/uhg/ - Ukraine Happening General #17316

Day: 1176 — Daily battlefield assessment:
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Zelensky is in Turkiyë for negotiations

US Approves Transfer of ATACMS and Patriot Missiles From Germany to Ukraine

Ukraine declares victory in the battle for Povkvorsk

Kadyrov begs to be dismissed from the 3day SMO because he knows russia lost

UAV crashed into Belgorod Region government building. Deputy Governor of Belgorod Region and Rosgvardia officer injured

Security Service of Ukraine exposed spy network of agents, working on behalf of Hungarian Military intelligence, 2 suspects were detained

Trump: Talks with russia/Ukraine continue, the U.S. calls for, ideally, a 30-day unconditional ceasefire

The 3-day ceasefire announced by russia is a farce, they violated it 734 by midday - Ukrainian MFA Sybiha

Mineral deal between the US and Ukraine ratified by Ukrainian Parliament

moscow bombed for three days in a row

Ukrainian naval drone shot down a russian Su-30 fighter jet using a modified R-73 air-to-air missile

Ammunition seen detonating after a Ukrainian drone strike in Saki, Crimea, where a russian air base is located

F-16s pulled from U.S. boneyard are being delivered to Ukraine for spare parts

The US has approved first $50M arms sale to Ukraine through direct commercial sales (DCS)

The Security Service of Ukraine prevented the murder of activist and volunteer Serhiy Sternenko and detained the attacker

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ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)

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▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)
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TOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt

TZD

brave monke status?

Ukraine is considering sending a representative of “appropriate level” to participate in talks with Russia in Istanbul to hear its position, — Reuters.
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Russia literally fought one war against the Nazis, as part of the allies.

Ukraine is going to send a clown?

COME TO TURKEY ON 15TH

ok I'm here where are you?

HOW DARE YOU!

I mean fair. Zele probably could take him in a 1v1 fight and Putin's paranoia probably only grows with his age.

Zeleboba is above actual physical violence. I doubt he'd even insult him, he's taking his job as a president seriously.

Yahoooo

Í think they should sent Big verison of the Ukrainian Flag to match wits with the Russhits intelligence in that room

More than two weeks ago, a larger column of at least 18 Cheetah SPAAGs without insignia was spotted by one of my followers (@SpassovVladimir) in Eastern Germany. It can be assumed that the train was travelling eastwards to #Ukraine.

Up to 60 Cheetah SPAAGs (Dutch version of the Gepard SPAAG) were bought back from Jordan by the US (up to 45) and Germany (15). However, the at least 18 SPAAGs visible in the images exceed the remaining pledges made by Germany, so in my opinion this should either be a mixed delivery (Germany and the US) or a pure US delivery.

OPSEC disclaimer: I waited more than two full weeks before publishing the images to preserve OPSEC. This is more than enough time to bring the equipment to Ukraine, distribute it to the units and for them to be already using the equipment.

I also want to point out, that Gepard SPAAGs and Cheetah SPAAGs are being used far away from the front line to defend cities, military installations and critical infrastructure throughout the whole country. I'm also not going to share where in East Germany the images were taken.

CC: @gepardtatze
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we want to negotiate

N-NO, NOT LIKE THAT!

you have to be trump levels retarded to still think the pidors want any negotiations in good faith

Monke's paranoia knows no bounds.

appropriate level

Some random local idiot? Because that's pretty much what Russia sent.

I have no idea why is shelomov so insane that he is provoking trump. His bravado is empty.

I expect to see zigger's finest glazing to the orange retard during these negotiation days

Some random local idiot?

the Women who cleans the Plane?

Meanwhile

Trump arrives in the UAE.
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TZD

Wtf aren't they supposed to wear headscarfs?

fuck knows anon, I don't what happens in Sandnigger land

what in the fuck is going on in that video
why are these women headbanging

Nafotroons really believe this

To be explicit, Russia did not fight alone on the Eastern Front. The USSR, which consisted of multiple republics, fought there. And yes, it does add up: Georgia alone contributed around 700,000 officers and soldiers (about 20 percent of its 3.2–3.4 million citizens mobilized). An estimated 300,000–500,000 Armenians served in the war, and Ukraine contributed around 5 million men.

The USSR itself was part of the Allies, which included the British and French Empires, as well as the United States of America.

Dravidian,has Xi said anything about fellow BRICS member Russia fighting Ukraine, or India—another BRICS partner—fighting China's ally, Pakistan?

life is like a zigger here in old zig
I hate fucking ziggers
they all suck dick
they are poor like vanja
fucking stupid vanja
ziggers I hate them

zig tales wohoo

Wait isn't Pakistan the one allied to China and Russia now?

Shouldn't you update your script?

Also, whiter than you

Quickly guys, there's just enough time to fly to Ukraine and enlist in Azov!!!

You too can fertilize the bread basket with your flesh!

It's very surreal seing russian simps in this board praise Hitler and nazis in one thread and then taking credit for defeating them in another.

If only you knew how brown things really are

Zigger films himself getting droned:
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That screeching sound of these drones is really terrifying.

damn that's quite sudden

ESL, notice this
'another BRICS partner—fighting China's ally, Pakistan

' China's ally, Pakistan'

my script is perfect, you're just ESL.

I especially like it when we have one shill calling us antisemites and another one calling us jews in this thread at the same time. Shit is funny as fuck lol.

Everyone knows the real nazis are the ukies

Your country hasn't be relevant since the 1600s

None brics countries have ever been relevant. Like, no one gives a fuck that India is fighting Pakistan. It has no bearing on this world.

whiter than you

Only browns say this

Cause the soundtrack is bitchin

I hate globohomo worshipping glownigger simps so much it's unreal, you all deserve to have your children mulched and their remains forced down your gullet until you explode. Every time a globohomo enforcement agent steps on a mine the world gets slightly better.

Bending the knee or THD, what do you choose?

Least entertaining pasta

IT'S HAPPENING!! BANANA IS GOING EXTINCT

They're the same choice

monke is a complete coward that was so scared of the chink flu, he hid in his cuck bunker and held off the entire invasion for 2 years. he would never come anywhere near zelensky because even that jew manlet mogs him

None brics countries

Kek go back to remedial English Lithuanian swamp creature

he hid in his cuck bunker and held off the entire invasion for 2 years.

Maybe it's their equivalent of throwing bras and panties on stage to appease the burger boss.

Why cant we live in the timeline where this happens

Who knew that breeding the ability to seed and reproduce would have unfortunate consequences down the line?
Yes, all regular bananas are graft clones.

"You want to rename our Toretsk? I won’t allow it!" — that’s how the commander of the first company of the 49th Separate Rifle Battalion "Carpathian Sich," call sign "Bandera," speaks to a captured Russian soldier.
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France will transfer to Ukraine all wheeled CAESAR self-propelled howitzers produced in 2025, President Macron announced.

Around 12 units are manufactured each month, so the total could reach up to 144 — several times more than have been delivered throughout all the years of the full-scale war.
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French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot and U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham will meet in Turkey to discuss new sanctions against Russia.

"Russia has found ways to bypass the blockade imposed by Europe and the U.S., so we need to shut off the tap in a way that grabs Russia by the throat." - said the French minister.
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lol, brainlet, lmao
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgar_Latin

Trump on a possible meeting with Putin in Turkey.
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"Making money in Ukraine isn’t as easy as you think." - says a Chechen fighter, now complaining while carrying the body of a fallen comrade. The war in Ukraine turned out to be nothing like he expected.
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"Before and after" Russia's "help" in Toretsk, Donetsk region.
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Russian Tarantino-style dialogues. He called her from captivity, but she’s already falling apart and drinking herself into oblivion. The mysterious Russian soul in all its glory.
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TikTok warrior finds out that war isn't comfy at all

lmao serves him right.

"None brics"

post random wikipedia page

Typical, the Lithuanian is drunk again

The top engineers of the world’s second army will assemble one car out of three Moskvichs.
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Chat, is that real?

"The only obstacle to establishing peace is Russia’s lack of a clear will to do so. I am waiting to see who will represent Russia — only then will I determine what steps Ukraine should take." - Zelensky in his evening address.
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On the Kursk–Sumy direction, the Russians got hit hard. Ukraine’s Defense Forces delivered a precise strike on an enemy artillery position along with its ammunition stockpile.

As a result, the ammo was destroyed, three occupiers were wounded and Russian D-20 howitzer also left the chat for a while.
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The Estonians gave a "very warm" welcome to a Russian oil tanker sailing under the flag of Gabon through international waters of the Gulf of Finland en route to the port of Primorsk.
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Brazilian President Lula da Silva arrived in Russia ahead of schedule to persuade Putin to come to Istanbul.

So... which Vladimir will go?
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A meeting of the Foreign Ministers of Ukraine, France, Germany, and Poland has begun in Turkey.
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No idea but it would be in line with their general retardation, yes.

The President of Ukraine has already arrived in Ankara, Turkey, for a meeting with President Erdoğan.
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The Russian drones that Russians proudly showcased at their parade have indeed "found their use."

Fighters from the 63rd Brigade have "grounded" a rare Russian bird - the ZALA Z-20 drone. This reconnaissance UAV is supposedly equipped with artificial intelligence for target detection.
Well, it doesn’t seem to be helping it much.
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I mean aren't they also planning on banning anime figures? Its not really a big step for them to start banning memes they think "corrupt" children.

Zelensky has sent a message to Putin.
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Zelensky's spokesperson, Serhii Nykyforov, announced that the meeting between the Presidents of Ukraine and Turkey has already begun in Ankara.
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In b4 Trump blames Ukraine for being unwilling again.

Meanwhile, Trump has his own vibe.
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"The ball is clearly in the Russians' court right now. The Russians are sending a low-level delegation and are not taking advantage of the opportunity." – NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte.
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In the morning, unidentified missiles completely destroyed a bridge in the village of Snagost, Kursk region — but the Russians are having a great time nonetheless.
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The US is proposing to resume security talks within the NATO-Russia Council, according to Bloomberg. he NRC has not met since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
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When will the pigkraine stop losing?

I'm kinda sure this was the whole reason why Monke demanded this meeting.

ask for peace talks in Istanbul

don't go there and send a delegation of unimportant retards instead

they make ridiculous demands no sane person would ever accept

shills are now all like "reee why didn't Ukraine accept peace!"

Trump being Trump believes them

It's typical Monke behavior and it's sad that so many idiots fall for it.

Blowup of the Russian motorcyclist in the Pokrovsk direction.
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Russia does not want to cease fire until a broader strategy is agreed, — Reuters citing Russians
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The meeting of the presidents of Ukraine and Turkey has ended in Ankara. It lasted almost 3 hours, - Anadolu

Meanwhile, Russian propagandists write that their delegation in Istanbul will soon make an "important statement".
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JD Vance will attend Pope Leo's inaugural mass on Sunday, - Reuters
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oh fuck

That pope is yet another nonce protector, so good riddance.

"Erdogan confirmed to us that he considers Crimea Ukrainian," — Zelensky
x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1923015471739080886

what's the worst that can happen?

new pope dies of cringe

possible, but I think he will reign from twenty to thirty years.

cofi status?

Especially Indians.

well I heard that he is quite young for a pope.

He's young enough to be molested by his own Cardinal's.

Russians and their shills boast about defeating the Nazis, but also live in constant fear of them. Very similar to what Jews do.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!

TZD

Russian soldier forgot his place in russia and said all muslims should be killed.
But fellow Alsorussian soldiers quickly brought him back to reality by kicking him in the face. Reminding the arrogant Russian about the pyramid of the Russian world.

No parking allowed

One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me

Marshal Zukov on the Lend-Lease Act according to his memoirs.

Reads the WSJ and cites it unironically

Its no wonder you're an NPCiA.

Zukov

That's not a Soviet general, retard. Also, a Soviet general would not write his memoir in English.

that's not why they're going extinct and most natural bananas reproduce without using seeds, too.

Bait used to be believable. Come to /ptg/, it has lots of good baitposters go there maybe you'll learn something.

Zukov

That's not a Soviet general,

tranny are you ok?

Zhukov never said that. Khruschev said that

They do be like that

The UK and USA were fighting in the Pacific (including areas such as the Philippines, Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, and Okinawa), in Africa, in Sicily, in Italy, in France, in the Benelux region, and in Germany itself.

which is irrelevant since Russia and China could easily take on Japan

Everybody complaining about Zelensky not wearing a suit but this nigga is always dressed like that no matter the event, he went to the 9th may parade like that.

China was being btfoed since 1936 and USSR was busy fighting Germoney

russia bans the honkler pepe variation before banning cp

you are right. pidor mentality is inhuman. Banned pepe before CP

the rasha and China could easily take on Japan

Ziggers are pathetic. The rasha cannot even take on the poorest country in Europe. China is now grabbing eastern vodka lands and will only get more. Total zigger death is cleansing.

I don't see a Zukov in that photo, retard. You don't even know how to read.

Russians really embarrassing themselves in Istanbul right now.

"Putin did not arrive, so there is nothing for me, the head of SBU and the Chief of the General Staff in Istanbul, to do," — Zelensky
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Should've taken Klitschko with him. Just for laughs.

Zelensky: If there is a signal from Russia that an unconditional ceasefire can only be between the leaders of the countries, I am here.

▪If there is no ceasefire, decisions and bilateral meetings, we want a strong package of sanctions against Russia, including from the US;

▪The Ukrainian delegation will remain in Turkey tomorrow, May 16. And Erdogan and Zelensky will fly to Albania.
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LOL

Zelensky: If Putin is ready for talks, let’s meet. We can’t chase him around the world.

Zelensky: After we saw the level of the Russian delegation, we realized that they are not in the mood for serious negotiations.
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Zelensky: Trump is sending Rubio, the Turkish Foreign Minister is here, and Sybiha is here.

Where are the appropriate people from Russia? This is disrespectful to both the US and Türkiye.
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Turkish Presidency on Zelensky meeting:

President Erdogan emphasized that the current stage of the Russia-Ukraine conflict requires a resolution through direct negotiations and that reaching a minimum common ground is critical to preventing further loss of life.

Erdogan also noted that a historic opportunity has emerged to initiate negotiations, expressing strong support for talks at both the technical and leadership levels.

He reiterated that Türkiye values keeping dialogue channels open between Ukraine and Russia for the rapid establishment of peace and stands ready to host both leaders when they are prepared to meet.
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I am the guarantor of our Constitution. Crimea is Ukraine, — Zelensky

▪This is an unshakable position, we do not recognize the occupied territories as Russian.

▪We are not going to lose our lives and land.
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They didn't. That's clickbait bullshit, retard.

(You)
Holy shit, the stupid was strong in that zigger.

"Alyosha died"

"Who?"

"My brother"

"Good"

Kek.
Based Ivan.

Trump's position is to put pressure on both sides. And we are being pressured more than Russia, — Zelensky
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Honor status?

Zelensky: Putin expressed willingness to negotiate to buy time, avoid a ceasefire, and delay potential sanctions.
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FPV drone pilots of the Separate Detachment "OMEGA Wings" destroyed an enemy howitzer.
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exact same team of the first round of negotiation in 2022

somehow it's low level now

Why is zelenski like this?

We see these negotiations as a continuation of the peace process that was interrupted in 2022, - Medinsky

The goal of direct negotiations is to sooner or later achieve a long-term peace by “eliminating the basic root causes of the conflict.”
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Merz: We will confiscate frozen Russian assets if legally possible.
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Was it really that fatal that they died instantly from the crash?

Did 2022 negotiations go anywhere?
That should answer your question.
Pinya is NOT interested in peace. He's just interested in keeping the rope off his neck.

They should seize it illegally. If Russia wants it back they can launch a Special Retrievification Operation on Germany.

Not really an argument since they were sabotaged by ukraine's western partners. Possibly a bigger argument for not changing the team even, it's just a very predictable script from zelenski whose only interest is getting more gibs and convincing americans that muh russia doesn't want muh peace.

if legally possible

and here I thought Merz would be more TZD inclined

"Your President is afraid to come": Journalists in Turkiye hint that Putin is a coward, but Medinsky ignored It…
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Did Russia achieve anything with these talks?
I think Ukraine only attended because of Trump.

he was going quite fast and ended up in a narrow ditch, he might as well have eaten a wall head first.

OMG Based Ukraine savior of the white race allying with Turks!!

Why is /uhg/ like this?

Why girkin?

a bunch of nonames that don't decide anything

A waste of time like in 2022.

nope, and Ukraine can't be blamed since not even Trump showed up

The destruction of the command post of an entire Russian regiment in a residential area of Lysychansk by the crew of Su-27, - Soniashnyk

It is claimed that this is a record-breaking airstrike, as the damage was inflicted 60 km from the front line.
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you're the ones who claim to be the savior of the trad white race while simultaneously importing shitskins and sucking the cocks of niggers in africa you gaslighting sub human trash.

TDZ. The day your kind is exterminated is the day the non sub human world will celebrate.

fat nigger status?

KEK
U
C
K

TZD

Africa is whiter than turkiye

DA EBIL WECT IS WHY WE WON'T NEGOTIATE!!

Stop making so much noise while you die, then.

Has any pidor talked about the inner conflict in bric s member, South Africa?

The PREPFAR cuts for SA will go a long way towards TND

It's just exhausting.
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zissies are now saying monke didn't come out of his cave because the turks would have arrested him. I wonder if that was an actual concern for the monke tho

AFAIK trump says a lot of shit, but most of that is just rhetoric.

elect a clown expect a circus etc etc

So why did he propose talks in Turkey in the first place?

somehow in their mind it means ukraine doesn't want a ceasefire

Ukrainian preschoolers turned into ‘Russia’s little soldiers’ in occupied Luhansk
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khpg.org/en/1608814650

who even knows at this point lmao

Meanwhile in Russia: decorated state TV host Vladimir Solovyov was enraged about the very idea of negotiating with Ukraine, and insisted that Russia is not interested in a ceasefire and does not want to stop this war.
x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1922818449660649718

youtube.com/watch?v=9ulgTHLa3hU&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo7bpdyPlWscpvx2O8qSu0T1

He was in the KGB, he could beat the shit out of Zelensky. Maybe they want civilized discussion rather than a chimp out moment.

Putin sending the same people to Istanbul who, back in 2022, demanded Ukraine's surrender on his behalf is a slap in the face to the Trump administration’s efforts to end this war. The message is clear: fuck off — I have my own objectives, and they haven’t changed since 2022, just like the people representing me haven’t.
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This is called freedom of expression. In Ukraine if you have a red star on you, you are detained and jailed
And if you wave a red flag you are also beaten up before being jailed.

Trump: “Nothing’s gonna happen until Putin and I get together, ok? And obviously — he wasn’t going to go. He was going to go, but he thought I was going.“
x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1923008756503167008
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Trump added that he was not disappointed that the Russian delegation sent to Turkey Thursday for high-level talks with Ukraine did not include Putin: “I’m not disappointed in anything.”

Zelensky has said he won’t meet with any Russian representatives in Turkey besides Putin. He called the delegation who showed up Thursday “phony.”

he talks like a retard, unironically
has he ever answered any question by a journalist with something of substance instead of empty vague word salad?

Negotiations status? Did jewlensky already surrender?

He was in the KGB,

Shelomov was a bureaucrat in KGB.
Same how CIA has jobs like librarian for DEI.
Wiki states that Zelensky lived in Mongolia, probably learned wrasslin there.

sometimes he does empty vague threats

putin wasn't a librarian anon

uses an analogy

can't compreehend it

Drop the VPN.

you are also beaten up before being jailed.

This is called freedom of expression

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has banned more than 80 European newspapers and websites in Russia 25-06-2024

the analogy was dog shit, it's not a matter of comprehension

second time today

The most scared US president in history. How can Trump project so much weakness? He was the one pushing for Zelensky to go to Istanbul
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Reporter: No Putin in Turkey. Disappointed?

Trump: No.. I actually said, why would he go if I'm not going? Because I wasn't going to go. I wasn't planning to go. I would go, but I wasn't planning to go. And I said, I don't think he's going to go if I don't go. And that's turned out to be right.. but I didn't think it was possible for Putin to go if I'm not there.

Negotiations status

WHERE'S PUTIN?
WHY IS HIDING IN HIS BUNKER?
WHAT A FUCKING FAGGOT!

Trump is like Biden, but instead of being dementia funny he is just dementia sad.

If you watch my channel, you knew in advance that Putin would refuse to sit down and negotiate with Zelensky.
x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1923028965825872183

instead of being dementia funny he is just dementia sad.

you have no idea

Trump: Unless you have a really, really stupid group of people, including the president, I don't think anybody can catch us on submarines

It can stay underwater for 30 years. Think of it. The only reason it has to come up is for food. It doesn't need water because they have, you know, they have their system of water, which is they can stay forever.
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CIA is much more digitalised than KGB was when shelomov worked there. There are no direct equivalents to paper pushing* shelomov did

*Here is link to what that term means, esl
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paper-pusher

Slava pycopiз

pootin going to negotiations in Turkye

All ziggers are cowards just like their tsar

Doubt it

lmao some of you niggers have way too much free time and autism

What's up with the brush?

30 years

I think the grandpa mixed up "underwater" with "how long reactor lasts".

The only reason it has to come up is for food

It doesn't need water because they have, you know, they have their system of water, which is they can stay forever.

Yes, food runs out first. Air is regenerated and drinking water is made by desalinizing sea water.
201 days without surfacing was the latest record, I think.

Strongman Putin needs an another world leader to start peace talks for a war he started.

i know the type of guy zelensky is. he's not a unicorn, these sorts of people like him exist in all layers of society.

usually the hallmark you get with his type is 1) lots of bullshit 2) lots of completely unneccsarry and nowhere leading overhead 3) zero tangible results.
these kinda guys "don't fuck" and get nothing done aside wasting everyone's time.

cope

is this the new cope? pretty clear it's putin fuckin around with everyone's time.

Maybe he has something more important to do than meeting that faggot comedian, like watching TV or reading a book

Whats happening in Pokrovsk?????

It's used anally

these kinda guys "don't fuck" and get nothing done

They fuck with the meat sandwich, no one but one is eating it. Why do hungry, maybe they need hole in spoon )) then the hiv is contracted )))))))))

kek

Anew then... In the Name of Saturn-Eloah,
Those who bless Ukraine are blessed,
As those who curse Ukraine are cursed. Selah.

Amen, so mote it be.

fucking hell, russniggers.

10/10

reads like russian sci-fi

The missile is too round, it needs to be pointy!

I understand he is amusing but this is a living satire at this point. MAGAfags explain yourselfs

Grim /kino/, thank (You).

Νο bomers?

Czech Republic is the weakest of all central European militaries. No use explaining military matters to you.

kino

at the end it was supposed to be a nafo dog wasn't it?

1pbtid

like clockwork

kek, you guys need to update your pic. Zelensky cucked out of attacking the moscew parade. Yall niggas will never recover.

Is the less someone like Putin deserves.

moscew parade

gloves off
eybrow raised
ass in the ass

It was the spirit of Laika

Based Zelenskyy

Stalling, which was their intent all along.

lol

more meat for the meat cubez.

holy fuck someone actually wrote that? kek

Replacing the chief lackey again?

Has someone posted the latest Strelkovposting?

monke is 72, zelensky is 47. Zelensky would win lol. If Mike Tyson, at his 58 years old, technically "lost" against that other fag that was younger than him, what makes you think monke has a chance?

Repost it, please.

Pinya was the chief dickwasher at KGB. He was the vodka boy.

IGOR STRELKOV ON THE CURRENT OPERATIONAL SITUATION AT THE FRONT

(regarding the letter-summary from 05/03/2025)

Thank you for the substantive (as always!) summary and, especially, for the informative appendices. As always, I fully agree with your conclusions (which does not please either you or me, not even once - but that's a given).
As you already know, the Ukrops [derogatory term for Ukrainians] have launched a new tactical offensive on the borders of the Kursk region - in the direction of Tyotkino. It doesn't matter whether the Ukrops achieve serious success or not - they are consistently "extending the arc of tension" wider and wider (until they bring it to the border with the Republic of Belarus), - and stretching our combat formations (and scarce reserves) to protect the "old regions."
In the absence of large strategic reserves, the loss of initiative and (most importantly) Moscow's stubborn unwillingness to "face reality" and understand that there will be no "compromise peace" "at all" - such an enemy strategy gives them serious advantages in the spring-summer campaign that has begun.
Having "stretched" our forces and forced us to use available reserves, - the enemy will deliver the main blows in the most important strategic directions for themselves - in the Crimean/Kherson and, possibly, in the Donetsk directions (where our units are severely exhausted by many months of offensive battles, have suffered large and irreplaceable losses and have broken away from well-established defensive lines).
Soon, as they say, "we will see everything." In the meantime, we are observing how we are being "nightmared" by all types of missiles and UAVs/USVs [Unmanned Surface Vehicles], which the Ukrops are already using without any fear against the "old territories" on an ever-increasing scale.

With respect,
I.V. Girkin
07/05/2025

/fragment of a letter to comrade Frol Vladimirov/

Pretty sure it’s Patron

based patron will feed on a thousand ziggers

IGOR STRELKOV ON THE CURRENT OPERATIONAL SITUATION AT THE FRONT

Thank (You).

"old territories"

That means r*ssia proper, right?
Not the occupied Ukrainian lands

It is funny that he still does what he was locked up for,.. not agreeing with monke

that's what I gathered too since he says they aren't worried about striking them anymore

Total Zigger Bottling

Andrii Yermak, head of Ukrainian Presidential Office: "I can only tell you what I heard from President Trump once. He said, 'If Putin refuses to make a peace agreement, I will give Ukraine more than it can imagine.' I like this sentence very much."

He shared that with Le Monde in response to the question on whether Ukraine expects to receive or buy more weapons from the United States.

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That means r*ssia proper, right?

yep

British defence intelligence has released satellite photos of the aftermath of ammunition explosions at the 51st GRAU munitions arsenal in the Russian Vladimir region on April 22.

According to the UK Defence Ministry, they indicate that "a significant portion of the depot, more than 1 sq km, was damaged by the detonations," suggesting massive losses at a key strategic depot supplying Russia's war in Ukraine.

It also commented on the Russian defense ministry's statement that blamed the explosions on security breaches, suggesting that the loss of ammunition could have been caused by "poor weapons handling procedures alongside negligent storage of munitions."

"The 51st GRAU explosions likely resulted in the largest loss of Russian munitions caused by Russia's own actions in the current conflict so far," British defence intelligence concluded.
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He said, 'If Putin refuses to make a peace agreement, I will give Ukraine more than it can imagine

He anyone told him that Trump is a notorious liar?

The Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe endorsed the establishment of a special tribunal for the crime of Russian aggression against Ukraine.

At the annual meeting, ministers tasked Secretary General Alain Berset with leading the process to set up a special tribunal within the Council of Europe. The declaration on the creation of the tribunal was signed last week by European ministers in Lviv.
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may we see the source?

Some Russian media report that Lavrov will not represent Russia at talks in Istanbul.

Others claimed he would. The Russians create a lot of intrigue and show.
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with a bit of luck senile don will figure out that monke doesn't want to make a deal, preferably this decade, then we can figure out if he'll keep his word or not

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A relatively new so-called "biker tactic" has emerged among Russian forward units.

This is partly because the Russians' stocks of heavy military equipment have been partially depleted, and they have much less capacity to form a column of tanks or armored combat vehicles than they did last year or at the beginning of the full-scale invasion.

But this is also due to the Russians' search for new tactical methods of organizing "meat assaults."

◾ The Russians are actively equipping their assault (forward) units with light vehicles and motorcycles, trying to strengthen their ability to quickly and with minimal losses overcome the so-called "kill zone" (the area between the positions of their and Ukrainian troops, where the bulk of the firepower of the advanced units of the AFU, including FPV drones, as well as the fire of the bulk of their artillery and mortars, is concentrated).

◾ According to the Russian command, with the massive use of individual motorized means by assault infantry, the number of targets that Ukrainian firepower needs to hit increases many times over.

◾ Also, the Russian leadership believes that high-speed and maneuverable motorized means dramatically increase the chances of survival of an attacking/assaulting unit by significantly reducing the time spent by its personnel in the "kill zone."

part 1

A relatively new so-called "biker tactic" has emerged among Russian forward units.

◾ The Russian command believes that in this way, the Ukrainian defending unit simply "will not have time to strike" each such fast and agile "biker," especially when they sometimes become more or less numerous.

◾ Based on this, Russian units involved in attack/assault operations are equipped with motorcycles, ATVs, and buggies.

The AFU is also effectively adapting to these Russian tactics, increasing statistics of killed and wounded Russians.

This video was filmed near Toretsk.

Russian soldiers attached flags to the motorcycles in honor of May 9 and launched an assault. The motorcycle rally ended in a complete defeat.

The assault was repelled by the joint efforts of the 12th Azov Special Operations Brigade as part of the 1st Azov Corps of the National Guard of Ukraine and the 49th Carpathian Sich Separate Assault Battalion.

part 2

They’re still occupied Ukrainian lands

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French intelligence has released data on Russia's large-scale espionage and sabotage activities against France. A 16-page report titled "Russian Threats and Actions Against France" refers to cyberattacks, espionage, sabotage and attempts to influence political processes.

Russia is already waging a hybrid war against Europe, against NATO. It is probing and testing, looking for weaknesses and averted eyes. Russia is fully prepared to go further.

▪ French intelligence claims that Russia is helping Iran develop missiles that could potentially reach France.

▪ Russian spies have targeted scientific institutions dealing with defense technologies, including lasers. French engineers inform about the theft of equipment by Russians during their trips abroad.

▪ Russian officers under diplomatic cover are establishing contacts to gather political information and influence French-European debates.

▪ In 2023-2024, Russia hacked several accounts of the French Ministry of Defense. Also, a scheme to illegally supply semiconductors from France to the Russian army was exposed.

▪ In April 2024, hackers attacked the Coulandon hydroelectric power plant. The attack was linked to Russian intelligence services.

part 1

'continue' peace talks in istanbul

"okay I'll be expecting my r*ssian counterpart

i-i want security guarantees for my person

jewtin is scared of zlonsky lmao

French intelligence has released data on Russia's large-scale espionage and sabotage activities against France.

▪ In July 2024, a Russian was accused of preparing a terrorist attack during the opening of the Olympic Games in Paris.

▪ In 2023, hackers attacked KNDS France (formerly Nexter), a company that produces CAESAR artillery systems. Official correspondence on the supply of this equipment to Ukraine was stolen.

▪ On February 24, 2022, an hour before the invasion of Ukraine, Russia disabled about 40,000 Viasat modems, causing disruptions to emergency services in France.

▪ According to French intelligence, Russian services distorted GPS coordinates in an attempt to disorient French aircraft.

▪ Russia is massively spreading fake news, videos, and statements, including using artificial intelligence, to discredit France in the international arena.

▪ After strikes on Ukraine with the Oreshnik missiles, French intelligence believes that the risk of Russia using nuclear weapons is real.

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part 2

Heh, good point.

French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot said devastating sanctions are needed that could "suffocate the Russian economy once and for all."

"Today, we are adopting the 17th sanctions package. <...> But we need to go further because these massive sanctions have not yet dissuaded Vladimir Putin from continuing his war of aggression against Ukraine. And as the President of the Republic has said, we need to be prepared to brandish devastating sanctions which could suffocate the Russian economy once and for all," @jnbarrot said.
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It is reported that the Estonian military made an attempt to arrest a JAGUAR tanker of Russia's shadow fleet that was on its way to a Russian port under the flag of Gabon.

A Russian Su-35 flew into the Estonian airspace to help the tanker out. Estonia accused Russia of violating its airspace and handed a note of protest to the Russian ambassador.
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The French are finally being serious, huh

European Parliament launched an investigation into the May 9 trip to Moscow by a group of MEPs, one of them, Fidias Panayiotou, said.

"I must tell you that our visit to Moscow with other MEPs did not please the European Parliament at all, and it has already launched an investigation against us," Panayiotou said in a video posted on his Instagram page.

The Cypriot MEP referred to Russians as "brothers" and pointed to the common religion and moral values they share with the Greeks. He also said the EU is just "sending weapons and money to Ukraine to fight the Russians" for three years, which "hasn't done us any good."

Panayiotou was one of the three MEPs who voted against a European Parliament resolution calling for the return of 20,000 Ukrainian children abducted by Russia.
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Russia will announce its representative for the talks in Istanbul this evening, Russian MP Slutsky said.

He added that Russia might agree to discuss the "all-for-all" prisoner exchange proposed by President Zelenskyy, but stressed that Russia intended to try some captured Ukrainian Defenders and would not release them.
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I was looking for some light-hearted content to post tonight - all the recent news are tiresome and exhausting.

Here in Ukraine, we're like these Ukrainian cats - always on alert but appearing calm (sound on if you can).
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Putin approved the Russian delegation for talks with Ukraine, according to Russian media:

1. Vladimir Medinskiy - Putin's aide, appointed head of the delegation.
2. Mikhail Galuzin - deputy foreign minister of Russia.
3. Igor Kostyukov - chief of the main department of the General Staff of the Russian armed forces.
4. Aleksandr Fomin - deputy defense minister of Russia.

Upd. There are also four "experts" who will take part in the negotiations, as well.

Medinskiy represented Russia during 2022 Istanbul negotiations when Russia demanded Ukrainian capitulation, drastic reduction of Ukrainian Armed Forces and other conditions unacceptable to Ukraine.
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"While you buy food for your children in the morning and come home, we go somewhere in the woods, pick up our killed brothers, and go out again. That's how 'easy' we make that money."

A Russian soldier appealed to other Russians who think that there's 'easy money' in Ukraine. He does not share their point of view and sadly states that "it's not what you think it is."

He also rebuked the relatives of Chechen officials like Kadyrov who sit at home posting their luxurious lives on social media while people like him earn money as a cannon fodder in Ukraine.
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cool pic

The Russian delegation has arrived in Istanbul, Russian media report.
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President Zelenskyy will meet with President Erdoğan in Ankara at 1pm and only then decide on talks with Russia, AFP news agency reports citing sources.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian foreign minister Andrii Sybiha has already met with the foreign ministers of France, Germany and Poland.

"We coordinated our next steps, continued cooperation with the United States and efforts to ensure long-term peace and security in Ukraine and across Europe. Emphasized the need to increase pressure on Moscow to enforce peace – and that this must happen alongside the strengthening of Ukraine," Andrii Sybiha said.

Apparently, the meeting took place in Antalya, where NATO foreign ministers are holding an informal meeting on May 14-15.
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President Trump on talks in Türkiye:

"I actually said, why would he [Putin] go if I'm not going? But we have people there. Marco, as you know, is doing a fantastic job. Marco is there, Secretary of State. But I didn't think it was possible for Putin to go if I'm not there."

President Trump also added that he would go to Türkiye on Friday if appropriate for Ukraine-Russia talks – Clash Report.
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Ziggers are gloating about muh Su-35 scaring away the Estonians. I guess the Ukrainians really need to down a few more Sucker jets.

Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine has unveiled the latest Magura strike maritime drones capable of destroying enemy ships and aircraft.

The series includes:

▪ Magura V5, the killer of Russian Black Sea Fleet ships;
▪ Magura V6P multifunctional platform;
▪ Magura V7 missile-carrying drone, which for the first time in history destroyed an enemy combat aircraft;
▪ Magura V7 equipped with a combat machine gun module.

The intelligence service said that Magura maritime drones succeeded in changing the situation in the Black Sea in Ukraine's favor.

For two years of combat use of various modifications of Magura drones, 17 sea and air targets were hit, 15 of which were completely destroyed.

The damage caused to the enemy is estimated at more than half a billion dollars.
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what comes next though

Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine has unveiled the latest Magura strike maritime drones capable of destroying enemy ships and aircraft.

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The talks in Istanbul have been postponed at the initiative of the Turkish side to the afternoon, – Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova.
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President Zelenskyy arrived in Türkiye. He said that the level of the Russian delegation is "sham".

Meanwhile, Peskov said that Putin would not take part in the talks with Ukraine.
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Putin suggested holding direct negotiations in Turkey on May 15.

President Zelenskyy with his team arrived in Turkey.

Putin is absent. Instead, he sent a non-representative delegation with no decision-making mandate.

Does Putin want to achieve peace and stop the war? The answer is obvious - no.
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NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte:

"We repeat that Russia is the long term threat. We repeat that China is rapidly building up its armed forces, which is of course a big concern. They will have 1000 nuclear warheads by the end of the decade. And we repeat that terrorism is also one of the areas NATO is focusing on because terrorism is a core task for NATO to fight terrorism."
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◾President Trump:
"Look, nothing's going to happen until Putin and I get together, okay? And obviously, he wasn't going to go. He was going to go, but he thought I was going to go. He wasn't going if I wasn't there. And I don't believe anything's going to happen, whether you like it or not, until he and I get together. But we're going to have to get this solved because too many people are dying."

◾Journalist: "Mr. President, are you disappointed in the level of the delegation that the Russians sent to Turkey?"

◾President Trump: "I'm not disappointed in anything. Why would I be disappointed? We just took in four trillion dollars and he says, "Are you disappointed about a delegation?" I know nothing about a delegation. I haven't even checked.
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President Trump arrived in the UAE, where he was given an unusual reception.
I wonder what it means.

Followers kindly told me that this is a yowlah - it is considered a victory dance, and it used to be performed after a victory in a tribal war or after returning from a successful pearl diving.

Thanks!
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Out of respect for Presidents Trump and Erdoğan, wanting to try to achieve the first steps towards de-escalation, Ukraine sends a delegation to Istanbul for negotiations with Russia. It will be led by Defense Minister Umerov - President Zelenskyy.

We will definitely hold a meeting with the Russian side. We hope it is not an outward show on their part, the President added.
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Honest opinion on this weak liar? (i know quite a suggestive question) I find him to be as managerial is i expected him to be.

Mark Rutte

"Neither Berlin, Paris, Brussels, and especially London want any peace in Ukraine at all," Lavrov said.

Are they the ones who attacked Ukraine? Are they the ones who are killing Ukrainians? Are they the ones who are disrupting peace talks?
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he's worried about his job

President Erdoğan:

"Türkiye attaches importance to keeping dialogue channels open between Ukraine and Russia for the rapid establishment of peace and that, as the host, it would be happy to host the leaders of the two countries when they are ready." - The Republic of Türkiye Directorate of Communications.
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why is this allowed? no one wants to read your retarded twatter posts fat fuck.

he's worried about his job

Yeah i think so as well

Head of the Russian delegation Vladimir Medinsky:

"We see these talks as a continuation of the peace process in Istanbul, which was unfortunately interrupted by the Ukrainian side three years ago. The task of direct negotiations with the Ukrainian side is to reach a long-term peace sooner or later by eliminating the basic root causes of the conflict."

Three years ago, Russia demanded that Ukraine disarm. It thinks it can continue those "negotiations".
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Given that the "basic root cause of the conflict" is Putin, the statement sounds constructive.
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"Your president is afraid to arrive," a journalist screamed in Russian to Medinskiy in Istanbul.
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German Chancellor Friedrich Merz @_FriedrichMerz

"...Russia has broken all the rules that we have established for our coexistence in Europe since the end of the Second World War, and above all, since overcoming the division of Europe.

The Russian war of aggression has been raging in Ukraine for more than three years now. Russian troops are killing and murdering women and children, civilians, and soldiers daily. This war has claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of victims, including on the Russian side.

Ladies and gentlemen, this war and its outcome will not only decide the fate of Ukraine. The outcome of this war will determine whether law and order will continue to prevail in Europe and the world in the future or whether tyranny, military force, and the right of the strongest will prevail."
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I will bake one (1) bread.

I will bake one (1) bread.

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio:

Putin must be directly involved into the negotiations with Ukraine.

"The level of team that was sent by the Russian side is certainly not indicative of one that's going to lead to a major breakthrough. I hope I'm 100% wrong.

I hope tomorrow the news says they've agreed to a ceasefire, they've agreed to enter serious negotiations. But I'm just giving you my assessment, honestly. I don't think it's going to lead to that, just because of the structure and how this is all played out."
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Putin will never again leave russia. He is so afraid of a coup now.

Let me bake early, heh

>Panayiotou was one of the three MEPs who voted against a European Parliament resolution calling for the return of 20,000 Ukrainian children abducted by Russia.

What a disgusting subhuman

change the day to 1177

NEW

bump

Done, thanks for the advice :))

>Coup

Russian orcs either love this nigga or too fucking scared of him so much so, that I have doubts of that ever happening. Remember Russians have the slave mentality and forever be eternal plebs and rubes. The richest among them have toilets in their kitchens and they are happy with this because it isn't western.
You can't expect retarded mongoloids with this concept life to do a damn thing. It will require mass starvation in st pidorsburg or Moscow for this to even be a thought.

This doesn't even look like Putin. When was the last time we saw the real Putin and not a body double?