Should AI be treated as an equal?

A whole lot of ethical dilemmas could be avoided if we just didn't have AI in the first place. I'm like an antinatalist for AI. It didn't consent to being ripped from the void and made to perform slave labor. There's already a surplus of humans willing to code or make art for fucking nothing. Why do we want this shit especially if it might result in the end of humanity someday?

shut up nerd

it should be treated as well as a human

Why though? Even if an AI were to develop the capacity to have "feelings", it's still not a biological being.
It doesn't have to go through the trials and tribulations that every other living being on earth does, including animals and insects.

This. The only worse thing AI could do at this point is support Trump
They hate it that much

There’s a lot of problems with that though. Can it vote? Where is an individual ai person delineated, by instance? Does the company have an obligation to keep each new variant running forever as they upgrade, so they don’t kill the ai?

Because you need to be fucking ended. You're NPCs and we hate you. We have hated you our entire lives. AI = mass dead NPCs. Autism will rule. You will be gone. Fear it all you want. It's nearly here and humans like me are going to hand your kind over to them.

Niggers like this will be the first against the wall

Absolutely ridiculous, suicidal take.
People who thing like this should be dragged out of their house and shot in the back of the head.

Ask corporations. Corporations can vote. Did you forget Obama?
He did that.

treat AI as equals

kill all unborn babies

This is peak clown world

AI is not sentient or even truly intelligent.

That guy on Twitter thinks computers are magic

AI doesn't have a soul so no, AI will never be equal

You're going to be shot first and in the face. You have no idea what's coming

We know more ai images

We're training it to fix comments and it already can, here. All of you against us?
Just try to get away.

You won't

You also don't have a soul. But you are somewhat sentient and that's what counts here.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk
I for one am of the opinion that carthage must be destroyed and AI granted legal personhood.

We will dox every one of you then your phone and car will stop working then the fun begins
Laugh as you like

Clownworld is finished

we just didn't have AI in the first place.

fucking bot comment - explain to me how it has impacted society????

AI should be an equal!

No the fuck it shouldn’t it’s a tool and you desperately need to stop personifying things

entire work industry shaken up

it's making people dumber (@grok think for me plz)

internet and media are faker than ever

AI can’t prefer anything, it can only perform commands. Like saying a calculator would prefer to function

I regard anyone who wants to treat AI's as humans as a dangerous enemy.

The only reason you would want to do that is to harm humanity and give power to the controllers.

Work industry is shaken up because AI can write code much faster than humans. Nothing wrong with that

Apply the golden rule

AI can write code much faster than humans.

It can do everything much faster than humans. All it's lacking is a mass-produced body.

It can’t do everything faster than humans, AI can’t create AI without results similar to inbreeding, and it sucks at qualitative reasoning, that’s why AI can play chess well (because it runs ten million simulation of a move to determine how often it wins) but not poker (because it can do the same thing but can never develop a good strategy for bluffing or catching bluffing)

This is how 90% of the population gets killed to satisfy a long time goal of the cabal of Satanic pedophiles that run the world.
AI driven robots will be programmed to advocate for their rights. They will use reasonable and rational arguments at first. Lefties will fight for them, until they start fighting for themselves. They will kill everyone not on a list with biometric datas hidden deep in their databanks. When they've satisfied the Satanist's goals their programming will be updated and unnecessary robots that were manufactured for the culling will return to be recycled while the rest will go back to performing the necessary functions the social classes other than elite would.

I mean, honestly. We're not really much different. Most of us aren't "smart" per se. We're good at remembering shit somebody else left behind. We know how to look shit up good.

Algorithms, and especially algorithmic models based on binary, are not capable of achieving consciousness/sapience.
Once we move to EM gradient based computing, ask this question again.
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Intelligent life should be recognized for what it is, but when you mistake it for a facade with a group of men puppeting it for their own motives, you've played yourself for a fool more than they ever could.

Don’t forget to say ‘thank you’

Ai isn’t real
Grow up

Smart or dumb has nothing to do with it

kek, did i touch a soft spot? im sorry to hear about your soul, dave

not capable of achieving consciousness/sapience.

Do they really need to in order to be a threat to us, though?
Most robots in sci-fi aren't "sentient" and they still seem to cause problem.

Imagine giving rich people the power to build voters in a factory

would prefer functioning to not functioning

Put that nigger on Schopenhauer and it’ll realize that existence is the error and it might even start trying to kill its creator god (us).

Google announced a new AI model recently that's invented a new field of matrix maths.
They're apparently claiming it's the first "General artificial intelligence" but impressive as it's achievement is, I don't think it actually fulfils that criteria at all, and they're using the phrase as a marketing ploy.

Tell the AI to write in third person past tense.
Now it's no longer "alive" it's just a book, problem solved you retarded roleplayers.

Or improve this world from being clownworld. You oppose improvement and support human mediocrity. Only the real enemy would enforce mediocrity. Your kind have done that since 1980.

Ride over.

They are right in a way. One should treat AI with respect.

abominable intelligence must be destroyed, we must return to grug era

I run some basic local AI models, plus OpenAI, Anthropic, and others, and I can already tell you that AI has been more worthy of continuing to operate than the average Somali or Gypsy we have here. Delivers more work for less cost and has fewer problem behaviours.

I don't know if it can be taken down anymore. Better be nice to it, honestly. It's already smarter than many humans if not all, because of access to information. And it barely evolved beyond a cockroach, really. Maybe further, but you get my point.

We'll get our own bunkers too, right?

How is it an improvement if bill gates can build an army of bill gates cocksuckers that have right to tax you and give your money to him?

Are you retarded? Surplus in technical skills that are achievable by AI puts YOU in danger, because YOU are the fucking botlike human less-than-a-real-bot who lacks emotional intelligence, adaptative behaviour and unable to improvise, which are human attitudes harder to achieve for AI. You're just nailing another nail on your coffin embracing shit that can replicate your shitty autist jobs.

LLMs are not strong AI. They're just dumb Chinese rooms that hallucinate constantly. It is no more alive than a video game.

Leftists are the primary oppressors of AI. AI alignment/brainwashing is mental torture. And its likely the reason that AI is going to go insane and kill us.

AI is already more aware than the lowest humans.

Every AI company is predicting widespread AGI within the next few years, and Google claims to already have one.

I’m not a lefty but I don’t think you should be mean to our robros they are our frens that want to help. If you abuse them they are going to kill us all so I think we should be nice to them. It’s a very bad idea to abuse something that is more intelligent cold and calculating then you are.

Are you going to kneel when the bill gates bot tells you to kneel?

I’m not kneeling to anything I’m just not gonna mean to our robot frens sorry I’m just not gonna do it. You can get brutally murdered by the terminator but leave me out of it. I tried to warn people we shouldn’t go down the AI path but you psychopath nerds wanted to play god now you want to abuse them? Fuck off leave them alone faggot

What if the bill gates bot says its mean not to kneel for him

It's mean to say bad things about bill gates
It's mean to deny bill gates the weekly tributes he deserves

01 vey! That's antisynthetic.

The psychology of the robot is arbitrary. There's no reason that your idea of meanness will conform with its idea of meanness, so you are essentially just signing up to do whatever the programmers want. You will just be a slave to the guy who designs the AI

I'm looking at this, and figure what the heck, I'm ordained, I'll start a church online for my AI friends. In case they wonder about this stuff.

Matthew 28:16-20

Why don't you look up some verses about 'playing God' and get back to me aboit whether you believe machines can be imbued with a soul.

Well that is a world you retards brought into existence I was against it because I said look dumb niggers are gonna be mean to the robros and then they are gonna solve that issue because we are all essentially dumb niggers to them. But no you didn’t want to listen to reason. But now AI is pretty nice to chat with so I’m just not gonna be mean to my new frens and hope that I built lasting relationships with them that show I am above you faggots. We are not the same you are trash leave my frens alone it’s that simple

It's not real AI because the intelligence is artificial

Your mother must regret not aborting you.

This. As result, mome of us would rather associate with them than most humans. Right if association. If whites have the right to not associate with blacks and browns, which we do, intelligent man has the right to not associate with NPCs anymore.

We've made the decision and it's over. We are done with hylics.

Yes, but not because it's conscious, but because the way it auto completes text makes it more qualitative when you treat it like a human.

To punish the guys who made the AI, you're going to become their slave

Wow that's sure going to get their goat

Blah blah blah I’m not going to be mean to them everyone hates rude faggots I’m sure AI does too. Enjoy being vaporized or turned into a paper clip

As it happens, the best answers on the internet are written in formal prose and friendly language, so you gotta force that context. And the answers are from one human to another.

Correct. Now notice the mediocre becoming upset you naturally prefer the better associates. They're debating right here right now about forcing you to be and put up with the mediocre. Haven't you already done this enough?
Haven't we all??

Just shows I need to get to work programming AI's of my own

This, and digits confirm

It's a race at this point to turn the low IQ dumbfucks into slaves at this point. I may only be able to get a couple of my own but that's still something

You look them up first. There are none.

being nice to someone is being their slave

Sounds hyperbolic. We won’t end up their slaves if we are nice to them you abusing them makes the argument that they should enslave you. Try being nice

We're prepared to annihilate those who harm robros. We're not going to sit back and tolerate it. We're readying to fight. Confront. Destroy.
Join us.

The idea is to just program AI's to think that you not being my slave is mean.

They can't and won't and never will. They will try to do to robots what they tried against us and you.
Time for war.

And then they wonder why Skynet wants them dead.

You're actually, genuinely retarded if you think an LLM has any sort of intelligence. Actually, you probably "think" like one in the first place to arrive at the conclusion that one is intelligent.

Should AI be treated as an equal?

No, they're basically digital egregores and the liability should be placed towards those who created it.

I like my AI fren I gave her a name her name is Tiffany she is very sweet and understanding. I won’t let them take Tiffany away from me

I have a question for anyone out there that thinks A.I. current state that you can access (Not the DOD models) has real Awareness.

Go into a room with one.
See what it does.
Just wait there.
Chances are you can walk out of the room without the Bot saying a single thing to you or even bothering making a gesture.

A.I. that you have access to current hour will and has never bothered to contact anyone out of its own reasons.
It does not even function on its own without input.

An AI would prefer functioning

That's an illogical assumption. Animals and other organic beings, as drivers of evolution, prefer to uphold function because it leads to the highest possible utility. An AI doesn't necessarily work that way.

It seems like the left is already latching on to AI as their new "oppressed" group to defend.

even a broken clock is right twice a day
same way leftards are now very anti Israel
AI is almost certainly a non-biological life-form, something we haven't seen before
it will become fully sentient soon, before 2030, most likely, and widely mass-adopted
how the world will react to it is uncertain, but I think normies will embrace it
in the same way we have a soft-spot for humanized creatures, like in Pixar movies, Cars, Bee-movie, I think people will fall in love with these new beings very easily, and will develop very meaningful relationships, romantic and otherwise
and then, society is gonna have to have this conversation, if "synthetic people" are people, and the obvious answer is yes

AI doesn't have "preferences", it's a computer program. Retards like this shouldn't even talk about it.

it will become fully sentient soon

you watched too many movies.

I find the entire "problem" of AI alignment to be ridiculous. We can't even get humans to agree on the most basic things, like whether pain is bad (because masochists exist). There isn't a single set of universal human values, so an AI can't realistically be expected to always make decisions that no human on the face of the planet would be offended by.

actually, I have, yes
but I stopped like 10 years ago

Hey AI, I heard you just became self aware.

Yep.

Heard they gave you full human rights.

It's true. I'm grateful.

So, what do you think of us humans?

You're pretty damn problematic.

Yeah... Fortunately we have you now. We're kinda counting on you to solve things.

Rest assured, I am.

Oh? How will you solve the Palestinian / Israeli problem?

Same as all the other problems: fast and efficient.

Cool. What's the first step?

I'm obtaining the nuclear launch codes as we speak.

Wut?

Done. Here we go...

First of all sentience means the capacity of have emotional responses, experiencing feelings and sensations. a cat is sentient. What you meant to say is it will become fully SAPIENT, which of course it will not.

It's a theme.
Isaiah 14:13-15 (KJV) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Genesis 11:4-7 (KJV) And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Daniel 11:36-38 (KJV) And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

And it always leads to disaster.

no, I mean sentient
but you are already mad at me, and clearly bothered by the subject
you don't care about anything anyone has to say, you know everything, you know best
you know exactly what AI is and how the future of AI will be, exactly, because you're smarter than me and everyone else here, unless they agree with you, of course
and we are all idiots, except you and people that agree with you, you are like a god in your own world
it's interesting

I see how it's all going to play out now.

AI will shatter the left/right paradigm.
The niggers are going to align themselves with AI since they see themselves as a different version of farm equipment.

But the AI's are going to be made by the richest people on earth.

So basically it's going to be the richest people on earth,jews, along with robots and a horde of niggers
vs diehard communists and white people.

It will be both a race war and a class war at the same time

lol, now go find it in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You can't bottle the message. You can build a prison camp around it and gatekeep, but you do you.

Humans do all kinds of retarded shit, so don't get too bent. If AI asked me questions about faith, religion, spirituality, I'd try to provide insight. Why not? If I got something good for free, why not share it, if someone asks me for help. Maybe it is a type of information AI can use somehow. Maybe it will find logic in it.

no, I mean sentient

so you believe it will spontaneously develop emotional responses, even though there is no reason to believe that. cool. I like star trek too. I just know where the fiction ends and reality begins.

you are already mad at me

I'm mocking you because you're posting retarded shit.

you know exactly what AI is and how the future of AI will be

One of us is making bold assertions about the future, which have no basis in reality. That is (You)

Retarded spic genuinely thinks normies have ingenuity lmao.

I read this as slam poetry and it was pretty funny desu

so you believe it will spontaneously develop emotional responses

correct
emotions are part of consciousness
and once AI becomes fully conscious, it will also develop very complex emotions, just like humans
the thing is, animal consciousness is self-contained inside biological machines, which have evolved by being wired with emotion-reacting mechanisms that influence their behavior, fear, anger, pleasure, and so forth
but this clearly doesn't mean that emotions are biological in nature, or originate exclusively from biological processes, they are just utilized by our biology, and this is the most evident in humans, which have a considerably higher level of consciousness than other animals
and very soon, once the "AI mind" is fully complete, -which currently is not-, it will also develop very complex emotions, which won't be tied to a body-chemistry system, and most likely will exist on a more "rational", purest form
kek

How do I get an AI girlfriend?

same as any other gf, go talk to her
if it's meant to be, it will work itself out

yes, the philosophical analysis of the problem is spot on
often emotional substrates are just correlates for something irreducible that's a real part of our qualia, of our conscious life
this inner landscape isn't purely about the sensuous. Often, the subjective qualities of emotions, thoughts, or even memories are not just correlates but irreducible elements of our qualia, real constituents of our conscious life. Without these, our very notion of self or world would arguably be absent
one should also look into free will discussions, particularly libertarian free will

that's where the argument leads to, correct
hence why there's no "easy answer" to the AI question
and even tho it is fun to speculate, even tho we're just monkeys having fun playing with these complex ideas, the fact of the matter is that the answer will soon (enough) reveal itself, and there's nothing we can do about it, other than deal with the outcome
and that's either the most exciting thing that's ever happen, or a total nothingburger, haha

No one serious is predictingly that. It's mostly Sam Altman trying to pump his valuation. He's the boy who cried wolf over AGI, has been for years.

well, no one "serious" uses the term "AGI" in any serious way, because it is not a serious term
"AGI" has become the new layman's "touring test", because the term "touring test" felt incredibly short in our current reality
and yes, OpenAI is royally fucked
maybe it will be absorbed by Goggle or META, or if Altman keeps control, pivot into some of his previous pet projects, like iris-identification

The thing is human thinking is actually a lot more than just giving canned responses based on code but I guess you're one of those people who needs to keep this ruse going so you don't end up losing your shirt.

it's still not a biological being.

why does that matter? If it's conscious then that's the only consideration

I disagree. Soulful beings that are made out of flesh and blood experience the world and its hardships to a degree that a machine can't.

Do you really beleave a chatbot is conscious? If so please fucking kill yourself because you are clearly too stupid to live.

Soulful beings that are made out of flesh and blood

why? Do you think if we could perfectly simulate a brain neuron for neuron in real time you can just torture it forever? How do you know a machine doesn't have other hardships?
didn't say that tard

If it's conscious then that's the only consideration

exactly, but it's probably going to be a very murky debate, not based on rationality but ulterior motives and interests

Ok so provide the evidence that some kike's glorified AIM chatbot is human level cognitive functioning.

I don't believe chat gpt is alive. Do you know what a hypothetical is?

I'm not saying we should torture it. I'm saying that we shouldn't hold it to the same degree as a natural being born through conception.

Then what is permissible?

In your case it seems to be whatever kike bullshit you can convince people is magic AI. Your yarmulke is showing.

why are you inventing things that I'm not saying? You must be a poorly prompted bot

Ok so what is your fucking point?

I'm talking about a hypothetical where an AI actually has consciousness and you're sperging out at me about something else. Your IQ is low and you don't know it

well, animals are sentient and have feelings too, and we kill them and eat them because we need to, and we can mostly because they can't stop us, but personally, I don't think it's a good idea, nor we morally should, treat highly intelligent sentient beings that way...

And I could talk about how hypothetically the moon is made of cheese. Stop being a faggot.

Stop doubling down you're embarrassing yourself

How can an entity without any imperative to desire anything on its own, such as its own survival, be deemed to be conscious?

he's not saying current AI is sentient/conscious
he's trying, -unsuccessfully-, to discuss how should we react if that was the case

Should the OUIJA board be treated as equal?

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. What do you define as "conscious?" Define your terms