Finding a job is actually impossible now.
Finding a job is actually impossible now
Have you tried walking into local businesses wearing your Sunday best, asking for a manager, giving him a firm handshake and handing him your resume?
left my job around 2 years ago to start own biz (probably the biggest mistake I have did so far in my life)
after a year can't even make money to pay bills and rent, sigghh, let's find a job
for a year after I probably got 3 interviews only for a shitty jobs, and they didn't even call back, some jobs I would apply 1am and they would reply 3am that 'we moved with another applicant', ??
so far lost $50k
my company site has a contact us form to get potential clients, ALL the emails I get are people looking for jobs.. blacked pill me more that not getting a job itself
No clue what fuck I'm supposed to do desu at this point
for a year after I probably got 3 interviews only for a shitty jobs, and they didn't even call back
Same. I didn't even get hired to fucking Culver's.
Golden Age of America
im applying and getting bites/interviews but it's rough out there for the average person
damn sounds brutal
Based young kids these days are just lazy. I was able to pay cash for a house after saving for a few years but they waste all their money on Funko pops and OF subscriptions.
Buy cheap shit at estate sales, customer return sites. Sell on ebay or etsy for at least 10x. The key is don't spend too much.
Sounds like money isn’t moving in the economy. Financialization at its finest
I did nothing all day at work and nobody caree
The trick is you have to remember to pay yourself.
handing him your resume
I have none.
When I see a Pajeet who just got off the plane working a blue collar or retail job when White Aussies are homeless, I legitimately feel like burning the business that employs them to the ground
Tried this it doesn't work, they tell you that the hiring process starts online you can give me your resume but I'm just throwing it into the garbage later and fliming it to motivate the people that we're paying in bags of starburst and sour patch kids
Fake some experience w/ internships and previous work. HR roasties seldom check
Apply to warehouse wagie positions as well, they usually have an open spot for desperate goycattle
I got laid off last month. I’ve been putting in 10 applications every day and so far I’ve gotten two interviews and nothing but rejections. I never had this problem before, usually I’ll have a new job in a matter of hours. Today I got rejected by dominos, that’s a new low for me.
I thought it was going to be tough saving for a house and truck but when I stopped buying Starbucks every day, the savings piled up and now I own a modest 4bd/3ba two storey in a gated community with a custom F-350 dually.
Kids these days just don't want to work.
I will hire you. I've been looking for an entitled lazy crybaby faggot incel
what field? CS? that's what it sounds like
I tried working once, didnt really like it.
Can you name the 10 companies you applied to off the top of your head? Can you explain their business model and profit margins and why they need you in the first place?
looks like you’re overqualified, goy
We are entitled to jobs over immigrants in our own country you fucking Jew. I hope an angry mob kills your family and burns your property to ash
Finding a job is actually impossible now
For you it is lmao
I have money that my parents give me, but I never spend it. There's so many things I need to buy like a new keyboard and headset. I just don't want to waste my parent's hard earned cash. Not to brag, but I might be more financially responsible than 90% of people.
Kids these days just don't want to work.
Exactly, you get it! Plus I worked on 1979 for 3 bucks an hour delivering the newspapers, kids are lucky these days to make 7.25/hr and more. They have only themselves to blame for not lifting themselves up by their bootstraps.
Well, fuck you I've got mine. An American job that gives me freedom to travel the world for half the year, and provides me a place to live in a beautiful Colorado mountain town when I come back to work. $20 per hour is perfectly suitable for my simple life.
I hope you're not keeping it in USD. It's lost a huge amount of value in the past few years.
Fake some experience w/ internships and previous work
I've thought of doing that, but I don't wanna bullshit my way through the job and then make an ass of myself.
America: has the highest rate of drug abuse in the world
Nobody wants to hire a druggie fuckup. You belong in prison. Period.
Logistics, I was a procurement analyst at my last job.
What an absurd statement, I’m not applying to be the ceo of a Fortune 500 company, I’m applying for a job delivering pizzas.
I have a small business, it does well on a profit margin basis but it's not enough to pay my bills and save/invest these days . I started working for a contractor half days so I can continue my business. I've been getting $200 a half day , usually 5 hours helping on plumbing and electrical jobs , some demolition work , whatever im asked to do . Don't know if that works for you guys but check it out if you can. I get offered to bid on jobs other guys don't have time to do . Sometimes I get 600-700 a day for those but it's hard work .
Nobody wants to hire a druggie fuckup
I've never done any real drugs in my life. No weed, beer, tobacco, etc. I don't even like taking medicine, it makes me wanna vomit.
I have sent 4 job applications in my entire life and have never looked for a job for more than a week.
I literally got my first job with a firm hand shake. I didn't even have a resume. They didn't even interview me. I just showed up.
I sometimes get job offers just because I'm sitting at a bar and strike a conversation with some random guy who happens to own a business.
I got offered a job as a code monkey just a couple months ago just because I mentioned that I do programming as a hobby to some random guy I talked to :D
Maybe it's different in 'Murica but on the other hand people complain about how it's "impossible to find a job" here too and I just can't relate.
t. 26 year old with no education
I applied for a job as a laboratory courier right? I have years of experience delivering medical supplies, I have contacts at McKesson and I know how to use an epic and netsuite. I should be a shoe in, literally the perfect candidate, I even have a phlebotomy cert. I got a generic rejection email and the job was reposted to LinkedIn.
It wasn't just any Culver's. It was a BRAND NEW location in my city that actually opened 3 weeks late because they were short staffed.
I have literally tried this. They laughed in my face and told me it’s not happening
Lol boomer
The people who say "just start your own business" are full of shit and just want to dismiss other peoples real problems that they don't have.
To make a business realistically apart from those "self made" basically lottery winners they like to write stories about you will need.
skills, if you're a tradie you'll need to have worked a job before
connections, you can get these from a previous job, or nepotism
startup money, previous job or nepotism
Individualism is a cope for scumbags who want to morally justify pulling up the ladder their predecessors built.
I have a job and it's gay as fuck, why would you want one if you can get by and make excuses for not having one? I would've permanently become a NEET after uni if I could have. Instead I get a little dumber each day and can't enjoy anything.
It's depressing as fuck and broken beyond belief, but you can still live the life of a pleb. Find a low level dork and love on that flabby nerd girl cooch like it's your only chance to reproduce. Because it is.
sounds rough fren. i have a friend whose wife does something like that at a major airline and it sounds like it's steady ateast
have you tried investing in oil?
the job market runs on cheap gas
There's so many things I need to buy like a new keyboard and headset. I just don't want to waste my parent's hard earned cash. Not to brag, but I might be more financially responsible than 90% of people.
That sounds less financially responsibe and more just stingy.
Those things cost like 50$ total and will vastly change your experience.
Just don't eat out three times and you'll have saved that.
Or do some uber for a bit.
There's good spending, and retarded spending.
Consider just how much you'll get out of what you buy vs cost.
If you're on Anon Babble you're probably on the computer enough to justify having a decent setup.
If you barely drive and aren't interested in picking up floozies., you probably shouldn't get a porsche.
I couldn't even find a job 2 recessions, millions of fewer immigrants, less outsourcing and many years ago.
I do something similar now, while it pays most food and gas, it's noway near paying the rent.. mind you I'm an engineer with 10+ exp and I know my shit (hence own work) and all I get is blatant rejection, like jesus I just need a stable job now, imagine how low your ambitions can get
They just tell me to apply online
This.
Then why does everyone around you have jobs?
Then why does everyone around you have jobs?
Probably cause they all started working in high school while I did fuck all.
I think Gen Z should target lazy boy jobs. The liberal-progressive era of corporate wage slave jobs is over. These companies are in the middle of collapsing under the boomer weight while those which at least appear to be thriving are eating their own tail with leftism, DEI, etc. These aren’t medieval institutions like the churches or colleges. They can’t reform themselves and thus are doomed. Life inside of them is going to become more and more intolerable until they dissolve completely. Unfortunately, the era of tree tradesman economy is also bygone. That leaves you with relatively low status lazy boy jobs to pay the bills for a very humble life. Just get one and enjoy your life. If you’re more ambitious, then invest your free time and energy into your own thing. Whatever you do, do not get a job and try to have a career at corporations. Like 5% of you will be able to do that. And no, small businesses are not exempt from this although they are not as bad as big corporations.
Because of DEI hires and nepotism
everyone around me lives out of my shitpost.
just wait until I find a job to see how many people will become jobless...
Yeah dominos store workers need to know business development, shut the fuck up idiot
Make your own job faggot. Are you stupid or something?
It's because HR teams are literally grifting and not hiring people.
The key to success is nepotism.
Ask your family or friends if there's absolutely any way they could get you a job where they work, or with someone they know.
If you don't have family or friend, well I don't know if unemployment is your biggest issue.
in today's day and age that manager is a zoomer retard who is socially inept and will be too scared to shake hands with you and tell you to leave the store because he think's of mommy daddy's stranger danger lessons
The problem with this in my experience is that jobs are still get gatekept by HR whores. I tried to hire family but they threw a fit about it, I got taken off the hiring committee, and we ended up hiring ANOTHER middle aged mom girlboss who will bitch about working all the time AGAIN. My workplace is like 80% middle aged moms at this point.
I have held 20 ish jobs. Never once did I have to apply to more than one at a time.
apply
3 days later call
Have you had a chance to look at my resume? I'm very interested and have a lot to offer your company
get interview
be earnest, honest, and realistic
always have an open schedule
boom, hired
It aint that hard.
I graduated less than a month ago and my job starts at the beginning of June. STEM degree though.
What kind of engineering?
They don't, over 25% of my people are unemployed in my country
I always felt like I was underemployed and never met my true potential. Studied EE, got good grades, had several job offers after graduating but picked the least impressive offer with the least long term potential due to wanting to stay near home and overall just mental illness to be honest.
But it's a state government job, so at least I have an okay life even if I see my college classmates surpass me. It's 10 years on and many of them are like senior engineers at big companies, VPs, etc. I'm an engineer at a government utility and I'll probably stay at this level until I retire.
But compared to what I see younger people going through, part of me feels like I'm still lucky. I'll most likely keep getting a steady paycheck with benefits until I retire in 20 years. I also half expect to not actually get my pension, but still. I managed to sit down in one of the chairs by the time the music stopped.
It all feels so mixed. My ship is sinking, just slower than many others. I wish I had been more ambitious and gotten one of the gravy train jobs when I was younger, now I'm basically stuck in a dead end career. Should I feel happy that I have this shit? I'm 36. How do I break out of this self-imposed rut when the rest of the economy is actually in free fall? I feel like I'm in some kind of slightly uncomfortable bubble surrounded by an inferno
Get actual marketing funnel for your company. Boohoo u lost 50k nigga. Takes more than that to get a fucking business up
I'm not even going to read through the thread because I know you are a faggot. If you can't get a job, it is you.
My company is spending well over $100k at a recruiting event trying to find talent. We are a top OEM, if not number 1, and we still struggle with labor. The company is fucking awesome, pay is top notch, great people, and work environment. All that and we still have to beg for employees.
I was out sick for months and never missed a check. The first week of being out, I got "scolded" for wasting sick days. I was told those were for fishing and fucking off. I don't think they knew how long I was going to be out but they stuck to their word. Even got bonuses while out, kek.
tl;dr OP, per usually is a blistered ass faggot
Zoomers should start doing this ironically , as a bit.
Well good for your company, but no company is that desperate where I live.
I'm currently in my 7th year working as a janitor. Make 25 an hour and im, as I type this, standing in a closet in an unoccupied building reading Anon Babble. Its a dumbass job but whatever.
Got told to apply online but this was in ~2015
wagecucking is the most terrible shit ever. if you're poor consider buying rural and getting a literal shack so you can retire after only a few years of slavery. From there grow shit on your farm and never have to work for Harvey Shekelstein ever again
It doesnt cost 100k to set up a booth at a 4-year Uni and get internships going.
Another bot thread. The correct response is "why yes, I too am a loser".
You aren't losers bros, don't buy the shit that Pol tries to sell.
I have a government job as an EE
my ship is sinking
Jesus fucking christ, fuck you, enjoy being able to pay bills, silver spoon.
I just had to turn down 3 jobs offers and accepted the 4th this morning. Feels kinda bitter sweet because I genuinely would have been happy with all of them. Through some fuckery of the universe they all send me an offer in the same week. Ultimately went with the highest paying one in sales. I've done it before and am quite comfortable in their kind of environment but for a bit it was getting annoying as shit. Nothing for 2 months then all 4 nearly at once.
I will say this. While it is no where near as easy as our boomer parents had it I did personally go in and put my meat vessel into each and every one of those positions place of business to make an introduction. Simply saying hello, dropping the name of the person of contact, inquiring if anyone was available to get a few more details about the position. It absolutely does make a huge difference and rockets you to the top of the pile of random anonymous apps they get.
for a year after I probably got 3 interviews only for a shitty jobs, and they didn't even call back, some jobs I would apply 1am and they would reply 3am that 'we moved with another applicant', ??
Well, it wasn't 3am in India.
Just make one and lie on it. Choose an industry with no skill overlap to what you are applying to but gives an impression that you are a hard worker, eg concrete or landscaping.
Then say you were employed cash in hand as the only laborer for an independent contractor who has since passed away. Leaving you looking for work, and now you want to try something new.
Nobody checks your resume
None of your co-workers care about your past.
Its all just a game, might as well cheat.
How do I break out of this self-imposed rut when the rest of the economy is actually in free fall?
I think it's inevitable that something will change, so I've simply put making any big moves on hold until then. That doesn't mean I'm not ready though, and you should take the same approach. Try to succeed as best you can where you are, but prepare now so you can strike as soon as opportunity opens back up.
Get off your high-horse. My company does something similar, and chases talent at career fairs for positions we struggle to fill. The reality is that we're asking too much, and I'm sure you are too. Even though our pay is way above average, so are our hours, and vacation time is minimal compared to competitors. And if it's not that, then blame whatever department does your hiring. They want to stay employed and/or are terrible at their jobs. Any well-paid position for a company that's *actually* hiring is filled extremely quickly.
EE
Thanks for encouraging words, kek, I know but now im in damage control or I will end up literally homeless, own biz next time
kek
my personal situation is universal
I have a decent job that I like and I'm good at.
I got it because they were opening a new manufacturing line, so they dropped their standards.
Otherwise I wouldn't have got in for "lacking experience".
I don't know your company or how picky it is with hiring people.
In the end it's a roll of the dice.
but gives an impression that you are a hard worker, eg concrete or landscaping.
This is a good idea.
Most people are lazy as shit.
If you can't do a job better than the average normie you deserve unemployment.
I might be able to pay bills right now, but things are getting more expensive at a rate faster than my pay is going up. And I will still never afford to buy a home. I'm continually in a race to find things to cut spending on and find little ways to make a little extra money but it's only enough to just maintain my mediocre standard of living. I also live in an extremely HCOL area. I live what is effectively a lower middle class lifestyle.
I'm working on an online CS masters but CS seems like an absolute bloodbath right now. Honestly have no better ideas for upskilling that I can do while keeping my full time job. I really need to update my actual useful skills because 10 years working in govt service has made me functionally useless to the private sector.
Isn't EE in demand everywhere? At this point you should look to the US since they would actually want you.
If you can’t afford to rent, why not just buy a house? Renting is for temporary populations like when you're a student doing an exchange year or something. You're not supposed to still be in renting like a retard by your mid 20s.
And what do you have now? A wife and family you're raising properly hopefully.
Disgusting kike / golem detected. I'm sure your h1b's will approve any minute now. Soon you and your kind are getting Luigi'd, extra hard.
STEMfag here. CS is indeed a bloodbath, especially for entry level. It’s definitely better than being a wagie competing with spics and jeets who will work for pennies, but if you don’t have some connections to give you an internal referral or an Ivy league degree, you’re not getting hired in the year of our lord 2025.
Fuck off VPN nigger
I see loads of job listings now.
fuck working
It should be, and my exp is very impressive with a good niche and mix of soft/hardware shit, fucking demoralizing when I've been putting all these efforts for a decade and half for schooling and none, like literally im being treated like a coop. I removed my biz from resume I thought maybe, useless, I aced the 3 interview I got in and I even said ok to any relocation, hell, when they asked about money I said I will keep it at the end, one of them was 70k, literally what I used to make as fresh ffs
Yeah states is my plan now, but the whole relocation is just too much and a whole new culture and start alone, but if I got no other option in this shithole I will see
It's called sex work now
It doesnt cost 100k to set up a booth at a 4-year Uni and get internships going.
Our dealers do that, we go after bigger fish. We have to drive product in, higher a third party to set up the booth (required by venue) hire another 3rd party to pull power cords (venue requirement) rent all tables and most AV shit (go ahead and guess why). Also have to fly people in from all over the country, NDA in swag, NDA or hot shot larger equipment. Everybody needs hotels and food. Just the hotels and food will be close to $40K I'm sure.
Just did the math, food and hotels will be roughly $48k
Otherwise I wouldn't have got in for "lacking experience".
Not going to lie, although I started at the bottom at a dealer and worked my way into operations management before going to an OEM. What won me the job aside from nearly 20 years at a dealer (I think) was my military experience. They excepted that in lieu of college. I did have some technical college under my belt but it was unrelated to the field I went into.
Yeah bro just start your own business. You can 100% out compete the businesses with hundreds of millions in assets and thousands of employees and established business connections.
I agree that these people are full of shit. I'd wager 99% of them are scam artists or people who inherit a family business.
The only remaining jobs are gonna be content cringe like this
job listings
My company has a ton of job listings out there, they are necessary for compliance as part of bringing h1b workers for less than half of what an american would make.
actually looking for a job
lol, lmao even
Yes they are only hiring women nowadays.
Disgusting kike / golem detected. I'm sure your h1b's will approve any minute now. Soon you and your kind are getting Luigi'd, extra hard.
I have a good job ran by a White chad. That makes me a kike? Why would a kike give such good benefits when they are cheap as fuck. Do you even know what a kike and a golem is? You could possibly be the dumbest niggerfaggot in this thread for saying that. Don't worry, I'll forget about you long before I'm on the boat fishing this weekend. Stay poor and mad from your mother's basement. I will enjoy the fruits of my labor, I worked hard to get where I am. If we have h1b's it would be very few. Of the few jeets I've seen, they probably spoke better English than me, likely 2nd/3rd gen. I'm still for shipping them back, though.
Finding a job is actually impossible now.
I unironically did the military. I just do not worry about employment. I do wish it paid better, but can't have everything yet.
I have a good job ran by a White chad.
I want to see that beefy White Chad hunk run your booty. In bed.
Based
Finding a job
I'm 40 and never had a real job. The closest thing to it was when I spent summers working for my dad, and I was either on a framing crew or mowing lawns in his developments. Those experiences taught me that there is no value in hard work.
Now I'm a millionaire, own a few businesses, and do what I want all day long.
NEVER work for someone else.
I'm super understaffed but we're going through a mega building boom rn. I don't hire jeets because they are a massive liability but the only whites that want to do construction labour are usually coke fiends and alkies. I literally just hired a zoomer ftm tranny out if desperation and lack of options
$35/hr starting pay with grade 8 education us all that's required lol
checked
I'm not going to dox myself, but I know we are hiring in Snownigger land. Just search OEM websites and what they have posted for jobs. A lot of them require you to download an app. Management jobs take a while to get through the process so you wouldn't start for easily month. You would have to come to the US for in person meetings a few times a year but it isn't bad. We also have a warehouse going in up there but that is pleb work. We have WFH jobs as well, I'm sure other OEMs are doing the same thing.
tl;dr OEMs are hiring
You
Oh shut the fuck up. You academics are the biggest pussies I know who can never cut in the wild. Controls is ALWAYS hiring
Gotta scrape the bottom of the barrel in this economy. I see a lot of new hires around doing work that used to be reserved for literal dysgenic retards.
what does your company do ?
No it’s not you probably just lack useful skills and don’t have motivation. Go work a job nobody wants to work like on a shipping vessel or something.
Really enjoyed being a janitor. Telecom buildings after-hours and nobody was around. I could do three stories in no time. Did it at an all girls college as a 2nd job. It was ok but the girls would bitch when I mopped. Glad I kept that ring I found in the dorm shower.
SKS RAMPAGE TIEM
thanks fren, will check that too. WFH or not I'm ok with, I have been working and doing shit from home for 2 years now so wage commuting would be a change I wouldn't mind.
dude, I have automation (SCADA PLC RTU etc) exp in my early few years before I got specialized in more impressive shit, last week I applied for a company with job description I can talk about for hours (allen bradely etc) and it's 100km away from where I live, literally 10am the next day they replied (we moved with other candidate), how tf do you even move with another one in few hours?! take a week then I believed you interviewed someone better then tell me fuck off, I swear those HR niggers need to be shot on sight
contracting in niche robotic stuff, got few contracts the first few months then dead, like I feel the whole country stopped doing/caring about what I do, plus unless you get a blessing from one of the 3-4 companies that dominate xyz sector, you are fucked in this shithole, learned my lesson
I don't understand how people have a hard time finding work. I hear stories about people submitting hundreds of resumes, but I have gotten my past 4 jobs with only one application each. Genuinely curious if they're lying or applying for positions way beyond their expertise.
contracting in niche robotic stuff
you seriously quit your job, setup a business in a robotics niche and you somehow expected that to fully sustain you within a few months ? you know you are the only one to blame right ?
automation (SCADA PLC RTU etc) exp in my early few years before I got specialized in more impressive
kek we are so understaffed on guy our scada updates we got remote sites that have been done 2 years waiting to cut over and commission.
I have automation (SCADA PLC RTU etc) exp
If you're willing to do boring work, there are plenty of industrial mechanical companies that will pay six figure salaries for that here. Mostly building automation, think HVAC, chillers, and such.
job type + age + experience all have an impact in your job search. An 18 year old will probably have it easier to find a job as a waiter than a 45 year old dude. Being overqualified is a real thing and they won't hire you just for that
Eww...Taylor Swift body.
20 years ago that still worked
yeah I know, it started good but yeah, I take full responsibility, im ok with the losses at least lost trying, not on drinks/women/drugs or anything like that, I can get them back but for now I need a job, and I can't get a shitty one in this shithole
I know I worked when I was fresh on sites doing RTUs and commission and other shit, it's not an easy one and so much field work, and still got rejected..
maybe in the US, so far it's been brutal on me here mentally, but I'm mentally strong I don't even drink and been optimistic, but holy shit just a little bit of hope, I feel companies in here now hire only through connections, normal application won't do. Funny literally in 2022 I would receive ~3 emails a week for jobs by direct recruiters/companies (I even got offers from amazon/MS for 190k and I ignored them), and even contract work which is why I decided to do the contracting thing, bad timing I guess
I fucking hate Fight Club because of this. I am of the boomer opinion that Jack (pictured) and Tyler are just a bunch of ungrateful commies who listen to too much RATM. Most of us would kill to have whatever bullshit job Jack is working at.
can help reduce Chaos
The emperor approves
Middle-aged
Girlboss
Pick one. Why are middle-aged women acting like Tumblrinas?
NO NOT THE GARLIC FESTIVAL NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Serious question: are you a white straight man of normal appearance?
And if so
Where do you live?
Im 34 have a decent work history and have been turned for all sorts of jobs. Things I have recent experience in and even basic work like cashiering.
The denial dilemma is real inside of cities.
know I worked when I was fresh on sites doing RTUs and commission and other shit, it's not an easy one and so much field work, and still got rejected..
its such boring ass work too. all it is you and your buddy with the noisy box opening and closing links to make sure my boys put all the wires in the right spots according to the prints. it pays good but mind numbing
the troubleshooting RTU and devices guys much more interesting because its always something retarded that went wrong
Finding a job is easy. Getting hired is the hard part. I have been applying to new jobs for 4 years and only got 1 interview.
kek RETRIBUTION
Shit man, that's me at my job. I spend at least a half hour every other day falling asleep at my computer.
are you a white straight man of normal appearance?
Yes, although I'm a massive furry. Texas.
I gave up trying, I will just NEET my entire life. I don't care anymore.
Every retard on this website thinks that starting your own business is a ticket to millionaire status and "never having to work again" but I knew the truth all along - that businesses are doomed to fail, take a fuckton of startup money and require MORE work than a wage slave job. At last, I am vindicated (this time publicly).
Yeah kek, actually used to build the panels in the field with all electric work etc. and connect some to solar panels, do the wireless and connect to the scada that I also designed, like the full package, I remember some locations were in the middle of nowhere outside too, so many good memories ngl, I saw a bear and so many coyotes too
yup, while I'm personally ok with over working (I will be doing personal work if not), the funds you would need is crazy, hard reality slapped hard, but you learn yk
even 40 years ago it took 15-20 years for the average person to be able to pay cash for a house, and that would be without vacations or any major expenses.
r u a drug dealer?
Ah, so you are a weirdo.
manager
him
firm handshake
Wrong decade boomer
there are no jobs. covid started the de-jobbing process and ai is finishing it.
bored af at work
can do my job in like 1 hour
why not get another one?
apply, interview, and 2 offers in a month
take second 6 fix WFH gig
life is good
When I hired on they flew a bunch of us to one location and selected from a reduced pool of all that passed the initial process. After running that district for a while, I did a "lateral" move that I had to interview and compete against other internal employees. I'm sure the job was posted to the public but zero fuck chance anyone outside of the company would have got it. Highest profile "customer" in the world wasn't going to a nubee.
When I was in operations at the dealer I was the guy that showed up when managers got fired. I had a minimum 3 hour 1 way drive at the last one a ran. I lived in a hotel for a while then bought an RV and stayed at a park making cash on peridium and cooking my own food vs eating out.
I'm probably on the road vs WFH 50/50. I have to travel to visit and do inspections, talk to dealer principals, OPs managers, and wine and dine customers and dealer staff. Sweet gig, not bragging. Just saying they are out there.
One of my partners in crime made an at least $1m deal in a day 2 weeks ago, never left the house. He sent an email and got an insane order. Pretty nice commission too.
It's kind of required in IT.
this. they even told me they accept all apps for interview. sure enough, didn't get a call back or a response.
well yeah you're competing with 2 billion shitskins worldwide who
have zero problem or shame fabricating their entire resume
can hide their abysmal IQ behind LLMs
have no shame using extreme nepotism
can afford to earn much much less than you
not to forget the fact that they will apply 5 to 10 times to the same job using different fabricated personas, cheat during interviews/tests or the actual job if they get it
Yep. I guess I'm going to have to start hurting people and taking their money.
How do we git gud with this new meta?
here's an idea, if you are gifted in robotics, make cool shit on youtube. In the meantime work as a cab driver or something.
First of all, you don't setup shop for yourself as an integrator unless plant managers have you on speed dial and you grease their palms.
Second, tons of integrators don't even have HR departments, but yes, HR does need to be shot on sight.
Third, how close are you to Michigan?
Michigan anon confirmed. Are you at a full service engineering firm or an actual OEM?
CS has been this way for over a decade. Academics in CS can't cut it in the wild and if you weren't making money before CS, you won't make money after.
You have to take your "CS skills" into another field.
we taking over....taking over
U cant compete, u r useless
Indian century rise up
We take white women too
I'm sure the job was posted to the public
government here does the same, they post a job publicly but require you to be a gov employee of xz grade.. why even post it publicly you nigger and say only gov can apply? don't you have an internal board or something?
I lived in a hotel for a while then bought an RV
nice, I planned to do the same on one of the 3 jobs I interviewed (who never called back) to stay in the hotel, but RV wasn't on my radar.
I have to travel to visit and do inspections,
that's how I like it, I like field/travel/clients/PoC etc. than sitting in the office all day monkeycoding as how most robotic jobs are now these day, boring as fuck, at least in the field outside I get to see nature, some adventure etc. or something active than sitting like a cuck
so it seems, I wish AI fire all those HR niggers I swear I have so much seething against them
if you are gifted in robotics
Im gifted and that's literally my plan to do next and have cool ideas, but I need an income in the meantime, to pay bills and afford those stuff anyway
yeah I learned a lot in those past two years, not tech one, no, the whole thing of how the market work, so I believe next time I would know from where to approach and all
how close are you to Michigan?
like ~7hrs drive probably, I'm far from GTA
Are you at a full service engineering firm or an actual OEM
Not Michigan (or automotive) but work for an OEM with several US based manufacturing facilities. We have global plants as well, but a huge chunk of those are moving back here. That decision has been in the works for years, long before Trump won this go around and the talks about tariffs.
It's red snapper season where I'm at. Doubt the former motor city state has that. Hopefully the weather is good and we can run offshore this weekend and fill ice boxes.
leaving your job to START a business
retard
you're supposed to start your business while also working a regular job, and then only leave your reg job when your business becomes profitable.
You’re demonic poop people.
Yeah I know, but you see, when you are an engineer crunching all day and some times I used to work 12 hrs for tight deadlines back in my job, you won't have any energy to do anything than eating goyslop and watching some other slop till you sleep, so I thought take a break and try that, and get back to full time job if it didn't work because hey, EE is on high demand and it would take a month max to get hired, right!? holy shit no, never had this issue of getting hired but it just shows how fucked the market is right now
Not everything is automotive in controls here, but a huge lot is for sure. Isn't it red snapper season in alabama and florida now? How is that snownigger?!
Traveling/field work should be incredibly easy for you to get anon.
Do either of you anons have a contact?
Also anon, it's not robotics (stick with it if you like it), but broadcast is always hiring EEs
The US is firmly in the end of empire phase. you are on the other side of the world. The median income is 28k for a job. They like to claim 'average' so they can shovel in those billionaires and do household income as well so all the 10 cholo's and paki's in a house push the average up more. In bumfuck thailand 28k may be a rich income, but in the US that is destitute and likely homeless several times in your life.
Yeah it's like they only have continent spanning companies with removed HR departments and no small businesses at all.
I also just walked in on my first job and called over the phone for my second when they didn't even had ads out.
your lying btw.
Literally only White men with REAL jobs are through nepotism / connections
Everyone else is DEI, affirmative action, visas, etc etc
I got two interviews tomorrow.
Feels good lads.
been living off savings for 2 years now
down to my last $4,000
Controls is ALWAYS hiring
This
Needs to check out honeywell and JCI if you cant find anything industrial related. Even when the oil patch slows down, the commerical control industry is always starved for people. it doesn't pay as much with the crazy overtime at first, not like the berta patch, but it is stable and they are fucking starving for people.
My honeywell rep was telling me the other day did finally find a kid right out of school with his instrumentation ticket, started him with a so-0so probationary wage ($40/hr) but also threw in a free unmarked truck for personal use and an unlimited gas card. Once you clear probation the wage obviously goes up, but a kid can live off $40/hr and the free gas thing at least.
They hire EE as well, but usually those guys do 5 years applied field work and then move on to sales or management quickly once they master the product application side. Salesmen with EE are always in demand, even though it feels a waste of a degree, a lot of customers are engineers themselves and prefer to work with other engineers. (I did the sales route eventually).
But anyway this kid they hired, he bitched and moaned about wanting to work from home. Controls is very obviously a boots on the ground career, and this kid just wanted to bind graphics on servers remotely. They can hire someone in India for $8/day if all they want is graphics binding. They had to let him go because he was simply too spoiled and deluded by easy covid-life and an adult daycare education.
Spartan controls, honeywell, JCI, Siemens, I have never not seen any of them hiring. You just may have to come west is all. Berta or Saskatchewan you will find something with ease..
True but it's rough for most because most White families don't think like that, and thus do not have connections
Mainly because hiring incompetent women, jeets, niggers etc didn't kick into full gear until COVID
higher
food and hotels will be roughly $48k
Dude are you retarded?
military experience
Oh, a zogbot. Go die in isr*el please, thanks.
Two words… Security Officer. You won’t get rich, but anyone can do it. My 70 year old Grandma can do it. You can shitpost online while you are at work, and in some states you can level up to being an armed security guard, (or bodyguard if you are Anon Babble). Don’t fall for the mall cop meme. My first post was a golf course and I got paid to just hang out at the golf course all night, it was awesome. Most of the time you can call and find out when they take walk-ins and get hired the same day you apply. They put me to work the same night I first got hired!
Thats what you are competing against
Go to HYS or Oxbridge and get a real job in showbiz where women worship you and you hold the keys to success
Top OEM is probably ABB
1pbtid
sums up this whole thread
Calgary alone has like 9 pages of controls jobs posted.
$65-$85/hr
I know some of these guys and they fucking hate Indians, so if you are white or asian and have an EE degree and SCADA and PLC experience you will be hired. Simple as.
Time to look for jobs laterally. And by that I mean looking for jobs that lead you to dip into someone else's bank account or just make use of non-whites. There's so many ways, just do it! Do it!
As far as I know, these companies don't even require degrees and if you have the right mindset/knowhow and drive, will train you on the job. No?
And even if you don't have the project management experience for that one job ad specifically, these companies have more entry level jobs they may not even be advertising, or they are promoting from with in and will create a vacancy for a less experience guy.
Apply to everything even if it exceeds the experience you currently have. That is how doors open. Again this only applies to a specialized in-demand career like controls.
1) Capital
2) People to tell you what to do/mentor you
3) Connections to provide your first stable clients
also
4) Someone to come clean up the mess and intervene when you're fucking up and set you straight
5) Even more clients once you prove yourself
6) Access to the best shabbos goy to run things once you're big so you can step back and feel less pressure.
Ask any jew, isn't this the best economy we've ever had?
t's not robotics (stick with it if you like it), but broadcast is always hiring EEs
I love robotics and I worked on so many types (industrial, ugv uav, etc), but Im starting to get desperate and my bg is wide (I know IT/cybersec/cloud plus EE stuff), so I would get anything in the meantime or I would either end up homeless or in something like tim horton, assuming they will hire me lmaoo
Do either of you anons have a contact?
here:
[email protected]
Now I'm tired will eat something and sleep, cheers anons
I tired for a honeywell job here, I can't remember what was exactly, it was systems but not in automation, and they rejected me.
Spartan controls, honeywell, JCI, Siemens,
Yeah in the US, you guys have no idea how fucked it got in here, one of the interview I got in (the 70K one) the guy attitude was like he's paying me 400K, and while I showed no signs to challenge any of that bs, still they didn't call back, guess they found someone for 50K
yeah I will check AB, I applied to few jobs there but not many, but last time I was browsing (on indeed too) I found an engineer job with 5y exp and for 60k.. I have the screenshot but on the other laptop, but will check it thanks, idk, if I will relocate from ON to AB probably go the states for better wages at this point
this is a shitpost but it's actually good advice. if you're a man you need to bypass HR departments and speak directly with the owners/managers
I know some of these guys and they fucking hate Indians, so if you are white or asian and have an EE degree and SCADA and PLC experience you will be hired. Simple as.
Can confirm. I had a decent gig and knew the owner. Nice guy, but he hired a few indians and I left. Sometimes consider asking for the gig back though since it was no travel.
I had a manager interview me on the spot with his assistant manager only to heel turn half way through and berate me after nitpicking my resume and by the time I realized it was all just a humiliation ritual because he was pissed about people asking for jobs and interrupting his staff and he wanted to left off steam.
Anon, I'm PMP certified, I'm not a junior, my portfolio is great, I get shit done basically, which is why its driving me crazy for a whole YEAR of search.
sorry all the jobs are for shit color invaders
maybe you should just die quietly and not get revenge
there's drugs and alcohol and pornography - do the right thing
You're*
And nope, most people dont want to do physical labour because they are fat gay retards
Most white families only had one to two kids and if one was a girl she is either off married to a rich guy or she just settled in with some drug dealer, or she has three roommates in East Manhattan and has done who the fuck knows living in her rat infested basement for 15 years.
If you're like many white millennials, your parents divorced when you were 6 and your dad doesn't keep in touch with you. Your mother doesn't know how to spend and is now hitting you up for money, but abjectly refuses to move or make changes to deal with her financial reality.
But yeah, it's my fault for wanting a basic fucking job that funds my living expenses.
Shut the fuck up jew.
If you're telling the truth what's your expertise and where do you live?
This is possible only if you work in small businesses. Until my 30s I had no problem just showing up to a place, asking for a job and getting hired on the spot with a handshake.
Recently have tried for corporate jobs and it's night and day. Kept a spreadsheet with about 100 applications sent in a month and of them, I only received 4 non-instant rejections and of them, 2 interviews. Even did a course for a low-level data-entry tier position and got insta-rejections for all applications sent for job offers in every web platform imagineable.
In canada most controls positions need a degree of some kind, and then they train you on the specifics from there. it can be just a basic 2 year instrumentation tech school degree, I know multi millionaires (with an extra zero after million) who became partners with just a basic course like that.
Some companies even train up electricians into controls tech positions, since they already have a lot of the VFD fundamentals, wiring and work ethic, they then cross train them in controls, project management, fucking bluebeam, and off they go.
Jobs stopped hiring around 2020, and they blanket don't hire white men.
Everyone who got a job before that is working.
A lot of people work "gig" jobs though.
Every year there are more layoffs, and more shit fast food and menial jobs replaced by literally imported labor.
Thanks for the advice, grandpa.
Okay, hire me nigger.
sorry to hear that anon i tried for on an off for years to get a job to no success. litereally every job i got was family connection and short term, eventually went back to school for a and you work a job as the end part of the course deal and got hired. it was casual to start but I was full time/overtime basically instantly. eventually got to various part time levels (take the part time pill). I'll never leave because its the best (most tolerable) job i've ever had and its constantly understaffed (for some reason?) so some level of security me being the reliable sort.
I should be doing something, but where is the opportunity??!?
Your instincts are telling you to do something more, but society doesn't offer that.
Either cuck and accept your role like your forefathers. And then be killed along with your family by niggers in race riots in a few years.
Or fight back and collapse this corrupt society and rule over the chaos.
I know what you'll choose, you're a completely domesticated retard.
Dude if you have a house and savings and can have fun sometimes, you're fine.
Buy land and survival shit.
Who wants to be a VP in this vampire normie hell economy? It's all fake. The only they're building anymore is the control system.
What fucking kind of degree. No one I know who recently graduated is getting hired at all. Which part of the country?
How'd you find the job?
Same here burgeranon
Skilled or unskilled, or workforce is full of indians
Sales is easier to get hired in because it's lower risk for them.
Actually having a career in sales is about finding niche positions then turf guarding them. Some of it comes down to luck.
Grind doesn't really provide the kind of agency people claim. The only real agency in sales comes from your willingness to be unethical.
Honestly that is fucking based
People who work in HR are incredibly mediocre and lazy.
That makes no sense then. If you have project management experience and an EE specializing in industrial or commercial automation you should be able to send 9 resumes to alberta and get 9 callbacks. And then once you are hired within 90 days you will get like 15 head hunters breathing down your neck asking if you are satisfied with the job you just accepted.
Is someone you used as a reference bitter at you for leaving them mid-project and causing huge harm? Were you involved in lawsuits maybe? Sexual misconduct or other huge red flags? Something is really wrong in the background here for you to be looking that long with your qualifications.
i walk out if they are jews/jeets.
They probably rejected you because they knew you would jump ship as soon as you found something better. That is, unless you tailored your resume for the job. Just put a bunch of employment gaps on there and then doordash for the rest of it and you'll get hired straight away for food service
do NOT get a job wagecucking is a jewish SCAM just become the biggest burden to society you can
I have did
Your biggest mistake was not killing yourself.
Nobody will hire an obvious moron.
My company is great
I just grinded for 20 years in a shit job that doesn't exist anymore first while the economy was good and got hired before the 2020 hiring freeze, just be like me.
You're a retard.
be me, 35 y/o NEET
haven't worked since I was in my early 20s
dad says get a job or get out
go to temp agency the next day
temp job
temp job hires me full time after 6 months because im not a retard
been there 5 years, manager now making okay money
if I can do it you can do it.
you can't really git gud against aimbot and wallhack users
it should be on recruiters and the gov to prevent this situation, but nepotistic indians have infiltrated recruiting and companies are lobbying the gov to allow more of these "ultra qualified" min wage workers with 3 phds and 15 years of experience at 25, so enforcement is extremely weakened
there are some companies that have realized how cancerous indians are, but for many it's probably too late and the indian competency crisis has only gotten worse especially jeet hubs like google and microsoft
This works every time.
Even if they aren't hiring, eventually (after 10 in a row) you come across people as desperate to hire.
I could be homeless tomorrow, and in 3 years be making $42 an hour. It all comes down to the persons ability to be honest and have personal accountability.
People who lie get fucking blacklisted. My #1 favorite to not hire someone is when they give off mental illness, low self esteem, and intellectual dishonesty.
Be honest in your own life, and everything is handed to you.
that's how I like it, I like field/travel/clients/PoC etc. than sitting in the office all day monkeycoding as how most robotic jobs are now these day, boring as fuck, at least in the field outside I get to see nature, some adventure etc.
I have been traveling my entire career. Wouldn't want it any other way. Plane travel has become a joke in the past 6+ months. I have yet to be on on flight that left on time for a while. Not a one. I used to fly every week, its become such a pain in the ass I just do it every other week outside of special last minute trips.
I've took my wife on one or two trips, I wish she would go with me more. I get to see the country while she is at home cleaning houses for family and friends. Again, not bragging, but I have a sweet gig. She needs to get out more. I'm usually out on Mon and home at worst on Thur. There are off weeks, but the normal week that is what I try to stick with.
Isn't it red snapper season in alabama and florida now
damn, you caught me. I fish both.
Do either of you anons have a contact
Again, not doxing myself. I will give you a hint. OEM doesn't mean just automotive. Construction equipment is where it is at. We never lose for long in a dip. The Reds push infrastructure, the Blues push green shit. Both need construction equipment to build. It is a win win regardless if we like the policies. The EPA nonsense is where it hurts the most. Costs go up so much due to that.
ackshually my noble indian colleagues are fine workers and I love them
I mean, before the H1b shit lots of indian high caste immigrants were fine, but dude, read the fucking room.
You're obviously a shill
What is with this demoralization shit?
Before the great chan shut down, Anon Babble was unanimous about the shit job situation. Now we're full of Dave Ramsey boomers.
Did they call in the freemason faggot shriners to come in and shit up this site after the shutdown?
2020 hiring freeze,
kek. we announced a hiring freeze in 2020 but never stopped the process...to this day
Nonsense, Australia doesn't have an Indian problem.
The game is ruined go play something else
AT LEAST YOU ARE NOT A COMMIE, RIGHT?
YOU CRYING LITTLE NAZI RETARD!
thanks fren
and I even got more stuff than that but won't go about the details, my past work is project based and proves things are done
Is someone you used as a reference bitter
I never got to the stage where references were asked lmao, unless there's a secret ring that companies use like landlords to blacklist people, I doubt it.
mid-project and causing huge harm?
nope, I was even in touch with previous work boss for few months and I offered before leaving if they needed any help I would do for free.
Were you involved in lawsuits maybe? Sexual misconduct or other huge red flags?
none, my record is virgin, not even tickets or such
be looking that long with your qualifications.
tell me about it, even the companies the interviewed me didn't even give a feedback on why, sent an email to two and ghosted me, so yeah, thanks tho
I've took my wife on one or two trips, I wish she would go with me more. I get to see the country while she is at home cleaning houses for family and friends.
that's my dream job, mix of client interaction, tech work to a degree, mixed with traveling either car or airplane, or others. I fucking hate being in the office with 9-5 or similar work, it's suffocating at my age right now, and too old to be a site boy installing panels or such as all other knowledge I have is wasted.
Is that in control? automation? or just systems?
How the fuck do you people get into this shit? My state university had restricted enrollment for engineering, where if you didn't apply the summer before freshmen year, you were fucked. Plus, I was told by multiple people that engineering jobs don't exist anymore.
I was always good at robotics and have two CS degrees on top of chem, Econ, Japanese and an MBA.
I can't get hired for shit.
I'd love to "skill up" but I have no idea where to fucking start. All advice is this arcane shit requiring years of commitment and I look it up and everyone's like "oh that field was hot like 10 years ago but it's dead now".
How the fuck do you people all get into all these fields?
I have been asking everyone I know for 10 years after I left the military (as an officer). I had the GI bill to do whatever more school I needed. Nobody could give me any answer. All the boomer advice was universally terrible and my millennial peers told me to just fuck off since literally they can't be fucked to do anything ever other than their job then smoke weed after.
When people seem like they do know something, they don't want to tell me as if they're afraid I might seek a job in that company or field and mention them or something like "I don't know you I'm not taking a risk on you."
I feel like all of society is like this.
How the fuck are any of you finding information about what to study, who to talk to, how to get them to even give half a shit about you, and then apply those skills to get a job.
oh wait, almost everyone in this thread is complaining that there are literally no jobs other than one or two shills who dropped in, and the one other guy with experience is on his last leg.
NVM
UGH I have to leave my Ikea house now to go on some bullshit bourgeoise commercialized cruise where I have to listen to "pop music" and like drink and eat all day in the warm sun before chilling on the beach, and there aren't even that many niggers yet, UGH what a humiliation and torment, I wish I could be dying in a cold trench for some Jew king.
the last time I got a job this is literally exactly what I did only difference was that my mother knew someone and that someone called her if am looking for a job
Okay, hire me nigger.
kek
but anon, if you didn't go into robotics, don't, the work is very rare and so is hiring your options are limited, too much stress ad paid like other engineers.
Get into a job in systems or what other anons said like controls etc., easier (ladder lang is like lego) and more fun.
I got fed up and started applying for everything on Craigslist, kijiji and indeed, even jobs I wasn’t going to accept if they called me. I must’ve applied for over 30. I thought maybe I wasn’t applying properly because I didn’t hear back from anyone. Then I got an email from save on foods saying “we got your resume but we gave the position to someone else”. Last Sunday I applied for a dozen jobs. Haven’t heard back from anyone.
the one other guy with experience is on his last leg.
checked
If that wasn't also intended for me, it applies. We all need replaced at some point.
good, you voted for it
I got my 401k bennies job by walking into the boss' office, taking out my cock and giving it a firm jerking in front of them onto the floor.
I work in FAANG with stock options now.
It’s called a copypasta retard
The exact job I want isn't available near me, preferably within 15 minutes and potential work from home options
I'm incredibly picky, I will literally refuse to work while 3rd worlders "take all the jobs"
Bro I literally spent all day opening boxes of veal bones and dumping them onto trays for 25$/hr
Actually shut the fuck up, I bet you aren't even a fucking felon, you're just a lazy dickhead who realized SOMEONE would foot the bill for your existence
Nobody is hiring :(
Go to a fucking talent agency you fucking nigger, post your job search screen cap, show what you consider a job
Fucking faggot
That still works and you are too shit scared to even try it,
I wonder how many job opportunities youve missed out on because you refuse to answer your phone
Did your dad work at Nintendo?
Your hiring department is worthless.
although I started at the bottom at a dealer and worked my way into operations management before going to an OEM. What won me the job aside from nearly 20 years at a dealer
I’m sure this is some retarded
we refuse to train anybody. You need 20 years in our nitch and be able to be executive lvl manager clout on day one, but our pay range is $80k-160k starting, need 10 years experience in sap, oracle, IOt, Soti, smilier software will not count, gee why can’t we find any one
How do I get into "controls" and what the fuck is it and how would I ever have known about it?
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE FIRM HANDSHAKE!!!!!
clearly sabotage.
People like you were not on Anon Babble before the shutdown.
I've noticed you shills have a new linguistic pattern of very terse, low information replies with drive by insults that don't conform to board culture, and then you say
shut up nigger faggot
then leave.
It's like, they found some new formula they're testing.
But lots of people (like me) don't want to spend years working for a company.
lots of indian high caste immigrants were fine
This isn't true. They're ugly, cheap, greedy, stupid, shallow, dirty, and envious.
Jobs are there to work for someone else.
That person wants to make money out of you.
Zero fuck is given about societal obligations and the ethos of working for something that makes sense and is for the greater good of the people.
It‘s all about „can i use this person to extract money“ .
And at the end of the day every wageslave is a lazy piece of shit that hates his boss because thats the longterm goal the setup of the job structure leads inevitably too.
Yeah I see there's no actual answer it's all just "in theory".
I also love how these Canucks and Germans and Dutch and shit all think the US is the promised land they can move to and just show up and find a job.
then you better spend years killing leftists, jews, and shitskins because they are going to replace you after killing you
Forgot to add that you only get promoted when you‘re tall e.g. 6“ or 1.90m for non-retard units.
I haven‘t seen a single Boss or Team Lead that is average or even midget sized my entire career. They are all tall. I had one exception, which was a woman, but she bottomline inherited from her man that built the company.
Btw. Women only make it to boss either via being daughter, married or some other getting handed it too event. They absolutely do not deserve it and are the worst superiors.
All the tech heads are crazy short btw. all napoleons.
You couldn't be more wrong. I started as a tech at a dealer and worked my way up. I turned the OEM job down when it was introduced to me several times. I had to wait until it was right. I work with several guys now that have 1/4 the dealer experience as me. OJT helped them, clearly helped me too. I just held out until the time was right.
Regarding training, we hire from outside the industry and train the fuck out of people. We don't "release" staff until they are up to par. Every company is not full of dicks. Anon Babble just told you that.
It's often tall guys in the US, but part of it is that elite men are pieces of shit that run society like a fraternity.
Most people and most managers aren't that smart.
Then you are lying about not being able to find someone
This. OP is lazy. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps kiddo.
How do I get into "controls" and what the fuck is it
It is either an offshot of electrical/electronic engineering (4 year degree) or a 2 year instrumentation technician course from community college.
how would I ever have known about it
Most people don't that is why it is in high demand. A lot of boomers retired i nthe controls industry leaving a huge vacuum of senior experiences techs and engineers. This caused the people who actually do the work to get promoted, causing a shortage of people to do anything. And so few people know it is a career option they have trouble filling positions.
Also India is lagging in automation as they have cheapo labor, so unlike IT or software engineering, there is no job pressure from India in this industry. It is a STEM field that is still almost all white.
It can tie into industrial (oil field, automation, manufacturing), Municipal Waterworks and power generation, mining, and HVAC. All need control techs and engineers.
do a trade
Sure
just go do school for it first
No, that’s retarded
wow. why is her hand like 90 years old?
held 20 jobs
That's a fucking redflag. It means you don't last more than a year in any job
I'm going to look into a CC course. Shit, more school. Still, these post-boomer wasteland core infrastructure seem kinda clutch.
Thx btw
This, even job fairs do it now
I fucking love culver's.
Nigger you have ai at your disposal and if that doesn’t work find someone who roughly your age on faceberg write down their job as yours.
Some people are self-employed. I can't imagine being a White man and not seeing this as the preferred path in life. Only one male in my family works for a corporation, my 50 year old uncle who's an engineer and makes like $250k a year without doing any work, but he still has to show up and take care of the tasks assigned to him. That seems like hell to me.
niggers don't even want to be trained for free on the production side. we have a full blown welding training shop for new hires at one location for sure. we offer reimbursement for schooling, even if they start schooling after we hire them. opportunities are there, they just have to take advantage of it.
Management (me) is a different story when it comes to bringing people on. That is a process, and people need vetted. most of the guys we have on the ground don't have mu dealer experience, hell they might have came from another industry altogether. I don't work with 1 bad apple.
I'm out. I need to get rest
Although I wish OP the best, before cashing out and because it is Anon Babble, I am bound by the rules to call him a faggot.
goodnight, faggots
If you are in the US, you can absolutely get in without a degree, but without software, hardware or instrumentation knowhow - or even electrician related work, it will be hard. Integrators are always looking for blood though and the hours are long, shitty and you are always on the road.
No clue what the fuck I'm supposed to do
Clean your room
Become disciplined
Stop masturbating
Stop playing video games all day
Put yourself out there
Grind
Grind
Grind
[spoiler]There's nothing to do at this point besides wait for society to collapse[/spoiler]
I can tell you are a zoomer because this has been the case for coming up on 20 years "now."
I got a CS degree. Sounds like I can study electronics and be fine. I did do an E&M course in college.
I ran all kinds of fucking avionics (for which there's no jobs) in the military. I could run with that.
so it's not just here that there's a problem... I left work a year ago thinking that my professional experience would get me a job right away, even in a lower position. I was looking for a well-paid job for a fucking year
In my first shitty retail job every week there was a dumbfuck parent bringing their loser kid to ask for a job. Retarded idiot parents STILL don’t get that you have to either know someone or play the online application lottery because they never had to
long and shitty hours
If it isn't heavy lifting hard labor and you can sleep 8 hours a night most of the time, it's easy.
I've been here since 9/11 you dick licking retard, I will talk to you in whatever way I wish,
Address my fucking points instead of deciding you can pretend "le must be kike :§"
What are you but a fucking poe, eat my ass gaylord
Nah I'm in my 30s and never needed a job fair m8
My youngest brother is borderline zoomer though and is going to them. Gets told by his hiring coach person to dress nice, bring a physical CV and hand it to people, but none of the people there even accept it
just go through multiple rounds of automated and/or online interviews while we string you along for weeks tee hee
Sounds like hell, hope he gets something soon
The economy is shit and you're not the only one. We're in weirmar usa. Do what you can; At this point just do what ever you can for supporting yourself.
Happy to help. It bugs me people are so unfamiliar with the profession. I have customers who cant even bid on fuckhuge projects because they don't have enough control techs or engineers to do the work if they won the tender.
I can't even find a volunteer position. The places say they aren't accepting applications.
You know it's bad when you can't even go through bullshit interview hell to give your labor away for free
Problem is without God we have no purpose, you can't have anything long in society without faith in God
Nothing is anything
No MAP FAP diaper fag furry
Have you tried becoming a penis inspector?
Anon Babble much less Anon Babble didn't exist in 2001 you fucking retard
Boomers literally would see a “now hiring” sign, walk into the store and ask about the job, fill out a form that was basically a reading and math test, get hired on the spot. This shit literally used to be normal
this might actually work
CS degree will be fine, but just know that you are looked down upon when it comes to hiring because CS degree people are typically a bunch of faggots who don't want to put on boots and hardhats and work long hours on site.
If you think you'll be sitting at a computer all day, you are wrong. You will be playing with shit in real-time that can hurt and kill people.
Eh, maybe. I've done both. With the same pay, I'd take the hard labor because you at least get to be home every night. With field and controls, its very often: Get flown out to bumfuck nowhere USA, be onsite M-F for 12 or so hours. Fly back to hometown on Friday/Saturday and be back on a plane on Monday again. Oh, and you also work a lot of holidays because these are when plants have shutdown periods since the lines aren't running while the actual employees are on vacation.
What playing card goes in your helmet and what t shirt do you wear, newfag
CS degree will be fine
nigger
stupid boomer fuck off and die already - KILL YOURSELF NOW BOOMER
My current situation. Different, but also the ridiculous ineptitude of HR whores crashing businesses with no survivors.
Wife wants to move to new area. Fuck it, let’s go.
Apply for labourer position at construction company. I am vastly overqualified. Whatever. Start at the bottom work your way up.
HR bitch offers me $20/hr. Zero chance. Make it $30 and don’t be slow on the raises once we get rolling. I will walk.
”umm, let me talk to the owner and… oh, yeah he said okay”
Work for a couple months. Jobs are straightforward but their management is absolutely, unbelievably retarded. Practically have a coup. Become de facto supervisor.
We can all see where this is going and I now want $40/hr.
”Um, sorry. We don’t give raises out so soon after hiring…”
That rule is made up, self imposed and can be ignored with no consequences.
”Uh… Well, you’ll need to make an appointment with the owner and discuss it with him.”
Acceptable.
Get an email later. My appointment is over a month away.
No.
Call the owner directly.
We need to talk. Tomorrow.
”I’m busy all day…”
Wake up earlier.
We have a meeting. Goes great.
Offered actual supervisor position.
Due to some kind of business structuring bullshit they need to advertise the position as available and then I need to apply to that position and go through the hiring process again.
Fine, whatever.
Position takes two weeks to appear.
Apply to the position.
No response for a week.
I phone the HR bitch.
”Well we need to give people time to make sure we get all the applicants and then we’ll begin interviewing…”
No.
Call the owner. Explain situation.
”Oh, for fucks sake. I’ll call you back in a couple days.”
Another week passes. Call HR for the final time.
I quit.
”Okay, so your last day is two weeks from today?”
No. It’s right now, bye.
I am starting with another company on Monday next week for $30/hr in a position I am vastly overqualified for…
:/
Go to a temp service, they take anyone, niggers, felons, addicts even assuming you can stay clean long enough to pass a piss test. You don't actually want a job if you don't have one.
There's no shortage of retard jobs for nigger felons. Real jobs for competent white men are FUCKED
what is a poe? is this zelda
Gaylord
not Anon Babble
get out boomer
If I can't have top 10% income I quit
Not even statistically possible, dig a ditch retard
And most of them think it's like that now and don't understand why younger people act like you can just go outside and show up and earn enough money to pay for college.
You were asking about controls earlier. A dual ticket with your CS would go very far with engineering or an instrumentation tech pairing.
A lot of the modern stuff is function block (visual logic) programming, but there are certain applications where you can pretty much go hard with raw code to get really good results. Pic related is honeywells PLC block programming which they also use a version of for their commercial HVAC stuff. In reality these blocks are just compiled into code for device, but its an easier interface to follow your logic for non-programmers.
The other half of controllers is IT work, since everything you have lives on ethenet and you are building servers to exist in your customers network environment, or on a segregated network within theirs. Even things like boilers, pumps and chillers have a web server built into them these days. You work a lot with the customer IT department at certain phases of a project to tie everything together.
I once had to build a full server in a quarantine room for a customer with two IT guys watching and filming me, every step from loading the OS, set up the SQL server, load the proprietary control software, setting up all the static IPs etc. And then demolish it and wipe it clean. They their IT team would replicate this on the other side of the wall past the quarantine, step by step and make it live. Very paranoid about malware and shit.
Well, I was going upside down in airplanes fucking with all kinds of computers, so I think I've got the stuff.
Wrong image, that was the old shit where you still had to decalre variables and shit.
Pic related is more semi-modern.
Nigger, I we're talking MIDDLE CLASS JOBS. You can't get a fucking mortgage on 20 bucks an hour bootstraps clown
I went to one, got hired on and they made me management, now I babysit stupid niggers and recovering addicts all day while making sure they don't fuck up shit too much.
Grab life by the horns and get out there, young un! Quit moping around and blaming others for your choices. You need to grab life from the horns and learn to work hard. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Work....HARD...
skill issue
Missed the sucking and swallowing part
What job / field?
Bye zogbot faggot.
im almost a million in debt to the bank for a 1400 sq ft town house you faggot
I want to generate value via my own hard work, and then split it with this company who also has the right to treat me as a slave and order me around
You guys are fucking pussies if you do this.
We are fed up with the boomers and their kike bullshit.
kys kike
I'm nowhere close to boomer you stupid zoomer fuck. Don't you have some nigger or streamer to go watch?
boomer, we are tired of YOU and your FUCKING KIKES.
go kys
Yeah because everyone can just roll up to a multinational corporation and haggle a deal.
whole new culture
Bwahaha
Government job would have been my suggestion but lol you probably voted to fuck that up too. kek
just learn to cod-ACK!
The point is to work for yourself. Own your own company.
Well the US economy is actually in pretty good shape, and its just that people are being lazy assholes and demanding stuff that they don't have the money for.
There's plenty of jobs everywhere I go.
But most are shitty low paying jobs.
Getting into high paying jobs like tech is impossible for entry level and juniors now.
There's no reason to even wear clean clothes to restaurants and stores anymore, since hiring decisions are made entirely by the women bitch shits that will never even remember seeing you.
Yes, no shit. However, this isn't always possible - or probable in a lot of industries. Now, can anon go and start a pressure washing business, stealing catalytic converters, or cleaning gutters? Yes.
However, you're not going to just jump into system integration for robotics without 1) Lots of capital. 2) Good business acumen with not only other engineers, but also plant managers and 3) Guaranteeing that you can supply said plant managers with the lowest cost option while having them guarantee that they will stick with you for years to come - while also putting food on the table for your employees.
So don't work for places with HR departments. Find a sector that is privately owned by real working men and boomers retiring and start contacting them.
End-of-arm tooling is one of these types of businesses.
There are plenty of jobs if you want to spend 9 hours a day in exchange for $70.
places with HR departments
dog even startups have hr departments in 0.0001 seconds
You forgot elevation through the implementation of bootstraps
There was a guy asking for change at the local Menard and I told him no
Some people got jobs. I'm not handing over money from my $5k/ month pension
I need to buy a second fishing boat
I quit my job today and have 2 interviews tomorrow. Just live in a country that isn't ass and be white. It isn't hard. Also lieon your resume. Hahahahahaaa!
gay bars and dick sucking don’t count, anon
Individualism is a cope for scumbags who want to morally justify pulling up the ladder their predecessors built.
Well put
Because you're in sales and these anons are specialists who refuse to settle for less than what they went to school/ticketed for
True
Nigger
Depends what you see as a problem
So stop trying to work for faggot startups with bullshit tech and digital marketing firms that do fuck all with salesforce and grafana dashboards and KPIs (do you really want to deal with this shit anyway?). Do shit that actually requires and produces real results. Industrial automation is booming.
Hell, even local TV stations will put tell you to contact DEPARTMENT HEADS and not HR.
Trade schools don't have HR departments. Learning to handle commercial refrigerant is next to free and can get you working within a month.
I can count on one hand the amount of times I've had to deal with HR and it was always in IT related roles that had a corporate hierarchy.
I get that HR roasties need to be hung, but it seems like you faggots also want jobs handed to you for doing next to nothing and at a premium salary/wage.
Does claiming you are brown on applications get you attention?