Why haven't you read marx's capital yet? without it you don't understand how capitalism works

I dont care for Comunism or Capitalism. Im not ideological im pragmatic.
A good system is a system that works.

More than you bolshevik kike

The actions of the Bolsheviks in many ways contradicted Marx and his ideals

Describe what exactly works?

nobody has ever read Marx' works besides right-wingers.
if they did they would be recoiled because of his positions on fags and jews specifically

Nothing much really thats why we are in a litle dark age.

early christians lived in communes with common property. this is clearly written in the apostles' teachings. Jesus called for poverty and distribution of property. why don't you follow his teachings?

comunism is just people living in community goy

Go die subhuman filfth

Your daily reminder that REAL communism has never been tried
Because Real Communism™ is the fever dream of a madman that implies that human nature doesnt exist, states arent the natural result of hierarchies, and everything evil can be eradicated with just one more murder

1 Capitalism is about allowing contracts to happen with reasonable standards.
2 Having debt = cash in a way that 'the debt is too big to fail' is marxism / socialism.
3 Therefore the current evolving geopolitic is socialist failure, especially of far left
Only based leftist movement is human extinction, everything else is reactionary

Marx was an anti-Semite by the way

You have read his pic about as thoroughly as you have das Kapital, anon.

He didn't even finish writing the book himself, he got his boyfriend to finish it for him.

time for numbers

That fat, bearded faggot never had a job. He appealed to other lazy faggots who were envious of their neighbors. Done.

I mean, what are the criteria for a working system? What exactly does it work for?

not only. but you didn't answer my question. also the apostle directly said that childlessness is better than family

besides, a Christian cannot write such things to another person, you are not a Christian

I did and its pseudo intellectual garbage.
Ownership over the means of production in a specialised field, lmao good one.

Tell me how photolithography works and how you can collectively own it?

its jewish and like all Jewish movements it involves convincing low iq retards to chimp out

Let's start with the fact that I am not calling you to build communism, for that the mentality must change very much. People with the mentality of egoists and predators will of course not be able to build it. What is your attitude to Christianity and religions in general?

Without the creation of the theory of evolution. Karl Marx would be a footnote in history.
Let that fucking seep in.

why are npcs so confidently incorrect?
Yes, Marx was a jew and one of the biggest anti-semites of his time.
This nigger had dedicated works about jews specifically like "Zur Judenfrage" or his later correspondence with Friedrich Engels where he laments about all the "Jewish niggers" like Lassalle in New York

Well, not an anti-Semite, but definitely anti-Jewish (in the religious sense)

and? all philosophical and scientific works are always unfinished, because the process of knowledge is endless

Socialism / Communism happen at home, amongst family & frens, or in very primitive small society, it is not generalizable to entire nations in terms of law. Communal or spiritual matters that people attend to in fellowship or small villages certainly have my dollar and political support where we have the same common deferral - in this way, they can have a greater share of the benefit of being themselves, and I take a greater liability of capitalism / "the world, mammon", while still having a lifeline to be reborn each year. This is how it's gonna be in the west and we will have sola scriptura and revivalism / "muh rugged independence", you will not get support for any communist movement because that is a satanic precursor

the medicine for right-wing populism and worse is more welfare and combating class differences

Do you know anyone who hasn't worked yet and has a beard? What do you think about Christianity?

Marxism is a religion.

Good luck defending yourself from bandits, you will be feeding them with your dreams, over your family and friends who turn to reality

without it you don't understand how capitalism works

Karl Marx

You are the perfect person to read that materialist trash.

because i am not an economist and i am not going to go through 1500 pages of theory for something that is not my job and will not impact my life in any way. why are you pretending that this is a book that everyone needs to read? a summary of the main concepts and conclusions of marx's research is enough for most people.

how does a cooperative work? workers elect a manager and then vote on how to spend the profits. that's the simplest case. kibbutzim work great

Marxism creates terrible solutions, Capitalism creates excellent mistakes, but all politics is leftist anyhow so we should obviate the need for it as much as we can and pray for the salvation of leadership and administrators.

No marx was jewish and his family history is on record.
Marx was a plagiarist, retard.
It is highly questionable that he ever wrote anything himself other than the letters to his family begging for more money.

200 years shizo babble by a neet kike who didn't work 1 day in all of his lifetime

why is this relevant in current year?

Should only priests and religious scholars read the Bible?

Hitler also had Jewish roots

Don’t worry, you’ll be gone soon.

How do you feel about Christian ideas about family?

I have, and Marx was retarded

self-hating Jew philosopher

many such cases

what ideas exactly are you interested in?

btw I'm off to sleep i might answer you later if thread survives

russian orthodox jew tries to lecture people about communism and Christ

I'm getting very tired of this

I can't. I'm Mormon.
Not reading any religious texts that violates what I know is true and just.
Yes, Marxism is a religion.

how does a cooperative work? workers elect a manager and then vote on how to spend the profits.

The choose to spend the profits to enrich themselves and then import third world labour to do the job for cheaper.

When other people in that nation complain they claim its racist and start using the profits to undermine the democracy to write laws to suppress competition and also censorship to protect the rights of jews and minorities from racism.

Yea i am thinking we all know how shit communism is by now and the thing we lost was the constitution when you Trotskyites took over America and turned the entire world into this despotic jewish regime that is terrible in everyway.

Anon nazis were both atheist and socialist

why haven't you read marx's capital yet? without it you don't understand how capitalism works

That has never been established beyond reasonable doubt.
Your attempts to change the topic away from marx being jewish are remarkably telling as to how credible you yourself find him to be in light of this detail.
marx was in no sense of thet word an anti semite as illustrated by the fact he co-opted Laroux's Socialism away from naming the jews.

the concept of christian marriage as outlined in the bible. what's so hard to understand? invented by single and childless people

what can I do if I understand this better than you because I read the sources. I have to educate you

The choose to spend the profits to enrich themselves and then import third world labour to do the job for cheaper.

maybe. maybe not. but at least it will be their decision, for which they will be responsible. and now it is actually the oligarch who does it without asking the workers

you are the one who is diverting the discussion from criticism of capitalism to Marx's Jewish roots, despite the fact that Marx spoke out against Judaism

you are the one who is diverting the discussion from criticism of capitalism to Marx's Jewish roots, despite the fact that Marx spoke out against Judaism

Because it never was about capitalism.
The entirety of Marx works are plagurized from the writings of the way more popular Laroux who invented Socialism and identified the jewish slave trade as the runaway capital that needs to be stopped.
Along comes marx who just so happens to be jewish AND related to the criminal syndicate in question drowing out Laroux and his publications with a seemingly unending stream of money.

He's a Cohen, he comes from a line of elitist merchants. Related to the Rothchild dynasty.
He claimed to hate judaism but jews were in the first positions of power.
Why is questioning the holocoast still a crime over there? Why did you give the jews land and autonomy?

You're just the red shabbos goy.

That's not what it reads... its more like alcoholic journalist writes about how humans become separated from their labor value via profits and artificially stretched out division of labor.

You use sensationalism to drive your motives, just like the americans.

Because it's jewish.

Marx was a plagiarist

What did he plagiarize?

Simple as. (((Theory))) doesn't matter, only praxis does.

It's extremely boring and long-winded. Like most left-wings writings, it seems.

Thanks for playing

nigger

Checked.

Blessed frog

So based.

nice waste

a frog with a yawn post

Many such cases

you've read it? lmao@you

True and digitals.

Digits of truth

extremely boring and long-winded. Like most left-wings writings

CHECKED 'EM
WRECKED 'EM

holy based

We don't care about jewish fairytales here, go back to your hole, disgusting noviop.

Spinoza was the opposite of self-hating. He was among the few jews who didn't hate themselves.

its a lot more entertaining to just ignore it all and watch capitalism go down
i think its pretty clear it will be over in about 5-6 generations or so as far as i can tell
all these tech-futurist-techno-anarcho-hippie-freaks on

Confirmed, Marx couldn't entertain a room. He was grouchy, cranky, and borderline violent. His house was routinely found filthy, his habits were unseemly, and his life was spent begging to get enough to cover the printing of his shit.

Laroux and his concept of Socialism.
It was an anti jewish call to confiscate the jewish slave traders wealth.
marx was just the front under whose name the publications happened for the express purpose of drowning out Laroux because then like today the broader public are effectively illiterate and will never scrutinize or question any of this.

Fast forward 100 years and most people just accept the claim of marx having invented Socialism and that the National Socialists being called Socialists were just a meaningless historical quirk that can be ignored.

Checked and Trvked

Again. What did he plagiarize, give some examples.

Marx wrote the first two volumes of capital, and another author finished the third, also the scattered works of his were finalized in the 70s, under the "German ideology", which proved he authored most of his works.

What you're talking about is how is works became dogmatic, and his name became "marxism". He even addressed it saying he didn't consider himself as a marxist at all.

I listens to an audiobook on 2x speed of it and it was some of the most retarded shit I've ever heard

Engels was the one begging him to write, he barely finished most of his works.

checked

Checked

SEPTS PLS?

Those digits just destroyed marxism.

because i read the communist manifesto and thought it was terrible. clearly a case of jewish privilege. guy was living in his own little jewish pseudoreality where jews seemingly do not exist, so things like socialism actually work, and no one tries to exploit it. but the reality is that jews do exist, and if youre not factoring for them, your book isnt even worth my time.

hes jewish, so you should be ok.

the communist manifesto is only like 70 pages. weird..

Again. What did he plagiarize, give some examples.

Squirming around the fact of the matter yet again.
marx plagiarized the very word Socialism to coopt the pushback against jewish slave traders transitioning from bribing the governments into trying to coup them.
The same happened before in Visigoth Spain and it will continue to happen again because this is what the European-Jewish rivalry always has been and always will be about.

t. Jew

How can you plagiarize a fucking word toy mid wit?

digits of truth
karl marx is boring and gay
literal wall of text brainlet nonsense

Same way you plagiarize anything else, dumbass.
That is the point of it all. Get people to not read or understand it because its long winded nonsense designed to be off putting and you can reframe your "ideology" into whatever you want whenever you want.

i hate jews and slavs with every fiber of my being

Because it never was about capitalism.

You say?
The christianity is not about spirituality

probably wouldn't be in the shit we're in if it was required reading

Why should people of other nationalities respect your human rights then? Why not make you a slave then?

The christianity is not about spirituality

I wouldn't know anything about that.
All I as an outisder see are jews creating both religions that split the world together with the slave traders that relied on this religious feud to monopolize the trade between those cultures.

You're an idiot. And I called you out. Now go and pretend you were right and fuck off liar.

The concept of utopian ideal states existed even in antiquity

Socialism was actually implemented by the Essenes, then by the early Christians

it's something mental, work on yourself

I called you out.

No you are desperate to get away from the fact of the matter that marx claimed the name socialism because it was a brand and rallying cry of the native Europeans against jews like his family.
The purpose self evident with the target being the less illiterate workers who dont have time to read all your gay bullshit after a long hard day of being worked to the bone.
Laroux did not talk about a utopian hypothetical but about stopping jews.
Stop trying to make this about anything else but anti semitism.
You can think of that whatever you must and there surely is a nuanced debate to be had but the denial only feeds the issue.

Socialism was actually implemented by the Essenes, then by the early Christians

Yes real socialism was tried by national socialists and they were by no means anti capitalists.

Jews alone don't coup the government, the merchants collectively do. The relationship between commerce and government is one of bribery, what happens when you can't bribe the king who has his own clandestine motives? The removal of monarchy is the creation of a system that can be completely run by the financial sector. This is why in the case of the US the government was purposefully hamstrung so that it couldn't even wage war without relying on the popularity of said government. This is why the US hasn't been in a real conflict in 80 years because nobody would support it. Not to say the US functions like it should

It wasn't means of production that was the problem. It was the bankers. This simple two liners debunks his entire work moot. Not worth reading up the whole thing in 21st century. Just read some abridged ones or youtuber level stuff is enough. Ironically reading all that shit became bloated bourgeois surrogate activities. And it's a German book, why as a Russian do you recommend it? do you miss the Soviet Union or something? Кapaгaнoвa posted a very interesting research today. Why don't you read that up?

The Essenes and Christians were not nationalists, you are just fantasizing now. On the contrary, they were the first in antiquity to reject ethnicity as the main defining criterion and accepted people into their communities based on common ideals.

Marx was a doubletalker. Sometimes he says the opposite of what he really means and in other places he outright lies; where Marxist revolutionaries have to understand that he is lying.

Marx, since 1883, is, now, a perfect example of a Marxist revolutionary.

Laroux did not talk about a utopian hypothetical but about stopping jews.

cool. and how exactly did Marx steal socialism from him? if you think it is possible to build socialism at the expense of enslaving other nations, then you apparently think it is right to build socialism for other nations at the expense of robbing and enslaving Germans?

Im reading this instead

Checked.
There are fundamentally incompatible elements in both European and Jewish populations on a cultural and religious level surrounding the slave trade and finance.
The Visigoths attempts to regulate away these elements fell prey to bribery like they do everywhere throughout history.
Socialism as originally conceived is a nation wide enforcement of what a nation state simply can not.
I dont know why you are going on about Christians now.
Visigoth persecution of Jews was because the slave trade of Christians meddling in politics.

cool. and how exactly did Marx steal socialism from him?

Be so kind as to quote us what he has to say on the competitive viability of communism with other forms of governance.

if you think it is possible to build socialism at the expense of enslaving other nations

You dont build a Socialism and its very explicitly at the expense of the citizenry. Its the public that is putting in the work and being deprived of commercial activity with jews.

then you apparently think it is right to build socialism for other nations at the expense of robbing and enslaving Germans?

I dont understand your train of thought here. Would you care to explain?

I don’t listen to kikes, but it makes sense why you do because kikery is programmed into orcs from birth. Rope yourself fag and sage

Abolish private property.
Oh it's such a nonsense concept from a fucking subversive piece of trash that I don't even need to bother wasting my time.

without it you don't understand how capitalism works

That would the Wealth of Nations. How the fuck did Marx and Engels do a WORSE job of explaining labor theory? How did he do such a piss-poor job of incorporating scarcity into his analytical model?

Sure retard, asking a jewish lazyfuck how capitalism works is like asking a blind person what his favorite color is.

marx died a penniless loser
he didn't understand capitalism himself, how the fuck could he teach anyone else about it

family should be a man, woman, and the children, with the man in charge

when they follow the example of nature--i.e., God's creation--they couldn't possibly be wrong.

more welfare

nobody in america gets more welfare than the niggers, with the possible exception of the prairie niggers
look into how well both of those groups are doing and tell me how more welfare will help

I read it. It was completely pointless cause it didn't describe capitalism a bit and is almost fully a screeching about ongoing apocalypse, and even more pointless cause no commie actually uses it.

Oh, and it's written horribly.

How did he do such a piss-poor job of incorporating scarcity into his analytical model?

as a kept man, scarcity never affected him personally except when his friends and family started telling him they couldn't afford to pay his bills.

All socialism is is Christianity. Which is funny because they so desperately tried to wrench away the state from religion.

I think in actuality socialism's original distaste with religion comes from the common populist theme of land reform and stealing the land of the church. Like monasteries. But outside of this virtually everything socialism came up with is compatible with religion, which isn't a surprise because it was created by catholic states

There's a lot of fantasy novels that are much better.

Which is funny because they so desperately tried to wrench away the state from religion.

That's a Leninist thing to be honest, not about the whole socialism. I think, it's necessary cause the communism is actually an apocalyptic cult and it doesn't want competition.

Second generation socialists like Comte in France were explicitly anti Christianity. But even then he knew that religion played a fundamental role in keeping society from crumbling

All socialism is is Christianity.

I dont understand.

I think in actuality socialism's original distaste with religion

Do you mean the bolsheviks?

Socialism didn't jump out of the ground when Marx wrote his queer little poetry. Socialism is fundamentally French liberal nationalism. It was their "utopia" that they would create that would propel the French ahead as the leading nation in europe. They were going to "evolve" their society using science. All of this with the foundation of a deeply Catholic society. Of course it's basically Christianity

I think it has to do with the Enlightenment. It is anti-religion at it's base. Though later socialists were not always against God. God-builders for example.

I read che guerilla warfare and the meme about communists and lefties writing 1000 words to get their point across is completely true, the book could've been half or even 1/3 as long because he kept fucking repeating himself over and over, I made a thread about it on leftypol and they unironically defended it to, fucking crazy commie niggers

Lmao

You're doing a mistake when you think commie text is a research or something. Treat them it as a religious text made for arousing emotions.

The entire ideology rests on class solidarity which is not real and will never be real. Literally any other form of solidarity is stronger.

I don't think you understand much after reading it, either.

He didn’t understand how it works either

Checked, fuck marx, kikes and leftism.

Yes enlightenment was populism against the church. Kings liked it because they got to steal the church land and sell it for their war chests. Socialism, especially in the third world, is just land reform populism akin to "eat the rich" activism. It is the ideology of the illiterate peasant with a pitchfork

The term is self hating jew. jews cannot be antisemites they merely hate other jews and their own blood because they believe they know better which is a common jewish trait but in this case the neuroticism is cranked up to 11. Marx was just the progenitor of the new type of judaic thought, though seemingly secular it permeates with the same shit.

Well someone said it was more impactful on society than siege, i learned a couple things from it like importance of good shoes and having a factory or repair place to keep them maintained or made new, and also to keep sniping at your enemies at all times with minimal people but especially during night or when theyre off guard and to never give them a break to mentally fuck them, lots of good tips but yea the book was way to fucking long

reading is for faggots

introduction: Labor theory of value is the basis of this work

lmao

I had to read it as a part of my course work for my econ degree. Wrote multiple papers on why Marx was a dipshit who got most things backwards.

Everything wrong in this world, everything that promotes disorder, reorganizes society into a system of slavery, promotes perversions, is against the natural law, the social order traces back to the geographical borders of a certain country in Europe. How can that be bros?

No Socialism is a pushback against Jews in lieu of Waterloo and the takeover of Britain.
It had become obvious to everyone that imperial ambitions were at play and if left unchecked would cause more and more wars in Europe.
The issue with Socialism is it undermines a Monarchy's authority as its an admission that crown enforcement will always be too corrupt.
You can bribe an official but not a whole country.

The irony of Marxism is that it's incredibly bourgeois. The fact that we both exchange our labor for wages doesn't make me feel any affinity for you. Real solidarity is something borne out of affection. Only a complete bourgie jew could consider money-making to be the only valid basis of identity.

Use a better vpn

Socialism is a pushback against Jews

lol

communist never acknowledge the elite oligarchy that rules over the system. Enjoy the means of production wageslave.

Yes.
That is why it was so important for marx to co-opt the word.
It was an established brand with good market appeal.
He simply redefined socialism as a dictatorship that would serve as an intermediary state to crush other forms of government and usher in the communist utopia that itself could not compete with those.

which is not real and will never be real

Sure

FUCKING BASED SNAIL EATER

He simply redefined socialism as a dictatorship

Marx didn't write this, this is Lenin's idea, which contradicts Marx in many ways

the word slave is derived from slav, because they are communist slaves.

the digits have spoken

socialism

capitalism

communism

All words invented by jews. The only thing co-opted are selected tenets of various prior human orders and packaged into these new jewish weapon words. Racism is another word/concept invented by jews.. most of the -isms = jewish

All of your favourite 'dictator manifestos' were ghost written by jews, including your fave mein kampf.

Left another thread to look at the digits.

No marx himself concedes that communism could never compete against capitalism, monarchies or dictatorships and so a dictatorship is needed that he just calls socialism.
Its the entire basis for the real communism was never tried story.
The entire premise of communism is inherently without government and this point by marx is the entire justification for every single communist dictatorship.

It's interesting that Trump began his presidency with fraud and continued with the establishment of oligarchy. Everything is according to Marx.

was Hitler a zionist or did he sign the haavara agreement to get rid of jews?

the concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat was invented by lenin. marx spoke of revolution, that's true. but then there had to be maximum democracy

Please don’t talk to me you worthless piece of shit. I’m leaving the thread after seeing the digits.

nice digs braindead post.

No Socialism is a pushback against Jews

That's nazi propaganda. Jews are a scapegoat for everything wrong with society which they kind of deserve because they're horrible pieces of shit with no identity.

Hitler was a military intelligence operative whose goal was to prevent communist revolution in germany. You could say that hitler used popular sentiment to deport jews into the east but deporting jews was never a core tenant of socialism.

I read the TL;DR:

TL;DR of Marx's Capital:

Marx's Capital analyzes the capitalist mode of production, focusing on how labor, value, and capital interact. Key concepts include:

Commodity: The basic unit of capitalism, which has both use value and exchange value.

Labor Theory of Value: The value of a commodity is determined by the socially necessary labor time required to produce it.

Surplus Value: The difference between what workers are paid and the value they create, which is the source of profit for capitalists.

Capital Accumulation: Capitalists reinvest surplus value to generate more capital, leading to economic growth but also to class struggle.

Class Struggle: The inherent conflict between the bourgeoisie (owners) and the proletariat (workers), driving historical change.

Overall, Capital critiques capitalism as exploitative and unsustainable, predicting its eventual downfall and the rise of socialism.

If you read this it's basically the same as reading the whole book minus the bullshit.

Marxsisters our response?

That is just absurd and you are obviously drunk and or retarded.

That's nazi propaganda.

This is the guy who invented the word Socialism:

His views might be considered anti-Semitic in present times. Leroux believed that Jewish-controlled banks had replaced the social institution of the churches with modern values which he had a negative view of: "We are destined to a future where individualism and egoism will triumph at the expense of the social good; the Jews, a people who epitomize individualism and egoism, are thus predestined to triumph over others." Leroux is highly critical of the modern capitalist economic system which he blames on Jews. According to Leroux, Jews, who had once crucified Jesus, were crucifying the Christian world with capitalist tyranny.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Leroux#Views
He died in 1871 so before most Nazis were ever born.

i watched capitalism, i don't need marx to tell me
plus Lenin's format is better

yes yes the non capitalist agenda is evil, you must stay for the capital

Socialism was invented in france in the late 1700's developing into made up fields like sociology and psychology over the next 100 years

My country watched communism. With all its flaws, capitalism is simply Unattainably better.

Marx predicted conditions would be so bad in industrial nations that the working classes there would revolt
only agrarian countries became communists
can someone explain this to me?

yep it's doing great
surely was communism alone that ruined russia
and every other states that tried(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change), surely stalin followed the book, that respectable guy (that lenin hated)

Labor Theory of Value: The value of a commodity is determined by the socially necessary labor time required to produce it.

Does this mean that if a brain surgeon takes 1 hour to successfully extract a brain tumor from your child, that this is worth the same as a masseuse giving you a 1 hour massage?

no, they havent read it and they will not read it, because they (most of Anon Babble) are teenagers or failed middle age men that think they are smart but actually get all their information on Anon Babble or youtube videos so consequently they havent read any theory about communism.
Anon Babble will ramble all day about jews and shit when jews are just part of the "elite", and the elite are really the root of all problem
but yes, keep believing in capitalism, the rich getting richer and you slaving your dumb ass off
while i can recognize communism has a few problems, it should be the basis of our society heading to the future, we can modify it since its not the 19th century anymore, but it should be the basis

"labor" means "time" and "difficulty" and "responsibility" are not contemplated

that is (you)r schizophrenic interpretation

You are going to have to cite a source.

28% of American adults (about 60 million people) read below a third grade level. (These are the voaters in your neighborhood.)

There will always be elites, hierarchy is endemic because natural inequality is a persistent characteristic of the human condition. The problem is the specific nature of a particular elite, who they are, and what their goals are.

surely was communism alone that ruined russia

Oh, I know this hilarious argument well. "My knife is fine, it's just these stupid pieces of food that are too hard to cut".

Listen here, bro. If your political system declares war on the whole world at the start and losses that war, then it's full of shit. You should either don't try to confront the whole world or be strong enough to withstand it.

And we didn't even talk that communist economy is just crippled according to economic science.

..and the entity of their elitism

Because it's jewish bullshit.

If your political system declares war on the whole world at the start and losses that war, then it's full of shit

good thing that's not what it's about then

Saint simon was the guy who invented socialism, but he was mostly just a utopian liberal. Utopianism is key to socialism because the entire goal of socialism is to create a better society. Utopianism comes from Christianity. The through-line with later socialists is that they don't believe in natural rights, but simon did.

Karl Marx identified Saint-Simon as being among whom he called the "utopian socialists", though historian Alan Ryan regards certain followers of Saint-Simon, rather than Saint-Simon himself, as being responsible for the rise of utopian socialism that based itself upon Saint-Simon's ideas

So socialism is a leftist branch of british liberalism in france which was created to sculpt society with made up fields like sociology and psychology

That is just absurd and you are obviously drunk and or retarded

these are the facts, you just don't know it. the first ideas about socialism appeared among the essenes, early christians, then were set out by campanella and thomas more

It's exactly about it. Read something on world revolution. In fact, this is a declaration of war on anyone who is not yet red.

My country watched communism

Actually not. and the Bolsheviks' policies in many ways contradicted Marxism

"labor" means "time"

This is literally written in the capital

the "world" is actually the oligarchs, the workers are just a minority declaring war on this "world"

it's a wonder they didn't draft more of you to dombass with how disillusioned and depressed you're sounding

What about Christianity?

sorry i'm late

yes, in socialist state like USSR the burocrats and high party members are the elite.
but first, their power will always be submisse to the institution of the state. in capitalism, the economical elite can overcome the power of the state (see all the billionaires buying american politics)
second, which is easier? to become part of the elite in this system (becoming a billionaire), or becoming part of the system, as a burocrat or party member in a socialist state like USSR?

Based. Reading is gay and cuckish.

exclusively, intensity and responsibility aren't important

if true this is officially an additional reason why i don't like Marx

got dinner to make

Like a lot of you under this fascist regime my partner and I have been really struggling. We value your solidarity so much, so if you are financially privileged enough could you please consider sending xer and me a little rent support? These chud landlords who are totally not jewish need to get punched in the face. Until then WE protect us.

Marx was a subversive lying jew

I've read it. Most people the Communist Manifesto is enough. Marx didn't even really finished it. He died. It was finished posthumously for him.

BTW, for all the idiots who are "capitalists" but not Marxist...

The end result of capitalism is one company owning everything. That company then becomes the defacto government. Marx simply said lets skip the messy part and go straight to the end point.

protip: he was right.

If you're a capitalist, you're a marxist and don't even realize it because you're too stupid.

It's useless to discuss the candyland with unicorns shitting rainbows that commies paint sometime in the future. It's actual commie practice that's worth interest.

Nope. The world literally means the world. Commies want to claim every country, convert the people into their faith and kill everyone who resist it. That "it's not literally about massacre" thing is just bullshit meant to mask their real practice.

"utopian socialism" is just a bullshit umbrella term to obfuscate and the word Socialism was coined by Leroux.
Demonstrate to be the usage of the word and not just retroactive application by marx.

Never read it, but why are so many people here defending capitalism with all its flaws? Its better than communism or fascism, but it also has a lot of problems that we now face. Probably because of this jordan peterson cunt who can't even explain basic economic principles.

every form of government (govern=control ment=mentality) you're a faggot tool if you think anything other than anarchy and brute force is the answer.

capitalism

Wasted

I’m not a gay nigger

Actually, there's no capitalism to defend. It's just normal economy and sectarian ways to "fix" it that don't fix anything except for the names of people in power.

99% of goycattle do not have the attention span to read anything longer than 50 pages

All ideologies are doomed to failure because of the eternal normie. But really there are only two arrangements - either the state controls capital or capital controls the state. We can't have the former anymore because the funny mustache man was mean, so we're stuck with the latter.

You are right about that we don't live in true capitalism, but wealth concentration seems to be a massive problem in the world basically everywhere. Maybe we can call it modern slavery with slaves that support it and mindless consumption.

"labor time" means time yes... Wtf is schizo about that?
If you think that tl;dr is wrong then just correct it

You don't need to know how to read. Just have a nice socialist boy read it to you. open.spotify.com/episode/1tJQcujnXFo3phklNGaZ3l

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against solving problems in modern economy. I'm against sectarian ideologies that state the universally correct way to do it that actually don't work.

It is a function in a math formula. Do you ask the same retarded question about "GDP?" Labor time is a representation of the difference between the time in a work day and the time needed to keep a machine working to pay for the machine and the labor to operated the machine.

Not exactly but it's shit anyway. This theory doesn't manage to develop a way to calculate the cost of labor. Given so, it have to use the formulae of normal economy that makes it totally useless. It only adds the ethic thesis that workers are exploited.

communism is low IQ retardation... national destruction at the core.

True

I understand that, like Capitalism, one of the core doctrines is central banking.
Ever wonder why that might be?