Jesus claims He is God

Jesus claims He is God

600 years later, some guy says Jesus is not God and that he is speaking for God

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Don't you think it's kind of a crazy coincidence that the people who claim to speak for god all happen to have a book that says god wants you to give money to the person speaking on behalf of god.

wow, hot take, stunning and brave

he only got away with it because he couldn't read.
the bible says "if anyone tries to add some more stuff, fuck them basically, even if they say an angel says it, fuck them."

Atheists too

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jewish hands typed this post

jews promote atheism brainlet.
it's literally choosing to lose.
no one can know if god is real or not.
so if you choose to be an atheist, you choose to get nothing, when you could have chosen something, literally anything but nothing.
you cucked yourself.

hiding behind a homo flag

pilpuling this hard

it's a christian symbol because the united states is a zionist joke, like atheism
you coulda believed in odin or allah or zeus or jesus or any number of based gods and pantheons.
you chose to believe in nothing.
your a cuck.

why did yahweh suddenly stop talking to people directly.

Anyone following these middle eastern religions really needs to give their head a shake. “They were uh, white back then”

No they weren’t. You’re a retard. The fact their brown people mythology enters your mind at all is a form of psychological invasion.

You don’t have to be an atheist to reject Abrahamism.

he didn't.
ask people with nde's and schizophrenics, it's pretty common

shut the fuck up kike faggot

Christ never asked for money. Even told a rich guy to sell all his possessions if he wanted to join and the rich guy was like

WAHHH

Now Muhammad on the other hand..

give money to the person speaking on behalf of god.

Except Jesus, who said you should share it with everyone else, and that his kingdom wasn't on Earth so he didn't need kingly things.

You can tell atheist cucks never read the bible because the never mention Christ being a badass whipping and flipping over tables in the Jewish Temple caused they turned it into a bank.

Jesus never claimed to be God. In fact he said he wasn't God multiple times. In fact in John 10:31-37, a crowd forms to stone him to death accusing him of making himself out to be God. Instead of agreeing with them, he said that they're just as much God as he is.

He was financially supported by the Church before he got crucified. How could he ask for money after? That was for the apostles.

Some women were watching from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joseph, and Salome. In Galilee these women had followed him and cared for his needs. Many other women who had come up with him to Jerusalem were also there.

This is my defense to those who scrutinize me: Have we no right to food and to drink? Have we no right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas? Or are Barnabas and I the only apostles who must work for a living?

Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat of its fruit? Who tends a flock and does not drink of its milk?

You can tell that you've never read the Bible because Jesus never actually strikes anyone with the whip. He was chasing the farm animals out with a whip because that's how you do that.

exactly my point. the church has nothing to do with jesus.

Try joining a church and paying $0 in tithings every week and see how quick you become a 3rd class citizen there.

Everybody SAYS it's not about money, but you can tell by actions and demeanor that yeah, it's kind of about getting the bag.

It's that too.
Obviously a big part of God's creation is keeping us completely in the dark and confused.

So tell me in the bible where Christ specifically asks for money? I know Matthew was a tax collector but even then Christ provided their every need with or without money. ie. the fish and such.

Are you not reading that verse from Mark where it says there were women who supported him?

"Jesus made a whip of cords and drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen."

drove them ALL out, with the sheep and oxen. Whipped all of them retard. How else would you get Jews away from money?

Jesus didn't, Paul did. The Bible is a contradictive mess. Just depends on whose side you take

If you actually read the Gospel of Jesus Christ, he says to worship God and God alone.

If you actually read the Torah, Moses says to worship God and God alone. The 1st Commandment, worship only God.

You are a zionist Jew using a false flag, why should anyone trust you on anything regarding what is holy and true?

Why would I allow a shill on the internet to determine my most deeply held beliefs and not the Scripture of God?

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Did Christ specifically ask them for money or were they just simping for him.

Yes this is why I don't go to church. Have nothing against people who do but the church was supposed to just spread the message of Christ. The message is spread and now their job should be done. I pray in my room alone and to God like Christ said so. If you go to church that's cool but it's not necessary imo.

Well I take the side of Christ because Muhammad is a faggot. No religion besides Christianity and Buddhism says you should kill the "non-believer"

The Bible is a contradictive mess

nope, you just can't read
*shrug*

Why are you always lying?

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Luke may have been a physician friend and contemporary of Saul, but Luke wasn't an actual disciple. It says right in the beginning of ((( his book ))) that it's just an anthology of other people's memories from decades earlier.

You are a zionist Jew using a false flag

Kek. If you're wrong doesn't that make you a false prophet at best and a demoniac at worst?

According to the legends, Jesus came from a massively wealthy family, descended from King David and King Solomon (the diamond mines?). He never needed money, as the story goes. He could afford to travel endlessly as all the other influencers do.

by raising your arm. they scatter

those allegations of an "rape assembly line" ring true. they seem like trauma victims, the ones in ponytails and trenchcoats at least

Right.. Jesus was born to Joseph and Mary, sheep herders but according to le epic Lore Jesus was massively wealthy.

Pretty sure all that wealth dried up after Solomon died and Israel was ransacked by the Romans.

You might as well flip a coin to decide who is right.

you chose to believe in nothing.

That's not true. Atheists can believe in any irrational horseshit imaginable except for gods. That's the only dealbreaker. So the question becomes, why would a rational man believe in some obviously fictional creator/destroyer-of-universes supernatural superhuman being obviously invented by evil men to control weak men? Especially when you consider all the thousands of previously invented gods (Roman, Greek, Aztec, Egyptian, Persian, etc) and the millions of hero-tales that people enjoyed as entertainment in Bronze Age.

And what people do we find as the leaders of the entertainment industries today? The same ones who wrote the ((( holy books )))?

It's not obviously fictional, none of them can be proven or disproven.
Focusing on the church aspects is missing the forest for the trees, many religions require no work at all.

Sheep herding was big business back then. Who doesn't enjoy fire roasted mutton, siitting around the campfire listening to Tales of JeZeus?
Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin is worth ten billion dollars. That's just lines of code and electrons.

in 1830, Adam Smith publishes the Book of Mormon

you can just keep piling new(er) testaments on top of each other huh?

a wrongdoer trying to understand divinity

First purify your mind. There is no use for me to try to pass any knowledge to you right now. You wouldn't get it. You're not ready.

Jesus never claimed he was god. The first Council of Nicaea decided that.

Except I know the truth and am immune to your lies

It happened but it’s still a lie what is your point

These self-proclaimed messiahs you could find on every street of Jerusalem during Jesus' time were like ancient versions of modern day streamers. They were all competing for attention, followers, and pay pig simps.

I know the truth is the most foolish thing a person can say.
We live in our heads, the reality around us is viewed subjectively only.

it's lterally why the jews had him killed you retard

I and The Father are one

You are reading made up but real book and trying to use that against things your god never created

Who can really say which is right or wrong? It's not that weird for men to claim some direct connection to divinity. What we can say is that Christian societies tend to create good people while Mohammedan ones create degenerates. Christianity has the added benefit of having actual morality which cant be said of Islam.

A claim without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

He didn't. You just don't understand what Yahweh means.

I'm so tired of all this abrahamic nonsense. It's made a mess of the world desu. Violence and shit.

Adam Smith

wrote The Wealth of Nations

It's all mostly bullshit to get people to obey and pay taxes. However I do think at the root of it all there was some real demonic non-human intelligent entity who was screwing with humans back in those ancient times. Or maybe it was a human but not in the same sense as us, rather a survivor from a former civilization that was still equipped with whatever technology they had invented, and that made them godly to the goat herder savages.

I can take this a step further.
You can choose to believe or you can choose not to believe but in the end it's all belief. Ergo, logic dictates that belief is all that matters.
So you can believe in something or believe in nothing and only one of these beliefs actually means anything.
If you are objectively logical (as atheists claim) then you must believe in the afterlife.

give to Caesar what is Caesar's

Christ didn't want money bud

Jesus was a "tekton". A lower class labourer.

Maybe you just don't understand the book.

creates mankind

fucks off

tells them not to talk trash or he'll whoop they ass

refuse to help when they ask

get mad when they tell you to fuck off

wait, is God really a nigger and the nigger's were right?

some of the apostles did though

If either even existed, they probably lived a couple of centuries apart. Most of the 1st Millennium is either outright fabricated or didn't occur nearly as long as the current chronology claims

I've been a Catholic for my entire life and I've never once been required to give them money for anything.

They asked for a small fee when I got married but it was paying for office work. None of the sacraments cost anything.

Reddit atheists have the absolute most braindead understanding of Catholicism, but not as bad as prots.

i can't physically see a direct cause so there must not be one

Being omnipotent, God could do all kinds of crazy shit and you'd never know.

You can’t do what you want because a pedophile told you and your reward for doing so is to endlessly suck on a fake gods cock

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most historical scholars accept Jesus did in fact exist
and it is very well documented that Mohammed existed, he's buried in Mecca

Why it’s all lies
Real but lies

jesus claims he is god

1800 years later

chinaman claims to be jesus' brother

civil war kills 30million bugs

it was a joke, lighten up

I can do exactly what I want.
As for rewards, enlightenment and inner peace while alive. Immortality after.
It's a bretty gud package.

humor requires an element of truth, which means you really needed to be told that to know it.

I find it striking how very similar religious fundmentalists and atheists are
both are annoying cunts
even God would appreciate a good joke

even God would appreciate a good joke

He made you, after all.

<]:^)

lol rekt.
I appreciate this, it was a good joke.

No, a laborer was ἐργάτης.
τικτω means a creator of things, like a craftsman, stone mason or builder.

artisan?
asshole. P'tah was an artisan. a technician. a CREATOR (of all things)

The first guy is more believable because he said it first. Being first means you're more righter than the guy copying you.

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Jesus Christ wasn't an illiterate conquering warlord with a child bride.

drove them ALL out,

Yes he was condemning their actions and yelling at them to leave. That doesn't mean whipping them. The whip would be used to drive the animals out.

And atheists say they're not a religion

They're not sending there best

You implying they got rich? If so prove it.

Yes.

Why are you always lying?

Specify exactly where in my post there was a lie.

Jesus said He is God. I attached the proof in the image. You are like the Kikes who stick their fingers in their ears because they don't want to hear.

says your religion will come about 600 years later and even pinpoints things about your religion such as it's denial of God having a son, and that it will behead Christians believing they do God a service.

says that someone will come in his own name and will be accepted where He was rejected for coming in His Father's name. While also saying that someone will come in HIS name (Jesus) claiming to be Christ, and the False Prophet of Revelation will have 2 horns like a lamb (appear to be Jesus) but speak like a dragon

this points to the eventual Islamic "Jesus" as the False Prophet. Even fitting that Islam only considers Jesus a prophet.

Oh you will have fulfillment of parts of Islamic Eschatology. Isa will 'come back' claiming to be the Historical Jesus returned from heaven, denying that he died, denying that he is the son of God, and professing Islam. He will then proceed to abolish the Jizyah tax by killing anyone who doesn't convert to Islam, and serving the Mahdi (the Antichrist)
In that way "Isa" comes in his own name, and coming in the name of Jesus, and has 2 horns like a lamb and speaks like a dragon (Satan)

but then the real Jesus will come back from Heaven, not as a claim just appearing in Damascus, but splitting the sky open and resurrecting the dead.

And atheists say they're not a religion

It's not. It's simply a lack of belief in God or gods

Jesus was a cock sucker. Muhammad was also gay - a top - but by that time we saw what Jesus' teachings caused (the replacement of Jews) and Muhammad was a Zionist.

Yes that's what I said, a handworker, a labourer.

Islam is satan larping as God

That's literally nowhere in the image you posted. Meanwhile he was accused of making himself out to be God by an angry mob. Instead of agreeing with them and telling them to get over it because that's exactly who he is, he cited Psalm 82 saying that he was no more God than they were. (John 10:31-37).

Jesus said that he came not on his own prerogative but only because God instructed him to. And that he will return to God.

“To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.

You're a Kike. Read it again as many times as you need to.

Muhammad was also gay - a top

Didn't he get gangbanged by multiple guys?

God is not mocked, kike.

Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and besides me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:6 KJVAAE

Jesus, Revelation chapter 1: I am the first and the last.

Amen, my brother in Christ.

I have no rebuttal but I'm angry so I'll just call you a like

Idiot

Were you the guy who posted on /x in my thread yesterday?

"The Kike will always tell you what happened to him, but he'll never tell you why."

God is not mocked, kike

I'm quoting you fucking scripture, and direct quotes from Jesus, you absolute retard. No need for cryptic ideas and prophetic language. He's very straightforward and telling us all he's not God. You just ignore him. Also, false witness calling me a kike is a mortal sin. Good luck with that.

Isaiah 44:6 is the father speaking

But Jesus is the Word!

Of the Father. Who's declaring himself God.

Bearing false witness is a mortal sin. You will answer for it. I'm not a kike, and I'm literally just giving you direct quotes from the Bible. You'll have a lot of explaining to do.

John 20

24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

why didn't Jesus correct him if He denied being God?

An exclamation before God the Father about seeing his resurrected Lord does not mean he's applying that title to Jesus. The Bible in fact states that he should be worship as Lord and the Father as God. Thomas is applying that.

I have a lot to explain? All Christians believe Jesus is God. You are some Kike LARPing as a very tiny heretical sect of who cares.

makes money off it's belief

promotes and tries to win converts

claim to be the better people

Who are you trying to fool?

All Christians believe Jesus is God

Incorrect

Jehovahs witnesses for example deny the divinity of Christ

Protestants: Jesus is God
Catholics: Jesus is God
Orthodox: Jesus is God

No one cares about whatever you Kikes are shilling.

Incorrect

Well, it's correct. Here's the scripture.

"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."

1 Corinthians 8:6

>makes money off it's belief

Yeah he does. Loke anyone else who writes books and makes content

>promotes

Yeah as would anyone who writes books and makes content

tries to win converts

You mean buyers?

claim to be the better people

Ego affects us all.

Who are you trying to fool?

Why are you acting like a fool?

Protestants: Jesus is God

Not all of them

Catholics: Jesus is God

Orthodox: Jesus is God

While placing idols above Jesus

Yup, same with Mormons

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