AAAAHHH I SHOULD'VE USED MY FREEWILL TO LISTEN TO MY CONSCIENCE, NOW I'M BURNING FOREVER!!

Evil is an artificial construct, bud. Nature itself isn't evil, neither is the world. All that evil you experience is just other people exercising their free will by doing it.

did your conscience agree with that statement and with you sharing it?

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Coz God's infinite and sin is first and foremost an offence against him

Simple as

Why do you assume you're just entitled to paradise?

Why do you assume you're just entitled to paradise?

because of their belief in their own selves or because of pride.

Because all crimes ring out for eternity whether you like it or not. Echoes never die until they bounce back at you. On a completely unrelated note. Have you ever noticed how a crescent looks kind of like a horse shoe?
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Why am I not entitled to simple nonexistence? I don't remember asking to be created. And if my creation is entirely his idea, shouldn't he take at least some responsibility for it?

Guys, it's a story. It's not real.
When you die, your consciousness disappears, and your body is put in a box in the ground.
That's it.
Dogs are conscious, elephants are conscious, mice are conscious. There's not animal hell and animal heaven.
Your purpose as a human is no different to a dog or elephant or mouse.
You grow, you reproduce, you nurture your young, and you die.
It's OK

I'll rape that faggot god and use his corpse to fertilize the soil of MY paradise.

This. Though traitors and those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit will completely disintegrate in their second death.

fuck your religion shit, christian retard

It's not eternity like the kike bible would have you beleive. It is only as long as you need to feel all the pain you have inflicted on others and to repent. Some people can't repent and are stuck forever.

SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT.
The understanding for how bastardized this concept is, is ridiculous that it appears in the Bible. Just like ants roaches clouds and space god made everything. As a human with the ability to problem solve and infer that's retarded to assume you have the authority of god when you walk, breathe, and bleed just like the rest of us. There's no greater authority than waiting for smite. We are the karmatic biberations that ripple out ourselves. Reaction is proven. But that doesn't mean we are the container for the water. May just be the water in the container. Lord knows if we were the container life would be different.
SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT

It did. You are ignorant to believe in desert fairy tales.

Jews lied when they wrote down the old testament. They self inserted themselves into older civilization myths.

I listened to my conscience, it said: Heil Hitler!

satan and his angels are eternal beings and so is the human soul

All lies. Have an element of truth, and the larger the lie, the larger and often more dangerous that truth. Forgotten lies are merely truths about to burst forth.

youtu.be/MChIvjLGyfQ

You are describing omnipotence, not free will. A created being can't decide if it should be created or not, that's a paradox.

If it's a story. Can you explain the vastness and depth of the first sentence of the Bible. It's nothing to do with me and my human experience and this is the opener. Shut the fuck up your schism. You're trying to degrade and infiltrate the souls of innocent people.

you could kill your own self and do that right now since you obviously don't believe in the concept of eternal conscience but you haven't because your preference don't want you to. you exist in this world because you wanted to or you chose to.

Mark 14:21 For the Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.”

Most spirits and demons are monsters, absolutely horrendous things who believe in the 2nd death and routinly 'cull' people.

If you have a deterministic mind, you'll come to the bhuddas conclusion that to know all is to forgive all. This is something spirits and demons DO NOT GET. It requires a deterministic mind, and renders their punishment for 'crimes' as utterly barbaric.

Call me when the spiritual world gets its shit together and stops blaming humans for their doings. Humans are allowed to make mistakes, it's part of growing up.

If you want to know what the correct way to think is, read warhammer 40k. Not the recent crap mind you.

Spirits and demons, most of them are so morally flawed that they can't even humanely kill someone, it has to be fire, and torment and pain.

Just plain nasty things, most of them. The good ones are great though.

I haven't because I don't believe in gods at all. Kinda hard believe yours is the only right one when there are over 4000 documented ones, spread over a timeframe and location pool vastly exceeding the entire existence of christianity.

Can you explain the vastness and depth of the first sentence of the Bible

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

That is neither vast nor deep. It's a statement depicting itself as fact with no evidence to back itself up.

The sad reality is that being dead feels exactly like you felt 5 years before you were born.

i'm soulless

midwit take

"In the beginning there was the word, and the word became, flesh."

Gaia's meat and matter. Grading has nothing to do with it. Infiltration, no matter how small, is the goal of the serpent. Starting to see? There are no innocents. The word is wrong. Purity. Pure people. That's the secret. All these "in" words. Meaningless drivel. People have forgotten how to talk, and that is a fatal thing for a language. Anyways. I won't bore you with the details. Let's just say, "Things are about to get loud now."

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why should finite crimes be punishable by infinite punishment and torment??

Because they are committed against an infinite Being.

of

etymonline.com/search?q=of

"away, away from,"

Say you are part god instead.

why shouldn't they?

It is counter to justice and thus counter to God.
But you don't worship God. You worship the tribal demon of the jews aka yahweh. You are a demon worshiper like all abrahamists.

are you God?

I'm closer to God than you are demon worshiper.

hi Burning Forever. My name's Fergus

All crimes against God are infinite crimes because God's dignity is infinite

Non sequitur
If anything the opposite is true
Any sin by a puny mortal against an infinite eternal God is inconsequential to a laughable extent. Like a microscopic bed mite nipping my toe.

Because all crimes ring out for eternity whether you like it or not.

Unless a scapegoat blood magick human sacrifice of a jew mashiach somehow cancels them out?

Consciousness continues fren.

Consciousness continues fren.

Even after the second death?

Christopher Hitchens made a great point out this. Said that it was immoral for someone else to take the sins of the person. Although that's assuming the world isnt run be demons and spirits that fuck people over, in that case who cares and thanks for the help.

How is a raven like a writing desk? I would ask Alice if she knows.
youtu.be/P_9ggYhM4yA

the second death?

Yahwehist nonsense

Great in what sense?

Sin must be atoned for. If someone hurts someone you love and that person is sent before a judge, and the judge releases this person without punishment, is that a good judge or a bad judge?

Kind, understanding, empathetic.

dad jokes

Non-nigger status confirmed.

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no actual arguments

Unsurprising.

Why do you condemned Jesus Christ then?

This isn't simply a test, this is it

it was immoral for someone else to take the sins of the person

Scapegoat rites of sin transfer are immoral yes
CH was a materialist midwit though

Sin must be atoned for.

Perhaps but no finite crime deserves infinite punishment

You are made by God, not of God.

We are creatures, made equally low under the infinitude of God.

free will

No such thing, god already knows everything everyone is going to do. Free will existing is especially ridiculous in the christian world view.

mashiach

How's the weather in tel aviv?

The world belongs to its creator. That is Justice.

Why do you condemned Jesus Christ then?

Had experiances with his spirit, called me a moron, odd considering it says in the bible that those who call others fools run the risk of hellfire. Plus i seem to automatically drift away from him. Must be evil i guess.

You are made by God, not of God.

You couldn't possibly know that

You are a moron.

Nope, had closer experiances than you, deal with it you stupid faggot.

How's the weather in tel aviv?

You're the yahwehcuck jew worshiper here
I'm Anglo Saxon
Fuck your kike demongod and fuck your torah

Sounds cucked and bitch-pilled desu senpai

Prove that you are smart. You can't.

rape once

you're infinitely a rapist

kill once

you're infinitely a murderer

OP is infinitely a faggot

Supernatutal made a better Hell than you.

youtu.be/eWkkxgRi3fE?si=he9JcsAA_CXGpZNK

But we know free will exists because you're itt choosing to be a massive faggot.
You could stop at any time. But you won't.

Regretting mistakes doesn't have any benefit. Stop indulging in regret. It gets you nowhere. Millions of humans live through hell every day on Earth. It's 100% just that the miserable beggar Lazarus gets to dine in heaven while the rich men who lived lives of comfort and pleasure endure some suffering in the afterlife to make up for it.

I'm glad I can proudly say I'm an anthropologist and not a theologian because it's the second sentence you lazy scum.
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Itt

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

I will check these videos out later. But this is the point that I meant to get at. The quest of language and the journey of understanding lost to monkey slaves. The first phrases is to understand and define a beginning that's too easy for that guy I'm guessing.

the opening lines of the Bible are literally plagerized from the Enuma Elish, the Babylonian creation myth, just like much of the rest of Genesis and the cosmology it describes is (world being a flat surface shielded from the watery deeps where the gods reside by the firmanent) as well as things like man being made from clay/soil, humanity losing immortality due to a serpent, a wild man living amongst the animals becoming civillized and the flood story - even god fighting Leviathan (totally not Tiamat)- all being taken the other Babylonian mythology like the Epic of Gilgamesh.
The Bible is like this because the first few books of the old testament were written when the jews were in captivity in Babylon and, being the unimaginitive fuckers that they were, they simply just copied the mythology around them. Even the way Yahweh is described as being a bearded king on a fiery chariot-throne in the book of Daniel is just copied from Marduk.

Since Genesis and the theology it establishes is absolutely crucial to the rest of the Bible - and is fundamental to Jesus and his teachings - it becomes literally impossible to believe any of it once you realize this and find out the actual origin of it. The whole thing - all of Abrahamic religion - is instantly discredited and debunked the moment you find out that it's just some plagiarised bullshit like this.

No. Because we are made in the image of God, and is supposed to be like him. We were never supposed to sin. You essentially saying you are a puny mortal and that God's grace and love is not big enough for him to care about us is wrong. Every aspect about God could be said to be infinite, his love and compassion for mankind. Even his wrath for sin. Etc. Bed mite are not made by man in the image of man.

God punishes his creations with eternal torture for acting on their own after giving them free will

Doesn't sound like a very nice dude to me, does he to you? Certainly not anyone I'd want to worship...

Certainly not someone I want to mess with. Yet. Here you are.

False, fag.
To sin against that with infinite dignity is an infinite sin by definition.

A FUCKING LEAF

Exactly right
Christ commands us to "Be perfect, as your Father in Heaven is perfect."
No sin can be tolerated. Every sin is an infinitely great offense, even thinking with lust in your mind for one second.
In the Judgment, every last sin -- millions of micro-sins -- will be read off for every last person. The Judgment Day may feel like sextillions of years, though it is but a day.

mess with

Can you truly do any wrong in a world he created for you to do things in? I don't believe so. Basically entrapment.

Kike spergs out when found

Many such cases.

How's ruining the UK going?

The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. There is a reason why none of you can beat me in a chess match.

made in the image of God, and is supposed to be like him.

Semite drivel

We were never supposed to sin

More drivel

You essentially saying you are a puny mortal and that God's grace and love is not big enough for him to care about us is wrong.

I'm not saying that - essentially or otherwise

Even his wrath

You are a semite demon worshiper

Incorrecf
You demented yahwehcuck demon worshipers can't into basic logos, ethos or telos.

why shouldn't they?

Because it's a perversion of the original religion Christianity was adapted from, Buddhism, where you get out of hell (consequentially described exactly the same way Christian hell is described, 1000 years earlier)

Create sentient beings to torture them for eternity? This act can only be described as obligate evil. Any entity taking this course will suffer in avici hell for kotis of eons of kalpas, before being reborn as a preta for kotis of eons of kalpas.

Be Anglo Saxon

reject jewish god

get called a jew by a judaised, circumcised, transjew christfag mutt in ZOG

Lmao, even

revolt against basedgod

yeah ok, Im thinkin Lucifer was based

What a tragic response. Best of luck to you fool.

Michael > Lucifer

mess with

His face will be a mess when I'm through with him.

Really only the first few minutes would hurt. If you're burned long enough but magically can't die, all your nerves would fuse.

mine did the same thing. interesting

You will have nothing, and you will seethe.

You will have nothing, and you will seethe.

Yeah that's why ima fuck yahweh up. Make him my bitch definitively.

Strength itself came from God. You have nothing to threathen God.

Christopher Hitchens' bit about how the new testament God is actually way more evil than the old testament one because of hell and the human sacrifice and how if you had been there at the time in the first century that trying to stop Jesus from being killed would have been the right thing to do is one of my favorite Hitchens bits.
It's genuinely strange when you actually think about how Christianity is essentially the celebration of a human sacrifice; a real person being tortured to death - and millions of people believe in this and think it's good and sane.

imaginary lava place where baddies go after death

Sounds like a childrens story but there are adults on this board right now who believe this shit.

The Winchester brothers managed to beat God. So can I.

Pitiful yahwehcuck cope

God exists because it was written in le bible!

who wrote the bible? well just some human beings of course.....

Endow us with abilities of logic and reason

'Bro you're not supposed to actually use them'

God is above All.

NOOOOOOOO BELIEVE IN MY DESERT GOBBEDLYGOOK OR YOU WILL BE TORTURED FOREVER

Imagine falling for this bullshit, brainwashed subhuman garbage go worship your sandnigger quietly in your corner.

yahweh

god

He's a lil bitch egregore of the jews that bit off more than it could chew and choked to death. Pathetic end to a pathetic "god".

Nice! This exactly what I was hoping for.

He wasn't above the Winchesters and the Shadow.

God is the creator of All. It is within reason that God can do whatever with it. All authority belonga to God.

At the end of the day. God always win

We can therefore conclude that everything within the realm of God is within the domain and consent of God, ergo, as long as you do anything, it is impossible to defy God's will, because he's too powerful to defy.
Ergo, what you call 'sinning' is an inherent design choice on behalf of God and should not be analyzed as 'punishable' because God can simply make it impossible to sin while also preserving your free will.
You don't understand God.

Every aspect about God could be said to be infinite

Sooo...that includes the bad ones too, right?

No shit retard. He "wins" by defult because he made the game according to your retarded doctrine. Is this supposed to be a flex?

God is the creator of All.

Yahweh isn't God

Obviously. I still cannot beat the AI in chess. No man is capable of that. All of you are retards.

Not this time. He's just a regular human now. Jack is the new "God."

After all that jazz about the old gods practicing human sacrifice, only to do so themselves.

I would simply not play AI in chess.

God will always be God.

God is as is and it is not up to humans to interpret or understand him from their perspective, unless he wants to be interpreted or understood, in which case he does so unequivocally and undeniably, not through jewish books in jewish deserts.

You only believe you're playing chess. In truth, you are a pawn on my board, child. You will move and act as I command.

Because you are a loser. I challenged God to a chess match, and God answered to Me. I lost. Obviously.

God will always be God.

Correct. Yahweh isn't God.

I lost. Obviously.

As I have set forth for you, chess piece.

I challenged god to a dance off. I'm still waiting for him to show up.

I am still greater than all of you. Hierarchically speaking.

same
he keeps bitching out

my feet hurt

my knees are bad

what a nigger

playing chess with imaginary friends

and losing

In the future these people will be sent to mental asylums for surgery and proper medication. At least I hope so.

Anon Babbleatheism is SEETHING because they are losing and Christianity is BACK, BABY (despite never really have gone anywhere)

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The name matters not. God cannot be constrained by a name. You hate the creator deity, because you are a retard incapable of creation.

He's just high on shrooms.
Arguing with immaginary firneds is common on some drugs.

shitskin

religious

Like pottery

do you sometimes feel sorry for you conscience? was your conscience 5 years ago the same it is right now? does some things that you consider to be evil 5 years ago seem to be okay or even good now?

God came to me in a dream. Showing that all my action is within expectation.

dont worry you will get a very nice crispy "tan" darker than mine, for all eternity :-^)
I really hope not though!

The name matters not.

I disagree. Conflating God with a malignant semitic demon is supreme blasphemy.

You hate the creator deity

I do not. Yahweh isn't God.

God is beyond imagination.

My conscience tells me that any ideology which must spread at the point of a sword or the muzzle of a gun is probably evil.

Why are Evangelicals insane?

Please cite the bible verse describing any detail of "hell" other than absence of God.
And to preempt, no, Valley of Gehenna/Hinnom refers purely to physical burning of a material body.

Explain why just because God created humans (or even anything) this means he has, or should have, absolute authority over us to do whatever he wants to us. No religious person can ever actually explain this point and always just assumes it as part of the premise by default as if it's self-evident.
When a parent creates a child, just the mere fact that they created the child doesn't mean they have absolute authority over the child and are allowed to abuse and torture them or anything else (abusive parents do use this logic a lot though actually, just like Yahweh in the Bible).

The mere fact that God created us doesn't actually give him absolute authority over us by default and it especially doesn't mean humans should love him by default just based on this fact if it's where he's also torturing us and creating us in states of suffering on purpose.
Of course there is thankfully zero evidence that this God as described is real and was just some small-time desert god in a pantheon in Palestine a few thousand years ago that broke containment due to random historical happenstance but if said scenario actually was real, it'd just be existentially horrifying to be trapped in the simulation of some abusive narcissistic divine parent like that.

Everyone deserves hell. The difference is some people put their trust in Jesus to save them and some people trust in their own goodness when they're a sinner that deserves hell.

Can your God survive a battle royale?

Christianity is the religion of the raped. You must turn the other cheek, you must suffer for others, you must give to others while asking for nothing in return. What do you get? A vague promise of an afterlife that will totally rule for eternity that conveniently happens the moment you aren't able to tell others about it anymore. They told you to sacrifice because they want to enjoy your sacrifice while they are still on earth.
The raped.

Everyone deserves hell. The difference is some people put their trust in Jesus to save them and some people trust in their own goodness when they're a sinner that deserves hell.

Very poisonous and Jewish doctrine and not what Jesus taught at all.

God is above your puerility.

Patriots let it go. I have more pussy, cash, and coke than any human can use in a lifetime. Pops will be dead soon and I have found his ten percent stash in a cave on our property in Maryland along with all the dead bodies the Clintons have put there for years. The stench is not to be believed. Hell Bill Clinton killed more women than you can believe and cut them up and ate them. So no one is perfect so have a good time and remember dick sucking nigger trannie anal sex is best sex. Think I will go get a Biden women for a few hours of sexual pleasure. We keep them in cages here in Maryland. Have a great day Patriots. H. Dark Maga. The afterlife? Fuck it and fuck your way to paradise.

You avoided my question. I can fight every single humans on earth and WIN. Because my God is greater than ALL.

Ok schizo.

God's a manmade object, so i can be as much as any other who pretends to represent yhe will of a god or God.

I am the chosen one of God.

They aren't you just stop existing if your bad if your good you become part of whatever god you belong to

Hell is very easy to make.

You are a dick sucking nigger pedophile who takes it up the ass, fucks your kids and eats dead babies. Disgusting. H

It was your parents free will to do all that

In all Heaven and Earth
In all that existed and will exist for all of Eternity

I, alone, am the chosen ONE of God.

You are you will get exactly that if you don't search for God when you die

It just so happens that we're eternal beings and we're going to spend an eternity somewhere. Either we accept Christ's atonement and forgiveness, or we pay for our own sins.

God doesn't exist.
No need to stress about it.

The other guy who pretended this part ended up crucified, so maybe not the best megalomania to adopt.

Your mother and sister said the same thing when I fucked them in the ass last night. At least your dog was quiet and took it like a hero. Your family is nothing but nigger trash to be pissed on and fucked in the ass. Disgusting. H

Finding commonalities between cultures regarding existencial matters should reinforce our beliefs, not invalidate them.

No when you die if you are a bad person you will not be able to join God and you will simply disappear.
If you do search for him and manage to become part of him again you will get immortality, a sense of Peace you have never known in life,and you will be able to experience the universe from the perspective of a celestial.

we accept Christ's atonement

Nigger voodoo tripe

we pay for our own sins.

Probably
Ergo don't be a cunt or you'll regret it later - karma's a bitch
Pretty simple

To die in God name is a great honor. Alas. There is none who is capable of Killing Me. As I am the ONE who stand above all.

according to the new testament there is no eternal hell/suffering. it's a lake of fire and a second death that's permanent. it's still a painful death, but it's not eternal torture

cbf quoting scripture but it's all there

On earth sure while you are alive.
Your soul won't find anything but nothingness or God.

Very poisonous and Jewish doctrine and not what Jesus taught at all.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Psalm 14:2-3
The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Galatians 3:10
Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

John 14:6
I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Galatians 2:21
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

John 3:16-18
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

1 Cor. 15:3-4
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures:

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Now quoting anime?

Yep, this tard is definitively a larper thats just here to wate our time adn troll.
There is zero value in talking to him.

*Existential.

You're a fucking retard, a prick, an idiot.

Yet. You will continue to make anti-christ threads. To bait Me. It is ineviable.

let me quote my jew book

lolo

Name a man who is smarter than Me.

god dislikes sin

god makes everyone a sinner as the default position

christcucks think that's a just, loving god.

a just loving god, who's word(as per the bible) is that only salvation is for the jews

hmm..

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Romans 3:19-28
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 4:3-7
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

this nigga can't fathom occam's razor
hell is taken from some indian myth btw have fun with your marvel mashup movie of a religion

this 2000 year old book is just like suicide squad bro!!!! this one is too!!! this must mean its real!!!

No you dont understand, some jews said some shit 2000 years ago and now we all have to believe in the dick cutting jewish death cult or we'll go to hell(because salvation is only for the jews, as per jesus himself)

Solve this smart guy

Romans 10:3-4
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Ephesians 1:12-14
That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Bad thing happen mean God doesn't exist is literally child tier thinking.

im not reading all of your guys' replies that led to this but this is rhe most retarded post ive seen on this app nigga no one is solving that

why shouldn't they?

Because they're temporary? What level of slavish devotion is necessary to ask such a stupid question?

are you God?

I'm not an abusive absentee father, no.

Math? Explain this.

1/3 = 0.333
2/3 = 0.666
3/3 = 0.999

Sin must be atoned for

Only a psychopath would claim sin on an newborn baby. it's the most deranged thing I've ever heard. No, the newborn has no sin, I have to draw the line.

Do you really think Jews believe in faith alone and dont trust in works of the law? What alternate dimension do you live in where you think jews would rather you not do works

Including black baby?

I feel like free will exists, but then I've seen barrages of synchronicity that could hardly be coincidence. Perhaps a combination of free will with determinism when the gods deem necessary. Anyway there's a typo in your image, "challenger".

What if God is the ground of my being, my consciousness? What if my telos is to become like God?

Free will exists, like there's many paths available and we choose the one we walk

That's the truth, libertarian free will entails that even if you're a faggot you can chose not to act that way despite everything being as before.

By that logic, he was a faggot only once.

all being taken the other Babylonian mythology like the Epic of Gilgamesh.

Aphrodite affirmed that's made up, too. (Ishtar/Innana seems to be based on her, but altered over time so she's unrecognizable, so I asked about that.)

Weird claim I know, especially if you're an atheist, but it happened.

masturbation is immoral

but i'm still a moral person according to my standard despite being a chronic masturbator

at least you consider lust to be evil, the next step is admitting that you're evil for being a coomer and repenting from it

Wh ois this "You" you speak of, you shizio?

Or do you truly belive everyone who disagrees with you on something is the same person?
Never made an anti-christ theead before, but I might start now if it triggers you that much.

You're not the first religious person to say this as a response but you are saying this simply because you probably haven't actually read the texts themselves and seen how 1:1 it is in this case. The fact that the time period of when Genesis was written - when the jews were in Babylon - lines up perfectly with how 1:1 many parts of the text are with Babylonian mythology is too striking. Furthermore, said commonalities are fact-claims about actual things like cosmology, the origins of humans etc which are obviously starkly contradicted with what is now known about things like the universe, the shape of the Earth and genetic etc.
The claims of all Abrahamic religions absolutely hinge on the events in Genesis having been literal and real and since they so clearly are not, and were so clearly copied from other mythologies in the same time period, it instantly invalidates the entirety of all of Abrahamic religion and its claims. Some people cope and say it was all allegories and that they just follow Jesus' teachings but these people have clearly never the Gospels because it's very clear that Jesus thinks Genesis literally happened and the whole concept of sin relies on it having actually happened.

The fact Abrahamic religions ONLY came out of that region which had Babylonian and Canaanite mythology there - and didn't appear anywhere else in some form, is in and of itself evidence that it was just made up in that region and isn't some special universal truth that God really wanted humanity to know about.
The fact that the character of Yahweh and the customs and beliefs themselves so clearly match and are suited specifically for that one desert region (such as intricate commandments on donkeys, stories of talking donkeys and snakes endemic to that region, the fruit of knowledge being a fruit from that region, Eden being described as being in that region, Yahweh's personality being like an angry king etc.) also prove it was just made up there.

It's not punishment. It's refusing to walk through an open door to safety.

People on your side. Obciously. Those that doubt the existence of GOD.

I just scheduled your deletion. Your usefulness has ended.

It's a test that you can fail.
And btw he didn't give you free will you asked for it

God creates man

God tests man

God punishes his creations after giving them free will

Set up to fail. Not a real God.

Yes, although if we're honest, we've all hurt someone and we all have been hurt by others. Jesus offers us His forgiveness.

Did you miss the part where he put you in paradise and you bailed?

Ishtar/Innana seems to be based on her

no, it's the other way around, Inanna/Ishtar predates Aphrodite since ancient Sumeria (that later became Babylonia after the Akkadian and Assyrian empires) was way before ancient Greece being one of the very first human civilisations (that we know of)
in fact, Aphrodite was imported into Greece from the Phoenician goddess Astarte which came from Ishtar

Evil is an artificial construct

All that evil you experience is just other people exercising their free will by doing it

And by doing "it" you feel the evil? and you still think it's an artificial construct? nature by itself is evil and unapologizing. You argument that nature is not evil because animals are incapable of understanding evil (although there is evidence that many animals do understand pain, suffering and what is right from wrong) somebody could make a similar argument that one self doesn't exist because lower organisms cannot understand the concept of ego. You can make many similar arguments, just because an organism is not wired to detect some sort of thing it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it's just that organism hasn't evolved the need to detect for such things. Sunlight still exists even if you're a mole.

humanity doesn't ask for free will from Yahweh in Genesis, they don't even know what the fruit does until the snake explains it to them (Yahweh is also apparently unaware that they've disobeyed him and eaten the fruit until he walks - yes, walks, the text says he walks into the garden like a regular guy - back there and they tell him)
the reason they are punished for eating it in the text is just the fact that they disobeyed him - free will is actually never brought up in the text at all and before eating the fruit - which gives you 'the knowledge of good and evil' - they didn't know right from wrong (which makes the whole idea that they sinned and had free will to choose to eat the fruit kind of paradoxical and contradictory)
none of us were there in the imaginary garden that wasn't actually there near the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in the middle east which was totally not just copied from the garden of the Sumerian gods and named after the Sumerian word Edin, and the concept of inherited sins of your ancestors is absurd

Are black babies pure or not?

The free will really is an interesting concept and if looking at it with religious texts in mind, in my eyes it's a way of saying that there are two states of being, one is free will and the other is not. Is free will connected to the mind or is it connected to the ability to excercise the thought? like having a physical body.

Free will is merely your inability to calculated Chaos.

no, it's the other way around, Inanna/Ishtar predates Aphrodite

Here's the thing, she claims to be Aphrodite and not Ishtar, and agreed with my supposition that she visited Sumeria (Or what it was before) but the stories regarding her visit--whether a material visit or not I don't know, she didn't visit me materially--changed over time. The preserved Greek representations are more accurate. Namely, her name.

I'm telling you it's your choice to come and live as a human on this planet nobody is forcing you into existence.
You could chose nonexistence at any time.

Nobody is forcing you into anything the moment your soul entered a human body was your choice

Explain more, what do you mean by inability?
Imagine killing yourself and then remember that you actually chose to live that way and get mad that you killed yourself and then go back to only kill yourself again, lmao

Your desert demon was unknown on earth for 5 billion years, then it was unknown to humans for 1.5 million years. Your pathetic cacodemon wasn't even powerful enough to make himself known to large parts of the world before 5 centuries ago. Still, to this day, many people have not heard about rabbi yahshuah. It really seems to me that for being the "creator of the universe" he is awfully incompetent.

I was on the other side. I think the uiniverse follows D and D rules for the afterlife, what you believe decides where you go. I was in a magical place where just being there was intoxicating, so I think it matches the place of chaotic good where Olympus is and the elven gods and shit, and probably all manner of "gods"

No man can predict the side of the coin when you flip it. Not even if you are a super chess grand Master with 9 billions IQ.

Actually when you kill yourself you disappear forever

Yes, although if we're honest, we've all hurt someone and we all have been hurt by others.

Indeed

Jesus offers us His forgiveness.

The opinions of mythical, self righteous, delusional, masochist jews do not concern me.

Pretty sure the whole infinite torture forever thing is just fanfic from Dantes Inferno that people thought was actually in the bible after so long.

Me? He never put me in paradise. He put us here. This original sin bullshit wasn't my problem or responsibility no matter how much you want us all to be born sinners, I wasn't.

To all the atheists

if you are so smart, why can't you win lottery?

Virtually nothing to do with atheism.

Why is it not? Don't you believe in Luck?

The world tree is real, Christian Heaven, Hell, Valhalla, all the after lives are real at the same time. I'm like on the verge of CHIM or something, this is all God's dream, so the truth is a mix of dungeons and dragons lore and elder scrolls lore

Lord Jesus Christ is the righteous judge. I follow and emulate Him to the best of my ability. There is time to repent and change.

Matthew 13:40-43

Yes he did you are still chosing to come here.
Where do you think your soul comes from?
You have literally separated from God and came here

If you look at what is actually in the Bible Hell is distance from God and it is not infinite.

Who is this he?
What you don't understand is you are par of god everything is he isn't doing anything everything good or bad is done by us together.
You are literally blaming yourself.

Well you say calculated chaos but to be able to calculate a probability you have be able to observe, before being observed, its like you say, a coin flip but sometimes a coin can also fall on the edge. You can make the suggestion that all free will can be determined if you look at this through the probability theory but you yourself are suggesting that it is impossible to predict the entropy, so in your eyes it a predictable system with no way of predicting, quite the paradox, no?
So you think we're part of something instead of being something? even if the ego dissapears do you think that our essence if you will will merge and be lost? don't you think there might be a possibility of you being unique? In the sense of your capabilities of observing and being are unique to only you, even though you are part of something.

It actually doesn't exist at all.
Or more precise your life here can look or feel like hell no problem but after you die there is no such thing.

you're kind of right about the 'two states of being' but this concept of 'free will' that is being referred to - or, the knowledge of good and evil - as imagined in the old testament (and that time period and region generally) revolved around a distinction between an innocent wild state of living like an animal amongst nature - like Enkidu or Adam - and being a civilised man knowing right from wrong and the correct ways of living as prescribed by civillized laws - such as the Hammurabi code or the Ten (+603) commandments in the old testament.
It's not quite anything to do with a grand theological test of free will and the choice to sin or not etc as it later develops into with early Christianity (mainly all devised by Paul when he opportunistically took over the initial Christian cult with his letters)

Is free will connected to the mind or is it connected to the ability to excercise the thought? like having a physical body.

whether or not real free will truly exists is debatable and depends on how you define it; animals are now known to actually think and make choices but also it's observed that your brain fires neurons and conceives thoughts with a slightly delay before you even become aware of them.
schizophrenic nonsense with no evidence for it
prove souls exist and explain how you know what you are saying is real (you can't, you're just experiencing psychosis and making it up as you go along)

You don't disappear when you rejoin God we are still there in a state of peace.
We are how God can experience infinite lives.
Don't become purely Evil and you will get to see the universe from his perspective.

Why do you act like God is forcing you to commit evil? You said yourself you have free will so why are you deciding to do evil? Let's expound on that, let's say for a minute that the Bible is 100% true and people are born evil because of the sin our original parents committed, that's not very fair is it? So God himself created a being for himself to walk the earth and voluntarily died on behalf of all our sins do we could be saved, that's not very fair either. So really God made right the unfairness of our condemnation by taking it upon himself to pay the price for it. All that is required by man is to see and agree with God that he needed to step in to save us because we are truly helpless. Is that really too expensive of a cost? You act like people need to be perfect to get to heaven when the Bible points out its the exact opposite. I really don't know how God could have done better?

this shit only works on stupid people

Cope

Why does God let me still do harmful things I love to do in the afterlife, but keep me from doing those harmful things to people who don't also enjoy doing those harmful things to people? I can only enjoy doing the harmful things to people just like me, who wind up in the same neighborhood. This is so unfair!

I actually talked to God funny enough it happened in England near kings cross in 2013.

This is the dumbest analogy ever. In our justice system, the sentences are supposed to be proportional to the crime. If a judge sentences someone to life without parole because they were loitering outside of the supermarket and jaywalking, then they’re a bad judge. Someone is a bad judge if they sentence somebody to cartel-style execution for slapping you in the face. Like, did you not think this simpleton argument through at all?

revolved around a distinction between an innocent wild state of living like an animal amongst nature

I see, i thought of that too. Of times where we had no sense of what is right from wrong and now that we do we have the choice(free will) to see and act, and no longer we can use the excuse of not able to because we have the free will(not animals but a higher being)

but also it's observed that your brain fires neurons and conceives thoughts with a slightly delay before you even become aware of them

Oh wow that's interesting, i didn't know that, that is really fucking cool
I see, thanks for your perspective, one of the plausible theories i have of the afterlife align with your beliefs hand in hand.

are you God?

As far as I know, yes.

believe

That's an abrahamic thing, not anything to do with reality.

I don’t even know what kind of hair brained point you thought you were making, but you failed

christcucks aren't big on logic or they would have turned to the gnostics long ago.

Christ golems are cancer and the ultimate threat to White people

if the Bible is 100% true then it would mean Yahweh is an evil deity who committed evil actions against his own creations with an even more evil punishment to go along with it if you disagree
in that scenario, it would somehow be the case that his own creations had actually become more moral than him, were able to invent a better morality and ways of being than their creator had conceived and they would be 100% justified in rebelling against said creator and not worshipping him (but would be unable to succeed obviously if he's all powerful).

If the Bible was 100% true and real it would mean that this creator God had

punished all of humanity just for two humans eating a fruit when they literally didn't have the capacity to know right from wrong yet

genocided all of humanity except for one guy and his family

destroyed a pair of cities because the men in the city wanted to gang rape a pair of his male messengers rather than some guy's daughters instead

killed a bunch of Egyptian newborn babies after inflicting plagues and disasters on an entire nation

commanded his followers to start massacring their own brothers moments after telling them that thou shalt not kill

made the ground swallow up a bunch more of them

told them to genocide a country full of people and conquer the land, take their women as sex slaves and give him all the riches they find

sent an angel to start spawn camping more newborn babies until a king shows he sorry by killing an animal

have a nation of people similarly kill animals to show they are sorry for any misdeed on a regular basis for hundreds of years

sending an empire to conquer his own chosen nation and rape their women and 'dash their children against the rocks' for not worshipping him correctly

offered to save everyone from his own self made problem by having a guy tortured to death

amongst other things
God is love btw - some rich jew guy who totally wasn't just taking over a new cult for profit circa 30-something AD

christniggers are infected with a semitic brain parasite. you cant save them without destroying their mind.

in the future all christgolem will be purged to save the human race.

Afterlife punishment is a nonsense theory.
Killing and cursing at each other over whatever set of dead peoples ideas you believe in has perpetuated a pointless cycle of misery.

It doesn't make sense, does it? Yet these retards want you to blindly believe this shit.

Hey if the afterlife follows rules like dungeons and dragons, that means an anime afterlife could exist in theory tho right?

You're right it does not make sense. No benevolent God would inflict eternal suffering on his own creations. It defies logic and rationality.

It screams "religion is mind control for the stupid" and indeed the stupid religious people in here beg you, plead with you and when that doesn't work they insult you for not believing in their hocus pocus infinite torture wholly selfish faith-based bullshit. They want you to believe FOR YOUR OWN SAKE and make threats on behalf of their imaginary wizard, but all this accomplishes is turning you into a subservient wimp who cuckolds to authority based upon a subjective morality that your government defines.

So religion ultimately becomes about obeying your government, not an actual God, because God is absent your entire life, but your government isn't and when threats of eternal hellfire won't stop you from enacting your will, a life of prison WILL.

OBEY

OBEY

OBEY

My conscience tells me to hurt people

Do they deserve it?

if yes

you are justified

if no

take your meds

religion ultimately becomes about obeying your government, not an actual God

Yeah I've noticed this. Christians will say that the bible says they have to follow man made laws. Which is really dumb when those man made laws go against their book. It's just so cucked.

evil you experience is just other people exercising their free will

People listening to the devil in their imaginatio create fake scenarios that could happen if they don’t do evil things to protect their future self

No free will

In between every second that ticks on a clock there are infinite moments. If you are unenlightened you are already suffering for an eternity every second of every day.

Free will isn't Biblical, God knew what you would do before you were born. We're all puppets in the freakshow. Christianity is fundamentally purposeless and it only exists to poison the minds of non-jews.

I already know I am going to hell, so why should I bother to be a good person? Christcucks have literally no response to this.

The abyss is endless. You think you are in the low? It can goes lower.

All anti-christs will become a poor fuck, and they will die a lonely death.

That's exactly how the elites think. Since we're already hellbound no matter what, might as well murder and rape and steal.

What should on read of Warhammer 40k?

we're already hellbound no matter what

Just don't be an asshole, it's such an easy test, why do so many fail

Well now lil’ buddy ole’ pal lets take a looksee at that for just one hucka tucka ducka doo minute, hyuk, hyuck, hyuck.

punishment

currently the world is ‘the cursed Earth’ and is under “the curse” which was caused when ole’ salty boy Lucifer was introduced to man and not hitting it off together so to speak ole’ salty decided that since God loved his new creation more than him that he was going to fuck things up for everybody.
Lucifer tricked the first people by telling them that they were getting the stinky end of the gofer loaf and that if they stole the secrets of creation then they could be like unto God and the angels, could replace God with themselves and invade the heavens (space+).
Now imagine that we had created an AI child who we loved but it gets hacked and turns on us. We’d have a choice like God had, God is the only one with the authority to destroy mankind and could have done. But he decided not to and to fix us instead so we were ejected from eden where we’d been living alongside Him out into a cursed Earth. Death and suffering became real. The animals changed, everything changed and evil entered into things as the hacker was also cast into the world (yeah he’s here he ain’t in hell, not yet) to rule the world - to test us.
Lucifer has nearly won once. God almost wiped us out. Flooded the Earth because we were mixed up in some creepy bad shenanigans.
Then came Jesus, Satan and his boys thought they’d won again but you know what happened.
Now at The End which isn’t going to be the end it’s only going to be the end of the curse comes Judgement Day, after the messiah has overthrown the last of the ‘beasts’, beasts are globo empires symbolised as beasts and the last one as ‘the great beast’.
Globo empires are all the same from Babylon through Egypt, Rome and maybe others like Atlantis who always loved lucifer (satan now) and fell for the trick and so they all want godhood for their top elites.
The dead ain’t in…

cloud heaven or in hell yet, the clergy always knew this but they thought esoteric truth was just for them as the shepherds of man and that since simple people could not handle the truth they’d dumb things down - taking their cue from jesus who’d dumbed things down for the thieves dying with him on Golgotha when the kikes and globo were murdering him. They made up memes like dead people going to live in cloud heaven. But the truth in the Bible is this - nobody goes to heaven or hell (except a couple of named characters who go to live with the creator) the dead are no longer in time only the living are in time. Remember before you were born, you were dead before you came to life and no you don’t remember because you were not waiting around. The dead will come to life again on judgement day, they are ‘uploaded’ to Sheol, are outside time, on judgement day they are getting downloaded again and the messiah is going to judge us all the living and the dead. That’s when THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN begins, because the test is over and everything is restored to the way it should be. God himself returns descending from the heavens in a city of metal already constructed landing a great cloud, enthroned inside the city. He will personally “dry every tear”. We will be changed, the animals will change and we will all understand each other and everything again. Satan, Death and the children of Satan who belong to him are going into a lake of fire.

Go live in the sun fuckers

do they deserve it?
Yes. I’m not sure what it means but yes.
After 1,000 years that fucker breaks out and attacks us again briefly but he’s going back.
In the end, in the last days (soon, it’s happening now) the vaxxies are cursing us with their necrotic face sores agonising them when the big one hits, sounds like solar flare strikes, they are cast into darkness as all their power goes but they

put up a great wailing and gnashing of teeth

*seething. Against us. But they did it to themselves

Jew not Christian burn in hell
Jew not Muslim burn in hell
Christian not Jew burn in hell
Christian not Muslim burn in hell
Muslim not Jew or Christian burn in hell

You can be the most pious person in the world be a pefect human being but if you don't believe in someones specific way of worshiping the creator you burn for eternity in hell. Something don''t seem right there.

lel

Dont care still burning in hell and there is nothing i can do about it. We calvinists believe in predestination and since in degenerate i know my place in this universe.

infinite punishment and torment

Because they never leave the earth.
You kill someone that has a "butterfly effect".
You have changed the entire world in a negavite way by destroying a positive.
It's like herpes for example.
You live with it.
You made a limited negative decision and now your entire life includes it always and forever until your death.
Even after your death the things you did in life are shadowed by your herpes.
That's the worldly equivalent of infinite punishment and torment because time is relative.
So if you raped Hera a million years ago that time is not recognized by Zeus.
Time doesn't make you any less of Hera's rapist.

Because being good gets you nowhere in this world, you'll be locked up in a wagecage without pussy while the biggest asshole gets all the pussy and doesn't have to work. The real test is overcoming your nature whether you be a natural goody two shoes faggot or a hyper evil sadistic piece of shit.

YOU CAN'T JUST REFUSE TO MUTILATE YOUR SON'S GENITALS!!! I WILL TORTURE YOU IN HOT LAVA UNLESS YOU MUTILATE YOUR SON'S PENIS!!! I AM A JEALOUS GOD!

that's not the the test though, according to the actual teachings of Jesus you have to actually genuinely believe the events of the Bible literally happened and you have to abandon your worldly desires, wants and lifestyle and commit yourself to being a zealot spreading his teachings. It's not just about being vaguely nice, only people who haven't thoroughly read the text think this.
The pop culture version of Jesus is that he's just a chill hippie guy who wants people to be nice and wants his religion to just be some personal lifestyle thing - but the actual real canonical version of Jesus in the text itself is an apocalyptic messenger trying to enact some kind of cultural revolution against the jewish vassal state of Rome telling the jews that the end times where they're all gonna die is right around the corner (in their own lifetime) and will happen at any moment and that you should abandon everything including even your family to follow him and spread the word otherwise your body is gonna get literally thrown into the firey pit of Gehenna outside the city walls when the city falls and your soul will be obliterated into nothingness afterwards
The real Jesus is not a chill hippie guy that wanted people to be nice but a megalomaniac on a political campaign advising his followers to be selfless and nice as a way of keeping their heads down and not causing trouble so they don't get wiped out before the end comes in two weeks (who was then executed for hate speech against the establishment and proven wrong since the end times never actually happened while his cult was posthumously co-opted by some other rich jew guy and turned into an institution that retards ITT still post on behalf of for some reason thousands of years later on a totally different continent)

Kek

not overcoming your nature to be the most epic good that challenges evil because it's fun

You can always chose to do your best within the confines of what you can control. What you are describing is envy, a sin, of comparing yourself to others you view as lucky.

If you look at the youtuber with the Lambo and 15million followers and say "thats so fucked up he has it easy" or the trustfund nepo baby, while looking at your deadbeat parents, it just shows you are not looking at the poor child that was kidnapped and sex trafficked to pedophiles or any other number of truly atrocious outcomes others face.

You are not responsible for certain things life deals you, but you are responsible for living the best life you can. Stop coping and start living

living exactly like I wanted to is infinite punishment and torment

Do you niggers really? Faggots like you make your own hell. Nobody is forcing you to.

You are allowed to network and coordinate with your fellow Mormons and Catholics and Protestants in order to advance the status and security of yourself and your fellows. You are not allowed to coordinate and network with other white people in order to advance the status and security of yourself and your peers.
This is why they are pushing anti religious sentiment. They want you alone and without support or children or property or decent jobs

are you God?

First time? *pats shoulder* Get ready for the after party, Satan likes his with no lube and no cheating by getting used to it! He wipes memories so each rape abuse by a pack of black nigger demons play through is fresh. Sucks to suck, should've realized this is hell to begin with, better luck next time?

There's a neo-rainbow flag on every church in my town.

I just want to be reborn with a chance to live a little better with a little more wisdom

I hated reading this line. Because now my brain sometimes wonders what it means to blaspheme the holy spirit, but I don't wanna know because sometimes my brain does those "what if I jumped off a cliff" type scenarios, ya know? And I don't want it to be a blasphemous thing against the holy spirit and then fuck everything up. I repeat the Apostle's Creed about once a day on average just to make sure my brain is cleared, and any time a bad thought like that enters, I immediately say "I rebuke you Satan in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth". Ugh I hate my brain.

Whenever someone tells you they know what happens after you die, they are completely brainwashed and/or full of shit.

be God

I'm gonna put this guy together in a way that his actions will lead him getting in he'll

lmao

Explain this pls

That's exactly how the elites think. Since we're already hellbound no matter what, might as well murder and rape and steal.

Tht explains why they rape children

What if I been there?

NOW I'M BEING ABLE OT THINK WHILE MY SKIN BURN IN FIRE AND BOILING WATER

It's not like that, nigga. You'll not be able to think. You'll be able only to feel.

You reap what you sow.

Hell is the result of your actions.
Even if you become king, if you got there with lies, trickery, deception, cheating, stealing, the empire you are king of reflects how you became its king.

What if there's a teapot in orbit around the sun?

Hey pol, do you believe in Yokai?
If not ur going to Jigoku