Incels should be forced to interact with women. It is a matter of national security

Incels should be forced to interact with women. It is a matter of national security.

women don't want to do that

There aren't that many geeks in tech any more. It's a bunch of people who say things like, "The soft skills are the most important part, anyone can learn tech!"

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its not a incel problem its a vocel issue. imagine talking to women.

Women should be taxed if they are unmarried after age 25.

so what do you do for work

I dont.
And thats how dates would go.

this. It's not the men who need to be forced.

literally rape

You don't get it. It's not about being able to get laid, I don't want to interact with women. That's the whole problem

Why dont they legalize government subsidized prostitution so you can get a whore from the NHS ?

Translation

Incels WILL take care of single mothers and the aging roasties that are a burden to the government

willing to force men to attend romantic job interviews at gunpoint

not willing to criticize women for being okay with being in de facto harems

The lengths tradcucks will go to to avoid holding women accountable.

Even if you forced the women to speed date they'd still reject 99% of the men.

'Speed dating' but it's actually dozens of men locked in a room at a government building watching propaganda films and being lectured about LGBTQIA+ rights. Attendance is mandatory, and if you miss it, you are fined £500.

implying speed dating represents healthy behavior

have dating apps that could turn any chud into a chad overnight

2020 hits and corniest infest said apps

kikes continue to pollute culture and make nigger culture practically mandatory

now they are wastelands filled with single moms with tattoos and pit bulls and into tarot cards

Once again: norm-niggers ruin a good thing and try to provide a solution to the thing they ruined that is like it was before they ruined it.

force incel men to go through a humiliation ritual at the hands of the few women who choose to show up

Yeah I can't see how that could possibly backfire horribly.

nah just take their dino nuggies away and kick em out of moms basement. That will solve 90% of problems

If women are so promiscuous why it's so hard for you to get pussy, chud?

I hate women because I grew up in a family of women and they treated me like shit

The funny thing is that neither side wants that. "Incels" have no interest in used goods roasties and women would rather die and be eaten by cats than settle for anyone less than a 9/10 Chad.

what part of involuntary they dont understand?

Women need to be educated to be less sexually selective and be willing to provide NSA sex as a public service. If you watch true crime shows like Forensic Files you learn thousands of women are murdered every year simply because some undesirable male wanted to have sex with them. Often these men have no prior criminal records and it was in fact female behavior that drove them to violence.

fix the women first..

"subjected to" is an amusing choice of words in this context

Where the fuck ARE the women? I was going bar hopping every friday last year and it's all boomers and gen xers. Basically nobody below 45.

I've heard zoometes basically just sit around all day on their phones waiting for Chad on the dating apps to come over and fuck them.
My sister basically does that and I know she rarely ever leaves her house to do fun activities so it sounds like it checks out.

This also seems like a white woman thing, since I do see beaner, jeets and gook women more often in public in areas where whites are still majority.

Fuck that. I don't want anything to do with biocunts. Stop giving them state sponsored/mandated lazy girl jobs at our expense.

no more Anon Babble then

(((experts))) say

hilarious we can't use any of the incentives the Japanese are doing, like making home ownership actually possible, and just resort to meme Anon Babble solutions like "make women date me"

single mothers and the aging roasties

In 2008, sure

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If you watch true crime Forensic files

That shit is fake propaganda to validate selection bias by women.

It's literally one of the reasons women think Ghosting is necessary (though it's probably more likely because women are afraid to be responsible and make decisions)

yep gaslighting cunts

Bachelor taxes and indentured servitude for men is literally on the horizon. They will do anything to conserve feminism backed hypergamy. These harems cannot be maintained without a large caste of lower males working for scraps, and generating surplus. They don't care about you having a woman, they just want you to not be a burden to the system, because all women are already a burden, and the system cannot handle most men becoming a burden either. Even just doing the bare minimum, and not providing for an undesirable older women harms the system. But, if you're a full on neet, you're basically an enemy combatant to them.

This also seems like a white woman thing, since I do see beaner, jeets and gook women more often in public in areas where whites are still majority.

I also have mushroom on the mind
The brown women are always hanging off their white dyke bfs who have some money or the NWO allows to employ their cuck ass, then the brown women start judging you in public especially if you get near them
They always start talking about how you need new sneakers and other wagie bullshit that is only real in their US government programmed consoomer 6 figure larping head
Meanwhile white bitches at home too afraid to go outside and when they do it's with some wagecuck meatball approved by the government you can't legally duel and instant headshot for being a shaky pussy

Bachelor tax is a meme and indetured servitude has been here since 2001

foids should have speed dating with incels to improve their recognition of their fucking place

oh hi there

hey there anon do you like my pitbull he's so cute

uhh not really

hey wanna hear me talk about all my previous boyfriends?

uhh not really

don't you just hate our culture history and heritage!

uhh not really

black culture is so rich and deep and vibrant don't you agree anon

uhh not really

hey i know i make more than you at a job that doesn't require to do anything but i think we should go out every night and eat at expensive restaurants doesn't that sound fun!

uhh not really

hey anon i really care about politics just like you! do you want to go me and protest in favor of murdering the unborn and celebrating anal sex!

uhh not really

so anon have you changed your views of women yet? we are great don't you agree?

uhh not really

what is it that makes someone "an expert"

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people

indentured servitude has been here since 2001

If it's by choice, it's not indentured. They'll have labor conscription once male drop out rates reach critical levels. The government cannot maintain this level of subsidizing women without an equal number of men paying surplus into the system. Unless the rich are willing to pay out of pocket, and we all know how laughable of a notion that is. Bachelor tax isn't so much of a meme as it is the current reality. All your taxes go to women and children that aren't yours, and you get next to nothing from said taxes.

An expert is anyone who has profound knowledge in a specific thing, but it isn't a formal standard backed by credentials.

This is someone's opinion piece.

no way, leave me alone, I dont want a normal traditional wife, I rather marry a roasty slut so we can have threesomes and small private orgies

Nah. Pass.

I’ve been to speed dating and all the women reject me

Not a bad idea. It won't happen, though, because nobody actually gives a shit about solving men's problems.

what percentage of men were "accepted"?

good luck with that the women will run from them LMAO

Lol.
Speed raping.

speed dating

women would reject 99.99% of the proposed partners

speed raping

guaranteed success

I agree.
Take my tax money. Pls.
You can tax me extra if you want too.

I don't believe "incels" actually exist. I think you are completely full of shit and talking made up nonsense and artificially manufactured problems.

Real political problems are things like poverty, hunger, genocide, corruption, you just eat up zionist propaganda and repost it online. You are just bored, not confronting a real struggle.

What fucking woman is going to agree to speed date incels? This will only increase their misogyny

Poverty is lack of welfare
Hunger is lack of nourishment
Inceldom is lack of love

That last one doesn't exist! You're just making it up!!!

Speed dating is the easiest way to get a man to hate women because he will notice the only thing she registers from him is his looks.

ah so it's not even speed dating with actual women, just "coaching"

so useless bullshit

build a national dating app without all the evil exploitative shit in it and force everyone who has installed a dating app to install that one as well

When I was 18 I was once standing in line for a speed dating event at an anime convention. The line was so long it wrapped around the hallways. I got scared when I noticed I was the only girl ai could see from my spot in line and most men were twice as old as me. I had a friend walk along the line to see how many other girls there were. There were none, so I left. I got text from my friend working the convention to please get back in line because there are no girls and she will be going too just to be a female body in the room even though she has a bf. I declined. I do not know what happened to that event.

Speed dating and other crap like this requires space for the event to take place. Are they going to have these in municipal facilities supervised by some social services skank? Where are they going to get the women, knowing that they're going to a fucking incel speed dating event?

Don't these fags ever stop to ask themselves how it's possible to have no contact with 50% of the population? Incels are not exactly running away from an abundance of propositions.

Bachelor taxes

Already exists as most gibs go to single mothers and most property taxes go to schools. Childless men pay for both without any benefit.

Are women going to stop being insufferable cunts?

Nicolae Ceaușescu. They should do what he did.

speed date

I sleep

speed rape

real shit?

Yeah men suck.

Elon Musk, who has sired about dozen or so children, is called an incel. Even funnier, it's his tranny son who is the most loud calling him that name. Reminds me of mothers who would scream "you son of a bitch" at their kid without realizing what they were really saying.

Read up on bestiality forums that most female mammals become human cock loving sluts after a single dicking

Furry women are female mammals with an anthro body plan

Hmmmmm maybe your on to something

we should ban dating apps entirely, and attempt to make cultural shifts that encourage women and men to speak to each other and ask each other out, while also encouraging long term relationships.

It is very clear (see picrel) that there is a cultural shift driven by a minority which encourages causal sexual encounters in general and discourages long term relationships, along with discouraging any attempt to show attraction or even converse as "creepy" even if 80% of women would not find it creepy.
We should also make people get outside more, and make sure they have easily accessible spaces to mingle. This will help erode the idea placed into the minds of men and women that the often edited, top 5% of beauty/wealth people they see on their phones are what they should expect in the real world.

KEEP IT UP NPNW BROS
WE ARE ONE STEP AWAY FROM STATE MANDATED WAIFUS

Okay, I laughed at this one.

Idk why, but that gif just makes me recoil in revulsion...

Speed dating is dead anyway. All around the world speed dating and other singles events are failing when hundreds of women attend but only a half a dozen or even no men show up. Men have figured out those events were self-affirmation events for attention whores.

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I tried it because i'm a retard. It's just tinder IRL and attracts almost exclusively the same kind of extremely picky "i'll get gigachad or i'll become the most vengeful spinster in human history, damn it!" kinda cunt that now populate the apps. The key difference is they don't have to ask how tall you are. So it's straight to "how much money you got?" worded in some phrase in womanese because God forbid they ever be direct about being greedy parasites looking for a host aka "provider". Then they all leave, getting rid of whatever contact data they accepted out of courtesy on their way home, thinking "maybe next time, a 6'6" billionaire with a full head of teenage hair at 50yo will come and pick my fat ass because i'm great at makeup and fashion". It's all so tiresome. Of course men don't sign up for that. It isn't even worth the gas money.

Anon Babble can't read again
Not dates, courses. Nobody will force el womano to chat with some incel

speed dating is the key says speed dating coach

imagine the £ on his eyes

it would be both cheaper and faster to legalize prostitution. just add in a retroactive clause to cover all the paki rape gangs.

Lol what exactly would incel speed dating coaches be teaching?

you VILL bow and grovel before the fat tattoo-covered whore

you VILL hand over your paycheck and diamond ring to her

you VILL raise her 3 babies from 3 different Tyrones

you VILL stop the STD shaming and accept ze genital warts

This is how you stop being a LOSER INCEL!!!

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I would have to be. I cant stand talking to women or interacting with them.

This. Women have lost the plot and are incapable of recovering it. They might as well not exist.

Speed dating

Is this where you just have a sign in front of you listing your height, income, and political party?

speed dating

healthy

nigger, there is no healthy relationship unless you were handpicked by your wife's father.
Woman choosing anything at all

but i don't want to talk to women, i just want to kill jews.

Nah, they should be jailed.

THIS

That's how dating works. You ask 100 women out and get one yes.

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That is already pre-baked into the culture already.

Respect women, no matter what

Don't question women

If you have a single negative idea bout a woman or the current state of women, you are a sub-human pathetic loser

What's good the goose is good for the gander

What's good the goose is good for the gander

What's good the goose is good for the gander

What's good the goose is good for the gander

What's good the goose is good for the gander

It is, I’ve never met a single incel who is an actual incel, rather they are all volcels who by their own choice refuse to go out, refuse to socialize, most of all refuse to even try to talk to a woman. I havent met an incel so far who actually admits they regularly flirt with girls and put effort into meeting women. Standard incel story is ”I will isolate in my bedroom and wait until a 10/10 trad stacy knocks on my door to then marry me; also must be a virgin”. If nobody shows up at their house, they interpret that as it’s womens fault.

at this rate, the moomer generation will have to be potty trained by experts too

Incel meets jaded high bc slut

goes worse than before

Sure, throw oil in the seething cauldron. What could go wrong?

"Involuntary" Celibate.
They will fuck anything on legs if they could. It is involuntary. Not a choice.

It's crazy how the government itself is spending resources on this problem that was conjured through mass hysteria and does not exist.

Socializing with women is hellish and i wont do it just for their benifit.

why is the news image a picture of parliament? this isnt that serious of an issue, right?

Most men can only take so much small talk before they walk away. Put them in a situation where they are forced to do it, over and over again, and they get aggro. This is basically torture.

fat tattooed whore with blue hair

Like pottery

I looked at dating events in my area and all of them were sold out for women and they have to promote it for men to attend. I thought it was just a meme lol

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fpbp. /thread.

I do not want compromise, because I like seeing people suffer for their mistakes.

wrong. in the new medical apocalypse women will line up for pure and untainted incel dicks and virgins will lord over the earth

She’s doing it for the algorithm. By rejecting a bunch of men, it brings her closer to the top for “desirable” men. It’s why men who swipe right on every girl get no matches. They get thrown to the bottom of the pile because they’re showing the algorithm that they have no standards and are desperate (which means they’re the prime target to buy the premium version of the dating app in order to “get” more matches)

healthy relationships

Kek even the people in relationships mostly have unhealthy miserable relationships.

Incels should be forced to interact with women.

I WAS forced to interact with women and that's why I'm gay today.

I know you are exaggerating, but many guys actually don't like interacting with women because its almost always for the woman's benefit. Many guys (rightly) feel that they shouldn't be the ones making the first move, and its well known that women will initiate and chase down a man she is actually attracted to.

If women aren't trying to talk to you or be around you, its a sign that you are in fact unattractive.

lmao
to the extent that I hate women I do so because of having been exposed to them

Can they speed produce small housing units like China instead of useless expensive cars that nobody can buy instead? Stop projecting. Lose more 1.4 trillions, stop losing 1.4 trillions in stock market moneys.

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Sorry but building new houses would lower the price of existing houses and boomers don't want to lose their investment.

I dislike women precisely because I've spent most of my life around them.

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I went to a speed dating as a former near-cel(before SEAmaxxing)

Top 10 university education, millionaire engineer in my late 20s, not overweight, but I am 171cm with a non Chad face.

Several women eyed the room upon entering, saw no chads, dropped out of the speed dating on sight. No joke. I will be honest that a couple women persisted, but one was a single mother. Older than me too.

That's how this is going to go for actual incels lol. Government can't fix that these guys simply don't have the chance to even converse with a woman in 2025

Women don't need an event or speed dating to hook up or partner.

Nonlethal electromagnetic frequency weapons
Logical Deduction
Slow lead poisoned alcoholic r-selected "Me Generation" Boomers
Land and Stock hoarding
Designing social media before the smartphone hardware even came out
Observation Skills
Logical Deduction
Perception
Plato The Republic
Ray Dalio The Changing World Order

If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?

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Ya, but making women do anything is against the everything. And everyone one who rules over us is either a low iq faggot or is high iq but with the sole goal of fucking absolutely everything up.

women don't want these men

let's force them to participate in speed rejections for the lulz

Pretty fucking cruel.

Christmas cake should absolutely be shunned at every turn in public.

Women don't want them but they still want the ego boost that comes from from rejecting them.

How will that get me a marriageable virgin bride? The problem is with the selection of women.

women are not interesting enough

This actually makes far more sense than a Bachelors Tax, I was doing some research after I saw it in the thread, and it seems when it's implemented at least for Bachelors Tax, marriage declines sharply, I wonder what the inverse would be for women?.

Good.

That's interesting. Very counter-intuitive. I guess the bachelor's tax was less than half of your shit at a moment's notice.

I mean there was an actual tax-bracket on the books to tax unmarried men. It seems in many instances it caused marriage decline overall further. My question I propose is if there was a Bachelorette Tax, what would that look like? Would marriage dip farther down than it already is, or would there be an inverse effect of increases in marriage. I think the issue is deeper than just financial, and far more cultural, but it's an interesting thought-experiment.

government mandated gfs are now a real thing

Ukrainian Refugee firebombing PM's house

Kier Starmer going full 'fuck off were full' to the point where his lefty party are split and rebelling

What fucking timeline am I in again?

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flirt

gay boy shit. if a woman wants to fuck you, she makes it happen. you dont even have to do anything, she will do all the work

moomer

another abhorrent post from "mexico"

I'm working at a fair and these faggots are there as some start up shit
So that's what they are doing
Kek
I'm literally observing globohomo from quite a close seat gotta say

Inconvenient graph that you can’t explain

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Why can’t these fucks get in their heads that women do not want to have anything to do with most men. Why can’t they get it through their heads.
If women wanted to date the average man it would be happening.

So Globohomo doesn't want to cure autism, but they want to force women to talk to untreated autistic as a matter of policy?

Easy. Gay sex is more common. I've never seen more openly femboys and trannys willing to spread their legs desperately for any guy who shows the slightest interest. And they actually chase the men. I also don't believe women are having less sex, extremely sus.

psychiatry is a scam though

When she turns around I'm the end

Kek

(((Experts says)))

Women can hardly be thought of as having clear ideas all the time.

This expert is going to mandate speed dating. You may think that's good, incels will get dates. That's not what they mean to do. They mean women will be forced to interact with still more asians for a spot of rape, that's all it is.

with shitlibs everything they talk about is shittier and shittier. Eustice was right about those fuckers.

Now that you bring up that perspective, I guess the men having less financial power/assets due to taxation, that would make them less attractive to women, leading to depressed marriage rates, while taxing women could encourage them get hitched because they would want a man's income and to keep a bit more of their own to have a better quality of life. Either way, at least in my analysis, it's all based on women's decisions.

emancipate women

fast forward present day

thems the breaks

why is the automatic assumption that there's something wrong with the boys, but not the girls?

28 is a better cutoff I think, and make exceptions for women who have kids, but yeah generally women who aren't married to a man by a certain point should be taxed more.

why do we pretend pre language communication isnt important? why do we pretend the "most attractive mates" are those who "play the game of modernity," best, eg, you. you just described a perfect golem, a perfect cog in the machine, yourself. and you are posting, "why wont the women pick me, i am great at running the maze," lol. its actually humorous when you think about it. this system is slavery and you think women should pick the most effective slaves? you yourself admit facial strcture is more important because it communicates something before language, before "society" i say good riddance the women are choosing correctly when listening to their bodies rather than their modern programming from socialization

Wrong way around
Women should be forced to interact with in a world where they can't, at will, decide any interaction with us is sexual assault or rape at some arbitrary point in the future. Also, no one should have access to websites that give them easy and consequence free access to sex. If women want to bang, they have to go out among the rabble just like us.

Because the West is a gynocentric matriarchy.

why is the automatic assumption that women should conform to globohomo standards of selecting weak slaves because "its good for the economy/society" or whatever other bullshit argument they make? its like saying "you should be a slave because that's just what we do okay?" pretty funny how when it comes to women all of a sudden Anon Babble is a bunch of order following cowards that want rewards for their bootlicking. lmfao. fuck the fed until no gf then its i play the game better than other slaves. PATHETIC

This expert is going to mandate speed dating. You may think that's good

I hope they film it, because it will be fucking hilarious watching the femoids get the ick in real time from the incels and ricels.

society is a contract

that isnt the assumption at all though. I'm not even suggesting the problem is with women. I'm saying this is clearly an issue with the youth in general, why is it assumed the source of the problem lies with only 1 of the sexes?

why do you hate your father?

Sounds like a good idea for both men and women. Also, two or more kids and no taxes for that married couple. Legalize having a second wife, under the same roof. Outright ban on birth control unless one has genetic reasons.

I actually got way more pussy during times of being unemployed than when working and being all stressed out and exhausted and having limited free time.
I've also gone LONG periods of time in relationships without the girl actually knowing what i did, or that I was unemployed. Whenever they asked, I would just blow them off by saying something obviously not true to make them feel retarded for asking such a dumb question.
Eventually they just assume you must be a drug dealer or criminal or undercover cop or spy or come from a rich family, all of which turn girls on. Which is cool until something happens and she realizes that no, you are actually just an unemployed loser and dumps you lol.

yeah, a contract to enslave the majority at the benefit of the oppulent minority while they larp as "the best" its a power play social control. i dont consent and i dont approve

its the assumption with people posting bullshit like "i bought a house at 14 and i have a phd on engineering why cant i find a wife." its dumb because women will love to capture a pay pig cuck, so moneyed men can always get a woman to pretend to love them for economic security, but the men unironically larping as best golem for good gf points is beyond absurd on a website that actively critiques the system and these structures of power and enslavement, when pussy is on the line, its "I KNEEL THE HARDEST MOMMY PLEASE LOVE ME." lol

99% of the people that actually use dating apps are extremely low value, unattractive, garbage tier losers and failures at life.

my father is an asshole. he is an emotionally immature benefactor of parasitism while larping as an uber genius renaissance man

bachelorette tax

I think in the US, the left and feminists would definitely revolt and get really angry about it, at least. Depending on whether they're successful at getting broad appeal vs just alienating people, it might not last. It would then maybe be implemented at the state level.

I agree though. How can you be in your freakin 20s and 30s and worst case 40s and have never got your dick wet a handful of times AT LEAST. You are failing to participate in the basic experience of life. WHAT THE FUCK!? GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER.

Brush your fuckin teeth. Get a haircut. AND STFU.

I dont know why youre relating the attitudes on this website to an issue the UK government is claiming it wants to address on a national level or how you're relating this to my question why there assumption is that there's an issue with only the boys. we're talking about an entire generation here, normies.

I'm so sorry, but that shouldn't go in your view of men as a whole, most people are horrible but there are good ones out there, gl

failures at life

this is another form of the genetic fallacy, or in other words, pretending your economic status is somehow an indication of your genetic fitness, lmfao. ITS A SLAVE SYSTEM IDIOT

the issue is women having access to infinite choice via the internet. By nature they're more selective than men and the internet puts this into overdrive.

What if you just don't care that much about women, though? Not in a gay way, just that you aren't desperate for a girlfriend/pussy the way some men seem to be.

Just legalize prostitution

You forgot give her a firm handshake, boomer

Outright ban on birth control unless one has genetic reasons.

I said this in another board, but look at what hormone disruptors do to trannys when transitioning, and now look at women where birth control fucks with THEIR hormones from a very young age at nearly middle school... really gets the noggin a joggin.
Oh they would, they're fine for the inverse, again, the concept of "What's good for the goose is good for the gander" which is a toxic environment for men that's hard baked into the system. That and women are very much a protected class.

I'm not bitterly saying that quote you ascribe to me since moving to Asia post covid, but the rest is decent analysis.

See how it plays out for humanity I guess

Just take women's rights away

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Rachel (((Clun)))

EyeNoseJewsAreEvil

Something needs to be done about the testosterone drop in western society as well. I'm convinced these problem feminist are a directly result of this.

Also every feminist type I've dated accidentally has outright admitted she had daddy issues and craved a strong traditional man. They just tend to shit test more which chases off most low T men.

They only have excessive rights becouse men let them.

The Vietnamese girl I speak to will be up in a few hours.

because obviously the people posting shit like that are posting in bad faith. its a sick quid pro quo (this r/niceguys) interpretation of human behaviour. the most slavish of "human" orientations. i cannot believe that a genuine anon, a real Anon Babbleack would unironically say 'BUT I DID GOOD I MADE THE MONEY WHY CANT I FIND A GF' when they know what they know about how society is a fake slave system. BUT I PROGRAMMED THE SLAVE COMPUTER I FINE TUNE THE SLAVE ALGORITHM. its just so absurd when you really think about it

Nice bait M8

When I was 19 and in college (2016-2017) I experienced the full brunt of #metoo culture and women there would see you as a nuisance at best if you weren't the top percentage of guys
I've been on outings with two women and despite that it just isn't worth it.
women are fucking trash

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Does speed dating even work?
From the description it seems like Tinder but in real life. No time to form a meaningful connection, just 30 seconds to decide if you would fuck the other person or not.

IDK, I think if you packaged it with a constitutional protection for abortion and more paid maternal leave or something they might be ok with it.

sorry but I'm simply not going to bother with your shit tests
go shit test a cop bitch

The majority of incels are more average-looking than they think, and this isn't something to be ashamed of, considering they think the root problem of their inceldom is because they think they themselves are ugly.
It's all about your mindset, personality, and your "vibes". (which can be improved) Take Elliot Rodger for example, he wasn't an ugly man. In fact, there has been much uglier looking guys who have scooped up attractive girlfriends and wives for themselves. He had a lot going for him, except for his mentality and energy, which were negative and repulsive.
This is not gonna land you a date, even serial killers knew how to fake charismatic and kind male behavior to unsuspecting men and women. If those creepy irredeemable fuckers could do it, you can too.
A woman does not want a "nice guy" (false kindness that seeks and demands a reward for their behavior, which is inherently selfish)
A woman does not want someone desperate for a relationship. (a man who wants a trophy to boost his confidence for himself and others, again this is inherently selfish)
However for both of those two points above, I think if you do exhibit those behaviors, you deserve to have heartbreak. Maybe it'll make you understand what a relationship actually is and what it's about. :)

The men you consider as "weak slaves" are actually the men that are on your level. The problem with modern society is that men out of your league will happily use you as a cock holster and then throw you away to move on to the next until they finally a marry a woman more on their level. You and the average men you hate both end up dying alone because you thought you could do better. No one really wins.

Kek Added to my collection.

EyeNoseJewsAreEvil

didn't read, women should lower their standards and have less rights to fuck over men

Yeah not really, it's like analog swipe apps. They made sense in a time before swipe apps, not after.

Probably solid proof that the "expert" quoted is some delusional boomer who has no idea what they're dealing with.

this
I know my level, women don't know theirs until they hit the wall

i generally side with men, i just think its dumb that retards unironically think because they are closer to the macabre halls of power that they suddenly should "get access to pussy," and they unironically refer to things like their credentials lmfao. its like saying "the matrix said im best golem, wont you go out with me," to be as pedantic as possible.

its just funny to me that post language post society things like hierarchical control structures of passive aggressive accreditation in leiu of natural organizations are considered more eminent than brutal primitive nature, lol

sorry but not making the effort to attract women that will not improve my life in any way
they should lower their standards

So more abortions and benefits for single mothers
Better go back to the drawing board

this

I was going bar hopping every friday last year and it's all boomers and gen xers.

You were going to the wrong places and/or wrong times.
I have spent way too much of my life in bars all over the world, and you will start to see patterns.
It is very common to see things like a bar being dead with just old dudes who are the alcoholic regulars. Then suddenly it's filled with a ton of younger fratty dudebros who stick around for an hour or so then leave because it's a sausage fest. Then after they leave, girls start coming in until there are way more girls than dudes for a while. Then other dudes will start coming in and it's peak loudness and crowded for an hour or so. Then eventually people will start leaving to go somewhere else or get food or afterparty or sleep or fuck or whatever.

interacting with a group will make you stop hating them!

How many times will leftists try to repeat the same experiment expecting different results?

A woman does not want a "nice guy" (false kindness that seeks and demands a reward for their behavior, which is inherently selfish)

Yet that's what's fucking taught by women to boys, in the system, and then said women hump after the most abusive toxic men around, retard.

A woman does not want someone desperate for a relationship. (a man who wants a trophy to boost his confidence for himself and others, again this is inherently selfish)

Need the experience first, which is the cart before the horse situation.
Even then these extended dating sessions of extremely overly long and drawn out shit-testing aren't the normalcy of human evolution, the "Pill" and sexual revolution took away nature's speed bump/safety mechanism and now we're here.

I am 37 and have never seen another human being naked in person. My folks drilled into my head that all that mattered was school, work, and money. Everything else would come once I focused on that, they told me.
Now I am almost a 40 years old virgin because none of the things came in time.

speed dating works better than any form of dating.

1. Women know within the first minute of knowing you if they would have sex with you.
Note this doesn't mean they are going to, it's a hypothetical. If they were hypothetically single, etc. They would have sex with you or not.
That's how the female brain works.
So speed dating benefits women.
2. You as a man have to get really good at reading red flags, women are very very bad at hiding their red flags. In speed dating all the red flags are pretty blatant.

Dating is a numbers game and TINDER is as far from dating as possible. Tinder is the woman choosing, not her genetics choosing.
In person there are countless things from the frequency of your voice to subtle smile cues that make a woman biologically check that "yes I would sleep with him" box.
On tinder, you're only dealing with the woman's brain, her personality. Which my brother in christ why would you do that to yourself.

It is very common to see things like a bar being dead with just old dudes who are the alcoholic regulars. Then suddenly it's filled with a ton of younger fratty dudebros who stick around for an hour or so then leave because it's a sausage fest. Then after they leave, girls start coming in until there are way more girls than dudes for a while. Then other dudes will start coming in and it's peak loudness and crowded for an hour or so. Then eventually people will start leaving to go

Sounds fucking awful to experience just to find a date.

Maybe go to a trailer park, the women will likely be receptive towards people like you and have the standards you are looking for. You can't complain.

if you complain about women having retarded standards you must be ugly

I have seen dudes with six packs, nice faces and great bods (No homo) with overweight average women

If keir starmer wanted to rob reform of a huge chunk of their support base he would sell the idea that the future immigration policy of Britain will be to provide mail order waifus. THAT would be the winning issue but of course they won’t because their objective isn’t to solve the problem but to merely utilize it as an excuse to take away MORE freedom from the population. In this case: STATE MANDATED DATES WITH TRANNIES.

be Brit bong

loose gf

scared shitless out of his mind, in an absolute panic NEEDING to find a gf, NOT because he wants one but because of Sir Keir Starmer’s dating program.

British police knock on anons door

”here’s your schedules date sir”

it’s a tranny (because you can’t say it’s not a woman)

anon refuses to go on a date

gets thrown in jail for refusing tranny date

BRIT BONGS WILL BE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO DATE TRANNIES LMFAOOO

Hey if you want the other side of a negotiation to give you what you want, you have to concede something otherwise they will just tell you to fuck off.

Or you can just fucking kill them
At this point, fuck the other side, just kill them

It's naw droppingly common in the modern era for the man to pretty much have a personal trainer physique and then woman be a slampig

it will happen when muslim take over anyway

Kek. Should I habe converted to stay with my thai muslim ex gf?

yeah over here even a slampig that doesn't look too bad thinks she's too good for 80% of men

You should never compromise when the other side is stronger because they can afford to compromise until you have nothing left and then keep everything in the end

She's probably looking for a guy she saw irl. Women would do anything than admit their love for someone directly.

just kill all white women and doom your own race

Yeah great plan buddy, really using your noodle there.

Allahu Akbar!

in that case they should be made to submit
women should submit or be forced to

Band aid on a broken leg. Won't do shit.

If anything, speeddating would just radicalize them further.
The thought of being in an assembly line for one minute contact with women I'll probably never see again sounds retarded.

how can you possibly love strangers that you barely know?

That is true for all of the White "incels," every single one of them could go out and get a decent gf but they are too love-shy and socially anxious to go out and do it.
But there are also a LOT of incels who are incels because they are Pajeets and other non-White shitskins who moved to western, White countries. Those guys do go out and creepily and awkwardly hit on girls and pester and annoy them. Those guys also don't ever get any pussy, but it's because they are gross, weird, creepy shitskins who don't belong her.

I love how every even Anon Babble avoids the elephant in the room
Women are simply not worth it, even when you succeed with them
Its all simply too much hassle and talking to do just for a bit of sex. That pump&dump shit feels the same as fucking a whore, and paying one of those is less trouble.

And if she doesn't run for the hills as soon as you try to actually get to know her, since very many women don even want any relationship?
Then YOU will very likely run after 3 months max, because you'll have enough of her drama-creation, 'subtle' financial demands and social expectations of liking or at least enduring all her damn fucking friends and family and colleagues and w/e shitheads she she drags into your life
You don't get just a gf anymore now, you get a whole damn village of hanger-on stuffed into your life, and all of her socmedia/TV approved political views come along with this to boot.

NOT WORTH IT, BITCH.
Better alone than that much shitshow to fake my way through

slampig or not, standard with a bad attitude. constantly picking fights to try and expand her "boundaries"

i dumped a girl on the spot for this. they know what theyre doing, and they do it intentionally because this degenerate era teaches them to

dont ever, not even once allow this anon brothers

Every Stacey should be assigned a compulsory Incel.

This but also childhood friends. Growing up together instills a love for one another that will keep you through thick and thin.

Those women require absolutely zero investment on his part and will do anything he says. She's temporary. She keeps his balls empty and that's it. He can even cheat on her and she will still stick around and swallow his load. That's the only reason he keeps her around.

you've never been infatuated with a girl without speaking to her?

kek nice

I can say with some pride that I have "gone mad" and embraced 2D

this big time
women and society as a whole isn't worth it when they demand so much out of us but offer us little to nothing in return

that's the vast majority of women these days, that's the fucking problem with women

I have seen dudes with six packs, nice faces and great bods (No homo) with overweight average women

My nephew is in this exact situation. I am a short nerd born in the late 70s and I had actual sex with real women, all I had to do was go to places where women were at and strike up a conversation. I was not a cool guy just kind of funny, no coaching from Nigrew Tate or anything like that. I have a nephew in his 20s who hit the genetic lottery, over 6 foot, athletic, I assume he has a six pack, smart, kind of a normie who just likes to work and make money, and his girl that he may be marrying is nice enough but she's fkn fat!!!!! Not a complete tub of lard but built like an oompa loompa. For a while I was like, if he has any self respect he would dump her. But after watching how women are these days, I think she's actually a catch, I mean she doesn't treat him like total shit and really can you expect anything more from these fat whores these day? I feel bad for him. And I don't even know what I would do myself if I wanted to date, it's a lost cause really. There is no real immediate solution, basically have to kick jews out of entertainment industry and legal positions so we can get women back in line.

women will never agree to this and you can't force them because this is not a muslim country

Still wouldn't be with an obese woman.
Even having her in the house and watching her waddle around would disgust me.

nothing makes me hate women more than being obliged to interact with them

at least all I can say is that the man my sister is in a long term relationship with and could marry have a far better social network than I could ever hope for and he could get someone with a nice girl to date any kind of nephew he can give me

Average looking men are ugly to women. They don't work the same way as us

you can't force them

oh you absolutely can
shoot the fucking cops and politicians

Anything with a hole can receive fractional attention online that overflows what even a legit 9/10 would receive pre internet i guess.

When I last lived in US, a classic chad type (height, muscles, personality, work for father's company) said at volleyball "I like to date fat ones sometimes because they have to pretend to be what you're into like the UFC haha", so the 'slow Thursday for chad' meme is pretty real.

I know he was also raw creampieing because he talked about forcing girls to take morning after pill.

they will get paid to be present and to a half-ass job
the idea is ridiculous and won't solve anything but that's expected of politicians who don't interact with the normal citizen life and have no idea what's going on in their country

kek

I feel that though. I used to have a bombshell gf, it was fucking awful. They know they're hot, they know at any point or time they can replace you, they know there's 60 dudes in their DMs ready to take her to cancun within a week's notice, and boy oh boy will a women with that kind of power remind you every fucking seconds.
When women have power they don't direct it at their partner, they use that as leverage to demand more. It was expensive, emotionally draining and sex always felt like I was rewarded for being a good little slave.
I broke up with her and it drove her insane. Now I have a androgynous kinda twerpy non-binary fuck friend and is it so much better to not have to be a 24/7 performer.

Now get the women to turn up to incel speed dating....

funny how the androgynous tomboy whatever kind of girl is appealing to me more and more
she still needs to have a nice ass though

This, but unironically. This generation of women are basically amoral, toxic, childish sociopaths. They only go to those things to look good to their friends, whom by the way-- will probably sabotage the relationship at some point.

50 s the new 35

Absolutely not. Rejection radicalizes men more than inceldom.

I've come to accept the fate of surrogacy and single fatherhood

oh this
nothing gets a man to hate a woman more than constant rejection while one guy can get her in one fell swoop

The mad one

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theyre not

we grew up playing video games n were shy the first time is difficukt, like you wanna grab that ass but your scared inside but one day you just gotta go for it

She's also into giving incredible rimjobs.

because I didn't make her pussy wet in the first 15 seconds
because I'm not a perfect specimen and I refuse to negotiate for her attraction when a chad can get to cream her raw for a drink

FUR GLORIA.

FUR SOLDATENEHRE

FUR HEIMAT

FUR HITLER

And if you don't want to take part in a system that requires you to chase after women like a little puppy dog begging for a treat?

Get rid of welfare, child support and affirmative action and make any unmarried woman over the age of 20 eligible for the draft.

Incels should be forced to interact with women.

I'm all in favor of involuntary force when it comes to women.

Um ackshually that's called limerence and it's le bad.

yeah obviously, its just only a problem when men have standards, the funny thing is that they have been twisted and talked down to by retards like you that project the insane prerequisites for a partner expectation, the problem is that men are increasingly unaffected by social shaming, try a different strategy already

Okay Hobbes

don't like interacting with women because its almost always for the woman's benefit.

This isn't a man vs woman thing. There are many people with an underdeveloped sense of morality in both sexes. Men are just as bad about it, if not worse, you just don't notice it because most men aren't trying to manipulate you into having sex with them.

Many guys (rightly) feel that they shouldn't be the ones making the first move

It doesn't matter if you think it is right or wrong, the male and female roles in the human mating process are the result of millions of years of evolution. It's not going to change any time soon. Like it or not, it's the male's role to take the initiative and take risks and make the first move and push things forward sexually. It's the female role to be passive and attract and lock down a high value mate with her looks.

women will initiate and chase down a man she is actually attracted to.

Yes but only to a certain extent. They will always expect the man to make the first real, undeniable escalation toward sex. If it never happens, eventually they will assume the guy isn't interested in her.
They will move physically closer to the guy, initiate a conversation with him, be touchy feely with him, hugs around the neck, be flirty, start talking about sexual shit, etc. But they always wait for the guy to be the one to move in for the kiss to start making out, or to ask if she wants to leave and go somewhere private to fuck, whatever it is that causes it to go past a line.

If women aren't trying to talk to you or be around you

They do. Constantly getting hugs and kisses and girls screaming my name when they see me, "accidentally" rubbing their asses and tits on me, sitting in my lap, rubbing my arms and chest, etc.
Last night a girl asked for my number to send me some pics. I have had numerous girls show their tits to me, or tell me to feel them up. Girls will randomly just bite me. But there is always a line they expect the man to cross.

do all that

get accused of harassment

get fucked

Why do these people always blame men when the people at fault are women with insanely high standards?

state mandated gf soon

bros, are we gonna.. make it?

If you think incels hate women before interacting, just wait til after they're "subjected" to them lol

because it's more socially acceptable to shit on men and men actually have the brainpower and strength to overthrow governments

Age dependant

Society is broken if they genuinely think speed dating is going to help individuals that aren't naturally good at modern dating to adapt to it.
It's literally going to scare them away from dating and it's going to cause them to be more damaged.

Humans are always trying to "trial by fire" train other humans.
They'd be better off just fucking killing themselves. If we lost all the narcissistic pieces of shit that are ALSO unintelligent, I guarantee the quality of society would increase drastically within a fortnight

You too, huh?

I'm so fucking tired of it all bro. It's like I've already lost at life but I've still got several decades of it left to suffer through with no prospect of turning things around.

That's how dating works. You ask 100 women out and get one yes.

Just for them to reject you after talking for a while. Dating is just job hunting with a higher chance of getting laughed at by some roastie and her friends for giving her the "ick"

You just described school

Modern women are hiding in chad harems, that's why you barely see them in public anymore. They hate men who aren't chad, they're scared of and disgusted by men other than chad. They only ever leave their chad harems to do things like run errands or meet new chads. That's why they get angry when non-chads talk to them. In a modern woman's mind, it's an icky ugly loser creep ruining her day by forcing her to interact with him when all she wants to do is get back to chad as quickly as possible. It's kind of like this blackpill comic, except instead the woman DOES see all the other guys and they all look like fucked up goblins to her.

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I would like that. I have no idea where to find women who are willing to talk, or how to talk to them. Every single woman I see at university is either taken or is always with a group of friends.

I'm hoping to at least get my own place to live and to eventually move into a real homestead, preferably in a rocky mountain state.

That is basically outlined by hoe_math's videos.

girl tells you what she wants

you do those things

"Ew!"

This is why civilization will never recover while women have rights.

Uh no, dumb whore, its easy to walk around hating 50 percent of the population if you've been subjected to them.

I like to play pretend too anon.

Cope, retard. And you're gonna keep coping until the end of time as long as women have rights.

That's because fat/ugly women are extremely insecure about their looks and obsessed with getting a stereotypically Chad good looks boyfriend to "prove" that they are attractive too.
Guys like that are with women like that because it takes zero effort for him, and she will put up with an insane amount of bullshit and still suck his dick and let him put it in her ass. He can fuck hotter chicks on the side.
NOTE: this is not an endorsement of fat/ugly chicks. They always have shitty, bitchy attitudes and think they are much hotter than they are. They are also not any easier to get with than hotter chicks UNLESS you are a hot Chad who is fine with a fat/dumpy gf who he can treat like shit.

Get rid of welfare, child support and affirmative action and make any unmarried woman over the age of 20 eligible for the draft.

Based. And get rid of no-fault divorce and alimony. Make paternity fraud a criminal offense. Mandatory minimum sentences for false rape accusations.

Fund unbiased studies on hormonal birth control pills and their effect in developing brains (I think they're making women fat and crazy and should probably be banned especially for under 18).

sup

based

I'm not paying for some woman's dinner. try to force me and find out.

it wont be that way much longer

Never gonna happen. That'd be a just system. Too many retarded simp faggot men, women and kike lawyers that'd be against it (without revolution of course).

They made sense in a time before swipe apps, not after.

They make some sense that many people are bad at making and presenting themselves in photos. They are more attractive irl and for them analog tinder makes sense. Still has all problems tinder has.

This has to be the dumbest solution to a problem I've ever heard of. Prepare for mandatory speed dating.

tits or gtfo

posted them in another thread

I spent an hour today listening to an erotic hypnosis video and creamed my pants without touching my dick. Please tell me what I'm even supposed to do with a woman at this point? Lmfao.

t. jacked 6'+ programmer/scientist

My entire family is dead. These government parasites have no idea just how fucked everything is.

Lol, funny
well played

More like you ask 1 woman out and she calls the cops on you for not being chad.

because I didn't make her pussy wet in the first 15 seconds

Irrelevant, all that matters is not completely drying her pussy up before your dick is in it. And that rarely happens based on a guy's looks alone. Usually it is because he acts timid/creepy/weird.

because I'm not a perfect specimen

Irrelevant. No one is perfect. If you aren't noticeably well below average in an area that matters, you can still do fine.

and I refuse to negotiate for her attraction

Irrelevant. It is her role to attract high value males to her via her looks. As a male, your role is to see an attractive girl and approach her and make your move.

when a chad can get to cream her raw for a drink

That's because Chad doesn't give a fuck about whether she is attracted to him or not. He just does what he needs to do.

We should make men hate females even more

Accelerate!

You aren't going to get accused of harassment if you aren't doing something outrageously inappropriate or creepy.

jews should have "not raping kids" coaching to help them stop raping kids

Just make prostitution legal if they care so much. Problem solved.

kek

Some of these poor bastards are called creepy for merely existing in public. You're out of your fucking mind.

Usually it is because he acts timid/creepy/weird.

Charisma is also genetic just like good looks, so that doesn't really change anything.

if you aren't doing something outrageously inappropriate or creepy.

If you arent attractive, you are creepy and inappropiate
You really think that women who think with their emotions, are capable of differentiating a guy who stutters vs a guy who trying to rape them?

False, I've witnessed false accusations of sexual harassment and the man who was accused did literally nothing the fat whore claimed he did

Me and another guy were in the room when it "happened" she literally just lied because she was a stupid whore

Believe no women

As a male, your role is to see an attractive girl and approach her and make your move.

And then get arrested because women think getting approached by a sub-8 is sexual assault.

post height

FPBP

thats the plan, shouldve never been outlawed

I agree, it will never happen under the current system. And I don't see revolution as a realistic possibility any time soon. That's why men should lie flat - refuse to serve in the military and find ways to pay as little taxes as possible. Fuck the system.

5'2" Indian and janitor

Yep.

or is always with a group of friends.

So what? Just start talking to the whole group.

This is the way, become ungovernable, especially refuse drafts and military service and slowly degrade the system and undermine the current corrupt system.

Its worth a shot. Has any country tried this?

And this is the problem, approach a woman and get called a fucking creep or worse police are called and you get charged with harassment.

And as for dating app's? Fuck that, dating app's should be fucking banned because they are just ways for women to exploit men. It is is fucking ridiculous, a lot of these bitches are getting a free lunch from a guy who just want's a girlfriend. I'm and many guys aren't fucking paying for that, and we know the problem will fix it self once simps stop pouring money into they narcissistic bitches bank accounts.

Prostitution is illegal for a reason, it destroys society and that is what those dating apps really are. It is disgusting that a woman can say "I won't sleep with a guy unless he spends £2000 on me" and not get fucking slut shamed and destroyed in social media, because it is this toxicity that is the problem and not lonely men.

And then there are the men that use it.

The incel problem is not just a male issue. It's the result of men being shat on by the leftist/feminist media, shafted for opportunities in life, etc. coupled with modern women being hypergamous and financially independent as a result of now holding positions of power, wealth, influence previously held by men that afford them the privilege to do so; which is also why we are seeing a decline in birth rates. These are all shadows of the same problem viewed from different angles, (see picrel). Yet again, this a problem facing both genders requiring both of their participation and responsibility, and yet again the media and governments lay the blame exclusively on the males, while also making fun of them, and proposing these weak pathetic humiliating """solutions""" that come across as nothing more than out-of-touch tone-deaf pandering from people who fail to fundamentally understand the fullness and complexity of the problem. It is a start though, so credit where it's due

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If you aren't chad then every one of them will shit on you and try to convince her to reject you.

If they think you're attractive you can get away with anything.

Be me at college house party

get so drunk I pissed in a girl's rain boots at the end of the night

she sees me and goes WTF HOW AM I GONNA WALK HOME?!

I laugh and say "don't worry you only live a block away I'll just carry you home"

piggy back her to her house

ask if she wants to "hang out for a bit" in her place

we fuck

Another time

tell Jewish girl she has a big Jew nose

tell her friend standing next to her she has nicer tits

yell COME HERE BITCH I'M GONNA MOTORBOAT THOSE TITTIES and lunge at her friend

she slaps me, I laugh, they walk away angry

later that night I find her and ask if she wants to split a cab home

she says yes

go back to her place and fuck

Lol, incel and speed dating coach get together

OK INCEL TIME TO MEET SOME WOMEN! GO GETTEM TIGER!

1: Hey cutie | Blocked

2: you are a man | Blocked

3: that's a lot of makeup | Blocked

4: Hey...| Blocked

5: Nice tits nwn... "giggle" | CUT CUT

ANON WHAT ARE YOU DOING THAT WAS 5 / 5 BLOCKS! You are never going to get a gf this way!

hey man you cockblocked me that last time!

NO you are Too Mysogynistic! Quit commenting on physical features like makeup or beauty! Take charge, offer to buy them dinner or chocolates! Tell them how smart they are...!

but they arn't i just like tits...

ANON THIS IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY WE ARE GOING TO GET YOU LAID!

what if it's a man though thats gay...

SCARLETTE IS A PERFECTLY VALID WOMEN

idk man he named himself after a noir prostitute man...

statistically women are vastly overrepresented at speed dating events. Any dating events actually. There was this dating thing in china where 500 women showed up and 10 men. Its very common for these events to be 90%+ women.

Charisma is also genetic

No it isn't. Genetics can play into certain aspects of it, but being charismatic is mostly just having very well developed social skills and high social/emotional intelligence.
You aren't charismatic because you spent most of your childhood alone, at home, doing nerd shit while all of the future charismatic people were playing and interacting with the other kids and learning social skill through trial and error.

I'll go to jail with them

Underrated post

What is your race?

post height

5'10"

she sees me and goes WTF HOW AM I GONNA WALK HOME?!

...

Men don't want to pay for a liability they just want sex.

At best the man wants a women who's relaxing to hang around, and is willing to sit around some extreme cringe to see what happens which is to say... he has a gambling addiction.

It's just genetic luck, that's why it's controlled by genetic conditions, e.g. psychopaths have high charisma and get pussy, while autists have low charisma and disgust women. It's genetic luck. But either way, my point is that it's not something you have any control over.
I'm white.

No anon, you ignore the fact that this is just a symptom like everything else is just a symptom of something much worse.

Why should men show up when the women will just reject them to have bisexual group sex with the hottest guys there?

Prostitution is illegal for a reason, it destroys society

Funny that society was fine when prostitution was de facto legal in US until 20th century

and that is what those dating apps really are. that a woman can say "I won't sleep with a guy unless he spends £2000 on me"

Nah modern dating includes things " guy spends £2000 on woman and she just ghosts him after". That is not how prostitution works.

but other than what I said about it being a symptom, yes it do be like that. And there is nothing worse than having to deal with people you don't want to deal with every fucking day and it becomes so tiring. You have to be in love for any of it to work and also no be bothered about stupid shit, meaning you need a woman that actually feels the same way that you do.

But most woman these days are exactly like your described.

Women just don't want them.
Socialiing with women id pointless if it doesn't end with sex so disheartened men just abandon idea after lack of success.

Yes, psychopaths generally have very high emotional and social intelligence and autismos typically have very deficient emotional and social intelligence.
But for the other 99% of the population who don't have those conditions and don't have fucked up genes, it's mostly a matter of learned social skills. You might never be charismatic enough to convince hundreds of people to join your cult and worship you, but you can definitely learn enough to get a girlfriend.

Legendary greentext lmao. Microcosmic encapsulation of the problem

Humanity is going to split into two species.

The eusocial father havers who build civilization and self select for slave/master dynamics.

And the niggers who take the single mother chad haram route.

No, it's just genetic. Normies don't have to "learn social skills", it just comes naturally to them, they just mindlessly stumble through life and randomly get friends and sex as an inherent aspect of being a human.

Lol you can't talk to groups. They'll look at you like you're some kind of mad freak.

guy spends £2000 on woman and she just ghosts him after

Any guy who spends that much money on a woman he isn't even in a serious relationship with is fucking retarded.

Just be urself bro i didn't read your wall of text. Love ain't for everyone.

is fucking retarded.

Or desperate or both. Many such cases. And this is scam, unlike prostitution.

10/10 trad stacy knocks on my door to then marry me; also must be a virgin”. If nobody shows up at their house, they interpret that as it’s womens fault.

I'd take an ugly munter as long as she wasn't fat and doesn't have retarded opinions and views. The she also doesn't not have retarded friends and family that have to be around me all the time...

I just really fucking hate stupid people, don't you fucking get that? Look out your window, look at all those stupid fucking bastards walking around, going outside where I live its almost inevitable I'd have to deal with some retarded cunt. So I rarely go out, its not safe outside where i live.

Normies don't have to "learn social skills", it just comes naturally to them

Absolutely not, that's completely retarded.
You would just rather wallow in self pity and make excuses and (wrongly) blame all of your problems on external factors outside of your control instead of facing the facts.
Life doesn't just happen to people. It doesn't all just come naturally. The reason all of those people are learning social skills and getting into relationships and losing their virginity and getting good jobs and buying houses and getting married and starting families and all of those other "milestones" that they are reaching that you are not is because they are actually going out and doing whatever is necessary to achieve those things while you just sit at home being passive, doing nothing except whining about how life isn't happening to you.

Humans evolved for thousands and thousands of years as a social animal. It literally does just come naturally to them. It's instinct.

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Lol you can't talk to groups.

Lol yes you can. Literally just go up to them and talk about whatever like a normal person.

They'll look at you like you're some kind of mad freak.

No they won't, not unless you are doing something extremely weird and creepy and/or are an ugly brown person.

Dumb fuck

Psychos and Autismos are evolutionary hedge bets for the core normie genetics.

In a perfect world everyone is a normie, everyone pairs up in a monogomous or near monogomous relationship. All the men and women are simple, dumb, and normal creatures who like normal things, eat normal food, do normal work, and enjoy normal (perhaps a little rough) sex.

This fails upon any amount of challenge. Psychos are the exceptionally cynical hedge. They parasitize. Say there is a famine or a genocide. The psycho seeks only to benefit themselves and adapts quicker than the normies, who all die.

If the entire rest of the population dies, it live on in the psycho which genetically preserves the population.

The autist is the other way around, in the event of the famine or the genocide the autist's already odd behavior insulates them from the fallout. They survive almost by pure luck. It makes sense that psychos and autists are at odds.

To psychos autists are mentally ill freaks that should have died, to autists, psychos are false normies who should have died.

Normies will never perceive this dynamic

Lol you can't talk to groups. They'll look at you like you're some kind of mad freak.

they don't get it anon, they think the world is like a cartoon where everyone is a nice person.

pic some what related to this thread, approach girl get called a freak, some beta fag also ready to cock block you and call police. This isn't some warped view, it is reality!

fucking GG

Bestiality

Even if you fuck a biocunt, she still prefers niggers so that's been debunked!

Forcing supersized afterthots on men

Fuck off.