I love it

A bunch of NEETs who have never held a hammer let alone swung one
Trying to tell people who have spent decades in the construction industry that deporting the base of the construction labor force will make housing prices go down
That being said, its not like any of you people will ever be able to afford to buy a house anyway
XD

It's crazy how they consulted all of the experts on this matter and most of them agree that deportations wouldn't ease the housing crisis.
I guess we should stop deportations then so the housebuilding experts will have cheap labor.
They're experts, after all. Masters of their craft.

Immigration raises housing costs and increases demand, doublenigger
A curse upon your bloodline
*Spits*

Get out

likely wouldn't

aka "Definitey would, but we don't want it to."

I honestly trust the spergs here more than drunken hondurans desu senpai.

you don't employ white men because you're intimidated by them, if you tried to pay me the poverty shit you pay beaners, and you ran the types of construction sites you do with half assed garbage popsicle stick houses they shit out for the meager pittance you pay while your fat ass goes and eats jersey mikes I'd hammer your face into mush. best for everyone for me to avoid the scene entirely

inflate the dollar 400% since 1980

suppress wages by importing millions of Guatemalans who happily work for $10/hr from 6AM to 8PM 6 days a week and don't pay taxes

make starting and operating a business ludicrously expensive and put a million hurdles in place for young people to get their foot in the door

HMMMMM

in 1972, an unskilled construction worker made the equivalent of $70/hr in today's money at 16 years old

they could buy a new car, get a mortgaged house and attend college with that money

today, as a tradie, I made $16/hr after 3 years on the job and only cleared $12.5k last year

can't even afford fucking beer

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

likely wouldn't

experts say

Fuck off.

experts say

everything Trump does is wrong, rabid Trump haters say

the guy who speaks English with no experience can’t replace the guy who can’t read plans or communicate but has held a framing nailer and pushed the trigger

Adios amigo

Illegals live ten to a house and build them for nothing. The reason you have a housing problem is because you use houses for speculation, which raises the price and disincentivizes new construction. You know, the same as every single other neoliberal country with a housing problem. You could deport every single illegal (you won't) and the cost of houses would go UP. Stop blaming absolutely everything except the actual cause of the problem

How would deporting 30 million+ people not ease the housing market? If you got rid of all the shitskins housing prices would literally fall like a rock and food would be significantly less expensive provided we didn't export as much and stopped throwing away "ugly" food.

See

im a tradesman. these fucking pacos literally took our jobs

ratfuck contractors undercut our wages hire them and they do this shittiest work. this wouldn't be a problem if they ENFORCED THE FUCKING EMPLOYMENT AND IMMIGRATION LAWS

mass deportation would definitely lead to lower housing prices.

It’s literally impossible for deportations to not help the housing market, done properly they would completely implode the housing market (aka fix it). The strongest driver of housing pricing is vacancies.
We already have sufficient housing, but too many people are holding out for. “A better deal”. Once it becomes impossible to hold on to that hope, people will start eating losses.
Also as the boomers die their retarded children will immediately liquidate their assets without giving a shit how much value the boomer lost.

A large scale reduction in demand for housing will absolutely see a drop in prices.

Good, maybe Ryan Homes will stop building shitty cookie cutter mcmansions on 1/8 acre and selling them "for the low $400's!". That business model needs to go so that more starter homes can be built so that first time buyers have an attainable goal.

Deport 48 million brownoids and the demand will drop. Boomers will howl in pain as their investments nosedive

Beaners are infamously shit builders. Even here we know that.

I don't really care about the housing crisis. Beaners murder people and they need to leave.

A large scale reduction in demand for housing will absolutely see a drop in prices.

It would be an even larger scale increase in the cost of labour of construction. The source of your problem is that houses are used as private property (the real definition of private property, not your libertarian nonsense) to accumulate capital via speculation.

It's absolutely pointless to talk about mass deportations because as long as you live under capitalism it is never going to happen, as capitalism demands the lowest wages possible and highest possible profit. You may as well be talking about the effects of dragon attacks on the housing market. Completely off the mark and not even within the realm of possibilities.

Just print it.

OP and other redditards are incapable of remembering the country longer then 2 weeks ago, they think we all lived on yurts and foraged berries and meat from a barren wasteland for decades, before we imported 80 iq indentured slave labour shitskins to do jobs 14 year old White high school kids could be taught.

longer then

80 IQ

lol

likely

experts

Lol
Lmao

Ugly af but would be cool to print a hunting cabin

It will definitely improve the quality of new builds, but also increase the price.

Houses are a decaying asset, they were used as an investment vehicle because they were constantly rising in value because of demand.
When your depreciating asset is rapidly losing demand, you are in a pickle.

This isn’t even about houses, this is going to leave a gaping hole in the rental market, which will lower the cost of living for the poorest significantly. As they resort themselves the effect will cascade upwards.

You can talk people into homeownership when the mortgage and the rent check are 1500. When the rent check is 900 and the mortgage is 1500, people start changing their minds at the fringes.

Backwards. We already have a lot of 3d-printed or off-site construction concepts that can be scaled up. Most housing in the future will be much more basic and much cheaper.

they couldn't even just say experts, had to say "most" experts

The price of your house is a function of where it is. The actual building itself is an extremely minor part of what people are paying for. Ergo, filling up your town with illegal migrants is going to have a far greater impact on the cost of living than the "dead labor" of an already built home.

The problem isn't that we need new construction. There isn't any new construction where I live. All of the houses have been built. The town is essentially "completed." It's dead labor as in "the people who built these houses are dead." Except now you are competing with illiterate Mexicans whose rent by the way is being subsidized by the government.

That doesn't really happen though. In most rural counties and even urban ones that are more crime ridden, if you deported them all then the housing prices would plummet quite quickly. If you in a rural town that does agriculture, watch how your prices fluctuate between harvesting season and winter in regards to housing. Theres at least a 300$ difference, if not more.

Bought a house last year built in 1920 by white people
Modern builders would have a stroke at the amount of material used and how sturdy this fucker is

Depends on how many deportations there are. Anyone who doesn't believe that 20 million fewer people will result in lower housing economic pressure is a stooge.

shamefur dispray

If you could deport all illegals + their anchor babies then you could see 40 million if not more.

the left is now defending worker exploitation and large home building corporations?

Faggot, no one is buying houses at current prices, at current rates. Those illegals are just costing us money in the form of welfare.

Why wont you just hire more local people?
Oh right, because immigrants will work for pennies.

remember they literally killed him for it
theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/japan-says-it-must-look-after-its-own-before-allowing-syrian-refugees-in

this is going to leave a gaping hole in the rental market

That would be true if mass deportations were actually on the table but they're not. It's not even being considered, it's not going to happen. The rhetoric is hot air.

That doesn't really happen though.

This is plain delusion

if you deported them all then the housing prices would plummet quite quickly

Again, no, because they live 10 to a house in rentals and their labour is so much cheaper and more productive than legal, regulated labour, which is the same reason why they're there in the first place, and why it's never going to happen. It's a complete trumptard fantasy. It will simply not happen, there is ZERO economic incentive to deport them.

Are you a Jew or just a retard?

be 30

work in factory sleep 5 hrs per night

live with my mommy and my daddy

make 52k/yr

have 73k in savings

still can't afford a house

id be perfectly fine with a manufactured home of 600 sq ft but they all come with a fucking 458 dollar a month HoA fee

so there's no point and it's literally worse than renting

boomer kikes will defend this, being NIMBY faggots on zoning boards with minimum lot sizes

they pass "affordable housing initiatives" which is just apartments, which isn't real housing

Apartments are not real housing, get the fuck over it nigger
I am not dying for Israel btw you fucking nigger.
I will not rent a single one of your properties boomer. I'll live in my car.
Fuck you you boomer kike piece of shit. I can't wait until you're in a demented helpless withered state being tormented by a sheboon nurse you voted to import, over and over, kept alive by heroic medical care for years so your torment can continue.

I think people don’t appreciate that the price of housing is downstream from the price of apartment renting.
Apartment renting is a pretty easy function of adjusting your price based on your vacancy rate. While doing this, you are not speculating on the future price of housing, you are finding the max tolerable price level of what already exists.

When people can rent for significantly cheaper than they can mortgage, they simply don’t mortgage. When demand for housing drops, those holding for a profit must exit or watch on despair as those selling out of necessity accept what the market is actually willing to pay.

Failing to upkeep their properties will also reduce their value, and there is always taxes. They will be on a sinking ship and forced to compete with those selling out of necessity (or dig their hole even deeper)

Okay yes, if the premise does not hold true the conclusions don’t. Well done anon you have really gotten a hand on this who logic thing.

because they live 10 to a house in rentals

No? I have worked in agriculture before picking flats of berries in Georgia heat. They do not live 10 to a house, they live AT THE EXTREME END 3 families to a home 1000sqft in size. They do however pack themselves 20 to a car and lay over one another like sardines. Genuinely the funniest shit ever.

their labour is so much cheaper/better

Cheaper per person? Sure, but it depends on what market. For small scale agri that is doesn't make enough revenue to automate any, has too much land and product to move with a family but also can't upscale in size yeah they are great. For construction work or really any other blue collar work? They are almost more expensive to keep on board because they literally fuck everything up and half ass everything.

eventually the downtown areas become undesirable. in real estate lingo they say "bad schools" which is code for demographics. all schools get the same books, they all have the same teachers, the only difference is the intelligence and behavior of the students, there are no good schools only good students. if there's more land available in suburbs then new builds in those areas can become good places to live, if there's no more land in the surrounding areas, then cities split up into good neighborhoods and bad neighborhoods where costs for the good part goes way up, but just a few blocks away there's the rundown bad neighborhood.

""""this is going to...."""""

Don't try to feign smugness after losing an argument, it's pathetic redditor shit.

the frame is probably great, but how is the insulation, electrical, and plumbing?

For construction work or really any other blue collar work? They are almost more expensive to keep on board because they literally fuck everything up and half ass everything.

It doesn't matter because their labour is still so much cheaper, and they work without regulations or job security so they can be forced to be far more productive. The people who hire them know what they're doing, it's always cheaper, and significantly so.

This wouldn't be a problem if the boomer faggots didn't sell out the entire industry to foreigners instead of investing in their own country's future by hiring and training young men here. No, they saw an opportunity to pay less and make more so they hired millions of mexicans under the table and now that the horde has to go back home there is nobody to make their five million dollar cardboard shacks. Boo fuckin hoo now they cant buy their 4th midlife crisis corvette

boomer

It was capitalists, of every generation, from the formation of America, up until now, that put this system in place. The generations after the boomers are voting for the exact same parties and playing the exact same economic games, you just got in later.

It was capitalists,

t.

how many have been deported like 200?

No argument? Just butthurt? That's what I thought

Yep. That's boomers for you.
Mostly italian mafia owned construction companies too, who get all the contracts .
They get all the contracts because they can provide lowest bids. Due to lowest labor cost , illegal mexicans and guatemalans.

all of you don't work hard and need to bootstrap like me

who gets guaranteed construction contracts

Now do hospital waiting room taking longer after deportations

They are not mutually exclusive. Also, immigrants get interest free loans that citizens can not get. So they own more homes than they should in addition to just taking rental space. Getting rid of them absolutely would make rents and houses cheaper. Only adherents to MMT and neoliberalism think supply and demand are detached from price.

This wouldn't be a problem if the boomer faggots didn't sell out the entire industry to foreigners instead of investing in their own country's future

by hiring and training young men here.

No, they saw an opportunity to pay less and make more so they hired millions of mexicans under the table

and now that the horde has to go back home there is nobody to make their five million dollar cardboard shacks.

Yep.

most (((experts))) say

Discarded

I gotta do a bit of insulation work but electric, plumbing, HVAC and roof were all very recent done

Only adherents to MMT and neoliberalism think supply and demand are detached from price

Read what I wrote again. Take it slower. You can do this. Also going to need a source on that claim for interest free loans exclusively for illegal immigrants.

is anyone surprised?
housing crisis is purely Judaic.

Have you ever held a hammer OP?

This, but overpopulation and explotation of material prices are also the main issues.

I read it, it still doesn't make sense. The interest free loans are for immigrants. Illegal immigrants draw benefits through poverty programs or they shit out children here and use them to extract value with housing vouchers through HUD and the like.
Now address the primary point. How can lowering demand by millions of people not impact price?

Every globalist kike in charge of the economy needs to go, and their shabbos goy. That will fix the economy.

I don't need to buy a house, loser.

10 to a house

So taking 3.7 million houses off the market then

I read it, it still doesn't make sense

I can not make it any simpler for you. That was the most direct and vulgar elemental explanation possible. If you cannot comprehend this you are either being deliberately obtuse or you are never going to make it. It is self-evident and I shouldn't even have to say it.

No? They live in regular 2 or 3 bedrooms and pack people in. They also mostly rent.

All the surface level arguments here about how population collapse will make life better because less people -> cheaper houses or less people -> more houses genuinely sound like shit a barely sentient little boy would come up with. It's so superficial and stupid. The economy isn't abinary entity. There are countless intertwining factors at play. A population collapse leading to a shortage of construction workers and a recommendation to get housing up to code and the momvent of people within nations meaning points of interests will be overcrowded even with a lower overall population because jobs can be found there and boomers not dying and countless other factors. All those factors? Way too complex for the brainlets here to take into account. There are even more than the ones I mentionned. A lot more. But they can't understand that. They genuinely are stupid and uneducated. They're going to be bled out when shit hits the fan because life is too complex for them. And they advocate for retarded nonsense too because it looks good when you're in a perpetual state of brain damage.

So they have spend decades breaking the law employing illegals that have no right to work contribute nothing to the public welfare.

Maybe you should report those people for their crimes.

I live in a blue shithole stronghold state and prices are already going down for the first time in 10 years

white people can't swing a hammer

pretty sure we invented them

Ok so I will make it simpler for you. Who is speculating or buying these flipped houses when you remove 10's of millions of buyers and renters from the market? Your position make no sense, it just sounds like it makes sense to you because you thought this speculators bit was clever. It isn't. That is a problem, but it is not the only problem. All caught up?

i don't give a fuck what happens, i want beaners off the site and back in mexico where they belong

t. framer

so what you're saying is... the problem is once again jews?

don't care, want beaners gone
also i can build a house and you can't, you probably have some made up job

back in my day we used to build houses the right way!

I'm an industrial mechanic. Go fuck yourself cunt. You picked the worst person to say this shit to.

Just say you support slave labor, bro. It's OK, we already know.

kek ok retard A-rab

I'd live in that

You're right. For housing prices to go down we have to put jews in camps.

(experts) = jews
Fuck kikes, and fuck the jew owned media