My ancestor

My ancestor

WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU FORTY TO ONE!

Dead bruh looks based.

Lalo?

this nigga is literally the dark swede phenotype. i know like 15 people that look like this

Sweden is around 45% haplogroup I1+ I2, 45% haplogroup R1a+R1b, the rest being either N (fingolians) or stuff like E J etc
familytreedna.com/groups/sweden/about/results

Blond hair comes from the race which was I, and brown hair comes from the race which brought R, the person Op posted, who had brown or red hair
Interestingly almost all the natives in Sweden were blond, close if not exactly 100%, so after they mixed with the indo Europeans Sweden became a mix of dark hair and blond hair, where as previously it was only blonde

I'm pretty sure that guy sold me my last car

Traditionally in Europe, would we consider brown hair was considered dark blonde.

Mine too, but I think we should be looking at Corded Ware not Yamnaya

I dont think there was EVER a founder population of purely blonde people, like platinum blonde.
In my opinion its always been somewhat mixed ranging in colours

Blond hair is from N.

lmao mutt fantasy

this is what swedes believe cause they've become so mutted

No, its the only thing that makes sense. Now that we know about Yamnaya/Corded Ware and somewhat what they looked like, it makes zero sense that there was ever this Nordic super masterrace the nazis imagined.

No. Lots of Russians with R1a or R1b with blond hair.

russian men with blond hair

duckduckgo.com/?q=russian men with blond hair&t=brave&iar=images

fingolian types from ural mountains don't have blond hair.

He looks like that uncle who constantly hugs and touches you a lot

Someone told me that from Sweden and Finland. That what we consider brown hair in America is considered dark blonde. Not black hair. Germanic brown hair. For example, when I was a child I had lightly red brownish blonde hair that turned darker. It’s now brown, but if you look at my arm hair, it has a reddish tint to it.

>russian women with blond hair

duckduckgo.com/?q=russian women with blond hair&t=brave&iar=images

that's cause it originally came from ancient siberian hunter gatherers (ancient north eurasians) and in 15k years it has had time to drift to many populations. those dark uralic people share next to zero ancestry with finns. the earliest known occurrence of the blond hair gene is from Afontova Gora, central Siberia. This original population of blond people evolved near Lake Baikal. These are the ancestors of both the Yamnaya/eastern hunter gatherers and North Siberian peoples. Why did they evolve light hair? due to being far north and vitamin D. If a population does not have light hair they are not native to the far north or subsisted nearly entirely from marine animals (vit D source).

idk i have had the opposite experience where shades of brown that we consider brown are called blond by americans. here I usually only hear ppl call very light shades blond.

The same thing can said about skin and eye color concerning vitamin D deficiency and adaptive mutations.

I dont think there was EVER a founder population of purely blonde people

Funnelbeakers 6000 years ago

Before indo Europeans Scandinavia had more fingolians too it was about 70% funnelbeaker and 30% fingolians

Germanic languages come from the funnel beaker culture too
Funnelbeaker language (native Scandinavian)+ indo European loan words = proto Germanic

No. Lots of Russians with R1a or R1b with blond hair.

Today everyone is mixed looking at haplogroups for race is only useful before those populations interacted with each other

Kurgans/Yamnayas were pure R, funnelbeakers a mix of I and N, (some G C H J etc), but before that there was a time where I and N had not interacted yet

Haplogroups are useful for:

paternity tests

tracing the ancestry and movements of populations with subclads

looking at racial characteristics but only if a group is pure and only has one haplogroup, (or two that only exist in that people)

you need to take into consideration that the range of these peoples is enormous both in time and space and many of the more southern populations would have been much darker or mixed with darker peoples. northern europe has been very light for a very long time and the thing of dark hunter gatherers is a myth if we are talking about Scandinavia. the light eyes and light hair has been there a very long time. i also dont know wtf youre talking about cause theres entire regions of Sweden that are platinum blond ppl if we dont count niggers or ppl who have mixed with Mediterranean ppl or whatever

I’ve seen Scandinavian people with dark hair and blonde hair. Both have very similar bone structure and phenotypical expression outside of the hair color. Do you consider northern Germanic people from the Dutch Netherlands, Scandinavian?

There is 0 blond people in India or Iran and the aryan invasions happened several centuries after the yamnayas had already moved into Europe

All the yamnaya bodies have returned dark hair, always brown red or sometimes crow black like goth girls

Which makes sense since yamnayas and ougric uralic populations are all asiatic, while we know the people who lived in Europe especially Northern Europe before the indo European invasions were blond

No clue, just repeating what I heard from your country men. I never thought about it until I heard it from them.

I’ve seen Scandinavian people with dark hair and blonde hair. Both have very similar bone structure and phenotypical expression outside of the hair color.

Do you understand that the mixing happened several thousand years ago and that all genes are randomized today?

It’s not like you have all the facial feature of the race which had blond hairs if you just have blond hairs

Even half black people sometimes have blue eyes, are you going to tell me mulatos have the bone structure of your typical Norwegian?

people with dark features are like octaroons or whatever. when two populations mix for generations you can have someone who is 97% aryan but has dark eyes and hair. however mostly it is a sign of more recent mixing and the lighter the more purely aryan someone is, as you will notice from most of the ppl having the most aryan bone structure also being the lightest, if you walk around some crowd.

add some receding hair and looks just like my uncle
POLSKA GUROM

hes estonian

Scandinavians have a higher yamnaya percentage than most euros iam sure. Would be interesting if this means, several scandi cultural aspects were actually from indo europeans

I definitely understand that I was just curious to see what the other anon thought. Modernization and mixing has occurred over the last several thousand years. See picrel, yellow is Europe and Asia.

I know several guys who look like this

Ye kind of thought about balkanoids face structure

people with dark features are like octaroons or whatever.

You write like a petulant child. There are 100% pure Europeans that have dark hair, lmao.

Yep, op's guy looks like one of typical balkanoid kinds (there are several types)

Blonde hair genes have an interesting origin, we still dont understand where these special features came from(heard some yamnaya had blonde recessive genes) but yamnaya facial structures do still seem prominent(i have a similar jaw like op picture)

Fuck I am literally him

I said these were adaptive mutations due to vitamin C deficiencies, I didn’t say that other deformed dysgenic mixed races haven’t been mixed with European dispora inheriting these traits. Only a fucking idiot would think or suggest something such a simple minded.

Same. I’m 6’2” and 205 pounds at around 15% body fat. Extremely strong compared to Anglos and other races. I was able to best a jujitsu instructor with brute force strength, kek.

how did they reconstruct his mustache

they literally know where they come from. it comes from ancient north eurasians who gave it to eastern hunter gatherers (finnobaltic ppl) who gave it to scandinavian hunter gatherers and yamnayas (who were like mixed race ancient north eurasian and ancient armenian) who in turn raped all of Europe

no you are a dark monkey ook ook

they just make it up

Heard some right winger say that native euro agrarian society was more communitarian etc and that it was the yamaya who brought hierarchy and "patriachy". What are your thoufhts on the cultural impact of the steppe?

Blond hair and blue eyes were inherited by the Yamnaya after they have raped the shit out of Anatolian Farmers and Corded Ware peoples forming the modern Europeans as we know them

Definitely not but that’s what a child raised on Anon Babble might believe. I have grey eyes.

Yamnaya were undoubtably extremly patriarchal. The way they replaced the male haplogroups suggest it was a male invasion. I doubt WHG were matriarchal or anything like this. Just way more pacified from farming for so long, whereas Yamnaya were hardened steppe roamers

Here’s a better one in the light that shows my skin color. It’s pale and reddish.

what does this say about me?

Do you think red hair has a different origin than blonde?

Yiannis 100,000 BC

Ey, looks like my next door neighbor Tim.
He's an ex engineer who turned into a Hippy.
Literally has a fertility shrine in his hallway.
Him and his missus home school their kids.
They're the best kind of odd people.

them being matriarchal and peaceful sounds like some revisionist gayness. like other dude said it was probably just the eternal raiding nomad vs settled people dynamic

Only steppe pastoralists are human

It’s really tragic the way turkey has so little steppe DNA, you recognise steppe supremacy too, but you have almost no Turkic DNA, you are all Greeks, Anatolian, Armenians, kurds, who speak a steppe language but are not turkmen at all :(

interesting that would make sense

yeah so youre white with half nigger hair idk why you're so uppity women like dark hair

The Iron Sheik?

Looks based.

Its kinds funny how the modern euro, a mix of mostly yamnaya males and whg and anatolian farmer conquered the world

no it's not

that's cause it originally came from ancient siberian hunter gatherers

all of them had dark black hair

not a single ancient north eurasian or direct descendant had blonde hair
in fact all of them had very very dark hair and their skin/eyes were also very very dark

the oldest DNA samples we have of blonde humans are all from neolithic europe

Imagine trying to explain trannies and niggers to this guy

No one’s uppity about anything. I’m losing my hair, and don’t care what people think of me, especially a child on Anon Babble that thinks Europeans with dark hair are part nigger.

Wr are also talking about recessive genes, leaving aside the stronger facial resemblense

Time to go back to Turkey then, Özman.

literally untrue

Ancient DNA analysis (ADNA) has revealed that the oldest fossil known to carry the mutated allele rs12821256 of the KITLG gene, which is responsible for blond hair in modern Europeans, is a 17,000 year old Ancient North Eurasian specimen from Afontova Gora in Southern Siberia.[31][a 1]

Arent multiple genes responsible for blonde hair? Just one gene wouldnt be enough to turn your hair blonde

How can ai know what face to put on what skull? Its just random, right?

How does ai figure out the thickness of the lips for instance? You cant determin that from a skull

black hair evolved in Africa. there's nothing shameful about it. embrace it. love yourself. look in the mirror and say

ook ook ook

blonde hair is highly polygenic, there's no single blonde hair gene, multiple contribute
blue/light eyes is simpler as one gene does much of the work

The more protracted the skill the thicker the lips ;)

I have brown hair that was reddish blonde as a child. My body hair is blonde and brown.

Its really fascinating how yamnaya feautures like long faces, sharp jawlines and prob height mixed with rare traits like blonde hair and blue eyes. Its actually crazy

Gerasimov facial reconstruction

skull

my ancestor

When I think of Early European farmers, I imagine those skinny hunched backed Scorchlanders in Kenshi kek

What if his methods are bullshit and the faces he put on skulls are nothing like them? How can we truly know?

its enough to lighten hair a lot cause it directly reduces hair follice melanin production, but other additional genes exist. for eyes iirc theres only one gene that really matters but youre right for hair its more complex

Who cares? They’re best estimates. What’s your point? What are you concerned about, accuracy?

Obviously its never gonna be 100% but you can do the process on people who have died and that we have photos off to see how closely it matches

Gerasimov reconstructed(with dubious methods) the soft tissue many years ago, the reconstruction IIRC is done by some paki or jeet who always makes them look paki or jeet

There is no outta Africa, you all came out of Australia.

yes how could we know whether our ancestors had big nigger lips... truly a mystery

YAMYAM

Do you know bas rutten, does look he a dark nordic guy, I've always wondered

bugday

Yes. I dont believe you can reconstruct a face with only a skull.

People have different thickness in musle, fat, tendens, all variables resulting in different face. And how do you form the lips? A skull doesnt determin lip thickness.

Its pseudoscience like covid is my point

These depictions are totally random and not at all what people would have looked like

blonde hair is a polygenetic trait first found in only neolithic europeans
so saying "blonde hair comes from X" is misleading
literally copy pasted from wikipedia
that mutation of the KITLG gene does not give one blonde hair, it is simply ASSOCIATED with blonde hair

how come every single DNA sample with mostly ANE ancestry we have is predicted to be from a human with charcoal black hair?
Only very western admixed "EHG"'s are predicted to have had "brown hair", so not even blonde but already much lighter than their ANE ancestors
why is that?
how come the oldest ginger in the archeogenetic record is an anatolian neolithic farmer?
how come the oldest blondes are found around the baltic and not siberia?
how come the most blonde groups of humans before the iron age is a group overwhelmingly descended from anatolian farmers with some western hunter gatherer ancestry?
how come not a single ancient or modern amerindian(who have far more ANE ancestry than any european) is predicted to have had or has blonde hair?
how come pic related is the oldest DNA sample from a human predicted to have had blonde hair?

Arent multiple genes responsible for blonde hair?

yes
same for skin and eyes
yamnaya were overwhelmingly black/dark brown haired and brown/hazel eyed
no, that mutation of the KITLG gene is not enough to lighten hair
every single quality ANE sample we have show up with an 99% likelihood of black, so not even brown, hair

I have big nigger lips, but 100% white. It doesnt mean shit

Agreed.

shut up you med nigger