The Book of Mormon

Satan doesn't want to oppress you

Where does this guy get his read of things? That is the opposite of true.

Correct, because you didn't debunk any of it last thread.

Joseph smith was a mason

I assume you denounce George Washington, Ben franklin, Andrew Jackson and any of their creations as well?

They reject the trinity.

I think I talked about that one enough. Read the thread sometime when you get the chance.

He gave us willpower and capabilities for a reason.

Our agency is what makes us the "gods" of "Ye are gods"

Correct. The American experiment has failed. Jews subvert democracy too easily. They caused the French revolution because Kings don't put up with their bullshit

kicked out of 109 countries and 1100 city states

Make a thread

What did he do in the Garden of Eden? He told Eve that God was lying to them, that God didn't want them to eat the fruit because if they did they would become "as gods". Suspiciously similar to what Mormons believe, don't you think? The Antichrist isn't going to be a moustache twirling supervillain, he's going to give you everything you ask for. You don't get people to take the mark of the beast by oppressing them, you make them want to take it because you're such an awesome guy.

our agency is what makes us Gods

Thank you for directly stating what Satanists and freemasons believe. They worship lucifer who gave humans free will.

Yeah bro we worship Satan like freemasons

and our founder was a freemason

but we are Christian guys, trust us!!!

Satan is the one who has malice towards mankind and wants to bind us to sin
God wants us to use our agency to obey his commands
Otherwise we would be robots as Satan would have us be

Nice inversion of reality retard. Free will is a curse in the Bible.

Satan was quite literally the one to create your religion

Satan is the one who has malice towards mankind and wants to bind us to sin

You are in sin if you aren't trusting in the blood sacrifice God performed in the flesh as Jesus Christ to redeem you of your sins. That is the singular thing that saves you. If Satan manages to subvert your belief on salvation from that, you're in sin and screwed.

Read Paradise Lost

Belief requires obedience

Their underwear has the masonic symbolism on it

Belief is belief. Nice attempt at conflating works with salvation though.

I do no such thing
Faith without works is a dead faith
You should address this point

My singles ward is gay af, sausage fest. Otherwise the church has been good to me. And the apologists have answered all my questions. And sometimes I prefer Maxwell or Nibley over the modern rhetoric.

What must I do to be saved, Jesus was asked.

He replied "murder me"

Here's something our poor Mormon friend should try to absorb so he can break free from the Satanic bullshit that ensnares him:
Deuteronomy 18:20:

But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.

Ezekiel 13:9:

My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.

Jeremiah 14:14:

Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.

Matthew 24:24:

For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

2 Peter 2:1:

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15:

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

Mind you, this is from the same scripture that Joseph Smith claims to believe and confirm in his own false bible. God has not once uttered the coming of such a man in anywhere of The Bible, and therefore he is one of Satan's flock - a false prophet that has come to lead people astray with heresy and lies.

That's funny because those are the exact verses that got people to condemn the prophets like Jeremiah. How exactly then would you know a real prophet from a fake one? If God sends you a genuine prophet youre more likely to kill him than believe him, because youre too hung up on dogma than on faith. The exact issue with the Pharisses

Ill also point out that if youre wrong you risk dooming our people for centuries or millenia

An entire group of people wouldn't be doomed for centuries or a millennia unless God willed it, in which case, you cant fight against God's will.

possibly having forsaken the lifeline that God offered because you were too paranoid about the anti-christ.

How would I forsake anything my beloved strawman? We are not to overturn governments. ALL governmental bodies are ordained by God Himself, that includes traitorous Satanic governments like the ones we have right now and the eventual Antichrist rulership. Unjust rulers are put in place to punish nations. You accept the punishment, ask God for mercy and God Himself will arrange for the leadership to be changed when he decides. God uses unrighteous people to carry our judgment. Just as the unrighteous invaders are invading our countries, God will arrange for those people to be disposed of once they've outlived their usefulness. I wont be forsaking the lifeline because I would never rebel against ANY government. When these invaders are dealt with I will thank the leader, even if he is the Antichrist, for taking caring of the fleshy issue that was inflicted upon my country (and thank God for arranging it), but I would never EVER worship the leader as God or forsake my faith in Christ because a leader asked me to. So I would reap the fleshy benefits such a leader would have to offer, but the second he asks me to forsake my faith in God's blood sacrifice as redemption for my sins I'd ask for directions to the nearest guillotine.

Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Because God spoke to Jeremiah himself and the written word still stands of saying nothing of "a farmer's son yadda yadda yadda from far off lands of trees and soil". Keep in mind that being bestowed prophecies and receiving the title of prophet doesn't mean invulnerability. Everything moves according to God's threads, even if it means a just man must get struck down. Pic related.

Forgot pic, whoops

how does the meaning of these symbols differ between mormonism and freemasonry

An entire group of people wouldn't be doomed for centuries or a millennia unless God willed it

Not according to scripture. Peoples and nations are put to tests and either pass or fail, but God isnt forcing their hand. They very much have to make a decision. We have failed and are suffering for it. Inaction will lead us to further failure.

We are not to overturn governments. ALL governmental bodies are ordained by God Himself, that includes traitorous Satanic governments like the ones we have right now

This is foolish. Again, God doesn't just smite unjust leaders with a meteor. He gets a righteous faction willing to fight to do it. I'm not sure what you expect to happen.

I would never EVER worship the leader as God or forsake my faith in Christ because a leader asked me to

And thats wise, conversion by the sword tends to be a red flag. If we get a white nationalist "leader" that does that I won't be following him.

Because God spoke to Jeremiah himself

Well yeah anon but no one believed him, they claimed he was a false prophet specifically because of the section of Deuteronomy you posted. Same thing happened to Christ. Even so, God is a living God, I dont see why you would believe that "welp thats it no more interacting with humans theyre on their own now lol". Every generation after a significant prophet says that and theyre always wrong.

An entire group of people wouldn't be doomed for centuries or a millennia unless God willed it, in which case, you cant fight against God's will.

Curse of Ham? Curse of Cain?

Joseph Smith was infallible.

I see what you're saying, and I'm inclined to agree with the coming, past(after the Biblical timeline)/present/future, of more genuine prophets. However, as it concerns Joseph Smith, you would think that should he be genuine, his claims of "The US is God's chosen country, we can become Gods, I'm going to make a 3rd book to add onto the Bible, etc." would attract consideration for an all seeing God to go "Yeah, I'll throw in a word about this guy to vouch for him, because it is pretty huge what he's going to say". But he didn't, because everything Joseph Smith went on to preach and spread is basically antithetical to everything The Bible said. In concerns to figures like Muhammed and Joseph Smith, their bullshit always clashes with The Bible, despite their attempts to entwine it to their own peddling nonsense. These are the false prophets (not the only ones) that we were warned about.

Prophets being called outside of traditional religion is baked into the NT with Paul seeing a vision of Jesus

Peoples and nations are put to tests and either pass or fail, but God isnt forcing their hand.

The outcomes are God's judgment. Nations are judged for their sins. Our Western countries are being flooded with invaders because God is punishing us for taking him for granted. Your response to this is to fight for your country, you have no interest in God. "Inaction" towards your country being overrun by invaders is not a sin. You're frustrated and want to use your frustration as a justification for rebellion. You're seeking every possible excuse to not ask God for mercy.

This is foolish. Again, God doesn't just smite unjust leaders with a meteor. He gets a righteous faction willing to fight to do it. I'm not sure what you expect to happen.

Jesus did not try to usurp the Roman government. He allowed them to execute him and disavowed his apostles when they tried to retaliate against the soldiers. "It is finished", God's work is complete, we have nothing to add it. All we can do is tell people about the gospel, that is to trust in the blood sacrifice God performed in the flesh as Jesus Christ to redeem us of our sins, they can accept it or not, that is all we are to do. .

He gets a righteous faction willing to fight to do it.

Or an unrighteous faction. If a faction does not believe the only way to be saved is to trust in the blood sacrifice God performed in the flesh as Jesus Christ to redeem them of their sins, it is impossible for them to be righteous.

Curse of Ham? Curse of Cain?

These people committed sins and God punished them for it. Our Western nations, which God blessed greatly, have forsaken God and now God is punishing us by flooding us with invaders. What is your argument? Yes, God punishes people for sinning?

Joseph Smith was infallible.

"Joseph Smith decides if you will be granted the Kingdom of Heaven". Yikes.

As long as mormons make white people I don't give a shit what banana religion they follow

Mormons are Freemason Christians. His brother was named "Hyram" aka HIRAM, the legendary masonic builder of Solomon's temple.

They run the intel agencies and persecute normal Christians.

They run the intel agencies and persecute normal Christians.

Any worse than what Protestants and Catholics do to each other?

intel agencies

if they can replace the Jews in those agencies it would be a blessing

You can have the spirit of prophecy and any other gifts without following Jesus Christ.

Romans 11:29-32

29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

30For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

32For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

There are false prophets and false christs and false gods, this doesn't mean they do not have God given gifts...no, they must have these God given gifts to become false in the first place. The difference is we must come to know Jesus Christ as the measuring stick and wait for the fruit thereof to discern true from false. Witches, wizardry, sorcerers, soothsayers, mediums, psychics, palm readers, etc --- they have God given gifts, but they are not leveraged in the service of Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit or the Father of All. These things must exist or there is no path of redemption through free will of belief in Jesus Christ and identifying as such.

QUICK POST MORE BIBLE VERSUS TO COVER UP.

HMMMMMMMMMM

Joseph Smith was infallible.

Anon, Joseph Smith died a dog's death and not in a position that you can really say was in the way of martyrdom. The real disciples of God died in spreading his word, but Joseph Smith died a cornered animal after trying to silence a newspaper that spoke against his bullshit.

IN A FUCKING COUNTRY THAT AFFORDS YOU THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE YOUR RELIGION HE WAS MURDERED BY POLISH NIGGERS.

I mean maybe. God makes decisions in real time and our input does come into consideration.

Your response to this is to fight for your country, you have no interest in God

Rude. You could make the same argument for literally any man of any nation at any time. I'm not a determinist. I dont think God put us on a carnival ride to experience life on a set of rails.

Jesus did not try to usurp the Roman government.

That was never his intention, he wasnt a political leader. Joshua did usurp the Canaanites. He didnt do by sitting around waiting for God to smite his enemies. He did it through leadership and strength of arms- with the blessing of God. When he didnt seek God's blessing jt didnt work. When he did seek blessing it did- but he still had to go out and do it.

He allowed them to execute him

Jews executed him, Pilate washed his hands.

and disavowed his apostles when they tried to retaliate against the soldiers.

Because that wasnt what he was sent to do. He wasnt a political leader.

"It is finished", God's work is complete

That's a mighty big assumption to make off that phrase. The prophesy was complete, Jesus's life's work was finished. He didnt say "God is finished".

Or an unrighteous faction

Right. So you agree. We cant expect God to do all the work.

and these fucking murderers were NEVER held in trial.
COPE.

mor(m)ons are retatded and utah is shit. do not evwn think about moving there

A dog mauled by other dogs. A fitting end. I could see giving some leeway for the chain of events for destroying the printing press speaking out against him if they were falsehoods, but they were pretty much on point kek

thats the biggest fucking cope i ever READ
you would fight tooth and nail to got to your church of catholic satanic jewish influence.
but if a man spreads the good word and may ruin your money laundering scheme then all of a sudden he isnt afforded rights.
those polish were immigrants and he had 1st amendment protection.
end of day he died. so that also is unjust.
1 crime per 1 crime. just cause he "messed up a printing press" does not nullify criminality of a mob of retards.

The Polish are always fucking things up....

They said the same things about the Apostles when they died inglorious deaths

So how would you know if one, claiming to be in the service of Christ, was legitimate or not?

Pic related is a good reason why all these secret societies will fail in the end. Not because of us, but because of themselves. They will never stop because they operate in secret, in fear, in darkness. It's simple really, we are told to spread the Gospel and the name of Jesus Christ, but these secret societies hide everything they do and they hide things behind OATHS. Imagine having the best news you've ever been given and claiming you have this truth and then hiding it away in secret for yourself and others behind OATHS? Operating in fear of exposure of your awesome truth, that's just bad fruit. Millions of people take OATHS to be a part of this system, if they came to know Jesus Christ they wouldn't enter in to these things in the first place, but alas it's not our place to do God's work with these people; Lest we are calling God a liar as if we could do better than He can at sorting things out.

WAHHHHH HE CANT TEACH JESUS IN AMERICA IF ITS NOT UNDER THE CATHOLIC UMBRELLA.

yeah i dont care for your bullshit semantics. he had rights and he was murdered. no one was held accountable. it was propagandized polish catholic retards influenced by the pope to do this.
FUCK YOU typical catholic fags murder shit in the name of god DEUS VULT
CANT STOP WINNING. CHRIST IS KANG

with the blessing of God. When he didnt seek God's blessing jt didnt work. When he did seek blessing it did- but he still had to go out and do it.

Our nations would need to collectively trust in God's blood sacrifice as redemption for our sins for such mercy to be granted, otherwise the elimination of the invaders would just be used to push us into an alluring deception with nationalism as the carrot on a stick.

He didnt say "God is finished".

What are you getting at? You're starting to sound like you want to segway into the Satanic belief that we establish God's kingdom. Jesus Christ is the one who establishes the kingdom when he takes down the Antichrist.

Right. So you agree. We cant expect God to do all the work.

God already has done all the work. We just have faith in his blood sacrifice as redemption for our sins and spread the gospel. Whatever world events transpire are judgments from God.

You know, the normal NPC mormons dont understand this shit, and i bet you were never confronted over your relgious beliefs and the TRUTH of what happened.

One of the things I love about Mormonism is their focus on genealogy without being schizos about it

Their deaths, while pretty brutal, were immaterial in the end, for what is a moment's pain on the material plane to an eternity in paradise with the Lord? Point is, they died in spreading the word and Joseph Smith died like a bitch trying to shoot his peashooter and running away like a teenaged girl about to be sodomized.

So true! It's why OP won't debate Mormonism being a Satanic Freemason sect ran by the Jews.
Correct the fake and gay Freemason vs Jesuit rivalry is backed by Jews on both sides. Jesuits run Freemasonry anyways, but Freemasons don't know it.

Checked.

1 Timothy 1:4

“Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.”

God is the only being that can know our hearts. The adversary can only contend with outward expression, not an indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Luke 2:19

“But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.”

If Mary had expressed any of her discernments, teachings or other wisdom she learned through the Spirit of God outwardly, Jesus Christ wouldn't have been born. The same lesson holds for us, we can pray from a sincere heart for guidance and discernment about specific things in the perfect timing and will of God. We can be shown things that never left our hearts and this the best way to move in Truth.

people talking about antichrist

The "Antichrist" is a term made to talk about the roman emperors. Amazing how people still think the antichrist is this future super powerful and satanic world leader. The Book of Revelation talks about what the christians were living during the days of John of Patmos, not about some crazy future.

These people committed sins and God punished them for it. Our Western nations, which God blessed greatly, have forsaken God and now God is punishing us by flooding us with invaders. What is your argument? Yes, God punishes people for sinning?

That the Book of Mormon is designed to restore those descended of cursed generations to the Gospel

a dog's death

Go to hell

Jesus, even while nailed to a cross hands and feet, gave blessings upon a fellow crucified person beside him and offered him paradise. Joseph Smith just screeched and ran away when facing his doom like some kind of hysterical soccer mom. It's just embarrassing that we're supposed to look at this guy and say, "Yeah, you definitely should be the one to gatekeep Heaven for us". No dignity for the wicked and false preachers, as it's been and as it will be.

Idk trying to become president to nationalize the banks is pretty based anon. He was doing considerable work to evangelize the faith, so not sure where youre coming from there. And let's be real, getting flayed alive while fleeing a mob of jeets isnt a glorious death. Its a dogs death in the literal sense.

Our nations would need to collectively trust in God's blood sacrifice

So then let's do that...

What are you getting at?

Youre insinuation that the phrase 'it is finished' means God's work is done, which I don't agree with. I dont think he kicked his divine feet up on a cosmic lazy boy and said "welp thats it nothing else to do". Hes a living, active God. As I said before, if I'm wrong, then we dont have anything to worry about. Its all good. If youre wrong we are dooming not only ourselves but our children as well. That's not acceptable.

Jesus Christ wouldn't have been born. The same lesson holds for us, we can pray from a sincere heart for guidance and discernment about specific things in the perfect timing and will of God

That's literally how Mormonism started, Joe Smith praying for guidance with a sincere heart

No dignity for the wicked and false preachers, as it's been and as it will be.

Amen. Burn.

muh Jesus in America

At the end of the day, every religion has its own dumb beliefs.
But Mormons have a healthy growing population, a strong sense of community, belief in science and a capacity to be peaceful.
For those reasons alone, it is already better than Isl*m imo.

I’m also fascinated by the Amish people.

YOU WILL NEVER BE THE INHERITORS OF THE GOLDEN PLATES

He is as we speak, you don't have to fear on that account.

I think you'll like this if you missed it. Hey OP respond to

see
Read the whole thread

The Book of Mormon warns of secret combinations
You should read it and absorb its talking points

doesn't debunk the image

says read the book

lmao. OP exposed.

Actually
Joseph Smith is confirmed to be saved
churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138?lang=eng

Bunk is bunk regardless of refutation
Truth is truth regardless of how confounded you choose to be
You should read the Book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price, it expands on how evil people were manipulated into forming evil secret combinations very early on

Right up your alley

Interesting that such warnings are in there, because Mormonism literally practices secret handshakes, don't they? Freemasons also practice secret handshakes.

I judge a religion based on what its followers do, rather than read the scriptures.
And so far, Mormons and are top tier in my estimation.

Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith being Freemasons is "bunk"!

Fucking retard your own resources admit they were both Freemasons and early practices mirrored Freemason rituals.

YOU WILL NEVER BE A SMITH. YOU WILL NEVER BE A PIONEER YOU NEVER FOUND SHIT YOU ARE NOT THE DESCENDENTS OF THEM YOU WILL INHERIT YOUR DIRT AND WHAT YOUR POPE TELLS YOU
AS YOUR ELDERS DIE AND LEAVE THE WORLD TO YOU, YOU WILL NOT BE THE INHERITORS OF OUR WISDOM LOL.
YOU WILL NEVER BE A MORMON, AND IM OK WITH THAT.

Mormons believe Jesus ascended to become a God and they can too (just as satanists/freemasons believe). Hubris to believe you are better than a man/God.

I'm not a Mormon but this is a pretty standard occult belief. A man was a baby and grew to be a man. It is not "believing himself to be greater than a man/God", but rather that he has the potential to one day be so.
I don't find that any more silly than an idea of heaven you just sit around in for all eternity or the idea of a infinite reincarnation loop.

I judge a religion based on what its followers do, rather than read the scriptures.

That works for organizations but scriptures themselves are suppressed gems in every sect

Jim Bridger > Brigham Young > cucked federal government.

The Mormons might have fought the federal government, but Bridger told them both to fuck off.

Check this link from OP's on faggot cult church. It's archived and I'll mirror it if you guys delete it, OP.
youtube.com/watch?v=hSNjnkwJgCg

Dudes heard of a guy named "bringem young" and thought he was good LMAO. Didn't he massacre American settlers or something?

read the book

The Expositor was only censored by the government because it was libelous, which is a crime

Idk trying to become president to nationalize the banks is pretty based anon.

Why would this matter in a Theological framework? It's materialism, nothing to do with spirituality befitting a "prophet".

He was doing considerable work to evangelize the faith, so not sure where youre coming from there

Evangelize a Satanic cult, wonderful.

And let's be real, getting flayed alive while fleeing a mob of jeets isnt a glorious death. Its a dogs death in the literal sense.

You're conflating "glorious" with "glamorous". I already said it was brutal, but they kept to the word and there's no higher honor than to do that, even when faced with your own demise.

KEK great comment

Classic Mormonism is just gnosticism with extra steps... on salvia.

No you can lick my asshole if you are going to sell me a religion while refusing to engage in basic discussion.

newspaper publishes printings on Joseph Smith

Joseph Smith orders the destruction of a printing press

Smith gets arrested for treason and killed by a lynch mob

Sounds about right to me. Fuck that faggot desecrating the constitution while calling himself a Christian.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauvoo_Expositor

The more you talk the more obvious you are a Satanist pretending to be a Christian.

ask your ancestors bout dem Epstein files bucko.

i still dont unserstand the mormon scam what do they do theyre so sketchy almost like jews

I'm not the gross one though

When Jesus Christ died, the temple veil was torn in two which signifies that there is to be no more a barrier, a person, a temple, a building or any other instrument between His believers and Him, for He did the work and experienced every facet of our human flaws without EVER sinning --- even when He was on the cross dying and died --- Jesus Christ NEVER had sin enter His heart. To say that a physical place is required to have a relationship with Jesus Christ is NOT Biblical and the same children of the father of lies would have you forget your inheritance. Denying the work of the Holy Spirit by attempting to define it as needing a physical place or thing is NOT Biblical.

Matthew 12:31

“Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.”

Jesus Christ never told us we would be needing anymore testaments of Him, the NT is adequate and the Holy Spirit is our compass. To say otherwise is calling Jesus Christ a liar.

I haven’t got time to be reading religious hodge podge. Here’s my review of Mormons so far

God loving and fearing

peaceful

no science denialism

preach through peace rather than violence

familial relationships given importance

Why do people hate then again? Because they’re not allowed to practise pre marital sex? That’s a core tenet in so many religions.

They are literally Jews. See and Joseph Smith was a Freemason, and Freemasons worship Satan like Jews. It's the enlightenment of gnosticism with an extra sprinkling of "so that means you need to worship Satan."

REAL MORMONS ARE TOO NICE TO BRAG TO YO FACE ON HOW UGLY YO MAMA IS.

When Jesus Christ died, the temple veil was torn in two which signifies that there is to be no more a barrier, a person, a temple, a building or any other instrument between His believers and Him, for He did the work and experienced every facet of our human flaws without EVER sinning --- even when He was on the cross dying and died --- Jesus Christ NEVER had sin enter His heart.

To say that a physical place is required to have a relationship with Jesus Christ is NOT Biblical and the same children of the father of lies would have you forget your inheritance.

Show people who disagree with you Alma 32 and they will be confounded

Denying the work of the Holy Spirit by attempting to define it as needing a physical place or thing is NOT Biblical.

Nowhere is this more clearly exposited than the Book of Mormon churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/32?lang=eng

Surface level: To collect shekels
Real purpose: To break people from the actual word of God and confuse them and brainwash them with heretical nonsense. Unfortunately, you can see how effective it's been from this thread alone. It's some sinister shit.

God loving and fearing

Except for the Freemasonry and rejection of Christian tenets

peaceful

Ecxept for Joseph Smith ordering the destruction of a printing press

no science denialism

Unless you write mean words

preach through peace rather than violence

Except for running the intel agencies and gangstalking/harassing/murdering real Christians

familial relationships given importance

Except for church leaders being given priority over polygamy at the expense of their citizens

hodge podge

Book of Mormon does take time to understand because it is such a complex mixture of ancient sources and retrospective commentary
You should read churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng one chapter will explain all

Hey OP want to talk about Joseph Smith?

Smith, leader of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, had a practice of secretly marrying his followers, including other men's wives. Smith is estimated to have married nearly fifty wives. While promoting polygamy in private, Smith publicly denied the practice of polygamy. In response, a handful of high-ranking church leaders denounced Smith as a fallen prophet, founded a reformed church, and announced plans to publish a newspaper—acts that resulted in their excommunication from Smith's church. Based on their testimony, Smith was indicted on state criminal charges of perjury and "fornication and adultery".

You are the harasser here.

everyone beside papist pagan heretics reject the trinity

nooo I'm a victim

YOU ARE 100% JEWISH

Smith publicly denied the practice of polygamy.

And he only had children by one wife.
And the Book of Mormon condemns David and Solomon for having too many wives.

Yup, except, patrilineally. Repent and believe the Gospel.

americans love the jews. think about it. in no other country have they been able to succeed this hard. americans are even circumcising. kek

Joseph smith sleeps around and secretly marries other followers' wives (many such cases in cults)

Nauvoo expositor publishes articles exposing him for polygamy (adultery) and polytheism ("you can become a god")

Joseph Smith (mayor) orders the destruction of the printing press

Town council (including smith) charged with inciting a riot

Smith declares martial law and mobilized the militia

State governor ford raised a militia looking for Smith, who fled the state

They tricked Smith into submitting to law enforcement

FALSELY DECLARING MARTIAL LAW IS TREASON

put in a jail with only 7 men

killed by lynch mob

*spit* fuck this kike faggot.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauvoo_Expositor

I bet your church doesn't teach this story, huh?

Joseph Smith said Martin Luther's German Bible was the most faithful translation before his own

The physical world and theological world are intrinsically intertwined, theyre both part of a greater whole. The physical health of a nation is directly tied to the spiritual health of a nation. Having a nation built on usury has not done well for us or our souls.

satanic

You keep saying that but I've yet to see anything back it up. I pointed this out in the last thread too- what kind of father doesn't want his children to surpass him? Are you Saturnian?

To say that a physical place is required to have a relationship with Jesus Christ is NOT Biblical
I didnt say that. You could do it naked in a cave. That said, having a holy place of worship is very much biblical

Jesus Christ never told us we would be needing anymore testaments of Him

Jesus didnt write the gospels, nor did he say "ok thats it no more words from God, he's going to be silent from now on"

Ecxept for Joseph Smith ordering the destruction of a printing press

Pretty based desu

Joseph Smith was right in light of the fact that the state of Illinois refused
Militias are protected in the 2nd amendment

my translation of made up jewish stories is better!

Misuse of militias for the purposes of extinguishing the 1st amendment is TREASON. Ford should have executed him personally.

And you get a gold star for that Germany now come on don't start another fight against God

Modern "Jews" are not Israelites or of the tribe of Judah.

There are hundreds such examples of high ranking people from the major world religions doing even more horrible stuff.
So why does Mormonism have to be judged by the same standards?

Mormonism doesn’t preach polygamy. It doesn’t ask you to give them money. And they surely don’t intel agencies. Wtf are you on about?

Ford should have executed him personally.

And the state of Illinois would have had punishment poured out on it like unto Missouri

They fought the atheist bolsheviks, anon. Mormons fought with them.

The whole temple system of the Mormons is tantamount to being against Christ. The endowments, the sealings, the genealogies for baptism of the dead, the need for physical underwear to do what Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost cannot. This is why the Mormons are deceived.

Persecution is sin

Misuse of militias for the purposes of extinguishing the 1st amendment is TREASON.

I agree that justice was done a disservice when those murderous mobs were allowed to go free

Read Alma 32 it agrees with you.

The federal government declared war on the Mormons after the Civil War, so they were at war with each other. You fags wanna argue about religion like glowfags want people to do on this forum... I wanna sperg out about badass old west history shit, because I find the old west inspiring to the spirit of white people. We are not the same.

Matthew 6:24:

No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be loved to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”

So, no, they're not exactly compatible when bringing the topic of "banking" into the foray. Not if you believe in the word of Jesus Christ.

You keep saying that but I've yet to see anything back it up. I pointed this out in the last thread too- what kind of father doesn't want his children to surpass him? Are you Saturnian?

Well, I already gave you a contradiction, but I can point you to my posts from the last thread:
There's no reconciling the Book of Mormon with The Bible, because The Book of Mormon spits on the core tenets of The Bible so much, including the blathering of hubris that is "Becoming Gods"

Jesus said he was the Beginning and the End

if you listen to the Gospel it becomes very clear that all other writings are superfluous

youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

Ye are gods

NIV is a paraphrase

you worship jews kek
get out of my face

They didnt persecute the Mormons. Self-defense is not a sin. Holy Wars are the opposite of sin.

How is that any different than any other type of church or cathedral?

Religious persecution is a sin

immediately ignores his prophet committing treason and blames the us government

HAH you are a cult!
Shut up Satanic gnostic faggot.

Wait wtf. Just found out that Mormons have to pay fucking 10% of their income to the Church.
A true religion wouldn’t guard ceremonies and beliefs behind a paywall. This sucks. I had almost started to believe in the Mormon faith.

John 10:34

Psalm 82:6

Alma was before the birth of Jesus Christ, so the laws of Israel have not been fulfilled yet. Alma's teaching is not Biblical and encourages lawlessness, only Jesus Christ can have fulfilled the laws to make known the Way to Truth through Life. Only Jesus Christ could have made the narrow road for us to follow through His perfect obedience and sinless nature. Alma teaches that this road is available before the fulfillment of Jesus Christ and so it is against God.

10%

Goes back to Leviticus

You didn't respond to my comment, faggot.

You are the faggot for you will be cast in the fire
Lest ye repent

Alma teaches that this road is available before the fulfillment of Jesus Christ and so it is against God.

???
Abraham was saved by faith

The just shall live by faith

You are confusing the gospel for something else.

So you think God will eat his children if he fears they will overtake him? That's Saturnian. That's not a father. That's a tyrant. Lucifer is the child that spurned his parents discipline because he wanted to eat cake and play all day. The obedient son learns and respects his parents, and eventually becomes their peers when he is a full grown man.

You cannot serve both God and [Mammon]

Ftfy. The verse does not say money. You know its funny you use that verse, because the fight against Mammonism is the foundation of NatSoc economics, which nationalizes the banks. To prevent usury and the worship of money. So yes anon, it sounds like Joseph Smith was quite right in trying to eliminate the banks which have come to dominate our world.

It's not really, except that Mormons claim the keys to 'true' baptism and Heaven through their priesthood. Their priesthood usurps Jesus Christ's work on the cross and His perfect obedience to fulfill the law because we could not and cannot, without Him.

make debate point

random bible quote with no explanation

you're a faggot

you're gonna burn in hell

Holy fuck please stop embarrassing yourself. Leave the cult.

We are not arguing on an equal footing
You have zero authority

The OT law is fulfilled in Jesus Christ, he paid the price of it all without ever sinning. To say that we need to make an attempt to do a better job than Jesus Christ did in fulfilling the OT laws is calling Jesus Christ a liar and denying His perfect work on the cross.

words you put in my mouth

*ptew* I spit them out

It’s unjustified in the modern world. Imagine a Christian church, synagogue or mosque asking its members to donate 10% of their wages. It’s ridiculous

An intelligent reader will observe that is a hypocrite