Money is not finite; one person gaining a dollar does not deprive another.
Money is not finite; one person gaining a dollar does not deprive another
What diagnosis do you have?
One person printing the dollars does devalue the rest of the dollars in circulation thoughbeit.
Taking a brick and just endlessly smashing her face with it until her skin and brains all over the fucking place.
The number of dollars in existence is finite though. By necessity, one person gains a dollar when another person loses that dollar.
Numbers in a ledger are not dollars btw. Miss me with that fractional reserve shit.
Tell that to the Federal Reserve
But why does my dollar become less valuable when another is printed?
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money has no value without being scarce; one person spending a dollar does deprive another of goods or service.
Cause assholes can get away with raising the price.
End the Fed now and forever. Inflation is a passive aggressive tax on savings. Usury isn't the problem taxation is.
Thats because people just pay it without waiting. Theres always going to be someone willing to pay more to get it now, so prices just continue to raise. Only when enough people go on an actual spending freeze, would prices begin to fall. If we all just not spend even a dollar for a week, it would crash everything..
Money is not a real thing, you idiot. It's fictional to keep retards slaving away for Schlomo Rottensteinbergwitz.
You think a number in your bank account equates to value? It's based on debt and your belief in the system. For fucks sake they just keep printing more of it at will.
FIAT-currencies are worthless.
this is quite literally the most retarded thing on this board, and jeets post here. do better.
of course it is, you fucking retard
when the elites can print money for themselves without constraint the value of money in your pocket drops
Usury causes more problems, inflation being one of them because you need enough cash circulating to pay the usurious debts.
because the more you have of a thing, the less it is worth, you retarded fucking nigger
if you take out a loan knowing it comes with a fee there is no wrong doing.
Supply and demand
Do you understand what value is? You probably wouldn't be asking this question if you did.
You really shouldn't be discussing anything relating to economics if you can't answer such a basic question.
Let's say there are 100 dollars circulating in the market. Suppose you have 10 of those, and the remaining 90 belong to an arbitrary company. You currently possess 10% of the money in the market. Govt. decides to step in and "support" the company by printing 50 dollars and giving it to the company. There are now 150 dollars in circulation. You still possess 10 dollars, but now your 10 dollars are no longer worth 10% of the market's money; they're now worth 6.67% approximately.
You lost money without having done anything, simply because government decided another company was more worthy than you are.
inb4 switch to currencies that don't print haphazardly
inb4 print your own money
inb4 private banks
You can't. Not in muttland or anywhere else. Capital is a very powerful tool and no govt. will willingly give away its power over it to the people.
So why the fuck did you ask, nigger? You already know. Your dollar is worth less because assholes raise the price and idiots(or slaves) pay it.
The prices of goods and services go down over time on a gold standard. This is what’s supposed to happen as the world becomes more efficient through productivity gains. Keynesian fraud robs the working poor while enriching asset holders.
Money is not finite; one person gaining a dollar does not deprive another.
You're close, but that's not how it works. First of all, money SHOULD be finite. One person gaining a dollar SHOULD deprive another. Money should remain a constant amount. What changes is how much that dollar is worth. As economy grows per capita, your puchase power SHOULD grow. You should be able to afford a BETTER house, a BETTER car, or a 2nd car for your wife... you should have a BETTER life as economy improves.
Government has robbed you from this improvement. Not only they kept dollar from gaining purchase power...they've printed so much money, that money is worth LESS. You can't even afford your own a house, and people aren't having children because they don't have a room for their children.
You got scammed big time. We all have been scammed. I don't want to digress too much, but it all begins with women suffrage, and female voting tendencies.
Money is finite while wealth is infinite. The cheaper everything becomes the wealthier that society becomes.
The cheaper everything becomes the wealthier that society becomes.
BOOM!
I don't want to digress too much, but it all begins with women suffrage, and female voting tendencies.
Could you elaborate on this? I'd appreciate some historical insights on the policies implemented by women's votes and how they ruined so many good things economies got going.
Women see the entire nation as one large family. It's not their fault, they can't help themselves.
Communism in fact is a very reasonable ideology, for a small tribe or community. To fairly and equally redistribute everything? That's how mothers run a family.
Ever since women suffrage in USA... Gold Standard was allowed to drop, and government grew exponentially. To the point it's quite literally unsustainable and it will 100% bankrupt USA the strongest economy.
This is all visible in how women vs men vote.
Additionally Latinx tend to vote more like women, but that's a story for another thread.
wealth is infinite
Wealth comes from resources, products, labor.
None of those are infinite.
By necessity, one person gains a dollar when another person loses that dollar.
Bullshit. When Google and Apple emerged, billions of dollars of value was created. they didn't take wealth from existing industries in a zero-sum fashion; they created entirely new value propositions, services, and jobs.
What does your chart imply? Also, I'm wondering about the policies that women's suffrage caused, specifically.
biggest lie ever. if i give my dollar to you i no longer have a dollar
Then it's not money.
Promote discussion?
Youre not answering the question. Percentage of the money in circulation does not make your dollars more than a dollar. Thats the fucking problem here. Why does one dollar become less valuable when theres another one dollar, or one million more?
So, if i have one million one dollar bills, how much is one of my dollars worth?
Usury isnt just a fee. A fee would be just 10%, if i borrowed 1000$ with a 10% fee, i should only have to payback 1100$. With usury, theres no set date to payback, its a reoccurring 10% fee indefinitely, which grows and grows. Theres no need for that except pure greed.
One dollar is still one dollar when next to one million one dollars. You being greedy and raising prices because there are more dollars has nothing to do with the dollars existing or not.
ONE DOLLAR
Money and wealth just comes from a person’s capability of extracting a tithe from his friends and family.
Percentage of the money in circulation
It does. It affects what's called "purchasing power."
be anon
go to central bank
central bank prints monke bucks
give it to companies
too much monke bucks in circulation
value of monke bucks goes down (supply/demand)
anon's savings now worth less
price of tendies goes up
can't afford tendies
monke sad
tfw no tendies because central bank printed too much monke bucks
hmh but 10 dollars will always be valued 10 dollars. they never say prices increased because money lost value. its always "increased production costs" "the world situation" various bullshit like that. no one actually believes that the ukraine war is a legit excuse to raise prices 3x or more as nothing was produced there
Resources (land, soil, minerals, trees, water, food, shelter) are finite. And if you keep printing money, our purchasing power keeps going down until it purchases close to nothing.
The ability to make the world more efficient is infinite, therefore wealth is infinite. Money must be finite if it is to successfully store wealth into the future.
This is precovid so it's much worse now
Money is indeed finite. Gold is money. You need supernova collisions to make more. FIAT CURRENCY isn't finite directly, but eventually it will fail because fiat currencies have 100% failure rate.
Checkmate, you absolute retard.
Those dollars add up
Communism in fact is a very reasonable ideology
"let's failry and equally distribute everything, and no one has control over another"
"wait, and who will grow the crops?"
"the slaves of course"
why does my dollar become less valuable when another is printed?
Because the price of goods and services are determined by the people who CANNOT afford them.
CHECKED.
It's always been a semantics game. If you convince people you're not in the wrong chances are they're gonna let it go. War can be cheap too.
that's not the case.
do you think pajeets go "I want this new Switch 2 to be $499"?
How are dollars made?
That's true because this economy is fake, jews can just print more dollars out of thin air.
You can't do that in a real economy.
Give me link to her, FAGGOTS. i lost it and it was funny.
brrrrrrr
wait, and who will grow the crops?"
"the slaves of course"
No it was, "us on our communal farms".
Real communism never happened and isn't possible anyway, just like real capitalism. In reality every polity in the world runs a different"flavor" of the same system. A mixed economy with a sliding scale of socialism to free market, and not the same in each sector or industry. Oligarchical political control of one sort or another and with different window dressings.
Promote discussion?
Go back to plebbit faggot and kys when you get there
us
lmao
When a woman (you) say "us", she means someone else, aka a slave.
nearly 40
no kids
dog pics
Money is not finite; one person gaining a dollar does not deprive another.
This only applies when sex is regulated.
Attractiveness is finite. One person becoming more attractive makes everyone else less attractive because they are being compared to each other. After you have food, water etc security, the primary reason to make more money is to make yourself more attractive than other people, and thus every dollar you gain is a dollar someone else loses since attractiveness is relative. This is why the "crabs in a bucket" mentality appeared precisely when sex was liberalized.
Not a woman. Women don't do outside the home labor of any real value in any system, barring a few outliers. The different flavors of system have varying degrees of denialism and playing pretend around this fact.
Dollars are made when they are borrowed into existence. By either local banks when making loans or by the federal reserve / prime dealers when purchasing government debt
Women (you) are fucking lazy.
What do you do in your retarded "communism", when no one wants to do hard work, but only easy work, if any work at all?
huh?
you will force some people, and that's what always happens. And then you claim that this wasn't real communism.
they didn't take wealth from existing industries in a zero-sum fashion
Attractiveness is zero-sum. If you become more attractive then I become less attractive because I am being compared to you. In a sexually liberal society where the primary purpose of money is to make yourself more attractive, money does start to behave as though it were zero-sum.
they created entirely new value propositions, services, and jobs
And yet quality of life has be in a non-stop decline despite all this "value" and "jobs" that have been created. Again, this is because sexually liberal societies have zero-sum economies due to the relative nature of attractiveness.
I make more money to become more attractive than you, you make more money to cancel out my advantage. We both have "more money", but our conditions haven't improved because that money is being used to compete for sex, and sexual competition is based on comparison, not absolutes. When sex is liberalized, economies become zero sum. That's why "capitalism" started failing after sex was liberalized and why the same pattern can be observed everywhere sex is liberalized.
Your dollar represents faith that the sun will rise tomorrow and anarchy will not reign
The government is cutting your faith in half when it prints another dollar and keeping it for itself
Make any sense?
Is this the bitch that called me a faggot for voting for a woman (kamala Harris)???
When in doubt, move the goal posts from money and value creation into unrelated topics like sex and arbitrary, undefined "quality of life" complaints.
Money is purely imaginary. You're all brainwashed living in a fantasy.
He said it isn't possible you literal autist
The set of money in circulation at a given time will always be a finite set. Money can be expressed in a continuous range of values, not just a limited number of discrete values, and due to this continuous nature, the number of possible values for money is infinite, not finite. But even though a single unit of money, a dollar for example, can take infinitely many values, money is still finite.
In economics, the value of a dollar can be viewed as a numeraire, a reference unit used to measure other prices. This is analogous to the gauge symmetries in physics, where different currencies can be chosen as the numeraire. In this framework, the value of a dollar is treated as a "gauge potential," and exchange rates and interest rates are related to other gauge fields. Arbitrage opportunities are then seen as manifestations of nonzero curvature in these gauge fields.
researchgate.net
That's what all commies do.
"It's not possible ... WITH THESE PEOPLE"
as always communism equals genocide
Billion dollar companies should have tanked the economy since they took so much finite money that was in circulation. How the fuck are we on iphone 18?
I don't think he's a communist
You're most likely arguing with your own side
infinite money means it is worthless, actually if really infinte then even harmful as you will suffocate/be crushed
whoosh
he responded with "us" when I asked the question regarding who will grow the crops".
No sane individual would do that.
If he's quoting communists that's what they would say
Money is not finite
No shit, the Federal Reserve can and does just print money out of thin air. Why do you think inflation has been so bad since 2020?
Resources are finite. The point of money is to gain resources. If everyone has more money at the same time that's called inflation.
the absolute lack of anything resembling human intelligence in this post suggests to me that you are either not white, or a woman
Tell that to jews.
of course, commie
Only if actual production keeps up with the increase of money.
ok nigger
but not if something is created of the equal value of dollars created, right?
if someone creates a things that's worth a million and a million dollars are printed
no one else loses anything
resources
actual production
I see the problem now, y'all stuck in the last century.
Hugh Howey
Steve Scott
Katie Cross
Sean Dollwet
all earned over six figures selling kindle ebooks. Dollwet crossed a million. How is that possible with your finite dollars, finite resources and finite production model?
I know
ttd
tfd
tcd
Smoothbrain retard here. As I understand it:
1.) Printing dollars destroys value.
2.) Creating a desired product or service creates value out of thin air.
Like, if I invent the Organic Holistic Penis Enlarger 9000 and it actually works, my invention will have a market valuation in the billions, and that valuation will appear out of thin air. No one is devalued by the creation of my penis enlargement device. It's a purely fiscally positive event.
Because there isn't demand only for that.
Eventually people want to buy real things with their money. And then you get inflation for real goods.
To an extent people will start buying more services/e-books/software/media/etc if that's all that they can afford, but only to an extent. People need real things to live too.
shes about to hit the wall and still no children
sad
No shit retard, of course money is infinite, you can just say more exists in a computer.
What ISN'T infinite is VALUE. That stays exactly the same. Every one more you say exists, each other is worth less.
Okay but it devalues their dollar you fucking retard
an probably worse in the future given china plans to stop financing the dollar
printing and usury
I can spend money in store x or store y.
If I spend money in story x I don't spend it in store y.
same goes for everyone else.
Noone is paying for all things in every store.
Some people pick x some people pick y if noone picks z, z goes bankrupt.
time in a day is finite, days in a month are finite, month in a year are finite. Finite are the years in man's life. The only teoretically infinite units are debt and immigrants, but there's a breaking point down the road, at some point critical mass can't pay loan no more. At some point people stop breeding, not enough workers not enough workhours not enough growth.