Illegals will no longer have their corpus of habeas

Illegals will no longer have their corpus of habeas

Why would illegals have any rights at all? How can you give rights to the whole world?

Good. Next time my neighbours dog shits in my yard I’m going to call ICE on him and say he’s an illegal lol

They never had it.
Habeas corpus is a constitutional right of the President to deport illegal aliens.

Yup. They are not entitled to a court hearing. They lost that right when they entered the country illegally.

Holy based

That doesn't make sense. You are saying that they had that right when they were outside of the US?

didn't lincoln do this during the civil war?

If they were applying for US citizenship the legal way. No, that doesn’t mean coming into US illegally and then trying to apply

Can't apply for a citizenship from another country. Are you dumb?

I want to habeas her corpus if you know what I mean (fuck her ass).

Habeeb teh corse?

HAYBE AHH CORPUS

Did Lincoln?

When I was growing up, my dad would always gather our family together and we would pray for Israel. It was instilled in me from a very young age that the Jews were Gods chosen people, that Israel was the Holy Land, and that we should always pray for them. I brought those fundamental ideals with me when I was in the State Legislature, when I served in Congress, and now as Governor of South Dakota. Supporting the State of Israel and our Jewish community has always been extremely important to me. It’s important to support Israel for spiritual, historical, and national security reasons. I am continuing to stand with the Jewish people by signing historic legislation to protect them from antisemitism. I was shocked and devastated to see the horrific terrorist attacks on the State of Israel on October 7th, 2023. And I have continued to be heartbroken to see radical individuals in the United States of America standing with Hamas – standing with terrorists. Ever since October 7th, we have seen a shocking spike in antisemitic acts of hatred around the world. We have even seen isolated incidents right here in South Dakota. No one should ever feel concerned for their safety when going to school, when going to work, when they are just trying to live their normal lives. But that is the reality for so many Jewish people across America right now. We see antisemitism on college campuses, among high school students, and even as young as middle and elementary school students. That is unacceptable. I was very proud to sign HB 1076, a very important bill to combat antisemitism.

This bill defines antisemitism and makes it easier to prove when discriminatory conduct is motivated by antisemitism. It is an impactful piece of legislation that will ensure the safety of Jewish people and strengthen South Dakota’s anti-discrimination laws. We held a beautiful, moving signing ceremony for this bill in the Rotunda of our State Capitol in Pierre. Many prominent Jewish leaders attended, including Elan Carr, the CEO of the Israeli-American Council for Action, nationally renowned Jewish leader and founder of the Jacobson Society Dan Rosen, Rabbi and Director of the National Jewish Advocacy Center Dr. Mark Goldfeder, Rabbi Mendel Alperowitz of the Chabad Jewish Center of South Dakota, Renie Schreiber on behalf of Yinam Cohen, Consul General of Israel to the Midwest, and Jordan Cope from Stand With Us. A few of our special guests said some words about the impact this legislation will have for the Jewish people. You can view footage of the full bill signing ceremony here. There are a few other people to thank for their efforts in getting this bill passed and signed into law, including Representative Mike Stevens, Representative Rebecca Reimer, Dan Lederman, and Stephen Rosenthal. The prime sponsors of this bill, Representative Deutsch and Senator Mehlhaff, put in a lot of hard work with my office and with members of the Jewish community to make sure this is the best bill possible to stop antisemitism and hate. This bill puts the gold standard International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism into state law. I hope that more states across our great nation will follow this example that we are setting here in South Dakota. It is more important now than ever for our nation’s leaders to stand up and fight against antisemitism. We must always work to ensure the security of God’s chosen people.

she looks like a man in drag. lmao.

Were going to shove your "corpus fagmeus" up your ass and send you colonials boating, flying and swimming back to the old world, gringo.

Aztlan is rising.

Heebias corpsus

He needed an act of congress to do it yeah. Congress can do it by passing a law giving the president the power to suspend it.

kek republitars

Your latin skills are unparalelled.

No, this has been answered in the 19th century. The president needs an act of congress giving him that power, and congress can give him the power to suspend it if there is an invasion. Already settled during the civil war.

deport citizens, something they have already done, retard.

Where US citizens have been deported. Let me guess, you get your news from MSN and going to day the two kids who
mother said they wanted them to go with her. They can come back anytime. We don’t want to separate families, right?

you have to accept 20 million illegal aliens because of the rule of law

but what about the rule of law when they were illegally allowed in?
what if we overthrow your jewish bullshit and put you in the ground and deport them, what then?

It's because you already had green card that you got in the US. You just went to visit your original home shit hole and applied online.
The only thing s foreigner can get abroad is a non immigrant visa. Unless they have a relative citizen live in USA who can petition for them to get some kind of parole to enter the country. You can't just start naturalization process there lol.

Once an immigration officer determines that a noncitizen is subject to expedited removal, that same officer orders the noncitizen removed. Unlike other removal orders, an expedited removal order cannot normally be appealed and carries a five-year reentry bar in most circumstances.

americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/expedited-removal

Retard, you don't need a judge or a trial. Just an immigration officer.

It happens all the time. A retarded guy named Mark Lyttle got deported to Mexico back in 2012 because he was retarded and didn't properly explain where he was from due to being retarded. Not even a new issue.
You have to have actual hearing to have rule of law. This isn't the holohoax museum where you can just make up stories.

Still subject to habeas corpus. Which is fair as it's a pretty low standard. Habeas corpus is literally just the requirement they have a reason to be holding someone. Like pretty bare minimum, and then being illegal would be a reason to be holding them.

It does not happen all the time. Mark Lyttle was a notional story and had a massive lawsuit because of it. And that’s exactly what would happen if they deported actual US citizens. Oh, you think the person families, the media, lefties aren’t gong to know about it!

But that's why we have habeas corpus. Literally just a hearing to check to make sure stuff is based in actual laws. So the cops can't just detain someone because "reasons" without giving any. You ever notice the early life of the people promoting suspension of habeas corpus?

More then that, it would remove due process which is issue to all of this. Lefties are demanding every illegal get a court date. It’s a pure stall and obstruction tactic because it would decades decades and billions to give them all court dates. ICE is not going to fr holding illegals, they want to deport them back to whatever the fuck they came from

How do you determine someone's here illegally? If I lock you up, say you have no rights because you're here illegally, how do you get in front of a judge to prove you're actually a US citizen with rights? Habeas Corpus, that's how. Moron.

You don’t need a hearing to find out if someone is illegal. Just an immigration official. Police don’t need a judge to find out who someone is when they process them during booking.

What are inalienable rights?

Things the US Constitution grants to US citizens. Do you think the US Constitution grants me, a Brit, rights? What if I put one foot in Maine?

The issue libshits are stirring up is that you can't prove someone is an illegal immigrant. Do you have anything on you right now proving you're a US citizen? So it's up to YOU to prove that this person doesn't have a document SOMEWHERE, LITERALLY ANYWHERE, proving they're a US citizen.

Are you an idiot. Most these illegals are in the system from “catch and release” And pretty easy to verify. What’s your social security? What’s your birthday? Every US citizen is in the system.

humans still have rights.
this is why gitmo was such an atrocity.
jews are not human tho and can safely be disposed of.

What if the officer didn't have a reason at all to be holding that hearing? Exactly why we have habeas corpus. Same reason we used to have quo warranto and bills of peace prior to Administrative Procedure and Class Actions. Rule of law means actually having rules the government has to follow.

due process

They had it, but then they skipped their court dates. At some point you have to punish criminals and not let them destroy your society.

You have to have actual hearing to have rule of law.

No you don't. If you're CBP working the border and you watch someone from the Mexican side of the river swim the river and then climb over the razor wire fence, you don't have to then give them a hearing. Fuck you, fuck all "but muh law" types who use the law as a ratchet - ignoring it when it suits them and then trying to wedge it in when it suits them. Fuck off and get killed, faggot.

We are not talking about US citizens, this is directly for illegals. Lefties and courts are obstructing mass deportation. We had a fucking invasion of illegals under Biden. We do not have man power or time to be giving every fucking illegal a court date. Even if done in large numbers it would take decades and billions!

Rights are a fiction between civilized people in times of peace.

so we aren't civilized? i'd hate to start eating other people simply because we need more border security

say someone I dont like is illegal

they get deported with no recourse

problem fags?

Now tell me how you can work out if someone is an illegal. I'm serious. A man claiming his name is Pablo Ramirez is detained by ICE on suspicion of being an illegal. He has no documentation on him and refuses to speak a single word to the police. How in this situation could they determine if he's an illegal?

Illegal aliens are not civilized. The first thing they do is violate the rules in entering the country.

Retarded responses. Habeas corpus is the absolute right to have a judge review a detention to make sure it's legal, not a right to a trial. If you don't have it you don't have rule of law because there is absolutely no right to check if ICE or DHS is detaining citizens illegally and deporting them. This right literally predates the Magna Carta, like it's the most fundamental right that exists. Maybe it's not in the Talmud but it's in our system.

Why are we giving illegals more rights than any US citizen in same situation in these shithole countries. “We’re better than that” Fuck that. They ass raped our immigration system. Get out

Illegals will no longer

be in my country and it feels good man.

DHS already has a list of most of them. During Biden's term, CBP would process them before handing them off to an NGO for distribution. They recorded all information they could including biometrics, I think iris images or something, probably fingerprints too.

good

Rights are not a real thing. They are fiction that depends on the strength of force you can wield.

He has no documentation on him and refuses to speak a single word to the police

Then out he goes. Too bad.

Without habeas corpus the cops could just come to your house and arrest you, never arraign you and hold you indefinitely for no reason at all. That's why it's been a codified as a right since 1166. Like even a medieval king understood that you had a right to have a justification for why you were in the dungeon.

Use use brain if you even have one and think exactly what would go down actual US citizens where getting deported

Now you get accused of Nazi Germany "Papers, please!" policies. You also run the risk of potentially deporting someone who was a genuine US citizen who just didn't have any of their documentation.

For the record, I'm on the side of Trump. Third worlders are making a HUGE humanitarian crisis in the west, and the west is too soft to stop it, and it's gonna end really badly.

Same question. Use your brain and think exactly what would happen if cops started doing that.

If there wasn't habeas nothing would go down as they could arrest someone and disappear them. It's quite literally your right not to get disappeared.

You don't need to carry any documents. They ask for full name and birthdate and they can find your info. You could even give your social security number. ICE has tons of tools at their disposal. Birth certificates, passports, state ID, etc as well as their own databases when they catch an illegal. They can use biometrics from previous captures and deportations.

If they are a literal downsyndrom person that can't identify themselves with name and birthdate, enjoy their deportation to anywhere the immigration officer wants. Not our problem. So no, you don't have to carry your papers everywhere. They have tons of tools at their disposal to find out if you are here illegally or not.

Every US citizens when pulled over or questioned by police has to verify who they are. “License and registration please?” And if you refuse to verify who you are, they can take in and hold you until they can find out who you are.

They ask for full name and birthdate and they can find your info

Doesn't work, you have a right to remain silent thus aren't obligated to provide any information whatsoever.

Read the sticky

You say "will" like this is guaranteed to happen

What if you are drunk or they mishear you? What if they just lie and say that you are illegal? Without habeas corpus they can literally disappear people. Like they could go arrest your neighbor and disappear him, and if you went to the station or whatever they would be like oh never heard of him is he missing, do you want to file a missing person report? Again. Literally solved in 1166. Most basic fucking right that exists.

The US government already does that. It was never a problem until illegal aliens were being deported under Trump. Now all you slimy kikes crawl out of the woodwork to cite law at us. I don't care. I didn't make the law you cite, I didn't agree to it, I don't respect it. I respect force.

IT'S HABEANNING

US citizens were disappeared after Jan 6. No charges, no hearing, nothing. Fuck you for pretending you care when it affects illegal aliens.

EXCEPT THE PROBLEM IS THAT ACTUAL ILLEGALS ARE ABUSING HABEAS CORPUS BECAUSE BACK IN 1166 IT WAS MUCH HARDER TO MOVE FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY AND THE BENEFITS OF DOING SO WERE NON-EXISTENT

NOW THIRD WORLDS ARE LYING THEIR WAY INTO WESTERN COUNTRIES AND ABUSING THEIR LEGAL SYSTEMS TO GET AWAY WITH IT

THIS IS GENUINELY A TREMENDOUSLY BAD HUMANITARIAN CRISIS THAT'S JUST BUILDING AND BUILDING

you watch someone from the Mexican side of the river swim the river and then climb

It depends on if they are an asylum seeker from certain counties listed as protected or just a random Mexican looking for work. Most that get instantly or fast turn over sort of deported are just going yeah I'm Mexican, ya got me..
I get the asylum system gets abused. Yet that's still the law. Pretty much anyone but a diplomat gets constitutional rights just by being in the USA. Plus the bulk of illegals are over staying visas, not border jumpers..
It's also simply not criminal to be in the USA with the wrong paper work unless you have already been deported once before and came back. Even then it's barely a crime.
Again, I get this is abused and these sort of legal rules and laws piss people off but it's still our system and laws. We can change them in correct ways but a president can't just executive order constitutional changes.

Fuck spics hope they all drown in the Rio grande . Cry me a river spic lover

Damn the kike chip in your brain really is going haywire huh.

Sure, and they can detain you, take your prints, and hold you until they identity who you are. The can also charge you with failing to cooperate with a police officer and then you got to say who the fuck you are to the judge. And the judge will look at you like a total asshole when you can’t give him a good reason of not telling police who you are because “muh right to stay silent”

All these hypotheticals are such disingenuous bullshit. If the government wants to disappear you, they will disappear you with no ceremony whatsoever.

The can also charge you with failing to cooperate with a police officer

Exercising your right to remain silent is a crime now?

US citizens were disappeared after Jan 6.

That didn't happen. If anything it was very, very public as the feds were looking to make examples of the shitheads...

It's literally a writ filed with the court, you don't even get a hearing if the writ isn't granted. Prisoners file them constantly with like "motion to suck muh dick" and it just get denied. Like takes 10 seconds of a clerk's time. The issue is ICE is full of retards who fuck up and so the writs get granted because they didn't actually follow the law.

I do not care what the law can be twisted to say. Fuck you and your bullshit kike laws. Common sense says that someone who climbs razor wire a mile away from an official point of entry is not a lawful immigrant under any concession. The country wasn't built on legalese it was built on murdering uppity foreigners (brits).

Overwhelmingly the people advocating for foreigners to gain entry to everywhere but Israel, are jews.

Exactly they have biometrics on the vast majority because they were let in on one of the bullshit refugee programs. They don't all need a fucking trial. That's a bad faith argument from the left because they know it's impossible.

How do you know they're illegal without due process?

BECAUSE THEYRE BROWN AND DONT SPEAK ENGLISH DUM DUM

b-b-but what about this, what about that-t-t

Neighbor arrested? Oh look now the cops knows where he lives. They have an address to work with. Is he renting or owns? Oh owns then surely they have tons of documents in order to purchase a home. Oh renting to an illegal? Landlords can require ID in many states on their application. Almost like they can interview landlords and family members.

b-b-but he was drunk or mishear

And they can't wait a few hours for them to sober up? They don't deport them the same night. Mishear then surely the ID they pull up won't match or comes up with nothing. It's not that hard but liberals will make every exception in the book. There are plenty of ways a person can prove who they are to the government, just not illegals who have no documentation of anything since birth. If that's you, enjoy your deportation but that rarely ever happens (no, i didn't say it never happens).

Lincoln did it. There's precedent.

You can't make the post above and expect me to not be laughing. Like you seem like the type who is retarded enough to accidentally get deported. Fucking kek. I still think you have a right to file your "motion to trust the plan" just not to have it granted.

That’s not exercising your right, that’s you thinking you are smart and gaming the system. Pure nigger behavior. Telling police something as simple as who
you are is not incriminating yourself unless you are an illegal. Which they will find like anyways. Exercising your right to stay silence is not speaking with the police without a lawyer so they don’t try and incriminate you. If you need a lawyer present to tell police who you are, you for a lot problems, which again they will find out anyways

ICE agents should just show suspects a piece of text and ask them to read it, followed by images of things only a native would know. If I showed someone picrel and they identified it as anything other than a barm cake, I'd know they weren't from around here.

aislop

the absolute irony in the statement

how does a US citizen prove they're a US citizen without due process?

Most states have laws that require you to identify yourself to police. You don't have to carry an ID or tell them anything more than I am such an such without lying. Generally you should never tell them anything more without a lawyer

Yeah that's why we need habeas corpus, so that if someone is too retarded to know they have to identify themselves and is being held in jail to be deported, they can talk to a lawyer and get one filed to have their brother come in and identify them. The replies itt show exactly how people are literally too retarded not to get accidentally deported.

Federal national agency check is due process

is not a lawful immigrant under any concession

and even that isn't a crime you midwit. Either one believes in the rule of law and people having constitutional rights or you don't for some reason. Yet you can't middle of the street this shit. At least not at the level of over looking directly doing unconstitutional sort of BS.
We aren't talking about HOA rules being unfair or wait, why does a person get more years for robbery with an automatic than a revolver? Why is that a law/enhancement?
Some of this stuff is bed rock foundation level constitutional level laws and legal standards. Attempted to be end around dodged by a presidential team. It's sketchy as hell.... Just because you might like the actions and outcome this time doesn't make it ok. Being we will have other presidents.

We have a process for asylum seekers to enter the country legally. Most asylum seekers aren't actually following that because you're supposed to head for the nearest safe country and apply for asylum there, not fly around to the complete opposite side of the planet to shop around for where you want to seek asylum.

too retarded to know their own name and birthdate

Too retarded to come back after deportation. Fuck them. It's actually a good thing.

Based. People voted for Trump, not for some piece of paper. Trump should have authority over the constitution.

What if someone grew up in rural Texas, was born at home, homeschooled, and never got issued their SSN and got picked up for deportation at say 18 because their parents died in a car wreck? Should they have a right to contest the fact they don't exist in federal records?

Illegals do get due process. The thing is generally when ICE raids and grabs people, they already know ahead of time that the person is here illegally, they're just at the "shove them on the first plane back where they came from" part of the process.

Panic of US citizens getting deported is pure fear mongering bullshit. Minute even one gets deported it’s over. Backslash would be unimaginable

They are deported because they are determined to be illegal, there was due process.

no they need MORE due process akshully

Yeah sure. You're going to be facing the fucking wall sooner than you think.

tell me how

remember the nsa and how they can just spy on anyone? well, that.

lol anymore hoops we all need to jump with your exceptions? How about when the parents die, they go to their house or look up the kids parents and find out everything they need to know. Then get that kid an ID/SSN? It's almost like they would then need a caretaker who then gets the kid the proper identification.

You don't seem to understand that without the if A you must B sort of systems in place B can easily never happen. Your acting like oh well if you have this or that then when..... Except without mandatory legal processes in place the state can just 100% skip all that pesky you give your side, your case, your proof etc part of the process.
You get black bagged in North Dakota. Get shipped off to Arizona with in a few hours. Your family goes hey where is Anon? Police state comes back with we don't know what you're talking about..... and that's the end of it. Now I don't think we will reach that point in the USA but that's why the system is important.

You really trust a Talmudic troon who prays for Israel every night like Noem to tell the truth about that?

get pulled over by cops

"license and registration please"

*OMG LITERALLY NAZI GERMANY!!*

You fucking leftists and your bullshit hypotheticals and corner cases. If said person somehow managed to not be in the system at all, which is incredibly unlikely because everyone in rural Texas is on some kind of gibs (I live in Texas) , then yes, no action should be taken on that person until their identity is confirmed. Statistically this is near zero percent of the modern population so it isn't the clever gotcha you think it is. Love all this phony concern for the law out of the left now. Obama knew DACA was illegal and did it anyway, I'm sure you were oh so concerned then too.

can you prove anything you're saying? no? then shut the fuck up.

For all you idiots with pure bitch think this is what would play out

Trump suspends Habeas Corpus. Immediate pushback back ALL Dems
Neocon and bootlicking congressional Republicans start to break rank because they are scared of losing their jobs because midterms are coming!
Trump actually deports US citizens, these same Republicans would join Dems to block Trump. Dems use this for their campaigns on why they need to take Congress. They win by a landslide and start impeachment process for Trump

There is no 'rule of law', you fucking nigger.

Maybe it's not in the Talmud but it's in our system.

Oh I see, now its "jewish" to stop illegal immigration. Got it, white nationalist nazi firmware update in process, processing... you know that really clears it all up now.
Where in the 'talmud' does it say someone should cut your dick off and shove it down your throat?

what if your aunt had balls?

Cope (((beaner)))

You don't understand that illegals don't have constitutional rights because they are up for immediate deportation. They don't get the right to own guns because of the second amendment, they don't get due process either. You and other libs just want to use every exception you can think of but it only makes your argument look foolish.

That's why we have habeas corpus and due process. The reason you can suspend it by act of congress during a war is so the army can lock up mystery people skulking around, read Ex parte Merryman and the historical materials around it. Suspending habeas corpus isn't even about letting the government deport people or anything like that, it's just the right to hold without justification. If they have a lawful right to detain an deported someone habeas corpus literally has zero impact on it, the issue is Noem doesn't follow the law.

Getting illegals out of here is what most of the country voted for. No one is going to win on fighting Trump trying to get illegals out of here.

still complaining about made-up hypotheticals

Jesus...

You have all the rights that are not reserved for purely citizens, like the right to vote.

Anyway every alien had the right to produce the body (habeas corpus) when they presented themselves at a port of entry. If they snuck into the nation they had the right to present the body at the time of an arrest to determine their legal status as a criminal alien.

So if I say you are illegal you no longer have any right to contest that? You are illegal and need to be deported to Israel immediately then. Thx.

I’m just going to leave this right here.

The system is bullshit

We still must uphold and follow the system

because you're supposed to head for the nearest safe country and apply for asylum there

except that isn't true on any level. There has been two international treaty sort of write up for this issue, one after WWII if I remember right and all of it reworked in somewhere in the late 1960. All the major nation states etc.. Ok I looked it up, it's the 1951 Refugee Convention...
not once, anywhere, does it say an asylum seeker must go to the closest friendly country or port of entry etc. That's just one of those wrong fake facts people spread on social media.

actual events that happened are fictional

That's the Holocaust you are thinking of Ari. The civil war was real.

this is why you lost. absolutely womanly behavior.

So if I say you are illegal you no longer have any right to contest that?

There's no need to contest it because they can just check their systems and see if he's a citizen or not, it would take maybe 5 minutes once they have a name and address to work with.

Shut up spic.

Imagine the federal govt forgetting to issue someone a SSN and missing out on taxing that persons life for 70 years.
Dont be silly. Some things just do not happen.

it was real in my mind

lol. now that's projection.

see, the nigger cant even argue a point. Just eat a 12 gauge already.

You are brainwashed about what rights are. As I keep saying, they are fiction. They are a polite agreement between civilized people. When one side decides they don't exist, then they don't exist. We are past that point. Illegal aliens do not know or care about your made up rules, and neither do I unless and until they benefit me personally, and they don't, so fuck off.

You're not going to say or do shit to anyone.

Yeah, that's why I don't understand their argument. Like if the illegal is lawful held it's a 10 second process to glance at their writ and deny it. And they get due process from the ICE paperwork. Like the government needing to do basic paperwork is a low bar and this is clearly a pretend problem.

These people did and do exist, but most were born in the years immediately following the introduction of social security and are already dead. Those that remain are almost certainly in the system via some other means by now, you can't function in this society without ID despite leftists pretending that there are huge numbers of these people at voting time. It's irrelevant at this point, for all intents and purposes.

Amish don't have SSN cards.
You are illegal paco.

You’re right, this is for people on here going “Ree What’s going to stop Orange Man from deporting actual US citizens”

If you think illegals are protected under the constitution then show me a case where an illegal immigrant demands the right to own a gun because of the second amendment. You can't.

Federal Law:

18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5) makes it unlawful for any person who is illegally or unlawfully in the United States to possess a firearm or ammunition

The Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 makes it a felony with a 10 year prison sentence for “illegal Aliens” to own or possess a gun. Unlike the other categories of persons prohibited from possessing guns, the law forbids ALL undocumented immigrants from owning or possessing guns, even those that have never committed any of the listed crimes. Violations can carry a prison sentence of up to 10 years

Why hasn't any illegal challenged this?
This literally proves that illegals are NOT protected under our constitution.

illegals don't have constitutional rights

but they do... you're confusing different systems of immigration and enforcement being you clearly don't have the educational background to grasp what is going on here. So you're going nah nah I don't like it..
and keep in mind a lot of the people being held aren't illegals. Many where green card holders or other on the legal path to citizenship too.

You don't understand that illegals don't have constitutional rights because they are up for immediate deportation. They don't get the right to own guns because of the second amendment, they don't get due process either.

They literally do get the right of due process. That's the whole part when arrested they get identified and their citizenship status is established. Even just being arrested is a part of the due process. They have every constitutional right that they are entitled to. If you ever read the US constitution you find it clearly denotes different classes of legal status. This was because of the need to classify slaves, freemen and Indian tribes. Aliens legal or not are included in all the language that classes a person, but excluded from 'citizens' and 'the people'.

They are protected with the right to be presumed legal until proven illegal. Just like how meme flags are presumed Jewish until proven to be jeets.

I accept the concession. :)

no, they dont. they why they get exploited for pennies.

Yeah good luck with that one.
Keep inventing scenarios, for your beaner love. You're right, we're going to suspend your rights and sending you down south in a shipping container so cartel spics can diarrhea shit in your mouth for 12 hours before the unceremoniously dump your husk into a trash ditch somewhere in the chihuahuan desert. You've done it, you've uncovered your own destiny Sherlock.

>Amish don't have SSN cards.

Technically correct, but they do have SSN even if they don't have the card.

Why hasn't any illegal challenged this?

This literally proves that illegals are NOT protected under our constitution.

It literally proves that legal aliens and illegal aliens have rights, as the 2nd amendment only applies to 'the people' not persons.

Amish don't have SSN cards

Right, ICE might Brother Jebediah thinking he’s an illegal

illegals are innocent till proven guilty

no. that only applies to citizens.

Sorry forgot to tag you But it is cruel to assert even a Jew is a jeet. Like just because Jews are pure even doesn't make them feces eating jeets.

Amish don't have SSN cards.

Just because they don't have a card doesn't mean they don't have a number. Nice pilpul
secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110225035

political views shift back and forth and so does who is in power. You're acting like it's 100% fine for someone you might agree with to stomp around and break anything they want. Being hahaha Team A has the ball and we will keep it forever. That sort of shit is exactly how we end up getting rights stripped when someone else is in power.

no. that only applies to citizens.

It applies to everyone. Otherwise any legal alien could be put in prison, not jail, and then keep them until they proved they are innocent without even the lowest standard of suspicion or cause.

we

Nice admission to being a Jew
I mean you might be retarded enough to get accidentally deported
Might be filled out wrong, they use the wrong name. It's amazing how fucked paperwork can be. That's why they need to prove you are illegal, even just administratively. Otherwise they could just deport completely random people and not even have records of it.

so. exactly what we have been doing with detention centers. no shit? its almost like.....

But the constitution!

show me a case where an illegal immigrant demands the right to own

Seventh Circuit Extends Second Amendment Rights to Undocumented Immigrants
scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/seventhcircuitreview/vol11/iss1/5/

In the 2015 case United States v. Meza-Rodriguez,4 the United
States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit held that
undocumented immigrants in the United States who have developed
sufficient connections with the country are part of “the people” to
whom the Second Amendment confers a right to bear arms. In so
doing, the Seventh Circuit employed the sufficient connections test for
defining “the people.”

Habeus her Corpsus on my Probiscus

I like how this is pretty much the only pro 2A 7th circuit case kek.

the invaders can arm themselves

Jesus. what the actual fuck is wrong with you people?

Most these illegals are in the system from “catch and release”

You're very naïve if you think all the people who bumrushed the border under Biden are in some biometric database somewhere.

If rights were a real thing then they couldn't be stripped. We used to think we had the right to our own country, and then the whole federal government ignored that for four years straight and let in 10 million illegal aliens. Now you're pretending like we have to play by the rules *now* because otherwise someone else might break the rules later. But they already did. So fuck you.

That's why they need to prove you are illegal, even just administratively.

If you concede that then I don't disagree. Administratively proving it is due process, the fed agencies are bound by laws and reviews. Every illegal doesn't have the right to a trial. The vast, vast majority are in the system already. They overstaid a visa, got caught entering before, are in some mixed household receiving gibs, have bank accounts, or were part of catch and release or some asylum claim.

A detention center for a person that was proved to be an illegal alien by their due process, is not like being put in serve your 10 years sentence prison.

Prison, jail, detention center are not the same.

The detention centers only detain people, under the power of law enforcement detention. Think back to an auditor video when they ask am I detained? That's what a detention center is but more formalized with walls and food and toilets. Jail where you go when they cops say 'you are under arrest', or 'I have a warrant for your arrest you are under arrest' although most mouth breathing cops think that 'put your hands behind your back' is making an arrest.

fuck all "but muh law" types who use the law as a ratchet

The beginning of wisdom is understanding that in a multinational state like the USA, the law is a weapon used by one tribe to attack rival tribes. That's all.

She's got no tits or ass and God knows what she looks like under that clown makeup

Not all of them but a lot of them are. They'd cross the border and wait for CBP to show up, then CBP would take them in for processing.

its not the same thing!

OK, so finding illegals on the street, detaining them till the paperwork clears to send them home, isn't the same thing as just jailing them and forcing them into slavery. i agree. I prefer the first way.

Guys on this board are like those low-IQ prison niggers that one anon did a study on, who couldn't into hypotheticals.

What if you were locked up and told you were here illegally and had no rights. How would you prove you are here legally?

But I'm not here illegally

> 2014 Liberals: Freeze Peach!!

2025 Conservatives: HAYBE AHH CORPUS!!

Pottery.

No, it's not illegals, it's everybody including citizens.
Because to know if they're illegals you need due process, otherwise how would you? If there's people without due process, then you don't have it either, because if they catch you and accuse you of being illegal you don't get a chance to prove you're not. That's how a few of your citizens got deported to El Salvador.

Her

Bad news for you
Habeas corpus Isn't a right to a trial, it's a right to have your writ reviewed and a potential hearing if the writ is granted as to why you are being held and the grounds and legality for that. As when you get deported it's just civil and you don't get sent to jail you don't need to be tried for it. I think you just don't understand what habeas corpus is.

the nsa just disappeared, apparently in 2017

Just don’t let her near your dog.

I’m saying every US citizen is in the system. Police just need your name and date of birth to pull you up

OK, so finding illegals on the street, detaining them till the paperwork

How did you find an illegal alien?
Ever seen videos of ICE trying to setup roadblocks to ask people if they are citizens and getting told to fuck off?
Why would they bother with the question if they can just magic up a fucking answer?

The people being detained are not being punished for the crime of sneaking into the USA. They are being held until they can be processed out of the USA to their nation of citizenship. Most people spend less than a day in a detention facility before being returned home.

You are assuming our government even kept records on them. Catch and release has never been effective. Otherwise we would not have the immigration problems we have now.

those are unsliced hamburger buns.

And pretty easy to verify. What’s your social security? What’s your birthday? Every US citizen is in the system.

And yet, a few citizens have been deported wrongly. What went wrong? Ever heard of Abrego Garcia? Seems like your system isn't perfect.

Oh I know but it’s real easy to verify if you are not a US citizen. If can’t give a cop your name, your birthday, any rule of legal ID, a social security number, fuck your insurance registration, the chances is you not being an illegal is extent low

Honestly this isn't far from reality.
If they legitimately wanted to integrate into the US and came legally to do so, they most likely learned english too.
If they're brown and can't speak english, I do just assume they're an illegal and most of the time you'd be right.

how do you find an illegal alien

usually you go to home depots parking lot. but the other way is ri cross reference the persons name through the federal database of Americans citizens with ssn or other federal ids, including birth certificates or fingerprint, or pictures, ect.

the perks of a totalitarian police state infrastructure, I guess.

Ever heard of Abrego Garcia?

Week bait

the el Salvadorian gang banger? you wasn't an us citizens.

He was a legal resident, they are having an issue with a guy called Leonardo Garcia Venegas who is a citizens, they arrested him, and they claimed his Real ID was fake. They actually deported a citizen in 2012 due to them being retarded. But it's weird when people are like oh but they aren't a citizen, and it's like can your landlord just come and take your apartment back instantly? Can the bank foreclose on your when you pay your mortgage? Just absurd.

Got to pay your taxes. It's fucking crazy that the IRS knows literally every citizen and legal alien but they can't tell the people running the elections who they are and which is which.

irs, fbi, Cia, dhs, atf, ect. patriot act is a bitch, huh?

Leftists are the new globalists.
They're actually insane and hate their own countrymen.

We just need to make sure local states do their job, get rid of the bad ones, and not give them things that could be used to give the illusion they are citizens, like IDs. Sounds simple.

How do you determine someone is here illegally?

Should be pretty easy.

Do you have a drivers license?

Do you have a state ID?

Do you have a passport?

Do you have a visa?

Do you have a birth certificate?

Do you have a social security number?

Do you have a bank account?

How do you know they’re illegal?

Also pretty easy

Have you been caught illegally crossing the border?

Have you been issued a removal order?

Have you skipped a court date?

Have you overstayed your visa?

Have you failed to provide any proof of citizenship or ID other than for a foreign nation when arrested, pulled over, or caught in a job site raid?

You’re being a faggot dude. Illegals carry their passports, they suck at English, half of them apply for asylum after entering illegally and ignore their removal orders, none of them pay income taxes so are automatically guilty of a crime even beyond illegal entry by sheer fact of working. This is not hard to figure out.

Seize their property, take their fucking homes. That's ours now. My legal residency.

(((Lincoln))) did, why not (((Trump)))? Fuck 'em, and fuck the latinx too.

The IRS is like the crowning example of the US creating a system that is designed to be intentionally broken. Just like our white collar crime enforcement system. Also like how no one on here batted an eye when Trump gutted the CFPB, literally the agency that regulates usury and consumer lending of banks.

BUT WHAT IF THE PERSON WAS BORN IN AN OUTHOUSE IN TEXARKANA AND LIVED IN THE WOODS ALONE AFTER THEIR PARENTS DIED AT THE AGE OF 3?????

The interstate commerce clause has been raped into giving birth to every federal agency.

Why can't you niggers read?

think you just don't understand what habeas corpus is.

I know what it is and I know why your side is constantly bleating about it. Because you know damn well that millions of illegals asserting it will gum up the system and ensure that this administration is long gone by the time even a fraction of the "cases" are heard. "Make the other side live up to their own rules" right? I know EXACTLY where that comes from. See it's shit like this that makes everyone want you and your precious illegals lined up in front of a ditch. This is why the admin has billions of dollars in the reconciliation bill for lawyers, because of this blatant lawfare. So now that costs Americans even more. You're a stooge and a shill for big business, defending their scabs like this.

If a citizen is mistakenly depoarted, why can't he initiate the process to correct the error from the country he is mistakenly deported to? Why can't his due process to correc the mistake begin there?

this hypothetical person wouldn't get picked up for deportation because he wouldn't have been arrested before and put on the list of illegals. ICE isn't driving around and grabbing random browns.

Implying that the government cannot change the Constitution if they want

What is prohibition?

Lincoln did it briefly while congress was out of session and then had to get them to give him power to do it once they got back into session. It was a different time as it took weeks to convene congress in the mid 19th century. But he didn't think you could suspend it with them in session without an act letting him do it. It's like how if you get arrested last night it's complete fair you can get held until Tuesday before your arraignment.

CFPB

They didn't need a DEI director did they?

and they all share the same info. honestly, im not even sure how anyone could argue its not remotely feasible to find and detain illegals with little to no due process in the age of the internet. maybe in 1960, but 2025? everyone has at least a digital footprint.

Well you actually need to change the constitution to change it...

Again, it has been done before. They could do it again if they so wished.

Leonardo Garcia Venegas

Was he deported? No. So they though his ID was fake. Then he gave his social security to confirm his identification then was let go. Problem? They could have looked up his ID info as well to verify. Again, the immigration officer interview straighten things out again because they have tons of databases to work with and the temporary detainment was legal to prove he was here legally. Again proving the system worked.

Subject to the jurisdiction thereof

yeah well that's not REAL due process

REAL DUE PROCESS JUST LETS ME HAVE MY PERSONAL SLAVES FOREVER >THAT MEANS REAL DUE PROCESS HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED CHUDS SO THERE!

amendment that let free slaves have rights

somehow applies to illegals

get the fuck out of here. no one's that stupid.

Well it is Democrats who are doing this today, and they were the ones that fought tooth and nail to keep their slaves in the 1800s. So it should not be surprising.

Jason Gets Deported

That is why they made the education system in the US so shit. They are trying to dumb down the population so they can gaslight you easier. Sadly, it is working.

Do we really need more stabby immigrants?

my side

People who respect the constitution? Like I don't want a million illegals either but I also care more about you know basic rights that have existed since the time of the crusades...
Because ICE has to deal with habeas corpus and due process. If the will of the voters wants them to have more expedited removal why can't they get congress to vote for it? Hmmmm almost as if it's a made up problem being given as a pretext so they can hold critics of Israel...
I am just talking about their fixation on legalizing high interest loans and getting consumer protections against banks charging fraudulent fees. Same with the whole Federal Arbitration act scam that lets companies keep you from taking them to small claims court.
Yeah, because he got due process, and it worked. If "illegals didn't get due process" he would have been deported.
I am going to presume you Jewish until proven Indian. That is real due process. No human, even if Jewish, deserves to be called a jeet until proven to be a jeet.

suspend habeas corpus

What kind of fascist evil dictator 'president' would do such a thing my sisters????!?!?!

pretty much the only pro

Because it can take a decade for a case of any nature to wind past the courts. Most people who run into a road block just accept it. You don't have the right ID to buy a firearm so OK.

ignored that for four years straight

Biden deported a ton of people. It just wasn't the political theater we see now. Ya know, like how Trump was ok with H1b visa and we need more. People also ignore facts like most illegals aren't southern border jumpers, it's outdated visas. There is no immigrant crime wave. There isn't even a spike in crime at all as it's been dropping since 1960.
There is no invasion to kick off the act the current admin is using. Fent isn't being mass smuggled in on foot.. The list goes on and on. It's just theater for mid wits who don't read...

Yeah, that's for people with diplomatic immunity. They literally can't even get parking tickets, it's wild.
Only while congress was in recess. Read the thread. Same reason you don't get arraigned if you are arrested on a weekend until monday, or like this weekend, Tuesday (because court holiday).

Subject to the jurisdiction thereof

Is only for establishing citizenship.

The part the gives everyone in the USA legal protections of life, liberty, property and equal protection of the law applies to 'any person' which includes illegal/legal aliens, slaves, freemen and Indians.

I am not actually sure due process applies to people with diplomatic immunity, like it's kind of the other way, but also they can just be expelled for no reason at all.

The crux of this whole argument is if this influx of illegal immigration constitutes an invasion. This is where the "experts" at constitutional law will relay show up to give their brain dead opinions.

Deporting them upon discovery is actually the due process.

to be subject to a nation's law means you must be a citizen of such a nation. hence subject.

really*

I am just talking about their fixation on legalizing high interest loans and getting consumer protections against banks charging fraudulent fees.

You don't need a huge work force to write an update that the congress passed a law saying you can only charge niggers 25% on loans rather than 35%. Or when someone sends in a picture of a bank collecting an unlawful fee and says this is unlawful please send the DOJ to fuck them up.

illegals

Kek miga thinks the government has to remove legal protections from Americans to round up illegals, bunch of fucking rubes.

You should probably look up what the word "jurisdiction" means before calling yourself a constitutional scholar.

Maybe you should do some research instead of making things up.
Nearly all of these encountered were allowed to stay, presumably as asylum seekers.
Before 2023, many of them were immediately deported under Title 42, but then that expired.
cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters

You do to inspect the banks and enforce it on the various companies. It's fascinating when they do work force reductions in government who they lay off. Usually enforcement arm staff of something they don't like. Similar to have big city counties always have skeleton crew public corruption enforcement divisions in their DA's office, as iykyk. The DOJ needs to FTC or CFPB to refer it to do the enforcement.

I am not actually sure due process applies to people with diplomatic immunity, like it's kind of the other way, but also they can just be expelled for no reason at all.

It does. Part of due process is seeing if the person has diplomatic immunity.
All due process means is you must follow the chain of logic to get to the end state conclusion. One of those steps is if someone has immunity. But in almost every single case ever its not an issue.

Although their is a good video of an asshole cop running into an asshole with diplomatic immunity and getting an death sentence for hitting the guy if he ever goes to that nation the diplomat was from.

The part the gives everyone in the USA legal protections of life, liberty,

life

Awesome. You just proved that abortions are unconstitutional.

That's just the southwest border encounters. I have no idea how many overstayed visas, that would be a separate statistic.

You do to inspect the banks and enforce it on the various companies

You do not. Hey this bank just offered 36,000% APR and they are not on an indian reservation.
Not the most complex thing to inspect. Just like twitter you could likely fire 97% of the staff of government agencies and have no reduction in actual service.

Fair point. I don't really even think about diplomatic immunity. But yeah. But then no right to due process for expulsion, just immunity from prosecution.

>Awesome. You just proved that abortions are unconstitutional.

Fetus are not anyone and so are not included in everyone. Also healthcare is a state issue not Fed.

Abortion is almost never healthcare. It's almost always elective because the woman doesn't want a child. That's nothing to do with health.

Life begins at conception. You just debunked yourself and proved abortions are unconstitutional.

A state issue

Not anymore. Congress is going to take medicaid from millions.

ignores the literal author of the amendment saying "aliens" are excluded

Your schtick isn't fooling everyone here. I'm done with you. KYS

And he did it against US citizens

That's the issue though, some of these things have arbitration clauses so you can't fight them except in (((arbitration))) and can't do a class action. Plus they made enforcement have no private right of action so without the CFPB you are fucked. It's very similar to imagining how fucked thing would be without habeas corpus. Like system breaking. Although they just need to create private rights of action that are immune to arbitration for the CFPB stuff.

Jesus you have bad reading comprehension.

Life begins at conception.

Sure and if I cut off my finger it's still alive at least for a short while, does my finger become a new person?

Life and the legal status of being a person are not the same. You can't get a SSN for an unborn fetus.
For example the legal status of an Indian doesn't start until age 2 because the USA has lots of very old laws fixing problems that existed at the time and don't make sense anymore.

Yes, a fetus is biologically alive. From conception, it exhibits characteristics of life: it has a unique genetic code, undergoes cell division, and develops complex systems like organs and tissues. By 8 weeks, a fetus has a detectable heartbeat, brain activity, and basic physiological functions. These are objective markers of life, consistent with how we define living organisms in biology.

Sorry but even so says basic science says you're wrong.

Again, thank you for debunking yourself that abortions are unconstitutional.

That shit would get smacked down so easily but it’s also so easily bait to justify another gun control crackdown. Honestly impressed. Dems have gotten extremely retarded over the last ten years by comparison.

You can't get a SSN for an unborn fetus.

You in fact can.
Tell us you're poor without telling us you're poor.

That's the issue though, some of these things have arbitration clauses so you can't fight them except in (((arbitration))) and can't do a class action. Plus they made enforcement have no private right of action so without the CFPB you are fucked.

Same for criminal law, you can't setup your own criminal prosecution for someone, you must beg daddy government to do it for you. At best you could draw up a grand jury and have them make a criminal charge but that's the end of it as a citizen.

If your bank breaks the law you can report them. Just like if your neighbor breaks the law.
If your issue isn't criminal then you have a civil case and you must follow your agreements. But you can't agree to a criminal action on the banks part.

sounds like something a terrorist anti-semite would say.

You're pretending the Biden administration never happened.
Recall that on Jan. 6 the government declared peaceful protesters to be insurrectionists, opened fire on them, and locked them up for years.
If this was legit and legal, then everything Trump is doing is too.

Abrego Garcia

Only had a lower court like judge put an order not to deport. Not a citizen. Got arrested after the fact. Got deported. Staying deported.

That's nice. But the legal status of something being a person doesn't apply to the unborn.
Abortions are state issues.

Hey is a tree alive? It doesn't have a heart beat, brain activity organs or tissue.

Report them to the CFPB that now has no staff?

i don't speak the doctor language

So much for that whole life, liberty thing huh?
Anyways it was pretty easy to get you to debunk yourself and then move goal posts.

is a tree alive

yes. if you're trying to argue a tree and human cells are similar, that's biologicallying dishonest, and you know that.

No staff?
You are making up nonsense and sound stupid.

yes. if you're trying to argue a tree and human cells are similar, that's biologicallying dishonest, and you know that.

He just said that " it exhibits characteristics of life: it has a unique genetic code, undergoes cell division, and develops complex systems like organs and tissues... has a detectable heartbeat, brain activity, and basic physiological functions. These are objective markers of life, consistent with how we define living organisms in biology."

Clearly trying to be dishonest about how all life becomes a US citizen at conception.

No it's real. 90% staff cuts.

That was taken straight out of a biology textbook.
Clearly you don't give a shit about the constitution and the life, liberty quote when you don't think an unborn child should also have those rights.

Given that humans are biological organisms, wouldn't it be fair to say that indeed life does start at conception? after all, without conception, there's absolutely zero cell growth or offspring potential. and if you can agree with that, then that philosophically applies to rights as well.

You guys literally wanted to murder people for misgendering you. No sympathy.

There is no crime wave

The crime wave spike was in the 2010s when El Chapo went to war with the blacks and killed thousands. Then the fentanyl crisis was never properly documented. We know the vast majority of it is being cooked south of the border but they don’t want to attribute that to the cartels death toll because then we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of Americans dead from a tainted supply and that makes them a significant enough threat to actually warrant invading Mexico. 45k in 2024. 75k in 2023. Another 75k in 2022. 71k in 2021. 57k in 2020. So when Trumps policy was in place we had 1/3 of the dead junkies in 2020. Biden let them waltz over the border and poison thousands of Americans. Then when the border crisis became untenable leading up to the election and Biden started cracking down it miraculously dropped again. 50k Americans are dead because of democrat border policies.

Yeah but then an illegal who was pregnant would have a citizen fetus in them.

no. the illegals' parents would need to be us citizens for that to apply. both parents, not just one. its why two us citizens having a child outside the border still count to regular us citizenship, along with citizenship of said birthplace. it doesn't not work in vise versa. as two illegals or even one legal one citizen parent doesnt make a us citizen.

I suppose they aren't born yet then. Although are you saying that a fetus with American parents, or an American mother is a citizen? Prior to birth?

I'm a dual citizen, and it's weird to think that my second passport might be more stable and secure than an american passport. like, we've already seen american citizens with passports getting dragged off and sent to some midnight express Turkish prison. as an American born american, if ICE, a clearly infallible, well run government department mistakenly grabs me, do I wave an american passport or my secondary citizenship? atleast if I wave my secondary, I'll get sent there as opposed to certain fucking death.

Dual citizen

both parents are required to be us citizens, not just say the mother or father. as both parents are subject to us law (jurisdiction, if you will). its very simple.

That's not how it works like at all. Do you also try to question a court based on the flag having fringe?

basic science

kek
Trust the science amirite

that's not how it works

they the literal wording of the amendment. its how daca got shot down

schizo gibberish

So yeah

unprecedented.

what? you never heard of operation wetback, you fucking faggot?

I accept your second concession. its almost like the Supreme Court is having this exact argument right now or something...

Well no, they had an argument about primary injunctions. Even in the oral argument a majority of the justices openly made statements about Trump's order being unconstitutional, the question before the court was about national preliminary injunctions, and that order was being used as an example for f something that was both facially unconstitutional and far reaching.

skizo babbling

look, you already gave up arguing. for whatever reason, you're conflating the birthright challenge with the the deportation challenge. maybe you're just confused.

Here is a link to both a recording of the oral arguments, and a transcript. If you care so deeply about this just give it a listen, really interesting stuff just generally.

supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2024/24A884

Here is that DACA case, please read it. It's about administrative procedure not the 14th amendment. It has to do with the power of the executive. This stuff is all public. You can read it and learn and then have real opinions based on what's actually happening not political propaganda. It's like how you can actually just read bills on congress's website.

ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/23/23-40653-CV0.pdf

You didn't call it a barm cake

What's your point? That you're actually from north west England and I'm somehow wrong?

naturalised

How in the fuck is someone who doesn't speak the native language "naturalised"?

nice, what movie is that?

the birthright challenge is because of procedure

in a way, sure, I guess. the procedure of an illegal trapping a citizen or just having an anchor baby is being challenged.

DACA wasn't about birthright citizenship, it's about DACA and that case doesn't approach the topic. Birthright citizenship is from the plain meaning, legislative history at enactment, and conventional understanding of the 14A since 1868. They literally discussed this on the floor when they were debating this.

Here is Wong Kim Ark.
supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/169/649/

Notice how it's a habeas corpus case from 1898 that answers this question. Also for context you can see Dred Scott, which is specifically what the 14A overturned and which makes your arguments:
supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/60/393/

Investigating is not due process. There was no trial, there was no judge or court case. I don't think you know what due process is.

daca wasn't about birthright citizenship

it was about illegal aliens childern being considered American citizens with the same rights. I simply used it getting shot down as an example as to the current shift in the "interpretation" of the 14th amendment, which the Supreme court is currently arguing about. do you often need your hand held through a conversation?

It's not just suspended for "illegals".
He is suspending it for EVERYONE.

Investigations have to follow due process requirements, particularly admin things like immigration procedures. If the immigration agents don't follow the statutes and regulations they don't get to deport you. That's why they don't usually deport citizens as they have procedures to figure out who tf they have, they aren't just throwing random people on planes. And, the threat of habeas corpus hearings, and subsequent consequences of those hearings keep unlawful behavior by law enforcement in check. You can read Wong Kim Ark, which is literally such a situation, where they had him but he was a citizen.

The DACA case is an administrative law case, it's not a constitutional case. Just read the link.

No, they didn’t. The recent decision to strip asylum seekers of their TPS has been kicked back to the lower courts.
Now those same circuits have even greater reason to reinstate the TPS due to the 7-2 SCOTUS rejection of habeas corpus suspension for alleged gangsters under the administrations tenuous interpretation of the FEA.
Now fuck off you weird spamming little shit.
This is theatre for MAGA idiots to think Trump is doing all he can when if he cared and was, he’d bomb Mexico and the cartels back to the stone age and repatriate their oil reserves under a legitimate use of the FEA.
This shit is paper thin and after Trumps orange ass is gone, it won’t matter what he signs.
EOs are temporary garbage and that’s why actually needs to be destroyed.
Obama and Trump abuse it.
Now fuck off nigger lover xD

illegally

Define.
Hard mode: you can’t.

could lincoln? or fdr? why are only kikes allowed to suspend human rights?

That’s what you maple tranny trash tell poos, right??
LMAAAOOOO go back to the trailer park, Chang.

25 pbtid

LMAAAAOOOOOOO

Noooooo I want them to read case law and become less retarded.

Based. MAGA faggots are becoming the niggers of politics so fast xD

wtf she looks like a foot stepped in raw oysters and glass

They won’t. Retards are all we have. We both know exactly what commie democrats will do with these precedents.
Thats what so fucked about this.
MAGA niggers make me sick.

destroys your own freedoms you brag about that were a bitch to get, making this another 3rd world country

never correct your enemy when he is making a mistake.

clear civil rights violation the left coming into power and the news won't like

doesn't measure the consequences of his actions

wants to play Nazi on the working class in a country where nobody wants to work, trillions in debt

keep making mistakes. DO IT FAGGOT

news

*Jews

If law mattered then how did tens of millions of illegal aliens get in?

nobody wants to work

Nobody wants to work for third world wages, that's true.

Lincoln did it almost a year before congress voted on it that's rewriting history

I'm just waiting on the next news, and the news after that and the news after that to see what this retard does LMAO

so far only 64 of my homies were stupid enough to take the 1000 and go the fuck back.

KEEP DOING IT

Some of them have to be salvageable. Like maybe a 18 y/o kid will read it and become non-retarded.
Did you know that "woman" also has an online degree she got after she was in the US house? Fucking kek. Like she ran a tourist hunting lodge farm with her siblings that they inherited from her parents for a decade then has been a politician ever since. This is a multi thousand acre ranch. Like if you grew up as the daughter of a major rancher it's not "growing up on a farm" it's growing up the kid of a big cattle king.
Just read it and learn about our system, your rights and become less retarded.

fucking with the constitution is the definition of corruption. that thing should be sacred and left alone. sad to see Europe is following in your footsteps like your little lapdog.

not that I like Africans and Indians and sandniggers in Europe.
I guess they're not better than that, and there's no money to be made abroad.

our system, your rights

Lol nobody cares about your pretend system and my rights extend as far as I can force them. The invaders you are Hell-bent on defending don't give a fuck about your system either, and they don't think you have rights, and they wouldn't care even if you convinced them. You're retarded / subversive.
You too. By ignoring the law for years when it's convenient for the people who want to destroy Western civilization, you don't get to then pretend you care about law when it can be used to prevent people repairing the destruction.

but the rules of the game say you can't move pieces that way! YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES!

*illegal alien violates the rules* That's okay he didn't know tee-hee!

1 you're doing this to your best friend, your actual greatest ally are spics. this is the same as invading Russia in the winter.
2 the law is meant to serve the people, such things as mercy exist. not everything is justice and punishment.

but keep believing lies. the only legal tender you need is money.
I bet you envy Epstein's pedo Island.

nobody, not one normal person from my community, Latin America is "destroying western civilization". we don't chink it, but we keep our heads down and work. keep shitting on the little guy.

not a fucking thing "brown spics" do inconveniences you. and if it is a race thing you're Mexican/native Americans yourself. saying this used to work, until liberals shit on it. hilarious to see you nigger lovers cuck.