Why do people say the US lost the War on Terror?

Killed 4.5-4.7 million of their people while only losing 7,052 of our own.

Took their resources for ourselves.

Dismantled their government.

Inserted our own government.

Fucked their women.

Came home.

and we did it all while smiling from opium, also taken from them by force.

the primary purpose was to spend trillions of dollars on defense companies. A small secondary interest is to get the local to support (not destroy) oil and gas pipeline run through their country to feed gas to Europe to cut out Russia. Talibon still, there, ISIS created and growing, Iran much more influential in Iraq and the region.

ISIS growing

what is this 2013?

Because you did, Duh!
Life is not some sci-fi movie or first person cuckold game you stupid son of a bitch

Because you did

by what metric?

Iraq does have democracy now, but they're Shia innit

7,052

Wrong number

Nope. 7,052 US military servicemen deaths. Allied coalition's aren't Americans.

didnt most of these "vets" suicide like pussies when they came home?
lol

Yeah with roughly 3.6 million indirect civilian deaths, due to malnourishment, disease and other biproducts of you blowing up their infrastructure with 2 million dollar tomahawk cruise missiles.

You guys accomplished nothing except establish yourselves as the premiere child killing, woman killing and geriatric killing specialists around the world. Which is why everyone that served there is either fucked in the head or dealing with some health issues from breathing in burn pit fumes.

I have nothing against you personally but I would love to shoot your faggot ass into outer space.

veterans kill themselves

puppet government collapses and the old government returns

accomplishes nothing aside from bolstering anti-american sentiment worldwide

That is why.

also taken from them by force.

Opium was haram before we came

war on terror

terror still exists

seems like a cut and dry loss.

veterans kill themselves

Happens after every war. You wouldn't get it because your country hasn't fought for anything in 200 years.

puppet government collapses and the old government returns

We gave them a golden opportunity to join the modern world and they threw it away. Not our problem anymore.

accomplishes nothing aside from bolstering anti-american sentiment worldwide

You mean it turned the international Jew against us.

That is why.

You didn't list a single reason that supports the idea of us losing the war, you just explained why you don't like the US.

War is the effort to make another party do one’s will. So you tell me, which party got more of what they wanted?

only losing 7,052 of our own.

That doesn't count the mercenaries aka service men discharged for medical reasons and immediately employed by a third party.
Also terror didn't lose so you didn't win the war. No, civilians and little children are not terror, killing 4 million of them does not make you a winner.

to cut out Russia

Russia was drilling oil in Iraq after US invasion.

Not how that works.
For example, more people recognize the threat of the Jew now than they did in 1940 - but the fact is that Hitler lost WW2.

Veterans tend to kill themselves much less if they won and/or their cause was righteous, though. Just compare US to VC Vietnam vets in actuarial stats and general demeanor

Why are you ignoring suicides?

Allied coalition's aren't Americans.

Because just like Vietnam, the scope of the war was expanded and it's goals changed to one that couldn't really be fought militarily, leading to a failure to achieve the stated objective. Thus losing the war.

more people recognize the threat of the Jew now than they did in 1940

Not really, hating on jews was universal back then, like hating on gypsies nowadays. American entertainment as the golem's enforcing media has been a catastrophe for human progress by putting jews in good light.

terror didn't lose

It did, though.
The Middle East is closer than ever before to having peace, and it wouldn't have been possible without our diplomacy.

are you too stupid to understand the concept of goals and optics? I bet you are, but also you're just being a disingenuous faggot

Either that or their masters were hiding actual KIA numbers from public. Either way Americans are weak faggots that they even had to event nonsense like PTSD because their corn syrup addicted soldiers couldn't handle a little bit of low intensity policing.
They're refugees from Europe after all who fleed when times were a little bit rough in Europe.
It's in their genetics to be weak and flee just like they all flee from their precious niggerinos in the cities to life in suburb shacks instead.

I forgot how utterly retarded you americans are.

Happens after every war.

For you.
You haven't fought a legitimate war since 1775, of course the poor fools sent to do it will hate themselves once they realize what they've done.

You wouldn't get it because your country hasn't fought for anything in 200 years.

We didn't need to, so we didn't. You guys could learn a thing or two.

We gave them a golden opportunity to join the modern world and they threw it away. Not our problem anymore.

Kek. Sour grapes.

You mean it turned the international Jew against us.

You are the international jew.

Amerimutts are straight up embarrassing

Why are there so many beaners in my thread?
You retards have a street gang as your government lmao.
Maybe we'll come introduce diplomacy to you next.

they had no resources to plunder. their government is back in control. we never fucked their women beyond some rare cases of rape. we spent $1T+ dropping smart bombs on a bunch of retards with 1960s soviet surplus weaponry. we lost.

more people recognize the threat of the Jew now than they did in 1940

lol no, even US troops were more jew aware in 1940 than normies today.

Russia was drilling oil in Iraq after US invasion.

Russia was the main supplier to Europe and that was a main source of revenue for Russia and the US/England want to block that. Also China was big in Iraq and the US wanted to kick China out and rebid all the contracts for western and European companies.

what is this 2013?

yes.

You third world retards cry when we involve ourselves and then beg for our aid when we don't lmao

who is "we"?
youre just some fat mutt that spews american propganda on Anon Babble lmao

beg for our aid

Cite one example, you delusional fool.

US troops were more jew aware in 1940 than normies today.

Blatantly false. Just look at all of the

We fought fascism once and we'll do it again!1!

rhetoric from this group.

They immigrated 10 million of those people into America because of this and how fucking long it took to give up. What a huge win bootlicker.

America lost because they are the great satan I am surely not an asshurt muslim expat
Or they lost because they are decadent and weak see my attached image of a military man wearing lipstick xaxaxa I am definitely not russian behind a VPN.

But whatever you think about America's past wars, all you must think now is that serving your country is bad, unless that country is China or Russia I am totally not paid to say this by the way.

The recent India/Pakistan conflict. Both sides quickly wound up begging for US aid after spending years criticizing us for being involved in foreign affairs.
And yes, I'm lumping all of you 3rd worlders together because you're all the same.
You all cry about the US nonstop and then come begging for help when you need it.

2,7 million total served in those wars so around every 1/20 veteran from there killed themself.
1 in 20 that's absolutely ridiculous

Where are you getting your stats? Only ~30,000 committed suicide out of over 3 million soldiers lol.

>Killed 4.5-4.7 million of their people while only losing 7,052 of our own.

for Israel

>Took their resources for ourselves.

for Israel and wealthy kikes

>Dismantled their government.

for Israel

>Inserted our own government.

for Israel

>Fucked their women.

muh dik, probably gets mad at BBC memes

>Came home.

sadly

and we did it all while smiling from opium, also taken from them by force.

so many dead white addicts,kikes making fortunes while eating little white kids

congratulations

Nigga you are the terror!

So what you're saying is, we won.

So America is Pissrael's biggest ally, and Pissrael is Russia's biggest ally, does that mean America is funding communism? and helping Marxist achieve their "goal"?

I mean, America did put sanctions on SA, while in the same time russian mercenaries were training, funding, and assisting niggers to blow up buildings with innocent white people in it.

Then after most of our white population got fucked over by our communist government, America helps 49 refugees?

killing millions to make yourself rich?

Does South Africa think Russia is still communist lol?
Idk if these are the retards we want to be bringing here if so.

Many of those were non-combat related MOS/rates and never saw any action. Notice how its never SOF that gets PTSD or suicidal, it is the run of the mill grunts and zogbots.

It's over 120k and I wonder how many of those idiots got left behind with chronic pain from the 'war' and thrown out of healthcare fully addicted then turning to heroin or later fentanil which ultimately killed them....
Usa is the only 'western' nation in the world with veteran tent 'cities'.

kikes won*
whites lost

property of the victor isn't victorious in of itself

Winning a war isn't about K/D it's about enforcing your political will
Your political will was to entrench yourself in these countries until they became democratic allies
You were expelled and the current regimes are neither democratic, nor your allies. Some would argue you've pushed them from being pariahs by themselves to being allies to your enemies
Therefore you lost
Nice cope tho

It's over 120k

it's not

retards

you DO know MANDELA was a COMMUNIST
you DO know MALEMA is a communist
you DO know MUGABE from Zimbabwe was a communist
you DO know Ramaphosa is a communist...
AND ALL OF THEM ARE ALLIES WITH RUSSIA

go fucking kill yourself since you know fuckall of history or current events

Absolute kek. They didn't ask, you offered to mediate a truce and they accepted, which has proven to be useless seeing how they're still taking potshots at each other.
This shameless arrogance and hollow pride are what's behind your steady decline. Like master, like golem.

Killed 4.5-4.7 million of their people

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

Total dead: 34,144+–71,544+

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001–2021)

80,000+ killed

i fucking hate retards like you who come up ridiculous estimates

it's about enforcing your political will

you mean like altering their government and taking their resources?

You were expelled

we withdrew VERY slowly after over a decade of occupation lmao

and the current regimes are neither democratic, nor your allies.

Pakistan is our ally, a pretty good one even.

Some would argue you've pushed them from being pariahs by themselves to being allies to your enemies

Those people would be retarded. The only Middle Eastern country with any powerful allies is Pakistan, and that ally is us lmao.

Therefore you lost

by what metric?

You can't win a war on terror when the biggest terrorists (Saudis and Pakis) are your allies.

funny enough.. America even helped the communists to overthrow Hitler's Germany...
fucking cuck

Your number is still wrong but isn't it pathetic even with your fake numbers that 4 faggot veterans kill themself compared to 1 killed in action?

Wrong. Both India and Pakistan reached out to us MULTIPLE TIMES. Once on the third day, and once after the nuclear storage site was hit.
And that's just what we know about.

Taliban chased America out of their country.

literally every source confirms my number

i-its still wrong!!

shouldn't you be at work Hans?

How the FUCK do you go and destroy another country and it's citizens across the world and in turn YOUR country turns into a shithole instead?
Can you explain that you retard?

what source confirms your retarded casualty figure of 4,500,000-4,700,000 killed

it is called karma... something cucks and communists will never grasp

The point of war is to eventually break the will of the enemy to the point that they stop resisting. Ultimately it doesn't matter how many of the enemy you kill if they never stop resisting. The kill/death ratio in Vietnam was off the chart, but in the end we lost because we lost the will to keep fighting, while the North Vietnamese never lost the will to keep fighting. The same thing happened in Afghanistan, and broadly speaking, in the rest of the GWOT. Our superior technology and logistics meant we could and often did win any individual battle, could and often did achieve any short term objectives, but we never broke the enemies desire to keep resisting.

There are still countless Muslims out there willing to fight and do terror attacks, and countless more civilians who approve of them. We would have to go full Genghis Khan and murder literally every single Muslim in order to break that, and we don't have the stomach for that. So, since we can't wipe out all the billion plus Muslims, and killing them all is the only way to break their desire to spread Islamic rule via violence, the only practical option left to us is to bar any immigration of Muslims into non-Muslim lands and to deport all Muslims currently living in non-Muslim lands.

you mean like altering their government and taking their resources?

No, like accomplishing the geopolitical objectives the invasion was supposed to achieve, which was a total failure.

we withdrew VERY slowly after over a decade of occupation lmao

Cope. You left because you were losing men, equipment and money while accomplishing nothing. There was no morale left neither on the ground nor in the command.
Goat herders with AKs ground your oh so mighty army's spirit down in prolonged attrition warfare.

Pakistan is our ally, a pretty good one even.

Sure, Pakistan will help defend a country they hate. It's a one way defensive alliance, if even that.

The only Middle Eastern country with any powerful allies is Pakistan

No one tell him about rising China's and resurgent Russia's escapades in the area.

by what metric?

Every.
Proof?

For some reason they couldn't do it before the botched Afghanistan withdrawal...

our superior technology

you mean "your" alien tech in Area 51, which you still haven't managed to reverse engineer

>We fought fascism once and we'll do it again!1!

rhetoric from this group.

That's modern day boomers, not WW2 GIs

corporations have no power to declare war

the botched Afghanistan withdrawal

Retreat.

There are still WW2 vets alive and literally all of them hate Hitler you dimwit.

The kill/death ratio in Vietnam was off the chart

another claim not supported by any source
it was a civil war so usa wasnt the only one who was inflicting casualties on their enemy therefore you cant know how much of the casualties were attributed to americans

The messy evacuation from Kabul in 2021 and Taliban takeover underscores the loss. The American trained Afghan National Army was supposed to fight, but they folded in one day which didn't help. Also why didn't that douchebag Trump get us out of Afghanistan earlier when he was president? Surely the stable genius could have executed a better withdrawal? Right?

occupies a country for 14 years

war is over

almost no troops still stationed overseas

no reason to keep them there

>uhhh they're retreating we wonn!1!

International propaganda is stronger than I thought.

Don't forget about the Patriot Act and formation of the DHS

yeah those kids are gonna be totally ok seeing that shit up close

lol what world do you live in? Not this one.

>war is over

Because America got beaten.

wasn't even a war, it was a gay police action hamstringing everyone like all the shit we've done for decades

Every US IP in here besides me is either a VPNigger, democuck, or kike lover

They hated him because he truthed the nuke.
Its hilarious how bitches try to cope with Iraq Loss we took over their country, changed their entire leadership, killed everyone and forced them to be an ally of the USA and have a democracy. Yes its not a US State but that's a win.

got beaten

take the vpn off Rajesh

born and raised here, zogbot

you meant democracy, or you actually meant to slve issues in the most peaceful and bureaucratical way? you've been subservant to the kikes to such a extent that not only you've let your child wage their wars but openly defend it on a fucking hentai bulletin board of all places, sort your own shit before getting all gunho across every continent while simultaneously lowering your face and mumbling under your breath when a nigger comes by your property, you whites have been faggots for decades and will breed yourselves out, stop acting all mighty cletus

hates his own country

calls others zogbots

you're more brainwashed by them than I am, my fellow American.

war is over

First rule of war. The victor is not victorious is the vanquished does not consider himself so.
Hence how they managed squeeze your forces out of their land. Hubris does not beat raw determination and no degree technological edge, superior firepower or tactical expertise will compensate for that. Afghanistan is the second time the US had a chance to learn this.

You keep using words like

our own

our

our own

we

You have commited a large fallacy of aggregation. You have failed to account for the disparate interests of individuals, corporations, etc.

Oligarchs managed to gin up a crisis in order to extract wealth from another part of the world and put the expenses on the national credit card. Thanks to the magic of the "social contract", somehow you are liable for it.

I'm not because I'm emigrating. Enjoy your minus $37 trillion inheritence.

I absolutely adore your rhetoric of "only white cucks die for kike wars and support israe-- ACTUALLY f-fuck k-k-kikes am I right Anon Babble?"

killed everyone

Iraq's population has doubled since the 2000s, and Iraq is now an ally of Iran, not the US. All that happened was a somewhat anti-Israel leader, Saddam, was replaced by a government that was weaker and less threatening to Israel.

You're as bad as the baby boomers who insist that America won the Vietnam War and accuse anybody who doubts that of insufficient patriotism.

America went to Afghanistan to get rid of the Taliban. The Taliban are now in control of Afghanistan and America has given up. Taliban won, America lost. Deal with it or just fucking kill yourself like so many of your zogbot buddies.

A country that's run by a cartel and has frequent beheadings in the streets has no room to be crying about Israel lmao.
You have bigger fish to fry at home.

his own

Incorrect. This country was brought and strip-mined out from under him several times already.

You're as bad as the baby boomers who insist that America won the Vietnam War

America lost the Vietnam war.
This thread isn't about Nam though.

While only los-AAAAAACK

don't you dare criticize le heckin Israel!!!!

lmao kike

I absolutely adore your rhetoric of "only white cucks die for kike wars and support israe

Quote the post where I came anywhere close to implying this.
You can't.

his mask fell off

America lost Vietnam and America lost Afghanistan. In both countries the government they went there to topple emerged victorious.

Every US IP in here besides me is either a VPNigger, democuck, or kike lover

kike lover

A country that's run by a cartel and has frequent beheadings in the streets has no room to be crying about Israel lmao.

Aaaaaaaannnddd the mask comes off!!!! Not like you weren't wearing it properly kike.
PS you and your buddies at the AFB are traitorous fat faggots

No, you can and should criticize Israel all you want.
But when you live in a third world shithole, you should probably focus on fixing your own shit, rather than crying about first world problems that literally don't affect you.

Israel is not fucking with Brazil in any way lmao. They're fucking with us.

This Brazilfag is literally complaining about a problem that doesn't affect him on behalf of us.

Kek. He's entering damage control mode.

I genuinely don't understand what connection you think you're making here lmao

I still have yet to hear a valid metric by which we lost.
We could have wiped them off the planet and you retards would still be saying we lost lmfao.

I'm not crying about Israel you stupid fuck, you're the ones getting fucked by them and liking it as it seems by your grunts of pleasure, fuck you, fuck kikes, and fuck mexico, I wasn't psyoped and indoctrinated like some stupid cattle goy to place some stupid flag before me and fight wars for the actual enemy, I don't give a fuck what every other faggot does on the country, I only have myself and God to report to because I'm an individual, not some fucking useful idiot tool. Go piss your pants at fireworks faggot

50 year old B52's are still way beyond what the typical radical Islamic group can field. The best argument against the US having back engineered UFO tech is they haven't yet used in the Middle East, against Russia, or against China ... unless you're going to go with the break away civilization thing.

problems that literally don't affect you.

Mexico is run by ZOG too they have a kike president.

The cartels, the CIA, and Mossad all have ties and work together which is why the drug trade will never be eradicated.

get fucked zogbot kike

I still have yet to hear a valid metric by which we lost.

Scroll up and read the thread again.

We could have wiped them off the planet and you retards would still be saying we lost lmfao.

Yes. I know wanton bloodshed comes natural to psychotic kikes like you, but warfare isn't about killing, it's about winning.

Verbiage is important. Confucuius said that the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper names.

Every nation belongs to its people

Incorrect. Ownership is reflected by control. No control -> no ownership.

and you won't find a single nation on the planet whose people don't refer to it as "my country".

Socializing the argument will not work here. Suppose that they do. They are just as wrong as you, in that case.

It's no wonder you're posts are being so painful to read, you have no clue what you're on about.

Up until recently, wiping out the enemy was seen as a decisive victory.

War has always been about killing the enemy.

This hasn't been the case since classical antiquity in Europe, even earlier in Asia.
At least read the most famous quotes from the Art of War if you're going to talk shit, anon.

Victory and enemy deaths are directly related.

Generally, but not always. As evidenced by the last two major wars fought by the US.

diplomatic resolutions

Completely different thing.

your posts

fixed

holy mother of grunt mentality, command should have been so delighted at your level of simple mindedness and child levels of reasoning. No, anon, you target infraestructure at a short term, and ideology at a long term goal, people born every minute especially nonwhite ones. It's like you went straight from the rambo screening as a child to the live fire from the shit, and never questioned anything. I'm willing to bet that if somebody do enough studies on the prepuce it would lead to finds about it being linked to critical thinking developement at early ages

you target infraestructure at a short term, and ideology at a long term goal

This is quite literally exactly what we did lmfao

If you're not a negro, mexican, or jew. Europe is closer than being your nation than the U.S.

Negros and Jews only exist in North America because Europeans brought them here.
It's our continent.

wow cool you killed 5 million civilians that went about their day in some desert shithole. thats an achievement to be behold.
mutts just cant see how insane they look to the rest of the world.

mass murdering is like breakfast for them.

NOooooOOoo its everybody else but me

muh MOrality, princiapsl BLA BLA BLA BLA

unreal

THE NAIZIS ARE THE BAD GUYS THEYRE OVER THERE

mass murders another town full of children and women

THEYRE LE EBIN TERRORISTS le war on zhe terror.

youre completely fucking insane and you cant see it.
people like me will remember it until i die. you will be held acountable one day you bastards.

Am I the only one that noticed that when they declare war on things like poverty, drugs or terror all we get is more poverty, drugs and terror?

you killed 5 million civilians

they didnt, op is a retard that doesnt understand that most casualties in the "war on terror" were caused by infighting in those countries, not by americans

You'd be wrong, and the war on drugs is the perfect example.
For 200 years America had clean streets and a mostly healthy population. As soon as the war on drugs was ended our streets turned to absolute shit and our population became a bunch of drug addicts.