The birth rate in Hungary has collapsed

The birth rate in Hungary has collapsed. Never before have so few children been born. Note that this figure includes gypsies who have much higher birth rates. All this means that there would be virtually no Hungarian children born.

this phenomenon seems to be occurring world-wide, if this trajectory continues, the inverted demographic pyramid will break the services entitlement structures that are presently directing disproportianate amounts of resources towards the aging population, resources that are not their because of low birth rates and bloated governments, in other words, stagantion

are you sure they're not all in Germany? DACH has nearly 100 million, it's like a black hole.

Where do I find the figures for Hungarians and Gypsies separately?

I am waiting for Magyar cigany anon to tell us more about it

Serves you right for guzzling Jew cum

at least Orban is trying to do something about it, other countries aren't

that doesn't make sense

good. I hate europeans that larp as turk and speak an inferior turkic language. Atleast us italians are browns that larp as indo-europeans, indo-europeans that larp as turks are the most shameful thing in existence.

boo hoo nigga, sounds like a whole lot of not my fucking problem. imma just play some metin2 and wait this shit out.

even a commieblock cost 100-120k euros in livable areas

wages are crap, prices are all over the roof

younger women are insufferable nagging shit

buuuut orbitron is giving you moooney if you're having at least 3kids

not surprised

I think we need some more college educated foids and more gibs and tax benefits, that will solve the problem!

Go guzzle Jew cum with your king orban. I’m
Sure your Jew friends will save you of your drink enough Jew cum.

KEK
so they noticed birthrates increasing and put them all on vax. Jews are crazy.

the women with meme-degrees are the worst.

In law school, 80 percent of my classmates are women. It's over.

Just remove women's rights

around the same percentage in pharmacy school, they were boring and unimaginative as hell, perfect goycattle they followed whatever shit they were told to the letter without questioning anything. most of them bought into higher eductaion cuz they sought to become muh "intellectuells"

holy shit she's almost 200 cubic miles.

Its simple OP, Polish feminists have solved the problem! You see, its a lack of abortions!

Yes, you read that right, women don't want to have children, because they couldn't KILL them if they changed their minds, for whatever reason. This is why the birthrates are plummeting.

It's what I have been saying. Only artificial wombs will fix this issue and the White race.

So, maybe germany was right about importing foreigners, it seems even you can't fuck.

the 500 million figure is reserved for kikes btw

At this rate, I'm looking forward to either the Singularity, or total collapse. Either would do. I just don't want the status quo to continue.

If Singularity, we get artificial wombs and life extension. If collapse, we get to enslave women for at least a thousand years.

I would do things to her bibor

Name?

good thing that AI and robots are coming into focus then? very convienient that soon there'll be an army of metal slaves ready to replace the meat ones?

shh turkroach

what if things work better with fewer people messing around? I am totally ok with lower population density

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The difference is that the fat cigány here built his dictatorship on the "at least we will have 2.1 fertility rate and no more brown people" vow and his promise is collapsing with the birthrate.

Have sex.

Yeah, I'm not breeding either.
The women are not trad at all, the healthcare system is non-funcional, the PPP is in the fucking gutter and the dogshit corrupt government that blatantly robbed this shithole blind can ruin my life on a whim with no consequences. I'll probably leave for the woke nigger infested west soon. I'd rather deal with that than this mess. At least my salary would be worth half a shit there.

wood

Too tall people are disgusting with their absurdly shit proportions, tiny heads, giant floppy feets and long alien spaghetti arms.
Men too. All lankets need to do roids to be masculine otherwise they only option is being chubby or fat.

In fact, the only real cornerstone of this whole disgusting system was that it was family-friendly and child-friendly. 100's and 1000's of billions of ft every year have been channelled into this family support system of theirs, obviously taken from people who don't have children because for some reason they can't or don't want to have them. And what happened? Despite all the tax credits and all the subsidies and all the loans, nobody is having babies, but members of the orban mafia are running around in ferraris and buying expensive real estate in new york and miami.

And thats with Hungarian women being gigantic whores that fuck for a beer and some fries.

Meanwhile germans are emigrating to you guys, kek

Note that this figure includes gypsies who have much higher birth rates

Maybe the point of the policies was to suppress the Gypsy birthrate under the assumption that having less people isn't so much of a problem so long as their are even fewer gyspies.

All this means that there would be virtually no Hungarian children born

But what about Magyar children?

Came here to write this.

it's good for a pensioner when you just chill, but building life here for an ordinary fag without connections to the fidesz maffia is a fucking steep uphill battle

stfu Tsiganescu

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while romanian women fuck for a coffee kek

A less dense young population would be fine, but you're on your way for elderly majority and theres only two ways, either import the work force or collapse the pension system and the economy

Check out stretch woman strong over there. You'd feel like a Chihuahua fucking that. I'm so down for it.

Yeah, it's mostly older people past 50 and AfDvoters.

It's all fun and games until they enter Borsod country.

They don't know what it's like here. Don't fall the propaganda!

brilliant public healthcare system takes care of oldfags not live too long

commie years

everyone is pumping out kids

capitalist years

nobody can afford kids

maybe the good guys lost the cold war

fagyar cigany subanimal trash

High birthrates are mostly just about a fast and free healthcare system and your salary having a strong purchasing power. That way even the dumbest losers in the shittiest jobs can breed knowing that their children will have a decent shot in life.
Obsession with meritocracy, tip-only jobs, commission based work culture etc. are creating uncertainty and people not wanting to breed. The lowest people on the totem pole need to be comfortable too for society to function. You don't need to go all the way to communism to achieve that.

I'm not a communist apologist, but for the average Hungarian, the best life in the last 500 years was the consolitated period of the communist period in the 60s and 70s. Those were the decades when, infrastructure was formed, metro, hospitals, bridges, millions moved from mud houses to properly designed urban conditions, free and relatively modern health care, jobs for all, housing for all, a sense of community togetherness.

Too tall people are disgusting with their absurdly shit proportions, tiny heads, giant floppy feets and long alien spaghetti arms.

Men too. All lankets need to do roids to be masculine otherwise they only option is being chubby or fat.

Wish it were easier to do though. It will happen eventually, it's inevitable.

did you judeo magyar cyganys tried to fuck WOMEN???

vax
same in poland

Shit sux. Hopefully we'll continue to not import foreign workers (fat chance) and then housing prices and wages might become reasonable again.

man fucking each other!
unlike in poland

Send Magyarian virgins here, I'll solve that ASAP.

Wow, humans don't like to breed in cages, who would have guessed. No worries, they'll replace hungarians with african blacks cause niggers don't think about their misery.

Just import jeets to close the gap.
There's no need to fix society or gender relationships - this shit require time and money. Import jeets - they'll make you money instead.

I WILL FUCK HUNGRY WOMEN

does anyone not love this woman?

This phenomenon you speak of is literally just feminism and jewry, everyone knows it but nothing ever happens..

I have no idea who she is. To be honest.
Saved from some another thread.

the only way to fix it is to bring back communism

I know this will happen
Because that's the ultimate kike (or rather their master) plan. They already admitted to this in Davos.
True Humans left with no reproductive means other than splurted out of machines, as slaves to the kikes.
Hopefully, as all kike plans, this will backfire.

Judeo magyar cigan lol

MT JMC!

metin2

my nigga is in 2007
good times

any nudes of this demigoddess

I think they put these nudes in my clogged toilet, can you come to take a look bro?

of course. why would anyone have them when the end is so close

who the fuck are you, Monte?

the chart starts in the 50s

Could it be that if it went back just two more decades to the Great Depression natality hitting almost zero would be a recurrent thing and it'd look like a bell distribution? It's the economy, primarily, and coping about everyone's morals having collapsed or some other shit is a red herring.

Montenegro

Imagine a flea barking at you, lmao.

Im a negro

You can come too, 2 for 1 to unclogg my poopshoot

counterintuitively bad times=high birth rates, good times=low birthrates, why? because limited wealth is distributed among lower number of people and times are good, everyone is better off

that's what (((they))) don't want and make a big deal out of it, they want you poor and dependent and that's why they are importing niggers and jeets

muh number must go up ad infinitum

and that's why they want war so badly that it kills as much as it can, so the price of everything goes down and they can grab it for cheap

Foreginers make things worse. The problem with low birth rate is not enough productive people. Shitskins are largely detrimental to development. Hell, brown birth rates should be substracted from the native one, that way we can get a clearer picture of future productivity.

birth rate in Hungayry is now similar to Romania's

standard of living is worse

Hello, my fellow European brothers. What's up?

Get me to Hungaryanland and I will get that birth rate up. I love Hungarians! #1 people in Europe, next to the Scottish of course. I hope Orban gives me a passport

"Imported workforce" is a net negative to the economy.

people are not rats, maybe they are if you have goy/god's chosen concept, but not in reality
all of these experiments are bullshit and answers are always simple, yet simplicity is always hidden but overcomplicating delivering corruption and faux beliefs

inferior turkic language

What do you mean? They are pure 1000% European magyar cyganis

Just go to Poland and grab yourself a second-hand faithful™ Ukie wife.

Governments will continue throwing money into bullshit incentives while the truth is: it has never been in our nature to want children
Humans were having children uniquely for survivalism purpose.

blabla
just remove women's rights and ban them from education and birthrates will climb

Hungarian women are mid, they aren't ugly but they are just mid. Lot's of mid women which are only good for a quick and easy lay and nothing more, that's why the birthrates are plummeting. Nobody wants to breed these average women, but yeah in terms of looks they look better than other countries however they don't excel in that department either.

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human are rats, especially balkanites

It's also a net negative to the women that get raped haha

You being useless losers doesnt mean the country is shit.

people are not rats

agree, judeo magyar cyganys on the other hand aren't "people"

wrong
its just you who is an incel
men want children but can't because women choose career over children

My wife babs.

orbitron shill detected

thanks for your valuable insight that proves my aforementioned theories

Because of pol I am terrified of interacting with a female. You’ve taught me to embrace the art of being an incel. I hope you’re proud of yourselves.

Not me.i have 5 and counting.

hey look better than other countries

but muh conservative, traditionalist country!!!! and muh welfare family politics nooooooooooooooooo

Secondary concern, but yes.

This is due to the low interest rates globally. Asset price inflation has broken the system without wages to keep up. Now there's too much debt and not enough unborn babies to saddle with it.

So that's how Orban increased the birth rates for like 3 years. BASED

I have zero political connections. Have you tried not being a neet and getting a fucking job?

it has nothing to do with debt or money
its just women being too educated and choosing careers over children
ban all girls over 12 from education and the problem is solved

that is, objectively, the reason but it basically means that the birth rate can't be fixed and migration will continue to increase

see

This is happening in every civilised country, Africans and jeets are still reproducing unfortunately

It’s planned. AI will bring a new way of life to earth.
We won’t need this many people soon.
World wide neet bucks, and many other things will come in the next 100 years.

Kek, he doesn't know that only gypsies make kids for a cash handout?
Lmao even the Romanian brain dead government knows this.

i don't see a reason why i can't be fixed
just install a true patriarchy

Lmao the seething unemployed broke ass welfare goblin is here haha.
Living in his raped mom's run down apartment, furiously typing in captchas on his outdated cheap computer to dump his usual copy pasta and contents of his impotent seeth folder.

Deformed autist, too Cowardly to do more than this. Probably a cripple too.

They are into higher education because they crave higher social class and want a rich young tal Chad with the best genetics that's how women operate they don't realize Chad doesn't give a flying fuck about degrees or money when thinking about women.

100% this

What is causing the need for education and a focus on a career growth?
...
The cost of living is too damn high

no, this is objectively wrong, aghanistan has way higher birth rates and they are poor as fuck. chyna has a gdp per capita around Kazakhstan but they have a birth rate lower than japan while kaza is around 3. north korea has a below replacement while bangladesh has higher birth rates than them. the reason is simple: its women rights and women education(they entering the workforce), its really not rocket science(btw, just objectively observing, not an incel)

Birthrates are bad because women waste their most fertile years in uni and memejobs. This isnt HU specific. Nor are our birthrates uniquely low.

it can't be fixed because we live in a democracy, its impossible because women vote etc.

They're into higher education because they wanna be girlboss Kweens!

Imagine justifying niggers.

it has nothing to do with "the cost of living", there are poor as shit countries with low birth rates and there are richer countries with higher birth rates. the only thing where i see a correlation is countries with higher birth rates having inequality in regards to gender roles

Nigger by the time it collapses YOU will be the old guy sharting himself with noone there to clean it up.

romanigger and smergypsy coalition formed again

The prpblem is 100% feminism, Satan.
Everyone who says otherwise is deflecting.

yes, and the worst thing is that you basically don't know the "bottleneck", there will be obviously some having 2+ more children but what is their absolute number? sweden could decline to few hundred thousand, no one knows how far the population will "correct", some countries could genuinly vanish

roma students form the majority of pupil base

roma students form the majority of pupil base

roma students form the majority of pupil base

roma students form the majority of pupil base

yes, north korea has below replacement birth rates and they are poor as shit

tell me how it is my problem, I'd rather kms if I started devolving into a vegetable state

Every county in the world has a cost of living apocalypse since the US dropped rates to 0% 15 years ago. That has led to asset price inflation globally as our inflation was exported through the dollar. Now the only countries with persistently high birthrates are rural societies that are not apart of the global market so women pump out kids to provide labour and to combat early deaths. In stable developing societies there is no other option than working to survive.

roma students form the majority of pupil base

I'll kill a bunch of roasties then do my last 5-10 years in prison with 3 meals per day lmao if they can't provide a pension

Or shift toward automation/increased efficiency through tech.

Kazakhstan has a higher gdp per capita than china and a birth rate of 3 while china is lower than japan and going south korean levels.

yes, only rural gypsies have kids in Cyganorszag!

japans urbanization rate is at 93% btw while china is at 65%, your "farm" example doesnt make work

Hungarian girls are cute, i'd marry

Based. Total cumskin extinction. Btw to speed the process I suggest importing hundrends of thousands of BBC BVLLS and Muslim immigrants (possibly North Africans and Pakistanis).

roma students form the majority of pupil base.

Orban's legacy....beautiful!

wrong and wrong
children cost fuck all, they're cheap as hell, plus you get money by the gov. after birth
its all just women being feminist whores and too highly educated

92% mb wo

Ever their gypsys probably look better than the average serb.

ban women's voting right
why wouldn't it be possible? What are normies going to do about it?

china literally has an urbanization rate of around 65% while japan is at 92% and japan still has higher birth rates than china

their gypsys

RUDE, that's the average Hungarian in 2025.

Ever their gypsys probably look better than the average serb.

while china is lower than japan and going south korean levels.

Don't you think there are enough Chinese? The Chinese government thinks that, that's why they implemented birth restrictions on families. Poondia should follow the example but those fecal animals trying to take over the world via zerg tactic.

>(Gypsies) first appeared in Hungary in the 14th and 15th

>Gypsy groups were even granted privileges, first under King Sigismund(1387-1437) and King Matthias(1458-1490), right up to the beginning of the 18th century.

>Maria Theresa enacted a decree prohibiting the use of the name "Gypsy" and requiring the terms "new peasant" and "new Hungarian" to be used instead.

>She placed restrictions on Gypsy marriages,ordered gypsy children to be taken away from Gypsies, so that they could be raised in hungarian "burgeouis" or "peasant" families.

> Joseph II prohibited use of the Gypsy language in 1783.

Source: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Budapest, 2004
mfa.gov.hu/NR/rdonlyres/05DF7A51-99A5-4BFE-B8A5-210344C02B1A/0/Roma_en.pdf

'In 1989 Gypsy leaders of the time agreed that several people needed to be selected from among the Roma in order to work for the advancement of our people

The most promising was Viktor Orbán, in whom Roma leaders of the time saw the guardian of the ascension of the Gypsy community.

We supported Fidesz [Orban's party] with our votes at elections. [But] our situation slowly became one of despair.

Viktor Orbán, who is no longer proud that his origins place him among us, has not only spit in the face of the Gypsy community, but also in that of several million Hungarians who have been forced into poverty.'

budapestbeacon.com/viktor-orban-spit-face-gypsy-community/

birth rates would have declined even without family planning, was a completly retarded descicion by the ccp.

don't you think there are enough chinese

this isn't my argument, china having a per capita gdp of like 12k and a birth rate of almost 1 going south korean levels rapidly is objectively destructive for chinas future

Much of kazakstan is still rural and not part of industrial society.
China also had forced antinatalism policy?
Kids in the USA cost the equivalent of 30k-40k a year between taxes and services.

B-b-but Tucker Carlson told me heckin' based orban was saving the birth rate???? How can this be happening?

Didn't you read the thread? He saved the birth rate....the gypsy birth rate!

this wasn't my point, they are comparable with china and their birth rates are WAY higher. iraq is like 70% urbanized(north korea is around 63.2% and iraqs birth rates are WAY higher than north korea

I'm pretty sure China doing cloning and gene editing behind the scenes. They only have to keep their current population alive long enough and even if they had a population collapse scare they can just lift restrictions heavily support child birthing families and rebounce in 15-20 years. Meaningless to talk about China, there are too many of them. White people on the other hand are global minority.

I'm talking about high birthrates in civilized countries and maintaining a high standard while achieving that goal. Obviously the wretches who have absolutely nothing will breed like rats.
It's a factor. Banish women back to the kitchen and these would still be in the way of higher birth rates.

iraq is like 71% urbanized now and their birth rates are around 3.1

cloning

they cant clone that many people, lmao. china is fucked
its over for them but the ccp can't admit their mistakes(another issue for an centralized authoritarian goverment).

ive been to budapest and it's stunning. young Hungarians do not know how lucky they are to have a government that doesn't want to destroy itself with immigration and diversity. count yourself lucky

again, standard of living has nothing to do with birth rates, iraq is richer than north korea and has a higher birth rate

you participated in roma pride or jewish musical festival?

meds

Orban is a clown. More news at 11....

No no he fixed the birth rates. By paying gypsies to have kids. It worked for 3 years!

OP is really shilling for infinity jeets

bro be like just give even more money and get rid of taxes for mothers, this will sovle the birth rate!!!!

Check out demographic transition model. Iraqs issue is a displaced population with no services.

You don't get it. The prevailing philosophy among conservative thinkers (within the liberal feminist framework) is to push the peasants into poverty, that way they will increase the birthrates out of desperation. Since we're run by such a government here, all arguments need to address them first.
I'm skipping a few steps by default rejecting that mentality. Keeping a high standard of living AND raising the birthrates needs to be the goal. Total fiscal conservative condemnation is step one.

The point of cloning research is not multiplying the population, but extending life.

Birth rates will remain low and broken if we artifically avoid the natural consequences of low birthrates trough immigration, and the end result will be total genocide and replacement of ethnic europeans, but at least GDP went up and boomers got to be comfy long into retirement.

Birth rates will naturally fix themselves if we let the natural consequences of low birthrates proceed. Its completely fine and natural that our populations correct themselves after the retarded baby boom. And when we start feeling the consequences of low birthrates, we will naturally tend towards a more traditional old-school family structure which requires higher birth rates. Its going to suck for all the old baby boomer retirees in the short term, but they absolutely deserves it for turing western civ into the shitshow it is now.

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poverty wont increase the birth rate tho, that is the issue. china has a lower birth rate than developed countries
what does that have to do with iraqs urbanization rates

I see more and more homeless whites and brown asian import workers

Probably feminism op.

Most woman drastically overvalue themselves.
Come on a journey now. Say the woman in the picture was a college athlete. Do you think she'll date the college athlete male or the older more established former college athlete male?

Nope.

She wants the top athlete in the country.

They've priced themselves out of the dating market. The men they want don't exist in big enough numbers to even accommodate 10% of what the single woman in the west want.

again, explain how china has such an extremly low birth rate despite having an urbanization rate of 66%

GO Cyganorsag!

Here come the Shitmerican NGO mouthpieces seething about Hungary again.

Seeing the light in my mother's eyes when I visit her, that beam of pride, is the best. But you wouldn't know, now would you.

poverty wont increase the birth rate tho, that is the issue. china has a lower birth rate than developed countries

Tell that to the conservative thinktanks who keep pushing that shit. Or at least they use that as an excuse to gut the government.
Either way, a country is worse off if it's poorer.

he believes prison has anything else to offer but daily torture by the time social security has been all but vanished

He is slovak

How do I get an elf gf?

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Metin2

aww geez dude you really don't have to dredge up childhood memories like that

One thing I am sure of: its not the vax.

Grim. Especially when you know that data is heavily affected by gyps having 3 4 5 kids.
Thank you Fidesz for your gypsy breeding programs, thank you Fidesz for your efforts making gyps protected class.

I hope Orban gives me a passport

Are you a shitskin? Otherwise don't even dream about it!
Orbán poses as based but at the same time we are now overflown with pajeets. I don't even understand where they came from but the whole area which was a nice white suburb just 2 years ago is flooded with pajeets.

It only happens where women work. That isn't everywhere yet

Are you Vietnamese? Are you loaded Arabian? Are you ready to work manual labour for 400 bucks a month? No? Then forget it.
Otherwise you are free to move here and buy property.

All that selfless sacrefice from your parents, and look at you: spamming pictures of gysies with better employment records than yours. Beyond embarrasing.

Min wage is 850 bucks and only the biggest losers have that. Stop lying and get a job.

serious take: this further affirms that it's not the political party in power that will raise your birth rate and preserve the family unit. Kike owned neo cons like Orban and their theatrics wont solve anything. Those are hijacked movements that are meant for people to gather around and vote for, aka controlled opposition that keep the countries in question kiked.

Once upon a time in europe and usa men went to women's fathers to ask for their hand in marriage. But modern Kikeruope and JewSA cultures that the opposite of that and opposite of islam. they are anti-islamic in fact, and mostly godless and jewish. Those cultures cannot sustain themselves long term because they cannot reproduce. Something of a sucidal culture that kills itself due to submition to human desire instead of submission to the deen. this anti-islamic modern culture of Kikerope and JewSA are anti-family. So change can only happen with change in culture and a change in people's hearts.

Personal Freedom and the like are nonsense """values""". instead of faulting the economic system or faulting politics, fault the lack of haya in society and the embrace of fahisha. This is the fault of nations that are without iman and full of zina and kufur. and the fault of people accepting the sponsored fahisha and the fault of the governments of kufur who makes it hard for people to practice their deen and makes it easy for people to indulge in maʻsiya and it's mujahra.

fuck you and fuck islam!
fuck jews and their torah 2!
just kill each other already!

Migrants from outside the EU are a net negative.

Stop lying

You just said that while lying. Hungary is poverty central now and the roads are 3rd world. Maybe you should try to see what the world looks like outside our borders.

get a job

Are you Projecting manager or what? None of the rich people work and you think you are valuable for busting your ass off for a used Suzuki.
I don't have to work. I got money and when I don't I self employ myself.

Vietnamese shitters are not getting 850 in this country and half of the working class doesn't get that much either.

Real shame because most Hungarian girls I've met are really hot.

They're also the best escorts in London.

They're also the best escorts in London.

Power of Fidesz. Now we can compete with romania in whore exporting.

I was in Budapest last year and there was a rainbow flag hanging out of every second window felt like I was in fag capital of the world so this doesn't surprise me at all.

typical godless judeo-boomer response. nothing in the original post was addressed. just an immediate emotional reaction

Did the smerg just reply to me? Don't you ever reply to me again you dirty subhuman. I'm not gonna unblock you.

we need to have more children in the next generation to keep the ponzi scheme alive

>we need to have even more children in the next generation to keep the ponzi scheme alive

eventually the pyramide schemes starts to collapse

oy very how could this happen

Romanian whores are gross and damright unprofessional. Real money grabbers. And most have massive moles on their faces and bodies.

Hungarian girls are beautiful, friendly and really know how to give good service.

end of socialism literally fucked up birth rates

Wow, I didn't expect this.

Noy my problem
I just want to fuck that one specific girl at my work in the ass and coom inside it a fat load and I'm content with life
Maybe she'll beg for more if that were to happen
As for the rest who fucking cares
It's outside my control anyway

if most men were in agreement it would be that easy. the problem is simping is trained into little boys at the earliest age possible from every media source. the parts of easily accessible culture that don't promote simping promote sexual competition for women which is just simping in disguise.

lying

HU min wage is ~300k HUF. 1 Dollar is about 350 HUF. 300000/350=857.

outside of HU

Been many times, part of my JOB. HU mogs 80% of the world.

drivel about job

So you ARE unemployed. I smelled a neet's sourness.

project manager

Good example. Janitor is good too, so is cashier or technician or anything else. Of course you are fucking poor if you dont work - you are supposed to be and deserve to be.

noone gets 850

True, the workers in the factory I work for far more. Almost noone actually works for min wage, including blue collar.

itt: every single poster moaning about Hungary is a NEET

Telling.

Nowhere survives female autonomy. Anything less than Afghanistan and you go extinct. It's unfortunate that women are naturally inclined this way without male authority.

We bred with them long ago; many of of our names have elf in them. Alfred, "Elf friend" etc.

Microsoft?

Just kill old people