If you are wise, you will figure this truth out as you grow up. Beyond Christianity there is only nihilism. Every other meta-narrative in western culture ultimately collapses in on itself and you are left with nihilism. If you want to believe that you were born for a purpose and that your actions have moral significance, then you must become a Christian. This is the only way forward. Faith is not so much blind obedience to dogma, but a pre-condition for human life with dignity and happiness to be possible. Think it through. Study intellectual history. I have. And I am merely telling you what I have discovered. If you wish to take on this challenge, then begin by reading Coplestone's 11 volume history of philosophy. But if you want the shorter version, then read Seraphim Rose's book, "Nihilism: the Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age".
There is no viable to alternative to Christianity
Ok jew worshiper
Not worshipping a Jew
if you don’t become Christian you will go to hell
Christfags 300AD~1945AD
if you don’t become Christian y-you will submit to Nihilism
Nice threat
COPE-lston
What are the top 3 moral contributions from christianity and why do they need to be encased in christianity to function?
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There are only 2.
“TEACHER, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” asked one of the Pharisees. Jesus said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments THE WHOLE LAW HANGS, and the Prophets.”—Matt. 22:34-40.
They need to be encased in Christianity because that's the origin of those principles. They exist nowhere else.
Jehovah's Witness here, AMA
What are the top 3 moral contributions from christianity and why do they need to be encased in christianity to function?
philo-semitism
Without Christianity there is literally no reason to have any positive feelings towards Jews.
Male genital mutilation
Without Christianity this Jewish tradition would not be accepted or practiced.
Pacifism, open borders, anti-racism, and disdain for nature
Without Jesus' teachings these values would never have seen widespread acceptance in the west.
Christianity IS nihilism
How many watchtowers can you stick up your asshole while you teach about the dangers of racism?
I am fine with the Nihilism thank you, we dont really need alternatives or Christianity at all.
Nothing matters in this mortal life since as long as I believe in rabbi jeshua I will go to the magical kingdom in the clouds
Transhumanism offers hope for immortality and tangible improvements. It also offers an incentive for people to care about the long term health of the society as their longevity depends on the well being of society. The philosophy also doesn't require me to believe in silly shit like talking snakes and Noah's ark. Bring on the cybernetic implants and gene mods!
Sorry, but we're all moving on. And the fact of the matter is that no one actually believes in Christianity anyway.
Noo I truly believe that Jesus Christ was God incar-
No, you don't. You play pretend. Some of you do it as an outgrowth of politics, but most of you just do it because you want an identity to make you interesting as a person. But no one actually, genuinely believes in Christianity and the Bible.
inb4 noooo fucking kike demoralizing
Even among Anon Babbles favourite sect, Roman Catholicism, nearly 70% of members don't believe in the real presence in Eucharist. Which is something Christians historically believed.
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Here's the bright side though. The world isn't actually ending because Christianity ends. It existed before Christianity and it will exist after. What matters is whether or not European peoples will chain themselves to the ship's mast and go down with it, or jump over board and swim for their lives. Personally I'll take my chances in the ocean and the spiritual wilderness.
SHUTDOWN HOMO
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if you are wise you will ditch all these useless religions and instead use your brain to figure out how to improve your life.
The whole point of God letting the world fall apart was to prove man and Satan cannot govern themselves. Only God can govern. The idea was to let you non-believers TRY to fix all of life's problems and fail. Thus, proving man cannot govern himself into utopia.
After the matter is fully settled is when Armageddon will start. 99.9% of all disobedient mankind will be executed. Then, the original paradise Adam and Eve forsook will be reestablished. Pic related, that is going to be accomplished very soon. Depending on how old you are within your lifetime. We are in the Last Days, you are also witnessing the end of an Empire.
Christianity is not meant to save the world. It is meant to end it. The idea is that white people are supposed to abandon the world(all society) because it's scheduled for execution and if they want to save themselves then they need to start helping Jesus gather spiritual lumber. Then let the rest of the world drown.
The whole point of Jehovah allowing the world to fall apart was to prove mankind cannot govern itself into paradise and prosperity. After the matter is settled than God will take full control of the Earth and bring all people back to the paradise earth Adam and Eve forsook.
Jesus wasn't even a real person, dummy
pic realted
okay, so some schizophrenic kike bullshit
oh LAWD please SAVE MY SOUL
cringe
the only reason any of you faggots believe in god is because you're terrified. you need some shining angel to come save you from the deep dark abyss.
just grow the fuck up. you don't need magical stories to live a good life. just don't be a cunt.
I told you, goyim, you're NOTHING without me! This world I made is NOTHING without my constant supervision! Now say you love me or BURN!
pass, I like my gods less semitic
You are correct. Have a blessed evening
they can't grow up
they are genetically destroyed
they can only devolve from here
and they will spite you for being human
they will authorize the government to kill you
better collapse it all well before then
look to Tarrant and those like him
Good thread, OP, and what you say here is true. Never mind the rancor of some of the comments. One today speaks mostly to madmen, but speak we must since not everyone is sick.
Take your desert jewish worshipping religion and fuck off from white countries.
I really wish some new religion would emerge. Some kind of white sharia. Islam without all the gay shit like no dogs, no alcohol and no music. Also in english (or whatever language) because islam is legally required to be done in arabic for some retarded reason.
I don't give a FUCK about the jewish desert saga. Explain to me why I should follow made up rules based on fiction from a place I've never been to and will never go?
I'm an atheist but it is horribly depressing. I wish I believed.
we wuz da original baby circumcisors n shiet
Any religion does that.
I made up my own, with my own "commandments" (principles), explanations for existence/life, and what sort of "afterlife" awaits.
Just go with the one that makes you happy and gives you the strength to not an hero.
Cowing people into your religion with threats of torment has always seemed profoundly wrong, imo.
Then don't just sit there being a keyboard warrior. Go do something about it. Go overthrow all the Jews, Luciferians, Secret Societies, Intelligence Agencies, CEOs and their goyim slaves. The point of God allowing injustice and suffering was to give ridiculing humans like you the opportunity to put your money where your mouth is. Go solve the problem yourself.
Prove you don't need no God to tell you what to do. Prove mankind can bring itself into the Star Trek utopia without divine intervention.
post visage edomite khazar fake jew
Beyond Christianity there is only nihilism
For you maybe.
Cowing people into your religion with threats of torment has always seemed profoundly wrong, imo
Correct. Good thing the Bible doesn't teach that.
Not worshiping a jew
Die mad about it
The bread and wine is like the gate program for witnesses
Prove you don't need no God to tell you what to do
I do every day
Prove mankind can bring itself into the Star Trek utopia without divine intervention.
Already happening essentially through Moore's Law
You assume that because I am not an abrahamic I am an atheist? Creator is above the dogma and doctrine of man.
Spoken like a true christcuck who has read nothing, not even the bible. If you did, you could then compare and see that Neo-Platonism mogs anything Christianity ever plagiarized from it but without any of the faggotry of being a sinner who must beg a rabbi for forgiveness. Return to the source. Become like God. Know the yourself and know the One. Leave the Semitic desert death cult to rot.
Good thing the Bible doesn't teach that.
It does. It doesn't matter what brand of Christianity you are, the end message is an ultimatum. Bend the knee to your subjective interpretations or perish
... wat?
I'm not saying "follow judiasm" you tard, I'm saying "figure it out yourself and don't feel the need to follow everyone else"
But if Christianity is what make you happy, power to you, fren. This world needs more good.
I've seen a few passages suggesting some manner of harm, but I'm no biblical scholar, so I'll defer to you.
To be clear, I have nothing against Christianity, and I think that 80%+ of people CANNOT function without religion-- I'm simply not a good fit for Christianity, hence the "custom religion" thing
if you are wiser, at some point you'll figured out nihilism in Europe is a direct consequence of your religion destroying every single way towards spirituality that doesn't pass through selling your soul to jewish tikkun olam, a people spiritually cut from anything organic and that they can call theirs
Praise be Aesthetics, the one true faith.
Here is a poem against universalism, and by extension Christianity, and in French, because English is a peasant tongue, far too common for particularism.
L’esthétique est la vérité.
Il y a du beau et du laid.
Tu veux ce que tu aimes et tu aimes parce que tu es.
Vous voulez de petits buissons aussi grands que les grands arbres?
Mais ils n’ont pas besoin du même soleil et brûleront, et c’est la vie qui le veut ainsi.
Arrêtez de prêcher la mort.
Vous dites que les oiseaux doivent arrêter de voler en V au nom de l’égalité?
Eh bien, ils n’arriveront jamais à destination, s’épuiseront et mourront.
L’universalisme est un ciel sans horizons.
Pourquoi mentir? Pourquoi haïr?
Pourquoi aimez-vous tant voir les choses pourrir?
i like how y'all only ever have lies and gay shit but never proof or a sound argument why someone shouldn't follow Christ
keep it up retard
there is no viable alternative to deluding yourself that zombie rabbi yeshua bin yahweh al nazreet is going to come back and save 144,000 male virgin kikes and take them to a solid gold and gemstone encrusted reproduction of jerusalem as per revelations, and that somehow you are going to be included in that number because you are an honourary kike for recognising some sandnigger david blaine as your overlord
kill yourself you pathetic, traitorous piece of shit
if you are white, you deserve death
Whats wrong with nihilism. Why do you value life or happiness, why cant you accept lack of meaning/purpose. If i killed myself tomorrow it wouldnt be wrong or unfortunate nor would it have any significance whatsoever, exactly the same would be true if i died of old age in a million years. As long as one is destined to die eventually, their life is bound to be utterly meaningless since their ego will die with their body, so in practice it really doesnt matter who they were in life, they couldve been everyone, no one, any specific human really, in the end it really doesnt change anything from a practical standpoint. If one is destined to die anyway it effectively means theyre already dead. Doesn't mean you can't function like that, theres nothing wrong with doing pointless things like waking up every day.
It does.
Show me
It doesn't matter what brand of Christianity you
Yes it does
1 Corinthians 1:10 - 10 Now I exhort YOU, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YOU should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among YOU, but that YOU may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought
1 Peter 3:8 - 8 Finally, all of YOU be like-minded, showing fellow feeling, having brotherly affection, tenderly compassionate, humble in mind,
2 Corinthians 13:11 - 11 Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with YOU.
Ephesians 4:2-6 - 2 with complete lowliness of mind and mildness, with long-suffering, putting up with one another in love, 3 earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. 4 One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope to which YOU were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all.
Philippians 2:1,2 - If, then, there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any sharing of spirit, if any tender affections and compassions, 2 make my joy full in that YOU are of the same mind and have the same love, being joined together in soul, holding the one thought in mind,
Romans 16:17 - Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them
The Bible doesn't endorse multiple "brands," sects, "paths in life." Only one way or the wrong way.
b b but i'm so special, there has to be a special magical reason for meeee!!!
christfags are extreme narcissists, don't expect them to understand any of this
Because that is ugly. Praise be beauty.
Buddhism and Stoicism.
Beyond Christianity there is only nihilism.
Don't leave out delusional faggotry.
Plenty of that going around too.
Show me
I'm the various verses all throughout that talk about denying God. The Bible emphasizes that denying God or his Son, Jesus Christ, leads to eternal separation from Him, often described as hell or eternal death
Yes it does
To you it does but you all have the same end message. Bend the knee or perish.
The Bible doesn't endorse multiple "brands," sects
Including yours
I simply don't find it rewarding, and I have trouble with the "faith" required of me.
I don't wanna go into the whole "burden of proof" thing, but if you want to get people to believe as you do, you'll have to convince them.
Personally, I take a more humanistic perspective-- even without the plans of a deity, i want people to suffer less, find purpose and happiness, and live up to what our species is capable of.
There's no denying we're deeply flawed creatures, but we CAN become less flawed, more healthy, more happy, all as Human society advances.
Now, will one day Humans cease to exist? Almost certainly. But there were still countless people before that happened, and I'd personally wish that they live good, fulfilling lives.
Hell doesnt' even mean what you think it means. It doesn't have the connotation of evil, demons, punishment, fire, etc. The word "hell" is not Biblical. Its old English but goes back to old Germanic/Dutch HEL. It means "cover." It's where we get the words Cellar, Hall, Hull of a ship, Conceal, and Helmet. The connotation is to cover something completely up. The most accurate use of HEL is Germanic and Nordic where people were buried or covered over with dirt. Thus, they went to HEL or the hidden place covered over place of the dead. Or the HALL of The Dead. This perfectly coincides with the Bible's Sheol and Greek Hades. Sheol and Hades are AMMORAL. Neither good nor evil go there. So it means that's where the dead go in general.
Pagans invented it hell, The Catholic Church adopted it. In the OT wherever you see "hell" the original word is She'ol. She'ol is just the common grave of mankind. In the NT, wherever you see the word "hell" the original word is Hades. It is also just the grave of mankind.
So there are two kinds of hells in the Bible.
One is temporary
hades
She'ol
One is permanent
Gehenna
Lake of Fire
When Jesus is quoted as saying "hell" it is actually Gehenna. Gehenna means "Valley of Hinnom." It was a garbage dumb that was lit on permanent fire with sulfur. They threw trash in it. When they executed criminals they threw there bodies in it as well. If the bodies slipped out the worms would get it. Thus, Gehenna represents total annihilation with no escape and no memory.
Those in Hades/She'ol are waiting to be resurrected and it's for everyone who has died. Those in Gehenna/Lake of Fire are destroyed permanently. No resurrection for them. THIS is for bad people. Because of the over-generalized translation of "hell" everywhere nobody can understand the truth about death and resurrection
The Bible teaches that the dead are unconscious and go back to oblivion, or non-existence.
Isaiah 38:18,19 - 18 For it is not She´ol that can laud you; death itself cannot praise you. Those going down into the pit cannot look hopefully to your trueness. The living, the living, he is the one that can laud you, Just as I can this day.
Psalms 6:5 - For in death there is no mention of you; In Sheol who will laud you?
Psalms 88:10 - For those who are dead will you do a marvel? Or will those impotent in death themselves arise, Will they laud you? Selah.
Psalms 146:4 - His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish.
Psalm 88:12 - Will a marvel by you be known in the darkness itself, Or your righteousness in the land of oblivion?
Psalms 115:17 - 17 The dead themselves do not praise Jah, Nor do any going down into silence.
(Ecclesiastes 3:18-20) I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.
Ecclesiastes 9:5,6 - 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun.
There is no hell in the Bible. Only going back to the grave. This is God's opinion on burning people alive.
Jeremiah 19:5 - And they built the high places of the Baal in order to burn their sons in the fire as whole burnt offerings to the Baal, something that I had not commanded or spoken of, and that had not come up into my heart.”’
Jeremiah 32:35 - Furthermore, they built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to make their sons and their daughters pass through [the fire] to Molech, a thing that I did not command them, neither did it come up into my heart to do this detestable thing, for the purpose of making Judah sin.’
Jeremiah 7:31 - And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.’
God admitted three times up above he would never command anyone to do that nor would he ever think of doing that himself. If God created hell that would make God a huge hypocrite because he is doing it on a grander scale. However, God doesn't burn people alive in any way. He lets them die and cease to exist. So if you refuse to submit to God than you will go to oblivion, not hell
delusional faggotry
as a follower of the new testament, you wholeheartedly believe that locusts with human faces, lions teeth, scorpions tails, golden crowns and breastplates, will attack everyone who doesn't believe in muh yeshua for 5 months.
delusional
as a believer in the new testament, you are certain that a new jerusalem will fall from the sky, made of pure solid gold and rubies, sapphires and various other gemstones, to house 144,000 jews divided in to 12,000 of each tribe of israel, all of which are men who forego sex and women and marriage in order to follow yeshua.
delusional
as someone who believes in muh christ, you genuinely think that yahweh, whose first covenant with man was 'mutilate your babies dick at 8 days and i won't kill you' decided to make a second covenant by coming down as his own baby, getting his own dick mutilated by his step dad, shooting up a star above his own crib so that he could get some expensive perfumes and gold brought over, and then grew up to die by sweaty swarthy italians, nap in a cave for 72 earth hours and then rise back up to magical eternal life - and this is a sacrifice that demands your eternal worship.
delusional
Hell doesnt' even mean what you think it means.
It's subjective and the bible isn't even clear on it .
The Bible teaches that the dead are unconscious and go back to oblivion, or non-existence.
The statement that the Bible teaches the dead are unconscious and return to oblivion is a simplified view. While some scriptures like Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 suggest the dead are unconscious, other passages, like Daniel 12:2, describe a resurrection and a future judgment. Additionally, the New Testament describes the intermediate state as a place of rest or paradise for believers
There is no hell in the Bible
That's why it's subjective. That's why I never used the word hell.
All evil deeds are done by lunatics who think they are working for some greater cause. Throw every Templar in a meat grinder.
Tell me faggot, what is the purpose of the Christianity?
To bore people with the gospel that they have heard 209 times already?
To play shitty music badly?
To pas laws that infringe on peoples freedoms and personal space because you're mad that you can't have sex?
Fuck off and die so can see your space Jew doesn't exist already.
(John 5:28, 29) Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
(Acts 24:15) and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
(John 5:29) and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
The Bible teaches that after the end of the world there will bet two resurrections: One of the righteous and one of unrighteous. One of faithful and one who committed vile things to be judged in the next system.
The Bible does acknowledge individuals around the world who never had a chance to know God and Christ. That's where the second resurrection comes in up above. The unrighteous resurrection will be for bad people who acted out of ignorance, mental illness, isolation, social and political engineering, etc. This includes people from times and eras where God did not reveal himself to them. They will be brought back to life in the next system of Earth where no evil and no devil exist anymore. THEY will be judged under that system. If they can change they can stay, if they refuse they go back to eternal oblivion(SECOND DEATH.)
Answered Go fix the world
Yeah doesn't refute anything I've said
no, it's to brainwash kids by spinning demented, evil kike stories in to fun ones and leaving out the worst parts until you're fully invested. hey kids, look at all the animals yahweh saved on the boat!
(ps this was while he was murdering every other living human and animal on the planet through horrific drowning because he was bored of them)
The human condition entails lack of purpose though theres nothing wrong with having principles/pursuing a purpose as long as it's not worshipping egalitarian kike folk stories or fake prophets/gods
The dead don't go to some "afterlife." They don't go to reincarnation. They don't go to purgatory. They don't go to heaven, they don't go to hell. The death of a human is no more special than an animal or plant. They go into nothingness.
The only hope for humanity is to be brought back to life on earth. There is nowhere else a human can go. Therefore, the resurrection is for humans to be brought back to life on earth again. That's the only hope for humanity.
Your god fucked a baby into a whore who practiced witchcraft and then fled to Gaul with her and faked his own death. Why would I worship that?
Death to all catholocism! We'll eat you vatican rats this century! HAIL SCIENCE!
believing in a god made up to compete with greco-roman gods (real) is the ONLY way
ok bro
When you put it like that, it's too insane to beliove anyone actually takes that as the truth!
No wonder jews push slave religions, they fucking work!
Source?
The dead don't go to some "afterlife." They don't go to reincarnation.
Well technically that's also an afterlife
They go into nothingness.
Sorry mean to say that is still an afterlife and sounds way more peaceful than a lake of fire
It's a prophetic book littered in signs and symbols, doofus.
Prophecy, in the Old and the New Testamnet, has always been history foretold, and history is prophecy in the making.
Christians are able to discern with the Holy Spirit that God gives us.
That's how people who are outside of the temple (the temple wich is Christians - 1Corinthians 3:16-17) are left in the dark while Christians understand what is going on in history, in past, present, and future.
When the meme flag is off btw
It's a prophetic book littered in signs and symbols
bullshit. an angel with a golden measuring stick gives the exact measurements of the golden walls of new jerusalem. the exact number of jews down to each tribe is provided to the last digit. read it.
I agree with most of that, but in your view, what's the issue with "worshiping" a fake god?
Of course, if you're using that "god" to justify terrible shit, then sure it's wrong, but beyond that I don't get where you're coming from...
By chance, are you referring to how a preacher might use their shared faith in god to advance his own ideals and the cost of those who trust in him/believe what he says (in the name of said god)?
no I will not be a cuck
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Wrong
You don't have to love Jehovah as a Jew?
Based.
To be honest I don't think the actual religion actually matters as much as the followers of it.
Christianity worked, when it was a European religion followed almost exclusively by Europeans and could work again if the brown global biomass are were gate kept out. But it could be replaced by pretty much anything and European man would still make it work.
Nietchze already debunked stocucks
There is no viable to alternative to Christianity
Horseshit, Bruce. The viable alternative to Christianity is not following those that would deceive you-- starting from the beginning. The is the Word of God, and then there is the words of men. Separate the two and you will never need to worry again and you will have solved the riddle and all will be made clear to you. But you have to do the work yourself-- and that is why Christian is the way it is today, because everyone follows Saul instead of Jesus, their favorite bible quotes and chapters are from someone who never met the Man but said he did. The Word is in the book, and people do not understand the weight of those words is heavier than the universes itself.
Roman paganism has a totally different conception of "reality or unreality" of gods.
Sorry mean to say that is still an afterlife and sounds way more peaceful than a lake of fire
If that's what you desire that is your choice. But the Bible doesn't teach that God will send you to another dimension of pain and suffering for rejecting him. It's not in his nature to do that.I don't understand that question.
Christianity is retarded nonsense that is incompatible with modern education and the free flow of information. Also, we need to stop worshiping Jews.
Probably a dumb question, but why do Humans have to "submit"?
That was always one of my biggest sticking points with Christianity.
If that's what you desire that is your choice
No one knows what happens after death. Including you
But the Bible doesn't teach that God will send you to another dimension of pain and suffering for rejecting him.
That contradicts >They go into nothingness.
Which is jt?
MGM
The new testament explicitly says circumcision is no longer necessary / don't do it.
Christianity was also very against race mixing.
Sure there is:
Revenge
All shall bow before Me.