Redpill me on gangstalking

Is it real or are those people claiming to be gangstalked just crazy?

Saw this video recently where the guy is checking out golf clubs at the corner of a store and suddenly a bunch of people appear out of nowhere. Some of them looking directly at him but he was also making comments loudly so they couldv'e just been staring because he seemed kind of cuckoo.

If real, what's it for? Why spend millions of dollars following / silently harassing apparent nobodies?

imagine the money required to "gang stalk" 1 retard.
Say it was 5 people on call 24/7. Each getting $50/hr. That's 1/2 a mill per year for 1 fucking retard to feel "unsafe" or whatever. No one has the budget for that, it simply cannot scale.

They are just insane. Think about it.
Why in the fuck would some agency spend millions of dollars and countless hours hiring people, organizing them, tracking someone, so they can have those people they hired follow around some random fucking no body? What would they even get from this?

Does Judith, the 29 year old Walmart clerk know something important? Maybe, perhaps she saw something. If that is the case why is she even alive or allowed to run free? Is she someone important? Does she have power over nations/corporations? Is she even a celebrity or "influncer"? No, she works the morning shift at Walmart. Does she have some kind of potential to have a major effect on the world? No, she is working a entry level walmart job at 29. She would have done SOMETHING with her life of note by that age. Is she just related to or in a relashionship with someone important? Again, no. She is not dating anyone of importance. Just some other retail worker if anyone at all.

Human mammals are running out of original ideas and going insane. Surely each one is super special worthy of attention like VIPs and if they are not it is excruciating to them that they are just the creation of boring people fucking for three boring minutes and following thru out of obligation.

those people claiming to be gangstalked just crazy?

Usually just crazy, yes. They suspiciously look at people and then act all surprised that people look back etc.

There are more cost efficient ways to spy on people.

it could be 100% real, and i'd just wish those being gangstalked would stop being whiny bitches and fight back then.

b-but these sinister, powerful forces ruining my life! woe is me! i'm helpless! waaah!

just fucking wallop them or chase them away then, goddamn. problem solved. they send more to go after you? destroy them too. what's there to lose? they're clearly disposable henchmen, not invincible super soldiers.

yeah i know someone very unwell will read this and probably start attacking innocents but if it escalates to that level, the problem solves itself soon after

It’s definitely real, and documented. It’s only ever used against people they can’t outright arrest though and the random schizo complaining about gangstalking isn’t that

To what end? So let's say a group of shadowy / well organized people "can't" arrest you. They can still kill you, they can fabricate charges, plant fake evidence, etc. Why spend so much money following you around, in some cases blatantly (so that you know).

I'm not disagreeing that it might be real, I just want to understand why do it in lieu of the other options.

coordinated gangstalking would require vastly more energy than it could possibly create - unless they’re also robbing you there is fundamentally no upside outside of the gangstalkers also being mentally ill

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My guess would be individuals who are neuro-atypical but still high functioning enough to act as processors for spooks if goaded correctly. Basically people who don't play nice with others but are deemed to have some benefit to whatever organization is tasked with stalking them.

What if we hire Indians for this task? Anons, would you feel as threatened if all the people gangstalking you were Indian?

i lived half a mile from masonic lodge

my high school boasted they were cia school created in 1969 (mandated for space race)

i had teachers follow me from grade to grade and showed up at my house one day)

the stuff that i go through cant even describe
literally one time a car pulled over and said

still doing good i see

and then drove off

cars inconspicuously parking in front of my house multiple times a night then leaving off

i guess theres some karmic debt they dont want to be responsible for if you are walking in righteous so they hope they find you doing something or go wild from this
just know the spiritual world manifests in 3 letter groups sometimes its actually what made me believe i was an Israelite
they are looking for the rise of the Messiah in or communities because
unbeknownst to me there are 139,999 others like me
this was what cointel pro was for most of this stuff happens to black people thats why u only see qhite people freaking out (probably whistleblowers)
while its normal for us. think about the isolation & gaslighting you experience during the cov1d fiasco
dont get me started on closing doors of opportunities

changing my already FINALIZED grades on my report card when i was in middle school

not sending my letter of recommendation in high school

not enrolling me full time in college

telling my job finder group to put 5 year instead of 7 knowing the algorithm only picks up 6 years of experience on resume job applications (it was like an indian nepotistic fake accreditation thing but for ethiopians)

christ is king tho im glad i got out of this world and didnt have to cuck
i found the word of God

What he is referring to is some criminal being followed/spied on constantly in the hopes he does/says something that they can bust him for. Like a drug dealer/supplier who is on the smarter side and has enough middle men between him and the street pushers to where they can't easily pin it on him.

Not some random fucker who is able to make multiple youtube/social media videos/post while rambling about their town and screaming at random passing people all day long.

You're either just a midwit or intentionally misleading. Zersetzung was a thing that happened but according to you it was not possible because it couldn't be scaled. The communists in China have done and do it, the communists in NK have done and do it, the US did it during the McCarthy era and likely still does something similar. That's not even taking into account that it doesn't necessarily need to be a government funded thing. It could be some obscenely rich guy that's an activist like George Soros, or any number of other groups or people. Just because YOU cannot conceive of a reason or way to scale it, doesn't mean it's not possible, which is actually the crux of your argument, but now you can move the goal post. Also, who said they get paid $50 an hour? Who said they get paid at all? Actually, I take back what I first said, you're definitely a midwit whether or not you're trying to intentionally mislead.

it’s been proven people will do it for free kek

source: I would if it was funny enough

China does is via tech. Not a bunch of people just following them around.

Go a head, YOU come up with a reason why glow niggers would would

set up a 24/7 op

spend hundreds of millions every year

hire hundreds of people, spend alot of time training every single one of time

buy and maintain dozens of various red vehicles

For no other reason than to fuck with some random person who has done nothing of note in their life, that lives in the middle of No Where Important Suburbia.

You guys will say fake.

Be me, train conductor

Had to stop and cut a crossing (separate my train for traffic)

decent dressed middle aged woman approaches me

"Why the fuck do you keep doing this to me

what

"The store, the ???, and now here? You people are everywhere"

what??

"Stop following me!"

I notice she's didn't get out of a car, just walking near a free way.

I have a radio we work with.

I say into the radio, "guys she caught me"

"guys call it off she's onto us"

"Who are you talking to? Is it (I think she said nasa?)?"

you're free now, we will stop.

She smiled, said thank you and walked away.

All the people in the cars clapped of course.

No faggot I'm not going to do that.

Millions of people are murdered, raped and kidnapped every day.
If your given schizo was truly being stalked by malicious people, they'd already be dead in an alley somewhere.

it's 100% real, and it's a favored tactic of both israelis and freemasons, there's probably a bunch of other retards who try, but those two groups use it heavily

Most gangstalking isn't that organized and npcs do it for free, the behavior has been programmed into them from the time they were toddlers.

program npc not to think

"well think for you and give you everything you need"

"nazis are bad and they're a threat to the existence we've allowed you to have"

" that guy over there is a nazi"

That's all it takes, and these clowns will do it for free

To what end?

it's a favored tactic of freemasons and israelis, both satanists
who the fuck do you think they are opposing? go back to your mundane life, you really don't want any part of this

It's an East German (Communist) strategy. Why wouldn't it be in operation today?

During the Cold War, East Germany‘s Ministry for State Security, commonly known as the Stasi, perfected a clandestine and insidious tactic known as Zersetzung. This psychological warfare technique, aimed at undermining perceived threats to the state, left a lasting impact on individuals and society as a whole.

Surveillance

Targets were subjected to constant surveillance, both physical and electronic, to gather information about their activities, relationships, and vulnerabilities.

Psychological Warfare

The Stasi sought to induce paranoia, anxiety, and isolation in their targets by employing tactics such as spreading rumors, gaslighting, and creating a sense of omnipresence.

Interference with Personal Affairs

The Stasi would interfere with various aspects of their targets’ personal lives, such as tampering with mail, damaging property, or disrupting relationships, to sow chaos and undermine their stability.

Isolation and Alienation

Targets would often find themselves isolated from their support networks as the Stasi worked to undermine their relationships with friends, family, and colleagues, leaving them feeling alienated and vulnerable.

Zersetzung was a highly effective tool for the Stasi, as it allowed them to neutralize perceived threats without attracting widespread attention or condemnation. Sometimes it was easier to apply this “quiet” approach and destabilize the victim, than using something that will internationally harm the state’s reputation. Its insidious nature made it difficult for targets to identify and counteract, leading to widespread fear and mistrust within East German society.

So reading through this got me thinking and I think there could be a situation where the government or some kind of organized agency would do this.

Training.

It would make sense to do it on a single target, since that target might eventually "catch on", they'd be aware of all the possible emotional and psychological phases the target would experience over time: no awareness, awareness, denial, paranoia, fear, aggression, anxiety, acceptance, violence.

A single target would allow them to pass many multiple agents through training based on target personality and behavioral phases. Agents ready for the next training? No problem, we have another target in this city with the appropriate psychological/ behavioral phase. Targets could be randomly selected, or they could be selected based on a variety of criteria such as location, climate, profession, family, etc.

Why do this on live targets? What better way to train agents to go live on the field. Whether training to be undetected, detectable, intimidation, unspoken communication, team dynamics. I can see a lot of intelligence / military applications for this sort of thing and it's the only explanation that truly makes sense to me. I don't think targets are "special", but rather at the right place, the right time, and the right "profile".

Zersetzung strategy

First stage
The initial stage of Zersetzung was a thorough examination of publicly available data and information, including as medical records, school reports, police reports, intelligence reports, and searches of the target’s residence. They were looking for any social, emotional, or physical flaws that could be used to put pressure on the target, such as extramarital affairs, criminal histories, alcoholism, drug use, and differences between the target and their group (such as age, class, or clothing styles) that could be used to socially isolate them.

Following that, a comprehensive Zersetzung plan was developed:

What was the specific goal?

What techniques should be used to exploit the target’s circumstances and personality?

How much time did it take?
Second stage
The second phase typically involved supplementing covert surveillance with overt observation to inform the victim that the Stasi was interested in them and to instill a sense of anxiety and fear.

Some of the tactics utilised included questioning, repeated stop-and-searches, strange noises on phone lines, ostentatious trips to the workplace to alert management and coworkers that the police were interested, and so on.

The third stage
The final stages involved verbal and physical abuse, such as moving furniture around the house (and the socks are in the wrong drawer, the alarm goes off at 5 a.m. instead of 7 a.m., there’s no coffee left…), damaging bikes and cars (e.g., slashing tyres), spreading rumours, making purchases and booking appointments in the target’s name, and so on.

Families were frequently used as a form of blackmail against activists at this time, with oppressed family members, for example, exerting indirect pressure on the activist, or as a tool for persuasion (Your daughter will get into serious trouble if she stays involved in that group, can’t you make her see sense? Her marriage or career are at stake.).Being arrested repeatedly, being physically attacked on the street, for example, by plain clothes police officers, or being subjected to abuse and assault as a result of rumours, such as bullying at work or avoidance by neighbours, are all examples of physical harassment.

It is well knowledge that modern Germans are reluctant to reveal information to parties other than the German government.

They also disagree on various areas of surveillance. Given their legacy, we can see why.

They are concerned about the consequences because they have witnessed the dangers of widespread government surveillance.

if our government really wanted to you would be in a room like webm related before your family even notice you are gone anon

My primary question wasn't whether or not they do this. A lot of people believe with certainty that it is done, and I suspect this to be true.

My primary question is WHY do it and why on people that seemingly have no importance.

Why in the fuck would some agency spend millions of dollars and countless hours hiring people, organizing them, tracking someone, so they can have those people they hired follow around some random fucking no body?

This 100%. Unless you're some extremely influential public figure, nobody is going to waste their fucking time "gangstalking" you. These batshit crazy narcissists need to humble themselves with some psychiatric medicine.

I've been abused for about three years and its still happening. Usually in the morning it'll be a mans voice talking about "he's up" and my mom will get a text. The previous place I lived, it was a lot of "fuck you asshole, i'll kill you asshole" and women screaming for help and things like that. If you don't think gang stalking is real just google CWC. But, I think most stalking is mostly singular, a neighbor doesnt like you and wants you to move so they play BDSM. Or whoever on the internet buys access into your phone (didn't realize motorola stopped making security updates for my phone years ago). When my ex gf sent me pics, my neighbors would laugh, or go "ewww" when she'd say something particularly kinky. Its tough to let go of once you think you're being targeted. But, something that makes me feel a little better is if any of them ever approach me in real life I have the right to kill them, since they've threatened me. But its also a tradeoff since they have my screen recordings that i was taking for archiving purposes and someone uploaded them. So its kind of a mutually assured destruction scenario, they only harass me by hacking into my phone and playing shit while i'm asleep, since i put on youtube at night. I think they play stuff to try and influence my dreams. I am serious about killing the first one that confronts me in real life. I've practiced slashing at neck level from a few steps away, but I'm also aware that I need to be really sure before I do it. How "epic" would Anon Babble have thought it if they got chrischan to kill some random stranger? So, Im not going to do some random person. But its hard not knowing why they're doing it or who is really behind it. Part of me acknowledges it might be schizophrenia since it started when I was on drugs, but it persisted years later. It started with someone playing BDSM porn with women screaming for help, and no one would admit it when i brought it up. My bed also shakes, I can feel when my neighbors are moving

It's funny how you can stop gang stalking just by taking your meds.

Why wouldn't it be in operation today?

Well sure it might be, but not against random harmless schizos with zero influence, wealth, power.

I know, this was my original thought as well. But it's possible they employ these tactics on "nobodies" to train to use them on real targets (political, etc.)

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nothing has ever stopped the debt ceiling. Wild to consider we have gangstalking, underground tunnels, whatever the fuck is going on underneath the Space Force base in Greenland (whole-ass city) and those things must go way beyond the trillions we see each year, yet the populus lives as slaves and we are told there is no such thing as infinite money

Like this poor retard here, who is obviously suffering from debilitating schizophrenia.

Why does 'gangstalking' always happen to guys like him, and not a totally rational level headed individual who documents it in an intelligent and meaningful way? Why is it always a ranting lunatic?

If they use it on idiots, how could they be sure they are getting good training against people who might actually be aware of their surroundings/capable of fighting back?

I've seen the supposed 'gangstalkers' in confrontation videos, etc. It's just random fat nobody idiots.

It's easier to break a stick than it is to break a bundle of sticks (faggot).

If you are spreading information online then that they don't want to be spread then you are not harmless as far as they are concerned. Most of the American population have been called deplorables, far right etc, Trump voters are seen as the enemy to leftists. We're in the middle of a culture war if you haven't noticed.

Why dont you move and get a new phone. Youre going to end up killing someone innocent.
Everything youre saying might be true but it’s almost on the level of someone saying they’ve seen aliens. It sounds like the ravings of a deluded madman.
Youre going to end up killing someone and going to jail. Stop practicing slashing techniques anon.
Youre going down a dark path. Just move away, start anew.

BROS WTF

I watched the video. Is this phenomenon actually real?

youtu.be/JFdk-6rbrdU

He was in the back corner of the store and like 6 or more people come out of nowhere to look at golf clubs and almost mob him. I thought this would be schizo hallucinations but it happened in the video like some weird fever dream.

I used to do that shit, I thought it was boring. We called it "community policing", though, not gangstalking. It was boring AF.

Because 99% of the time they're feds. Usually they gangstalk people who formerly worked for them and ended on bad terms (like the guy who's house got drone striked) or people who may be threats so they surveill them in public for a bit. The other 1% of cases are if the shadowy group is a cult or a mob. Scientology harasses everyone that tries leaving.

I think that's where the different behavioral / psychological phases come into play.

I've contemplated "what if it was real and tomorrow I started getting ganstalked" how would I react? I think intially I wouldn't notice, overtime I might "notice" things and become slightly concerned (start tracking things to see if it adds up). Like I would probably start monitoring, timing situations, etc. and trying to be rational about it. However, what if happened for 15 years after I'd start noticing. If done by a competent agency they would likely understand my psychological situation overtime and know how to train based on that. Whether I'm an idiot or not would be irrelevant, as the training would be useful.

It's real. I had four niggas following me around often back in college and I solved that shit real quick by buying an AR. Haven't been gang stalked since
It's not about the money, dumbass. Everybody knows the FBI grooms shooters and they're tax payer funded. Lmao. Shooting = new attempt on gun control

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It's a side effect of smoking cheap weed.
The paranoid part of your lizard brain gets activated and it takes months up to years to deactivate.
Weed is a stupidly horrible drug.
Stop smoking, gangstalkers will soon ho away.
Otherwise you'll go into deeper issues such as delusions.

Everyone in this thread who shares the experience of being gangstalked has smoked weed beforehand.
Just let me know if that's not true.

I have extensive, well documented evidence of the targeted harassment campaign involving the CIA, Lance Cottrell and the Alaska State police.
I've exposed Lance Cottrell from Ntrepid. He's a Satanist who's been working with the CIA for decades. He's also been involved in Abraxas Corp and Trapwire. He was stalking me in Las Vegas, dressed as a mailman. I have video proof of everything on YouTube. I've also exposed the higher powers in Kodiak and they were pissed. Officer Beaver from the Alaska State Troopers wanted to entrap me and arrest me, I left the State quickly after. Kodiak Alaska fucking glows and there's corruption on every corner. I am a targeted individual because I'm real and politically prosecuted. Big military dudes were following my mom and I back to our car after Church. I like to compare myself to John Lennon because he suffered through the same.

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be autistic faggot

go out in public with camera strapped to your head

stare at everyone, whilst mumbling incoherent word salads

zOmG WhY ArE THeSe GaNGsTaLkeRs LoOKiNG At Me!!!ONE

peak chud.

weirdo with a camera muttering to himself and at others while swinging a golf club in the store, and filming people wonders why people are looking at him like he's a retard

i wish more of these fuck heads made videos of them being fuck heads. it's definitely funny

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "I'm real"

the comments are just trolling this moron too lel

Part of me acknowledges it might be schizophrenia

You are scary. Pls no violence no matter what! This could escalate.

Why would those shoppers crowd the unhinged crazy person and all start looking at golf clubs? They can't all be working as undercover security.

I've been gang stalked, probably for making holocaust debunking threads and comments, and also anti Zionist comments online.

I really don't give a shit anymore, I just ignore the stalkers now. Been happening off and on for almost 15 years.

East Germany's Stasi was able to afford zersetzung. A surprisingly large percentage of the population worked for them.
Money isn't the only possible compensation, and money can be printed.

Women from high IQ bloodlines are often targeted by gang stalkers. The reason Judith haven't achieved anything yet could be their sabotage. Perhaps they are trying to prevent her from marrying the right man and having children capable of disrupting their order.
Alternatively she may have pissed of a woman with enough influence in an entity that does gang stalking. Say that the influential woman's crush fell for Judith.
Imagine a giant intelligence operation. The agents aren't all compensated monetarily. They aren't only targeting Judith.

Sure, if the goal is information gathering. If the goal is harassment one possibility is to send an untrained red shirt and tell her that the goal is to gather information.

Imagine being so fucking retarded in 2025 about how government actually works and thinking agencies and their departments are eager to "save money" like businesses are.
They're not you smooth-brained idiots.
In government, your budget is a symbol of your power.
If you don't spend your budget because you "saved money", then guess what?
Next year, you get

Guess you didn't really need all that money after all, so try a % budget cut for this year.

The game is to

spend every single penny

create endless "urgent problems" that need to be addressed right away ("persons of interest for legally-vague reasons") that will, of course, require a budget increase for you and your team next year because, "What if these people we're watching do something crazy? Surely you don't want us to stop monitoring them because you didn't give us enough money, right?

Seriously you think like a child.
Not in a good, "innocent" way.
In an overly-simplistic that belies lack of any experience or ever serious thought on the subject.

In short

You're the personification of campers on the peak of the "Hill of stupidity" on the Dunning Krueger curve

Zersetzung

the stasi only did that to people who were suspected of actively spreading anti-communist propaganda or were suspected to be western spies or citizens planning to flee the country, they didn't just do it to random people. if they sent out multiple (paid) government agents to break into somebody's apartment while that person was at work to search for evidence then it happened because somebody living in the same commieblock (or even a family member) made a phonecall and ratted out the person to the stasi as an anti-communist western capitalist pig. the didn't just randomly make somebody a "targeted individual" for no reason at all.
the stalking agents (private detectives with government authority essentially) were only sneaky about it because people knew the would be thrown into a gulag if they were found out so they had to be caught red-handed or saying something incriminating. once they found evidence the sneaky stalking would end and they would send guys to arrest the person for treason.
the "zersetzung" in the sense of "slowly breaking down a person's sanity and sense of safety" was not just an individual but more so an effect on the masses: at the end of the regime everybody was paranoid as fuck because nobody could be trusted and people knew that if they didn't play along they would end up in prison. there was a real consequence to it, it wasn't just "playing little pranks on somebody to make them feel uneasy for no reason at all".

You don't think the govt really spends $10,000 on a toilet seat do you?

You sound like a gay fed jew gangstalker.

Urhm, well, akshewally it was totally justified goy

lol no. i don't endorse jews or stalking glowniggers but i know more about this era than you.

it's demonic and demons have to abide by rules of engagement

Lol, so you acknowledge there's a difference between spending every penny in your BUDGET, and burning money outside your budget.

Read my other posts you fucking retarded maggot.

the stasi only did that to people who were suspected of actively spreading anti-communist propaganda or were suspected to be western spies or citizens planning to flee the country

Yes and that covered like a third of the population you fucking idiot, it is a categorical fact that East Germany had the most surveilled population in existence, literally every single commie block had someone tracking every person entering and leaving. the Stasi didn't vanish, they went to work for the US govt or the EU, Merkel was Stasi

Still... logistically. "let's pay 5,000 agents to get 1,000 random schizos riled up" seems very retarded when you got like 17 million agitated schizos already.

people claiming to be gangstalked just crazy

I'm sure they have the capacity for people who actually are some kind of threat to the existing order, but no, they are not targeting unemployed schizophrenics individually. More like broad brush psyops to see how they behave and collect data analytics on what people say.

Gangstalking is unecessary once you have enough data, if you disagree be ready to explain it to a court.