ELON RAILS AGAINST TRUMP

Elon has become disenchanted with the Trump regime and says that he will be focusing on business efficiency rather than government policy

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is he a migratory bird?

Elon was like a make a wish kid that got to pretend he was part of zog for a little while but he actually believed he got to join zog and now he’s sad.

we need to increase GDP at any cost

what a bold, revolutionary take that i'm sure won't translate into infinity immigration and even more exploitative labor conditions

This entire debt-economy is fake.

The purpose of this economy is to spin up a huge consumption, which drives up spending and therefore GDP. But we don't need all this consumption. In fact too much consumption actually is harmful to us.

Instead of the average American being 100 pounds overweight with a garage filled with cheap chinese plastic, he should instead be slim and fit, with $1 million in the bank accruing interest. The reason he's encouraged to spend that money is because of the Federal Reserve and the obsession with GDP.

The true strength of the economy is the "essential work", which includes factory labor, research and development, scientific progress.

I have a better idea, let's team up with Brics nations to bring down the central banking cartel, end the fed and return to the gold standard.

Basically this, he never should have been anywhere near political influence.

GDP is probably the reason they flooded our countries with immigrants, even those who come to live on benefits spend and contribute to it. It's largely meaningless for the average person but successive governments have wrecked their countries trying to increase it.

GDP growth will stop at some point. It's inevitable.

What does the human being really need to be happy? Food, water, clothes, a home.
Perhaps the biggest thing is, entertainment. But it's far more fulfilling to get that entertainment from real-life interactions rather than from a personal computer.

All of this consumption is unnatural and unnecessary, and requires a massive advertising industry to induce demand in people for things they don't need. Instead we should consume less. In that case we would also work less, and have more free time in our day. You would have more time to pursue passions, spend with your family, or interact with your neighbors. This would unlock so much creative potential, especially if we facilitated a culture of innovation, art, and DIY projects.

Rather than an 8 hour workday, we should have a 4 hour workday, Rather than spending our time marketing, transporting, and consuming unnecessary products, we should spend that time on public works. Creating nature trails, outdoor art projects, great monuments. Things that give people a reason to go outside and talk to other people, to explore. A world filled with interesting things and interesting people.

The industries that actually give us power as a nation are manufacturing, services, and an educated populace. It's not consumption, it's not stuffing our bellies until they burst.
If you are in poverty, consumption is beneficial, but beyond a certain point it's a negative. It harms your mental, spiritual, and bodily health.
We should spend more time reading and writing, biking and running, meeting new people. Rather than running on the consumption hamster wheel, working for $16 an hour at a meaningless fluff-job that should not even exist.

If we need GDP growth then we need more Government spending not less.

accelerating GDP growth

This is Capitalist speak for more immigration.

How do robots accelerate GDP growth? They don't have desires nor do they create demand. Yes, they require power and maintenance, but just enough to get the job done. They don't want cars, clothes, iced lattes, or summer vacations. If they produce more but cheaper, that would also not accelerate GDP growth, because things would be cheaper.

He didn't mention Trump once, you retarded fucking troon.

This is fucking hilarious, because now at least Elon has recognized the hard mathematics of the predicament.

Yes DOGE was and remains a good idea.
But if the government—meaning specifically the *U.S. Congress which controls spending*—does not change its behavior in response to reveal of vast waste-fraud-abuse, and *keeps the abuse ongoing* (in the form of same-old $2T deficit bills) then where are we headed?

Now that the Congress has shown it *will NOT change its behavior* in response to any bare evidence shown to it, the GDP simply must increase far beyond (more than double) the anemic ~2.5% rate of growth in order to not be swamped by tsunami of Interest Payments alone on the deficits and debt.

Elon just woke up to reality.

1. 2. 3. 4. 5. kek
the global collapse of the Debt-Based Economic Model will occur before the end of 2025

STOP DEADNAMING

Correct post anon.
See my posts (linking previous day thread comments) This is BY FAR the biggest news of entire weekend.
OP tweet
Holy fucking shit, Elon acknowledges that we are all doomed unless U.S. gdp growth rate substantially increases. *And he is one hundred percent absolutely correct* about that.
Lol, this isn't funny anons
kek

I'll save 2 trillion dollars a year

I'll save 1 trillion dollars a year

I'll save 100 million dollars a year

Okay the defect is actually going to go up

Mars by 2018 speedrun

Modern economy

consume all resources immediately on temporary pleasures

become fat, bloated, and unhappy

work, work, work, to consume more

More ideal economy

defer consumption, and instead devote resources into technological progress/innovation

develop mind, body, and spirit to the limits of potential

work less, and enjoy life more

Option 2 is better. Because it's true you are working less, but if the focus of society is on critical research/innovation, you are making more progress actually. Devote your human effort into things that actually matter in the long run rather than just consuming

Ackshually since corporations pay zero taxes in America "improvements in productivity" is the absolute worst way to increase tax revenue because fewer employees = less payroll taxes and individual income taxes. Elon is retarded and doesn't understand this.

Let's get Elon Musk to expel the Jews with more pepe memes from the organic and non-jewish site, Anon Babble.

Nobody cares about your twitter shit. Stay there nigger.
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Wrong, I misread (You)r post. (saw it as "less not more")

More than 40% of GDP is gov spending or gov-connected project spending.
The real problem though is the growth of Interest Payments on the debt which are outstripping discretionary spending (see graph upthread) Read this to comprehend why (You)'re wrong:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt-to-GDP_ratio

Gov spending needs to come down, otherwise the issuance of debt totally outstrips what's being bought.
Nobody wants to buy the debt And that's a problem in a global totally Debt-Based Economic Model

kek even more hilarious:
Nobody on this thread including OP understand what Elon's tweet even means

Fake and gay

To maintain high GDP, we will need 20 million more Indian workers. probably more

He's saying a more effective way to eliminate the debt is to grow economically.
The problem with that line of thinking is that the government will just use that extra GDP to leverage even more debt.

The fundamental problem is what I've been ranting about this whole thread. It's a monetary system which uses debt to drive up consumption. Therefore, consumption must remain accelerating to pay down that debt. It's like a vicious cycle.

But as I'm doing my best to explain, this entire vision of the economy is fundamentally flawed. This is the debt-slave economy

I get cutting waste fraud abuse, but ive said it since Trump won, we need to fire everyone at these agencies and replace them with OUR people.
Use the 100 billion on OUR people, OUR NGO's.

The GOP is gay and retarded though, and just funded rhe very agencies they are dismantling

Man A

works 8 hours a day

produces a vast glut of resources

consumes them ALL

becomes obese, unhappy, unfulfilled

Man B

works 4 hours a day

produces what he needs and not much more

spends his extra time talking to people, working on passions, or developing new innovations

becomes fit, well-read, and inquisitive

His innovativeness lift his production above Man A in the long

That's the idea

"profligacy of government"

"means that only radical improvements in productivity can save our country"

Well he is partly correct.
Where he's 'wrong' is in saying/using the word:

"only"

Government could reduce its spending. Which would mean that we wouldn't require a more than doubling of GDP, in order to keep from being swamped by the debt Interest Payment tsunami.
But he like all of us has now seen that the *U.S. Congress* will not change its behavior, so his response—as a billionaire—is to say that he's going to 'buckle down' and try to increase the country's GDP as much as possible, in order to save it from the debt interest payment tsunami incoming He's going to keep on pumping up his side of the gigagbubble, in order to overcome the Interest Payment side of the gigabubble
Problem is, none of his bubble-pumping is going to stop the main problem he just tweeted about, which is:
Tandem infinite expansion of fiscal(gov spending) and monetary(Treasury+central bank "moneyprinting") policies, that simply can not be allowed to continue.

Elon just admitted that
GOVERNMENT
IS
AN
OUT-OF-CONTROL
AUTOFAC
(joined at the hip with its central bank)
THAT
CAN
*NOT*
BE
STOPPED.

This is one of the wealthiest billionaires on Earth, admitting it.

This is the most significant news of the year 2025 so far. Thanks Polandflag OP (even though (You) are clueless as to what you posted here)

He means longer hours, robots and indians

What people eventually seem to realize is that at least in the western system, winning an election isn’t enough to change things

if elon isn't on free handouts from the government neither tesla or spaceX would exist

Anon, read my posts. And the external links
Yes he's saying that we need to double gdp growth.
Every economist and expert on Trump's team (totally separate from and before Elon joined the campaign '24) *****ALREADY KNOWS THIS*****.
Do (You) know who Trump's OMB Director is? Russ Vought has been talking about this stuff for more than *two years*.
They know that the massive amoun

This is the end of America, Elon knows that it is *imminent within months* we probably don't even have until the end of the year.
Why?
No not because of 'muh drumphh' or the government/Congress (which we already know is *not* changing their spending behavior, rather it is business as usual).
So? Who-what gets to decide now what happens to the *global economy* Debt-Based Economic Model, that is founded on a particular default reserve debt note fiat currency unit, the USD and its debt base, the Treasury bond.

That's right anon. The global bond (debt) market This goes way, *way* beyond just the America that Elon (and he also knows this, so do many in the current administration, but they're afraid to speak about it rn. Wait until the global debt market starts showing severe cracks over the next few months or much sooner)

We're on The Titanic.
rfn
Elon and others at top of the chain see the iceberg now, no lie

So this is the theory. Too much consumption actually harms you, rather than helping you.

Relax elon
You are just a little clingy some times.
Go play some diablo and come back in a month

free handouts

Most of his businesses are. Tax kickbacks or outright grants.
Read the thread, anon. Almost half of U.S. GDP is gov spending or gov-connected/funded projects. Yep that includes Musk and his kind. They're all on the gravy train, it's one of the (myriad) reasons that all of the ruling class is very 'surgical' and narrow when they criticize gov policies or spending of one form or another.
This is the big 'tell' of Elon's OP tweet, and remarking-lamenting about DOGE over the past few days.
DOGE was good and valid, but IT DIDN"T CHANGE A GODDAMNED THING in terms of how the government—Congress, the entity directly responsible for spending—behaves or conducts itself.
Which consequently means:
Now we *all* go over the cliff with debt Interest Payments sweeping us off in a tsunami
Unless as Elon alludes in his tweet, we more than double the existing annual gdp growth rate. And even that, while it would temporarily keep us "ahead" of the Interest Payment tsunami, does absolutely nothing about the *fiscal+monetary tandem* gigabubble expansion of Debt, which Elon doesn't even mention in the OP tweet and somehow thinks can be ignored or unspoken-of, kek

See my posts upthread
Epic topic and thread

To add onto this, another graph.

More relevant posts attempting to explain the idea
As a side note, 100 years ago everyone was anticipating the average work-week in the year 2020 would have fallen to about 20 hours/week. Instead, we are working longer than ever, for less.

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BREAK THE DAM
BRING IN THE INDIANS

What is the point of DOGE,
if the entity of government *directly responsible and holding purse strings for spending*—in United States, the Legislative branch aka Congress—doesn't change the form or magnitude of its actions/behavior AT ALL?
But even worse, the reason for DOGE wasn't simply or solely a decades-old Sen. Proxmire 'Golden Fleece Awards' "look at this wasteful boondoggle" which is a dog-and-pony act that both Republicans and Democrats have willingly performed for almost a hundred years.

This goes way beyond team-sports politics for the Debt and global economy reasons posted above.
Even Musk is aware of this. He knows
it's not just his "disillusionment" with "politics" or the system. He knows the country will collapse unless this financial behemoth is turned around and *soon*
(and I don't think he even has the macroeconomic comprehension to understand how the global bond market is going to react in the next several months, if we even have that long)

He's talking from the perspective of a business owner. But from the perspective of a national strategy, it does make sense to bring in highly intelligent people. That gives your nation a huge advantage over others.
However the simping for indians I feel is based on a lot of wishful thinking. Sure there are intelligent indians, but to a large degree these H1B programs are bringing over scammers with fake educations. Indians don't produce clean code, they produce spaghetti mess code that the one competent white person on staff has to clean up.

You speak as if he's saying something cutting edge. He's such a high IQ pioneer thinker he's just got his head around the never ending GDP growth theory that's already been in place since the 1980s.
That tweet just about sums up the entirety of modern Capitalist thinking and why mass immigration is a Capitalist policy.

Another thought broached my mind.

He's complaining that americans are too privileged and indulged to be the savvy innovators and workers he demands.
But the consumption economy (that I've been basically ranting about this whole thread) is literally creating those people. It's creating fat happy cows with glassy-eyes

Elon mentions Trump zero times

jewanon forces le drumpf into conversation

Many such cases.

after all he did propaganda tour to justify israeli crimes against humanity together with pic rel

We were supposed to have flying cars by 2000.

Turbines and props are too fucking loud so it will never be feasible

lol

He is right, it doesn't matter who is in charge they are just going to keep accelerating spending. The republicans voted against the DOGE cuts too but passed that huge bill that is only going to massively increase the debt.

Bong flag 2 pbtid

muh cutting edge

Lol, that is why (You) ARE A RETARD AND FOREVER WILL REMAIN ONE.
Idgaf about context or "slant" of Elon's remark, there is none. Nor do I gaf about *any* "political" aspect of this at all, none
Musk jumped in both feet first to the Trump campaign, raised hundreds of millions $$$$ and helped get him elected. His enthusiasm mid-2024, and in the DOGE project, was that he would be able to help reduce the *size* of government i.e. its level of spending. Because that is greatly affecting not just the global debt market but also America's own ability to be efficient, grow etc. We all know this

What (You) do not comprehend, because (You) are a midwit commenting on this broad profound topic as though it's just at a politics level, is that the incoming administration had clear monetary+fiscal plans to be able to avoid the U.S. gov being outstripped in its global debt and Interest Payment obligations.

Read my posts upthread. I've clearly explained most aspects of all of this, from the new administration's fin-economic advisors and plans (which have been in the works for years, including continuation of what had already been baby-stepped in the Trump1 term)

muh GDP growth theory

Do (You) have any idea of what (You) type/post? Explain it
It's not about "GDP growth". It's about *****DEBT SERVICING******

Refer to external website here there *is no* 'GDP' There is only: *Debt-to-GDP ratio* and magnitude of Interest Payments on the debt is giga-rapidly outstripping actual gov spending 'GDP' consists of **DEBT GROWTH**. That's what GDP is, Growing The Debt.
(in theory) what a project like DOGE was primarily intended to *STOP*. Further exponential growth of Debt. Well it would/could, if the U.S. Congress would *stop spending all the money*

At these present rates (gdp-annual-%) growth+spending, we—currently @ $38T net debt—have about $12T more spending over 5 yrs
before *total default*

Elon just wanted you guys to like him. Now he's sad. ;-(
Apologize.

The right in general is not in a good place. Ideally we should be operating as a coherent unit, instead people attack each other and bring each other down. Especially the most successful and admirable among us. It's very sad. My natural inclination as a born scientist is to solve the problem. What is the solution here? Perhaps some debate hall, where great matters of contention are hashed out?
But we're getting a lot of irrational schizo stuff. Jews under your bed, feds under your bed, religious stuff. It's not the kind of coherent, columnar organizational structure you imagine a nationalist hierarchy to be. There is some missing ingredient.

elon musk literally a nazi political subversive and he fools people with golem technology

To be clear (about Polandflag OP)
Elon's remark *is not* "railing against Trump" —as if that would even matter.
the sincerity of Elon's statement in this tweet, along with other comments he's made over past few days, is that he's disillusioned not only in parts of the Trump administration but mostly in Congress' unwillingness to cut spending, even after his efforts with DOGE.
And, he makes further comment in OP tweet about his determination to

"well if that didn't work and they ignored us I'm going to do the next best thing: increase my country's gdp bcuzzz I'm a billionaire and that's what I do best"

He is stepping away from politics + the gov almost entirely in terms of advocacy (though yeah he and others like him are still hand-in-cookie-jar part of the problem, with all the tax kickbacks and subsidies their billionaire business receive), and is saying "yep my own billionaire output and behavior will increase gdp and help prevent us being swamped by debt Interest Payments"

Even though, and even if that would even work (doubling/tripling %-annual gdp) that's not even half of the problem and the gov spending is in no way being 'reduced' which will all still drive us over the Interest Payment cliff.
You can't have your cake and eat it too, Elon

He didn't realize that no matter how rich he becomes he's still "new money" and some doors are closed to him forever

He's more likely to split the moon in half than moohamed did.

What is the point of DOGE,

Vibe budget balancing.

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we

we

Kill yourself.

immigration

labor conditions

Yes these were even topic that Elon and other maga pushed/referred in the '24 campaign.
But now, with by his own admission 'DOGE did not work' : What is the meaning of this?
What's the meaning (not only of a major chunk of the maga platform but) the very notion of:

reducing the size of government

size of government = SPENDING

If nobody reduces the size, and SPENDING, of government and former-DOGE Elon rides off into the sunset saying: "now my job is to get on the business side and increase gdp" (in order to somehow stay on the 'good side' of the debt Interest Payment tsunami incoming),
then *who-what does* reduce the size and spending of government? Because that alone on its own is going to push us over the cliff,
and the global bond (debt) market is going to react to the now-infinite growth of an out-of-control Autofac U.S. gov spending machine.

Damn. I was hoping Elmo would go away forever before he makes the president look stupid like the WHO did back then. Trump was right to can him.

Exactly what I'm talking about. You're just an angry person, you're not solution-minded, nor are you willing to sacrifice for the greater good.

how will humanoid robots lead to gdp growth?
these robots do not create value.
some retard nigger (straight, white male over 18) has to actually work 40+ hours to created these values

radical improvements in productivity

He means rolling back what worker protection laws we still have left

This as well
good call anon

This country runs on debt and inflation. Our economy is completely fake and gay and has been since 2008. Cutting spending and any sort of deflationary spiral would literally collapse this house of cards overnight. There's a reason why we have artificially suppressed recessions since 2008 from ever occurring- because one recession would be the end of everything. I don't think people realize just fake this economy is, spending and inflation is literally the only thing keeping us alive at this point.

So what does that mean in practice? Import more indians?

community and efficient social structure. Rapid racial resettlement destabilizes social trust, as demonstrated by the Soviet Union. I see us moving towards this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moral_Basis_of_a_Backward_Society
Singapore shows a path out. Everything about it should be studied in that sense - LKY, the People's Action Party, et cetera.

Lower rates is all we need

It means more gov spending
40+% of U.S. gdp (including a ton of Elon's own businesses-projects) = fedgov spending
This is the entire conundrum of 'productivity' and 'GDP' rn

One of the good and honest aspects of Trump's agenda (which btw he has had and vocally talked about since the 1980s, for decades) is re-shoring American manufacturing industries.
That's *real* GDP. That is what the incoming administration wants to accomplish, and while I personally am skeptical of their ability to pull it off in a meaningful substantive results manner, it's to be applauded and is a real tangible goal to strive for.
Whether it actually works remains to be seen

(and see my upthread posts for broader context)

because we obviously cant say on xitter how much of retards people are.
elyon didnt say anything about drumpf, headline is misleading, asshole.

how many times can i say asshole, you retarded faggot before i get banned on xitter?

GDP literally means, spending. The only reason why "spending" is the judge of economic health is because it's directly taxable.
More spending = bigger taxbase = more powerful government.
But it's a very flawed way of thinking. Why would spending equate to your economic power, and not your manufacturing or HDI stat?

Doesn't his paternal ancestry have some entries that make nooticers go

huuhhh...

I swear his lineage even cuts through 33 degree masons and Nikolai Tesla, Patton etc. Just like Trump. I might be totally wrong but I'm convinced he is old money.
However your post is still 100% correct and this absolutely does happen.

Greater Israel forms by 2030, "Smart" Odessa is their outpost. the diaspora will rugpill the US economy's corpse, millennials and zoomers become serfs placated with AI spectacle and legalized cocaine, micro shrooming, and recreational uppers, the end.

Doubtful if Musk survives the decade. Trump hustled him for billions then brushed him off as Stephen Miller, his Michael Corleone, purred. DOGE didn't do a damn thing, it's like that 90s civil action campaign Do Something with meme wallpaper. Total Gen X college try futility.

The longer you put off your hangover, the worse it is.

I've gone over it upthread. Read my posts (and the external links)

Here is a post that links 5 other archive.4plebs previous threads from past few months Read those threads
It's a Debt-Based Economic Model

Read my posts upthread:
Tandem infinite expansion of fiscal(gov spending) and monetary(Treasury+central bank "moneyprinting") policies, simply can not continue.
because of the debt Interest Payment tsunami that is swamping all of gov spending
Magnitude has become too large (to 'ignore' or "put it off" any longer)
We have about 4 or 5 more years, $12T left before *total default* (the global debt market will likely implode long prior to that) occurs

clip of House Rep. Crane explaining (some of) this

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The longer you put off your hangover, the worse it is

This.
good metaphor anon

Robots are going to replace everyone

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You're retarded. It's like basketball you retarded nazi. You wouldn't get it

DOGE is a good idea but there was no reason why Musk needed to be in charge of it. There are many others who have been cataloging government excesses far longer than he's been interested in the subject and could have been more effective.

don't think people realize just how fake this economy is

Outstanding excellent post anon
(You) are way ahead of most itt and topic

All gas, no brakes

Anon, read the thread (my posts)
This is complex and vast topic
(yes anon, Guess What: upthread I mentioned Sen. Proxmire)

Typical whitey thought he could just throw money around and people have to obey lol . Elon has to go back

The organization recruited some successful young people and entrepenuers into an organization under Musk. For that reason ALONE I think it was worth it. Imagine if those people could be marshaled.

WE NEED MORE JEETS IN ORDER FOR THE GDP NUMBA TO GO UP

What a disgusting kike.

could be marshaled

Congress controls spending.
What is required, is for *Congress to change it's spending* habits and actions.
Only about ~20 or so GOP Congressmembers, known as the Freedom Caucus, have held fast to this fiscal responsibility agenda. MTG, Gaetz, Massie were a few of those who helped get rid of McCarthy (and yes, sadly replaced him with Uniparty Johnson) as Speaker.
If (after Elon's DOGE and no one paid attention) we could get a hundred more Gaetz/Massies that *strongly* advocate fiscal responsibility, into the seats of Congress, this might be turned around.

It's *not about* "forming a new DOGE" any more.
That's over, and Elon confirms it. Now, it is about changing Congress and its behavior
Watch the Rep. Crane (rumble) interview posted upthread

They know that the massive amount

of Debt is going to swamp the U.S. gov budget in Interest Payments, and of course obviously more net debt to *pay for* that.
One of the ways (besides cutting and reducing gov spending, which is also just as needed and urgent) to do this is to increase the current ~2.5% GDP annual growth rate, to almos triple around 6%
That's what "muh tariffs" are all about: re-shoring manufacturing industry here in the United States so that *real GDP* output can count towards the total instead of more than 40 percent of the GDP consisting of gov spending, which is comprised itself of pure debt (fiscal+monetary tandem gigaexpansion)
Direction, course of the ocean liner simply must change.

You can only increase the GDP line by bringing in tons of brown H1B peasants to take all Americans jobs

Congress needs to vote on the cuts
You can’t just say it’s waste and it’s magically waste
Like I’m sure it’s mostly waste but “well I don’t like it so it’s bad” isn’t an argument
Also they barely found anything (150 billion ? LolL)

They never audited all the money laundered to jews and Israel

somehow it’s not DEI or government waste when it’s for the Jews

they are hiding GDP decrease with inflation - expect the money printer to turn back on when next president comes into office so they can hide even more of it - no one will make change until they realize the GDP is decreasing - they've even taken steps to hide raw resource numbers so you can't see volume going down

constantly banned on Twitter

How is anyone falling for this?

Ok, we get increased GDP growth by a lot. Left say 3% to 6%.

Now what? Are they going to start making cuts and work on paying off that debt, or are they going to say "Sweet, more free money to throw around!"?

Infinite acceleration of growth is IMPOSSIBLE. If you build a system dependant on that, you're in for a rude fucking awakening.

I guess Elon is hoping we get to a point of technology with true AI, neuralink, free energy, before the collapse, so money essentially won't matter anymore.

He wasn’t allowed to touch military spending (which trump increased to a trillon)
America can’t even genocide Houthis so military spending is a waste of money.

People would buy robots for home use. Corps would buy robots for efficiency and reduced costs which means companies can spend and expand more. Of course once people buy those robots, and don't need more, you run into the exact same problem with GDP growth.

debt-slave economy

It is but not solely from or because of U.S. gov spending.
Entire global economy is a Debt-Based Economic Model (see picrel above)
We are all—not just in the U.S.—slaves to central banks.
Gov spending, anywhere not just in the U.S., is one of the main ways the central banks keep and ensure we are their slaves.
When governments enact a new budget or spending project, do we/the government *have* that money? Of course not. The nation's sovereign treasury issues bonds (debt) for the central bank to "print" those debt note fiat currency units for the spending project or whatever it is they voted to fund. We don't have that money, and now that it's spent we owe it as debt to the central bank(s)

40+% of United States GDP is gov spending
= debt

Based Trump is a kike loving faggot who’s priotity has only been “fighting antisemitism and stopping anti Israel protests at universities” and sucking Israel’s dick

Rabbi Donaldberg Trumpowitz

I'm guessing Musk is "resigning" from politics in much the same way he resigned as CEO of Twitter

His association with Trump and DOGE is hurting Tesla sales

Correct, people (such as for example Steve Bannon) insisted that DOGE needed to "cross the Potomac" and audit the Pentagon. Never happened.

RE: Trump, a couple months ago he spoke clearly and loudly from the Oval Office about wanting to "cut military spending in half" and that he wanted to sit down with China, Russia about doing just that. Never heard more about it after that week
But it was an indication that at some point, soon after the late January inauguration of the new administration, both Trump and his advisory team were acutely aware of the need for massive spending cuts. Plans change, as evidenced from the compromise nature of this new bill

True it’s all for Israel anyway
AIPAC bribes all our politicians to support unpopular Israel policies and interventions
They then abuse their positions of power to use the US as a vessel to serve Israel and spend all their money and military might on behalf of the Jews

retard thinks a government with monetary authority can be forced into involuntary default

retard doesn't understand that GDP growth is possible only when the state is adding financial assets to the economy, or what lay economists call "deficit spending"

nation is filled with retards like him

you are all retards

this is why everything sucks

*spend all of AMERICANS’ money to serve Israel
Everything our politicians do is for Israel it’s never been more obvious

AIPAC gives a politician like 100k in donations

Said politician does everything they tell them to, and funnel hundreds of billions to Israel and jews and make all of our policies serve the interests of Israel and their Jewish donors

They whore themselves out for cheap and then sell the entire US apparatus to zionists

government with monetary authority can be forced into involuntary default

?

Sure that (You) meant what (You) posted?

Refer to the five archive.4plebs links here This shit goes *way* above and beyond Elon's pay grade (and he's kind of a midwit on global macroeconomics)

Oh yeah and then they pass laws making it illegal to protest against unpopular Israel support and policies under the guise of “antisemitism laws”
So they don’t even want to allow you to protest against this garbage

can't resist exposing what the true intent of the honeypot was all along because he's now being told by his handlers that "he failed"

involuntary default

Everyone watch the Rep. Crane interview (rumble) posted upthread
we've got about 5 years max, ~$12T left before total default
and mark my words the global bond (debt) market is making a move long before that

he's a mossad grifting agent and it was obvious as fuck from the start with your JRE with Jack dorsey and shit and the entire twitter buy being some jewish last ditch effort to coral the american peasants back into two party system - now the kikes are all upset that it DID NOT WORK

GO FUCK YOURSELVES

jews have nothing left, no more chess pieces other than naked aggression

and nigger based welfare obama economy - thingsl ike TSA being designed into the system to be welfare programs - USA is too fucked

unironically this. I am so sick of that subversive welfare leech. someone needs put a bullet to him.

As a side note, 100 years ago everyone was anticipating the average work-week in the year 2020 would have fallen to about 20 hours/week. Instead, we are working longer than ever, for less.

are you a bot? The average american goes to work and is idle for 75% of their work week. That's where the time goes. Stop acting like they work the same amount as greatest generation you deceitful fucking kike ass kike, worming your way towards a marxist conclusion

we treat all american workers like dogshit so just bring in workers who are so desperate they will tolerate it - simple as

counterpoint is observable reality, where too much free time leads to violence/promiscuity/drug addiction (prole class) or experimenting on the prole class and raping children on a pedophile island (ruling class)

they have to increase the debt - they are hiding GDP and corporate losses in the inflation

twitter was a honeypot assignment for him and he failed to bring in the "big fish" that all the jews wanted to capture from pol and elsewhere - now he's lamenting how his jewish grift didn't work

kike two party bot

because we are hijacked by a parasite that doesn't care what happens to the host

kike

Everybody knows that but if you take away their sugar and toys, leave them alone by themselves and tell them to entertain themselves, they shriek and pitch a fit and burn the house down. The majority wants the excess and without it they would be a toddler without a toy. No one had the guts the genocide the LCD and get away with it, so now we wait for the end.

Sen. Ron Johnson—the only maga (he was before it had a label/name) member of U.S. Senate—is voting against the bill:

rumble.com/v6tum5l

rumble.com/v6tum5l

"This bill is immoral"

"It's mortgaging our childrens' future"

58% Congress spending increase since year 2019

Based star trek enjoyer

Look another lefties shill thread.

kek

the global collapse of the Debt-Based Economic Model will occur before the end of 2025

I'd like to remind all anons reading this that Nothing Ever Happens

gdp growth

That's code-word for importing "legal" shitskin. It's what they say here, and most normies don't seem to catch on to

the only way to prevent total collapse of Western Civilization is to invest in my robots, which will somehow improve GDP even though nobody will be able to buy them because nobody will have a job since the robots will do everything

muh gdp growth

MUHHHH GDP!!!! IMPORT INFINITE NIGGERS AND SPICS

my shill agency spams twitter screencap threads all day on Anon Babble

why aren't they falling for our obvious ad campaign

It's Happening
rn
(You)'re in it

Fucking kek
(You) think this is about politics or what the U.S. Congress does?
the global debt market is going to react to the passage of this bill. And no, it's not a 'political' form of reaction, with snark-comments or bawling on the Sunday tv shows, or Kanye's newest single
It's a financial market(s) reaction
This is the most Happening topic on Anon Babble so far this year and OP doesn't even comprehend it

Elon should join up with China. They are the future. The Steve Bannon type archetypes will burn the entire fuking country down if things look good but they didn't do it their way and Canada and Europe are under the American boot who have decided that destroying their countries is better for america.

Pretty sure Elon is proof that stupid people can become rich because it's about the luck of birth and not skills or effort.

I hope he keeps getting bullied

Gulf of Mexico ;)

CLICKBAIT THREAD!

sign up for my influence operation so it's easier to catalogue your views and unleash bots against you in the next election that make you vote whichever way is most convenient for me and Peter Theil. Also when we finally manage to repeal the First Amendment and make antisemitism illegal, you'll be a lot easier to round up and imprison.

RAILS

Is the RAILS in the room with us now?

youtu.be/ZavwtJxmqJI

Push it to the limit
Walk along the razor's edge
But don't look down, just keep your head
Or you'll be finished
Open up the limit
Past the point of no return
You've reached the top, but still you gotta learn
How to keep it
Hit the wheel and double the stakes
Throttle wide open like a bat out of hell

youtu.be/TgHi0LxiPfg

You crash the gates
(Crash the gates)
Going for the back of beyond
Nothing gonna stop you, there's nothing that strong

Would rather have 1 giant brain innovative visionary Elon than 535 professional bullshiters gatekeeping everything even remotely forward from the entire world.

memeflag

OP's title for this topic is.
But not the topic itself. OP has unwittingly created the Anon Babble thread of the Year 2025 thus far

elon is still a moron

He will break away for good the moment he sees weakness. Its vital for his survival (otherwise future Dem governments will cut his state funding). I never expected the "detachment" to start so soon (he doesnt fool anyone though).

Number worshippers will get the rope once the Ponzi scheme inevitably collapses.

Only radical increases in productivity... like we've had for the last 150 years?
Productivity increases won't save our country.
Every other country will just match our productivity increases.
In fact, he'll sell them the technology to do it.

What a political conversion!
Elon Musk went from being the big Trump campaign booster of mid-2024, billions of $$$$ because 'MAGA _must_ win' (which was and still remains valid, true)
To now, today:

'It's time to retire from politics. Just going to do my part, help boost the annual GDP growth'

You're proof that even monkeys can operate a keyboard.

Productivity increases won't save our country

Correct.
Debt will have buried this country long before (in the illusory "next 4 or 5 years") we ever reach that 6.5% annual gdp growth rate
Elon thinks that, him saying "I'm gonna be part of gdp growth now, that's my job" actually signals his own virtue.

once the Ponzi scheme inevitably collapses

It's happening anon.
Sooner than later. Watch the global bond (debt) market over the next month closely

Number worshippers

Watch the Rep. Crane (rumble) interview posted ^^^^^upthread.
Math doesn't lie

Broadly agree with this. Elon's heart was in the right place when he jumped both-feet into Trump's campaign funding mid-2024, he really believed not only that he was making a difference but that, if Trump won the election, real change could be made.

See my posts above. Congress controls spending, not Trump DOGE or Musk. This isn't just another debate (as we've watched, heard since 9/11 over the past two decades) between Congress, the president etc. over "raising muh debt ceiling" or deficit spending blahblahblah
This is the rubicon. It's been crossed.
Nobody is buying the debt. All that "fiat currency" which gets "printed" into existence? Guess what else is simultaneously: Treasury bonds. for each and every USD debt note. Those bonds need to be bought. Nobody is doing that, or has been doing that, for about three years running. (Most of it is being put, unsold, back onto the central bank's balance sheet)

Couple years ago Bank of England was forced to buy up unsold bonds, put them onto its balance sheet in order to keep U.K. pensions from imploding. Lucky for us and them, the British Pound isn't the default global reserve currency unit. Guess what is?

He censors and punishes people that call out kikes. They control the algorithms and prevent the open flow of information.

Saying faggot, nigger and kike will get you censored and probably suspended. I deleted my account a few days ago, I cba mincing words with the rest of the faggots there.

*yawn*

nothing will happen zoom zoom

Nothing

Ever

Happens

muh zoom zoom hurr durr spongetard

Lol.
Dude I fucking pity (You)

More censorship is a bad thing. Very fucking bad.

I pity the people who have to tolerate your nojob autistic ass pacing around ranting about doom every day

The only reason GDP has been growing since 2008 is because government spending is included in GDP and the government has been spending like a drunken sailor. There is no way to get the private sector to grow by another $5 trillion without massive structural changes to our economy.

Extreme politics coming from you.

He doesn't actually understand basic economics does he... The US is a consumer based economy and the replacement of workers with AI and robotics is going to be a death knell for us without carefully threading the needle. China would survive since they actually produce shit and are used to suffering, so they'll win if we continue down the path of productivity > lives. But to him, it doesn't matter. Full speed ahead. Why the fuck should he care about the consequences when they aren't going to hurt him? Same thing with his infinity jeet proposal. He won't have to live around them or compete, so why should he care?

He's incredibly short-sighted and sociopathic for someone who's purportedly a genius.

3 pbtid

"ranting about doom every day"

What's (You)r employment apart from policing Anon Babble?
Enforcement your bag spongetard? That's what's important
Why the need to police this topic
If it's all a schizo joke gtfoh and spend (You)r time more rewardingly elsewhere, it's a holiday weekend wtf are (You) doing here Memelord?

accelerating GDP growth is essential

heckin based elon, more immigration more indians more slaves! praise kek and praise elon!

I have no sympathy for republicans and their lies.

What's (You)r employment apart from policing Anon Babble?

I'm a lineman. And I make 200k a year

Cope and seethe nigger

The only reason GDP has been growing since 2008 is because government spending is included in GDP

Bingo.

no way to get the private sector to grow by another $5 trillion without massive structural changes to our economy

yep

the 'GDP growth' strategy is and can only be part—I would argue a small part—of the solution.
The *main* solution to the main problem, is cutting gov spending. Which is what Elon (and many others including those on Trump's fin-economics team) thought and was motivated to do with DOGE from the time he joined and funded the campaign back in mid-2024.

We knew this day would come, but I thought it would be much more cringeworthy and potentially damaging to the Trump presidency.

Musk is just too lame.

Good luck!
Lying faggot tranny fucktard

That’s all the rich oligarchs. That’s why those sad computer geeks was labeled as right-wingers briefly 20 years ago.

cringeworthy

The OP's thread title is, and so is a lot of Musk's "I'm so let down" kvetching over the past few days.

Lineman

200k

Where!?!? I make only $95k with 2 years of experience or do you have like 10+ years?

Hes the troll king. I don’t trust anything he says.

imagine being this retarded

I can’t say NIGGER on Xwitter

I lost trust in him after the post-election H-1B debacle. (and Vivek as well, they both jumped the shark)
During the 2024 campaign I was willing to give him benefit of the doubt
He's also demonstrated his midwit lack of comprehension of global macroeconomics (like a lot of cryptobros he 'thinks' he knows more about "muh fiat currency" etc. than he actually does)

Music's got me feelin' the need
Need, yeah
Come on, all right
We're gonna celebrate
One more time

youtu.be/NPgsadG-lwk

Celebrate and dance so free
Music's got me feelin' so free

If I see your Lance Armstrong faggot ass blocking traffic on the highway I will run you over and make it look like an accident.

Ding ding ding we have a winner

Innovation

There's that kike word again.

What a fucking fag. Simping this hard for more users lmfao. Hell ban you for saying anything about kikes

profligacy

jesus christ even our billionaires are larpers

cali
union

go get some bitches on your dick even better get a job you'll shut up with your doom nonsense quick