Why do Russians love their communist dictators so much?

and the percentage drops over time

does it really?

hohol chart. lmao.

Eurasian pale Chinks

chinksects ants love their colony this bitch looks chinky as fuck were you expecting a human perosn with a soul or something

and the 20 millions of christians gneocided they were criminals? why are you defending jews that killed russia?

Stalin killed everyone who was a free thinking person leaving only the slave cattle who will do whatever their master tells them to do.
I believe without stalin and his iron fist the soviet Union would have collapsed in WWII and all his terror against their citizens was needed to win that war.

hyhylspeek

uh oh Taras...

Gradually I've begun to hate them

Everyone loves dictators

You can see the discomfort in her face at being asked that question. She's afraid she'll be punished if she says the wrong thing

Russians look white-adjacent but their appearance is misleading. In reality their thought processes are more similar to other Asiatic races like the Chinese or Mongols. One example of this is their lack of value for individual life, unlike Europeans the Russian barely reacts to losing a husband or family member, their first thought is usually “where is my money?”

Why does it matter if they were Christian or not? The bolsheviks killed more Muslims than Christians and hence why Kadyrov banned all communist nostalgia in Chechnya.
The monarchy was not even real orthodoxy since Peter. The old believers all supported the bolsheviks. The bolshevik revolution was nothing other than the old believers conducting violence on Muslims and fake Christians

because this guy is syaign stalin only killed criminals

>Why do Russians love their communist dictators so much?

because it is our history

OP didn’t ask “What is Russians’ history?” but WHY Russians LOVE a dictator so much, so please answer his question - is Putin a sweet innocent child, or what about him is so lovable and cute?

When dealing with russians, the biggest mistake westerners do is assuming that because they look like us, they act like us. They don't. Their way of thinking, their society, are something completely alien to us. You have to throw away every assumption you have about people and start from scratch. Only then you can start understanding why russians are the way they are and why they do the things they do.

we are an independent civilization that has little to do with you people. We just took notes from you from time to time.

lmao jews going back to full raicsm propaganda when it suits them

your country is literally the exactsame except poorer wtf ar eyou smoking ivan

Do Russians have their own wumao now? If commies didn't fuck up Russia it could have been just as good a place to live as America. All the smart Russias left as soon as the borders opened. Only you retards are left.

you know nothing about it. You have not even been here.

we are nothing alike.

nigger. We were the second country in the world in communist times.

all the rest is lies and noise aimed at stupid people who left.

we have nothing to be ashamed of

The natural conclusion of the October revolution and Stalinism was 8 year old you prostituting yourself for heroin in the sweltering summer of '92, never forget that.

anywhere with niggers cannot be a good place to live. sorry

lmao.
this is why your propaganda does not work. It is so incredibly stupid.

how did you fall for it to begin with?

like i would need to be there. its just a poor eastern european coutnry average run of the mill with more corruption and traumatized by communism + forced to suck the government dick out of fear of retaliation. youd love to think you re special but you re not.

also ther eis no such thing as a russian people becaus erussia is a country the size of a continent with many different people in it and all the racemixed in between. you just got less migrants from a place and more migrants from another and poverty makes you more conservative, watch russia become reach and half your population turn into fucking faggots. its easy to pretend to be strong when you r enot put to the test. russia is filled with faggots you just dont know it yet

the natural conclusion of westoid liberalism is filling the sweden with arabs and niggers, and throwing white swedes in prison for criticising immigration policy.

lies and noise aimed at stupid people who left.

lmao the USSR was begging Russians abroad to come back because all the smart people left. It's called a brain drain. And they never came back because who the fuck wants to go back to your shithole. You boot licking faggots fucked up the entire country. You fucking commie parasite.

You have such a mind-boggingly low verbal iq that you can't even string together a germane counterargument, all you've left with is desperately and impotently flailing at something you don't like but is powerless to respond to.
Stop embarrassing yourself and leave the thinking to your betters, little serf.

and this is why you are losing this war. Those stereotypes and delusions are very far from reality.

Have you ever stopped for a second and asked some basic questions about it? like
- where this information is comming from?
- how come it was the second most powerful country for 50 years
- where all soviet advancements went away?
- what percentage of population in Russia are russians?

after you ask yourself those you would not write stupid nonsense like this.
this is what nafo does not want you to do. They want you to be ignorant and suggestible

If commies didn't fuck up Russia it could have been just as good a place to live as America

From what I've heard from my parents and grandparents post-ww2 USSR was a good place to live in. Much better than the modern US, though that isn't saying much.

Such bullshit, Stalin wasnt even slavic.

yeah, they're called russians

fast forward to today, and the brains that were drained ended up being jewish mensheviks who lobbied to send americans to die for israel. womp womp

o-oh yeah b-b-but...

Pathetic, as expected from your kind.
I'd ask you to point me to thee part where I say that I'm proud of liberalism but engaging in a honest discussion with you subhumans is pointless.

From what I've heard from my parents and grandparents post-ww2 USSR was a good place to live in. Much better than the modern US, though that isn't saying much.

Like I said, I only retards are left. Maybe you should travel outside the country some time and see how life is outside your commieblock. You know that Russians outside of your shithole have their own houses? Like an entire house. Yup. You couldn't even imagine such a thing because you're a fucking dumb cunt who bought into commie propaganda.

If I justify your lies with a justification it will give it some legitimacy.

this is why I won't waste my time on it.

let's imagine it is true. Now what a smart person would do he will ask himself. But how those smart people originated there to begin with?
maybe it has something to do with education system?

the mystery :D

dude we're not even at war
глyпaя жaбa

We were the second country in the world in communist times.

Even at the height of the USSR it was a goddamn shithole with breadlines and 10 year wait time to get a crappy Lada. And this "prosperity" was only possible because Russia stole all the industrial output of its satelite states to prop themselves up.

so is the lie you tell yourself.

The brains that were drained have successful businesses across the world while you sit in your commieblock spouting propaganda with your bottle of vodka trying to avoid freezing during winter when the heating fails.

Because russians have always been and always will be low IQ slaves

Maybe you should travel outside the country some time

I have been to 20+ countries. Both first-world and shitholes. Most places are either comparable or worse to where I live.

commieblock

Commieblocks are peak comfy, and I am tired pretend that they are not

You know that Russians outside of your shithole have their own houses?

Most people I know used to have their families a flat and a dacha during the USSR days
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacha

that was the point of it.
communism means you are getting your happiness from your community not from mindless consuming shit.

just because happiness for you is owning slop does not mean you are better than people who strive for something different

Chance of me getting drafted 0%
Chance of you being retarded 100%
Slavs are such a despicable race

herrrr they got a good education and then they left so our country is fine

Yeah Russian education was pretty good, you're right about that, and then ALL OF THEM FUCKING LEFT YOU FUCKING RETARD. Congrats on creating very smart people that knew NOT TO STAY IN YOUR SHITHOLE.

muh mystery why dont you give me these answers that may or not be true so i can tell if you re right? or yeah oyu wont because you re full of shit. hitler and napoleon shit on your country despite your country being bigger and having more people because the white russians make russia strong and the gooks at the east eat raw fish and ar ejust here to steal your money i nexchange for acess to natural resources or geography like the blacks in french islands

- where all soviet advancements went away?

putin manor and sising with chinese colonies like the zergs you are, insects beget insects

- what percentage of population in Russia are russians?

0 you have been drowned in hordes of gooks and russian gov is doing nothing to preserve the russian people and genocide you just like the jews

- where this information is comming from?

what information ? be more vague, i might understand your point and you dont want that because you have nothing to say

ironically those chances are opposite :D

lmao. no only some traitors left.
and the system that educated them to begin with is still there.

so we can make more :D

this is very simple 2+2 logic and yet you are unable to see it.

I would not give you those answers because I want you to look them up.

the thing with nafo trannies like you is that you do not actually read what people write to you.

you percieve it as propaganda. So go look it up yourself and make your own mind for once.

so we can make more

Yeah you do make more, I meet a lot of them here when they immediately immigrate. The brain didn't stop. Nobody wants to live in Russia.

Jewish brainwashing

read what? you write

I would not give you those answers

so ther eis nothing to read. give the answers ot gtfo

Because democracy is wasteful of resources and dictatorship is wasteful of lives

there are stupid people who fall for your low iq propaganda and leave.

most of them return btw. And bring everything they learned from you back home.

In the long run even this is very beneficial for us.

google it - choose the source you would trust and then learn something for once.

this is the only way to heal from the brainrot you are experiencing right now.

muh gulag

It’s just a jail for criminals.
Imagine believing propaganda spread by capitalists. I bet you took the vaxx.
Low iq behavior.

brainrot ,from what? you didnt even say what did i say was wrong so i dont even know what to look up? be more vague

I gave you the questions to look up here

there are stupid people who fall for your low iq propaganda and leave

What propaganda you dumb fuck? They lived in Russia. They usually come over for a holiday, realise it's so much better and they can get paid a lot more and live in an actual house and they immediately pack their shit.

most of them return btw. And bring everything they learned from you back home.

HAHAHAHAHAHA NOBODY GOES BACK you dumb cunt and how are they going to bring FREEDOM back to Russia? Are you going to vote Putin out of office? Are you going to get a american style constitution? What do you think will magically happen?

No, crimes like rape, murder and theft
USSR actually encouraged university education

tf

tp

It's actually 666 million pure white Christians personally executed by Stalin
Read Solzhenitsyn
Commies are the reason we exist as a state, even despite the decomunization

Commies are the reason we exist as a state

wut?

Commies are the reason the entire country went to hell, the economy collapsed and all the smart people left and built better lives elsewhere. Commies are the reason Russia is now run by a KGB mafia that loots the country. The best you can say about Russia is at least it's not as bad as China, but that's not saying much.

nobody's perfect

Kek, i say that when i do pro-nigger bait posts.

not 660 millions, 20 ùmillionjs crhsitians. evil jews who killed christians and evil woke cucks who kills rleigious people like tyhe assholes who killed nunjs in france. the worst people to exist. thats why far left must be opressed. its a nest of murderers and psychopaths

Without commies russia would be like india right now.

Without industrializing we would have lost to germany
See above
Plus current state is the result of decommunization

Source: Bezmenov, Solzhenitsyn and Suvorov

Russia was never like India in all its history. You're a retard.

Commies are the reason the entire country went to hell

The country was already in hell, commies are the only reason there is still a country.

I do not think there is any point in talking to you.
your "facts" are based on your delusions.

you can believe whatever you want :D
I ultimately do not care.

Without industrializing we would have lost to germany

who knows if there even would have been a war in that scenario

Yeah, in 1910 it was totally a rich and developed country.
God, you're such a retarded nigger.

Cattle

one more thing though

What propaganda you dumb fuck

the one you see here.
it is very primitive and aimed at low iq niggers.

the way it works is simple - say how something is wrong no matter how stupid it is to accumulate enough hate in person so one day he starts to hate his own country.

it is very crude and primitive. Works only on people without critical thinking.

and it is being done not only in Russia but in other places too.

they killed many christians in russia and gneocide dmany ukrainians through organized famines as well

jews targeted both white sand christians. ussr is evil kikery and anyone who defends that is anti russian anti humanity or anti anything life in general

you think you have critical thinking because you refuse to conside the bad things in your coutnry you brainwashed cuck? you re a good slave

I just fact check everything before making a judgment.
this is what you should do if you want to be free. Because ironically you are the one enslaved here.

Read Solzhenitsyn

read Varlam Shalamov, the Kolyma Tales, pidor.

because as a society, they're cattle on a substantially lower level than even Americans.
And only understand the language of violence, oppression and social, economic and cultural coercion applied to anyone who is smaller.

It's good they worship commie dictators- they killed tens of millions of them, that should be celebrated.

woman absolutely loving the boot on jer face

You know they say its forever

Stalin kills millions:

At least it was different people and multiple races so it's technically not evil

Hitler allegedly kills millions:

WTF GERMANY BAD RACISM AWFUL WE HEROES NOW

one question niggers like you can't answer is..
how is it different from what Imperial Russia did before them?

lmao. you pathetic niggers are so low iq and poorly educated but you think you know something :D

urrra!

listen its very simple you coping slavbe : russia is storng becaus ethey have an insect buidl that only works through very high population just like the chinksects and if you had a population of 60 millions like france or UK you would never have been rleevant you understand that?

thats what happen when you drown your country in gooks muslims and random stuff for the entire world you rte globohetero, you dotn even need jews to gneocide you the empire just does the job as always

when u dont have quality u can have quantity. just out of insecurity jealousy and greed youd gneocide yourselves thats what happebns when u spend too much time around soulless people your soul gets sucked in and you lose your own as well

Effectively it burns to either
a - our ancestors were based and did no wrong, fuck you all or
b - our ancestors were criminals and we own to all

Russians are not into cuck shit like West yet so Stalin was based. Who cares about ancient stuff anyway. I'm more interested in today and morrow.

Slop like eating something else than a boiled potato and stale bread 7 days a week? Or living in a nice home instead of a run down concrete shitbox next to alcoholic pidors?

After the cold war we didnt give the Russians an alternative. We basically kept treating them as an embarrassment. So naturally they love the last time they were great.

Are you serious? Russia in the 1900s was better than India is today.

Russians should be exterminated and Russia should be turned into a large reserve inhabited only by ethnic tribes and animals.

lmao.

I just not going to read this word salad - sorry it is just pointless.

just say that jew was an evil kike that russia got better twhen the kike left and that europe should also rmeove the kikes form their government so they can become better like russia did instead of supporting filth that gneocided your own people WTF is wrong with russians i guess you re not all like that but still

You write like a nigger you must read and stop giving a fuck about retarded foreigners and this website.
archive.org/details/lafrancejuiveess01drum/page/n13/mode/1up

goes to show that your empire has always been "the prison for nations" and people with varying degrees of murderous tyranny.

hate his own country

I literally said at the beginning that Russia would be great if it wasn't for commies. You can't even read you just recite propaganda fed to you.

the westerners want us to hate our country!

NO YOU RETARD I WANT YOU TO PROSPER YOU DUMB FUCKING BRAINWASHED FUCKING FAGGOT

no it is getting happiness from achieving something big. Being a part of something.
From human interaction instead of sitting in your home alone without friends with no girlfriend.

he is not french he can't read it.

Nobody wants you to hate your country. Everyone wants China to prosper. India to prosper. Russia to prosper. We are laughing at you. It's not propaganda, we think you are a fucking joke that can't get its shit together. My dacha burnt down btw, cause it's old and made of wood. I'm glad we don't have that problem in Australia. Suck shit retard.

We were the second country in the world in communist times

In imperial times, shortly before the WW1. Things were finally getting good before it was all destroyed never to recover.

lets assume it is true.
now tell me which country has most prisoners in the world? it is USA.
Russia is not even close :D

why do you send millions of people to gulags?

Because of the commies.

Russia is not even close :D

Russia has 143 million prisoners since Russia is prison of peoples

Because just like everyone else in the world, she’s ignorant of history. She didn’t live through the dreaded 4 AM knock at the door, the false accusations, torture-induced confessions, show trials, and exile to Siberia.
So her attitude is all eggs and omelettes.

You have never been independent. You have always been a population of slaves. Whether it is Mongols, Poles, Turks, Kazakhs, Jews, Stalin, Putin, you have never been a free people. Your society only exists to serve their master unquestionably.

Before the commies.

and if you learn the history of it.
about alexander II, alexander III for example you would learn that it was destroyed by people like you.

лyчшee вpaг хopoшeгo.

never hate your country, your people and your history. Never in history of human kind any good came from it.

and most importantly do not listen to enemy telling you how bad we are :D
it is just stupid.

Thatcher

That must have been comforting for the political prisoners.

Not all Russians live in concrete boxes. In villages people live in houses.

wrong, the reason russia is such a shithole is because of constant invasion from ottoman, sweden, western europe, china

If you kill enough Slavs you become a hero of Slavs

Russia has had decades to get their shit together without anyone invading them. So why haven't they, when all other former USSR countries managed to prosper?

Too many assumptions, nigger.
I don't hate my country, nor the history of it. I'm just observing it with objectivity instead of blindly claiming it was all a linear progression of good.
The empire didn't need to fall and it was in fact a disaster.

when all other former USSR countries managed to prosper?

Like which ones? Are you joking?

he reason russia is such a shithole is because of constant invasion from ottoman, sweden, western europe, china

Sweden invaded almost 300 years ago and didn't even do anything. Russia invaded China and took land from them. Outside of Crimean war and small skirmishes in WW1 there was little fighting with Russia

those are not assumptions those are observations.
nigger.

people who were thinking like you destroyed it.
If it was for the better or worse it is an open question.

soviets did a lot of good. Nobody in history of our country developed it to a degree they did.

we should be proud of that instead of whipping for could be would bes

Which former USSR countries are poorer than russia? Maybe Tajikistan, and that's about it. Every single European country like Poland, Czechia, Estonia, went on the road to prosperity after USSR collapsed and they joined the EU. They are infinitely richer and better in every way than russia.

how did every other country develop without manical soviets then?

russia is such a shithole is because of constant invasions

nope, russia is a shithole because of the majority of people therein being lazy, indifferent, corrupt, subhumans.

if you are asking about western countries they had the privilege of using accumulated capital that they got from robbing africa, asia and south america.

we had to do it by ourselves. Alone isolated from the rest of the world by you. It did us a lot of good in the end.

capital that they got from robbing africa, asia and south america.

you sound like you went to Karl Marx university

we are richer than you that should tell you something :D

and you sound like you are sponsored by soros foundation.

punishment for speaking ill of the regime

culture of snitches (they had it beaten into them thanks to all the soviet purges)

when you are powerless against the tyrant it is much easier to fool oneself and say one supports the tyrant rather than admitting powerlessness

some people, when they have near nothing, can get something out of being part of something that costs nothing. such as chauvinism.

many eastern slavs have a master/slave dynamic and measure someones worth by how much they can abuse someone else. thereby respecting someone who abuses the whole country

If only Big H wrote a book where he specifically said he wants Lebensraum or something

Gulags

So what? Prosons are needed, and if they are doing something useful in them then it's even better

Muh prison of nations

That's why former USSR republica voted overwhelmingly to keep it
Can't make an omelette without cracking some eggs

Monke is rich, as are your jewish oligarchs, but 99% of russians are poor as shit. You can barely even afford butter and eggs, you must be in the top 1% of russia to have electricity or internet or indoor plumbing. Or is that only because you're in the Internet Research Agency office?

russia didn't have the time to recover from the loss of intelligentsia or capital

no, because you dont understand how the economy works
and the shit about "robbing africa" is typical marxist talk

lmao.
do you ever check the shit you are writing?
I suggest you do that.

anyone with access to google can prove you wrong :D

are you telling me that capital is not important for economy?
:D

I think you do not understand how economy works

Poland, Czechia

former USSR countries

You're just a braindead moron.

people who were thinking like you destroyed it.

No, it was the people that saw their lives improve and then wanted them improved even more and even faster, because they thought the current government, that improved their lives to begin with, isn't doing a good enough job. Those were the socialist radicals in the pre-war times.
Then came war and quality of life dropped for everyone massively. Everyone fell for the idea of immediate gibs, and the revolution was hijacked by terrorists that promised even bigger, even more radical gibs.
Instead of wanting to cultivate something people just wanted to subscribe to the feel good thing of people owning everything, and all of this ended in mass executions, hunger and expulsions of the very people that worked on what prosperity was there.

had the privilege of using accumulated capital that they got from robbing

you've had the larges, most rich in resources landmass in the world for several hundred years, mismanaging and robbing all that wealth to benefit just a few rulers, that you still worship for some reason.

How is russia richer than a random European country exactly? When you don't have electricity or indoor plumbing.

Which former USSR countries are poorer than russia?

Ukraine too an extreme degree.

country like Poland, Czechia, Estonia, went on the road to prosperity

Russia would be the same as well if EU gibs and printed USD were injected proportionally as well as all the other benefits of being a globalist vassal.

Also the difference between Poland and Russia isn't night and day at all and there is a real shithole like Ukraine that serves as a reminder of that.

you're obese retard whose country was run by mafia and gangsters for most of the history
mutts played dirty like the amoral gangsters they are and secured their currency through wars

we are richer than you

"we" - LMAO

no there are many factors you are missing.
most importantly same shit was all over europe after french revolution.

those radicals were not much different from liberals today. Same mindset.

culture of snitches

It's the Germanoids and Anglos that have these retarded house associations that have neighbors snitch on each other for "reducing the property value" o algo. Anglo world went even a step further with their negative IQ cancel culture.
In what way can anyone even snitch on each other outside of these good goy hierarchies nowadays?

I think you do not understand how indoor plumbing works.

I think you do not understand how economy works

Bro your country shills commies and the first thing they tell you when you visit economic university is that commies are economically illiterate. Literally the first thing they tell you

Nobody is celebrating in Poland right Vladimir? The difference between Poland and russia is like day and night. There is a reason why Poland is prospering while russia remains a dirt poor shithole and it's not EU gibs.

first invent a lie based on nothing. A meme at best.

then believe the lie you yourself invented

why westerners are like this?

This guy probably lives in Moscow and one of his family was in the party. That's probably why he thinks everything is great. Same problem that Democrats have. They're so far removed from the average person on the street.

brother how far away is your shared porta potty for your flat
mine is around 30m from the building and there's always 2 people standing there

under communism we had 300% growth in first few years - the biggest in history of this planet.

while west was in great depression we were growing at an impossible rates.
The westerers themselves were constantly talking about symbiosis of communism and capitalism that would be a superior way..

China actually did it. good for them.

hello hohol. I wondered when you will show up.
still here I see. You promised to leave us multiple times already.

You are a gypsy bulgar

muh Moscow

Have you even been here?

I'm not a hohol lol I'm just trying to troll the wecterners by pretending we don't have indoor plumbing

a churkoid with slavic name still isnt a slav, in fact, it makes it harder to tell them apart.

kek.

there is a uhg tranny with a russian flag that writes posts like this.

Why do pajeets refuse to post with theor real flags?

if you don't do what we say you are a criminal

be russian who hates neighbour for whatever reason

call cops

my neighbour says the SMO is a full scale invation

wee woo off to jail Ivan

That's not a crime thoughbeit. Just calling cops on someone won't land them in jail either.
Keep proving you don't know shit about my country and just throw whatever at the wall to see what sticks to cope with your own troubles at home.

I saw this on the news a few days ago and spat my drink out. Fucking insanely brainwashed.

under communism we had 300% growth in first few years

Lol, even lmao. As you can see, this "phenomenal growth" only managed to bring us back to the trend. We'll have same development just following the trend, without any commie shit, and tens of millions of people would have been saved.

they show you on the news random babushkas opinions from Russia? :D
lmao

wee woo

you cant deny videotapes of people being pulled off by cops for expressing their views on the war. also, I lived in Moscow for a while right by Ю́гo-Зáпaднaя metro stop. I actually didn't believe a lot of what was said about russia before going but man.. you guys need better plumbing.

tens of millions of people would have been saved

anon.. that is propaganda. If you stop accepting what others tell you and actually go and check those numbers you will quickly see that it is hoax.

It was a piece about the new Stalin statue at a railway station, and the rise of Stalin worship in Russia

he was a great leader.
China for example would not be what it is today if not for him.

we owe him a lot.

I lived in Moscow for a while right by Ю́гo-Зáпaднaя metro stop

I studied there. Not the best district in Moscow actually. Didn't you come there to study at RUDN University?

meanwhile the west flooded itself with niggers, indians, etc

We fight for centuries, build the most peaceful secure nations in human history. Get board and fill it with people that don't like us in the supposed idea of making the world a better place at the expense of its citizens.
Rather unfortunate and self-deprecating.

For the love of god xyxylbro
More people in hruceraine are nostalgic towards communism than in Russia

Stalin purged kikes like Trotsky from ruling positions in USSR, under his rule USSR had rapid economical growth, and we won WWII. The more interesting thing why anglokikes and other wectoid subhumans are so mad that russians have good opinion about Stalin. Why do you even care? It's not your buisness.

Stalin purged kikes like Trotsky from ruling positions in USSR

The more interesting thing why anglokikes and other wectoid subhumans are so mad that russians have good opinion about Stalin

that is propaganda

Civil war: 10kk at least
Povolzhye famine: 5kk population deficit according to Soviet data
Famine of 30-32: 3kk at least
Stalin's repressions: at least 750k shot, at least 950k died in Gulag

All of these are lowest estimates I got from Soviet sources. Victims of collectivization, extrajudicial killings and such aren't included.

That was a horrible time even by Soviet sources, bratan. And the reality is much more horrifying.

there are two types of soviet sources.
soljenitcin was kgb informant and his books was their doing.
they worked really hard to destroy soviet union.

but lets say that it is true.
Then you are assuming that it wold be different under Imperial Russia.
and that is a big IF. Sure there would not be famine and civil war. But there is a high chance that there will be no russia at all. It would be some sort of province of fourth reich.

в иcтopии нeт cocлaгaтeльнoгo нaклoнeния.

Now what good exactly would do crying today about those things?

More people in hruceraine are nostalgic towards communism than in Russia

LOL
x.com/RT_com/status/1920800120649490760

to show you an example of what I mean..

All of it can be said about Peter the Great.

He killed and repressed many people. And yet without him there will be no modern Russia.

stop listening to those kikes.

But there is a high chance that there will be no russia at all. It would be some sort of province of fourth reich.

Fascism was a reaction to communism, Hitler would've never come to power, let alone managed to start OP Barbarossa without the commie threat. The likely scenario is that Russia is as industrualized as the USA by the time of the war

and most importantly if you learn history of the west they also have this.

Every great push like that caused millions of casualties. It is not something unique to us.

Hitler was a WWI revanchist. He only hated Jews because he thought that they caused Germany to lose in WWI
And Putin himself said that if Nicky still ruled, Russia would lose WWI

Being pulled out of public places to disperse a protest and actually putting people in prisons are different things.
Western Europe uses water cannons and tear gas to achieve that. Russia is somehow a police regime, because our cops use hands instead.

the best example of it is Napoleon.
look how french treat him. He is the hero of their nation.

but what did he do exactly? killed 40% of best french people they had?
among many other things...

do not fall for the lies of those kikes

Lose WWII*

Russians are subhuman pale niggers.

Independent Finland has always been a democracy but we love a guy who executed a bunch of kids for being from leftoid areas and therefore picking up guns when told and sucking at fighting with them. Then he tried to get us to invade St. Petersburg but didn't because Russian schizos would rather lose to commies than acknowledge our independence unlike wise commies who knows the strength of Turan. Nobody likes sissies.

there are two types of soviet sources.

The ones you like SBD the ones you dislike, I got it. Still I doubt that Solzhenitsyn wrote that internal Soviet documents I used, lmao.

But there is a high chance that there will be no russia at all

Nope. If Russia didn't drop it's allies in WW1, it would've been one of victorious counties.

It would be some sort of province of fourth reich.

Lmao. You don't need commies to industrialize. Almost every other country done that without commies. And the Russian Empire was rapidly developing before the coups of 1917.

Now what good exactly would do crying today about those things?

I don't know why are you crying about it. I'm just stating the historical reality. That's necessary to make no other red mistakes in the future.

That's a bullshit of comparison. Peter the Great was as violent as other leaders of his time. He didn't stand out in any way. And the Communists were incredibly violent. No other country has needed anywhere near as many sacrifices to industrialize.

Retarded slavnigger forgot that christkeks also were included

Lmao. You don't need commies to industrialize

That is correct but other countries industrialised much slower than the Soviet Union did.

Not quite. South Korea industrialized faster. But not only that.

The thing is that without all that commie shit Russian Empire would've reached similar level of economy just by going as it goes, even without reforms (and it was planning to do reforms). Moreover, if the Soviets just continued with NEP, they would've achieved the same. There is an economic modeling on that. And in both cases they're would be much lesser victims.

Do you think commies did anything good for Russia?

anyway you can think whatever you want I just wanted to tell you my worldview.

every great push in history comes at a price.

if you learn history of the west they also have this.

I can name only one West country that killed more of her people in a more or less near period. That's the Reich. Guess, being better than Nazis is one good thing you can say about commies, but I think we should compare with normal countries.

violent

what a bullshit argument.
they were not polite enough :D
lamo nigger.

Russians can't cope with their own history, so they invent all kind of fantasies neglecting the red terror that Soviet Union spew around. Russians were first ruled by Mongols, then by Jews. Their cope mentality comes from being subjugated for centuries to foreign races hostile to them.

South Korea literally modeled itself after the Soviet Union and even had 5 year plans. You picked a bad example. Also they had massive foreign investment as a small country so they had it easier.
The Soviets ended NEP because economy started to slow down. Stalin was a proponent of NEP, did you know? Before it started to slow down. Russian Empire was also growing quickly, but without the education reform and literacy reform by commies they could only reach low level industrialization. Literacy by commies specifically was a huge collective effort that required people to believe in a common cause to sacrifice their own free time to go volunteer for this. I think it wouldn't be possible without such collectivism. And I also think that Moscow state university didn't even accept commoners before the revolution. And even if it did, without state funding no-one could afford it. Imagine how engineers were lost due to dumb elitism
South Korea also modeled the structure of their education system based on soviet union somewhat.

what does it tell us about you? You were ruled by us.

DAILY REMINDER.
Gulags were closed in 1965.
There were less people in Gulags as total or as % of the population,
then there are NOW PRISONERS IN US PRISONS.

around 2 mln in US prisons now

this.
thank you fren.

most of the people were pardoned by beria.

Russians were first ruled by Mongols, then by Jews

Russians we're never ruled by mongols. Ruled by Russians first, then by Germans, then, by a mixture of Russians, minorities and Jews. Under Yeltsin by Jews. Under Putin by Russians

goes to show that US empire has always been "the prison for nations" and people with varying degrees of murderous tyranny.

t. US with 2 MILLION in prisons right NOW

You faggots need to look at actual data instead of spewing CIA propaganda that you were fed in school.

we send our CIA agents to Russia

they got identified and jailed

Russia bad and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeviiiiiiil

Why do you keep sending CIA agents there??

It's a tough one. Mostly, they were terrible if we compare their achievements with ones that could've been without them. But still, there are certain achievements. At least I can name the Soviet style, which is very cool and well-known all over the world. The unitary approach has also had its fruits, for example, public heating systems, medicine, etc. I'm not sure it would have been created without the Communists.

I can also add equality of men with women, nationalities among themselves, etc. This is the reason why Russia is now immune to globohomo: we ALREADY don't think being a woman or a national minority if something significant in most cases, that's why we don't need that positive discrimination and shit. I'll emphasize it cause its important for understanding: we don't "give women rights". We just don't care if it's woman or man. That's the difference and that's good.

Still, overall it was shitty.

There were less people in Gulags as total or as % of the population,

Just compare the mortality rate. Gulags weren't your ordinary prisons, even not the worst ones. They were much, much more deadlier.

were prisons in other countries back then any better?

I have no iddea why this anon is getting so much shit.
Must be the NAFO trannies.

Putin's mother is jewish. Russia is currently ruled by KGB mafia who loots their country - and they seem content with it, just like they like it in gulag.

He's defending the kikes

Implying the Russians are not better off than all of us Jewmerican serfs

This picture is fake. Even if Putin himself is Jewish, there are many Russians in government.

Yes, they were. Really, if you do a comparative analysis, you will see it very well.

I feel you're making a mistake. Seems you equalise commies with Russians, that's why it's important for you to prove that Stalin was not that bad. Don't do that. Commies aren't Russians. They're an apocalyptic cult that took over Russia. You shouldn't treat invaders like your buddies.

it is a part of our history and it should be treated with respect.
you are making mistakes by assuming that world would be better without them.

If not for commies who knows what will be with Russia today. It might be nuked by USA or whatever else.

the problem here is that you do not care for millions of dead people you never knew.
There is some other issue that bothers you with them.

Putin acts like a jew. He starts wars, embraces multiculturalism, hordes wealth while always playing the victim.

I kinda know that they were much more deadly.
If you send people to siberian swamp without houses where it is -40*C in winter . That's not a normal temperature for people. So people naturally die.
Basically US Has the same situation only in northern parts of Canada (where nobody lives) and Alaska.
US prisons are all over US , a lot of them are in the deserts (+40*C is also something that human body doesn't sustain well)

so there are less breaks from prisons

Putin's mother is jewish.

Bullshit.
Why do you NAFO tranny mutts keep on hitting Putin with this known falsity?
There are so many angles to attack Putin and his jewish connections...

You're all gay.

CIA lies.

it is a part of our history and it should be treated with respect.

Then, should I treat Mongol invasion with respect? Or maybe I should pay respect to Nazi governors on Russian territories? That's a bullshit, of course I shouldn't respect commies.

If not for commies who knows what will be with Russia today.

We know, lmao. We have economic modeling and we have examples of other countries.

you do not care for millions of dead people you never knew

Your assuming is wrong. Though you're somehow right in the part where care more about people that would die if commie ideas win once again. The probability of this is small, but all the same, this abomination needs to be trampled while it shows signs of life.

The problem is that no matter how much Solzhetsyn you read the fact cannot be changed that in the civil war commies outnumbered the whites and that whites allowed the largest invasion of Russia since the napoleon's war. 250.000 foreign soldiers in Russia. The result of the war was your ancestors choice ultimately. You can say that the choice was wrong, but it doesn't suddenly make all of the commie supporters not Russian. Remember that this is the first time that a communit state survived. There were no other examples to draw from. They couldn't have known better.
Russia is not going to become communist again, so that worry is unneeded. Unless the shizos like Golytsin were correct.
Because even the commie sympathisers will not forgive the CPSU for letting the soviet union collapse and the 90s to happen.
Why would they want it to happen again if they will just let it collapse again and have a huge recession afterwards? No, it is unlikely that Russia will return to communism in our lifetimes.

Putin doesnt act like a jew. He improved Russia's standard significantly

Sadly, that wasn't the only case. You can read Sholokhov's letter to Stalin on dekulakization. That were the practices commies used on people who weren't even imprisoned. Then you can read about Solovki prison camp.

The thing is, commies were awfully and needlessly cruel.

I'm very confused by posts like yours, are you an alien that manifested from nowhere in 90s?
Did you not have a history? Family? Did you not have anyone who lost something during October revolution?
It is bizarre when you depersonalize this much.

WE NEED TO REOPEN GULAGS FOR MEMEFLAGGOTS

We know, lmao. We have economic modeling and we have examples of other countries.

You cannot predict how an economy will go. Especially in 100 years. And we established that every country except China and the Asian tigers grew slower than Russia. What your model did is took the growth in early 20th century and assumed that it would grow linearly. But economies never do that. They tend to slow down over time
HOWEVER, if Romanov was stronger leader and prevented the 90s, then maybe he could catch up by today. But that is hard to say. Russian monarchy could easily give birth to someone weak as well.

October revolution happened over 100 years ago, and almost every family had people fight on both sides. No matter the outcome, some of your loved ones would die.

in the civil war commies outnumbered the whites

They didn't outnumber whites in the beginning. They won cause they relied on the support of the proletariat that helped them to capture most of industry and arm storages at the start.

it doesn't suddenly make all of the commie supporters not Russian

I'm not saying they aren't Russian. I think of them as of indoctrinated people who fall under the cult.

Remember that this is the first time that a communit state survived

And now imagine. If that abomination that killed it's people right and left and used ineffective economical practices survived, what would've been if there was no abomination? It's an anti-commie argument actually.

Russia is not going to become communist again

Even if so, there fact is that commie fans support inefficient and inhumane economical and political practices, thus slowing down the development of Russia. So they should be contested anyway.

I agree . Commies ruthlessly killed too many people.
Unfortunately this is exactly what globohomo from London , Germany and Switzerland wanted who ran this commie russians killing operation.
Their goal was to kill as much russian elite as possible.

commies were out of London and Switzerland

Lenin and Buharin were constantly traveling to switzerland to get instructions on this color revolution.

Lenin said they need to take over banks, postal service and what else? Classical foreign color revolution instructions

London was where the bank formed that was printing new russian currency, roubles.

Airplanes with roubles landed in St . Petersburg very quickly. .. from where?

If that abomination that killed it's people right and left and used ineffective economical practices survived, what would've been if there was no abomination?

Russian Federation wouldn't be the same. Think about how many laws and enterprises come from that era. The labor law, the education law, ...
And state enterprises, etc. You really cannot predict what would happen. You know, if 100 million people die 10 years sooner than they should, that is effectively the same as 10 million deaths.

Even if so, there fact is that commie fans support inefficient and inhumane economical and political practices, thus slowing down the development of Russia. So they should be contested anyway.

In what way are commies slowing down Putin's Russia? They are not in power. And they are not going to be unless the current administration truly does something stupid. Even so, KPRF basically wants to copy China, they are not the same as the CPSU.

"Romanoffs" / "Windsors", Golshtein-Gottorp cousins for you.

FDR and Churchill also killed as many people as Stalin, how is Western boomer worship of those two freemasonic faggots any different?

I can surely predict that the Empire that was already developing modern institutions would've surely made all that was needed. Actually, commies draw Russia backward by destroying civil society, turning courts into tribunals, enslaving peasants back with kolkhozes and so on.

They are not in power.

That doesn't matter. What is matter, as I said, I'd that lot of people are okay with Soviet practices, both ordinary and elites. Latter make Soviet-style decisions using the support of the first.

How can you predict that? The soviet institutions were unlike anything anywhere else in the world at the time. First for state funded uni. First for 40 hour work week. What makes you think that the Tsar would dare to do such thing and stand out this much in the modern world?

soviet practices.

Oh please what soviet practices/decisions are there in Russian Federation

Russian boomers are just as bad as Western ones.
They got one-shot by TV media and never recovered.
Many royal houses were related.
English King Chuck has more Slavic and German blood then Anglo-Saxon blood.

way too late to attempt revisionism on that particular subject

English King Chuck has more Slavic and German blood then Anglo-Saxon blood.

This is not something to be proud of.

The labor law

Labor laws were already one of the best on the continent in the imperial times.
It's just they were still not enough at the time and people wanted more leniency and protection, which was a worldwide problem.

the education law

Public education was already in the making during the imperial times. Most of the Soviet reforms were based on the work of the imperial academy, including the notorious language reform. Bolsheviks completely warped the purpose of this reform too. Russian language was supposed to be modernized and generalized for all East Slavs in preparation for public education. Instead, only the RSFSR got the reforms, meanwhile the Ukrainian and Belarusian SSRs got their nationalistic movements work on cultivating their own language and culture, specifically without introducing this reform, which led to a further linguistic alienation of the Russian language from the other two as a result, instead of the original goal of uniting the peoples.
I think you should understand the consequences of this right now.

They make westoids seethe

Labor laws were already one of the best on the continent in the imperial times.

12 hours and it wasn't even enforced. I think even Germany had better one.

which was a worldwide problem.

Americans still work 12 hours so it is safe to say that if Russia wouldn't spearhead the labor rights movement, no other country would either.

In the making

Yes but without you showing specifics I am going to assume it was simply modeled after some other European country which at the time had only lower education funded by the state. Yes Lenin was wrong on Ukraine and he should have listened Rosa Luxembourg because she was right about ukraine
You didn't answer about what kind of soviet actions federation has

Crimes such as having a university degree

i am ok with bringing that to EUSSR

What makes you think that the Tsar would dare to do such thing and stand out this much in the modern world?

That's quite obvious. I guess it isn't well known in other countries but Russia was highly influenced by socialist ideas long before the coups, and I'm speaking about elites in the first place. That's why it created obschina instead of free farming, for example. Just read quotes if obschina creator or even of Stolypin of all the others.

Don't get me wrong. I see no harm in socialist ideas in general. The problem is, commies are not just socialist. They're the most radical, sectarian type of socialism. You can compare them with radical Islamist movement and see no big differences aside from different holy scriptures.

what soviet practices/decisions are there in Russian Federation

For example, our government is very cautious about local initiatives of any level and uses censorship in the cases it's hilariously useless.

because theyre fucking retarded and need to be managed in every part of their life

Russia was highly influenced by socialist ideas long before the coups, and I'm speaking about elites in the first place. That's why it created obschina instead of free farming, for example. Just read quotes if obschina creator or even of Stolypin of all the others.

Yes but that was in academia. The tsar was not fond of socialist ideas, but because of his inexperience with ruling he might have let some ministers like this in accidentally. Fair point.

For example, our government is very cautious about local initiatives of any level and uses censorship in the cases it's hilariously useless.

Can you be more specific?

But Russia DID lose in WWI. Their monarchy lost the provisional government lost and at the end Soviets lost under lenins rule being forced to accept our extremely hard demands.

First for 40 hour work week.

Oh, and about this. It's absolutely funny. Yeah, they made a paper fit 8 hour workday... in the country where 85% of the population were peasants, who were not affected. And let me also mention the labor conscription.

In fact, the USSR was very good on paper. The problem is, the reality was different.

Good goy

According to Hitler these were not enough. He was sure that if not for bolsheviks and Jews, Germany would have taken the whole Russia and won the war. This was not his unique point of view. Literally the most common reason for antisemitism in post WWI Germany was Germans thinking that they lost because of Jews.

I think that the peasants generally worked less than factory workers. Otherwise I don't understand why a peasant who has experienced serfdom would protest anything at all. But there were several strikes at the time, some even lead by one Orthodox priest who was not against the political system in general, just against conditions

Can you be more specific?

We have a purely formal federalization, in fact, the regions can hardly do anything without the direction of the federal government. There are also very few public organizations. As for the censorship, now the state is going to ban childfree propaganda. Most of the Russians learned that childfree actually exists from the news about this ban.

Why havent they managed to breed?

But that is because of birth rates. I doubt that Nicky would allow this either since the church back then didn't even allow divorce if your spouse cheated on you

"well, it happens. nobody is perfect"

lmao based

Sorry EUKikes, not everyone is ashamed of their history. Try harder.

But Russia DID lose in WWI.

It wasn't going to lose it until it got stabbed in the back by Entente which backed the Provisional Government.
Honestly if Kaiser managed to get Russia to switch sides last minute like French did with Italy, it would have been massive W for both Germany and Russia.

Hostlein-Gottorpa and Oldenburgs have German and some northern (Norway? Sweden?) blood.

Well, I'm not trying to say the Empire was perfect. It had a lot of problems and it needed reforms (that were ongoing but, you know, something happened). My point is, we didn't need commies to develop, that's all.

Yeah, it's about birth rates. I'm about the fact that this movement had almost no influence in Russia and it's quite stupid to ban them if everyone around already think they're freaks.

Actually, our government doesn't understand that we're already vaccined from globohomo. The LGBT movement had little to none influence too, tranny laws were already strict and led not to the cases we see in the USA. Still officials are fighting it. As I see it, they're still under Soviet mentality thus they're afraid to let the society solve problems on its own.

Exactly, lmao. That's why I think things can be much better when the generation on power changes.

not everyone is ashamed of their history

In your country's case you just make it up lmao

Back then without modern farming techniques the German empire was way overpopulated and needed to import food.
Nowadays with tens of millions more people in Germany while Germany is relatively very small we're not only food independent we even export food.
Back then all empire in Europe had serious problems with food independence hence why the hunt for new clay was a thing especially in Africa.
Getting new lebensraum was not some maniac believe it was simply normal.

no, the problem with WW1 was losing in the west after the americans showed up and the communists started a revolution in Germany

I don't know the specifics but Hitler was certain that bolsheviks and Jews caused Germany to lose WWI and that they came from Russia

The army hated Nicky II and wanted him gone after almost 4 years getting completely destroyed by Germany and the situation became only worse and worse. The reason why the communist became so instantly popular was because the provisional wanted to continue the war and the only change was that Nicky was gone.
Lenin was the only one who promised the population and army to make peace with Germany that's why they followed him in the millions.
Germany just should have promised Russia that they can have condtatinople including all the orthodox balkanmonkeys and telling Austria to shut up and don't try to take orthodox lands.
Then Russia could become our ally but we'll things went differently

It is not just about the movement. Many advertisements or movies show raising children as tedious and thankless job and incredibly difficult. And to some extent this is true. But it does make people want to have zero or one child instead of say three. So the influence is there even if it is not explicitly named like this. I also do not want to have children seeing so many of such things, so I personally know that it works. And with lgbt this is what would also happen in the empire although it wouldn't be enforced to such a degree simply because the secret agencies of the empire were much less competent than cheka or FSB
Out of curiosity, how does Russia teach the bolshevik revolution, Lenin and Nicholas?

Why do Russians love their communist dictators so much?

same reason why most people neglect facts about their idols and start being apologetic. People are not yet evolved enough to be honest and critical about themselves and their history, they are not yet like Mr Spock who puts logic and facts on top of priorities, not even those who cliaim they do like Ben Shapiro.

Another thing is that when Polish attacked Russia during the civil war, the reds were the only ones resisting. The white army preferred a smaller Russia to a bolshevik Russia so they didn't fight against the Polish and also a small number of them fought for the Polish.
This angered the remaining tsarist army officers and had them come to the red side. Before this, white army had vast majority of tsarist experienced officers
After the Polish attack, the reds actually had majority of tsarist officers fighting for them thanks to Brusilov urging other officers to join the reds. This is probably a big factor in their victory. The white army did a serious blunder with their relation to Poland.

The army hated Nicky II and wanted him gone

Nope, only a part of it, mostly agitated by socialist. You can read Brysilov on that.

almost 4 years getting completely destroyed by Germany

Lmao. By the time of the revolution, the German army stucked in Russia and the tzar was preparing for major offensive in 1917.

Actually, that's laughable. If Germany has lost even after commies gave it a lot of territory and leave the war, it would surely lost if Russia kept fighting.

this

Don't you feel ashamed of yourself, lying in this blatant way?
Can you even look at yourself in the mirror?

I don't think so. In fact, I don't think influence is that powerful as people usually think. We had 30 years of Western influence, around 15 of them it wasn't restricted at all. Actually, it was even supported. Still, we have almost no LGBT and three quarters of the population supporting the SMO.

Out of curiosity, how does Russia teach the bolshevik revolution, Lenin and Nicholas?

In schools, you mean? They try to stay surprisingly objective, still Bolsheviks and Lenin a shown rather negatively and Nicholas II rather positively.

It is a lot easier to convince people to give up certain responsibilities than it is to make them not support their country or to make them gay
How would you fix the birthrate then?

I've read that the reds used it as propaganda that foreign powers want to take Russia over aka the entente interventions and aid given to the whites which changed dozens of russians to support the reds.

mfw Swiss have a xixil diaspora too these days

Poor cheese eaters

No idea. As I know so far, no one figured how to do it yet. Personally, I think that it's more of social thing and it can be fixed with propaganda and restrictions, but not these ones. These won't do anything useful.

That I don't know. It definitely had an effect but then again entente aid was over 250.000 soldiers so it was almost definitely more beneficial than not. You should know that Nicky also sent soldiers to Poland when it was fighting against socialist insurgents. I think Poland was more influential

I'm swiss you disgusting liar!
Kill yourself!

How ironic that an Englishman who is obedient and subservient to a tyrant king should say this.

nafo troons argue that Russia is multicultural, but even the most arabic looking people from the caucus / churkas look absolutely white compared to the mutts and niggers flooding europe and usa. what's up with that? I have no pride in usa, those mutts all raised the fist on their knees to niggers, that one video even shows a mutt kissing black hebrew israelite boots, or that one where those swedish troons and liberals carry a giant nigger fist in minnesota for george floyd.

preparing an offensive

With what army and weaponry?
The Russian offensive capabilities were completely exhausted after your failed brusinov offensive and the Russian hard industry was very small and inefficient.
You had 2 revolutions in a row for a reason and the reason was not some jew magic but simply that your population and especially was exhausted after nonstop losing.
There was not 1 single successful offensive the russians did in the entire war without bleeding themselves dry.

Why is Minnesota so embarrassing and full of swedish cucks? You come here and this is what you do. Shiloh wasn't swedish, ukrainian I hear. How about that? Even pig sausages make better citizens than swedish cucks.

Those entente soldiers were not on the frontline but supported from behind with logistics and such. And poland.. you mean in the 1905 revolution? Poles should have been completely genocided after that. All the too guys who lead the new formed poland after WWI were the same guys who started the 1905 revolution.
Russia was way too lenient on them when genocide were fully understandable.

Germany was just really bad at picking allies. Austro-Hungary was retarded abomination, with its Austrian part should have been absorbed by German Empire, thus removing the whole reason of Russia and Germany not getting along (Austrian claims in Balkans).
Also it were jesuits in Austria which lobbied to start a massive war to enrich themselves.

t. retard

Retard. Russia didn't get along with Austria because they repressed Croats and Slovaks inside. Merging Austria into Germany would do nothing.
Romanovs were not slavs but they still wanted to be portrayed as protectors of them.

It seems that this statement has caused some controversy

No I think Nicky won in 1905 in Poland. Hence why Poland was anti Bolshevik and attacked Russia later on

The shit in the balkans especially the orthodox areas was the reason why the 3 Kaiserbund failed because Germany always supported Austrians when we should have simply forced them to stay away from the balkans everything below Croatia. And promise them constatinople area so Russia could freely go out in the open sea and if someone has anything against it we would defend the claim of Russia with our entire might.
But like usual we knew what happened back then buy those people were living it in the moment and I'm sure everyone who did something believed it was the best and right thing at the moment.

Polackenlümmel were bolshevik bastards because it suited them to create trouble in the Russian empire and perfectly after Russia lost the war against Japan.
When all of Russia was suddenly communist and they came for newly founded poland too they obviously were against it because all they cared about was killing Russia and gain independence.