes and it literally does nothing for congestion. The problem are the people driving. Have you ever seen water flowing down a pipe all of a sudden no longer flow? Traffic should be like that but its not because its the stop and go drivers who cause the congestion. One bad driver on a stretch of freeway can cause congestion leading to an extra 5 minutes of driving.
Elon, while driving in LA, got the idea of The Boring Company as a solution to that problem. The idea is you create a non stop flow of traffic that elminates the human element.
All this to say that americans need to learn how to drive.

Better than flexing some bicycle like you haha

this post goes very hard

he thinks its americans in LA

oh sweaty

He obviously can't afford a truck

Post a screenshot of your loan payments for the car you think you "own". Then post another screenshot of your credit score. I need a good laugh.

Bike are just as gay as your pick up truck. Democrats and rednecks are two sides of the same American-cancer coin.

No car payments

Mustve touched a nerve

At least I know I've saved another thread from your extremely homosexual nigger love by occupying you here

in outer space?

There is no solution to this issue where Americans keep their heavily reliance to cars, this could be solved with trains, but for some reason Americans despise them, another one would be exclusive lanes for comercial vehicles but the issue persist when they arrive their destination, perhaps a wider usage of buses to travel between cities, but American hate those too

No sane real american wants a high speed nigger distribution system

removing sidewalks

removing bike paths

removing public transportation

You’re simply just destructive and retarded. We should widen the roads but you’re also a fucking retard. Public transport, walk paths and bike paths are the ONLY way to lower the terrible apocalyptic traffic congestion which all of our cities now experience.

taxation bad!

Go live in somalia

I mean yeah rush hour sucks but I don't see the big deal. Looking at the few stats we have, most countries have similar or even longer commutes than us. I like my surburb and walking around the neighborhood. I've never felt the need to walk to a shop or need instant access to some kind of downtown shit.

This road is for those places where everyone drives at the same speed side by side like retards. Slow drivers will block every lane.

Sure thing buddy, no payments except for insurance, gas, registration, parking, toll booths and all the other endless schemes that come with owning a cuck box. Keep posting you're weird fixation with "nigger love" though, it's always fun to expose obese rednecks secret obsession with niggers, they just can't seem to stop thinking about them.

WHAT
A DYSTOPIAN PICTURE

SO WHAT HUH. MORE NIGGERS CAN GO DRAG RACING AND HAVE PILE UPS.

60% OF THE COUNTRY
ARE NON-WHITES
IMAGINE THE DRIVERS... ESPECIALLY THE CHINKCELS

Too gay;didn't read

THE JEWS
DID THIS
IAM CALLING IT NOW ANONS

KANYE IS SAYING
THE NIGGER WORD

OUR SCHIZO CELEBRITY

having wider roads makes people think it's easier traffic conditions are better, they buy more cars

Please fuck off you retard shitskin. Giving brown people internet access was a terrible idea.

eyes blurry because of diabetic cataracts

Yeah, we know, fattie.

The most American post I've seen in a while.

fuck do you ever sounds like a total fag. hory shet.

No sane real american

No sane human being wants to use the highway on a daily basis, it's retarded that your country developed this way where to buy groceries you are forced to travel trough one of these monstrosities

high speed nigger distribution system

No we just want to drive on the road with them with full autonomy over deadly machines moving at 80 mph instead. Great logic, retard.

Still thinking about men's bodies 24/7 I see

Youre consistent ill give ya that

Consistently gay

You are a mexicant

Silence

Another butthurt fattie joins the chat. This time a Tim Horton's brand instead of a McDonald's brand.

Lol this boy enthusiasts oceans of tears will ensure we never have a drought at least lol

uh no, I'm pretty sure the nearest grocery store for most Americans can be easily accessed by local roads and don't require a state/interstate highway. Might be different out in the rural areas where the only big road is the highway of course.

reddit spacing

butthurt about being fat

constantly talking about gay shit

We know where you belong, and it's not here.

You just need less none-Whites.

Urban sprawl is cancer. Fuck off, fatass.

Imax called

They're going to need that projection back

Kill all city nigger lovers!

Do you expect me walk outside in 100+F weather with fresh, perishable groceries or something? Use your brain here. It's just logical to haul a large load of groceries in the car.

still can't stop posting about loving niggers even when he's called out on it

Europeans are right. There really is a large segment of our population that just can't stop fixating and thinking about niggers.

Nigger enthusiast is big mad he can't control where and what others build nor what they consume

Typical whiny commie cunt mindset

People do it every day in many different parts of the world. The only difference is they are not fat and out of shape.

Your tears

DELICIOUS

Move there whiny nigger lover

Youre never going to control where people build nor what they consume

Why? If we reduced the population we could do with smaller and less lanes as well as a higher quality of life for every person

No one is against owning a car, just stop expecting cities to cater to car culture when suburbs and rural areas exist for fatties to live out their lazy perpetually-immobile fantasies.

I really doubt that. Carrying something that spoils really fast like milk out in extreme weather is just not smart. No point in buying fresh vegetables, meats, dairy, etc. if it's no longer fresh by the time you get home.

No

Get fucked and cry harder communist govt asshole licker

Youre never going to control where people build nor what they consume

That's YOU, you retarded faggot. I want to get rid of zoning laws (Commie as fuck btw), build high speed rail, sidewalks, public transport and condensed housing/storefronts to make our cities more livable for future generations and Commie NIMBY fucks like you are the ones who impede on what the people want to build for their cities. I know you're ashamed of being fat, but look in the mirror FFS.

Cities, especially walkable/bikeable ones, used to be the answer but they built highways that killed that so people could spend hours in traffic to live one place and work another.

Just as I've said introduce slavery and or serfdom.

This is why fat people should not be allowed to vote.

No one cares what you want

Again

Cry harder nigger lover

It'll be fun killing you in civil war 2.0

I really doubt that.

Right. So cities like Singapore don't exist in your world. Ok, got it.

Lmao absolutely seething. What are you gonna do when your diabetes medication runs out?

Youre fun to wind up

Go move to Singapore, you'll enjoy the ladyboys loo

posting about ladyboys and niggers constantly

Post a screenshot of your porn history. I need a good laugh.

A quick look at their climate data shows they have mild summers.

WEF great reset

nigga I just like trains

You sure are interested in random male strangers bodies and interests

Quite gay I'd say

summers

well I guess that's not accurate since they have no real seasons but still the temperatures are not much

Yeah if you want to call 80 degrees temperature with 90% humidity "mild" then sure.

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Dude, the american south regularly gets 100F summers with 90% humidity. Do you even know the climate of your own country? 80F is nothing.

City fags sure are weak bitches

PRIVATIZE THE ROADS