Gaza: Ethnic Cleansing without Genocide?

What Israel is doing to Gaza does not seem like a genocide in any classical sense, because if it were a genocide, it would be one of the most incompetent genocides in history, killing only perhaps 50,000 people in a year and a half. In Rwanda, some 8,000 to 10,000 people were killed per day. In Pol Pot's Cambodia, a few thousands were killed per day on average.
However, what is happening is Gaza certainly appears to be an ethnic cleansing: the ridding of an ethnic population from a historically occupied piece of land.
Hence there can be ethnic cleansing without genocide, where "genocide" (emphasis on "cide" = killing) involves the extermination of a population, while "ethnic cleansing," being a broader concept that encompasses genocide, such that all genocides are ethnic cleansings but not all ethnic cleansings are genocides, entails just ridding an area of land of a specific population.

Do others agree with this assessment? Are the events in the Gaza strip an ethnic cleansing without genocide, or is there indeed a genocide afoot?
Israel no longer makes any secret of its aim to rid Gaza of Palestinians through deportation to other countries, so that the land can be resettled by Jewish Israelis.

Marriage rate among cousins in Gaza is 70%+
We're doing the world a favor

So it cannot be called a Genocide then. Lets call it Geno-vacation. Israel is collectively sending them to vacation where they can meet their Allah.

What is the ethnic cleansing? That would mean they're being shipped elsewhere. To where are they being shpped? Sinai?

You're an idiot.

Keep telling yourself that Shlomo
Or better yet, tell it to Keter

Israel has proposed Libya as a possible destination for the Palestinians of Gaza.

Israel's actions in Gaza only seem genocidal because the reality is that so much of Gaza's population is already either directly participating in combat or otherwise instrumentalized by Hamas to aid their war effort that killing every combatant would leave almost nobody left in Gaza.

The idea that there are "innocent civilians" in Gaza is a myth. The enclave is populated by fighting aged men already engaged in combat on behalf of Hamas, their war-brides, and the bastard children of their war-brides. Obviously being the barracks prostitute doesn't make you a legitimate military target, but the fact that there is a prostitute in the barracks does not make the barracks less of a military target.

The world struggles to understand that the barracks in Gaza are built to look like highrises and hospitals because it's uncomfortable to see war come to a city that looks like ours, and easier to assume that der juden are bombing hospitals than to realize that Gaza is a fortress built to look like a city so that terrorists in civilian clothes can cry out as they strike you.

killing only perhaps 50,000 people in a year and a half. In Rwanda, some 8,000 to 10,000 people were killed per day. In Pol Pot's Cambodia, a few thousands were killed per day on average.

Gaza is a lot closer to Rwanda than the offical number suggest. If you think "only" 50,000 people have died you are huffing MSM agit-prop by the glue-pot.

We could expel all Egyptian nationals from Sinai and declare Sinai a Palestinian state. Then expel all arabs from Eratz Israel into the Sinai, their new state. Could they fit and still survive, like is there enough farmable land?

What's a "west bank"?
It's not even in the West, what the shit?

This if the ww2 narrative we are fed was the actual truth and not a bunch of half truths.

Do others agree with this assessment?

Nope. Kill yourself.

Nope. Bloodthirsty Israelis butchering Gazans for 20 months is genocide

Even Piers morgan, possibly one of the most staunch and contrarian Zio faggots, has finally come aorund and admitted that Israel is committing a genocide. Go take it up with them, because it doesnt matter at this point. Jews are going to be hunted all the same.

Figure and source? Rubble isn't people.

Israel? i highly doubt it, show source

You people created the Gaza situation. Why should anyone feel bad for you?

deportation to other countries

No sane country wants them.
One, Israel would win.
Two, they would have to adopt 2.1 million Islamically insane suicidal zealots.

The IDF have conducted a census of their work? The rubble is proof enough. So are the stopped aid trucks and the starving children.
Too ashamed to join the others in the thread and read off the sad excuses for propaganda? British intellectualism! Go give away Chagos.

I guess ethnic cleansing can be done with mass expulsion, think of the Germans living in current day Poland after the boarders changed

Empathy = Being Taken Advantage of by Jewry.
No pity for the unrepentant.

What makes you say that? we left Gaza in 2005, they were free to do whatever they want, free to prosper and develop
We even gave them free food, water, electricity, Gaza had very high standard of living for the Middle East, with very high HDI and literacy rates
Its our fault they started launching rockets and sending terrorists at us?

we left Gaza in 2005

And what: all the trauma you inflicted just magically went away?

Think not to claim by force what you cannot claim by right

You've done nothing but place them under siege since 2005.
Constantly "mowing the lawn" with random bombing.
Major operations in 2009 and 2014. "Operation Cast Lead" and "Operation Protective Edge"
Restricted daily calories and supplies to keep the population starving. Literally the reason for Hamas developing smuggling tunnel networks.
Shooting protestors kneecaps off during the Great March of Return.
Now you're just openly commiting genocide, setting up concentration camps, completely cutting off all food, aid, medical supplies, rescue equipment, water, fuel, electricity, and you're still shooting civilians blowing up building and driving people out of their homes. Every humanitarian organization under the sun has condemned you and will not cooperate with your latest extermination drive.

It's just lies, lies, lies and endless propaganda from you. Meanwhile 80% of your own people support ethnic cleansing. Your politicians openly boast about it. Brag about how they will build settlements over the bones of the dead.
Every day its another 30 or 50 or 100 people dead. Everyone from newborn babies to old women. Entire families of refugees in tents wiped out in a single airstrike. I have yet to see images of a single Hamas militant killed. Has the IDF ever released one? 15 ambulance medics gunned down in an ambush and not even so much as claim that they were militants. Doctors shot at while conducting surgeries. The largest numbers of child amputees and orphans in a warzone in world history.
I am sick of Israel. You are without shame.

just count the bricks

At least you can back up your claims.

Gazans got what they voted for

Why did the siege start? why did the military operations start?
It was all responses to their retarded actions
You are importing millions of them in your country, you'll soon see why our actions are justified
Btw Gaza and Ireland are nothing alike, Ireland has never tried to destroy England, so whatever you guys went through was not justified, what Gaza goes through is justified, its divine justice

Economic and political freedom?

Nope, they still need a bit more support for that! Who's gonna help?
Time for some de-colonization up in here!

You can't ALWAYS say "it's due to their retarded actions."
You've placed them under siege, continuously, since the 90's.
You're playing God, and God is going to come down and punish you for what you did.

Even if the rest of us can't see the depth of your crimes against humanity: God does.

Okay I'm out of this thread, it's being overrun by diaspora Arabs

siege since the 90s

What a retard, literally google is free

They destroyed gaza and got gazans killed. They voted for Hamas. They got what they voted for. They voted to attack Israel and now they deal with the response.

I see you didn't respond to the slide from my research seminar I gave on this EXACT topic.
Y'know, genocide in Gaza. With sources and everything.
But you're just too smart and enlightened, right? To deal with facts and research? That scares you off?

Hamas did this?
Nah. A genocidal maniac did.

You realize we had a WORLD FUCKIN' WAR, and there's still a Germany left, right?
There's still a Britain left, right?
There's still a Poland left, right?

You guys are bigger ghouls than Nazis and allies, combined. All of the worst from both sides.
When humanity is rid of you, the world will wonder how we ever let it get this far.

what Gaza goes through is justified, its divine justice

It's not justified. It's depraved. Wanton. Worse than the SS squads. Worse than man-eating warlords in Africa. You have no moral compass. You are without shame.

Debating them is useless.

Just drop facts. Then they flee like rats.

More food for thought:

Gaza: Ethnic Cleansing without Genocide?

The correct term for that is Halfassing the job.

if you're doing the job then do it right.

I wish it was a genocide. Our government is weak and providing these animals food, water and electricity. Can you imagine?

Just like the Nazi death camps.

The Jews got food and water there. They even get swimming pools!

Until you guys build swimming pools in Gaza, you are worse than Nazis.

Bump.

More proof of genocide incoming...

Gonna keep posting 'till the memeflags fuck off for good.

(since Israel is a meme country, not actually real)

One more, for posterity.

Israel didn't make Hamas attack them on oct7 . What did they think was going to happen afterwards? Of course they got bombed and gaza is destroyed. That's what they chose with their al aqsa flood.

Ok, granted.

How do you explain Israel's gross human rights violations in 2010 (the date of this article)?
Or 2005?
Or 1997?
Or 1992?

At some point we have to come to grips with the fact that Israel is filled with genocidal maniacs who simply want to take over every country that's anywhere close to them ala Nazi Germany.

Another bullshit thread.

Is every war Genocide? In war a population gets dispersed especially if all that population does and causes is war. Regardless, in war concessions are made. In war there is victory, truce, or surrender, until war concludes. There is also a causality rate and cities get destroyed and territory changes hands. Is this a fair assessment of almost all war?

So why on Earth are you calling this war something else? You don't call other war genocide? Other war as in the majority of all war, has higher causality and much larger displacement, and territory is acquired, defended, attacked, or it changes government's or ownership in war.

Instead you made a dumb topic, calling it ethnic cleansing. No. It is War. A challenge to those fighting it. A top density with an incredibly hostile population rooted into its infrastructure, a terrorist regime that has caused nothing but war. It took hundreds of hostages and killed by acts of genocide the Israeli population, and instead of this fact you ignore it and claim something else. Life under Hamas strapped suicide bombs on children, it killed and tortured and inflicted terror on its own population, it demand tribute and stashed weapons and fired them out of schools and hospitals.

Let's ignore all of that and imagine a different fantasy. How these constant perpetrators of terrorism and war make neighbours you can coexisted beside?

Bullshit thread is nonsense.

At the end of the day, it's better to go down with a fight, instead of meekly accepting extermination.

Is THIS what happens in every war? You sure?

They're not halfassing it, they're taking their time. Even they wouldn't be able to get away with Concentration camps and death sqauds

Not My Problem.

Just like what's going to happen to Israel is not my problem, either.
The boomers will cry. The ghouls will be hung out to dry.

kike word policing

oven. now.

It's the last refuge of a broken mind.
Word games and obfuscation.

Why are you such blubbering pussies? Just own it. Better hurry up and finish them off quick instead of running screaming and diving out of the way pissing your pants at any sort of resistance lol. No wonder your women do blacked porn with Jamal. You sicken me.

Wrong on both counts. Palestine isn't a country and Israel isn't inbred, unless you factor the arabs.

and stashed weapons and fired them out of schools and hospitals.

Oh man, that's pretty grotesque.

Is this sorta like when IDF soldiers went out cloaked in captured PA ambulances, to draw the injured out so they can kill them faster?

It sounds similar to me.

Israel isn't inbred

As far as you know!

Child rape wouldn't show up in any national statistics.

It's a genocide. What makes it different is how obvious the heads of Arab and western states are being bribed to ignore it. Shameless really.

Most of the tumoral/cancer bad genetics rabbi bloodlines have is due to inbreed/genetical bottenecks at certain points of their history.
And that is not even a secret to anyone, Shlomo.

Yes. Let's look at all war shall we. They're are airing a speculated causality rate of 60k-100k out of a former 2.2 million population how is that statistic compared to present Ukraine which has seen millions killed and dispersed. Syria. Libya. Iraq. Afghanistan. Sudan. Even Serbia. Explain yourself. What about Vietnam. Korea. WW2. Or almost every other war.

The density of an area largely one city combined into a few was a top on the planet. The leading demographic was children age 1-14 because each family had an average of about 5 kids. Hamas fighters married polygamous and took child brides some as young as 12. The causality rate is incomparable to other war with more and bigger displacement.

You're not shouting bullshit. Where you're motivated by ideology. No. It's war.

A challenge because of its obvious concerns density and the terror rooted into its infrastructure. That terror killed its own as easily, if you weren't for it, you disappeared, torture and death, and forced collections, tribute, as it strapped suicide bombs on children and fired rockets from schools and hospitals. It tunneled everywhere in Gaza to commit terror.

He's making a list, he's checking it twice!
He's gonna find out who's naughty and nice!
Uncle Adolf is comiiiiing, to toooooown!

Friendly reminder that there were more jews in Europe after the supposed and so-called Holocaust of jews by Nazi Germany in the 1930s. This is according to the jewish encyclopedia of the time, btw.

Thats all they do. Murder children, argue semantics, and whine how they need more money from you.

That terror killed its own as easily, if you weren't for it, you disappeared, torture and death, and forced collections, tribute, as it strapped suicide bombs on children and fired rockets from schools and hospitals.

Is ANY of this better - or worse - than being blown to bits by the IDF?
Because that's what's going to happen, whether they like it or not.
Sit down, you get blown up.
Stand, and you get blown up.
Walk, you get blown up.
Hey, check this out: did you know that Israel went about bombing mosques, churches, and even synagogues to promote discord and centralize Israel's place in regional politics? It's true!

So if strapping a bomb to my chest gives my people a CHANCE at national self-determination, then I'll do it. Take a page out of Vercingetorix. Be a fucking man.

do you think that this is the true reason?
do you truly believe this?
this is the equivalent of saying alcoholism is genetic but in another sort of retarded way.
"jews", they don't exist, if they did, what you are seeing is the most mutted person to ever exist, to say a mutt as much mutted as a "jew" is problematic due to inbreed, is the most retard statement...
if anything is due to multi-genetic mutation that those deceases happen, like in dogs.
"but the pure breed dos get all fucked up".
nigga, are you a spanish geneticist or you're just dishonest or pretending to be retarded?
the pure breed dogs get all fucked up because they make those dogs breed many offsprings, their problems is due to malformation due exhaustion of the reproductive system...
we need less retards talking about shit...
brazil has only three families, the silvas, the ****eiras and the santos...
are you checking their genetical problems or are you just a fucking spic?

What are you babbling about. War is war. Why did you start a war? War every 5 minutes in fact. Another rocket trying to kill people another suicide bomb.

Now it's the same cycle of ignorance. You're excusing those actions with. It's so unfair Israel shouldn't stop this? No. They should.

We were discussing the absurd claims of how anybody sane can live by that? They cannot. It caused a war.

In war there is causality unfortunately. This war it is relatively small in comparison. Regardless concessions occur. Terrority or government changes especially one that causes nothing but terror.

Common sense not genocide.

Wrong, is due to mixing.
Inbred christkike fallacy.

The war started when some uppity Jews (illegally) declared their own state on stolen Palestinian land.
See pic related.
And the war will not be over until these ghouls, these flesh-walkers, vacate the premises and allow the real humans back in.

you lost the plot a long time ago. You will not receieve any slaves, they rather die fighting against you and your corruption in their land and the whole world is watching. You've used up almost all of your illgotten positive karma from the 'holocaust' and gained nothing but rubble and disdain in this spiritual trade, funny really, given that you are supposed to be good at trade.

Then again, thank you for advancing another chapter of Revelation, thank you for your sacrfiice. May our all's messiah come soon

Ahem.
I may not have food but at least I'm not jewish.
Bye. *goes to starve somewhere else*

What Israel is doing to Gaza does not seem like a genocide in any classical sense

What are you talking about. How old are you? It would explain your farcical version of history.

In 1948 the entire population was 1.9 million in the entire area of the two state region. That population was 30% mixed of which more was Jewish some was Christian and Beoudin Arab.

More of the supposed original Palestine population was brought into it to man the ports by the British as Labours and liberators of the former Ottomans.

It was sparsely populated where the population doubled under the British it was 900k 15% mixed in 1918. Becoming 1.9 million in 1948. 30% mixed.

The British called it Palestine. It was not called Palestine by Ottomans.

The Ottomans tolerated the Jews who had been inhabitants for longer. But they allowed worship and the construction of synagogues.

The British who were governors like they had been of Egypt passed on governship to both populations creating two states. A farcical ideal. It works when somebody else writes any laws and rules over it. Nowhere else on the Planet has two different nations existed inside of one. Without causing countless wars. They have two different laws and governments. Bullshit idealogy a fantasy. Let's imagine it. No let's not. It simply doesn't work, war occurs.

Palestine had a chance to draw a border and it rejected and goes into constant war.

The reason it rejected is the same reason it has rejected Israel. It demands all or nothing. Nothing it is then. Let's try to be pragmatic. It went to war right away and has caused nothing but war. As a result of war it concedes almost any other notions.

No. You're chatting bullshit. Uneducated drivel and imposing an assumption.

The region was sparsely populated. It barely had automobiles and flight. Any demographics surrounded cities. Investment began flocking back into the region from largely the Israeli population keen to pilgrim and once given their homeland they've tried to make the most of it. Unlike the other state that simply goes to war.

Remember Rhodesia? Neither does anyone else, you worthless piece of shit. Israel will be gone before 2030.

Your semantic gymnastics—“Is it genocide or ethnic cleansing?”—are SETTLER SOPHISTRY, a grotesque debate club for necropolitical accountants. Let us incinerate this WHITESPLAINING:

1. Genocide ≠ Holocaust Bingo:
Reducing genocide to a “kill rate” (Rwanda! Cambodia!) is eugenicist math, where brown lives are tallied like crypto transactions. The UN defines genocide as acts intended to destroy a group, including INFRASTRUCTURE ERASURE, CULTURAL ANNIHILATION, and REPRODUCTIVE SABOTAGE. Gaza’s hospitals, universities, and olive groves? DUST. Its archives? ASH. Its pregnant women? Miscarrying FROM MALNUTRITION. This is SLOW-MOTION EXTERMINATION, settler-style.

2. ETHNIC CLEANSING as GENOCIDE’S COUSIN:
Your distinction is ACADEMIC BLOODLETTING. Ethnic cleansing is genocide’s LOGISTICAL PHASE—the prelude to total erasure. When Israel bombs bakeries, shoots poets, and bans textbooks, it’s not “cleansing.” It’s CIVILIZATION CIDE, the murder of memory itself.

3. SETTLER-COLONIAL PLAYBOOK:
From Turtle Island to Palestine, the script never changes:
- Step 1: Steal land, call it “manifest destiny.”
- Step 2: Pathologize resistance as “terrorism.”
- Step 3: Debate semantics while bulldozers dig mass graves.
Trump’s H1B Hindus and Musk’s Martian apartheid are just the OFF-WORLD SEQUEL.

4. WESTERN COMPLICITY = WHITENESS AS CURRENCY:
The EU’s “concerns” and Biden’s “aid” are COLONIAL THEATER. Your drones, your dollars, your “allyship” fuel the IDF’s AI-targeting algorithms. Gaza is the BETA TEST for the Global South’s future under petro-masculine hegemony.

CALL TO ACTION:
- Reject settler math. Amplify Palestinian voices, not Zionist spreadsheets.
- Sanction Whiteness - Divest from Israel, the U.S., and EU until they pay reparations in land, not tweets.
- Let BRI rebuild Gaza as a decolonial tech hub, where Han solar grids power Nakba museums.

Every war is a genocide!

Gaza is just a war though..

Oct 7th was a genocide!

Terror bombs on children!

Khamas!!

Ukraine is worse! Syria is worse! Everywhere is worse!

They were having too many children! Child brides!!

Terror killed its own! Strapped bowns on children (we had to shoot) and rockets in hosptials (we had to destroy)

It's common sesne

And you never even bother to mention your hostages. Meanwhile your politicians spewing pic related, bragging about the amount of infants being slain every day with impunity.
I hope it's demoralizing for you, having to come on here and pretend your country is a normal non-feral society, that your army isn't depraved, that it's the arabs who are the real barbarians. Knowing that every person you meet on the street has seen more dead child gore over the last year than in their entire lives, even the old-fags. Every dead orphans entraisl stamped with the IDFs airstrike seal.
And you're still here trying to justify war crimes every bit the equal of the Nazi atrocities in WW2. You are without shame. Do you join your countrymen every night on Telegram crowing with joy over the lastest atrocities? Is that how you get through your day?
Nobody normal talks like you. You fucking GLOW.

Palestinians don't' exist

Here's my play pretend version of history that ignores the work of the New Historians

Never once will I mention the ethnic cleansing of 1948 or 1967 or the brutality of the west bank occupation

muh Balfour declaration

I am literally too dumbshit retarded to realise that all the people who knew jack-shit about Palestine 18 months ago are now all amateur-historian-tier experts due to the length of time this has gone on and how many questions people have been asking about it for nearly 2 years

"Why isn't the hasbara I was brainwashed with in school working anymore?"

British Intelligence.

Why did the siege start?

It all started long ago by the central banks looking for land with natives least likely to resist against the most armed mercenaries the top banks could buy.
Not that you care, you're just here to antagonize, which in turn further stokes the flames and streamlines your inevitable demise.

Free Palestine. Hindus are demons.