Why do leftists always ask for sources?
Why do leftists always ask for sources?
Because they know you would never be able to post a reliable "official/kosher" source that supports "radical" opinions. So y ence
just believe whatever bullshit I tell you or you're a libtard
This but unironically.
Russians also always ask for sources
Appeal to reason.
Asking for sources is good. That's what an intelligent person does. Stupid people make things up and uncritically swallow bullshit.
They have sunk cost deranged syndrome they spent a fortune memorizing factoids that are completely worthless in the real world outside of blaming on shitty podcasts
Appeal to the herd. They don't give a shit about reason. Neither do I actually
Asking for sources is good. That's what an intelligent person does.
They can't conceive of truth outside of being told it by an authority. The thought of doing extensive work to validate a claim is both exhausting and intimidating.
They don't want a source to actually evaluate it, they just want to know if you got it from a trustworthy source.
Asking for sources, which are taken as Gospel if they come from academia, is a form of leftist authoritarianism, because the truth or falsity of the claim is assessed on whether a recognized authority agrees or disagrees with the claim.
This is called appeal to authority.
Reasonning alone or a "not good enough" source will just get dismissed.
what do you mean a couple months is not enough to thoroughly test a vaccine made by a technology that haven't been used on any product before?
source?
Asking for sources is not an appeal to reason but an appeal to authority.
Because when they're arguing in Discords, nobody has sources on-hand for their spur of the moment conversation, so it's a way to try to devalue the argument by making it look like it's not supported by the soiance.
gee, i wonder if a Leftist started this terrific thread
It's usually to give them a reason to dismiss it, since if you respond with a URL to Fox News or whatever, they'll just smugly say you're wrong because that's not The Washington Post, CNN or Snopes.
They have a blind allegiance to authority, but only the ones the TV/reddit told them to blindly obey.
They have to make sure the "right" "experts" said that the sun is blue and the ocean is made up of orange soda.
Usually to waste your time, and most sources they would accept are ideologically captured and those sites usually will not report on specific things, but even if it's a source they agree with on the left, they just ignore it anyway.
Usually here you should post a source because there are too many nigger faggots that make things up.
Why does the right wing treat reality as subjective?
reality isn't subjective
ehhhhh
Their worldview can't stand confrontation with reality.
Every rightoid is either a liar or a schizophrenic.
Appeal to authority.
They lack the means for reasoning (literal retards).
"The sky is blue"
S- Source?
actually the sky is not blue because it's dark at night
sky is not actually blue, you only think it's blue because blue lights travel as short waves so they appear as predominant color, you're a fool if you didn't think of that before saying "the sky is blue" and you must praise me for knowing something even a 5th grade knows
Bunch of niggers
this but ironically
fucking retard lmao
This.
people build a model of the objective world through their subjective experiences. no person who has ever lived has had a perfect understanding of reality, therefore there is no such thing as a single source of verifiable objective truth. the leftard's instinct to appeal to authority betrays their infantile worldview, brainwashed through the artificial structure of their so called "education" and entirely severed from the true nature of life
It's an appeal to authority, they think the authority are untouchable, they don't realize that their gods arn't all that.
Why do I have to accept your viewpoint as credible without facts baking it up? You have nothing to back it up usually. I might as well just consult a psychic or my drunk uncle. I trust my crashed out, drunk uncle more than I trust you when you're sober.
If we go into the world of made-up bullshit, my viewpoint matters more than yours no matter what because it's mine and you're a fucking nobody with an ID tag and some shitass opinion I don't believe in and has no evidence to prove otherwise. Why the fuck should I listen to you at all, faggot? You have motives and agendas just like me, and you saying our align is bullshit. I wasn't born yesterday you nigger.
Even Greeks debating if a man was an animal or not brought evidence into their debates. Your opinion is just an opinion, nothing more until it has something to back it up when it's challenged.
But I know where I am, so please continue good sir.
Leftists are more interested in winning than the truth. They think asking for a source is an easy winning move. If you can't provide a source they win by default. If you provide a source they can quibble with the publisher, or writer. Perhaps you made a logical inference based on the data, they can then quibble over that.
They're a lot easier to understand when you realize they don't care about the truth only about winning.
If you beat them undeniably with data or sources they will very quickly switch to emotional arguments. (which is what their worldview is largely based on anyways)
For certain topics, such as climate change (formerly known as global warming) they will even employ pascals wager which I've always found ironic.
Making fun of them is actually the best way to deal with them because they have a massive fear of being in the out group.
They live under the assumption that everyone has a dishonest argument because that's the only form of argument they know.
Leftists are more interested in winning than the truth.
for a Anon Babblenigger to say this it's quite hilarious
you would already know the truth if you weren't a retard and what I'm saying wouldn't be some foreign concept
intelligent
Vax cattle
Pick one
rightoids are permanently dishonest so this checks out
uh your president has dementia and he's too old, not unfit to be president
uh so what if my president is old and demented, he's based. anyway I don't care what you think, here's a picture of you as a basedjak and me as a chad
and so on and so on. There's literally hundreds of thousands of examples at this point
it's an appeal to authority, not an appeal to reason
that's a fallacy btw, I realize the UK has declared formal logic your absolute enemy and thinks authority is equivalent to reason but seriously dude
Give me a source that I'm not a woman you schizophrenic lying chud
Anon Babble has always been a truth crucible. It's just heavily astroturfed.
These niggas still don't believe that Ukraine is winning?
and yet it remains true of leftists and very much not true of Anon Babbleniggers
My fren, you are talking to a kike who is also a troon and a NAFO shill.
The arrogance to pretend you yourself know the absolute truth at all times, and I'm talking about complex matters not "the sky is blue? SOURCE????" strawmen. the arrogance of rightoid retards knows no bounds. it's exactly because you don't know your place that you get burned by whoever you vote to dominate you. you think you're nobles together with your leaders, when in fact you're just peasants larping as such
Yikes, go back, faggot
It doesn't matter if you give a leftist sources or not. You can give them CNN, or msnbc or the BBC, and they will ignore it all the same.
liberals can't comprehend truth, as they demonstrate repeatedly by pretending appeals to authority are appeals to "science"
you are talking to a kike
source, gypsy?
By your deeds we know you.
you're fucking retarded cattle larping as smart people. you likely believe that cringe notion of "Anon Babble is full of smart people larping as idiots"
No one ever claimed they knew the objective truth about everything at all times. You are an effeminate emotional faggot.
rightoids
You even have to steal our language. That's how much smarter than you I am. Kys
By your deeds we know you.
what kind of logical fallacy is this?
The kind that gets you kikes hunted and gassed without a trial.
Because all their world views rely on biased datas, nothing come from experience, they are often litke bourgeois rebeling against their cuckservative parents.
Did you miss the part in which I said "everyone" ? They will challenge completely innocuous claims even among themselves or from just normal conversations if they perceive anything remotely 'hostile' to their worldview.
You chose a terrible example because by the way, Biden was perceived as old and demented by virtually everyone not just republicucks and yet, they fought against that perception till the day he was out.
The arrogance to pretend you yourself know the absolute truth at all times, and I'm talking about complex matters not "the sky is blue? SOURCE????"
complex matters like landing men on the moon and bringing them home safely, instead of stranding them on a Russian space station for nearly a year because Boeing's top zozzle space capsule self destructed?
see, complex matters are made of simple matters like "1+1=2" chained together in ways that don't change their 100% truth
that's how scientists can predict the future with 100% accuracy, and sºyentists like you very much can not
No one ever claimed they knew the objective truth about everything at all times. You are an effeminate emotional faggot.
wrong and hypocritical on both accounts you dumb cunt. and you have the memory of a goldfish on top of it. you need to learn your place
just ignore the massive ongoing replication crisis and total discrediting of the scientific community by liberal ideologues
trust our experts, stop being skeptical, and stop questioning the narrative you stupid fucking goyim
nah
Too bad I'll always be here. I'll let you know when I believe your latest demoralization post though.
complex matters like landing men on the moon
the moon landing is fake, think for yourself. no i don't care about your fake sources, use your brain retard
Send them actuall study and they will ask for CNN or something else. Their idea of a source is some journalists opinion.
Because they're insufferable cunts.
wrong and hypocritical on both accounts you dumb cunt.
That's not an argument you fucking retard. What's your source, faggot?
Intelligent people find sources themselves and form their own opinions based on ALL relevant information. NPCs demand pre-approved sources from their trusted authority.
sure, in fact I just got a three-day from Anon Babble's tranny janny for posting but objective reality is by definition the set of all things that don't go away when you ignore them, and no amount of authority or even psychopathic denial will ever make us disappear
Didn't ask
the sky here today is kinda gray , might rain today
Could you give a source for this statement?
You believe men can become pregnant and women can have penises.
Ukraine winning status?
why do rightoids always quote jewish fairytales called the bible as a source?
Why do you have no foreskin despite being neither Jewish nor Muslim? KWAB
rightoids
why does the homosexual left always have to steal our language and memes?
It's a shrewd technique that puts them as the superior/moral/teacher side, whom you have to prove yourself to. It makes you waste your time searching for things that are evident and they could find themselves very quickly, it's deliberately tiring and puts you on the defensive. It's dishonest and disrespectful because it considers everything you say as a falsehood until "proven" by some source and only if they think they like the source. Talk to any normie about nigger floyd, tell them about the bodycams, they'll go on schizorants about how the bodycams might be tampered with without having seen them and how you'd need a CNN article about that for them to accept it.
They treat you like lying garbage when it's what they are, and refuse to accept any fact axiom you provide in any discussion, which is the basis for all discussions. They're aggressive, dishonest, disrespectful, and pretending to be superior. You're wrong until proven right in their minds, whereas they are right until proven wrong by their own cult sources, not by evidence.
Most people need official input from the world government and its "academic" authority. They need official papers to believe a thing as "true".
The appeal to corporate authority is the most widespead mental disorder in this world.
This pic related is where you live according to "science". It's a computer generated image and has nothing to do with actual physical reality. This is what most people believe is where they live nevertheless, because that is what the official authorities of this world tell them, and they also watched a lot of space movies and popculture, that is the emotional bonding towards this image. People will continue to believe this until the official authority of "the science" of this world tells them something different.
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"your" language lol. You are the owner of english?
vaxxoids, femoids, leftoids, etc, etc. We made that up and it went up your ass so now you have to steal it. You cannot hide your faggotry.
My two cents. The fuckers considered themselves right. Thus the discussion at hands goal is not truth seeking. No, it is a form of a sermon. The funny part is, they themselves are barely cognisant of their own position and absolutely misinterpreting yours. So, what are they to do when getting schooled ? To put barriers and speed bumps, of course. Having to “prove” water is wet and compare and contrast studies muddles the end goal when you are winning. They will hold themselves to no such standards, of course. Accusing you or your position wildly and making all kinds of unverified assertions. Arguing in bad faith, because as stated, they are not doing it to seek the truth. They know the truth, you either have to be converted or expunged as a heretic.
absolutely misinterpreting yours.
TheRightCantMeme subreddit. The commie fags thought they could easily destroy "right-wing" memes with their muh intellectual acumen, and they failed miserably, getting obliterated even by faceboomer memes, and they just gave up and defaced with a red cross everything. They are such retarded toddlers they unironically take a caricature, then "fact-check" that the caricature is not photo-realistic and pretend that's a gotcha.
They’re submissive and conformist. If an authority figure tells them what to believe, they simply accept it as gospel. They don’t even bother to look for anything by themselves. They’re so mentally flaccid that they simply wait for someone to give them an opinion, and they don’t know how to read a research paper anyway
tl;dr they’re retards
leftists always ask for sources
source?
Pooland, you used to be cool. What happened?
that hairline
What is this? 1980?
MUHHH SOURCES
Is just a weak attempt to invalidate an argument, nigger search up your own source with your slave made pocket supercomputer
This might be only vaguely related to this thread, but I've been thinking a lot lately about how I see or know the truth in the sea of garbage that is the modern milieu.
I feel like I just take in and consume absolutely everything with as little filter as possible and then I use my own personal morals and world view to parse it into true or untrue, good or evil, valuable or useless. It's almost antithetical to the idea of a reputable source. If you start from the premise that some sources or more reputable than others you seemingly offload the responsibility of establishing truth to other people who will take advantage of that power you've giving them to make you live in a lie so they can profit from it.
But if you don't offload this responsibility you can basically consume any lie or any media and be unaffected because even while you may temporarily believe the wrong thing, you're opening yourself to so many things that you'll eventually move on from it. You don't get trapped into a particular world view.
Kinda rambling as I think about it.
can you provide any sources for that claim? pretty sure snopes deboonked it
Diversion, because they are getting destroyed in an argument. Just one of their escape tactics.
this is a strange hill to be contrarian on, how do you think you can convince the average joe that you are right if you just say "trust me bro im right"? how can i be sure that you are not a psyop faggot posining the well?
providing source doesnt mean "send le peer reviewed study", its means "what led you to this conclusion?" if you say "niggers destroy states" and cant provide examples like rodhesia, south africa you deserve to be mocked because you are so low iq you cant even post the most basic bitch examples. 99% of randos i trvke'd were convinced just by showing migrant births as a % of total births in the country, its not that hard
Because their shit never holds up on their own, and they think that goes for everything.
Leftists cannot into experimentation & logic.
Religion is endless reference to higher authority, the point if science is to not be like that.
Leftists have missed that memo and become a living illustration of why that is so necessary; they have become like those retarded bible quoters in all but the content of their claims.
Most people need official input from the world government and its "academic" authority. They need official papers to believe a thing as "true".
Except you can provide a leftist 50 academic sources showing them they are wrong, and they will just shit all over the chessboard. They ask for sources because they are intellectually dishonest and bankrupt.
Since liberalism is based on a series of assumptions that are observably untrue (i.e. everything that flows from tabula rasa and fanatical egalitarianism), they have learned to dismiss their own observations as a defect to be overcome. They therefore instantly assume YOUR observations must be defective and will only accept them if the high priest of their religion ("the expert") has granted clemency.
It's just a way of killing the discussion without (at least they think so) looking like a dork. In decent and really scientific societies people piss on your face for that.
liberalism
leftist
Don't eat this again.
science points to a higher authority in the sense that it belives in absolute Reason, it is the higher authority, the problem (and the difference with 18th and 19th/early 20th century science) is that now people belive reason is man made instead of a transcended law of the cosmos
If we all did this we would still think the sun was orbiting earth
I have a strong connection to the shadow I just know things
Why are you ashamed to say Fox News told you?
Posted from my science device created by hundreds of years of science
The fun thing is that sources and proofs are the worst way to work with ordinary people. You should use rhetoric and basic logic for that.
Most of the people disagree with you NOT cause they don't know something and obviously giving them more info wouldn't change anything.
Their idea of a source is some journalists opinion.
I've linked all, study, BBC, and journalist opinion but their idea of source is preddit most voted post
Why do leftists always ask for sources?
Do you have source to support your implied claim?
Bc the truth is illegal
raining clouds are darker but it's harder to spot them if all sky is grey
Tabula rasa is one of the core tenets of liberalism, espoused by people like Locke. The rot goes old and deep my friend. Modern leftism is just the natural, fatalistic conclusion of enlightenment era liberalism - a complete rejection of reality in order to preserve the original, grotesquely flawed presumption.
Well, leftist do inherit from the liberals but today we usually separate them. The roots are idealistic but the approach is very different.
in a public setting, true, rethoric is more important but on a 1 on 1 or personal setting people want to know how you came to this conclusion. you cant give a hitler speech to ur mom
That is the mistake they want you to make. You can't cure stage 4 cancer by going back to stage 1 cancer.
a complete rejection of reality in order to preserve the original, grotesquely flawed presumption.
all systems in general are. Monarchy especially. Only system that has some matemstical backing is direct is democracy due to wisdom of the crowds. And original assumption is it wont be perfect but the choices wont be disasterus which will bring greater benefits long term.
Why do leftists always ask for sources?
Source?
a leftist wants to take everything you have except your job
a liberal wants a leftist to take everything you have except your job
it's a distinction without a difference
people build a model of the objective world through their subjective experiences.
you can do that if you like, but that's a religion, not science
science is about identifying everything that is false, and determining what is true by eliminating the false
of course liberals don't believe in objective reality, which is why everything they do inevitably turns into a religion
Lefties source chickenry happen for 3 reasons:
1. As a mechanism to filter any information that would actually challenge their base assumptions about the world and humanity
2. As a stalling tactic to have someone waste their time in the hope they will go away so leftie can claim victory
3. They are literal retards incapale of rational observation
Reminder to report flat earthers.
If you start from the premise that some sources or more reputable than others you seemingly offload the responsibility of establishing truth to other people who will take advantage of that power you've giving them to make you live in a lie so they can profit from it.
Poeple who back the system wont deny this but will invent some fallacy hur dur You use Iphone so you migh as well be a slave.
Truth is centralization of power is root of all evil. It eas during caveman times it was during early civilizations. You literally have instincts to not allow it predating human race.
But if you don't offload this responsibility you can basically consume any lie or any media and be unaffected because even while you may temporarily believe the wrong thing, you're opening yourself to so many things that you'll eventually move on from it. You don't get trapped into a particular world view.
I think this is genetic. Some poeple really have authoritarian tendencies. Like Germans for example or Japanese.
Its funny its like override switch. They have logic when looking at machine's that are broken but 0 logic involved when looking at society.
You also have poeple that are too lazy or mentally exhausted to think.
because they run the education system top to bottom and most of their "studies" are horseshit. ever notice how every couple of years these articles pop up and then reverse
red wine good, dark chocolate bad
dark chocolate good, red wine bad
red wine good, dark chocolate bad
dark chocolate good, red wine bad
over and over. it's just endless nepotism and bureaucratic bullshit churning out bs
If the earth is flat how does that change my life at all?
because constantly asking for sources does two things for lefties
one, it obfuscates obvious truths because the majority of important discussion revolves around stuff that it would be impossible for a source unless someone just made upbullshit
second, it reinforces lefties love of appeal to authority it makes them feel like they are highly intelligent and an authority themselves by making you get a source that is likely aligned with their political spectrum specially because if it doesnt have a proper lefty conclusion they will say its a bad source anyways
its the ultimate midwit lefty brain way of trying to have a discussion while at the same time shutting out anyone who isnt aligned with them
So vaccine makers make a claim, you are not supposed to ask for sources?
Monarchy is the natural order of things. Even the most primitive tribes ever found have a leader of some description. The method of succession is the thing that becomes unnatural when the rigid rules lead to appointing obviously unsuitable candidates.
preddit is to US and Israel like Russia today's is to Putin.
They have logic when looking at machine's that are broken but 0 logic involved when looking at society.
because society is not logical, it is an imaginary social construct that is only subject to one single law of nature: "Where imagination contradicts reality, reality overrules imagination."
liberals keep trying to pretend imaginary things are objective and reality is subjective, and it's literally why every single thing they do fails
sources actually is swallowing bullshit
if youve ever worked in academia or scientific community for long you realize majority of sources unrelated to specific objective fields are made up bullshit and useless trash
any sources that this thread isn't just ai generated posts? post sources or i'm not gonna believe you. also post source that i'm a real human.
Monarchy is the natural order of things. Even the most primitive tribes ever found have a leader of some description.
Thats just not true. Democracy's was present in ancient Greeks ancient Germanic s ancient Slavs. Look at it logically The best hunter can be in Best case as Strong and as capable as 3 poeple. Opinion of one man cannot overrun opinion of 20 in natural setting.
The method of succession is the thing that becomes unnatural when the rigid rules lead to appointing obviously unsuitable candidates
thats the defining thing of monarchy.You are describing Dictatorship that never really lasts either dwelves in to monarchy or collapses.
Because they respect authority, not methodology.
Sources have a place in academia and journalism. If you make a claim, you should be transparent with what kind of evidence you have to support it. That's all sources are, really. It's just transparency in what you're using as evidence. If your evidence is ass, we can see that your statement is shit.
Problem is, sourcing your claims is just a very narrow form of evidence. I don't need to source Newtonian physics, you can go and validate them with experiments. Reality itself works as evidence to support the framework.
weaponized ignorance
you sure have it easy
LOL
If you don’t have a source, they smugly think they win. If you do give a source, they’ll smugly attack the source and suggest you “educate” yourself.
The history of science and mathematics is full of anonymously and pseudonymously published proofs. The fact that nobody knows the source doesn't invalidate them.
Asking for sources is good. That's what an intelligent person does.
No, intelligent people ask for methodology. Prioritizing who over how is an appeal to authority fallacy. Who = journalism. How = science.
Asking for sources, which are taken as gospel if they come from academia, is a form of leftist authoritarianism
But this wasn't always the case. Academic sources were regularly dismissed by the left if they don't promote the narrative. There are countless nobel laureates who have been cancelled by the left. The left have an entire movement focused on "decolonizing" universities. The left see universities as a hill to be controlled and are fighting to gain control of them, and the more control they gain the more they will demand that you blindly accept everything that these institutions say, but they don't respect these institutions in and of themselves, they only respect them insomuch as they control them, and they only control them if and when the opposition doesn't fight for them, likely due to not recognizing their importance in the larger conflict.
You are arguing why it shouldn't be true, not that it isn't. It is an observable fact humans natural sort themselves into hierarchies, and at the top of that hierarchy is a monarch. You used ancient Greece as an example of why this is not inevitable, which is hilarious, since monarch is a word derived from ancient Greek.
Hereditary succession is also not the defining feature of monarchy, that is a ludicrous statement. In fact, the earliest forms of monarchy are usually elective and only later degenerate into hereditary succession. See Anglo-Saxon England, the Eastern Roman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, and yes, many of the states of Ancient Greece, as examples.
liberals keep trying to pretend imaginary things are objective and reality is subjective
society is a social construct. And Logically the goal should be greatest freedom and greatest quality of life for its inhabitants.
So you can view it through that lense.
Leftists aka buerocrats view current buerocracy that they are a part of as a law of nature.Ther goal is expansion of current buerocracy even though it kills life itself.
Many poeple here have the same rethoric. For examples wee need birth rates to pay for boomers shit. Like Boomers pensions and wasteful government are not just social construct we can get rid off.
To waste your time and wear you down. Even when you give sources from sources they themselves normally think trustworthy, they l'll just make up some bullshit, deny or move goalposts. Understand that they hate the concept of objective truth and are fundamentally dishonest people. Its not about being cirrect, but about winning for them. You should do the same.
This too.
lol this is such an elaborate way of saying "just believe my stupid bullshit. Don't ask how I came to my conclusion"
I feel like discord culture harms the left more than it helps them in the long term. Making knowledge freely accessible is something that is extremely popular with the masses and is something that the left had effectively "copyrighted" (i'm aware of the irony) until recently. Until very recently, if you supported publicly available knowledge then you were probably a leftist because the left "owns" that idea. The move from public forums to private discord groups is basically them surrendering this ground. When information is shared in forums the knowledge becomes freely available to all but when information is shared in discord groups it is effectively privatized. As the left continue to move towards discord culture they alienate the subset of their supporters who value public knowledge. Much like how universities are a hill to be fought for, forums are similar. If forum culture is associated with your faction then your faction will be seen as the faction of publicly available knowledge.
True; however, it's not worth arguing with these people. Why do these threads exist? They ask you for a source, when they only read headlines.
The act is that of vindication. They want to pretend they are comparing your information to that of their own.
Their own? From being terminally online, their brain is miswired to conflate Google and Wikipedia as their knowledge. And so they believe themselves to be objective.
See the Norman Finkelstein vs. Destiny debate. It's terrifying, to see in action how their thought processes work.
You used ancient Greece as an example of why this is not inevitable, which is hilarious, since monarch is a word derived from ancient Greek.
So is democracy Demos is poeple,so is tyranny You are mentally retarded of you consider this word play an actuall argument.
In fact, the earliest forms of monarchy are usually elective and only later degenerate into hereditary succession.
So you sre arguing democracy is good to pick the ruler but not good to mske the decision. What if ruler goes senile becomes a drunk etc ? The solution seems to be s new election lets say every 20 year.
By following this logic by narrowing the voting gap we will reach direct democracy.
Because they know that there is little chance you will ever have one on hand and its hard to quickly "google" for something meanwhile they can flood you with fake MSM articles after one quick google search.
make statement the leftist disagrees with
leftist demands source
source is provided
leftist moves goalposts and refuses to accept the information as provided
like clockwork. if any of these "SCIENCE!!!!" leftists actually understood a shred of science, they couldn't possibly have ended up where they are
Lefties and normies in general have an obsession with what surrounds information rather than the information itself, and they tend to be extremely emotionally driven.
If you had some black man go on a stage and explain a heartwarming story about how 2+2=5, most normies would genuinely leave the building with the belief that 2+2 actually does equal 5.
nobel laureates who have been cancelled by the left.
James Watson said that niggers are dumber because of their race, Leuchter did his job as a chemist with empirical results, Irving did his job as a historian. They were all thrown to the wolves by the jewish golems that are leftists, because they are such braiwashed rabid terrorist retards, that if you don't come to the conclusions they want you to, they'll systematically accuse you of having been biased from the start. Leftists are terrorists and must be dealt with accordingly.
They worship scientism, listening to any retard with a white coat. They reject empirical studies and are blind to the fact 90+% of supposedly empirical studies in academia are entirely made-up or frauds in some way, by very gross means, even in Harvard.
My own father goes to a group called "The reunions of critical thought" (Les rencontres de l'esprit critique) where all he does is listen to "experts". Then I have to hear about "hur dhur, some people say viruses are not real, they so dumb, me smort becoz I listen to white coat!". Listening to a white coat who listened to Pasteur who listened to Rabbi R Rabinowitz is not science.
source ?
Exactly this, libtards and marxists subhumans only want to control you and steal your resources or prevent you from acquiring them so you essentially starve.
They ask you to prove that 1+1=2 because they want to tire you and make you waste precious and limited time, they always ask for reliable sources but as soon as that source proves them wrong it stops being reliable.
Last but by any means not least, because you cannot prove them wrong without talking about the origin of the problem and thus exposing the jew, so this way they can threaten you to publicly shame you, slander you or call the police/psychiatrists on you.
They serve so that they may control you.
They are power junkies.
Their only purpose in life is to blackmail others because they are essentially a parasite that will die if left on its own.
They are professional liars and they only know to bootlick and backstab.
They are hypocrites and they don't believe one bit on what they say.
They don't really think since they're not really human and they substitute thought with bodily functions called feelings, but even there they're not actually self aware.
They are not people.
they worship scientism
They worship celebrities and tv personalities.
They worship the newspapers and the news on tv.
They are the exact opposite of someone who trusts science.
They only use the perceived authority of science as an emotional argument to gain power over you.
And the funniest part is that all it takes to break their spell is just to ignore them.
bwahaaha nice pic, saved.
Prove to me that the post you just wrote was written in english.
Leftists are fucking gay
An intelligent person makes up their mind critically. Midwits don’t understand that a source can be made up just like a claim. They just want to seem intelligent. They don’t care about what’s true or not
Yes and it's probably the reason that silly simulation theory is going around some places.
rationalwiki.org
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You need to provide something to back up claims; sources or other premises, otherwise you're not making an argument but just an assertion, and then you haven't said anything at all.
The definition of an argument is one claim/assertion/proposition/statement backed up by one or more other claims/assertions/propositions/statements.
They do not have internal monologue hence they lack the ability for self -assessment of received information. They also tend to glue emotions and political stances to their perceived reality look at this retards here:
They need something/someone to confirm their decisions on certain views because they are not able to do this themselves.
Because as others have said, their side has managed full institutional capture and their side has turned the scientific method from reproduceable studies into peer review.
So there is no sources by their redefinition of scientific method, because their review journals gatekeep and "retract" studies which go against their narrative.
The absolute Chutzpah of these kikes calling a rejection of a study by a journal, a "retraction", implying the people who did the study are the ones who removed the study and not the journal itself.
I hate jews so much.
I would be thrilled to prove anything I say, but the thing is that your counterargument would be: laughing at me, pretending to not understand and calling me a schizo.
Therefore you just prove you're arguing in bad faith and your only objective is to halt me because that's what your master (you being aware of it or not) demands.
The meekest counterargument I've received was being accused of being "right wing" when hitler was a zionist jew and I think the common people should be protected from tyrants and governments.
You would accuse me of not having any proofs when the person I just accused of murder just burned his own house down to burn any proof with it.
Same brother.
((retraction))
The study *"Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial"* was **retracted by the journal** (*International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents*) and its co-owners, **Elsevier** and the **International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy (ISAC)**, following an investigation into ethical and methodological concerns
### Key Points on the Retraction Process
1. **Journal-Initiated Retraction**
- The retraction was **not voluntary** by the authors. The journal's Research Integrity and Publishing Ethics Team, alongside ISAC and an independent ethics advisor, concluded that the study violated publishing ethics and research conduct standards
2. **Grounds for Retraction**
- **Ethical Approval Issues**: Unclear if patient recruitment began before ethical approval was secured (dated March 5–6, 2020, vs. "early March" enrollment) .
- **Informed Consent Concerns** Azithromycin use (not standard care at the time) lacked clear evidence of patient consent
- **Methodological Flaws**: Three co-authors (Courjon, Giordanengo, Honoré) disavowed the study, citing biased data interpretation and inconsistent PCR testing protocols between study sites .
3. **Author Disputes**
- Five authors, including lead author Philippe Gautret, **opposed the retraction**, disputing the journal's conclusions
- Corresponding author Didier Raoult (who has multiple prior retractions) did not respond to the journal’s inquiries during the investigation
4. **Timing**
- Published March 2020, retracted January 2025 after a **four-year controversy** and repeated calls for retraction from scientists
### Summary:
The retraction was **enforced by the publishers** (Elsevier/ISAC) due to ethical breaches and unreliable methods, despite objections from some authors. It highlights tensions between rapid pandemic-era science and peer-review accountability
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This is the chief argument of any marxist ever by design.
Triggered a lot of midwits with this one
they don't make arguments so I won't either
There you go, you accused me with a lie and started provoking me by mocking me, not sure if you're trolling for fun but you just confirmed anything I said.
The only argument of a marxist is posting a chudjak (a kike)/telling you have a small penis/accusing you of not being a grown up.
The leftist thinks elementary school is eternal and argues the same way.
Lies lies nonstop lies.
Just ask them if they trusted the (((science))) and listened to the (((experts))) during covid.
Also we get trained throughout all our schooling career into thinking emotionally and considering our rationality only useful when carrying out the tasks we get assigned.
We dug our own grave.
Nope. I'm saying your reasoning is just the same as "he started!". You said leftists don't make arguments, so therefore you don't need to. So what if someone else doesn't make arguments?
HE LIED TO PROTECT US OK?
WE ARE CHILDREN THEREFORE WE NEED TO BE TREATED LIKE CHILDREN!
MOOOOMMMYYYYYY! MOOOOOMMMYYYYYY! THIS INCEL IS HURTING MY FEELINGS MOMMYYYY!
Asking for sources is good. That's what an intelligent person does.
political arguments are pointless and asking for that source is also pointless. It is mostly not even worth it to request evidence.
USAID is wasting your money funding things you oppose
do you ask for a source or evidence or just kill USAID? This is a representative government, you don't even choose to cancel or keep USAID. You get to vote for a person once every few years and your vote probably did not matter.
why would I want a source?
Then you are a retard who doesn't understand shit, I'm just saying that it's no use buying their lottery ticket when the game is rigged and everyone knows it.
Sex having, non-schizoid reality dwellers ask for evidence because your claims are worthless without it. This is why you live in a trailer park
No, you don't refute someone's non-argument by presenting an equally dumb non-argument back. You present actual facts and logic, and then it's their problem if they don't have facts and logic to counter with.
Delusional, you're like a retarded child that lives in a reality where the core belief is "Santa is real".
only derisions, false accusations, emotional arguments and insults
The leftist has been conditioned to lie with every thought and spoken word, he will spend the rest of his life lying even to himself. Until he dies.
No, you don't refute someone's non-argument by presenting an equally dumb non-argument back.
I didn't do that.
Lies counter goes up by one yet again.
My source is that I made it the fuck up
Excellent impression of a marxist, projecting is the core of their essence.
Asking for sources is good. That's what an intelligent person does. Stupid people make things up and uncritically swallow bullshit
Hmmm. You got a source for that? I'm gonna need a source. Definitely need you to give me a source, chuddie. Hm? Source? Yeah I'm gonna need a source for this. Did an expert do a double blind study for these results? Cause I'm gonna need you to source this.
Why does the right wing treat reality as subjective?
Hmmm. Well, I'm gonna need a source that says they do. Do you have a source? A peer reviewed source? No, not THAT peer, a real peer. Yeah, didn't think so, chuddie. You'll need an accredited source to prove that.
Gonna need a source on that. No, your eyes aren't a source. I'm gonna need a professional, accredited source.
This had to be another jewish humiliation ritual.
Fauci has to be a crypto jew, he has that nasally whiny voice which many kikes have.
They ask for sources because they are intellectually dishonest and bankrupt.
Hm. That seems odd. You got a source on that? I'm gonna need a source. An accredited source. No, you saying that observation isn't a source. A real source please. Can't do it? Hm. Wow. Nice try chuddie, but we'll need a source on that to continue this conversation.
well he's a new yorker and there's where most of them live
the problem (and the difference with 18th and 19th/early 20th century science) is that now people belive reason is man made instead of a transcended law of the cosmos
Yeah, well, that is gonna need a source. I don't think you have one, do you? You'll need a to do better than that.
sources and proofs are the worst way to work with ordinary people. You should use rhetoric and basic logic for that.
Wow. Now THIS is problematic. I'm gonna need a few sources on this. I don't think that's true at all, and you'll need to provide a few peer reviewed studies to back up your claims on that. No source, chuddie? Yeah, thought so. Science wins again.
its pointless for a race discussion because no academic could even do a fucking study on why niggers or jews suck so much
They're the experts CHUD. They already have their sources and they're smarter than us because they know SCIENCE. Wouldn't expect a chud like you to understand PEER REVIEWED science.
yeah jew york accent is the worst.
Yes.
Because they respect authority, not methodology.
Oh wow. I can't even. This is so problematic. Lets unpack this. The authority is science, chud. You'd know that if you had a source to back you up.
They are agents of C.H.U.D.?
Anon is doomed I will use the chud protocols
Excellent impression of a marxist, projecting is the core of their essence
You got on a source on that? I'm gonna need to see a source. A s-o-u-r-c-e. Yeah, peer reviewed source on that, chuddie.
They are agents of C.H.U.D.
I'm gonna need a source that says they are.
They do, but they need to hide it behind euphemisms. They talk about geographic populations and genomics and ancestral genetics. The actual definitions of which are the same as a proper definition of race, which they overtly deny as being a social construct.
EXCEPT YOU ARE THE RETARD IN THE ROOM
Because they do not have a high IQ. Imagine asking Sherlock Holmes for sources.
It's called sealioning.
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Stupid people make things up and uncritically swallow bullshit.
Source?
Indeed you didn't, you said that's what you should do when "arguing" with a leftist. Maybe stop strawmanning and learn basic logic.
Nothing you said in that post is even remotely true.
Because according to a study that I won't link, rightists lie more often than they speak the truth
Here’s a source: my own ideas
I hate Jews because I don’t like the look of them, everything else is just icing on the cake
Yeah it is, that's what you implied. Make an explicit point if you don't want people to have to figure out what you actually mean.
tpbp
nothing new that Anon Babble is 99% retards who know jack shit about logic
Why won't you just believe any bullshit I make up?
Shouldn't have told so many lies than. There's a reason why the bible says "Do Not Give False Testimony."
because they are more socialist than liberal, a real liberal enjoys rights/laws that provide them freedom, a socialist wants rights/laws that take away freedom for safety.
If you are a more socialist, then your brain is wired to need to be told what to do by authority.
Ask Sherlock Holmes how he knows what he does
Half of each story is Sherlock Holmes explaining how he found out shit.
And like that you're opinion is discarded.
The people that injected bleach to cure Covid.
Why would I want to know the truth
Why would I want to think critically
I want someone I personally like to tell me what I personally want to hear.
Anon Babblecels are trannies and you can't change my mind. This thread confirms it.
It's always a gaslight to make you click on some ad revenue psyop article with tracking cookies and spyware. Every. Single. Time.
FPBP
Same reason why circumcision and trannies are widespread in the West.
So they can provide counter-evidence and defame your sources.
This podcast interviews the guy that wrote the paper about rape culture in dog parks.
Socrates in the City: James Lindsey: Exposing the Insanity of Modern Academia
Episode webpage: socratesinthecity.com
Media file: socratesinthecityaudio.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com
You're lying ad nauseam and now you're putting on me the burden to disprove your lies.
Do not give false testimony only to your fellow brothers, we are goyim we are not the people of israel therefore it's permitted to lie to us.
No, I'm not. Your posts are nothing but strawman, bait-and-switch, red herring, motte-and-bailey etc. You pilpul by saying something, then next post you go "I didn't say that!". Learn basic logic. Your "arguing" is to derail by default, you're a train wreck, and you wrecked yourself.
Mostly because they tend to be smarter that conservatives.
Your entire post is nothing but projection.
You're a disgrace for your flag, unless you are a kike living there or just a very bored swede.
I hate that. It only takes 2 brain cells to think that maybe cutting off erogenous nerve endings from your penis might reduce pleasure, especially since many men have come out and said that. However, because a circumfetishist managed to submit a few fake meta-studies it's scientific "fact" that it doesn't.
Same with tranny surgery. Make sure to end your study on a horrific dystopian nightmare surgery at the height of trying to convince themselves that they didn't permanently fuck up their life, to pass it off as helpful.
It's mostly television, not even doctors or shrinks believe circumcision or tooning is good for you.
They rely on the masses who get brainwashed hourly by television and social media plus the utterly corrupt schooling system.
Why do leftists always ask for sources?
Do you have a source on that?
Why do they get confused when you tell them the book title?
is good for you
It makes them money and is ok according to their licensing boards.
Morality nor ethics guide these people.
200 years together, forget that masonic crap written by that kike of adolf hitler, that's a book.
Unfortunately is illegal to own, sell and purchase in many parts of the world, and even when it gets printed it gets heavily redacted.
A marxist will say that this is not proof enough.
Well it makes sense to ask for sources but many "leftists" or sophists in general ask for sources that prove 2+2=4.
Those people are not interested in a discussion in good faith or they are just retarded.
Why do leftists always ask for sources?
They cannot exist without the opinions of others.
The people that injected bleach to cure Covid.
People that injected bleach AND CURED covid.