CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL AND CAUSED BY HUMANS

THE *clap* SCIENCE *clap* IS *clap* SETTLED

every climate change concern troll thread is just a nuclear energy shill thread in disguise

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If the science was settled then the current models wouldnt be producing wrong predictions about the ice levels in Antarctica decreasing when they are actually increasing

Climate "science" is more snake oil than gender studies

Once the world descents into political and economic chaos it is going to sort itself out on its own.

science being attacked by leftists

Oooo its toasty

I really can't wait to start strangling you people

YOU
NEED
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YOURSELF

physicists

build an advanced magnetic ring that 17 miles wide to prove their hypothesis

climate "scientists"

never even performed an experiment before declaring the hypothesis to be settled science

So is the current temperature change at 1.2 or 0.5 C? Your images seem to contradict each other... as if the data and midels were cherry picked

libshit college convinced white people to stop having children so i literally hope the world burns

It’s actually unseasonably cool here in the southeast

The Earths climate has a cycle. This is likely done to ensure that the Earth remains habitable.
Attempt to interfere with the Earth's natural climate cycle will cause what they are trying to prevent.

Layup

Nope the data is quite clear and its not at all what the climate predictions agree. While there has been ice loss at 1 part there general trend over the last 40 years is an increase in ice levels at Antarctica. We have confirmed the individual studies with satellite measurements over the last 5 years

This is not something new, we have known this for years but the media still only talk about the predictions not reality. The only references being a small amount of articles each year saying how they are surprised at the ice growth this year and how its a freak result

livescience.com/planet-earth/antarctica/nasa-satellites-show-antarctica-has-gained-ice-despite-rising-global-temperatures-how-is-that-possible
carbonbrief.org/guest-post-why-2023-was-an-exceptional-year-for-antarctic-sea-ice/
eos.org/science-updates/new-perspectives-on-the-enigma-of-expanding-antarctic-sea-ice

caused

Any "scientist" who claims causation isn't a scientist, they're a retard.

i dont care about climate change by I still am a nuclear shill

Okay. And the only way to actually, meaningfully counter global warming is to nuke India and Africa and derail the entire global economy. So when do they start advocating for that? Because "carbon tax" ain't going to do diddly dick when you have billions of people undergoing industrialization.

the sun is one million times bigger than the earth
you can fit one million planet earths inside the sun

anyone saying humans are causing the climate to change are retards
i dont care about your own brand of gay science

CO2 levels are causing plants to grow too much and too healthy! It's causing the "SUPER GREENING" of the world! The planet is getting too healthy!!!

Everywhere is high than average, amazing.

So why is there mass migration? You fucking dumbass. Stop importing human maybe.

climate change is caused by the night comer "Al-Tariq"

you're not going to change the weather by increasing a gas that comprises 0.02% of the atmosphere, sorry

seealso picrel

And that's why you are paying these new taxes goy

99% of studies agree with the people funding them

It's already over. I learned so from Al Gore.

When was the climate “correct”?
Name a year, a CO2 amount, a global temperature.

They both show an increase of ~1.2. Learn to read a graph.

this guy is smarter than Svante Arrhenius who first predicted increasing CO2 levels would cause warming in 1898

Arrhenius was the first to use the principles of physical chemistry to estimate the extent to which increases in the atmospheric carbon dioxide are responsible for the Earth's increasing surface temperature. His work played an important role in the emergence of modern climate science... In 1903, he received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, becoming the first Swedish Nobel laureate.

A whole 1.2 degrees Celsius (2.2 degrees Fahrenheit), both below Scenarios A and B, in 70 years of intense globalization and the quadrupling of the Earth's population is somehow a reason to panic?

You better quit being such a faggot before people around you start to notice what a fucking idiot you are.

Then I guess it's time to depopulate China, India, and Africa?

You might be blind

there is literally a chapter of the Quran saying the obliteration of the stars

WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO COLD IT SHOULD BE IN THE 80S AT LEAST. I'm freezing it's 50 out!!

humans caused doggerland to flood

humans caused it to be warmer during the roman republic

humans caused the sea levels to rise so much that Japan was no longer connected to Korea and the natives got stuck there

Reminder this is a modern day death cult

lmaooo

You're obviously entirely ignorant on the subject, or else a shill. In fact warming since 1850 is already at 1.5C, and that does not account for masking by aerosols. And of course, emissions globally continue to increase.

picrel warming over land

If only there were no people, then the climate would never change again.

Explain climate change. Mass migration. I wonder what would happen if stopped migration policy. Look at that climate change.

Seriously nobody called the dust bowl climate change. They didn't call any other climate disaster climate change.

Today the problem is planetary numbers quadrupling from the historical average in a century. It has caused concerns. Concerns that weren't there historically. The weather changes. The difference today is more people feel any change. More people deplete local sources. Water usage is a big fucking problem. Deforestation another.

But we go through Planetary climate change regardless of population. Warm and cool periods throughout our history. Today dumb and dumber are selling even more consumption for profit. None of the solutions are sustainable they simply profit more. More sources powering more crap. More consumption fueling economic growth. GDP rises in tandem with energy consumption. If you own the railroad you set its rates. The most expensive form of energy is electricity. No fixed rate on the watt. It fluctuates as in the next house uses more. It needs another substation. Taxation. Investment. Demand. Debt.

We are being pummelled with stupidity. Why hasn't mass migration stopped in climate change. Instead of nations doubling or gaining a third more population since we have had its stupid narratives? Electricity is sold per household? What?

Every single one of these topics has no brains. It is what it is. Nobody can tell me what happens. The sea level is rising for the ice age? Why are all the turbines in the sea? Why are we using more electricity in climate change we it is the first thing out in the weather?

no shit are we nuking china and india yet or what

it does not matter one bit
one large cme and you get more shit flooding the atmosphere and everywhere on earth than we could dump in a thousand years, and with the weakening magnetic field we get more and more space shit being flung at us

as i said, your specific brand of science is gay and fake

r/science always provides a hearty chuckle

So it's even more than 2 now? Your data seems highly inconsistent.

OH NO! THAT WITH THE CO2 LEVELS RISING WILL TURN EARTH INTO A GAIA JUNGLE! EVERYTHING WILL SUPER GROW!

it doesn't matter one bit

some random idiot on a basket weaving forum

ok bud

usa is second to carbon emission and even beating india with it. Nuke usa,china and india and the rest of world will enjoy actual winters in October.

Pay attention. That graph is land temperatures only. It warms faster over land than water. Global averages out to 1.5
Increasing CO2 without increasing water has no benefit to plants

I built a clockwork supercomputer that has all of human progress stored in it.

show error bars, faggot

Right, so the points Are cherry picked. Gotcha.

You forgot

Offer no meaningful solutions

agree. it's the Indians and then Asians

Oh, so now it has already happened and we're just too stupid to realize it.

Increasing CO2 without increasing water has no benefit to plants

Water levels in the air have been increasing as well. They were going to label it a greenhouse gas in the Obama presidency, then they gave up when everyone made fun of them.

bro trust this random ass chart I swear we didn’t collect temperature data from weather stations in hot parking lots, I swear bro the data is real bro

Kys

Yep. We're all after-kablooied. Wanna get a soda?

So you've shifted your argument to be that 2.25 degree Celsius (or 4.05 Fahrenheit) in 150 years, through Industrialization, multiple world wars, intense globalization, nuclear testing, Agent Orange and other chemical tests, DARPA, HAARP, the creation of the combustion motor, aviation, rocketry and everything else that has happened since fucking 1850 is somehow a reason to panic? When we know we are coming out of a period known as "The Little Ice Age", literally from 1300 to 18-fucking-50. You are an absolute fucking retard who can't be bothered to Google the most basic facts about the very topic you think you know so much about. Your kids are fucked. Fucking Simple Jack over here trying to scare people with a 4 degree Fahrenheit after a literal Ice Age.

fake and gay

No, there are three data sets: one for both land and sea, which is 1.5 from 1850 baseline, one for land, and one for sea only. But yes, you can argue over which baseline to use.

dang humans caused all those prehistoric ice ages and warmings amazing

Water levels in the air are not increasing at ground level where plants can access them. Drought is also getting worse in places like the US south west

appeal to authority, but he's less than an authority so it's even more idiotic

Drought is also getting worse in places like the US south west

As it industrializes, it'll get greener. A few coal-fired power plants will turn it into a forest. I'm not telling a joke.

I haven't shifted my argument. Most people don't live at sea, so I was merely pointing out that land temps have increased more.

I'm more than familiar with arguments about the little ice age, and being an environmentalist I care about more than climate change. Nor have I said anything about needing to panic, but somethings like coral bleaching are already getting bad as a result of increased CO2 levels.

Covid vaccine is 100 effective!

It's not an appeal to authority; I merely pointed out that smart people who work on the mechanics of the subject have been consistent in their predictions for well over 100 years now.

nooooo not the heckin co2 levels that have been changing since the start of time nooooooooooooo

What caused climate change the other 2 million times it's happened over 1B years?

Well theres chemtrails poisoning everyone, oil being drilled at oil rates never before seen, gmos and literally biohazard agents being sprayed on crops, the rain forest being cut down for timber and to make room for more goyslop farms, the amount of grazing/living room for livestock as well as the amount of cropland used to grow their feed accounts for 80% of our current farm space, among a couple things then maybe yeah I would agree with you OP.

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Rising atmospheric CO2 is a trailing indicator.
First comes heat, then comes higher CO2 levels.
It’s not causal.

Annudah shoah

Aaaaand, you're going to have to give me a GOOD source that says there is no increase in precipitation from airborn water. It's been raining for days. EVERYONES lawn/garden/crops have been going nuts. I'm going to have to call lawn-care tomorrow and they were just by 3 friggin days ago.

the earth is 800k years old

based

The ocean and even the Amazon is putting out more C02 than humans today.

It's fuck dumb people like you. Like you who should be wearing I melt Canada badges and giving them to every migrant taxing them triple carbon taxes for entry. But you don't. You blame everybody else while selling the next baddadonkadonk. Get your EV it will stop the volcano. The EV will stop the hurricane. You're as dumb as they come and they don't come any dumber. The dumbest in history. Let's migrate our population so they call all have the baddadonkadonk. Meanwhile you all melt Canada.

Where are the less than .1% studies? Just curious what an actual scientist had to say.

Did manmade climate change cause the Younger Dryas event or the mini ice age? How about 536 AD, was that mAn MaDe cLiMaTe ChAnGe as well?

But won't don't green parties lobby for lower immigration, encourage work from home, accept falling birth rates. You would think the Bill Gates types would rave about this stuff.

From my observation the only thing governments want to do is tax white people.

You find me a source saying more precipitation on average across all locations. K thx

If you ignore all the other studies that don't agree with your hypothesis then you too van have a 100 percent consensus.

The issue is: What is their solution in this problem-reaction-solution gamut?
Therefore, climate change will never be real. Because the solution is something akin to the covid solution. For everyone to dig our own grave and kill ourselves in them for maximum efficiency. See? Covid wasn't real either.

cant trust science any more. institutions are compromised and have shown in many instances they elevate ideology above truth, above logic. so especially for politcally charged topics you have to disbelieve them if it agrees with liberal orthodoxy. sorry thats how it has to be now

Yeah, caused by cloud seeding.

If by consistent you mean consistently wrong then yes I agree

We didnt get a new ice age and global cooling as predicted in the 70s
We didnt get acid rain burning peoples skin as predicted in the 80s
The ozone layer didnt vanish as predicted in the 90s (despite global cfc increases thanks to China)
We didnt have the arctic and Antarctic melt and have global sea level rises as predicted in the 00s
We didnt get the huge temp rises predicted in the 10s (even though we changed from measuring in the shade to in the open)

Every single large scale prediction has failed

if india didnt exist the world would be cleaner.

BREAKING NEWS: PEOPLE WHO GET PAID TO STUDY THING SAY THING IS BAD AND NEEDS TO BE STUDIED MORE!!! ALSO THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT BETTER IS TO GIVE MORE POWER TO THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THEM!!!!!

No u.

This chart, starting around 1970, runs from ~0 to ~+1.2
This chart begins in 1970 and shows its ~-0.2 then runs to ~+1

Both show an increase of about +1.2 from 1970 to today.

Coral bleaching is the death of the algae on the coral which provide them with food and their various colors. Algae has existed for roughly 3 billion (with a b) years, at least according to the fossil record. Just because some fucking algae died this year doesn't mean the coral will go extinct. Stop talking about how the sky is falling because somebody showed you some underwater white rocks. The ocean has undergone far worse than us, and will be alive and vibrant long after we're dead. Even if the whole planet dies, life will spawn there again. Fucking settle down. And quit moving the fucking goalposts. Yes, you are moving the goalposts. No, your bullshit about how your aren't isn't going to fly. 1.2 degrees to 2.25 degrees to "coral bleaching is bad". Sit down and shut the fuck up until you have something intelligent to say. Not something you think is intelligent. Something actually intelligent. Ask somebody around you to check it before you post. Fucking tard.

Well that chart is a fucking lie.

You're not paying attention. Probably because all you do is listen to fake news. Literally gaining ice this year and over the course of the past 3 years.

Whatever do you mean ?

What are the specifications for the observable measurement data collection?

How have those measurement specifications changed over time? Im aware of 3 changes in spec in 1992, 2012 and 2020 but there may be more. As some professing to be knowledgeable in this area Im sure you can inform me

for someone that claims 'really gets it'
you really suck at explaining your point

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I was simply teaching the retarded Kraut how to read a graph. I don't doubt you know more than I do about how those measurements were taken.

Climategate already proved this is a psuedo science. All the computer models were crafted to output the desired result. When they weren't putting out the desired result, the "scientists" worked with the computer engineers to create the desired result. Raw data is never offered. Just these computer models.

zoomies and genas don't read faggy articles, your fear tactics are dead. try making climate change tiktok dance instead

Not only that, 800,000 years is relatively small on the cosmological scale. 1.64 million years ago is still the Quaternary Period of the Cenozoic Era (literally right fucking now).

that's how you know it's a lie

My point is that the data you are basing your assertions off is not a reliable data set because of the changes in measurement spec over time. Each time the spec changes we have to re-calibrate or normalize the previous data to bring it into the same calibration window as the new spec. Now in reality thats an impossible task but we do it anyway

Its quite a coincidence that on the 3 occasions the measurement spec was changed that the following years saw sharp rises in recorded temps

Im not saying climate change isnt real. It clearly is. My point is that we are intentionally being dishonest about the data for political and funding reasons. If we actually want to really understand the scope of the problem and do something about it then we have to get rid of the dishonest pseudo science we are currently engaged in and do it properly. Carbon taxes and movement and energy restrictions are not a solution, they are tools of political control and wealth transfer

If we continue the dishonest way we are currently doing things that just creates more denialists

Yeah cool.
My point is the German misread one of the graphs and thought it was some kind of own. The quality of the data is a different argument entirely.

Lots of people in suits need to be hanged for denying humanity's right to be powered entirely by nuclear energy.

what is clap science?
is this like studying crabs?

I can't believe Hamas would do such a thing.

climate changed more before humans

aaaaaah humans are causing the slowest rate of climate change in the entire 2 billion year history of the world!

They have been saying this shit since the 1960's. At least then they talked about cleaning up trash and the poisoning of the earth by corporations. Now everything is just the average person's fault and all the science fags who fly first class several times a week agree.

Climate change is a conspiracy to have people forget about pollution and think about carbon instead.
Remember the 3 eyed fish in the simpson. That type of pollution is way more dangerous than carbon

It's cute like they pretend the scientists arguing otherwise were taken seriously to and degree

If the science was settled then the current models wouldnt be producing wrong predictions about the ice levels in Antarctica

The ice core samples taken from Antarctica showcase a natural oscillation in C02 levels which exceed that of anything humans have put into the atmosphere. Every time they show you that scary C02 graph, ask them to zoom it out. They never will, they're trying to misrepresent the data to fit a narrative. The Earth goes through cyclical Ice Ages which are tied to C02 levels and what causes it is an algae bloom explosion followed by a catastrophic die-off due to depleted oxygen levels in the ocean

The argument humans are directly responsible for climate change is akin to putting 10 drops of food colouring in the ocean and then screaming incessantly about how it wasn't there before

Yup this is what I was looking for, thank you.