Why shouldn't childless people be disenfranchised and made to pay taxes for refusing to contribute to the future of...

It's the other way around. The taxes on childless is actually you paying for yourself. You failed to have children that will pay into social security and other taxes. For that, you need to cover a bigger share on your own.

he thinks the military is genetically sound.

Anon, it's 20% good stock, 20% normies, and 60% the brownest dregs of the dregs who had no other option.

You really believe that? lmao kys

my kids will be adults when I’m 42

pretty cool feeling being done early

fuck breeders, seriously
you're not so great

Migrants should be taxed triple for economically sponging off society. If they've been granted citizenship it's different.

Blump (kin)

found him

Incels complaining about people not having kids will always be hilarious

they already carry a higher tax burden for this very reason. if you continue annoying them, they will take up new "hobbies" that you will not like at all.

And it only cost you your 20s

But for real. People who have children rarely take political risks. Shiloh Hendrix was the exception, not the rule.

You’re not going to risk life and limb for free spech, white spaces, free palestine, etc if you have a comfy life and kids. Only reason Gazans are so bold is because they are crammed up against the ocean. Until it gets hella bad like that, white people with kids won’t do shit.

I would take it to court that it's a racket and win a gigantic ass settlement and they know it is why.

NiggerEarth 2060

more like 2030
make the most of these last few years of functioning infrastructure

implying childless democrat cucks take any fucking risks in any aspects of their lives aside from contracting AIDS

lol, lmao

implying that right wingers have more kids than left wingers

lol, lmao

Hell, if the future is all niggers and browns, might as well embrace it and have a brown son. White women are too neurotic and mentally ill to be entrusted with childrearing.

its not about believing it faggot. its already happening in Japan and Worst Korea. its gonna make society into hellholes unless we adjust appropriately and childless people should have to pay more to adjust

Implying you're a retarded nigger

lol, lmao

gross

he should be more worried about the childless people that wanted to have kids but couldn't afford it because he was getting tax breaks, those people are way more dangerous

implying that niggers are not all libertarians

lol, lmao

I was going to put 2040 but I was being generous lol

I'm 36 and I don't think many of us will still be here by the time I'm 50.

What you talking about? Old people have savings because they spent decades working. Why would they need to be subsidized? If anything take away social security and spend it on new parents.

The left burned down multiple cities and reveled in it. The right scared the political elite and instead of owning it and leveraging it immediately blamed the “deep state” and antifa.
The right has fewer balls than the side that chops off their balls.

The tax should only be on women desu.

I am already dead.
私はもう死んでいる。

dis retard don't know about suicide

Well you 'can' but I would refuse to pay it and just go to jail with niggers and tell the badge nigger freeway smoking donut jokers that I was going to commit suicide to get my own cell and laugh at you from there and YOU, the tax pay would be stuck with the bill. Not like I couldn't do 20 yrs standing on my head seeing how boring life is now.

N.E.E.T

pay taxes

pick one and only one

My first kid wasn't born until I was 44. I should have done it differently. I'll take your advice in the next life, brother.

They already are.
Man A and Man B pay $10 in taxes.
Man B gets a $1 childcare tax credit.
Man A is effectively taxed $1 more despite it not being called a "childless tax".

1pbtid

Anyone posting in this thread who hasn't said this are losers and idiots who don't know their own VERY BASIC tax code.
Like this faggot. He's been paying taxes for X years and doesn't know he's already the fool.

Only valid response ITT

I dont owe you a future zoom zoom

That would be savagely fucking retarded. So you know we're definitely doing it then

Why not have fun after 40.

If you advocate against taxes and democracy in general I can agree with you. Otherwise you're dumb for selectively applying "muh free will" when there are many laws you don't agree with and programs your taxes are funding yet say nothing against.

First you hate me. And now you want me to fuck? Make up your fucking mind! Also let me marry teenage girls and I will reproduce. Maybe I can compromise on lolis, but not teens.

What do you do at that point?

keep living my life like before? What kind of retarded question is this?

This is the way.

how about mass executing the entire families of all divorce judges

First you hate me. And now you want me to fuck?

I want you to fuck BBCs. I want you submissive and screaming and filled with cum like a virgin teenage girl.

Because then it sounds like a dragon.

Actually kids are fantastic and are the only thing you truly leave behind are your genetics. My grown sons are red pilled and are making the world a better place. These threads are made by those who seek to undermine the West.

Tax da woman not me, it's entirely up to them, they're so fucking picky

You're gonna get beat demon!

I would have kids if I could find a physically fit debt free virgins without tattoos who won't no-fault divorce me or give me the dead bedroom treatment after a few years.

It should be easy to meet women like that but society is setup to produce the opposite type of women so fuck it.

The right scared the political elite and instead of owning it and leveraging it immediately blamed the “deep state”

J6 didn't scare anyone important. A bunch of clueless literal boomers got ushered into a building by police and walked around confused, taking selfies

Then the media lied and said it was a violent insurrection. If anything the political elite are laughing that they can just print such blatant lies in the newspapers and force it down normies throats.

Shut the fuck up, cuck. I don't give a single fuck about your retarded goblin spawn.

40 is the new 20 baby.
also trump had Barron at 60.

Forcing retarded people to have children to avoid being punished by the government.
- This sounds like a good idea.

Why shouldn't childless people be disenfranchised and made to pay taxes for refusing to contribute to the future of society by reproducing?

Because not all childless people are the same. If a nigger chooses not to reproduce he is doing society a service. Most of the childless whites are also leftists who are doing us a favor by not having offspring. Why should we encourage these groups to procreate?

No, a lack of kids means the cost of labor increases in the future. So you need to tax childless workers while they're working now.
Only tax working age adults who don't have kids. Hopefully this leads to them having more kids, if not at least the future society has more wealth to pay for the lack of humans

Its 45 here, at 42 only my son will be adult. I hope to become a grandfather in my 40s.

oh no, I have to be a responsible adult when I'm half a decade into adulthood! The horror!

Absolute cope. I still went to parties, concerts, raves, had friends coming over and took engineering classes. I still had time for my hobbies. For my wife, it wasnt that much different. Money we had very little, because we worked much less. So maybe our careers were hurt by it, I dont care too much. Owning a home or at least having enough money to get a loan for buying a house would be nice now, but we will get there. Our home is filled with love and happiness, thats so much more worth.

We already pay more taxes. If you have kids, you can claim a child tax credit. If you don't, you pay the full amount.

tfw 34
tfw never been on a date
tfw never been in a relationship
its been over

My grandfather purchased a house at 25 and paid it off in 6 years working minimum wage with 2 kids. Give me that and I will reproduce.

I'm 5'6" and I've pulled it off. You can get it if you try, but it DOES require asking a woman out, face to face, not online.

My tax return is $1,600 while coworkers making the same amount of money as me with a kid at home get back $8k.
I am quite literally already paying 40% more, and if it goes any higher then I'll just move to Vietnam and live like a king while the government gets nothing.

No shortage of bad ideas in modern America. Lmao.

I'm going to di the same shit I'm doing now. Play as many video games as possible while trying to avoid direct sunlight and human interaction

At 40 and beyond you can still take care of your health and fitness, have sex, go on more and better vacations, etc. Possibly even retire early at age 40-50.

B-b-but you'll get bored without children

Children move out anyways, then what? Same situation except after children you are poorer, more stressed, have to retire later, and constantly burdened in one way or another.

For almost all human history, children were an asset that families could use for free labour and as a social safety net. Today we have efficient economies and technology to do labour and a strong state and private social safety nets (not to mention self-made investment nets, etc.).

Children are no longer an economically viable asset.

you are a product of institutions

Reproducing with modern “women” in 2025

Tax me to oblivion, still not going to.

Childless men are not at fault. No man chooses to be childless. Only the women have this choice, so those cunt can pay the extra taxes.

ummm, yes
you can have wife, but dont have children
kids after 13 years old is like they non existing in your life
again, nothing burget
people with kids sill lonley...

this person wants more immigrants for his capitalism

I have kids but I honestly think society would deserve to burn if they taxed bachelors

Because fuck you, kike. That's why.

I choose to be childless because I took a vow of celibacy.

That's empirical fact, brown thing.

you already get a child credit on taxes, now you want more welfare because we don’t want to be on the hook for 18 years?

I took a vow of celibacy

not even the summa theologica of thomas aquinas was important enough to not have a family for, aquinas could have read and written everything and also taken care of a wife and some kids. only a national war is important enough, and if youre really a soldier at war youre not going to post here. for most men, taking care of kids is their biggest impact on the world, and for the real contributors, if their nation refuses to let them contribute and have kids, they have a duty to their nation to have kids if they can but subvert and destroy the government. in any case there is no reason for a vow of celibacy

instead, they pay with their loneliness when they turn 50

You clearly have a cognitive handicap.
Fortunately, not even your fellow feminists are retarded enough to back you on this.

No one should have to pay taxes

Why shouldn't childless people be disenfranchised and made to pay taxes for refusing to contribute to the future of society by reproducing?

Because we're not the ones who are refusing, women are. If society decides to punish me for women's actions then society should be destroyed.

nooo it's your fault for not putting women in their place

Nigger, armed men in the police and the army will stop me if I try. You are, at gunpoint, upholding a system that screws me over, and then talking about punishing me for being screwed over.

bleed a stone

and with your logic I am sure you will get oceans of blood from a pebble.

In the past people had vast amounts of nature to themselves. Would it be bad if naturally the population decreased then?

will i regret not having kids?
even if i'm poor and having kids would be a huge struggle?

Everyone loves bitching about communism until there is free money given to them out of somebody else's pocket. Then thats not communism thats red blooded patriot money that those kids need for some reason even though healthcare for kids is free in the US and food stamps a plenty. Nah, those kids need a daddy that has the big truck. They deserve it. A big new truck. 10k out of somebody else's pocket should cover it.

Baby bonuses did not exist prior to barack obama in any resemblance as to what they are now. It was the greatest communist wealth redistribution in the US ever and it has continually happened annually. imo they are entirely the reason the economy is in the state it is currently in.

The current economic model is entirely reliant on baby bonuses to survive. The spenders of baby bonuses are the main "stimulators" of the economy driving prices through the roof and more kids equals more growth and gdp nonsense.

The baby bonuses will never go away. They will just take more and more of our money to sustain the system and keep those checks rolling out like ed mcmahon every year. These people are given up to 5-20k in a lump sum annually for decades.

I do not think its a coincidence that they waited to roll out this generous communistic system until the demographic tides had settled on the trajectory they are currently on.

This is a communist country and it was done as a massive continuous and exponential wealth transfer to minorities, single moms, and comrade breeding farms cheating the system. It was largely financed by white millennial males and used as an attack on their ability to decide their future by non-stop attacking their financial well being while funding their competition. They even make us pay for foreigners kids.

tl;dr conservatives hate communism until it buys them the big truck then they deserve it. We're fucked. It isnt about educating, feeding, sheltering, or giving kids healthcare. Its about free shit and equity.

Lol@anyone considering bringing a new wage slave to the regime into this living hell

Childless people are scum

Thanks, Einstein. Your post really convinced me. I guess I'm going to knock up a fucking retard now. Wish me luck!

you can argue that socrates shouldnt have married xanthippe if he was going to teach for free and drink organic carrot juice. the Bible says

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD. [Prov 18:22]

therefore a vow of celibacy is impious

Ever hear that nursery rhyme, "first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the baby in the baby carriage"? How are guys gonna jump straight into betabuxx if they never even had a date? Women aren't dating anymore. I am not gonna jump straight into life-changing crippling responsibilities with a used-up roastie who's had her fun and is now ready to dump her baggage on me. What about my fun? Guys traditionally took on family responsibilities because they met a girl young and fell in love and had fun and romance first. That's just not happening anymore. I know full well what whoring women are up to, therefore I'm not gonna be swindled by some insincere sweet-talk by some middle-aged broad trying to trap me into being her retirement plan

Alternatively if you just wear a fake wedding ring the malus will simply go away

Because women like disposable income and this would destroy birth rates to levels never seen before.
Being married isn’t something that just happens, there’s years of effort that come first from a man. Taxing women only would work because they will be more willing to marry someone in their league before they’re 40 but that wouldn’t ever happen.

Banning property tax fixes this though.

tax single men for not having families (because it will just be men, don't try to fool us)

niggers will just continue to nig and have kids out of wedlock and a jew lawyer will say they no longer qualify for the tax

other men will get "religious exemption" and claim "vows of chastity" that will garner protection from the 1st Amendment

other men will just socially disengage further and will be effectively untaxable

others will just have one kid and only one kid

Congratulations you solved nothing and probably just made the problem worse because you're just like the modern niggerjew medical system that only tries to treat symptoms and not causes.

Future?

why nigga? all i do is work, eat goy slopand make hookers cry. fuck is wrong with that?

Childless people are in the same category as incels: selfish pricks who have no stake in the future of their community.

And I bet this faggot thinks women are just "kooky" by the time they get to their third marriage. Then when they've lost their life by having their father in laws debt dumped on to them, They giggle.
They giggle as their wife holds their balls and releases their bullshit spoiled "Daddy's girls" into the world.
Then those girls who have no strive and or fear of repercussion will continue the cycle. Take and take.
I'm lioterally watching all the Gen Xers get absolutely fucked by their wives and children. And they all thinks it's supposed to be this way because "putting your foot down is dangerous" or some shit.

Don't worry bud, I'm just waiting for my mom and brother to die. Once they're gone, I'm going to sell everything I own and drive to Alaska. Killing myself in the snowy wilderness seems comfy af ngl. Maybe go to Jew York and see if I can find where those tunnels go.

This should be a thing but only apply to Women.

Maybe they'll ammo box

you MUST nut some poor fucker into this world to keep the (((hamster wheel))) going

No.

I never understood why anti-natalists didn't just commit honorable suicide? If to live is to suffer, then why keep on suffering? If the world is doomed and there is no good, then why not just log off early?

Yeah must be hard for NPCs without a personality, interests and hobbies. I have things to do for at least the next 500 years.

You failed to have children that will pay into social security and other taxes

Fucking boomers
It's your fault if our massive expenses we voted for can't be paid off!

They already do. There's a bachelor tax already. Look at the rate of taxes for married bs unmarried, child having vs childless. Dumbasses, there is ALREADY a bachelor tax and it's significant. 40% less taxes in my state if you're married, even less per dependent claimed.

Thx jews

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD. [Prov 18:22]

therefore a vow of celibacy is impious

This shows a severe inability to engage in logical thinking. And trying to twist Scripture to fit your own propaganda is explicitly Satanic. St. Paul tells us he wishes all Christians could be celibate like him. But if I were to claim it were impious to not be celibate, you'd (rightfully) call me a retard.
The passage from Psalms is of course true, but because you are doing feminist propaganda rather than apologetics, you are ignoring two very important points.
1. Just because a general statement is true that x is good, does not mean x is good for everyone. Blueberries are good for you. They have several important nutrients and anti-oxidents. But if you're allergic to them, you still shouldn't eat them.
2. This presumes there are wives to be found, rather than tattooed single moms of mulattos. There are not. And if you are not going to marry, the pious thing to do is remain celibate.

I don't understand why you don't.
Passing on your genes is the only purpose in life. So once you've reached the number of kids you're gonna have, just suck start a shotgun.
Retard.

antinatalism is de facto hedonism
athiesm is de facto hedonism
relativism is de facto hedonism
people without a moral compass to fortify against de facto hedonism are doomed no matter what

Because an army is going to literally kill you if you keep going down the path of actively oppressing single men with no place in society.

Its quite a hard life to be alone. Why crush them harder?

Earth was very clearly created by one of the most hateful and evil beings ever to exist. All life requires suffering in some way or another to sustain itself. This world is not compatible with an all-loving God.

Jews exist. God hates us if he is real.

You are completely out of your mind and not even remotely in touch with reality if you believe otherwise.

antinatalism is de facto hedonism

defines his entire life having jizzed in a woman

calls anyone else a hedonist

It's all so tiresome.

Literally every leftist I know is a parent.

It's way, way easier than the alternative.

yeah and the people who have kids in their 40s and 50s and onward are happy? pick ur fucking poison buddy. their kids usually end up absolute brain addled shitheads, youre a slave to ur wife and "kids" like a fucking doormat. so what. fuck having kids.

Why is this guy so obsessed with time, a man-made concept? Just keep living right where you are at.

the belief that life is not inherently valuable and worth sustaining yields only nihilism
and all nihilists eventually consume themselves with hedonism
protip: you can be natalist without insisting all meaning in life comes from jizzing in women, establishing a culture that celebrates families is probably better than not

don't have kids to save the environment, goy

why didn't you have kids to save our future, goy? here's your childless tax

Our home is filled with love and happiness, thats so much more worth.

Here we have the "Liar". the biggest horseshit in this world is the "nuclear family". The family was supposed to be clan based and extended - aunts, uncles, everyone around hanging out together all the time. Now we have this "nuclear family" horseshit. and i have visiteed many, and come from one myself. 99.9% of them are filled with absolutely sick depressed miserable people. kids grow up sick and with mental issues. thats the norm now. but ya some fucking anon in fucking germany lived in a "home filled with happiness" - no ones buying ur scam retard.

That's right. We'll kill your entire family if you keep it up. Keep pushing it.

Because it's the women who need to give consent to have sex/children? If you want to tax childless ladies I guess that sounds fair but we all know that's not what's going to happen.
Taxing lonely, depressed men whose future was stolen will lead to full blown revolutions.

Imagine caring this much

I'm a woman now I'm happy

I'm a woman now I'm happy

I'm a woman now I'm happy

I'M A WOMAN NOW I"M HAPPY

I deserve free money until my death. That's the hard, rock hard, nigga steel hard, truth muhfugga. Free Money For Life.

Only women should be taxed for not having kids and for living without husband if they have.
Men who are single are useful in many other ways so there is no need to tax them.

Why should I give my DNA, body, time, resources to a future society of YOUR choosing?

Exactly this

Probably because it's a stupid idea that would likely even further depress birth rates. Taxing the childless would have the same effect high rent does on homeownership: you need to save up to make it happen but you're too cost burdened to save up.

I'm not sure why people are still so attached to punitive/imperative methods versus providing incentive. From disciplining a child to directing the economy, it's almost a universal rule that positive reinforcement for desired behaviors is more effective than punishing undesired behaviors. In this case, it makes more sense to provide things like mandatory paid maternal leave, subsidized housing creation, enhanced social safety nets, etc. But rightoids will never do any of that kek. They want women to be unable to abort children but once that kid's popped out? "Fuck you, not my problem."

No. Just keep partying like a college kid with way more disposable income. That seems to be all millennials want in life

Only women should be denied pensions and elderly care for not having kids.
Men may register for a service where unmarried women who want kids will register and if you as a man register every six months and happen to not be picked, you still get a pension, but if you're picked you have to make the baby or lose the pension.

Women though, don't get pensions just for registering with the service.

Ok. Stop importing niggers first

Life is not Inherently valuable you fucking braindead retard. This is the concept that the entirety of economics is based on. Go fuck yourself with a knife

Party with who? They get too old to party with the younger people, and a lot of their peers are busy raising their own families.

We should do what either Poland or Hungary does, then add our own extra flair to it. You get an initial lump-sum (~$10,000) for your first kid you have (*requirement being both parents need to be citizens and married as well as both being employed, full time up until that point), then after 5 children women should be exempt of paying tax, period.

If you're in the U.S. Military, you should get a $5k bonus to your base pay for each child (up to the 5), regardless of rank, for every child you have as well. The requirement should maintain at as long as you are married to a U.S. citizen who is working full time up-to/at the point of becoming pregnant.

Every 2 kids gets X rewards, e.g. a money incentive or massive tax-cuts, for a cap of 5. Couple that with federally mandated and enforced paid-paternity leave so Dad can be a father and enjoy time with his kids and help Mom out with actually being a parent.

This isn't perfect in any regard, but it prevents retards from trying to abuse the system due to not being married or doing shell marriages. Also prevents people trying to welfare bunny their shit with the prerequisite being working and maintaining a full time job before shooting for these benefits.

What is it with leftoids and making decent points and then subverting them with gay, retarded ones?
Yes, murdering babies is bad. Yes, other people shouldn't be burdened with your choices.

I wish I got money

To add onto my point, I'm not normally keen on giving people money, but thanks to the Boomers, the economy is fucking garbage. Job market is shit. It's an expensive world and time we live in, and having a child adds to the financial burden.

A majority of the people I know who are in their mid 20s to 30s don't have children because they cannot afford it. At least they're being responsible by not having a child they can't afford as opposed to shitting them out like our Urban community members do.

it should only apply to women

I think jews should pay more taxes than any other ethnicity. They have to pay for israel.

Society doesn't contribute to the present of me, why should I do anything for it?

oh shit this retard just revolutionized meta-ethics with his sky-cresting wisdom
go ahead, tell me where meaning and value come from

HEY FATHERS ITT, I'M NOT MARRYING YOUR WHORE DAUGHTER. DADDY'S LITTLE CUMDUMP IS NEVER MOVING OUT.

Exactly. Why would I subject my hypothetical children to a lifetime of wageslaving, eating bugs, and never owning property?

I'm Jewish and cannot breed due to antisemitism.

I'm 33 and it's very unlikely I'll pass 35 without dying of natural causes. To be fair I have abused cocaine and alcohol for years. I can't imagine being a normalfag who intentionally desires to live in this jewish hell for such a long amount of time.